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[@lonely_warrior]

I will die on the hill that yells "Chadley is Hojo getting intel thanks to us"

[@whoismorn2]

Yeah there’s gonna be some sort of Chadley boss in the next game for sure

[@xtheeliminator4967]

I'm betting on Chadley becoming omega. An AI through its encounters with gilgamesh learns of the existence of the rift. Hojo does something to corrupt Chadley leading to an insatiable desire to gain knowledge. What the ultimate issue will be I have no idea.

[@beatles123]

i mean theres a sidequest that reveals hojo is watching through him, so....

[@EPICSAWIKI]

Is that why I hate him?

[@lonely_warrior]

@@beatles123 im betting that Hojo will pull some bs through Chadley, make him an enemy or that he take us to a trap

[@Josh-in9jh]

I love Max FF7 talks. I know you’re a fighting game channel mostly, but I love your input on games outside of fighting ones. Your FF7 talks are an addiction to me cause I love that game so much

[@fattmusiek5452]

Me as well! Pinnacle interweb content for sure

[@OfLaSoul]

It confirms nothing...

[@GuakH03]

He’s always been talking about ff…

[@levitastic]

Max is pretty much the only one that where u can FEEL the excitement with him, it can be quite magical.

[@TypicallyUniqueOfficial]

Did people not do all the side content? Chadley is a real boy lol. His body was being experimented on in a lab, you get this cutscene by doing the side quests on Mt. Nibel region. I think we’re going to get to save him in the last game.

[@omgwtfbbqkitty]

I definitely agree they did the Aerith scene at the end only through Cloud's perspective which is the player perspective at that moment very intentionally. I'm very excited to see how/where the true perspective (what everyone else saw) is implemented. Don't worry Max, you weren't the only one who thought creepy Aerith was a giant red flag. It was the first thought that went through my head after the credits rolled.

[@andrewcastro4450]

Im calling it right now….We are going to get evil cloud and Jenova/Aerith psycho team up when he splits from party. I also agree that was not her. Cloud looked like he was in a trance THE ENTIRE time he talked to her in that last scene. The smallest facial expressions matters.

[@jonlocke7112]

The scene where Cloud and Tifa get dropped into the life stream is going to reveal all. It feels like everything happening from Remake and Rebirth is leading up to that.

[@dkolendo]

for sure. that was the clinax of FF7 og. everything after Cloud coming back, the north cave etc is just resolution.

[@ocean_0602]

Agreed, it’s most definitely not a multiverse. It’s an expanded depiction of the lifestream.

[@thezx5795]

I need this explained

[@adamtheriault6743]

​@@thezx5795all the "alternate universes" we've seen take place within the lifestream itself, not as their own seperate universes/dimensions/realities/etc like you see in other media, marvel as an example

[@ThisIsRune]

What’s the difference? It’s clear that there’s multiple worlds/timelines/universes. Whether this is due to the livestream, is just the backstory or explanation for the concept.

[@Xelpherpolis]

@@thezx5795 Did you play Final Fantasy X? If so, these other words are basically multiple “Dream Zanarkands”, but they’re all inside the life stream; the echo of peoples lives, memories, dreams and unfulfilled desires given shape and becoming sentient.

[@ett375]

Whatever it is, to me in the end of the day these multiple worlds merging is for sephiroth to suck it and turn into a god.

[@heartstriker2831]

I hear ff7 and max....I dash myself in to the direction of said sequence

[@fattmusiek5452]

Big same

[@outrightflame4280]

Same here I love FF7

[@Mewsashi-cz9fo]

Listen... they didn't even make an ff7 remake, it's not, it's not even an rpg when all your choices, materias, gear, experience acquired, when all of it is reset at every new part of the remake, this is a walking simulator moviegame of a supposed fanfiction of FF7.

[@tetchycrane3648]

Same

[@yokotarosimp]

same here

[@SirMufalmar]

They definitely left out the burial scene because it's from Cloud's perspective and he's blocked it out from his memory

[@Rexaura888]

In Cloud’s mind, there’s no body to bury. Aerith’s alive. Why would they need to make a grave for her

[@phrofile3613]

Exactly. The main theme of this game is accepting lost. Which cloud is in denial

[@Dis2good]

Yup. That’s what makes this game so great. Amazing way to tell a story.

[@vincentgraymore]

@@Rexaura888 Yea, and also, will we see a robotic Cloud going through the motions of burring Aerith while thinking of the next step instead? He also "blocked" Sephiroths attack by sidestepping away so that he could see Aerith die behind him, was he really just dancing around the stage while Sephiroth being like "WTF are you doing Cloud, anyway I am just gonna stab Aerith". Or was everything simply just not like this at all? Cloud super emotional and then just "yep let's go". Didn't he say "I got this" and not have a limit break during Jenova fight? One brilliant part of the Nibelhiem flashback is that it is correct, except for Cloud thinking he is Zack. It is not just a lot of random other actions that never happened. Aeriths death in Rebirth require a lot of things to be different.

[@vincentgraymore]

@@phrofile3613 The main theme about Remake was defying destiny. The main theme of remake is that defying destiny does not change the outcome. All other themes are subthemes.

[@darbs1832]

I never played ff7 OG and Max's enthusiasm for Rebirth got me to try FF7 Remake and I was hooked instantly. Rebirth is my favorite game of all time. I 100% cried my eyes out at the end of the game (for multiple reasons) and my thoughts were that even though there were confusing elements to the it, I have full faith in the devs to pull off their vision.

[@Nico-nc5qb]

I mean, it's pretty obvious that they don't show the scene of Cloud getting Aerith's body under water and the fact that he is seeing her around, his mind broken, so that when Tifa saves him it will have more context. It's also why the Tifa scene happened, so now she knows how to traverse the Lifestream so it makes perfect sense that she could help Cloud see the truth, come to terms with who he is and what happened and wake up. They'll show Cloud being Zack and him failing to save Aerith. So it changes the road, but the outcome is the same as the OG, wich it makes the narrative make more sense.

[@RamzalTimble]

Cloud is going to snap at the northern crater. Jenova is going to drop the illusion and Cloud is going to just give up and hand it over like the OG.

[@flimermithrandir]

Aerith will appear as well and tell him its fine.

[@manwiththemachinegun]

I could care less about fighting games. Max is who I go to for FF7R news.

[@videoinsomnia]

couldn't*

[@TheSpectacledOwl]

“I could care less” So…you could actually care less? Or did you mean “I couldn’t care less”?

[@gektoast4968]

@@TheSpectacledOwlit always means “couldn’t care less” it’s just that that’s how some people hear and repeat it

[@huzidamasta]

​@gektoast4968 yeh but that's obviously a problem haha

[@huzidamasta]

So in other words, you care to some degree

[@Christian_Kim]

Time for more FF7R news with Max!

[@LordAzrael707]

I think OGs are confused because Square is giving us what we want, but not in the way we're expecting it. And some people are upset that their expectations aren't being met. But I am definitely here for what they're cooking.

[@The_Phoenix_Saga]

Convolution of a story plot and splitting what was once one game into three whilst utterly milking the fanbase, isn't what I'd ascribe as to "giving us what we want"

[@liquidsnake23]

I was a little upset with remake ending but rebirth gave me hope without looking up anything else since it seems I’m close to being right. If they pull this off with what I believe, this would be amazing.

[@Aliens1337]

Also the fact that FF is not the powerhouse it used to be. Sad pill to swallow Im sure. But just think about 15 or 20 years ago, when you say RPG, people say Final Fantasy. FF used to be THE genre defining series. Each FF release used to be an event. Nowadays there are way too many great RPG franchises to compete with. Consumers have more choices. FF isn’t the king of RPGs like it once was.

[@docbenway1082]

​@The_Phoenix_Saga Why do you keep watching videos about FF7 remake if it upsets you so much? I've seen literally dozens of comments from you on FF7R videos across multiple channels spanning over a year. Spending so much time on something you hate really isn't healthy - have you considered therapy?

[@lopezzelo2502]

This is not what I wanted…

[@nicholasg.5441]

Sephiroth: in your anger, you killed her. Cloud: NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@grapes9h5]

Max + VII equals drop all else at once

[@PleasantlyLee]

An IRL of Queen's Blood will be difficult. Cloud always plays on the left and goes right. The cards will need to be double sided for IRL player 2 to be able to place them on the board in the opposite direction, but theres also a top middle and bottom lane, and cards have asymetrical tile. It would be very difficult to impliment.

[@sibby_547]

If both players play from the camera's position, and not where the characters sit while playing, then there is no problem. Just get rid of the castle on the game board so both players can sit across from each other, then you are always playing from the left no matter which side of the board you sit on.

[@Hollowed2wiz]

I agree. I think the game would be better as a mobile and/or pc game.

[@brayenmorrison3199]

More Interview Notes.

[@andimari9194]

The third game will be called “final fantasy 7: Return”

[@HealRD]

I think it has to be "Returns" as well, as of the reference to FFXIII's 3rd installment, "Lightning Returns," which are made by the same crew as FFVIIR.

[@andimari9194]

@@HealRD also, you go back to the state of play when ff7 was shown after like 3 years, the word “returns” stays on the screen for a long time… check it out

[@ultrainstinctgenesis93]

It’s gonna be called Return period point blank. Reunite was my first option but I strongly think Return is final title for part 3

[@fourstarbrazil]

No, its going to be called FF7: Redux

[@andimari9194]

@@fourstarbrazil ff7: ReRemake

[@buttersleopaldstoch5793]

Things are starting to click in my head now. Cloud is going to believe he's giving the white materia to arith in the northern crater but it's actually going to be the black materia and he's going to hand it to Seth Roth.

[@dkolendo]

oh thats a GOOD prediction

[@eji]

yeah Dyne's death was melodramatic and corny in Rebirth, honestly... the OG was surprisingly darker and more somber because he literally kills himself to absolute silence

[@rafaynoman1180]

Yeah they mostly did that for the Chinese audience because in China you cant show suicide in most media. So they had to show him getting gunned down instead and if you think that doesn't make sense remember they banned Winnie the pooh for equally ridiculous reasons.

[@DotorInsanity]

I just realize that Tifa and Cloud are going to have to fight Jenova-Aerith in his awaking scene to be free of HER influence. It will probably end with Omni-Aerith showing up after to help Cloud fill up the Clear Materia.

[@videoinsomnia]

It's funny to think there's someone out there who seen the Stamp in Junon and it led them down some long, rabbit hole tangent of a theory only for Square to be like "oh, mistake. fixed." lol

[@zeikjt]

7:19 I do like Rebirth's updated parts with Scarlet and the town and such, but the last Dyne scenes are certainly too over the top haha

[@NuRm69]

I've gone through so many theories, and none of them last. I think Max is onto something with the "Ghost Aerith is Jenova" angle. Also, I think Sephiroth's lost necklace of his mother (Lucrecia, but he thinks the name is Jenova) plays a role in part 3. just a theory

[@docplays6508]

There is definitely going to be more plot lines from Ever Crisis that are at least shown off in some way in Part 3

[@phrofile3613]

I hope vincent and sephiroth gets a good screentime with the lucrecia plot

[@akira_kei_]

Aerith = Jenova world be a very predictable and lazy way to go, and not worth the buildup, but it might be what they end up doing. They already had Sephiroth directly say that Jenova can impersonate people.

[@fendelphi]

Sephiroth/Jenova manipulates emotions like fear and hatred. Guilt and regret would fit in.

[@darthvaderreviews6926]

I think whatever the case, the "phantom aerith" we see in the final cutscene is an impostor of some kind. Her dialogue asking Cloud to "promise" to stop Sephiroth when the original song written by her in universe for Rebirth is literally called "No Promises To Keep" is incredibly suspicious. "Phantom Aerith" in generally behaves like Cloud would "expect", but not in a way truly consistent with the Aerith we actually knew across the duration of the game

[@Blag_Cog]

I categorically disagree that FF exclusivity has been negative. In fact, its been positive in all ways that are meaningful. The games have been decidedly higher quality since exclusivity spun the block. The sales come from the FF brand faultering ever since multiplatform was introduced with the Xbox 360. FF13, FF15 were massive disappointments. Even FF14 was on PC simultaneously and the vanilla version was god awful. thats 3 massive FF games in a row that negatively impacted the FF audience. Now they have to rebuild that. And FF7 Remake project has been the only FF game that truly equated in something special. Guess what. That was heavily funded and supported by Sony. The project absolutely needed someone like Sony's support.

[@hpesojogladih9782]

Just my opinion but I don't think it's a multiverse in the traditional sense. They are more like "memories" of potential pasts/futures spinning out from the lifestream. The universes are really just a representation of how all encompassing and connected the lifestream is to everything on the planet. The lifestream contains the past/future and even the potential past/future of everyone, even those that returned to it 👍🏻.

[@Erikthedood]

It’s not a multiverse in any sense. It’s more like the “collective unconscious,” concept from jungian psychology. But the average layperson doesn’t know anything about Carl Jung or Jungian psychology so they think it’s “multiverse,” because that’s the closest concept they have to understanding what it is. Play the persona games and the idea of “meta verse, dark hour, tv world,” etc. is very similar. The “collective unconscious,”of all people.

[@zekiel2533]

@@hpesojogladih9782 these worlds are all real and connected to the life stream. The events happening with cloud interacting with worlds is real. Because at the end of rebirth cloud disappears from the party to fight sephiroth with Zack and the party asks where is cloud? And cloud hurt sephiroth reborn in the battle from a different space. I'm expecting Zack to show up with the party in part 3. Literally since Zack ends up at a church but we don't know which world yet.

[@zerosolis6664]

​@@zekiel2533The worlds are not real. Its spiritual. Sure we "yoinked out a white materia", but ask yourself what materia is again? Crystallized Lifestream memories. Its literally the planet's essence. You can't just take that from a whole nother actual world/timeline lol. Go look at the Cosmo Canyon dialogue again as well, its all spirituality and psychological concepts, its not time travel or timeline shenanigans.

[@zerosolis6664]

Erikthedood is correct. FFVII was always already super close to Jungian concepts, but Nojima really drove it home this time.

[@phrofile3613]

Yes. Its not just the past/future. But also hope and dreams. Essentially, potential futures

[@greghaggerty9996]

Whether it's a multiverse or not, it kinda feels like the same thing either way. Multiple worlds based on alternate choices. Even if it's not technically a multiverse it might as well be one in practice.

[@dkolendo]

but it's not alternate or multiple worlds. it's life and the lifestream, which is like saying mortal life and heaven, or something like that. the stuff you see happen with zack is like his ghost not realizing he is dead and navigating the afterlife, or cloud remembering him in his own broken consciousness. aerith can kind of communicate with the lifestream since she is 1/2 cetra, and sephiroth is in it trying to control it, but it's always one world, with deliberately vague or red herring storytelling to keep players thinking its different worlds. then again i can't be sure till part 3 comes out, i know.

[@Dis2good]

@@dkolendothat actually makes the most sense to me. So the different stamps are unique to each “timeline” because the ghost has not realized he’s dead? And Aerith is a ghost that can communicate between heaven and reality? But then that makes Septhrioth what? A ghost that cannot accept his death and wants to return to the living world?

[@greghaggerty9996]

@@dkolendo I get what you're saying. But in practice, what we see is a bunch of alternate "what if" style outcomes of various character choices. And they are referred to as "worlds" by Sephiroth. So even though it isn't an actual multiverse, it serves an extremely similar storytelling function.

[@darthvaderreviews6926]

@@dkolendo Nah I don't agree with this assessment, I don't see any evidence Zack is actually dead and it's just his adventures in the Lifestream. It's different from multiverse rules as many would understand it, _(eg. instead of every choice making a world, it's only choices that "break the boundaries of fate". the two worlds Cloud has potentially created involved him and the party breaking literal boundaries created by the guardians of fate. Zack is an exception because him being alive at all is a breach of fate)_ but fundamentally it's a similar enough concept. It's multiple worlds because IMO it's intended to be an in universe explanation for how Remake is even happening. People initially assumed Sephiroth was time travelling via the Lifestream or something, but no, the original FF7 world still exists and played out as normal, Remake is just its own world. Re. Aerith being able to communicate with it, it's not that simple. There's only one lifestream, so when people return to the lifestream & their memories with it, all world versions of them can be treated as merged. This isn't a unique thing to Aerith, _(eg. she draws out the same memories in Red XIII, though he only recognised it as "seeing the future" and didn't realize they were legitimate memories)_ but Aerith's connection with the lifestream makes it a lot more useful for her.

[@Lancerris]

There is just no way last night I finally finish the 4 hour long video about ff7 ending opinions lore and speculation and this drops today, can't be a better world

[@saterdei]

I can't wait for Mideel, man. That lifestream earthquake is gonna take us for a ride...

[@Nigel222]

Im curious if part 3 will start you off with all the summons you could get in Rebirth or if they will just make us collect new ones or something. Stuff like Gilgamesh and whatnot.

[@MelRetro]

*I have the FFVII Intergrade on PS5. I can't wait for the release of all the DLC for Rebirth*

[@krismunroe9849]

There won't be dlc for Rebirth. They're working directly on part 3

[@SRFAA]

​@@krismunroe9849Yeah, was sure they said no DLC this time.

[@AstalThe9]

16:38 I got the one scene I've wanted out of this trilogy, where Cloud does SOMETHING to try and stop Sephy Poo from shish-kabobbing Aerith. Didnt really work out in the end but my boy smacked Sephiroth so hard he disarmed him. They can literally turn everyone into moogles at the very end of the next game, I got what I wanted.

[@dkolendo]

so THAT's the satisfying happy endung the devs were alluding to. haha, just kidding

[@dobbear]

Well, yeah, it's gonna be spooky Aerith that will tell Cloud to give Sephiroth the Black Materia.

[@CarlosXPhone]

I am at the final boss battle with Sephiroth.

[@Dis2good]

I’m waiting Cloud……

[@leedunkin3338]

What is the feasibility of the final installment combining the first two maps to create a comprehensive open world of Gaia?

[@SRFAA]

Pretty sure that'd be their goal considering how much they've already covered in both.

[@Dis2good]

It’s a requirement. Otherwise, they will disappoint every FF7 fan.

[@strawderryst6919]

I really think that Aerith in the end is a link between her and ACC Aerith and Zack and Cloud's ability to see them when others can't. Because none of this is explained in the film itself. I think in the end, given that he started seeing the sky from another world, he was "stuck" between worlds, so he can see her.

[@zekiel2533]

The troll in the beginning. The anime is great btw

[@xtheeliminator4967]

My bet for Chadley Chadley has a desire for knowledge. Hojo will corrupt him and his desire will become insatiable. Deciding that the world is too small and remembering his encounter with gilgamesh he decides he needs to go beyond. He inhabits a machine that was a left over or prototype from the shinra weapons or space program. Chadley will be a boss fight. Omega.

[@Akrymir]

As early as Chapter 2 of FF7R part 1 it was made clear it was a sequel. At that point in the story Cloud is completely inconsequential to Sephiroth, but the discussion between the two in the fire made it very clear that the only way this conversation could be happening is if was Sephiroth from the future.

[@Dinosberg]

He doesn't need to be from the future though. The Lifestream contains all the planets knowledge past and future. He could have learned everything he needed when Cloud chucked him into it.

[@Akrymir]

@@Dinosberg It doesn't know what the future will be. That's basically saying everything is set in stone and there is no choice. Sephiroth native to that world couldn't have known what Cloud would do, other wise OG Sephiroth would have dealt with Cloud far earlier... probably before the start of the game.

[@gimmeonion]

not the noob saibot kombat kast, I'm so anxious about it

[@matthewloveridge5469]

The interview being read through was conducted by Lynzee Loveridge of Anime News Network, though James Beckett helped write the questions.

[@alexm8d13]

I love how people tend to forget that the big Spoiler for part 3 is already out there, in your game and it's “Loveless” and “No Promises To Keep”, they literally tell you more or less how this story is going to end.

[@renren47618]

Loveness or Loveless? And if it is Loveless, are you talking about the Rebirth one or Genesis' poem?

[@alexm8d13]

@@renren47618 Sorry loveless I meant to say and I was referring to the one from Rebirth.

[@timogul]

I still expected Rebirth and beyond to be way different than the original, because I saw the ending of Remake as being the breakpoint between continuities. I expected it would hit the same locations, but for the actual story to differ more than it was.

[@Alcogod]

I think they realised their mistake with altering the story after REMAKE and took a step back for most of the game.

[@m0002856]

I definitely think that scene of Aerith after her death was like… she was just off. Not in a Jenova way, but in a, “something isn’t quite right here” kind of way. So, in my mind, this interview confirms that we’re experiencing this situation from Cloud’s perspective where we’re basically refusing to accept that she’s gone. We won’t accept that she’s gone. At the same time, I am split on how I think the last cutscene is supposed to be portrayed. Part of me is thinking it’s in Cloud’s mind as an excuse as to why she’s not there with him anymore, but im also wondering if she was there in the Lifestream actually giving Cloud one last goodbye. I think her appearing next to Cloud in the Capital was in his mind, but this second one im not 100% sure on. Like Red XIII sounded like he felt Aerith’s presence there, and it would definitely make sense that she would want to say goodbye to them all after her passing. But as to why she would basically trick Cloud into believing she’s not dead, I don’t really know. Waiting for part three for sure.

[@D-OveRMinD]

I find it hilarious that nobody understands the fact that Sony went to square enix and handed them a super large suitcase full of cash for exclusivity. And they continue to do so for every extra release. It doesn't matter how much this game technically sells due to exclusivity. They already made their money back on the money that Sony handed them at the outset.

[@dimasta9385]

Yep, hilarious how people don’t get that without Sony’s money there would be no remake trilogy whatsoever. At least in this size and scope. Also both games wouldn’t be much bigger if they were multiplat. They would have sell more but not much bigger like Max copes. Also we would have wait for it much longer too because of porting and optimisation. Problem of FF series is not in exclusivity but convoluted and messy numbering and overall lack of appeal and popularity. Cannot wait for a moment when series go multi and still sells like ass

[@AnjektusStudio]

Well! The problem whit that sratment os that Squiere themselves have told that the game did not made the number that they expected.

[@flimermithrandir]

Well maybe. You say that but we actually dont know how much Money that Exclusivity actually is. Could be 10 Mio. 100 Mio… we dont know. Its hard to imagine its 100 Mio. though… It could also be 1 Mio. We just have no Clue. I think its more like 20 maybe.

[@flimermithrandir]

@@dimasta9385I do agree here that it would not sell double as many Copies though. Yeah. There is some Sort of Anti SE or Anti FF going on. Almost like Racism or maybe its because its an „Anime“ that highly turns of Ppl. I dont know the Answer to that. But it feels like SE can literally make the best Game ever and it just will never outsell Palworld or Wukong. Or whatever big Game out there. Well… maybe there is a Chance for a big Market still. Switch 2 could be an Idea. I have no Doubt Remake and Rebirth can run on that Machine decently enough with some Drawbacks.

[@Kaempfdog]

The more I think about FF7R&R, the more I think there is a high chance of multiple endings. And if there is a path to something as big as say, saving Aerith, that would have to require a much darker path to be taken 1st to earn something like that.

[@LegendaryGooseling]

Like the Nier games

[@renren47618]

Actually i would love this.

[@krismunroe9849]

Getting the platinum trophy for Rebirth was dark enough!

[@jairekambui7738]

@@LegendaryGooselingNier games have only one true ending, E.

[@jt-xz6tr]

y’all still getting ur hopes up on this??

[@Seedmember]

"We want to give players more freedom" "We want to revitalise Final Fantasy" Possible player chosen multiple endings coming in part 3? Unless of course they just want to keep baiting the old players that maybe we get to save Aerith, but in end nothing changes.

[@yokotarosimp]

i have a feeling part 3 will have a lot of butterfly effect moments in the dialogue, since now they're fully diving into the whole worlds concept, we're gonna get the rainbow effect every time we do something that affects the story, and that's how they expand player control over the story

[@KillerKahn]

Max saying that Aerith at the end is a manipulation of Sephiroth makes me feel so validated. Been saying that since I saw that ending.

[@Sir.Endipity]

Cloud possessed by Sephiroth killed Aerith.

[@JustinGreene0224]

I didn't play the original, so I landed somewhere in the middle. Not know Aerith dies is like finding someone that doesn't know Darth Vader is Luke's father, or the ending of Planet of the Apes. It's damn near impossible to not know it's going to happen going in. But I still love what they're doing. I'm enjoying the more subtle story beats I'm getting. That said, I just wish the part on Rufus secretly running Avalanche hadn't been spoiled. THAT would have been my major reveal of Part 3.

[@ty4ler416]

That’s actually wild they caught wind of the chadley rumour …. I really hope they pull a 180 and actually make him into a boss … like imagine him the last trial of the brutal challenges and he turns into an adult (probably looks alot like Weiss so they could use his model and change the hair ) that would be so sick

[@TillyLogan-yd7kt]

WILL WE GET KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE? NEO BAHAMUT? RUBY ROSE? GOLD CHOCOBOS ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE? UNDERWATER EXPLORATION? EXPAND IT IF SO? WILL WE BE ABLE TO REVISIT EVERYWHERE WE,VE ALREADY BEEN? WILL THE WEAPONS AND MATERIAS HAVE EVEN BETTER CRAZIER CUSTOMAZATIONS AND COMBONATIONS?

[@AruLily]

Like i told my bf that said oh no another shite multiverse and i said, as the philosopher here, this didn't feel like a multiverse. When i read the interview i thought ''so you put slices of peoples assumptions as possibilities that may or may not have happened into a white space with windows in it, like something to watch as you fly by, a sort of nier automata ending kind of thing, a sort of touch of the players essence? So it's just what we thought moments, but they wont actually touch the story, i'd say. Yeah, the moment we were supposed to put Aerith in the water, it cut, it felt like i got stabbed in the feels, so yeah, i felt like, that was a very popular scene and there is no way, they wont replay that scene again in the 3rd part and let us and cloud see, what really happened, because he will need to face it, it might even happen at that scene where Tifa helps him fix his mind.

[@ViewportPlaythrough]

as for the timeline thing, again, because 90s anime and 90s jrpg uses "multiverses" and "timelines" differently than how western media, specifically the mcu, handles it. just watch anime from those era and you would understand it. if you know chrono series and xenogears then youre pretty much set for it. then theres the girl who leapt through time, steins;gate, haruhi suzumiya. even the more recent ones such as link click, summertime rendering, tokyo revengers, mirai nikki. even 16 sentinels is closer to it than mcu. even kh series is closer. if you think of 7R project like that, then its closer to those.

[@SomnusShinra]

At last the man himself confirmed that this is not a Multiverse story and it's more FF7 than the original FF7. This is truly a work of love and passion in every detail.

[@The_Phoenix_Saga]

Course it isn't, right. 🙄

[@salty_lake]

To me its just more fluff and minigames than the original, not more ff7

[@flameroad123]

Everyone dtop what your doing!!! It's ff7 Max time!!!

[@spoogtastic]

So i have played and finished ff7 remake and rebirth and my 12 year old son has as well. When he was playing through and the 1st time they showed thr different stamp dog, he immediately caught it. "Wait, thats a different dog" i was so proud lol stamp was a perfect device to subtly show this isnt the same place we know. God i love these games.

[@Tangozzz]

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[@xyrots]

"what'd you think of gears and gambits?" "I'd rather eat my fucking hand than play it again" LMAO

[@PaulJohnson-zv3hl]

FF7 is very much doing multiverse stuff…. It’s just the “Copenhagen” theory. Long story short “Many Worlds” is the big thing in films atm where there’s a full multiverse…. The Copenhagen theory says these other “worlds” exist but briefly until only one version exists. Sephiroth is saying the multiverse is “Copenhagen” but the very big plot line of Gilgamesh (that runs the entire game and EVERYONE ignores) says it’s “Many Worlds”. Who knows what the writers have planned but what we do know is: -Dreams/ being unconscious can allow powerful characters to travel between realities into the bodies of their alternate selves. - matter can travel between worlds like Zack and the white materia. - new Worlds can be created by characters that are powerful enough like Gilgamesh and fort condor - time travel is possible such as Sephiroth and the whispers. To not follow up on the ideas of quantum mechanics and the mythological poems of Gilgamesh and have it as a red herring would be such a bummer.

[@Goldenking1216]

I think with the high wind while you flying around the party will be on the bottom deck and you’ll run into monsters while flying and then fight them on the bottom deck

[@maverikotonashi]

As Tyler Durden is to the narrator of fight club, so is Sephiroth to Cloud in FF7

[@WhiteHawk77]

Multiverse by another name.

[@Realmreaver1]

Theory: when Cloud becomes 'whole' come to find out it's not sephiroth at all in Genesis messing everything up and created that future sephiroth.

[@zueszues9715]

Looks good on paper But Change main bad guy it not a good ideal Sephiroth has a lot of fan ! And they will hunt the dev down if they do not holding sephiroth to higher reguard possiblely can in the end of part 3

[@davidorioli3870]

Ram Ranch Really Rocks

[@Nekomania]

18 cowboys

[@waka1834]

The chadley theory is so funny cause it reminds me of kirby and how a butterfly ate the strongest warrior in the galaxy to make morphoknight lmfao

[@Rikukey]

Wonder if rebirth pc version will be announced at the Game Awards

[@holitinne]

I think the console exclusivity helped the devs to bring the game out faster. So it wasnt all doom and gloom.

[@bruhm0ment6000]

Yeah but that's why it only has 2 million copies sold, FF16 sold more than that.

[@holitinne]

@@bruhm0ment6000 1. 2 million is good considering FFVIIR sold 3 million in its first year and it’s PS4 install base is *DOUBLE* of that of the PS5. 2. FFXVI is a complete package. FFVIIRB is part 2 of 3 installments. While ironically Rebirth has 5x the content of XVI, most people will see RB as a portion of package. 3. Poor marketing, because of SE’s brutal take down on people streaming FFVIIRB it did not get the exposure it deserved.

[@holitinne]

@@bruhm0ment6000 2 million’s not bad considering the last one sold 3 million on its first year with double the install base.

[@bruhm0ment6000]

@@holitinne Don't lie to yourself, Final fantasy 7 is a top 2 game tied with Ocarina of time, this game has an iconic legacy that deserves more love. For starters Hogwarts legacy has 24 million sales, Baldurs gate 3 has 10 million sales, Zelda Botw 30 million, Zelda Totk 20 million, Elden Ring and Cyberpunk have 25 million, Helldivers 2 has 12 million sales. Even niche genres like fighting games have more sales than Rebirth. Street fighter has 4 million, Tekken 4 million, Mortal Kombat 1 has 4 million, Guilty gear strive have 3 million. I'm no expert but I dare say Action, RPG and JRPG genre of games are more popular than fighting games. Console exclusivity is not the way ****A N Y M O R E****. Unless you're Nintendo because Nintendo is just so ahead in the Console wars right now. I understand when SE said they were not meeting expectations because if Remake had 7 million sales, the only natural progression is to reach 10 million sales, not 5 million lesser than Remake. It's such a disappointment but I hope Rebirth wins GOTY and increase their sales. Easily 20 million copies if they had better marketing, better word of mouth, and day 1 PC launch because for games that have 10-20 million sales on average are all on PC.

[@holitinne]

@@bruhm0ment6000 this isn’t about FFVII Rebirth is it? You seem to be angry at something else.

[@clojap]

Xbox sales would have been negligible. The last mainline FF game that launched day and date over 5 times as many copies sold on playstation

[@HKVDay]

Is Max’s interpretation that spooky Aerith is a Jenova manipulation really controversial?? I thought it was obvious.

[@EthNet34756]

Date a Live is crazy you should watch it

[@GahloWake]

Without timed exclusivity, Rebirth isn't even out yet.

[@Linkinitup1]

Talks about Midgardsormr fight while showing the Terror of the Deep fight lol

[@AnEyeRacky]

It takes two to tango. Square is as much to blame for exclusives as anyone. Who knows there could have been some back door deal like Sony had to take Forspoken as part of the deal lol

[@Sirin2099]

Max and FF7 is when I drop everything and watch.

[@ToniCiprianiX007]

Jugg Glitch Is Back!!!

[@theshadowhunter9278]

The Sopranos meets Final Fantasy VII

[@TRNFloyd]

I liked the Dyne scene, but I wasn't to big on the difference between OG and Rebirth. OG Dyne gave up on life, ending it by jumping off a cliff as he felt he had no way to come back from what he had done. Rebirth Dyne was very close to the same as OG, but ended up using his life to save Barret from a Shinra attack. In my opinion, Shinra being there during that felt very off. It might of made sense, but that scene was a big part of Barret's story, and them being there to basically finish the job of killing Dyne and Barret seemed.. Idk cheap? OG's scene felt more powerful/impactful because he did it more for himself than anything. Dyne was done, and nothing Barret, or anyone, could do or say would change that. Rebirth forced Dyne to save Barret - which up to this point feels off and out of character. Why would someone who's this messed up in the head, save someone who - to him - stole his child from his life and started raising them as their own? Because "former friendship" feels weird to me as an excuse, personally. Then again, perhaps a moment of clarity struck. Maybe he knew he wasn't gonna last much longer, and decided that Barret was the best chance at a good life for Marlene. Idk. I think this is where people are feeling the "it was just okay" from though.

[@joanmcardle7137]

Mini game with submarine

[@dreamer6737]

So do you think we will see what actually happened when Aerith got killed in the next game? The scene in the water that was missing etc?

[@bachelorsensei9437]

I am still wondering whether we will see the Sane Sephiroth (shown in Ever Crisis)in Part III and since they did introduce Sephiroth as a playable character just because of one scene, I am completely bought on the idea that Sephiroth will join our party and fight alongside us. (Or maybe they will go DMC style Vergil with him)

[@raven-19x]

Just because the devs intended for the ending to be the way it is doesn't mean I have to like it.

[@mariovssonic184]

Max's Spooky Aerith take is not controversial because he thinks that's gonna happen its controversial cause he thinks its happening at the end of Rebirth, I have no doubt in my mind Sephiroth and Jenova will do what he is saying and use Aerith to mind fuck Cloud more its just not happening at the end of Rebirth.

[@jorgelugo9473]

Mets lead the Braves for the 3rd Wild Card spot in the National League

[@natblack2522]

I think the problems with the ending (speaking for myself here) boil down to a cheep paint by numbers anime story. The original story is pretty timeless and unique. The new stuff comes off like, "ok, what do anime nerds wanna see?"

[@unnamedlegeon]

What about the Lucretia issue where is she still be alive or dead will still be unsolve?, or the underground org. will be totally ignored and or even the DOC will be in a multiverse?. So much questions will need to be answered in the 3rd installment 🤔.

[@vantasethatsit9903]

I always think why did humanity have to extinct in a mere hundreds of years, why did the planet do it, the conclusion i get after Rebirth is Jenova, what if in the OG, Jenova survive and slip back into humanity, the planet noticed this and goes nuclear on humanity, the planet almost died twice because of her they didn't want to take anymore chance. The Title Rebirth might rever to Jenova instead, that's why she push Cloud to fight Sephiroth, ironically Sephiroth is the only thing prevent her to complete revival. (I like crazy stories you see)

[@G37Samer]

We need to find a way to get Max to interview the developers. Make it happen internet!

[@Dis2good]

They know Max and won’t answer a single question he has 😂😂

[@Zoemakesvideo]

The focus gameplay-wise, and story-wise by the developers in this interview on 'freedom' and 'player choice' just compounds the main issue of this game which WILL be its downfall in the final installment. The issue of the devs being to intimidated or too otherwise unable to express themselves or otherwise take risks within the framework of the remake. It seems like time and again, whenever these FF7 remake games are setting up something the answer comes back down to 'well the interpretation is up to the player'. Which feels incredibly unsatisfying to me. I don't want to decide what the remake looks like for me, I want devs with a clear vision of what they want to do with it. Even if I don't like that direction at the end of the day a total flop would feel less manipulative and soulless than what we got at the end of part two.

[@paxvesania2008]

PlayStation exclusivity might now be a thing for part 3. Sony literally burned 400 million for 8 days shelf life that was Concord and that 400 million does not include the cost of acquiring Firewalk studio.

[@Erikthedood]

Console exclusivity was locked in all the way back when the project was first announced in 2015. They’re not gonna be allowed to get out of it until a year or so after part 3 is out and the exclusivity contract ends.

[@chatek6845]

If you really think Concord was 400Mil you really have no clue

[@paxvesania2008]

@@chatek6845 Lol little guy, a former journalist had been contacted by Firewalk studio employee and deliver this info. Dude got more credibility than any current gaming journalist. Also if the 400 million cost is "have no clue" then what is yours? As if YOU have a clue lil bro?

[@chatek6845]

@@paxvesania2008 So youre telling me, this game cost more then every sony first party Single player game like Spiderman 2, Horizon etc, yeah i dont belive that sry

[@paxvesania2008]

@@chatek6845 8 years of AAA level game development cycle can do that. Also when Sony acquired Firewalk studio, they outsourced part of the work which increase the cost even more. Outsourcing is hella more expensive than in-house work. So yeah it can.

[@AmazingFrenchman]

The biggest meta I've ever experience is MGSV The Phantom Pain lacking episode 51 and then they show us what it was supposed to be in video form. Giving us ultimate Phantom Pain. WTF right after I type this shit Max goes V has come to! hahaha!

[@AMTRAX]

I hadn’t even considered the possibility that maybe Cloud killed Aerith in Rebirth. That’s a fascinating theory. I guess we’ll all find out one way or the other, but that’s one I’m really gonna be thinking about a lot now.

[@Sif3r]

Talkling about the Midgarsomr fight and then showing scenes from bottomswell. KZbin editor, you're a very naughty boy!

[@Dis2good]

I know. I was like…. 🤔 🧐 🤨

[@speezbortzappfing3r224]

The last game had better not be locked out of the PS5

[@tiffyw92]

14:35 "You don't fight Vincent in FF7." Tell that to my 7-yo self who would attack Vincent in Galian Beast mode because he wouldn't stop using Beast Flare on a DRAGON. Ffs Vince. Like sure, you can say I was dumb to summon Galian Beast on a dragon but he was a new character, his Limit was up and I needed to grind his kill count. Also I was 7.

[@jameshunter6289]

Always enjoy these uploads. Shame i completely forget about the triology between games, the wait seems like forever

[@Two_Five08]

Quick question: who actually thinks differently in terms of what spooky Aerith is? Like what Max says makes perfect sense to me so I'm not too sure what else is being said regarding the ending

[@nacholpm5471]

21:30 Yo... what if Cloud actually DID kill Aerith? They don't show anything else, other than the weird static switch, and there's suddenly a pool of blood. Seph's sword was stuck in the ground at that moment too.

[@huzidamasta]

Yeh and then Sephiroth picks his sword up and flicks blood in Cloud's face, so I can only assume it was Sephiroth's sword that killed her. Why would it be in the ground though? It's still not clear. The sword ends up in the ground because Cloud disables it from Sephiroth's hands, so why would it be in the ground in the "version" that doesn't happen? I thought I had an argument to your comment but as usual with FF7R, I'm now more confused lol

[@fedora1776]

21:35 yooo if that’s what they use to mess with cloud making him think he killed aerith will be messed up but so chilling. If he’d actually killed her that’s a crazy twist right there

[@nacholpm5471]

That would be fkn crazy if they actually commit to that. I would forgive wasting Aerith's death if they actually do that.

[@silverendlessness4052]

It would be a great twist, but logically it doesn’t make sense because Cloud saw Sephiroth’s sword and how she got impaled with it, which is impossible with the buster sword. That shit is way too wide lmao

[@nacholpm5471]

@@silverendlessness4052 It would be a massive change as well, but it would end up being so unbelievably evil for Sephiroth, manipulating Cloud into killing Aerith, that I would actually be okay with it.

[@silverendlessness4052]

@@nacholpm5471 actually me too, it would definitely break Cloud even more to make him believe that he killed her. Although I think that, based on the ending, the story is going to take the path of “Cloud thinks Aerith is alive and will act even more crazy”.