Thinkpad X1 Extreme (Gen 4) Review - A Hidden Gem!

[@JustJoshTech]

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[@pedrofelck]

It's so weird that they nailed almost everything else and got short on things that ThinkPads are known for: keyboard and battery life.

[@TestName286]

Gotta average out somewhere. I'm ok with taking a small hit to those for everything else. Would like to see how well a integrated-graphics only option with a fresh install of windows 11 does.

[@cla1814]

I miss the days when thinkpads where the battery kings with no contestants, now they are mediocre.

[@lanejesseph9963]

I've used ThinkPads for 15 years from T43 up through my new P1 Gen 4 which is the sister product of the X1E. I can that the keyboard is still stellar regardless of this gentleman's opinion. Typing is fast, crisp and accurate. They keys are the exact same shape as previous generations as is the spacing. There's nothing "bad" about this keyboard at all.

[@vivenreddy]

Are you sure that the keyboard on the new P1 Gen 4 is the same as the X1E?

[@dijikstra8]

How is the trackpoint? The one on my T470s is really dissapointing compared to my old first gen X1 Carbon and previous Thinkpads. It's just not as responsive, it feels sluggish and is just annoying.

[@dev.lockridge]

@@vivenreddy they’re usually identical - the only issues are in the internal hardware that tailors the P1 for more “workstation” workloads for professionals

[@PKperformanceEU]

Do you recommend a P1 gen5 qhd over a MacBook pro 16 M1max for programming and ethical hacking?

[@BlendingWithHenry]

@@PKperformanceEU *Do you recommend a P1 gen5 qhd over a MacBook pro 16 M1max for programming and ethical hacking?* I would love to know what your definition of "ethical hacking" is? lol

[@petrzurek5713]

This was probably the best short yet spot-on review of a laptop. You’ve set the benchmark.

[@JustJoshTech]

Thanks Petr

[@corey7219]

Hi Josh. I'm hard of hearing and I would love to have at least automatic closed captions in your videos moving forward. I had trouble hearing some things you said.

[@saturnotaku]

A keyboard that's not enjoyable to use is one of the most damning things you can say against a ThinkPad laptop.

[@eurodudenj]

I had the X1 Extreme Gen 1 (sold it before trying several other 15.6" laptops) and now own the X1 Extreme Gen 4 and the keyboard is very good. The Gen 1 key actuation force was too high; however the Gen 4 keys feel just right in terms of actuation force. While key travel may be a little lower in the Gen 4, it is still more than the majority of laptop keyboards. I suggest trying the Gen 4 for yourself; everyone's preferences vary in terms of what they are looking for in a laptop keyboard. I agree that battery life is not as much as I was hoping for given the 90 Whr battery and non-4K screen, but its battery life seems better than my lower powered Gen 1 which had an 80 Whr battery; and it is an 8 core i7 with an RTX3050Ti GPU.

[@jlim003]

I got a cheapo E15 THinkpad for my mum, and it feels better than my personal 2021 XPS. So, I think this guy just has his own preference. No way in hell does an Asus keyboard beat a THinkpad.

[@The_Dapper_Millennial]

@@eurodudenj How does the X1 gen 4 extreme keyboard compare to the X1 yoga? I tried the keyboard on an X1 L13 Yoga at Best Buy today and it was probably the best feeling laptop keyboard I've tried, so much so, that I'm considering getting the X1 extreme gen 4 for my programming/do-everything laptop, but the keyboard MUST be stellar, and I mean Stellar (or at least as good as the X1 L13 Yoga If I am paying that kind of money). Are they the same keyboard?

[@qishengpan9774]

Excellent review! Thanks so much. Really appreciate your efforts on the test of Ubuntu ;)

[@hiimdan662]

I notice most intel machines have short battery life. Even when MSI and gigabyte laptops are packed with huge 99.9wh batteries they still struggle with long runtimes

[@JustJoshTech]

Actually quite a few I've tested recently have good battery life. Check out my review of the 14inch X1 Carbon Gen 9. It has great battery life

[@hiimdan662]

@@JustJoshTech yes I've seen that review. I was referring to the 11th gen 8 core CPU in this laptop. If I'm not wrong the 1165G7 in the carbon gen 9 is a 25w 4c/8t CPU with lower clock speeds, resulting in much lower power draw and less heat.

[@fahadfreid1996]

An AMD option would have much better battery life, I guarantee it. My Slim 7 Pro has a higher res screen and gets much better battery life.

[@anuragmishra286]

Even my Yoga Slim 7 with 4800u gets around 10-11 hrs with around 50% screen brightness

[@LorenzoC36]

I have the X1 extreme gen 1 model, and the keyboard is something that once I tried it, it's hard to go back, even to mechanical. Its a nice thick feeling membrane, that's very quiet while not feeling thin like butterfly switches. I must say this that the thermals leaves a lot to be desired.

[@latif1231]

I started following your channel because your sincere about inform you give it to the public after your hard working test. Thank you very much, you are the best

[@robinrai4973]

A user shouldn't have to do this, but for battery life check the power states in Throttlestop, both your core states and package states should be C7+ under idle. Package power consumption should be

[@skraggybones]

You are the only person I have ever seen dislike a thinkpad keyboard. They are the benchmark against which all other are measured.

[@zackhere968]

Glad youre back josh

[@JustJoshTech]

Thanks Zach. I was never gone, just had to slow down to tackle life!!

[@GardenOnTopIndia]

Looks like I'm gonna get the M16. I was waiting for this review.

[@puskarpathak8913]

thanks for the review, waiting for ThinkPad P1 Gen 4 review!!!

[@momcilomrkaic2214]

People can see how much effort you put into making these videos continue the great work!

[@SebisRandomTech]

Tempted by the 16:10 display and better performance, put off by the inferior keyboard.

[@mariuspuchalla663]

Hi, thanks for the review. What appears to be strange is that starting at minute 4:41 you start citing the 3050ti for benchmark results in the machine and not the 3060 as before. Since one comes with the vapor chamber cooling and the other does not, can you clarify this point a bit further? Plus, can you please expand on how many watts the gpu and cpu are allowed to use? in the lenovo spec sheet it says that the gpus should max out around 80 and not 95 watts. Cheers!

[@JustJoshTech]

I have the 3060 model

[@mariuspuchalla663]

@@JustJoshTech Soo, the slides are incorrect and the 3060 is allowed to draw 95 watts?! Am I understanding this correctly?

[@kakaboom55]

dodgyy

[@JustJoshTech]

That's a mistake in the graph. It's a 3060

[@p.z.6712]

16:10 16 inch, 2k display, rtx 3060 Nvidia GPU, 100 watt usbc power delivery is the new standard set for productivity laptops from 2021. GPU is not only for gaming but also for computing nowadays.

[@gigel99324]

actually the "standard" is renting machines by the second.

[@jamesj4347]

So remember on discord when I asked about doing a review of the "MSI creator z16"? It's somewhere in with the X1 extreme and the dell xps 17. Really would love to get your opinion on it...

[@DavidKanigan]

Awesome review Josh.

[@tokyojerry]

Thanks much for this well-done presentation. One that you didn't mention and would like to bring to your attention. if you want more storage, the 3050Ti model is the only model that comes with dual NVMe SSD slots. The 3060 and 3080 option models are only single slotted SSD, so I understand. Frankly, since I seldom play games, my heaviest use scenario will be 4K video edits and renders in Davinci Resolve. For that purpose I think the 3050Ti is plenty enough.

[@Davien2008]

Amazing video like always Josh, you are almost to 150K subs and I look forward to it!

[@JustJoshTech]

Me too! Thanks for your support

[@Repienk]

I have this laptop and the screen keeps going distorted black and white. Idk how to fix it

[@dbrakowski]

Wow...sorry to hear about the keyboard. That was always the best thing about IBM/Lenovo laptops.

[@acos21]

Awesome review as always!

[@DConstructing]

Hello Josh! Great review as always! Did you perhaps plan on doing a "vs" between Dell XPS 17 and the X1 Extreme? (Also I would lobe to see your review of the Dell XPS 17 9710)

[@changliu7346]

The biggest problem I see is the huge weight difference, this is like way lighter than the Xps 17

[@luonghoang2404]

awesome review Josh, thank you very much

[@wongziyang40]

Thank you for doing a review on Thinkpad Extreme Laptop :) Appreciate it greatly! The older versions of the Extremes also have similar battery issues which I find strange too given their large battery capacities...

[@Leo-rm1wo]

Also curious on how much the vapour chamber helps cool the dGPU -- wonder how much of a performance boost the 3060 will get compared to the 3050ti and the thermals

[@prakashpaul7348]

Hi, josh great video. You covered all the required points for purchase. Plz also tell us about the repairability of the respective laptop like display, battery, motherboard etc. From the next video. You can also include ifixit score

[@babushkatheyeeter2660]

What do u think about lenovo legion 5 pro ryzen 7 5800h rtx3070

[@gordanovcaric8836]

Hey Josh, thanks for Linux review! You are the first reviewer I saw checking out Linux for this laptop!

[@RojsaCom]

Great review as always! :)

[@daysgone3950]

Quick & great review for this new model! However, many corps I know still purchase under power X/T series of Gen 10, which hurts us developers a lot.

[@soniyakhanal9028]

Had been waiting for this. Thank you

[@DonnieX6]

In Germany the prices start at 3291€ (incl. VAT) for the cheapest configuration, that are about $3800 US ... 🙄

[@gigel99324]

Plenty of sales and coupons. They start at about 2400.

[@snipercat1158]

Can you compare it to the Dell XPS ?

[@xa3point10]

The keyboard is amazing... I have one of these and it's the reason I bought it. He might just not be a fan of the Lenovo track point and keyboard

[@mini9503]

Just shows that he's impartial, not another RAVING Brand-Fanboys like yourself masquerading as a professional tech reviewer. If you want a fake positive review there are literally _dozens_ of so-called "reviewers" on YT and Reddit who do those comedy acts telling you what YOU so desperately want to hear and giving you that sweet, false validation for their ego-filling likes and subs. The door is that way my guy, 👉👉 these honest channels aren't the place for that sort of BS.

[@DoubleOhSilver]

Same. I have a X1Y1, T490s, and this. The T490s has the best keyboard, then the other two are tied. Sure it's a shorter bottom out, but it still feels solid and tactile. Don't know how this reviewer finds it so much worse.

[@macamanen6043]

@just josh, any solution for the sort battery?? :(

[@latif1231]

I dont think he find solution, even Lenovo cant do anything about it....hhhhh

[@vibhupande]

Please review Gen 4 of Thinkpad E series (E14, E15). I can see them listed on the Lenovo website, but there's not much fanfare about its launch, or any reviews yet.

[@himanshushukla6451]

Hey another new Josh video. 🍻

[@confidentlocal8600]

When you tested Ubuntu, did you use a scaling setting for the desktop? I would think 2560x1600 at 100% scaling would be way too small to read. I have a Retina Macbook Pro (2880x1800) and can't imagine using it at native resolution. The scaling situation is one reason I've considered sticking with 1080p for my next laptop, which I intend to be a ThinkPad.

[@othmanelhoufi2579]

Thanks for your contribution. Please do a video of XPS 15 but with Linux as primary OS 🙏🏻, I'm a developer and I can't find any good video about laptops benchmarks and compatibility with Linux.

[@JustJoshTech]

I'm going to do a big Linux video for Ubuntu 21.10 but likely on the XPS 13 not 15

[@othmanelhoufi2579]

@@JustJoshTech as long as you don't buy it with Linux pre-installed and you try to install Linux yourself taking in consideration the CPU and GPU drivers that should be okay. But anyway I can't wait to watch that video, thanks for your support, much love 🥰

[@confidentlocal8600]

Agreed. I'm interested in how the scaling works on the high-res screens on laptops like the XPS and whether it's worthwhile to spend extra for one when using Linux. I'm inclined to go 1080p to avoid scaling headaches.

[@kingskid935]

Excellent review! I ordered mine, but there is a 4-month wait.

[@ZviSRosen]

I don't get the hype over the X1 series. They're not gaming machines, but the keyboard is a real demerit for productivity, and I don't think I'd care that much about the weight difference versus the T series. I know it's a little thinner and lighter, but I got a T14 AMD and have zero regrets as a mobile productivity machine that I can sometimes run Civ6 on when in the mood. The keyboard was worth it, but 16:10 or 3:2 would be really nice on a productivity-focused laptop like the T series. Who knows if the T series will get that of course...

[@ZviSRosen]

​@@mini9503​It's entirely possible I'm not sufficiently discerning. I really like the kb on the T14. I agree the screen is so-so (and I got the 500 nit "privacy" one), and 16:9 makes no sense on a business/productivity laptop. But I feel like the focus on thin/light is misplaced on a Thinkpad, where the purpose is practicality. And it's not like the T14 is that much thicker/heavier anyway.

[@RoughRunnerAce98]

Any plans to performance test the Framework laptop? I haven't seen anyone look at the performance of it only the design and stuff, I want to know how well it performs.

[@JustJoshTech]

I have ordered one and yes!

[@DmitrySV]

@@JustJoshTech cool bro

[@RoughRunnerAce98]

@@JustJoshTech Your just a living legend aren't you

[@infinatious]

Lenovo seems to put worse keyboards on the X1 series, the T series laptops still have great Lenovo keyboards with better travel

[@Burkery373]

What’s the red dot on the keyboard 8:11

[@JustJoshTech]

Its use as an alternative to the touchpad to move the mouse

[@Burkery373]

Thx

[@Jknasse2]

looking at this laptop but the gen5 - besides HP and Mac products I am considering Dell - any other contenders in this price point 3K ish

[@spiceyfrenchtoast9421]

Did you run Thinkpad system update on the system? That will display any bios or firmware updates issued.

[@davidarchangels6500]

So Josh, which is ur fav thinkpad for 2022?

[@mateusraitz1803]

Great video. Are you planning on getting the new XPS 15 and 17? I would love to see a review and comparison between them. I am having a hard time deciding which one to buy

[@Thai.H]

Do you need a 3060 or a 17 in display? If not get the 15

[@Thai.H]

There's a bunch of comparison out of already

[@physiotherapy101]

Hello Josh....has there been an update to the battery life?

[@tanjl6683]

love ur vids! btw is the legion 5 pro review coming soon?

[@JustJoshTech]

I'll try

[@sentryion3106]

I’m sure In pc manufacturers eye the speakers just need to be good/acceptable and not exceptional since they expect these machines to be on the go with headphones/earphones. Besides a bigger speaker means less space for other stuff Iike cooling, battery, or upgradability which are way more important imo

[@mini9503]

*"expect these machines to be on the go with headphones/earphones"* What a _lazy_ excuse for incompetence. The only reason these don't have good speakers is because Lenovo does not have the skills to engineer one. For reference, it took Apple _years_ spending untold sums of money acquiring engineering talent from smaller audio companies to get to where they are with internal speakers today. Huawei and Samsung basically did the same thing which is why their speakers are on a usable level.

[@sentryion3106]

​@@mini9503 There is a limited fund of what to do. Spending more on one would surely reduce the atttention for the other. You can always increase the budget in total but that would increase the price of the laptop which might go beyond what their marketing teams are waiting for. As I said, all manufacter can find a way to implement a great speakers but they dont deem it as high of a piority when things like battery cooling upgradability etc still needs improving.

[@sentryion3106]

@@mini9503 Touchpad and keyboard are subjective though I cant see how they are better than this. The m16 is about 100g heavier which looks small but when it comes to cramping stuff it is something significant. The g15 shouldnt even be in this conversation since it doesnt even have a webcam which is a dealbreaker rn. Also this is a business laptop, it has some baked in functions ( v pro and other stuff like that) that a gaming laptop doesnt have. Looking at del and hp insipron or latitude and elite books, they are about as expensive (or even more in some cases) for the same specs. The dell speakers are good while the hp is ok level. Regarding your comment on macs, you only have that one option to get the upgraded speakers for added cost. Its not like you can say "oh i dont need a fantastic speaker that I will rarely use" and take the cheaper option. Macs are expensive (pre m1) ; a lot of people dont need these features which is why (among other bigger reasons like compatibility ) window is used more. As stated in my first point: A laptop is meant to be on the go where you are unlikely to be able to play things out loud. As such the user often have headphones for these situations. As a result, an acceptable / mediocore speaker system is adequate for the job and should not become a dealbreaker / deal maker.

[@smoofles]

@@sentryion3106 The spending argument might be valid if we were talking about dirt cheap laptops and small manufacturers. Lenovo just wants to penny-pinch their customers as much as possible. The ThinkPad line has so much potential, and yet year after year, model number after model number, they keep screwing stuff up on all types of details. @Quanti Lenovo has competent engineers, no worries, they just don’t give a shit. 90% of the ThinkPad lineup exists purely to be milked as a product. It’s not like singular customers like us matter to them and their enterprise sales departments.

[@sentryion3106]

@@smoofles maybe it’s correct to fault Lenovo For this mishap but my comment extends to all laptop. I feel like too many reviewers are putting a little too much emphasis on the speaker which are often never touched or rarely used. The think pad line is in an odd spot. While as a whole it’s a pretty good package but there are always detail that drag it back. But yea if the companies, their true customers, don’t complain, our voice means nothing

[@alexeiz]

The Crucial RAM module (CT2K16G4SFRA32A) you linked to on Amazon is likely single rank. There is another module there that's explicitly described as dual rank (CT2K16G4SFD832A). Why not use that one?

[@markusstaden]

Does anyone know, if you can charge it with the new 240W USB C standard?

[@theMadMan74]

I appreciate the review you made and to point out the pros and cons of the laptop. Do you think it's possible in the future that when you test for battery life to standardize the brightness of the display? Some sites will use 150 or 200nits so that it's a fairer comparison across different laptop brands with different display manufacturers and specs.

[@JustJoshTech]

That's a good idea. A very good one. I am trying to get some more help. I may need to do this once I have more help

[@tonyb408]

How would you compare this to the hp envy 16?

[@JuanCAraujoS]

I find odd that you didn't compare this Lenovo to it's Dell true counterpart, the XPS 17 9710. Which one is a better buy?

[@fidodio999]

what do you think about huawei matebook laptops ?

[@nishomzawan5196]

@Josh do you plan to do a Asus M16 review? I am planning to buy it and would love to see your opinion

[@JustJoshTech]

I do but I am a bit back logged

[@hipie4754]

I am considering the lenovo yoga slim 7 pro 14" gen 5 with AMD Ryzen 9, and MX450 graphics card. Any thoughts on this?

[@Leo-rm1wo]

disappointing that there's still no undervolting for these H series chips... I wonder how much performance and battery life could be improved if that were the case

[@samuelsarfati9314]

Why i see the price so high, like 3000€ in France

[@anarsosoroo2891]

Cool review!

[@michabajdek5997]

whatr about fingerprint on Ubuntu?

[@campbellgray120]

Great review. I wanted this so badly but I ended up going with the legion slim 7 gen 6 amd, as I got a little better deal on it. I do feel a little better about my purchase since the true strike keyboard is actually pretty great. That’s a bummer about the thinkpad keyboard. Both laptops seem fairly Similar. Just obviously one is way more marketed towards gamers( the legion does still retain a pretty minimalist design language which is nice). The Ryzen processor in the legion slim 7 in such a small package is pretty perfect as far as thermals go . Plus the 3060 will consistently run above 100 watts on performance mode (mine spikes to 120 occasionally with dynamic boost, but tends to drop back down to and lock into 110 watts, and the gpu has never gotten above 78 degrees even on its hotspot (gpu-z)). I know they’re very similar but it would be interesting to see a comparison between the two. I think it might also be interesting to see the difference between intel and amd in a similar sized chassis and similar level specs. Just a thought if you ever have the opportunity. But again love your channel and reviews. No nonsense and always useful information. Lenovo really is putting out some impressive stuff

[@remigoldbach9608]

Would be interesting to compare the overall performance to the XPS 17...

[@AlfateS]

I really hate laptops with lots of plastic clips round tricky areas because they snap off so easily even when I remove them with care. This laptop is a blessing for self maintenance

[@americanexpress888]

any review on p1 gen 4?

[@harrikangur]

Do you have the Framework laptop in review/use yet?

[@JustJoshTech]

I don't. They didn't send a review unit so I bought one. I believe it will be here second half of October

[@dyong888]

Appreciation shown. thanks.

[@papagen00]

I just bought a used one for $1100, good 6+ hour battery life for daily office work. Keyboard is fine but could be more soft and 'springy' like HP (it's not true Alienware has better keyboard, it doesn't and I am a keyboard snob.) Trackpad is fine but I usually use the red nipple or a mouse anyway. The twin speakers sound fantastic for classical music (90% of my music listening).

[@inshafahmed8656]

You know me I value your time👌

[@matiheilenkotter7169]

josh, please review the hp envy 2021, is $1599 and i want to know your opinion

[@richardtayer26]

Did review Fujitsu uh-x ? lightest laptop w/ new intel processor w/ iris XE graphics \

[@claudiof.barbano5530]

So final answer, this or the XPS 15 9510? (Or wait the XPS 9520)?

[@dami7781]

Josh pls could provide your honest thoughts as always with regards to LG gram 16 and 17. Thanks

[@CPATEL157]

Are you kidding about the keyboard? PCMag just reviewed this and stated “Memo to Other Manufacturers: Copy This Keyboard”. It’s rather subjective by reviewer to call something “not enjoyable” without even stating facts like key travel verses the other two laptops cited as having better keyboards.

[@confidentlocal8600]

The key travel is 1.5mm in this model and 1.8mm on the T15G Gen 2 / P15.

[@JimKanaris]

Always grateful for your reviews! I really wanted to love this laptop since my corporation is giving me options from Lenovo. They won't fund a "gaming" laptop like the Legion Slim 7i, which is almost perfect in every way for me since it seems to stack up well as a Windows-based device compared to my own personally owned 16" M1 Pro. I can't stand the bezels here with a mediocre display and the keyboard and trackpad issues you outline. Battery life too is another downer. Ugh, it really bugs me that Apple provides the best rounded experience. I want a comparable Windows machine but corporations are not willing to put down that kind of coin for a laptop that simply gets the job done.

[@erickisra0138]

Okay, but when are you going to review the Legion 7. I need it. Good video though

[@drishalballaney]

why not also take a look at thinkpad T series? (the T14)

[@nihalsiddiqi123]

What's ur opinion on ROG Flow X13

[@tommydude969]

If he's comparing this keyboard to the x1c9 then I would completely disagree. The smaller keyboard travel isn't a hinderance to me, my wrists don't get any fatigue but I can't particularly vouch for this model. I believe this may be fairly subjective compared to keyboards in the past.

[@TestName286]

the fact that their ram selection icons are all 2-stick icons bothers me so much

[@Burkery373]

What would be a good sub $1000 laptop for an author?

[@samuelodan2376]

Woah! That battery life tho. Surprisingly, everyone else says it’s quite good with about twice the numbers you’re getting. Has there been an update yet?

[@latif1231]

Wait for x1 gen 5, lenovo cant give you %100 good, all the time you wait for the next......they knows have this battery life but........

[@name8031]

Seems like a slightly different Dell Inspiron 16 plus that's also slightly more expensive. Consider reviewing that laptop?

[@vardanrathi7777]

How about a ThinkPad E14 Gen 3 review? Probably the new budget king !?

[@Erintii]

It seems to be a great machine. I don't care much for battery life but for large screen and comfortable keyboard. I have private Lenovo Legion 17 inches and MBP 16 and for writing and office work will always choose Lenovo, in my opinion Lenovo's keyboards are great.

[@p.z.6712]

Hey... saying this make me envied as I cannot afford buying these two laptops that I've been dreaming for a while...

[@Erintii]

@@p.z.6712 My MBP 16 is not mine but it's from company, I did not purchase it on my own

[@rahulshibu4332]

Which cpu is better Intel or ryzen (don't need gaming)

[@bart9522]

Minimal fan noise? Why do I see everyone complaining about the horrendous fan noise and heat?

[@DiwaGalvez]

Top-notch review as always. I've begun to veer away from Intel recently. For some reason, my HP Elitebook 835 using the Ryzen 7 5800U lasts better than my wife's Thinkpad E14 with the Intel processor.

[@Adfonte]

Great review. Still waiting for Dell xps 9510 15" review, need your feedback on it before I order it.

[@Thai.H]

It's the same as last year with newer specs what else do you need to know lol

[@goingviral8917]

COME TO THE U.K! ❤👍🏼

[@annihilatorg]

Thanks for the review. I've been thinking about getting a replacement for my LG Gram 17 that would have more horsepower. I can't really live without the extra pixels of a QHD screen and 4k panels force display scaling which, somehow, still trips up some software. This looks like a good option.

[@confidentlocal8600]

You must have excellent eyesight if you can use 2560x1600 unscaled. I considered this model with the WQHD+ screen, but I would want to run Linux, where desktop environments perform poorly with fractional scaling. At least 4k lets you use integer scaling which is more power-efficient.

[@RS-handle]

Should i wait for 12 gen CPU's before buying a laptop?

[@andy_NQ]

Man, a really good review! So pity, a Thinkpad with less enjoyable keyboard, average at best ? that's really bad for a Thinkpad laptop. I was planning to buy this gen 4 to replace my gen 1, i guess i will have to wait for 1 or more years tho :v