This EPIC Sacrifice Broke Stockfish...

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GothamChess

GothamChess

Күн бұрын

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@sebdoesntreply
@sebdoesntreply 3 жыл бұрын
Jokes on you, I constantly play moves that the engine doesn’t see as good
@thebest-red
@thebest-red 3 жыл бұрын
@Jignesh Gupta true engine does not know how to play chess correctly
@DrinkTeaBro
@DrinkTeaBro 3 жыл бұрын
@Jignesh Gupta na man you were just brilliant for the queen-pawn trade, engine was right about that
@potatobake2707
@potatobake2707 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrinkTeaBro he said the engine called it a blunder
@greatestclips6428
@greatestclips6428 3 жыл бұрын
@Jignesh Gupta 😂 nice trade!
@Diamidov11
@Diamidov11 3 жыл бұрын
Wellll Gotham did say to play moves that the engine doesn’t understand “for better or for worse “ …. ;)
@bobing1752
@bobing1752 3 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of impressed by MVL's defensive skills. After these alien looking sacrifices by Wesley, he played almost perfectly and found every best idea, but it was still not enough.
@greatmnn3868
@greatmnn3868 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it was double Brilliant Ideas... Commentators were saying he is gonna resign soon... But his Defence was Amazing... And obviously kudus to Weasley.. He attack at first place was Undefendable .
@stevethetrucker3140
@stevethetrucker3140 3 жыл бұрын
I agree but I don’t think the attack was that crazy.
@greatmnn3868
@greatmnn3868 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevethetrucker3140 that attack was not something that was Visible.. It was Silent Suffocating Attacking... That's why It was very beautiful for me
@philippetarnier9026
@philippetarnier9026 3 жыл бұрын
There is very few theory about chess 960 but Nf6 appears very thematic. It put black in such an awful situation....
@heeronheeron1348
@heeronheeron1348 3 жыл бұрын
That goes to show how strong the sac is.
@notnullnotvoid
@notnullnotvoid 3 жыл бұрын
I ran Stockfish 12 for a few hours unattended and it found the move somewhere between depth 41 and depth 52. That's how much it REALLY doesn't want to see this move. Absolutely crazy.
@0wnpk1
@0wnpk1 2 жыл бұрын
@MorTobXD On my computer latest Stockfish on 32 threads finds the move in 150-500 million nodes (5 to 15 seconds), lc0 with latest T78 net finds it in 300 nodes (instantly).
@thanoskyritsis7926
@thanoskyritsis7926 3 жыл бұрын
‘’There is a river nearby, you could jump in’’ *~Eric, Rosen~*
@chinteshwarbabu9165
@chinteshwarbabu9165 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@franshendrix1404
@franshendrix1404 3 жыл бұрын
Not "oh no, my knight!"?
@RFxSukhoi
@RFxSukhoi 3 жыл бұрын
I love this quote, do you have the larger context to it?
@GtmNayan
@GtmNayan 3 жыл бұрын
@@RFxSukhoi He was playing Belankaya in Sochi and they were ”trash talking” each other.
@RFxSukhoi
@RFxSukhoi 3 жыл бұрын
@@GtmNayan Thanks.
@SomeRandomDevOpsGuy
@SomeRandomDevOpsGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, GREAT showing at the tournament. Being so far rated below the others, competing with 2 IMs who are now GMs, and the grind of being a youtube/twitch entrepreneur... all that and still won 1, lost 2*, and drew the rest. I am as proud of you as a stranger could be. Seriously, those games were so fun to watch just knowing who was making the moves.
@izakjacob1763
@izakjacob1763 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more
@unnamedperson8619
@unnamedperson8619 3 жыл бұрын
Not to downplay levy's performance, but didnt he lose 2 games?
@mihailcirlig8187
@mihailcirlig8187 3 жыл бұрын
@@unnamedperson8619 yes, against the two GMs I think
@bsm1114
@bsm1114 3 жыл бұрын
@@unnamedperson8619 yeah but he never lost against a super GM (apart from Hikaru XDDDDDDD)
@kbk239
@kbk239 3 жыл бұрын
@@unnamedperson8619 Yes but the goal of the tournament was not really to perform, it was to learn, improve and then perform and become a GM.
@secretzzs3630
@secretzzs3630 3 жыл бұрын
"go play some moves the engine doesn't understand" levy hard baiting for guess the elo content
@jobinsreji9971
@jobinsreji9971 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@rabailey10
@rabailey10 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the subtle strike at Naka “Wesley is No. 2 in America behind Fabiano.” Naka is arguably now at most No. 4 in classical also behind Aronian. Naka can’t stand that lol.
@osamaounallahkhamis2077
@osamaounallahkhamis2077 3 жыл бұрын
How is that a strike lol, he just stated something factual
@whocares2277
@whocares2277 3 жыл бұрын
I play so well the engine is always confused and writes "??".
@narutoshippuden473
@narutoshippuden473 3 жыл бұрын
for better or for worse XD
@lambsaucethejedi1596
@lambsaucethejedi1596 3 жыл бұрын
When i play chess, the engine doesnt understand a single move. That bishop "sacrifice" 23 moves ago was crucial to getting a past pawn and sacrificing the past pawn for a queen promotion on the other side, winning my game against my 600 rated opponent
@chimp9465
@chimp9465 3 жыл бұрын
That bishop sacrifice was clearly a brilliant move, perhaps even rivaling bobby fischers legendary queen sacrifice.. also its pass pawn btw cuz it means ur pawn has a free pass to the end and isnt opposed by a pawn on their side
@exodusdonley77
@exodusdonley77 3 жыл бұрын
@@chimp9465 Actually, it's "past" pawn here because in the present the pawn is now a queen, aren't you paying attention
@Schaschaki
@Schaschaki 3 жыл бұрын
@@chimp9465 I'm pretty sure it's passed pawn though? ;)
@ymirtheymir2403
@ymirtheymir2403 3 жыл бұрын
Martin Kra its actually pest pawn, bc the pawn is a pest to your opponent
@chimp9465
@chimp9465 3 жыл бұрын
@@ymirtheymir2403 hm thats a fair take on it lol ill give you that, im pretty sure its actually passed pawn tho, which honestly makes thinking it could be past pawn make alot more sense
@YourPhysicsSimulator
@YourPhysicsSimulator 3 жыл бұрын
Wesley wanted to get featured on a Guess the Elo episode so badly that he ended up being featured on an episode where Levy shows a brilliant game. Well played, my friend
@miguelangelowong6786
@miguelangelowong6786 3 жыл бұрын
gothamchess is god in flesh form
@bomboid
@bomboid 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I stumbled upon you here! I watch your vids lol
@YourPhysicsSimulator
@YourPhysicsSimulator 3 жыл бұрын
@@bomboid Really?, thank you so much
@davoodoh3137
@davoodoh3137 2 жыл бұрын
@@miguelangelowong6786 nah
@ajlassick5982
@ajlassick5982 3 жыл бұрын
Levy: “Wesley plays a move the engine doesn’t see!!!” Me: I do that all the time! *laughs in Botez Gambit*
@dageneral7708
@dageneral7708 3 жыл бұрын
I dont get it botez gambit?
@macmadness5932
@macmadness5932 3 жыл бұрын
@@dageneral7708 its a queen sacrafice, and i dont feel like explaining the joke
@lamepotato3407
@lamepotato3407 3 жыл бұрын
@@dageneral7708 blundering a queen
@Stien58_
@Stien58_ 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@dageneral7708
@dageneral7708 3 жыл бұрын
@@lamepotato3407 Oh. OOOOOOOOOOOOH
@dannybeast6660
@dannybeast6660 3 жыл бұрын
Only this man could be putting out so much great content whilst still trying to get the gm title RESPECT
@LovelyDuck
@LovelyDuck 3 жыл бұрын
Pin of truth when?
@Aerowind
@Aerowind 3 жыл бұрын
On the one hand yeah, on the other hand, him analyzing a bunch of games like this is probably helping him on that road. Not to mention the million man cheer squad.
@aidenhayes7153
@aidenhayes7153 3 жыл бұрын
Stock fish had a stroke
@sriracha9729
@sriracha9729 3 жыл бұрын
bruh... he doesn't really care about gm title, it is just another topic for "content".
@x0cx102
@x0cx102 3 жыл бұрын
@@sriracha9729 not necessarily. if he only cared about content and didn't matter the gm title he probably wouldn't have gone back to otb tournaments anyway since it's more stressful for him and he's already got a good gig on youtube and twitch
@AviansEnthusiast
@AviansEnthusiast 3 жыл бұрын
One of those rare moments when Stockfish is out of stock.
@joshuapunzalan8380
@joshuapunzalan8380 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@pontusl1421
@pontusl1421 3 жыл бұрын
Stock overflow
@whamer100
@whamer100 3 жыл бұрын
@@pontusl1421 Stock overfish
@SylarisYT
@SylarisYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@whamer100 Overfish stock
@crimsonitacilunarnebula
@crimsonitacilunarnebula 3 жыл бұрын
non-stock-fish
@superbrawl8391
@superbrawl8391 3 жыл бұрын
The one time Levy can say ‘computers don’t understand chess’ and the one episode he doesn’t say it
@itsdifficulttocreateaperfe9850
@itsdifficulttocreateaperfe9850 3 жыл бұрын
But he basically said it
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 3 жыл бұрын
My games also confuse Stockfish. It does not understand how anyone could play such dumb moves.
@infra_Gray
@infra_Gray 3 жыл бұрын
??
@shawnakshivakumar
@shawnakshivakumar 3 жыл бұрын
lmaooo
@saltypineapples998
@saltypineapples998 3 жыл бұрын
Felt that
@nicky2coats
@nicky2coats 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahah great comment
@buttonfire6663
@buttonfire6663 3 жыл бұрын
@@infra_Gray ??,?!,?
@TheBrainiac12
@TheBrainiac12 3 жыл бұрын
"You never try to destroy an entire castle with one horse"- Levy Rozman, Guess the Elo 18 9:09
@sebastianholzl4668
@sebastianholzl4668 3 жыл бұрын
YO I ran all the moves from the knight sac on to the queen trade through my Stockfish 14 and gave it like 3 minutes in every position. Not only did Wesley attack with only top-engine moves, MVL defended in the most engine-perfect way. Like, even when Levy said that h5 was the most precise defense, Stockfish 14 discards this move after about 30 seconds and suggests bishop takes b5. And MVL found this defense over the board. That is INSANE. And even the continuation, sliding the rook over and trading queens is top engine-level stuff. Unbelievable.
@SizeableTroutGameing
@SizeableTroutGameing 3 жыл бұрын
I wish we could get an openings video occasionally like the ones he used to do.
@NotKiramisu
@NotKiramisu 3 жыл бұрын
He could plug his courses after an opening video if he wants to as well. It could hook him some customers who want a more of a deeper dive into some lines rather than just a quick overview.
@kws7725
@kws7725 3 жыл бұрын
Does a 10 min opening video really accomplish alot though.... theres books with 1500 variations for 1c4. Theres alot of better ways to make educational content. But tbh levy is more for entertainment, his training games have been the most instructive videos he has put out.
@samhatts5601
@samhatts5601 3 жыл бұрын
Watch hanging pawns he does great opening videos
@manawearblack
@manawearblack 3 жыл бұрын
@@kws7725 his opening videos are usually 30 minutes or so now, and his Vienna one almost single handedly got me to 1200.
@kws7725
@kws7725 3 жыл бұрын
@@manawearblack yea i will admit i watched the vienna one a couple time a while back, i guess there good for introducing some possibilities to people then we can go explore them in more detail. But tactics everyday is where we start to farm rating points.
@matijabanjan3960
@matijabanjan3960 3 жыл бұрын
Wesley is such a beast in Fisher random, love it. I honestly would love to see him in the future against Carlsen for the World Chess Championship title, I think that would be amazing match!
@mariosandiego76
@mariosandiego76 3 жыл бұрын
he could hardly join the candidates.WCC is just too far fetched.
@matijabanjan3960
@matijabanjan3960 3 жыл бұрын
So is world number 6 if I'm not mistaken, if he tries a bit he can reach candidates :)
@VegetaPixel
@VegetaPixel 3 жыл бұрын
@@matijabanjan3960 He's reached the Candidates before, but he came 7th out of 8. Still, you never know.
@kaythia-s9h
@kaythia-s9h 2 жыл бұрын
I've thought this myself! He beat Magnus 13.5 to 2.5 in the World Fischer Random Championship - I think if he played him in classical it would be a real war. All about if Wesley could complicate the board enough since he tends to win in those positions more often.
@anteeklund4159
@anteeklund4159 3 жыл бұрын
Nf6+ feels just like the kind of move I would play in a bullet game
@peep2268
@peep2268 3 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest man we'd probably hang our queen on the long diagonal
@Asr.-
@Asr.- 3 жыл бұрын
@@peep2268 yeah man the long diagonals always screws up my 3 minute blitz games
@isavenewspapers8890
@isavenewspapers8890 2 жыл бұрын
@@Asr.- Let me guess, triple digits?
@Werdna12345
@Werdna12345 3 жыл бұрын
Wesley: Nf6 Computer: “Man! Humans are nasty! We are so bad at chess!” 😉
@evavirydova5919
@evavirydova5919 3 жыл бұрын
"Humans are scumbags!"
@saharshluthra6492
@saharshluthra6492 3 жыл бұрын
Computer: "Shut up human, you don't know anything about chess"
@snappingbear
@snappingbear 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Stockfish would easily beat anyone including So or Carlson. BTW, Nf6 doesn't provide any advantage over a3 because both result in draws.
@isavenewspapers8890
@isavenewspapers8890 2 жыл бұрын
@@snappingbear Yes, engines are stronger than humans. Looks like the joke went over your head. As for the second part... well, I don’t know why you included the second part, because it’s not relevant to anything. Edit: It’s also wrong. Straight-up.
@snappingbear
@snappingbear 2 жыл бұрын
@@isavenewspapers8890 The second part refers to comments made in the video. Looks like that obviously went over your head, but that it did wouldn't surprise anyone.
@rockyjforay
@rockyjforay 3 жыл бұрын
I have a hard enough time learning to play with the pieces in their original position
@suezuccati304
@suezuccati304 3 жыл бұрын
The point of 960 is that you know less how to play it
@johnstevenson9956
@johnstevenson9956 3 жыл бұрын
@@suezuccati304 I certainly do.
@dragonbane44
@dragonbane44 3 жыл бұрын
@@suezuccati304 I certainly know less, you got that part right.
@granthdhir7491
@granthdhir7491 3 жыл бұрын
@@dragonbane44 my rating is rapid 1700
@alvarohigino
@alvarohigino 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard for you and for your oponent, it's more fun, try it.
@matsr_2279
@matsr_2279 3 жыл бұрын
Left it on a bit longer, stock 14 finds it after about 30 minutes on my pc at depth 31!!
@greengoblin9567
@greengoblin9567 3 жыл бұрын
Wesley probably got a bit lucky that the tactics worked. It would be computationally intensive to be confident that the tactics work, so the computer is a pussy and writes the move off
@bobjoe8182
@bobjoe8182 3 жыл бұрын
i let lichess's stockfish 14 run, left computer, and came back to depth 38 to find that nf6+ was the top engine move, so no, that sacrifice didn't break stockfish, you just had to increase the depth
@softwarelivre2389
@softwarelivre2389 3 жыл бұрын
Infinity depth stockfish never makes a mistake, though. Just like infinite minimax.
@Isthatthegrimreaper170
@Isthatthegrimreaper170 3 жыл бұрын
It broke stockfish 13
@bobjoe8182
@bobjoe8182 3 жыл бұрын
@@loganashby2695 title was not misleading. title was false information, regardless of what he said in the video
@naymorningstar
@naymorningstar 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobjoe8182 Not necessarily: 13 can't see it.
@bobjoe8182
@bobjoe8182 3 жыл бұрын
@@naymorningstar lmfao. so i could play a move that stockfish 1 cant see and say i broke stockfish. ofc latest version is only one worth mentioning
@Nosikas
@Nosikas 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna guess this is Wesley So’s Nf6 before the video even loads
@MikeyFromClashOfClans
@MikeyFromClashOfClans 3 жыл бұрын
Probably, yeah
@Auroraisvibing21
@Auroraisvibing21 3 жыл бұрын
Funny seeing you around here.
@adibalabharat8247
@adibalabharat8247 3 жыл бұрын
prophet
@speedyx3493
@speedyx3493 3 жыл бұрын
That's why I like Fisher's chess. You don't have to know lots of theory, the player that played better wins
@elias-ioanrasca7808
@elias-ioanrasca7808 3 жыл бұрын
Wesley So: makes a brilliant move that stockfish did not see Stockfish after the move: of course i saw it, i just didnt like it
@Maxx61
@Maxx61 3 жыл бұрын
Over the years, I've discovered after an opponent's King side castle, getting that middle pawn protecting the big fella away from that second square was worth many a sacrifice. Credit to So for seeing it in a position and time format that doesn't give the players much time for deep levels of thought. That's why I love Bobby's creation. It brings out the visionaries. On a related note, I was watching this live down the cyber hall at "the club" and Maurice nearly coughed up a hairball after seeing it. LOL
@anamoyeee
@anamoyeee 3 жыл бұрын
Gotham: rooks dont jump over the pieces welcome to gotham chess recaps Meanwhile: 3:03 (i know castling normally makes rook jump over the kin but this one looks like the castling didn't happen because the king didn't move)
@chimp9465
@chimp9465 3 жыл бұрын
In shogi (japanese chess), the rooks can jump pieces i think, maybe theyre playing that
@anamoyeee
@anamoyeee 3 жыл бұрын
@@chimp9465 no that's just a rule in chess960 i think not in japanese variation chess
@chimp9465
@chimp9465 3 жыл бұрын
@@anamoyeee chess960 plays like regular chess, the only rules is that the king must start between your two rooks for castling and your bishops cant be on the same colour, other than this its the same mechanically though
@anamoyeee
@anamoyeee 3 жыл бұрын
@@chimp9465 i mean if the rook starts in the corner and the king next to the rook the king doesn't move, the rook just phases through the king 2 squares
@chimp9465
@chimp9465 3 жыл бұрын
@@anamoyeee o i see now lol thats so weird
@bernardocarneiro4169
@bernardocarneiro4169 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't talk about some engines saying Qh6 was a blunder
@Johnsli
@Johnsli 3 жыл бұрын
When going through analysis in a line after one of my games, one move was shown as giving the best advantage, but having actually played it stockfish concidered it a blunder.
@Drawfill
@Drawfill 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like 960 is breeding grounds for brilliant moves. I wish more people played it.
@jaredcarter1165
@jaredcarter1165 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so proud of myself for actually considering the first two moves of the tactic, i admit I didn't fully theorize but weakening the kingside pawns for a crushing attack is a big point I've taken from many of Levy's videos
@DjVortex-w
@DjVortex-w 3 жыл бұрын
I let Stockfish 12 to mull on that position for quite a while. After 4.5 billion nodes, depth 46/60, it considers Bc2 the best move, at +2.8. At no point did it suggest Nf6. I then made the Nf6 move and let it analyze that position, and after 1 billion nodes, depth 42/69 , it ended up on +3.8.
@_APV_
@_APV_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your CPU time sacrifice, lol. I stopped mine at depth 36 with same result.
@tonywo2735
@tonywo2735 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that stockfish not only cant see Nf6, it cant see the following Qh6 neither. It gives Bc2 as the best follow up with +2 eval but after it sees Qh6 it says +5 eval.
@bernardocarneiro4169
@bernardocarneiro4169 3 жыл бұрын
It says Qh6 was a blunder xD
@ilyasergeev8634
@ilyasergeev8634 2 жыл бұрын
However, the new Stockfish 15 finds the move almost instantly
@12magner05
@12magner05 3 жыл бұрын
You should do more videos on chess 960! I like it when high level chess games don’t have any abstract theory to confuse me.
@user-cv2uf1yy1f
@user-cv2uf1yy1f 3 жыл бұрын
The KZbin “bell” has changed my life. Much love Levy.
@windows7821
@windows7821 3 жыл бұрын
lately i always got the notification from his discord, also works.
@THEpicND
@THEpicND 3 жыл бұрын
I watch so much of gotham that youtube shows me every video immediately without the bell
@teruras
@teruras 3 жыл бұрын
@@windows7821 Nah sometimes there is much delay. It‘s like Google Chrome vs. Edge
@hormigatomic1
@hormigatomic1 3 жыл бұрын
@@teruras i dont understand the it’s chrome vs edge part, like are you saying edge it’s slower than chrome? Or what
@windows7821
@windows7821 3 жыл бұрын
@@hormigatomic1 Isnt that like the typical joke/sterotype?
@clausable6328
@clausable6328 2 жыл бұрын
I tested out the position at 7:10 where the sacrifice was played with a beta version of Stockfish 15. It found Nf6+ in under a second. Just goes to show how much chess engines still need to improve despite being 3600 ELO.
@khy6330
@khy6330 3 жыл бұрын
Love the reaction of the commentators, shows how true genius leaves mere mortals dumbfounded.
@scanver1355
@scanver1355 3 жыл бұрын
Engines often can’t understand my moves, sometimes I even win after that
@orbyfied
@orbyfied Жыл бұрын
stockfish maybe doesnt see it because with optimal play there is no threat?
@Hanyamanusiabiasa
@Hanyamanusiabiasa 3 жыл бұрын
Stockfish 15 : Sacrificing queen at the 5th move, and somehow win the game at the 34th move.
@anthonym1880
@anthonym1880 3 жыл бұрын
I like that engines still work in 960, because only the setup is different , but all the same rules apply after that
@deanvanzelst5011
@deanvanzelst5011 3 жыл бұрын
I actually found knight f6. Exept i didnt know what to do after, i just thought when you said its an insane move that it would be some sort of check sacrifice and the only available piece was the knight. Lol.
@riluna3695
@riluna3695 3 жыл бұрын
I did exactly the same thing. Would never have been able to follow it up, but when given enough hints I can find clever things :D
@Isthatthegrimreaper170
@Isthatthegrimreaper170 3 жыл бұрын
The worst part about finding a ridiculous engine move Trying to find the continuation
@parzingtheasian
@parzingtheasian 3 жыл бұрын
@@riluna3695 even when i get hints i still don't understand anything, sadge
@hq5485
@hq5485 3 жыл бұрын
When you predict Nf6 when levy asks even though u have no idea why: Maybe I am a grandmaster
@isasophieful
@isasophieful 2 жыл бұрын
Once I saw it, Nf6 actually made sense at first sight, because I was used to giving up pieces to try to exploit dark-square weaknesses with Qh6.
@viktor5910
@viktor5910 3 жыл бұрын
12:02 is typical GM talk, give this man GM already
@trondeg74
@trondeg74 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Wesley So is actually the Fischer Random world champion (also called Chess 960 - or 9LX if you create an unholy union of Roman and Arabic numerals). He beat Magnus Carlsen in the finals in 2019, making it the only championship Magnus doesn't currently hold.
@ethandarbourne8045
@ethandarbourne8045 3 жыл бұрын
Massive trade occurs, “so material is completely equal” HOW IS IT ALWAYS COMPLETELY EQUAL IT PISSES ME OFF
@Someone25948
@Someone25948 3 жыл бұрын
Because they wouldn't trade if it wasn't equal
@greengoblin9567
@greengoblin9567 3 жыл бұрын
Otherwise it would be a serious blunder and one player would lose the game.
@Isthatthegrimreaper170
@Isthatthegrimreaper170 3 жыл бұрын
They're super gms for a reason
@parasyadav6849
@parasyadav6849 3 жыл бұрын
I do a massive trade and suddenly I am down a rook , 😂😂
@stoutlager6325
@stoutlager6325 3 жыл бұрын
You don't enter the trade if it's losing. That's why.
@mkwilson1394
@mkwilson1394 3 жыл бұрын
That Nf6 reminds me of Byrne - Fischer 1963. You expect the knight to go after material in the form of a rook, but instead it collapses the enemy position. Really beautiful.
@artsenor254
@artsenor254 3 жыл бұрын
I know of another great example of a sacrifice that Stockfish has a lot of trouble seeing or even understanding, but I can't seem to find the game in which it was played (I know it was Leela as white and she won, but I couldn't find it). It goes as a bishop sacrifice in the Ruy Lopez opening ; the game went 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Bc5 (i believe this was the pre-arranged position) 4. c3 Bb6 5. d4 exd4 6. cxd4 Nce7 7. O-O c6 (maybe the move order isn't perfectly right, but you get to that position), in which Leela played 8. d5 with the idea to follow 8... cxb5 with 9. d6 and completely paralyze black's position. If anyone remembers that game, I'd be glad if you could share the reference.
@BigBigFlo
@BigBigFlo 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna comment on your Rorschach impression in your previous video (because it was so on point) but boy do I like you Stockfish impressions in that one!! Great energy and vibe in that video!
@omegadeadpool2947
@omegadeadpool2947 3 жыл бұрын
I break the Engine on the regular, half the time the Engine is probably having an Aneurysm attack when I play
@nahimislam749
@nahimislam749 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait till Levy becomes a grandmaster
@RockClimberAlex
@RockClimberAlex 2 жыл бұрын
7:48 5th of January 2022 here. If you put the position in lichess today it immediately gives Nf6, it shows "cloud depth 36". Some positions are in a database, I suspect, looks like this one made it in.
@clausable6328
@clausable6328 2 жыл бұрын
What is so crazy is that I tested out a beta version of the upcoming Stockfish 15. I ran it locally on my machine, and it found the move legit under a second, with no cloud help!
@FunnyMemes-dr3se
@FunnyMemes-dr3se 3 жыл бұрын
Wesley So be making stockfish rethink. I wonder if the engine can even spot it as brilliant.
@c1ph9r
@c1ph9r 3 жыл бұрын
Wesley: * *made A MOVE that engines doesn't understand* * Levy: "What a brilliant move!!!n :POGFACE* Guess the Elo submitters: * *Plays MOVES that engines doesn't not understand* * Levy: "What the hell was that, you 600, Bozo???"
@itscominghome1209
@itscominghome1209 2 жыл бұрын
“so, wesley begins with the move b4” unintentional but brilliant
@DrZaius3141
@DrZaius3141 3 жыл бұрын
I am already disappointed this game didn't begin with: 1. O-O
@noahtetreault3859
@noahtetreault3859 3 жыл бұрын
The engine saw Nf6, he just didn’t like it
@musicforsoul9922
@musicforsoul9922 3 жыл бұрын
I played a move that engine tells is a blunder, but on the very next move I checkmated the opponent, and that “blunder” move was necessary.
@lookdiogenes
@lookdiogenes 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see showcase spotlights of the top 50 active players to get a better sense of the stakes and better engage with the sport.
@AndrewBeveridge461
@AndrewBeveridge461 3 жыл бұрын
Levy a few days ago when a position never seen arose: "Chess is hard." Levy today: "Here's some stuff where the rules were put in a blender."
@tentop1234
@tentop1234 3 жыл бұрын
I make moves that engines don’t understand everyday. I think the technical term for them is “blunders”
@erenjaeger3598
@erenjaeger3598 3 жыл бұрын
GMs * plays the moves that engines could not understand me, 400Elo * plays one move threat that actually hung a piece.
@prayagchawla1603
@prayagchawla1603 3 жыл бұрын
grt job levy, pls post recaps of the fide chess olympiad since the format is very confusing and no one does it better than you!! Keep up the gud work, luv your videos
@AntiTheory
@AntiTheory 3 жыл бұрын
I actually saw the move in question, figuring that opening up the space after the pawn takes the knight would allow for some kind of tricky mating trap, which is funny because I don't usually see those sorts of plays.
@alinerizo.
@alinerizo. 3 жыл бұрын
Never clicked this fast in my life... actually, I have, that was Levy's win in the Round Robin event
@DrinkTeaBro
@DrinkTeaBro 3 жыл бұрын
trueeee
@potatobake2707
@potatobake2707 3 жыл бұрын
love how the commentators are that much worse than these guys, that if the engine doesnt agree, they assume the player is wrong
@carlhedgins
@carlhedgins 3 жыл бұрын
The commentators are gms btw
@potatobake2707
@potatobake2707 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlhedgins thanks will edit comment
@haleysettembre
@haleysettembre 3 жыл бұрын
7th day of translating Levy's titles into Neapolitan: "Stu sacrific epic ha rutt Stockfish"
@Vlad_the_Implier
@Vlad_the_Implier 3 жыл бұрын
*ruba la corona al re prima di andarsene*
@vignusky
@vignusky 3 жыл бұрын
lu cavall ha scassat ù stocco, uagliù!
@Darkness3827
@Darkness3827 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there's ever been a case of the reverse where Stockfish thought a move was super winning but didn't see a counter to it.
@emmettdja
@emmettdja 3 жыл бұрын
OMG I GOT IT! KNIGHT F6 CHECK! I knew it! Big brain. 7:48
@NightmareToast9
@NightmareToast9 3 жыл бұрын
holy moly, i actually guessed it right, the knight sacrifice move lol, i didnt know this game or anything, but tbh i just see it as ooo, lets ruin the structure then i have no idea what to mvoe next kek
@detectivemarkseven
@detectivemarkseven 3 жыл бұрын
8:30 "dont copy strike me" then nervous laughter 😅 lol
@steelistheunworthy6534
@steelistheunworthy6534 3 жыл бұрын
chess 960? didnt know they made tournaments at my elo lvl
@MohammedKHan-eu6hz
@MohammedKHan-eu6hz 3 жыл бұрын
What about 690 should be close to my level
@byzantines2000
@byzantines2000 3 жыл бұрын
The engine never understands my moves, always for worse.
@dysonsphere2394
@dysonsphere2394 3 жыл бұрын
Tal is smiling from heaven
@Seanderson3
@Seanderson3 3 жыл бұрын
"I like the preposterous like pan to the camera and there's just a knight on f6" *_this description paired with the camera footage made me laugh_*
@innesm5963
@innesm5963 3 жыл бұрын
*New video idea for Levy:* Create three or five games (with players of increasing ranks i.e. 700s, 900s, 1200, 1800s etc...) and put them all in move 20 (or any particular move) of a very famous chess game and see how the players play the position! I think it would be really interesting to see the comparisons between playstlyes and the development and implementation of certain tactics and ideas of specific ranks. Then when you've recapped the new games, explain how the original game was played and why it was so famous! I love your content Levy, really enjoying recent videos and going back and watching the old ones (your energy has been off the charts lately). Appreciation and support from the UK 🇬🇧 !
@wardsmith2542
@wardsmith2542 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, Bobby Fisher was pushing for the back row change 60 years ago. He said chess had become too "predictable"
@schizoframia4874
@schizoframia4874 3 жыл бұрын
This should be a youtube series
@sonicast5631
@sonicast5631 3 жыл бұрын
I tested the position on my computer and Stockfish 14 finds Nf6+ at depth 34, however the reply after gxf6 is Nc3 in the PV until depth 41, and when playing Nf6+ gxf6 it finds very quickly Qh6. So technically Stockfish can find the sacrify, it just takes time
@fogtim
@fogtim 3 жыл бұрын
MVL busted like 10 minutes off his clock in a 15 minute game or something trying to play f5. I remember watching live how shocked the commentators slowly became from the knight sac
@bims4575
@bims4575 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Gothamchess is so close to overtaking agadmator
@1.4142
@1.4142 3 жыл бұрын
they are tied right now, but soon he will be the biggest chess youtuber
@DekritGampamole
@DekritGampamole 3 жыл бұрын
Legend says that Stockfish was hospitalized after this game.
@nothingspecial8968
@nothingspecial8968 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I saw that because that is the only move that opens the king too much with the bishop pair and forces to take
@salient9935
@salient9935 3 жыл бұрын
Props to MVL for holding that position for a while.
@The22Century
@The22Century 3 жыл бұрын
This game is incredible. I love chess.
@duartista
@duartista 3 жыл бұрын
I play quite a lot of moves that engines don't understand, that's how how I roll baby
@TheChameleon64
@TheChameleon64 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating to see how levy's analysis is on the spot even in another chess variant
@santinomozzarella4270
@santinomozzarella4270 3 жыл бұрын
1:00 i see what you did there rozman levy
@loganpaulwastakenwastaken
@loganpaulwastakenwastaken 3 жыл бұрын
I'm constantly playing moves that the engine doesn't understand
@lyssalud6781
@lyssalud6781 3 жыл бұрын
my wife in the background: "shut up chessguy, chess is not gangster." 🥲
@lyssalud6781
@lyssalud6781 3 жыл бұрын
@Eric Lee i guess the way i wrote it you can interpret it toxic or jokingly either way. Not every corner of life is toxic and looking for it seems like a terrible life choice. I have the best wife. _Sie passt wie die Faust aufs Auge_ (btw a specific phrase that can only be determined whether it fits perfectly or not at all when you hear *how* I say it.)
@OutstandinglySteve
@OutstandinglySteve 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao Levy trying not to get copyright striked was quite entertaining
@JuanPablodelaTorre
@JuanPablodelaTorre 3 жыл бұрын
When So plays it is a masterful move, but when I play it is a rookie blunder... not fair
@Eggemeyers
@Eggemeyers 3 жыл бұрын
11:55 actually what MVL played with Bxb5 is by far better than h5. At depth 38, h5 is +10.49, while Bxb5 is +5.64.
@kellynolen498
@kellynolen498 3 жыл бұрын
I want a engine that plays for an en passent checkmate or draw with as much depth as needed
@Doupis
@Doupis 3 жыл бұрын
Saw it live the commentators said it was not a good move at first. They were like “what?” 😂
@therightway15
@therightway15 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it but I actually found it. The dark square weakness in the position gave it away for me.
@Karn0010
@Karn0010 3 жыл бұрын
I always play moves the engine doesn't see. That is how I blunder all my pieces in 2 moves.
@violetsapphire952
@violetsapphire952 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. Wesley's really out here living in 3020 while I'm still just looking at the board like Confused Unga Bunga
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