🍎This AMMO is the Same, but VERY Different!🍏

[@americanpatriot477]

I hunt with a Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter in 44 mag. I have tested about every bullet for the 44 and I always go back to the XTP’s. They always work no matter the bullet weight.

[@ToolsandTargets]

These were definitely impressive.😎👍

[@spanky44mag]

A fine weapon. I have a few 44 mag Rugers. They are hard to beat

[@bradlichtenberg4107]

Has anyone shot an XTP from a rifle into gel? Or recovered one from game out of a rifle?

[@kodywoodward]

I'm glad to see that about the Hornady, I just bought some for me Desert Eagle yesterday and wasn't sure on how good it is going to be. Awesome test! Thank you for another awesome video!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely some good stuff.😎👍

[@SouthernShodan]

It's ammo like that PMC that allows people to claim the 10mm loaded with Buffalo Bore/Underwood is "almost as powerful as a 44 mag". Pretty sad.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Mhmm

[@deletdis6173]

In this case, damn near 100ft/lbs more energy out of 10mm Auto 😂

[@johnkennedy4015]

That's good information on the PMC ammo as I was previously wondering how that brand perform. After watching your test I now know. 😉I love .44 Magnum's! Thanks for showcasing the caliber in todays chrono/gel test. At present I'm loaded with Hornady Custom XTP 240 grain JHP ammo in my S&W Model 29 and I really like it. Take care and stay safe my friend!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I have a few boxes of the 240 also.😎👍

[@yuvgotubekidding]

Yes, definitely do them both through your Henry. Give PMC another shot. The road trip comment was good 😄👍👊🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@randlerichardson5826]

They call the Hornady XTP’s Extreme Terminal Performance for a reason. In my smoke pole they’re Extreme Terminal Performers now they will put a deer in the dirt fast.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🦌💥

[@louisgiokas2206]

The company usually tells you what the test barrel length is. On the Hornady site they explicitly state a 7.5" barrel. The PMC site doesn't specify that I could find, but 7.5" is the usual standard. You could have looked it up.

[@SpOoNmAn365]

Glad you posted this info. Used to be the test barrels were 5.5". Regardless, the 240 xtp .454 zoom out if my 8.3" Raging Hunter. Buying a Rossi 20". Can't wait to see what the energy down range is with an extra 12" of velocity

[@ToolsandTargets]

👍

[@louisgiokas2206]

@@SpOoNmAn365 That should be great. I have a .44 Mag revolver, which I have taken many deer with. I also have a Winchester 1894 Trapper with a 16" barrel. Unfortunately, I can't use it for deer hunting in my state. It is a blast to shoot, though. With 9 in the tube, I think it would be a good home defense weapon as well.

[@larryraffburn-eg8wg]

PMC made the Eldorado Starfire. They were the best defense bullet ever. The hydraulic effect was devastating. A guy I know had his.45 ACP stolen, the guy who stole it killed himself with it. They couldn’t identify him. Even his dental records were almost useless. Look them up.

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

Awesome video. I’ve had the same “Performance” with PMC HP ammo in 9mm and 40S&W. It penetrated for days with little to no expansion.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@leonhart2452]

On velocity check a few loading manuals and see what velocities they are getting with similar weight bullets. In the Hornady #7 they use a Ruger Redhawk with 7.5 inch barrel and get 1600 fps with the 200 gr XTP. With the180 gr they get the same 1600 fps. The rifle they use is a Ruger carbine with an 18 inch barrel. The 180 gr gets 2200 fps, the 200gr gets 2100 fps. Adding the extra 2 inches on a Marlin might gain another 100 fps. Way back when I was a kid Super Vel loaded a 180 gr hp to a high velocity that didn't expand much, they wanted to get max penetration, perhaps the PMA bullet is built the same to get the same performance.

[@ToolsandTargets]

👍

[@noahmercy-mann4323]

Nice vid, as per usual, partner! I have 44 Mag handloads with both 200 grain and 300 grain XTPs for a Super Redhawk that put five rounds into two inches at 100 yards. The 200 grain load is for deer and pronghorn, the 300s are for everything bigger, and hammered piney wood rooters almost as well as LBT-style cast bullets.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice.😎👊

[@noahmercy-mann4323]

@Peter Angles Can't help but notice you joined YT fairly recently and have zero content, so I can only assume you are a troll with no experience beyond Nerf and airsoft. Prove me wrong by actually making an intelligent, reasoned, and experience-based argument about WHY a bull-barreled production revolver (with a 2-7X scope, and fired from a good rest) is manifestly incapable of shooting two-inch groups at 100 yards. Please bear in mind the IHMSA shooters who hit targets at 200 meters with open sight revolvers resting across their legs, and a certain well-known competition shooter who has hit 1,000 yard targets on more than one occasion with handguns sporting red dot optics.

[@noahmercy-mann4323]

​@Peter Angles Heres an idea...instead of throwing some terminology out that you think makes you SEEM knowledgable, tell me HOW those things keep a quality handgun firing quality ammunition from producing two inch groups at 100 yards. Since the three custom shops you listed don't manufacture revolvers, how are they pertinent? What part of the "production engineering" precludes two-inch 100 yard groups? To what "ballistic effect" are you referring and how does it limit groups to greater than approximately 2 MOA? Where is it written that pistols are inaccurate? What aspect of the "loadings" would keep it from being accurate when benchrest handloads from rifles are capable of groups less than 1/10 the size of my revolver's? Please feel free to use the Greenhill formula to show me how the twist rate is inadequate to stabilize 200 or 300 grain bullets. Looking forward to being educated by you, since you are apparently such a brilliant firearms expert...

[@noahmercy-mann4323]

@Peter Angles So in short, you are not competent or capable enough to explain how any of those big words you randomly tossed out pertain to accuracy, or shown how they absolutely, positively PREVENT a revolver from shooting two inch groups at 100 yards as you claim. You believe that because YOU are incapable of doing it, that means everyone else is as well, implying you believe yourself to be at least as good as the best shooters in the world. And you end on the statement that you have a relative who is an Olympic coach and you positively know what he would do when presented with my targets. Cool. Well, I guess you sure showed me... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@noahmercy-mann4323]

@Peter Angles Ah, deflection and ad-hominems. The final resort of the ignorant and embarrassed. If I am a "fool" as you claimed twice, then what does that make you, who has refused to answer even ONE of my questions? Those who equate "educated" with "intelligent" are often neither. What laws of physics precludes spin-stabilized lead and gilding metal projectiles launched by a handgun from landing within a set distance from one another when rifles can put them touching at the same distance? And face it, it is not that you don't NEED to explain it to me, it is that you are not capable, since there is no scientific, mechanical, or ballistic reason it can't be done. But I'll humor you; just list a couple of those books you refer to that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that I haven't done what I claimed. I probably have them in my extensive firearms and handloading library (nearly 700 books and over 800 magazines). If not, I have access to the firearm research library at the Buffalo Bill Center of the West. But I bet at least one of them is next to the August, 1994 "Guns & Ammo" in which Ross Seyfried shot a 100 yard group with a revolver that was under ONE inch. Have a great day, pumpkin...just know that you're special, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. 😘

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

Hornady loads nice ammo. Not huge expansion but accurate and works well. The PMC had a decent wound track and penetrates nicely. Thanks for the video Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@bkb5668]

I have some pmc 180gr that I bought a few years back and then I bought some recently and the projectiles are the same, the cases are the same, the powder charges are not the same. The older batches I bought were flame throwing bullet destroying, crazy loud animals, the newer stuff, not so much. They changed the powder charge at some point. 180gr. underwood .44 mag. Is badass.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Interesting.

[@rwdchannel2901]

That would probably stop a bear or a moose charging at you.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Mhmm

[@johnnymccann5607]

sir, you just moved a old man's heart. I've reloaded so many different calibers in the past 43 years and 44 special and 44 mag my all time favorites plus my 45 super reloads xtp all the way.shooting many deer at 44 mag pistol velocitys .is total devistation on deer vitals. I mainly do water testing in telling you the truth I get the same awesome expansion and penetration on retrieved bullets as my water testing and your gel testing. during our NC muzzle loader season if I use my inline muzzle loaders I use only Hornady 44 xtp 180 gr hp with sabot's. and the really thick mess I'm going with 240 xtp.i get great expension on all calibers except 38 special.the 380 Hornady critical defense I get good expansion but load them first in barrel and outher ammo in the magazine as the xtp catches the feed ramps of my 380 a. and the Taurus tracker 44 mag is a more compact 5 shot that I also own and love it. papa wishing you well.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Glad I could provide something that interests ya!

[@Cajundaddydave]

As you have probably noticed while shooting lever guns, the PMC is a slower burn ammo that really needs a longer barrel to get the full rated velocity. This characteristic results in a 50-60% increase in velocity with an 18" rifle barrel and the slow burn softens a bit of the recoil so they are easier to put on target and get good groups. For max velocity with a 4" barrel, Buffalo Bore and Hornady tend to deliver the goods.

[@mcburcke]

One little-known thing about the PMC load...apparently they had a run of ammo boxes for it that listed an erroneous fps rating. Later runs of that loading were corrected with a fps rating around 1350fps. on the boxes. Out in the retail world, both boxes got randomly mixed together all over the place. The PMC lead formulation is always hard as a rock, for some reason.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I believe that. I think the same thing might have happened with their 9mm SFX rounds recently.

[@rex116]

Hi from france Awesome video thank very much 👍 I have a Winchester 1892 in .44 mag and I love hornady ammo

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate you watching, my friend!

[@rex116]

@@ToolsandTargets Is it worth it,really !

[@LuckyDog350X]

Them Hornady rounds did fantastic, now the PMC on the other hand they should just give up on making hollow points and stick to cheap FMJ target ammo. The only PMC I buy anymore is 5.56 XTAC for the range. Have a good one brother see you on the next one.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Poor PMC.😆😆😆

[@waynemayle865]

I use them both for deer hunting but 240gr. Both do great as a hunting round

[@ToolsandTargets]

I have some 240 too. I might do a rifle test with those and another type.

[@salextodd2]

Hey Tools, You know I’ve been patiently waiting for this jelly test, and that was exactly what I needed to know (since I bought a bulk box of that PMC Bronze .44 MAG) - won’t bet my life on them. And that over penetration out of the pistol makes me leery about shooting it at anything - unless I know exactly what’s behind the target. I immediately wondered if both PMC and Hornady based their “on box speeds” from a rifle. I’m truly eagerly awaiting your follow-up test from a Henry rifle. Thanks again for another eye-opening jelly test, Tools!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya, brother!

[@theone031]

Another guy on KZbin tested the 44PMC out of a rifle and it preformed pretty good in some gel.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice. I might have to try it out of my Henry.

[@c.m.b.4868]

Hornady did about as you would expect from them, but the PMC is another example of why it should remain as target ammo.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed.

[@Blueknight1960]

So you rather get shot with the pmc over the hornady? Or do you think both will kill you?

[@steelpunisher6944]

Nice performance from that XTP! I really like them in the big bore calibers. I’ve been dying to try my Underwood 350gr XTP’s for the 500 in gel but haven’t had time. That 44 would make a great hunting round. Awesome stuff as always my friend 🇺🇸👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@ogbobbye]

always fun to see the gel test! PMC needs to get their hollow point bullets figured out. Bronze being a harder Medal than copper it is a no brainer as to why they don't expand. maybe they need to add relief cuts or change to semi jacketed bronze. of course, they could start advertising them as non-expanding hollow points lol.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@lazygamer9725]

Nice work tools. I use hornady xtp in bout everything I carry from 380 9mm 40 45 38/357... it functions in everything no hiccups what so ever

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Good stuff.

[@nickfletton3976]

Good to see the subscriber numbers rising, you certainly deserve it for your hard work and quality video's

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate that.😎👊

[@Nutty.357]

Def the Hornady was supreme in this test in that gun! I don't think the PMC was terrible and would probably be great through a barrier or a good hunting round in a lever rifle for sure! I am sure the Hornady was quite a bit more money too! lol! But a clear winner in this round of testing! I would be happy shooting either because I never even shot a 44 magnum! lol! I got my eye on a Rossi 357 Carbine with a big loop

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🤠💥

[@chretired]

Very nice test Tools. Had my hopes up that the PMC "might" finally perform correctly. But alas our hopes were dashed by the same old usual POOR performance. If that's all you've got, same some money and just get FMJ rounds. Now the Hornady is definitely the ammo to go for as it has the best of all worlds, expansion, tissue disruption and penetration. Thanks again for all you do, your time and effort are greatly appreciated. Be safe and ever vigilant.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. The Hornady loads did fantastic.😎👍

[@Wildwestwrangler]

The PMC bronze are as cheap as most fmj, so it's a wash. I can order the 25rd box of PMC bronze 44 mag for 24.99 from academy

[@kevindutton3676]

You always have the tests I want to see. Really appreciate your channel

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir!😎👊

[@robertseafield5810]

Thanks for testing the 200 gr XTP load! I have a S&W M69 with a 2.75 inch barrel. I was thinking the 200 gr XTP load would be ideal for it. You just proved it. Hornady says that bullet is good for 1650 fps.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice. It's a good one.

[@danlindgren4290]

Thanks Tools! I picked up some of the PMC Bronze last night because it was $26 for 25 rounds. It’s sad that that’s cheap for .44 mag, but it is nowadays. I was hoping you tested it, and of course you did, from a revolver and a rifle. I’m guesstimating that the advertised speed is from an 8” barrel. My tool is a ported 5 1/8” Raging Hunter, so I won’t get close to that. Oh well, it will work for range ammo at that price. Is your trigger as awful as mine? I get 7 1/2 pounds single and just over 12 double, and that’s after putting in 10 pound springs.

[@ToolsandTargets]

7 1/2 pound single?😲 The one on this Tracker feels pretty much along the lines of my other taurus revolvers. I think I've measured the small frame ones around 3 1/2. This one feels pretty much the same but now I'm curious!

[@adonikam1]

I will not use any other bullet for carry than the XTP. They always expand, penatrate deeply and keep more than 95% of their mass! (HINT) they expand through denim extremely reliably also! EXCELLENT EXCELLENT VIDEO!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👍

[@pistolgrip44mag]

My favorite handgun round. That is also where I derive my handle from. (Instagram same name).

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice.😎👊

[@jona5517]

The 44special for the pmc is even worse. The bullet fails to expand at all due to the much lower velocity and will pass through two blocks of gel. Goes to show the fudd lore that 44 specials never over penetrate.

[@jakeoutdoors9600]

That Taurus 44 looks like it may be a nice firearm to carry especially in the woods. Do you have any real time in carrying it? Also excellent test, I thought the PMC would have done better.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I don't really. Just range plinking but it's been perfect. Thank you sir.

[@youngboyharless9769]

I've carried my Taurus tracker a few times. Mainly when camping/hiking. Its been a great gun so far for 500-600$ It's relatively light for 44. And being a 5 shot, not too thick. Gives me peace of mind in hog territory (everywhere down south) or when in black bear territory, Ouchita mountains.

[@DHS956]

Love the Honesty 44mag round nice expansion

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎👊💥

[@Fyoutube444]

Good detailed video as always thank you sir!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@anthonyburdine2873]

The PMC bronze may not be a good expander but it shoots really accurately in my snub nose and lever action, that and Winchester but the Winchester is much more expensive

[@guardianminifarm8005]

44 magnum is difficult to beat. Good results with Hornady

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely a beastly round.

[@harryhellmold2512]

Always enjoyable and knowledgable and man nobody rocks that crazy hat like you.

[@KD-lb9bg]

Another fine round of Jelly Time testing, thanks as always.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@pewspaws6795]

Good to see 44 mag testing. I have a good selection of 44mag I really enjoy the 44 mag. It was my wifes first gun and she loves it so much. Great video keep up the good work

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. It's a heck of a round.

[@leederby136]

I think I would only usePMC ammo as target practice only. The Hornady ammo was awesome! Thanks for the video Tools 🤠

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed.

[@ronaldmcdonald4103]

I shot a whitetail with the pmc bronze 180gr jhp it expanded and shed its jacket the lead core was found right underneath the hide on the opposite shoulder the jacket loged into the shoulder deer ran about 20yards with a heartshot i think next year i will swap to the xtp

[@earlmorrison8163]

Wow, that Hornady sure made that gel jump !! I have shot that xtp before and like you said , you know you shot a 44 mag !! Great video !!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@corybrown8422]

Great performance out of that Hornady considering the Tracker is really a 3 inch barrel. I have the same on in Stainless. Man it is a handful with spicy 44. I usually take mine for hog hunting. I use the Underwood 240 grn XTP. Awesome round. Drops hogs right there if you hit them in the right spot.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🐷💥

[@misterx8592]

Wish we had some hogs over here in Kansas. But the State shoots them at the border so they sont make it across the State line….

[@leonhart2452]

If it had a three inch barrel then Taurus would advertise it as three inch barrel. Perhaps you don't know how to measure a barrel! How do you measure your barrel? I measure from the front of cylinder to end of the muzzle. The way your supposed to.

[@corybrown8422]

@@leonhart2452 The last inch of "barrel" is ported. Not only that but it is not rifled and is a larger diameter than the barrel itself. Therefore it does nothing for adding to the velocity of the projectile. The last inch is basically an integral muzzle break. Why do you have to be so rude lol. I own one, pretty damn sure I know what I am talking about.

[@youngboyharless9769]

@@corybrown8422 i'll side with you. You're right. If anything the barrel is probably in the 3.3 inch range. I still like the tracker, decent trigger, sights, not too heavy, good grip. And it shoots 255 grain projectiles quite swiftly, with precision if you do your part. I imagine the ports help a little with recoil, but they can be a pain to clean if you don't have the right brush/solvent combo.

[@tubbyshvfd9110]

Do you think the pmc would benefit from a carbine length barrel

[@ToolsandTargets]

Possibly. I need to try it out of my Henry.😎👍

[@tubbyshvfd9110]

@@ToolsandTargets good idea lol, not sure I’m expecting better. Maybe a little extra velocity will be what it needs

[@marcthomas2482]

I'd say you have a good plinking round and a good heavy hitter right there. The old Taurus Tracker did pretty good. That was a good test Tools. Hope you have a great week!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Been a while since I had the ol Tracker out.

[@christrong3046]

I cant help but wonder if the PMC may perform better out of a lever action with the faster speed and potential to expand? Good video as always. 👏👏👏

[@ToolsandTargets]

Probably so in this case. I'll have to test it out.

[@SW-oo2jw]

Bet higher Velocity would expand that hollow point a bit. Great for hog, no doubt!

[@JohnSmith-nd9oh]

Maybe some of that advertised speed difference, is from revolvers with much longer barrels?

[@innercityprepper]

now THAT is a nice looking wheelgun!

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎💥

[@Rex-cl2lo]

Awesome video , I like .44 mag I have a winch 92 and a ruger 96/44 here in france revolvers are very hard to buy and govt can spoil you in no time so I sold my s&w 29 before they spoil me ...

[@frankrodriguez9697]

180gr works good in old rifles with 1 in 34" twist rate.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@marlind.odermatt8108]

Thank you for this video, after I get sighted in all my shots are on game (or close to it LOL) and Hornady has yet to let me down in rifle or pistol calibers.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🦌💥

[@boondogger]

Nice test! I've never had any good things to say about PMC other than there prices. Normally bought them from the gun shows for just burning up ammo when that was a luxury! Mostly ball ammo and it was very inconsistent, have a local shop do my loads for my 44 all the way up to 300 solids.Stay safe and good on ya 😉

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice. Thank you sir.

[@mot0rhe4d40]

If the box is reading 1700 fps..They may be intending it for use from a rifle/ carbine. 1700 fps would be about the right speed. And would get it to full expansion I would think..

[@ToolsandTargets]

Gonna have to check it out.😎👍

[@mot0rhe4d40]

@@ToolsandTargets Be worth a try. I figure you squirreled away enough that it would be good to know.👍

[@TheTruth-sd8ey]

That XTP 200 is a great self defense round. I have them in 240 but i'd prefer 200gr. As for 180grainers, the fastest i've tested through my revolvers are PPU180 1680fps/6" and Remington UMC 180 1630fps/6". But this pmc was a let down. Great test 👌

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@garrettschienschang4399]

I occasionally carry a 180 xtp in my 44 edc. Nice to see the 200 does just as well

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@cryswimmer]

Thanks for the useful information. I do enjoy the wheel guns.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@jeffreyrobertson7652]

Great Jelly Test Tools the Hornady performed Great Stay Safe Stay 2A Strong 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@scottodonahoe9505]

👍 I'm the only one left in the pool as to when you're going to clean up that tree so you can stop sweating about cleaning it up !

[@ToolsandTargets]

🤣🤣🤣 I actually had plans to get rid of that on Saturday, but I couldn't take but so much of that heat. Fall's comin soon.😆

[@haroldhatcher1239]

@@ToolsandTargets I’ve got a tree waiting for fall weather too 😂😂😂

[@rsbreeze]

"Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being this is a . 44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've gotta ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?"

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@misterx8592]

👍🏻🍺🍻🍺👍🏻

[@thomastune776]

YEEEEEEHAAAAW baby 🤠

[@BulletsB4Guns_2A]

Another good video. Thanks Tools

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you as always, brother!

[@matthewtalich9989]

I try to avoid the fragments especially since I only use 44 mag for hunting but the PMC bronze was junk. Hornady was far better. I'm real curious but do you feel like the ports on your Taurus improve the guns handling? It would be interesting to see a more in depth review of that gun.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I would imagine they do. I don't have another one that isn't ported to compare it against, unfortunately.

[@dirtyscoundrel2013]

Tbh I expected better performance. I personally am not a fan of porting. But I wouldn't mind having a few trackers.

[@lorenharrison8580]

Great video Tools could you do the same test with your Henry lever action?

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Sounds like a good idea.😎👍

[@shaneiveson517]

I think that pmc is a carbine round 16-18" barrel and that hornady is probably out of a dirty harry length like 8"3/8

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@keithtate1241]

Another great jelly test. Thanks for the video and have a great evening.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you, my friend!

[@robertharing7031]

Hornady packs a wallop and I wouldn’t wanna get in front of any thing 44 mag

[@ToolsandTargets]

Amen to that!

[@rangetime6779]

Glad to see 44Mag testing! PMC performed as expected, Hornady was the star. That's a great load.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir!

[@arithia5874]

Love your channel! Might be funny to test a .44 black powder pistol.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@jorgesolis9468]

Remington 180 gr soft point expands more😂

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆

[@keithrichardson4333]

I wonder if pmc figured these would be used in a rifle and that's where the got their numbers from. Their test barrel may have been 20 inches. Either that or they were embarrassed by the performance and wanted to save face printing thise velocities on the box thinking noone would ever test them. Just thinkin out loud. Excellent video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆 Thank you sir.

[@scottierunsick5061]

That xtp does me well in my 9 mm and my 357s good stuff love xtp

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@WayStedYou]

The PMC would probably work okay in a levergun but it might be too fast and just break up.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely gonna have to try it out.

[@usmc249]

If I recall you’ve picked up .44 mag Hornady full copper rounds. Lets see them. Always like .44 mag videos

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir.😎👍

[@timg7627]

Great video, again 👍 I often wonder about using rounds like the PMC instead of buying more expensive hard cast. I don’t know, a tiny bit of expansion with plenty of penetration seems like it would work just fine in any situation needing a hard cast 🤷‍♂️

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Very true.

[@RL-RL]

PMC reminds me of the Sierra brand. They need to make changes to keep the customers happy. Hornady FTW!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@randlerichardson5826]

I got a 100 count bullet box from Hornady of the 200gr XTP’s. I shoot them in my muzzle loader.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice

[@truthhurts7836]

The Hornady was impressive. Another great video keep them coming 👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@Bob-lq9ys]

Great test , we can always count on you to give an honest review , Thank you

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@kenworland1865]

The difference in business and serious business!!! 👊👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@frank6029]

The Hornaday did absolutely fantastic seems like the perfect load as always Stay Safe and God Bless 🙏🙏

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@terrell48]

TheHornady looks goodI wonder how much fragmentation would you get from a carbine length barrel

[@ToolsandTargets]

Gonna have to try it.

[@walth5336]

I wonder how the PMC would do out of a carbine rifle. I suspect it would just fall to pieces

[@ToolsandTargets]

I need to find out.😎👍

[@B_R_]

Thanks

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@poormansyoutube686]

You could so tell a difference in the round sounds when fired

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep. Felt a whole lot different.

[@haroldhatcher1239]

Hornady XTP Is great !! I will buy and use some of those. PMC not so much. If that’s all I had I would use them but I wouldn’t buy them.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@marlenzacharias7301]

Those pmc seen to work well in a rifle

[@carbonspyder235]

Think that Hornady would be a good hunting round, would like to see it out of a rifle 👍🏻

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely need to try both of these out of the Henry.

[@sumoneelse6881]

@@ToolsandTargets please do

[@timhelton624]

Pmc = just junk flat out junk

[@SpOoNmAn365]

The 240 XTP in .454 are the most accurate out of my Raging Hunter. I've tried a box of all brands & weights. After 200 rds, ill never buy anything other than the xtp. Now if I was in grizz/brown territory, the heavy Underwood or Buffalo bore it is. But for everything else, 240 xtp reigns.

[@carbonspyder235]

@@SpOoNmAn365 Good to know always like positive feedback got some I'm going to try this week

[@pewpewTN]

Dang, those PMCs are loaded to decent 10mm power. They need to step it up a bit.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂😂😂

[@bmx7596]

I was surprised your muzzle rise didn't look much more than a hot 9mm out of sig365 or small-ish 9mm, but double the energy on impact lmao

[@ToolsandTargets]

Mhmm

[@greasyweezel9540]

Always a good day with TT - Thanks

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya, my friend!

[@rjw261984]

The PMC velocity is prob from a lever action rifle 🤣. That XTP was no joke! 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, I need to try it out of my Henry.

[@j.t.cooper2963]

The only way they were getting that kind of speed on the box was through a carbine. The XTP was great. 👍🏻😎

[@ToolsandTargets]

No doubt.

[@chrisgabbert658]

👍😊🎯 those pmc are good plinking ammo . I’ve shot the xtp for years tho the 300gr 🤷‍♂️ my old pistol is a 🕳 puncher with them.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice.

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

Could you repeat this test with a 44Mag with a longer barrel just to see if that makes any difference with the PMC Bronze ?

[@ToolsandTargets]

I can run em out of my Henry.

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

@@ToolsandTargets That would be nice to see too. I’m gonna try to get a Deer with my Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag with 265gr. Handloads and / or My Glock 41 MOS with 200gr. HardCast Coated Handloads

[@texasbeast239]

Suh-weet. Somewhere out there, Dirty Harry is drooling.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎💥

[@christopherbishop4927]

To be positive, pmc through a carbine barrel might actually be........ok Thanks Tools, I will stick with my 10mm's

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely gonna have to test it out.

[@joshoconnor5005]

I have one of those guns and I love it but what I don’t understand is The barrel concept on this. When I bought it I thought it was a 4 inch ported barrel I later realized it is only a 3 inch barrel that builds pressure behind the projectile and then the 4th inch has no barrel whatsoever. So it’s a three inch barrell with a one inch ported “area” that contains no barrel in it. Does anyone know what was the purpose of this design?

[@ToolsandTargets]

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