This Charity Is Lying To You

The Open Hand Foundation, founded in part by Jirard Khalil (The Completionist) has been keeping and storing donations for 10 years.
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[@karljobst]

Thanks to Someordinarygamers for helping with this. He did a more thorough breakdown you can check out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3rXc5enocRrfKs Links to the filings are in the description as well as the official comments by Open Hand.

[@gorfelbt]

Ohhhh, that explains the similar release times.

[@bellow85]

Nice change from Billy and gaming

[@numberonecrate]

congrats on 900k btw. you deserve the world

[@dankwojak3689]

I was not expecting the tag team

[@WithScienceAsMySheperd]

@7:00 honestly as much an ahole Doug Walker of That Guy with the glasses change the channel scandal could be... he kept bringing good charities to the eyes of the public in spotlights at the end of his videos... to think The Completionist could not find ONE in 10 years is pathetic...

[@Zap_Games]

Unless you do an exceptional speedrun, you DO NOT want Karl making a video about you.

[@CaptainStuhlgang420]

+1 :D

[@TheIceIvy]

Or when you find a heartbreaking bug making great advances in that representing scene.

[@SayAhh]

Karl is the Ronan Farrow of the VG world.

[@nathan94251]

😂

[@OtakuD50]

Exceptional *legitimate speedrun.

[@herosshade2247]

"The IRS never reported any fraud" is basically saying "it's not illegal if you don't get caught"

[@lyndsiedrapeau527]

True

[@roguemerc]

If murder was illegal, why haven't the police caught the Black Dahlia killer? Checkmate!

[@ryuno2097]

@@roguemerc Oh snap!

[@jetlox]

You could also say the same for Jack the Ripper and many other murderers that have never been caught

[@takanara7]

There are a ton of "Zombie charities" that basically just use all their money for to pay for more fundraising, along with paying members of their board. They then hardly do any actual charity work.

[@Collinmasteller44]

Apparently the one thing he can’t complete is a donation.

[@tylrooo]

This.

[@SaboTopHat]

A lot of the jokes in this comment section are kinda in bad taste. This one tho. This one’s good.

[@DragonstoneWolfe]

😂😂😂

[@kebokev7519]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@bschneidez]

He is just trying to get the million dollar donation achievement out of the way first

[@daffyphack]

So the initial donation of "body parts" (which is a wild way to phrase that) was presumably the donation of his mother's body to science, or that she was an organ donor. Which means that she has done far more good than her kids have.

[@sarads7877]

Them even mentioning that is wild, like 💀 what was done with his mum’s body is literally nobody’s business

[@smidgen]

i hate that they phrase it "we donated body parts"; no you didn't, your mother donated body parts. she was an organ donor, why are you taking credit for that??

[@Lucifersfursona]

@@smidgen”we have entered a new state of reality where the living can donate body parts while alive” we had not

[@Traflaw534]

A dementia charity forgetting to disburse donations. Sometimes jokes write themselves.

[@five12man]

🤣...😭...💀

[@Moodyskeletonz]

Ah y'see they didn't mean the charity was FOR people with dementia, it was RUN BY people with dementia

[@plufim]

I shouldn't have laughed, but... lol

[@bogganalseryd2324]

😂😂

[@PinballCollection]

They forgor 💀

[@Caydiem]

"In honor of my mom" hits differently when it's associated with a scam.

[@mogyesz9]

Maybe they also have mild dementia and keep forgetting to actually donate the money.

[@frostedgamer8484]

​@@mogyesz9LMFAOOO

[@deepak-ui5li]

His mom would be ashamed of him.

[@Oecobius33]

You have to read it in Muscle Man's voice.

[@duskgaming18]

​@@Oecobius33Omg, I cannot unhear that now. Lmao "You know who else likes making false charities for profit...MY MOM!"

[@MichaelJM]

I am stunned by the audacity of Open Hand to ask you where they should send the money. How about the places they publicly claim to donate to?

[@HAVOK586]

I've seen smooth-brains in the comments here claim that Open Hands' incompetence is proof that they are not scamming people. They were simply burdened with too much "choice-paralysis" to make an informed decision. They haven't found the right organization yet? Bullshit. Open Hands defenders' mental gymnastics are impressive, but bootlickers gonna bootlick. If your entire existence as an organization is to be a charity middleman, you kinda need to know that sort of thing in advance. Otherwise you shouldn't even have the confidence to exist as a full-fledged charity at all.

[@orangejjay]

What I don't understand is why they're holding on to the money. It doesn't make any sense. Is the $11k in "expenses" really worth a fraud conviction? Sounds like the money they were "raising" before 2014 was going right into their pockets and only after public pressure to become a 501(c)(3) did they truly become a charity. It should be noted that to become a charity you have to first register as a for-profit business and after some time, you can ask the IRS to switch you. Doesn't mean it's necessarily hard to make that switch or that you have to give your money away since "raising awareness" counts as a charitable cause and you can have employees that do this work for the "charity."

[@MichaelJM]

@@orangejjay Yeah holding onto the money doesn't make any sense. I really hope it's true for the sake of everyone involved. But if I had to bet, I'd expect this story will have a few more twists and turns. It's just a number on a form right now with nothing else backing it up yet. The thing is, if there was something more nefarious going on, filing these forms with the IRS the way they have seems like the worst way to go about covering something up. It makes no sense any way you slice it.

[@Epic501]

​@@orangejjay>holding all your fraudulent gains in a bank account during one of the lowest interest periods in a generation. Inflate that money away, guys. Stonks

[@gnarlax2005]

You're shocked that a charity would offer to act as an intermediary like thousands of other charities do?

[@jonathanstark9147]

KZbin has the dangerous effect of making its celebrities appear to be your buddy, just normal people hanging out with you, instead of the businessmen and marketers they actually are.

[@culwin]

Not just KZbin, every platform on the internet. And off internet too. It's all about image.

[@cosmic24wizard84]

Not only that, but it is quick for people to jump the gun without waiting and learning all the details. One of the many reasons why cancel culture doesn't really work.

[@culwin]

@@cosmic24wizard84 It works great. It's pretty awesome that garbage people are called out. The only people who don't like "cancel culture" are garbage people, and calling it that is a big clue, like "woke".

[@borginburkes1819]

@@cosmic24wizard84lmao most people who get cancelled are cancelled WITH PROOF. You think old tweets where they say the n-word are fake or something?

[@gur262]

​@@cosmic24wizard84it's fine if it's based on an intricate bit of research like this. Best by someone with an image to lose. It's not so great when it's a 3 sentence allegation by someone new on Twitter.

[@TheGadgetGod]

The Completionist sure is taking an awfully long time to complete this charity donation

[@glunkus]

Best comment 2023

[@mikemccann978]

In the meantime though, he’s completed plenty of value meals.

[@chillstorm2341]

Goated comment, lmao.

[@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819]

Oh snap, he's suddenly reviewing Donkey Kong Country 2.

[@Anon-lu6ct]

🤣

[@i_am_ergo]

1. Publicly claims that he's been sending funds to organizations X, Y and Z. 2. Explains in private that he hasn't actually, because he's still looking for a trustworthy organization to support (i.e. X, Y and Z aren't trustworthy). 3. Continues to publicly claim that he sends funds to X, Y and Z. Not shady at all.

[@PreferredCustomer]

The Curse of JonTron is real. EDIT: There have been several requests to elaborate. For those of you who have access to the "Inter-net" (also known as the World Wide Web), you can look up the history of JonTron and NormalBoots shunning him instead of standing by theur co-worker. For those of you without Internet access, I'll summarize: Jon Jaffari went on a podcast and related an example of something he had heard to make him second guess the modern narrative. For daring to only ask a question--nor state his actual beliefs--his other collaborators at NormalBoots dud not respond with empathy and discussion. Instead, they immediately decided that he was Super Demolition Hitler and all but chased him away with torches and pitchforks, declaring they would never want anything to do with him ever again. When he was at a public controversy, his so-called trusted friends abandoned him. Jirard for years has attempted to place himself in a holier-than-thou position between that incident and virtue signaling--and now we see the prideful facing a mighty fall.

[@the0nlytrueprophet942]

On an unrelated note, have you seen his sick Ferrari!

[@Allen.Christian]

This is the most damning thing. They're not worthy of your money but you shout them out constantly as organizations worthy of support? I don't buy it.

[@kankeydong2500]

​@@PreferredCustomerwhat the context on that one?

[@holitinne]

I dunno. That sounds kinda shady to me. 😂

[@DresdenShuffle]

For those wanting an update. Open Hands response to this video was to try to have this video removed for a privacy concern. KZbin denied their claim. Karl has posted the info of the denied claim on his Twitter.

[@NicoTheCinderace]

That outright shows that Open Hands is guilty as fuck.

[@jimjam2282]

Yup, totally innocent behavior here. Attempting to censor someone expressing concerns. It would take maybe an hour to show reciepts and debunk any conspiracies. IF there's nothing to hide, that is. Why try to take the video down? Jesus christ.

[@DresdenShuffle]

@@NicoTheCinderace99.999999 percent chance yeah. Some people are still defending him but that’s their opinion. To me the response speaks for itself

[@CS-ge2fm]

I’m sorry I think I might’ve misheard you. THEY DID WHAT?!?!

[@lifehurts1183]

Jirard clearly doesn’t know about the Streisand effect.

[@MegaDchamp]

Jirard's main focus is on his own public image, just hearing him say "even if I donate the money now, it'll just look like I'm trying to cover it up" tells enough. At this point there is no graceful way out of this, and if he did just donate the money, at least he's finally doing what he promised us. The solution being so simple, yet still not happening, makes me feel like they're lying, and have spent more of the charitable funds than they're documenting. This all feels very greasy.

[@moonlitxangel5771]

I agree. Like dude your public image is hurt either way. This isn't gonna go away and it's just gonna get bigger and bigger until it gets publicly addressed. He could easily get back in MOST people's good graces by donating the money now and putting forth an action plan to make sure this doesn't happen again. Instead, Open Hand or someone affiliated with them tried to falsely get this video pulled down. And it's even worse, because Jirard said he knew since 2021 (dunno why he kept saying 2022 in the video even though he clearly states 2021 in the call clip) so for TWO YEARS he did nothing about it and kept acting like the money was going directly to specific charities when it wasn't. That's sketchy.

[@thecuto]

Yep

[@lbds954]

Them asking you for "recommendations" for dementia charities at the end of the email is such a blatant red flag. With that question, they're trying too hard to make it seem like they're actively trying looking for somewhere to donate to... but this implies they have zero knowledge of *anywhere* worthy of their donations, even after *an entire decade* of apparently working with such organisations. After all that, they're going to ask you - someone who is in no way involved with any dementia charities (as far as I'm aware) - if you can recommend somewhere to them, a charity that's meant to have been doing this for years? So what, they think you're going to have better knowledge about this cause than them? That's blatant overcompensation with their lie, and they didn't think hard enough about how that just makes them look completely incompetent as well as fraudulent. Pathetic.

[@dudeguy8686]

Manipulative as well, almost as if attempting to bribe Karl with his pick of charity

[@yofyo]

this EXACTLY -- what has their org been doing for 10+ years while they have been pocketing six figures in 'organizational costs' if not finding a place to donate their money? the singular thing they said they are doing and it's all a lie. they are rats. I hope the IRS tears them a new rear end

[@KaitlynBurnellMath]

Asking for advice here could make a little more sense if they had no idea who was emailing them. Like...maybe the person emailing them could have been just be a strong advocate for dementia research. But you can very clearly see from the youtube video that the email is from "Karl Jobst". Like...no, that's just not the person to ask LMAO.

[@mysticalplatypus87]

Lmao, they still haven’t found a suitable charity to donate to in 10 years!!! Clearly in the wrong line of work

[@kavinh10]

hey my friend Rob is definitely a licensed medical researcher so we're going to donate all 600k to him. Whose Rob who knows I lost touch with him yesterday. That's how its going to play out.

[@emilyofjane]

This is why you always donate directly to charities. NEVER do it through a third party, which is exactly what Open Hand is.

[@bigred6137]

They’d actually be a third party.

[@emilyofjane]

@@bigred6137 Thanks for pointing that out! I always get those two confused lol. I went ahead and edited it

[@spaghetti-friends]

There are plenty of reputable charities that distribute money to other nonprofits. Most "Foundations" would fall under this category.

[@Bronxtale7645]

Actually Charity it's itself a huge scam, Even when you pay directly to them you don't really know what they're doing with that money There's lots of cases of Hospitals, Orphanages, Churches who are in a constant state of receiving charity funds for decades and they simply don't care to show were all the money is going

[@user-sf9gs2pg1b]

@@Bronxtale7645 Reminds me of televangelists

[@Tacoman450]

I had lived with my grandma for 24 years. During the last few, she had alzheimer's, but because of the treatments she was getting, she wasn't really affected by it until the last 4 months of her life. I was the only one who could get her to eat anything, and even then, she didn't seem like she knew she was hungry. She also laid in bed all day, doing nothing but sleeping. Seeing her spiral into what she became made me very sad and pitiful for her. She went from the closest person in my life to what could only describe as a tormented person trapped in whatever hell she was in. I cried when I last saw her, she looked like she was in so much pain and discomfort lying in that bed. With how personal alzheimer's and dementia is to me, I despise someone like this who willingly held money for seemingly no reason for this cause. I am not saying we could have it cured with this money, but I would believe we would have a bit further progress on understanding and possibly curing it.

[@Vykk_Draygo]

Understanding probably. Curing seems unlikely. Prevention, possibly.

[@mr.bluesky4130]

Honestly when they sent the "Can you help us find some good places to donate?" I would just have sent them clips of every time Jirard says they gave money to UCSF etc.

[@LedgerBalance]

Tax accountant here: If you believe they are being shady or fraudulent, please file an IRS Form 13909, Tax-Exempt Organization Complaint (Referral). Information for lines 1 and 2 can be found on the Form 990 (nonprofit tax return), right up top. Under line 3, mark "Other," list out your complaint. In this instance, describe their false claims of helping the cause and lack of transparency in listing out expenses. Line 4, Jirard, and his necessary information. Dates should include all tax years (2014 - 2022). In line 5, put your info. Yes, you have to. Oh, by the way, "I haven't gotten caught yet" isn't a defense against allegations against your organization. That's something scammers say.

[@ghost_ship_supreme]

Get this comment to the top!

[@KaoruMzk]

Can you fill the form if you're not from the US? Karl is Australian, I believe.

[@LedgerBalance]

@KaoruMzk I don't know, but I would presume yes. The form doesn't have any spaces for international information, though, so I wouldn't know how to fill out line 5.

[@jamesburton4352]

Thinking my tax guy might be a Brony has made him potentially 1000x more interesting.

[@chipsleftwing]

bump

[@Grazzinator]

You know Karl is disheartened by this story when he didnt start the video by calling us abselute legends :(

[@doolenny9458]

Yeah this is just a upsetting video to watch no absolute legends today just the fall of a legend

[@michaelmaloskyjr]

Wow, just realized that too. Set the tone.

[@Retro_Rainer]

it really is upsetting. I'm not the biggest fan of jirard, but I watch his content from time to time and really enjoy it, plus I like him and the way he presents himself. now I'm kinda bummed out. never thought something like this would phase me, but it does. strange.

[@CHOUT86]

That's the first thing I noticed

[@lucg4005]

It’s cause this is extremely serious news. It’s one thing to fake speed runs for your own gain, it’s a whole other matter to lie to people’s faces saying their money is going to potentially save lives. I’m even more disappointed that the completionist made that charity in the first place for his mom. How the fuck do you disgrace your own mother’s death with the charity you made in honour of her?! I still want to hear both sides since we don’t have all the info, but man I feel so bad for everyone who donated to them, they probably feel the most betrayed.

[@KrotharSmash]

Just the argument of "no wait, we've been sending body parts to organisations" is fucking wild.

[@aTerraxia]

I used to be a fan of Jirard, but I was part of the WoW guild they were running at the time that Greg was kicked from the channel. I was pretty heavy involved with the raid team and ended up catching a lot of the behind the scenes drama that Jirard tried to bury. I’ve known what shady, greedy narcissistic parasite ever since and I’m glad more people are seeing that his “Good Guy” front is all an act.

[@bitwolfy]

Kinda funny, I realized he was a narcissist when he pretended that he preserved the Eshop (He didn't come close) and uploaded a video talking about how selfless of an act this was, spending thousands of dollars to ""preserve"" these games and selflessly donated it to a museum. Basically blowing over 10k to buy games no one can actually play and just sit in a museum forever (Keep in mind, the Eshop was already preserved online for anyone to freely download, even if he dumped everything nothing new would come of it.) I was told I was projecting, glad to see people recognize the dude has an ego the size of a country.

[@annorabelle]

@@bitwolfymy brain just wondered if that was an expense he deducted😂

[@Asad-hv2dc]

​@@bitwolfydamn😮

[@pubcle]

@@bitwolfy Yeah, that was annoying but it wasn't so terrible as to make me truly disregard the man. I could see why some might argue the online vaults such as Vimm's to be insufficient & to have personally helped preserve them. It was the way he treated friends when they confronted controversies or confronted him over faults that told me everything I needed to drop him. Loyalty is a virtue he completely lacked & rather obviously so, the moment anything was inconvenient to his career he would personally make sure that person jammed in the wheelhouse of a bus. It was further hurt by his closeness with Jessie Cox who was a blatant narcissist in my opinion & at one time personal interaction with the man, extremely hostile & unwilling to admit to genuine fault without a load of qualifiers that made such meaningless.

[@j_clarkson]

I just wanted to let you know that it did not go unnoticed that this video did not have your usual ads/sponsership. You're a class act, Mr Jobst.

[@CelticGuardian7]

I noticed that as well and was happy to see it. =)

[@RNorthex]

He didn't even try to take credit for it, just did the right thing

[@bulb9970]

Jobst is one of the few glimmers of hope in this sea of youtube drama

[@DGincorporated1]

Didn’t notice cuz I pay premium

[@watcherofwatchers]

No, but SponsorBlock does.

[@wallyman292]

Holy crap! Publishing a "thank you for the gift" quote from a Dean that was fired from the college SEVEN YEARS BEFORE your charity even existed is a HUGE red flag in its own right! I'd love to hear Jirard explain that one away!

[@CheesyLizzy]

Ikr!

[@TheUltimateBlooper]

We all know how that goes... "Oh, the website was created by a 3rd party and some intern made a mistake" type rubbish...

[@Goryus]

It is probably that they once made a donation of some kind to the UCSF, likely in the period from 2003-2007 (that would be after the organization was founded, but before it became a nonprofit). This would explain the "historical donations" they used to justify putting UCSF on their web page, and also why they have a quote from the dean at that time on their web page. But whatever that interaction was 20 years ago, it has nothing to do with the last 10 years of soliciting public donations.

[@adamg7984]

I have always thought Jirard was a good guy, I still am leaning towards him being a good guy who's botched his charity but intends to still send that money to researching Alzheimer. But that still won't ever excuse the, at the very least, manipulating he's done and the lies he's said to get people to donate. There's just no damn way he didn't know the finances were never sent to charity and if he found out in 2022 and it wasn't immediately dealt with he should have started legal proceedings to cover himself if his brother was embezzling the donations. He has done nothing of the sort and has not been honest even since learning all the money has sat, and hopefully still sits, in an account and has helped nobody with research. There are lies he's said at this point. He's either doing these things to cover someone involved in the charity, with his brother being the most likely culprit. That said, I know nothing of his brother and am not accusing him of anything. Or he's okay with lying to his audience who he always seemed so endeared toward. I never expected him to be caught lying about his charity at all, let alone find out none of the donations have ever gone to research. I'm a bit torn because I genuinely think highly of the man.

[@Revilerify]

His explanation is that he used all the money on cake.

[@EdmondDantes224]

Since this video broke I've heard that on Jirard's own patreon, reddit, discord etc. he actively deletes any discussion of the charity. Clearly he's hoping the issue just goes away. The more I hear the less sympathy I have for him.

[@_Just_Another_Guy]

No wonder I've never been a fan of Jirard. He just gave me that scammer feeling.

[@samuelbell4853]

@@_Just_Another_Guy Yea I really wanted to like his content at the beginning but when he got rid of his funny friend I just had weird feelings about his channel.

[@Reject101Personal]

@@samuelbell4853 Considering he fucked over that friend due to money its not really so surprising he has done this as well

[@lasarousi]

​@@_Just_Another_GuyThis is the logical last stage of any KZbinr, a washed up uninteresting foreign guy trying to make the dream come true but the spark is long dead but his ego won't allow him to get a normal job See boogie for another example.

[@ComanderSazabi2000]

​@@lasarousiwas "foreign" really necessary?

[@doishooligan]

Knowing now that they are attempting to take down this video just shows their true intentions.

[@ripleynosgoth]

yep

[@lifehurts1183]

Looks like Jirard is following in Silly Bitchell's footsteps.

[@gagagero]

How do you know that?

[@rrreeeeeeee3]

@@gagagero Someone at Open House tried to take down Karl's video for "privacy concerns" KZbin rejected it. Karl posted this on his twitter.

[@gagagero]

@@rrreeeeeeee3 Thanks.

[@internetjesus]

The Completionist won’t be truly the completionist until he gets the “donate the entire goddamn thing to the charities” achievement.

[@At0mix]

More likely he went for the "YOLO it all on crypto" achievement first.

[@Starhawke_Gaming]

(plus interest)

[@alicepbg2042]

Adjusted for inflation

[@yofyo]

made money off the interest while it was sitting already stole money for 'organizational costs' he's a rat

[@kavinh10]

with interest

[@ayok101]

After hearing Jirards explanation all i can think is, does he think we're stupid? How can you be the founder and director of a non profit but be completely unaware that the 600k you've collected over the years hasn't been properly distributed? That is so totally farfetched I can't even pretend to find it funny. Idk whats going on here but it's incredibly shady and he as Director needs to answer for this. Utterly shameful

[@snailymitch]

The dude is running a youtube channel plus a ton of other things, its fairly understandable that he would leave this part of work over to his brother while he focuses on his own affairs. Its still very negligent though but i dont find it particularly farfetched hed only find out till recently

[@christiangarcia2727]

​@snailymitch still strange to take this long to find an organization

[@traviscue2099]

I've heard of rich people/people running a lot of projects to give people that they trust full power over one of their projects.. And for that family member or friend to fuck them over. So its plausable. Sketchy none the less.

[@ayok101]

I could maybe see him overlooking certain things because he has a lot going on, that is possible however 1) not noticing for almost 10 years despite being actively involved in the fundraising process is insane to me, it's not like he created this non profit and was completely hands off and 2) acknowledging that he knew the money was still there in 2021/2022 and that it was "not fucking cool" but here we are a year later and they somehow don't know where to donate to despite claiming to have partnered with charities. Those 2 things make it impossible for me to believe that he just didn't notice.

[@ayok101]

And don't get me wrong I was/am a big fan of the completionist channel, this is just shady to an insane degree. The right thing to do would be an independent audit, followed by donating the money that was collected to the proper causes. Make it right, make it transparent

[@KJShinra]

Them doing all this in their late mother’s name is disgusting and they should be ashamed.

[@inkarozu2309]

As a long time fan of the Completionist, this hurts, but I'll take a painful truth over a beautiful lie any day. Thank you for making this video and spreading awareness.

[@cronoesify]

It's fucking OVER, completionist bros. It's time for us to shamble.

[@blaze048]

​@@cronoesifyunfortunately yea, it's probably for the best

[@TheCrustiCroc]

Sadge...

[@hikairis8678]

agreed

[@Valkenhyne]

@@cronoesify so uh... about that...

[@treyparkerofficial]

I'm shocked and offended. My grandmother passed away in 2018 and her Alzheimer's was just awful. Everything was a struggle. I've donated hundreds of dollars to them thinking they were helping. Every one was donated under her name. It's not a lot of money, but for me it was. I feel sick. I'm really glad this all came out, thank you Karl for that, but I don't even know what to think right now

[@zatozatoichi7920]

Think this: if he's really a fraud (and so far it seems, he is), the law will catch him with his pants down, especially after this video.

[@KSKY2012]

I'm so sorry that happened. People who do stuff like this are the worst, I hope retribution is served and everyone who was lied to get's their money back , somehow :(

[@Lex-br4wx]

If it's a lot of money for you, keep it. Your hundreds aren't going to do much for any charity when you're just donating it to a system where fees etc are going to be taken out.

[@versaleyang]

I'm sorry for your loss. My grandmother passed away in 2016 and she had very awful Alzheimer as well. I was heartbroken when she started to forget about me, who she used to raise with the utmost care until 12 years old. At this point I think the internet is just a place that no one should put any trust in. People are becoming greedier and greedier that even the most unlikely people can turn out to be the lowest of scums. Keep the money for yourself and take better care of yourself and your family and loved ones, and if you really still want to donate for any causes, donate them directly to trustworthy organizations instead.

[@ArDeeMee]

Sounds like your grandma was a good influence on you. Big W, old lady.

[@TheKingRiku]

Lying about a charity is ine thing. Saying all of this is in honor of your late mother is a whole other depth to depravity.

[@bimbendorf5166]

Yeah. I mean, if you want to be a scamming asshole and thief, you gotta have at least some proffesional standarts

[@KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza]

and dementia really sucks, you know why? Bruce Willis, it affected him, the disorder he has, is just bad and tragic, we should be funding the treatment people, but in this world, we have the rotten

[@PonyPhuckcast]

I suppose but his mothers genes are likely more advantaged by keeping the money via deception despite her likely disapproval.

[@reptarien]

Even if this wasn't all very illegal, it is all EXTREMELY immoral. Disgusting.

[@thenonexistinghero]

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to claim you're doing a charity and then keep all the money for yourself without donating it. Doing a quick google search already shows it falls under charity fraud.

[@ThereAreThoseWhoCallMeTim]

I really appreciate how, unlike most internet commentary channels on KZbin, Karl remains completely fair and respectful as he goes through his findings on the individuals he exposes. Instead of making all sorts of spectilations and gossip or trying to milk as much drama from the situation as he possibly can, Karl sticks to the facts and evidence that he has, comes up with theories as to what’s going on without insinuating that they are anything more than theories, and tries to give the exposed party at least some benefit of the doubt before making any assumptions about their true intentions. Thank you for being one of the few truly professional whistleblowers on this platform, Karl!

[@samanthajade3782]

Oh the dry humor and sarcasm he exudes when the facts come out is just *chef's kiss*

[@ewjiml]

Typically when you hire your entire family to do the business for charities, there is an ulterior motive. It’s not because they have empathy for less fortunates.

[@NASkeywest]

He listed off specific organizations that they allegedly donated to…and they didn’t. He 100% knows it was going on.

[@lI-tm2pn]

What the fuck is the point of holding it even? Were they planning on stealing it or something? It's been 10 fucking years lol

[@alexknight81]

@@lI-tm2pn no no no no, you see, they clearly were waiting all these time to find a suitable organization to donate it to (actual thing he said).

[@Supahdenning]

@@lI-tm2pn Would've made much more sense to at least "launder" it elsewhere. This operation is just incompetent.

[@ginogatash4030]

​​@@alexknight81 on a serious note, I don't get what they planned to do with letting the money just sit there for 10 years, like what good does that do for them? There isn't much of a point to holding money that isn't yours if you don't intend to spend it for yourself, but I'm probably missing something.

[@lyndsiedrapeau527]

True

[@njebei]

Let's assume Jirard didn't find out until 2022 --- he owed it to the people who trusted him and donated to 1) fire Charles who is listed as president, 2) hire someone competent to oversee the charity, 3) put together an action plan to quickly address it, and 4) put out a video within weeks admitting to the issue with all actions taken and future steps they plan to take. It's been more than a year. Even under this most charitable of scenarios, the moment Jirard found out and and did nothing -- he owned the issue and became a part of the problem.

[@fenixfelixx]

I'd rather assume he found out in 2014, because that's the only way any of this BS makes sense, the POS still hasn't made a public statement yet, no doubt what his lawyer told him to do.

[@MichaelJM]

Yeah the correct time for him to act would have been when he found out. And if he couldn't act he should have stepped away from the "charity". Instead, from all appearances, nothing changed and he continued as if everything was normal. None of this makes any sense.

[@Barnesofthenorth]

Yep, if we assume he was telling the truth and just focused on being the face and trusted people to handle the money, he still should have basically instantly done what you said to ensure its sent out within weeks or at worst a few months. I get that admitting to it might hurt the charity, but if somebody was already calling it out he had to know it might come out anyway so admitting it and being open about how it was being solved in public would be a far better option. I don't believe that in all that time not 1 organization was found they trusted, and if they really have such stupidly high standard they could donate it directly to families struggling with bills because of it. There's so many options.

[@lasarousi]

He was in on it playing dumb. He's is the problem

[@camoking3609]

@@lasarousi yeah that's what i'm thinking too, but we're also saying if he's telling the truth, if we play and run with the story he tells, giving the hugest benefit of the doubt. than he still ends up as part of the problem

[@MrMegaManFan]

It's always the sign of an honest forthright charity when you take a look at their public records in a video and they try to get the video struck off KZbin in response. Yup. That's pure Billy Mitchellarico honesty.

[@NicoTheCinderace]

Downloaded this video just in case Open Hand attempts to strike down this video *again.*

[@nolife6013]

They tried and failed

[@QGfk1]

I don't work on neurodegenerative diseases but I'm a neuroscientist so many of my friends and colleagues do. the idea that they struggled to find a worthy recipient in one of the largest biomedical research topics is hilarious

[@Runescape.]

hint: theyre lying and stealing the money

[@QGfk1]

@@Runescape. anybody who knew anything about academic science could have already smelled something is up from the claim that they are "one of ucsf's main private partners" for giving them a few hundred thousand dollars over the course of many years. ucsf's annual budget is 8 billion. even an annual donation of 1 million from a wealthy individual is small pennies to them

[@MrNeverface]

@QGfk1 sounds like a bunch of idiots gave their money to someone who it should have been obvious wasn't the best choice. Sounds like only an idiot would have donated any money to this organization at all.

[@nlald]

It’s a foundation closely controlled by a bereaved family. I can understand (but not excuse) how family dysfunction could produce these results. Perhaps no research effort that isn’t a guaranteed cure will ever be considered good enough by the bereaved grant makers to fund? and, of course, no such research effort exists because if an outcome were guaranteed there wouldn’t really be much need to carry out the research. This is all being extremely charitable (heh) to the foundation. In light of the alleged fraud and alleged mismanagement of funds based on the public filings, without seeing the foundation’s yearly accounts I would not bet money on the foundation actually still possessing the donated funds. In any case, it seems a disservice to the field, to the donors, and to dementia patients.

[@lasarousi]

​@@Runescape.They are, but also most institutions and supposed non profits. Less than 15% of funding is put into actual research , most is lost in bureaucracy and pocketed by the legalities and LLC. Charities are just huge smokes and mirrors, putting up to the public the easy successful cases to keep face. Medicine and academia are just higher level scams

[@readams]

Note that as a director of a charity, you have a fiduciary oversight responsibility and can be personally liable for fraud.

[@OnTheThirdDay]

5:58 is pretty hilarious. They didn't even sign it? Very fishy. They don't have a proper accountant or something?

[@KaneRobot]

Good. Hopefully he's lawsuit-ed into oblivion and we never see him again. That said, I would never donate to Games Done Quick either, despite what this video says. Creepy bastards that cover for each other. If you want to donate to a charity, do your research first and then donate directly.

[@swishfish8858]

​@@KaneRobotAt least GDQ works with third-party, accredited charities, and not red flag self-startups without accountability.

[@jm329]

@@KaneRobotGDQ is scummy.

[@buckoQuentin]

Damn straight Kane-bot, that's how it's done.

[@KillEmWithStyle]

As the son of a recently passed mother who occasionally deals with feelings of inadequacy, thinking i could have done more in her honor while she was still alive, i am vindicated by knowing i haven't used her death to cheat people out of money.

[@twilliamspro]

Preach feeling the same

[@placeholderdoe]

I am so sorry to you and the replier's losses, I promise you your mothers do not think you are inadequate. The very fact you keep on living and being good despite your loss is enough to make any parent astonishingly proud. Have an amazing day

[@jrex6649]

It strikes me that this "charity" is not much more than a financing vehicle for the family members. I may be cynical but I'd wager there will never be proof of donation because the money isn't there anymore. They just claim it is and plan on sitting this out which is also why they didn't immediately donate the money after Jirard was "told" it's still there and then still not after this video hit YT. There is nothing to donate. The money is likely gone.

[@kosmosyche]

You are saying they report false info to IRS? Isn't it something they can check in like 5 minutes and then if it's false you are in big trouble?

[@culwin]

@@kosmosyche You might think so, but it's taken the FBI 3+ years to find people who stormed the Capitol on camera and they didn't even get everyone. Justice is very slow and sometimes incompetent (and sometimes complicit).

[@darky1677]

i definitely didn't expect this from the completionist. what a shame is all i can say.

[@MuthafuckinPuddings]

yeah, he seems pretty wholesome, but he also gives off this wierd vibe to me. Like I would never want to be his friend.

[@komred64]

Seems like greediness is more apparent these days

[@TheOrionStar]

It's odd the money is still there though?

[@ChicCanyon]

​@komred64 greed cant be the answer. The money hasnt been spent.

[@mattperaica7308]

I never liked him, always seemed disingenuous

[@Mousyy]

Does anyone else see the irony of a charity called "open hand" never actually paying a cent to charitable organizations?

[@TitaniumTurbine]

That’s a good point. Perhaps they should rename it “Close-Fisted”.

[@mandowarrior123]

Money falls through their fingers?

[@TheZeroNeonix]

Open Hand is a slap in the face to everyone who donated.

[@lowerclassbrats77]

Should have been called Fist Full of Donations.

[@BBWahoo]

Hebrew Hand :^)

[@TheFlyingChungus]

1 week in and zero response from The Completionist. That settles it then.

[@MatthewFronsoe]

I run charitable events with a local club. While we don't deal in donations of 600K+, we do have 1 day takings of over 30K. The checks are written the following business day. 10 years? He's either hiding something or the company is so negligent with their donations that none of them are qualified to handle this kind of work. It's not hard work, either; you generally have volunteer work forces that assist with most of the logistics. Even if that weren't the case and they had some overhead... 10 years? For a charity he supposedly cares about so much because of his mom? Sociopath behavior. I sincerely hope he does prison time. There are families whose suffering could have been alleviated by those donations and they chose to withhold them. The entire Khalil family are responsible for this and it is monstrous behavior.

[@BlueBoboDoo100]

If he truly found out last year the money hadn't moved, then I'm completely baffled as to why he wouldn't try to get out in front of this. Donate the money, make a video telling the viewers what happened, along with proof that the money is now donated. Even after the call with Karl, when he knew the jig was up, they STILL didn't do anything. Very disappointing and appalling. Good work, Karl. Thank you for doing a service and keeping people accountable.

[@aussiegecko1892]

I can understand it, especially if it wasn't sorted yet. Jirard actively making steps to fix this doesn't mean hes putting all his effort in. It probably means him being a boss and saying "I need you to sort this and report back". I suspect he's done that for this last year. Should it take that long? Maybe not but also doesn't seem unrealistic to me. Why did he not get out in front of it? Again, I can see why you wouldn't want to until it had a resolution. I can also see that making a public video because in many ways your brother may have fucked up is also something that takes a more delicate hand. Is it right? No, but is it reasonable... With all of this I think Jirard's response will be telling. I suspect "humans doing the best they can" might be all this is and it will depend on if people think that response is genuine or fake.

[@chrysler5thavenue822]

People be thinking theyre too slick for Karl. All fail.

[@opo3628]

@@aussiegecko1892 - Oh spare us. Jirard is full of BS and he knew full-well what was actually going on with the charity donations. Screw him. He deserves to be in jail.

[@kaylemain2006]

@@aussiegecko1892 LMFAO AHAHAHAHHAHA

[@yofyo]

it is too late. they have been skimming off the top for 10 YEARS for 'organizational/admin costs' they have already stolen six figures from the pile and they will keep doing it for as long as they are in possession of the money, eventually draining it. that is their goal.

[@TheJimbodean67]

I lost both my parents to dementia. Buried dad last week. This is beyond fucked up.

[@diegobelaunde4965]

Many condolences to you man. That’s rough. Hang in there

[@viralgayguy]

I’m so, so sorry. I know my condolences won’t help, but my heart is with you as someone who has watched several loved ones die of dementia. All my best to you.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Condolence

[@jesuslovesyou-mattsmith1502]

Saying it's beyond fucked up is too strong. The money is still there, not like they have spent it on lavish parties on themselves.

[@ze-ph9774]

@@jesuslovesyou-mattsmith1502 I think he very much likely knew the money was there but tiptoes cautiously around it. Still, the donor's/donator's morality was played around with here. Seriously 2014 to now? How can they not know that.

[@ZenoDovahkiin]

Karl: "Were you told the money was given away, were you mislead?" Jirard: "No, I was told nothing, I assumed wrongly that the money was given to a charity." So all the _specific_ organisations he claimed the foundation supported, he just assumed were beneficiaries? As in, he didn't just assume the money went to charity, but he just assumed the money went to UCSF, etc, specifically without ever even asking "hey, which orgs are we supporting so I can shout them out on stream?", and Open Hand being the primary supporter of UCSF, he apparently also just assumed was the case? I have to sadly say I find that significantly harder to believe than Jirard covering his rear end by throwing the others under the bus.

[@markmoore618]

The fact that they only respond with "well it's not illegal and if it was we haven't gotten caught" is such a shady response.

[@johnray527]

I'm not even a big follower of the Completionist, but I recognized him in the thumbnail and thought, "oh no." This is really sad. Even if the brother is the bigger villain, still, ugh.

[@rareosts5752]

Same here, I was like "no way is that the completionist, no way....cmon..."

[@dickvandraevan1675]

The brother isn't. He is. He's using his image to steal money. His brother isn't doing that

[@shreyanshsingh379]

​@@dickvandraevan1675they're both stealing money

[@RotalHenricsson]

I only watch him as part of the Scary Game Squad and now i'm a morbidly interested to see if he's gonna stay part of that...

[@plushiepenguin]

It doesn't really matter who's the bigger villain. As far as I can tell they're both complicit so they're both accountable regardless of how involved they are.

[@TheRealSullyG]

10 years of possible research down the drain. Even if they donate it now (after getting caught red handed), that doesn't make up for all the lost time and research that funding could have supported. I wouldn't trust a word from them, since Jirard was very clearly lying in your call and on his most recent charity stream. Shame on them.

[@YourStarboi]

Of ALL the creators, I would expect Jirard the LEST of all people. I've been watching him for years, this stings ngl.

[@YourStarboi]

Least, not lest.

[@footrot17]

Look up the Alzheimer's research scam. Essentially falsified research had scientists look in the wrong direction for over decade

[@medes5597]

Honestly that amount, while huge to most of us, would be a drop in the bucket for Dementia research, it's likely not had an effect in those terms. However where it would have an immediate a material effect is in supporting and helping families with a loved one suffering from dementia. Everything from helping make homes more accessible for people with dementia, general care costs, nursing costs, even every day costs like food become incredibly difficult if you're caring full time for a loved one. It's absolutely awful given how many people this could have helped, people who were watching their loved ones dissappear into their illness more and more, day by day while struggling to make ends meet and meanwhile they have money that could have made a world of difference to those individual lives just goddamn sitting there. The immediate and material good this could have done is just absolutely heartbreaking.

[@michelzwiers7742]

inflation too, that $600k is worth a hell of a lot less now then it used to be

[@BfDelano]

As someone who had a family member who had dementia, and is now struggling to pay the bills, this infuriates me.

[@gamemaster468]

The thing that's the most baffling to me is how the money has just been sitting there untouched for nearly a decade now, outside of paying off the expenses of the events themselves. These guys went almost 10 years taking other people's money, and lying about what the money is being used for. But not only are they lying about what they're doing with other people's money, they're not doing ANYTHING with that money AT ALL. Like this is one of the most peculiar scams I think I've ever seen, because I don't even get what the endgame even is here. What's there to gain from taking people's money, and then just have it sit there collecting dust for years?

[@Nova_Afterglow]

the irs statements are not the actual account statements. there is no way to know that the money REALLY wasnt touched, just that they never reported it to the irs.

[@GilMeansJoy]

This is where I'm at with this.

[@gamemaster468]

@@Nova_Afterglow That makes a bit more sense. I guess we won't know for sure until we get some sorta follow up statement or something. Even still, this whole ordeal is just really strange to me. Like it's still a scummy situation regardless, but I can barely even get mad about it because of all the unanswered questions still floating around.

[@steegen101]

I could believe they've just been lazy about it

[@brettsmith9678]

A thought occurred to me, perhaps the money was sitting in some kind of interest account. Even at 1.5% or something, few hundred grand would get you an extra paycheck now and then. This would explain the motivation to keep the money in one location for so long. According to google, a 501c(3) can set up a savings account which earns interest. If they are ever caught, they could say "See, the money is still there! We haven't touched it." Which happens to be what Jirard says on the phone call, more than once. BUT that's just a theory. A charity scam theory...

[@Skeeter_Squash]

My grandmother had dementia in the last stages of her life, and she passed not remembering me or my father. I streamed to raise money for this cause and actively donated to it to help the cause. I feel so betrayed and hurt by this. Edit: thank you all for the kind words. I know now that we all need to be more careful when we choose to donate, and I should have done more research into the cause than I did, and for that I apologize. Be good to one another, we are in very dark times.

[@letseatvegemite2427]

I am so sorry for your loss. I truly can never understand how these people can sleep at night knowing they’re lying to people about where their money is going. Especially when your LATE MOTHER is a part of the cause. Absolutely disgusting.

[@daveyvalentyne7233]

My condolences, I also have streamed for Alzheimer's charity for my grandad (93 and still going strong, but its going downhill) - I get the anger here.

[@satisfiedconsumer649]

Why are you trusting people who play videogames for a living?

[@najtrows]

@@satisfiedconsumer649 Very unnecessary and negative comment there

[@letseatvegemite2427]

@@satisfiedconsumer649 What does playing video games for a living have to do with anything? Just because someone has a profession that some would view as unconventional doesn’t make them untrustworthy. Many people who play games for a living are straight, honest people.

[@DjDeadpig]

Lying about charity is one of the worst things a person can do. Scamming people as well is the rotten cherry on top.

[@kristoffer3000]

Oh boy, you're gonna be angry when you figure out what capitalists do daily.

[@REDLINE.FGC1]

​@@NaNoRarhreading is hard, but he said "ONE OF"

[@dylanram4653]

hashashiyyn@@NaNoRarh

[@BunnyArisu]

@@NaNoRarhthey said “one of the worst” you dweeb.

[@WithScienceAsMySheperd]

talking about charity also nullifies its worth! I'm atheist, but Jesus told charity must be done while NOT talking about it at all afterwards. Announcing charity on social media and geting governemtn tax credits NULLIFIES the greater spiritual deeds of charity. Period.

[@dr.shakib9961]

Even if he donates the money now it would be for the sake of his reputation and nothing else. If people like Karl don't investigate and inform us, Jirard would most likely kept hoarding all the charity money until the end of time.

[@technocarp]

It's just so weird to me lmao, like what is the endgame here? If they were never caught would they have just kept gathering donations forever until the public forgot the charity existed so they could pocket the money? Because how is it possible to forget to donate money for 9 years? It's just so baffling

[@HAVOK586]

Nest-egg for people who only know how to create content after they lose their job on TV and never know how long the KZbin thing will work out. That's just speculation on my part, though.

[@AB-dd4jz]

It's not that they forgot it's that they were probably trying to find a way to wash all of this money, in this current state the IRS will destroy them but if they found a way to create or to use a 3rd organisation that could wash the money and redistribute it to their personal account directly then they would be set, the 3rd organisation would just have to be a front which would say to the IRS that the fund have been used for research when in fact through various false payment they would go back into Jirard and his family pocket but in washed and usable state.

[@AdamTuxTengler]

@@AB-dd4jz Yeah, they can donate the money to organisation, which pays streamers to gather money for charity, so they can afford their rates ... :D.

[@thewhitemonkey64]

The idea of responding to “Hey why haven’t you sent the money?” with “Bro don’t worry crime is illegal.” knocks my socks off lmao

[@spootot]

Ermm if we were breaking the law, wouldn't we have been caught by now? 😏

[@d-m-n]

​@@spoototspit your facts brother.

[@spootot]

@@d-m-n I'm gunna fuckin puke dude brrhuhghghb

[@Yousef77077]

Bump

[@Mediados]

It's basically like saying: "Can you please give me the money?" "I DIDN'T STEAL IT! WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT?"

[@Astronomy_Live]

As a neuroscientist with some experience in Alzheimer's research, I have a lot of questions about how they propose to evaluate who to donate the money to. If they want to honor their promise that it all goes to research and none of it goes to administrative costs, that rules out a straight donation to organizations like the Alzheimer's Association. If on the other hand they want to award grants directly to researchers, how are they going about soliciting and evaluating grant proposals to ensure the money is used for legitimate, well-justified research that has a chance of yielding real benefits? How are they putting together a review panel to evaluate the proposals? I assume that they aren't going to dip into the donations to reimburse any experts for their time to review such proposals as they say all of the money is going to research, so are they paying the administrative costs themselves out of pocket? Based on the filings you showed, it seems like they are pulling administrative costs from the money that was donated, which already contradicts the statements I hear Jirard Khalil making in the video. Based on all these revelations, I would have serious reservations about participating in any kind of review panel for this organization, and likewise I don't think I'd waste my time writing a grant tailored for any request for proposals from this organization if I saw it. Sadly, the best we can probably hope for is a straight donation of all the funds raised to a more legitimate organization like the Alzheimer's Association and just accept the fact that 25% of the remaining funds will be chewed up by administrative costs. Sadder still, I have very little hope that we'll see the best probable outcome in this case...

[@casualonemmo-player2167]

Dude... insert a linespace every 4-5 lines of text... noone is going to read a wall of text

[@o7_AP]

@@casualonemmo-player2167nice to see that whenever someone makes a legitimate point or statement that lasts longer then 2 or 3 lines that the first response is still "too long won't read"

[@brad2299]

@@o7_AP true that, I found it very informative honestly

[@grimnir6169]

@@o7_APtldr. Shorten your post.

[@Eagle_SFM]

​@casualonemmo-player2167 it's not a wall of text tbh, you're just reading it on a phone.

[@uvgotredonu]

"we don't touch any of it". Turns out the only thing they've done with the money is skim it for their expenses. Made sure to pay themselves, but donating is apparently optional

[@QIKUGAMES-QIKU]

Billy Mitchell just sighed with relief when he saw a Karl Jobst notification pop up 😂

[@mamaharumi]

Lying about charity is bad enough, but as someone who cares for a family member with dementia, this fucks me up even more.

[@kirbyjoe7484]

It's not just messed up. It's illegal. Best of luck to you and your family. Dementia is horrifying to deal with. I too help care for a family with sever dementia.

[@carlcouture1023]

it should

[@vicc6790]

the particular subject matter of the scam is the least relevant thing. The relevant thing is that there is a scam taking place, any front put on by the scammers is meaningless, scammers use literally anything you can think of to manipulate people.

[@JD-mz1rl]

The only charity you can trust is the one you own and manage. This is what happens when people adopt the attitude that they can just throw money at a problem. Then inevitably, the wolf in sheep's clothing finds a way in. Charity is everyone's personal responsibility. This responsibility can only be met via money, when you are the one paying someone's bill for reasons that you have personally verified have warranted it. Otherwise, you need to provide the charity through your own direct time and effort

[@catta11]

​@@vicc6790 definitely disagree on that. of course all scams are bad, but taking advantage of peoples kindheartedness is significantly more scummy than trying to prey on someones greed or something like that imo

[@gelmir7322]

Achievement Unlocked: "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

[@psychonauts0]

Considering how long this has been going on for it's more like "get called out for being the villain you always were"

[@nameofthegame9664]

“You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself in video by Karl”

[@kidmalphisto9126]

he was never a hero

[@RavnusLock]

I wonder how.. ProJared is feeling right now.. He was abolished from everything because of a lie

[@coltonpatterson5409]

KZbin: You either die a scammer or PDF file, or live long enough to see your videos get 10% the views as your channel subscriber count

[@dwarfy2k264]

To anyone defending Jirad just ask yourself this, if no charity was worth donating too, how man years before you'd stop recieving donations as its a waste of time and money? This was my first question I had and why I fully believe its all gone. No matter how much you like the guy its insanely negligent at best but since he knew for a year at least by his own word and kept dono driving after knowing he's lying to people and thus fraud.

[@aliasella488]

The other thing is that they shouldn't have started the charity if they didn't have any plans.

[@culwin]

People defending him don't care about any of that. They only care about funny guy on internet.

[@lizzfrmhon]

I’m here to leave another comment to boost this. To steal from a charity is disgusting. And it’s doubly disgusting that they tried to take Karl’s video down.

[@NerfPlayeR135]

My grandmother suffered from dementia in the final few years of her life. She passed away about a year ago. Knowing that over half a million dollars was supposedly earmarked to help people like her, but never left Open Hand, makes my blood boil.

[@connorshaw-case6030]

Something should be done about it Could you imagine using your mum to defraud people? What kind of person you would be? Inshallah you and your granmother got the time together before the end You were lucky to have her while you did And you will be together again

[@rossmabon4472]

My grandmother died 6 years ago after long suffering with Alzheimers and this story fucking infuriates me. I saw her forget nearly everyone in my family and I am so angry that someone seems to tried to profited from people with similar experiences

[@CursedMarkZain]

Sounds like a u problem lol also 16 years ofresearch was all faked and never had concreare evidence of progressed and lied on paper and everyone and anyone part of the research where using a false flag 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 so 20 almost 20 years if research was faked for a medal look it up

[@darthsnarf]

my grandmother somewhat recently got it too. its a terrible disease, especially for the older folks since family is often all they got left. @@rossmabon4472

[@KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza]

i'm sorry to hear about your grandmother comrade, i know it can be tough, i lost mine during the Pandemic but from different reasons....but even if, actions of indecency and fraud, aswell as greed when it involves charity is the biggest lowball thing an individual could do, it can be extremely ire and make your blood boil, atleast that money would actually do something to help

[@GhettoBagel]

Dude, when you adjust for inflation and costs, the money has only been devalued for ten years. So much of it has gone to waste.

[@mikek1234]

Should have donated bitcoin I guess 😂

[@Livvvid]

As an investor myself thats exactly what It thought😂. I was like "wait... for 10 years you've had this money just sitting!?". It makes sense when you consider how boneheaded this family is. Jirard is gonna play victim and blame it all on someone else but you can tell in this video that Jirard knew this money wasnt going anywhere.

[@DrMxy]

+ 10 years of research funding never happened

[@H3nrque]

They are probably pocketing the dividends all this money generates, it's a common fraud scheme.

[@greenman5589]

Well the interest thats been built from that amount of cash sitting in the bank for that long should make up for that. As long as they haven't been skimming it off for themselves, I have a suspicion that is whats been going on though. Disgusting if true.

[@randomericthings7506]

“We don’t touch it.” And neither do the people you donated too apparently.

[@BigGayPauly]

Does anyone remember that guy Greg who was a big part of Jirard’s channel? He left around 2014, which is when Open Hand went nonprofit. I remember being bummed about it, Jirard made a post trying to save face, but Greg was like “this didn’t end on good terms, we aren’t friends anymore”. And there’s this part of me that thinks Jirard told him this plan, and Greg was like uh no screw this. Idk maybe it’s completely unrelated, but I do remember thinking Jirard’s energy shifted then. I doubt he only just learned about the money in 2022, and even if he did, he was lying about where the donations were going less than a month ago with this most recent Indieland. This whole thing sucks, and at this point, since he hasn’t donated the money, my assumption is, it’s not actually sitting in an account. It would be so easy to fix something like this if the true cause was gross negligence, but I think it’s more insidious than that. I think they collected the money, shrugged their shoulders and said “well, *we’re* a family that’s been affected by dementia….” And then just prayed no one ever looked at their financial records. Still waiting to see Jirard’s response to all of this but I’m not holding my breath.

[@vhshellscape333]

I've been saying this for years. The Greg split was weird and everyone took Jirard's side when Greg was completely reasonable. Greg was only vocal because Jirard painted it as an amicable split when behind the scenes it wasn't. As soon as Greg left, I just found Jirard's content extremely boring. Then Jirard deleted the 100+ videos that Greg was featured in. Jirard has always been sketchy. I'm surprised no one called him out sooner.

[@MoneyandLifeTV]

As a CPA this doesn't look good for them at all and they could be in some serious tax and/or legal trouble.

[@billalberkerky7069]

Currently studying for the CPA myself, and what strikes me even more that the potential fraud is the obvious wastefulness of it all. A dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow, and they've been sitting on a bunch of this cash for 10 YEARS?!?! At least invest in some bonds or SOMETHING.

[@thedoom523]

The worst part is their preparer was a CPA and didn't even sign the documents.

[@DudeinGA]

@@thedoom523How do we know it’s even a CPA that prepared it and wasn’t done by any of those involved?

[@aaron12906m]

​@@cubefreak123I'm also an accountant. I read the 2022 990. It's not invested. It's just sitting in a bank account. Probably multiple since that amount needs to be FDIC insured. But yes, a financial audit would be very quick on this foundation since they list absolutely no other assets than cash. They just need to request the dec 22 statements and tie out the final balances to the tax return.

[@GuitarSlayer136]

​​@@aaron12906mAm I wrong that an organization like this having a yearly operating cost of 20+ thousand dollars is incredibly suspect?

[@dennett316]

Over on Twitter/X, Karl has posted that someone from Open Hand has tried to get this video taken down with a bogus privacy complaint. KZbin rejected it but it's clear that Jirard and his family are feeling the heat, and rather than come forward with a statement and evidence that explains this away easily, they're resorting to dirty tactics to kill the story. Definitely something an innocent guy would do. I'd post a link, but I tried that already and KZbin didn't like it.

[@lucearthritis1660]

at this stage most people vanish or end their own life

[@chrisprice8112]

@@lucearthritis1660 hey now, let's not advocate that sort of thing, even tacitly.

[@darthgamer9861]

@@lucearthritis1660yeah woah, calm down

[@TheSanctusRem]

we can all not talk about it, but it's true. in a single video your career can be compromised

[@aliasella488]

@@lucearthritis1660 Oh dear god, what the hell?

[@peterdweber]

As for the signature on the 990, that is an electronic copy transmitted to the IRS as an XML. It is not going to be signed, however the preparer should have a signed electronic filing authorization form in their records.

[@RetroGhetto]

I raised money for Alzheimer’s on my channel...and showed the evidence / thank you letter from the charity (Alzheimer's Research UK - a fantastic charity) I would be sceptical of anyone raising money for charity and not in some way showing evidence of its submission. Very disappointing to hear this knowing what difference such a large sum of money could make for such a worthy cause that desperately needs it.

[@olafgodbless2406]

- Edit - please see my reply to this message. BIG Issue. I would like to clear a few point in this video as I work as an auditor for non profit orgs (NFP). 1. When a CPA firm e-files a 990 tax form on behalf of their client, the form is almost never signed, and instead you see the paid preparer filled by Hansen and Franklin with the Firms EIN number attached. 2. Some NFP organizations will collected money and raise cash reserves without spending any for a few periods, however you will have for NFP tax status revoked if the IRS was watching you do this. 3. See a $700 fee from the Accounting firm, I'm guessing the firm is just prepping these the same as last year and moving on. 4. it appears the board may not meet, and therefore the directors may never know how thing's are going for the organization. Unfortunately, due to their size, I believe there will never be an audit. and the tax firm prepping these returns is just rubber stamping them every year without question. If there is a big enough public out cry, the IRS may start to look into this and into Hansen and Franklin. ~Will update if I learn more.~

[@dddaaa6965]

I don’t think anything legally is even worth pursuing, but morally people need to know the money they are donating has just been sitting there stagnant for a decade, at least if nothing else for future donators to be aware that despite them saying it’s for a good cause and it’s to help families, the reality is that it has just been used for nothing and nobody and looks like it will remain that way for the foreseeable future considering it’s been a year since he been aware but still no developments.

[@platano8667]

Interesting. Commenting to boost

[@Allen.Christian]

Yeah, from a lay perspective I wouldn't think the legal issue would be in how the funds are handled so much as the continued false claims made during fundraising.

[@olafgodbless2406]

SO NEW UPDATE!!! after review of the last 7 tax returns, here are some updates to my first post. 1) This is a 990-PF for a 501c3 private foundation. They are not required to meet as a board or required to do anything to support their mission. so in that they are playing by the rules. 2) As a Private foundation, they are required to make minimum distribution which are typically 5% of prior year assets. So for the 2022 return, I would expect to see about 27,466 as a distribution. This would appear on page 10 on the 2022 return in part XII, or even on page 17 under the 4 column. I'll explain what this means below. 3) for a 990-PF, a CPA firm would typically charge between $2k and $4K. Our firm with only works with Non-profits would charge $3,500 for a first year return, and $2,400 for each year after. It appears either the first year expense is either not listed on the tax return, or it was only $500 in 2015 and now is $700 in 2022. THIS means the FIRM is putting about 2 hours of a low level associates time on the return and about 1/2 hour of time for the Firm's partner Tamera Hansen to review the associates work and file the return for Open Hands. Alternatively Hansen may just be completing the return on their own with no reviews. Now for the big part, I have calculated the impact if they were to be audited by the IRS. They would owe the required minimum distribution for the past 5 years to be made as a charitable distributions or grant, and would have to pay an IRS penalty of 100% the minimum distributions they owe. based on the past 5 years, they would owe more then $82,401 to charity and pay a penalty of $82,401 totaling $164,801. So, they both suck for not distributing funds raised for charity and they will owe a minimum of $82K of donated funds to cover the IRS penalty. Last, personally believe that Jirard was probably unaware of the funds sitting in a bank account, and was trusting both Charles (the one managing the books) and the CPA Firm of Hansen & Franklin to either tell the board if there was an issues (of which he is apart of) or to be running perfectly without him. I think best case is to stop donating to this foundation, inform others about where they can donate directly, and inform others what the foundation is doing so they will either have to stop fundraising or do something with the funds they have raised. Happy to discuss more if requested.

[@Heiteinah]

@@olafgodbless2406 Appreciate the information. Great stuff here!

[@yrobtsvt]

What a BIZARRE response to your email. Until you emailed them they had just forgotten to distribute the money, while doing annual fundraisers for 10 years?!

[@dddaaa6965]

Trying to put onus on HIM to suggest someone and insist it’s not illegal when nobody mentioned anything about legality lol. Plus I’m pretty sure it IS illegal to say it’s for charity and not give any of it to charity…not only that but it’s completely irrelevant, the host is outright lying that the money is being used to help when it isn’t and hasn’t for a decade since the inception of this “charity”.

[@yrobtsvt]

@@dddaaa6965 Yup, the Someordinarygamers video goes into that. Charities are legally required to give money to... charity

[@Catheidan]

See if they were smart they'd just say they were "raising awareness" like all the good scammers

[@marinellovragovic1207]

​@@Catheidangdq moment 😂

[@ethancrites6994]

and mentioning the personal things the family had done with donations completely unrelated to the charity

[@somethingcoolgoeshere]

This is why I suggest you donate directly to charities and not trust some man in the middle to do it (the streamer)

[@redfin382]

Why the fuck would Jirard destroy his reputation like this? It's sad. He did it to himself. Even if he donates.... It's too late. He lied for a decade. Even if the money is sitting there, his reputation is still dead.

[@YukoValis]

To answer your first question. Money.

[@notaraven]

I suspect he/ his family used the donations as a piggy bank. Take money, pay off debt, "I'll put the money back later", rince repeat. If the money has never been touched, he still lied to people for years about donationing the money to several charities. Him asking for places to donate this money is fucked because everyone that gave him this money thought it would go to places he called out specifically. His radio silence tells me enough, even if he donates the money now no one can clarify if a portion or more was funneled back in by the family to cover. Open hand needs to be investigated, audit all expenses form the last 10 years, and if it survives that without having its heads land in jail then maybe they can rebuild.

[@Keerbe]

"We were just waiting to find an organization up to our standards" Ideally you don’t want to wait AFTER getting publicly exposed for fraud to donate your funds…

[@QGfk1]

"waiting to find an organization up to their standards" in one of the largest and most well-funded fields in biomedicine lmao

[@PreferredCustomer]

Gee I can't believe The Terrorist ripped off a charity.

[@Whocareslol420]

​@@PreferredCustomer Piss off with the racism. You can criticize and judge someone for what they can control, not what they can't.

[@russmawson6744]

If you haven't found somewhere to donate the money to in 2014 why do annual fundraisers? Very dodgy

[@Pighway]

I've donated for years in honer of my dad with early onset Parkinsons. This is gut-wrenching to see.

[@SvanTowerMan]

My mom has Parkinson's. Glad I've never heard of this charity before. Not that I really donate to charities in a major way to begin with...

[@NANA0389]

Im so sorry this has happened to you, hoping your donations eventually get to the right place after this has been brought to light❤️ its so sickening to imagine someone keeping that money for their own personal benefit.. sending love and positivity☺️

[@Ccubed92]

Yal gotta stop trusting strangers

[@NANA0389]

@@Ccubed92 and youve gotta work on your emotional intelligence. Read the room this is not the time to say that. Trusting a charity run by a famous youtuber that has held big fundraising events yearly for almost a decade with no issue is not something people will be immediately suspicious of. Dont act like you didnt find out about this at the same time as everyone else.

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

You got played by a pro gamer.

[@mrpalmer3978]

Its bad enough that Bruce Willis is currently being eaten away by dementia, and many others have lost relatives and friends to it not to mention Jirards own mom. Jirard and his inner crew have some nerve

[@gferrol118]

Its awful enough as it is lying about being a charity, but using your dead mother as a way to make people donate to that fake charity is just absolutely appalling

[@Bruhther816]

I used to work at an Alzheimer's research lab. This makes me sick! The research always needs more funding, many good people have been making great strides in the field, but withholding the money for TEN YEARS is completely unacceptable. The wishy-washiness is disgusting. Him asking if you have any recommendations for a research lab at the end of the email, as if they have exhausted their own search is ABSURD and completely unreasonable. The lab that I worked at is a leading research lab in the field, accepts public donations, and has not been mentioned by Jirard or his brother. Evidently, they do not care enough to research all options in a ten year period. How many labs/foundations have they considered? That really should be enough time to look into damn near all of them, presuming that they were actually dedicated to the cause. But instead they lie about their association with an organization that they privately deem inadequate? Nah, absolute scum.

[@PhillipJermakian]

So you should super hate your government spraying neurotoxins in the sky under the guise of secretly fighting non existent global warming. Also their bioweapon attack designed to mask 5G EMF poisoning should be tilting. It only takes voices to stop them.

[@ShelfWarmer]

thank you for your service

[@gryffbirb]

May I know the name of the lab you work for?

[@trempton4106]

After 10 seconds of googling online I found atleast 15 places where I could fund research for alzheimers. So in fact they haven't tried at all.

[@USELESSDCK]

​@@gryffbirbThat may put them in legal trouble

[@Pupppeteer]

I'm seeing the completionist in the thumbnail and immediately thought no way not him!! But it's a Karl video so this man definitely knows something no one else knows.

[@MisterAutist]

I had exactly the same reaction. Damn.

[@jbc00per]

Me to, I was like no way haha but Karl always has receipts

[@DonTinker]

Same exact feeling, I don't want to believe this, I haven't seen the video yet, but... Wow, this is a bummer.

[@idano0112]

Seems about right to me, always came off as a liar. DS3 completion time claim is way too low. Plus, I also don't believe he did all pantheons in Hollow Knight with all bindings on / get all the golden berries in Celeste.

[@meathir4921]

@@idano0112 I'm not gonna speak on the charity case, but Completionist completes games for a goddamn living. They're really not that hard to do.

[@kingsmiles1]

Jirard was perfect for the new G4, they deserve each other

[@SomethingScotty]

I don't know if this is related or not, but anyone remember that one time Jirard dropped like 25k to buy everything on the Nintendo E-Shop? Isn't 25k like the amount of money that gets pulled out of Jirard's charity annually? Could be completely unrelated but...

[@celticsuave]

Karl is slowly transitioning from legendary speedrunner to youtube's biggest fraud exposer lmao. Love what you do Karl, please keep these videos coming!

[@attykarly]

YT’s biggest whistleblower is coffeezilla but KJ is close

[@amberhernandez]

Coffeezilla is a tough competitor. Pretty neat that Muta's in with both Karl and he, isn't it?

[@AbjectPermanence]

This is called journalism. Jobst is a journalist.

[@ghettoasmrisangrymanchild1852]

@@amberhernandez muta is just a knock off wanna be moist , he copies videos and uses lines word for word moist uses

[@nosirrahx]

@@amberhernandez sooooooo ..... colla?

[@NFace23]

Jirard, man 😢 been a fan of his for nearly 10 years. Can't ignore that he sounded like someone that got caught red-handed in that discord call

[@shinybreloom4027]

watching the people defending the guy saying "do you want me to take the L" to people who accused him of fraud made me laugh out loud.

[@moneenerd]

Is it possible that he didn't know that his fam has been pocketing the cash?

[@infinitecurlie]

​​​​@@moneenerdIMO I doubt it. But if he really didn't know then he shouldn't be trusted with anything except being in front of a camera because that would just tell everyone he is extremely incompetent. Even when working with family, people should know what's going on with things. (Also he should have done and said something the moment he found out. If that was in say 2022 then he had an entire year, which makes him look worse). I hope the IRS audits them.

[@IRanOutOfPhrases]

​@@moneenerdi dont think this video is claiming the family is pocketing the cash, just that the cash isnt moving ANYWHERE. This story is still bad, but it could easily be made worse if evidence ever crops up that they are keeping it for their own personal use. Right now they have been caught being negligently lazy. Not exactly thieves yet.

[@daylight_EX]

​@@IRanOutOfPhrasesbut it is moving. Expenses are being stated, but we don't know exactly what they're going towards.

[@sputnikmann6541]

Even if Jirard didn't actually know about it, and this is entirely on someone else high-up in his social circle, this still isn't a good look for him. It shows that he isn't a good judge of character, can't tell when he's being fed lies and doesn't check in personally enough to verify claims; none of which are good qualities for someone running a business, let alone a charity. Even if Jirard himself comes out of this without major legal ramifications, he's basically killed his brand.

[@OsaculnenolajO]

That's the thing. He's been a director of the charity since it was created. He can claim he had no idea what was going on all he wants, it doesn't change the fact that as a director it's literally his job to know what is going on.

[@sputnikmann6541]

@@OsaculnenolajO Is that not what I said?

[@OsaculnenolajO]

@@sputnikmann6541 Not really, no.

[@sputnikmann6541]

@@OsaculnenolajO Well, that's what I meant. Even if he didn't know, he should have known, and the fact that he didn't speaks very poorly about his capability to run his business/charity.

[@OsaculnenolajO]

@@sputnikmann6541 Exactly.

[@joepapa1189]

“Hey man, some KZbinr made a video about your speed run” “Sweet, who was it?” “Karl Jobst” “Shit”

[@redey1290]

I think an interesting dilemma is presented with the fact that even if they donate this money now, that is almost 10 years of donations toward research that could’ve occurred. I’m not saying that a cure would’ve been magically found, but that could have been scientific progress that ultimately just wasn’t.

[@LeonBelmont1000]

This will blow over in a few weeks/months and it'll be business as usual.

[@dkld6575]

​@@LeonBelmont1000 sad but true.

[@AbiyBattleSpell]

600 k seems low for scientific progress but it def coulda helped pay for a lot of doctors rides or temp housing or other services 🐱

[@carto4028]

Also it's not worth the same amount it was back then with inflation and what not. It's a little nit pick but it's a factor.

[@yofyo]

it's more than that, they HAVE been skimming off the top of this money with their """"organizational costs"""" (as you can see in their documentation). so they are even lying about not touching the money regardless if they give up whatever is left of it. taking an org cut from the money is bad faith WHEN YOUR ORG DOESN'T DO ANY ACTUAL WORK AND HASN'T FOR 10+ YEARS

[@zoroark567]

Are we actually meant to believe that a director of this charity was completely unaware of any of their financial activity for over eight years? That’s a pretty flimsy story. That information should be more readily available to them than nearly anyone else.

[@PurpleAlzir]

There is a chance he was only a director to be a public face rather than deal with the finances. But he definitely should have been able to get something done once he found out.

[@zoroark567]

@@PurpleAlzir Even as a public-facing representative, the question then just becomes, “Who was giving him this information?” He claims to have just assumed these things to be true without any information, which is at best still wildly irresponsible and at worst just plainly fraud.

[@Seyanoo]

@@PurpleAlzirthat still doesn’t make it any better, how do you go that many years without being self aware unless they really liked the money.

[@bananaman4589]

Clearly Jirad is not doing his due diligence. Anything he supports or stands by now is tainted.

[@simpson6700]

I'll belief him if all the money is still in the bank. after all, if he was scamming people, wouldn't he use the money?

[@FeelOfWartune]

protip - never give money to an organiser that confuses benefactors with beneficiaries.

[@SgtWicket]

“We just don’t know who to give this money to, but keep giving it to us obviously, we’ll figure it out someday!”

[@victorjared2820]

It is deeply ironic that somebody named The Completionist who is known for completing 100% of things, failed to donate funds for almost 10 years now that he collected for a charity that is supposedly near and dear to his heart.

[@ryukami404]

Even more ironic that The Completionist's own rating system for games has "Donate It" as the lowest possible rating that a game could get.

[@Evan-C]

Lol

[@greebj]

Completely in brand behaviour. 100% completion in failing to act like a charity.

[@simpson6700]

He was busy 100%ing games

[@victorjared2820]

@@simpson6700 🤣🤣

[@YukoValis]

So lets boil it down. In the last 10 years he has raised $780,915 for charity. He said every cent would go to a specific charity. Now only $655,520 of it is left. Over $125K has went to expenses, and $0 to charity. Open hand doesn't pay employees, and has people donate equipment and space for events. This was a selling point at events by Jirard so he could promise all the money goes to charity. They should not have expenses, each year should have been like 2014 with no expenses declared. What is the source for this information? 1: Taxes filed by Open Hand. 2: Jirard literally saying it happened while on a call. Possible discrepancy can be the tax forms, leading to 3 scenarios. 1: The tax forms were correct, making this look terrible. 2: They lied on the tax forms to make themselves look bad. 3: They lied on the tax forms and this is much worse than it actually is. Keeping in mind scenario 2 and 3 could lead to criminal charges if reported.

[@03dashk64]

I believe the $655,520 is after all of the expenses are paid. It is the “total in bank” So they made even more and paid it out as expenses

[@haroeneissa790]

Honestly the "expenses" might just be them adding the money to their private bank accounts.

[@YukoValis]

@@haroeneissa790 it probably is. Jiard talked during the events how people donated the gear and everything needed. Since Open hand was little but a fundraiser it had no people to pay.

[@alexfehners4070]

My quick math came out as just over $120k in expenses!

[@YukoValis]

@@03dashk64 yeah you were right I looked in the other field. tax stuff is so confusing sometimes. lol

[@placeholderdoe]

I feel bad for his mother, imagine this being your legacy. I am so sorry to ANYONE who donated, hopefully they get investigated for this

[@dbrandow]

The money is almost certainly already gone.

[@madaggar9765]

An audit is absolutely necessary. Things get a whole lot messier if there's something missing. Even if all of it is there, I get the distinct feeling there's going to be a messy situation now that the pressure is on full blast.

[@mandowarrior123]

Well even skimming the interest or wasting it in inflation is very bad.

[@Lendorien]

An audit is absolutely necessary and it needs to be a public one.. If they did something shady, an audit will reveal it. If they held on to the money but it's all there it's not a good situation, but at least they will be able to climb out of the hole some what. I expect the IRS will come knocking before too long because there will be complaints filed against them as a result of this expose.

[@grunkleg.3110]

​@@Lendorien​This video doesn't go into detail, but on Muta's channel, turns out they've never been very specific about what all their Line 23 'other expenses' are. As in on that separate sheet they just have a bucket named "Expenses" and nothing else. Who knows what all of those expenses could have been? I really hope some of that wasn't them pocketing the money

[@thesye1014]

Karl I hope you stay sage, this might be deep deep

[@bassamsuleman8303]

@@Lendorien😊😅😅

[@rotciv1492]

Imagine being politely consulted about some found discrepancies in your accounts and your first response is "WHAT?! I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL!!"

[@ThePhoenixScribe]

The one who yells the loudest always has the most to hide.

[@ADreamingTraveler]

Yeah that's a red flag right there. Karl wasn't saying about anything illegal being done and the first response is "we're not doing anything illegal" lmao

[@13thKingMu]

It's like how Cryto company first response is "this is not a ponzi scheme"

[@speckbretzelfan]

"The police are here. There seem to be some irregularities in the pension fund!" *jumps out the window*

[@Leon14000]

Shut up and grab lawyers. It's that simple.

[@robertpeacock894]

I work at Head of the Lakes United Way. We are a non-profit and serve the areas of Northeast Minnesota and Northwest Wisconsin. “We’re striving to improve the health, education, and financial stability of every person in every community we serve.” I’ve reached out to the Open Hand as they are searching for a partner to donate their money to, their money wouldn’t be going to a doctors salary as he’s worried about. It would instead be used to fight the opioid epidemic, fight homelessness, feed people, and provide dental services. Hopefully they’ll respond, and use the money they’ve been raising for a good cause as they intend.