This Is F**ked Up! The issue with selling beats online!

A fake company online is selling producers beats & instrumentals illegally for commercial and personal use to companies and Networks like Lifetime TV and others. My mission is to expose and shut down this online store and others like it selling our instrumentals with zero authority. I need your help exposing them by sharing this video and reporting the website!
I was told there is nothing I can do about it! I'm sick of hearing that and you should be too! Time to fix this game and also make companies and networks like Lifetime TV to put a little more focus and be aware of what, where and from who they are buy licenses from. Sorry for the lengthy video, I just wanted to be clear about what was going on. Please contact me if you have any more information on them or what we can do about it together!
Email: [e-mail]
Site: jcanan.net
Social Media:
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/ iamjcanan
/ jcananbeats
KZbin: bit.ly/2gVWlzX (Please Subscribe)
This is the fraudulent website "BeatsBank"
beatsbank.com/
(I'm aware the owner of the site has purchase multiple domains.)
Beats Bank is hosted with:
www.hostkey.com/
Their Email: [e-mail]
(Please email them if your beat is up there too and if not.)
Report Them:
www.icann.org/
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[@DJPain1]

If we don't collectively stop putting up with this stuff and move as a unit to run these frauds out of the game, we will never win. Sadly, I've run exposés on various people who are scamming or otherwise taking advantage of producers, and a lot of producers have Stockholm syndrome and are comfortable playing the victim role in this industry. It has to stop or we will be permanently doomed.

[@DJPain1]

Yes sir, hit me with an email or tweet or something

[@JCSkillaBeatz]

DJ Pain 1 true... real facts... it's sad

[@KoolKatBeatz]

does it even help when u have the beat copy-written?? i mean...copyrighted..

[@DJPain1]

That's not a word and formal copyright only gives you benefits if you litigate. You can do some quick google research and learn about it or watch my videos explaining it.

[@JavTheRipper]

DJ Pain 1 If he were to file a suit against Lifetime would that do anything? In that case, I am assuming that they would either eat the suit or put pressure on the guy who sold them the beat.

[@TeeMegaMusic]

I think we need to all start selling our beats for more money like $2500 a beat, point blank period!

[@RodneyD]

J Canan HELL!! We use to charge that amount and even more back in the mid nineties and early 2000’s. Then assholes like “BEATS BY JOE BLOW” started selling beat leases online for $19.99. Practically giving beats away for free. Completely fucked up the game for everybody.

[@vice2versa]

@@RodneyD then beats would all cost too damn much. just leave exclusive beats for that much. cheap beats should be able to sell multiple times.

[@RodneyD]

vice2vursa Yea... but how to you define a cheap beat. Is it the price or the lack of creativity??

[@MorrisonoStudiosTV]

I still do know the logic of 5 dollar beat leases or 50 dollar exclusives. It's hard to get beat sales for even a 30 dollar lease these days but I'm not going any lower. When I was leasing out beats for 20 I could get a sale or two a day. Thinks a lot 5 dollar producers for ruining our business.

[@D2therJ]

I've been in a similar situation. It's super expensive to persue anything legally. What you can do though for free however is send DMCA notices to the domains address and their hoster. Get your instrumental removed from the site and void his leasing contract to the beat. GL with it man.

[@DJPain1]

This is literally the only correct and practical comment I've read unfortunately.

[@DJPain1]

Producers really think it's easy to find a lawyer who is willing to sue for over a few hundred to a few thousand dollars. All this "copyright it," "register it with BMI," "take them to court" stuff sounds good in a comment, but it doesn't mean a damn thing in the real world. We have to protect ourselves and each other instead of trying to tell one another what we should or should have done.

[@deemoore4217]

if you love your music copyright (not poor man's) and register it (ASCAP, BMI ,SESAC) forget what any one says about it otherwise!!!! these services have been available for YEARS! And Producers have been winning cases like these in court look it up.

[@DJPain1]

Name one case in which a producer took a rapper or their label to court for stealing a beat and won.

[@deemoore4217]

So basically, you are promoting its better to NOT COPYRIGHT your music. Its easy to look up, but here's a few copyright infringement cases: Marvin Gaye vs Robin Thicke ("Blurred Lines"), Casey Dienel vs Justin Beiber ("Sorry") Ralf Hutter vs Kraftwerk ("Only Me", German case). The Beatnuts Vs Trackmasters ("Jenny From the Block"). And your question doesn't apply to this video, Its a licensing issue. To all up coming producers be weary of others telling you not to COPYRIGHT YOUR MUSIC....IT IS COSTLY BUT WHAT IS THE COST WHEN YOU GET JACKED!!!!

[@DJPain1]

NOWHERE did I say "don't copyright your music." Nowhere, no time. This confused gentleman didn't name a SINGLE instance of a producer suing a label or rapper over stealing a beat. Licensing has nothing to do with it. When somebody steals your beat, it's copyright infringement. Copyright also isn't "costly," it's 35 dollars for 40-50 beats if you use the online option. Stop trying to argue just to argue. Come with something real and helpful for producers. Until you name a case in which a producer with a registered copyright had his/her beat stolen and successfully sued for damages in court, stay out of the convo.

[@deemoore4217]

You said "we have to protect ourselves and each other." If you are ridiculing and mocking copyrighting and registering your music, you are indirectly implying that "it doesn't mean a damn thing in the real world." You sound like you are back pedaling now that I pointed your stance out. Instead of talking out of both sides of your mouth, let me educate these upcoming producers and songwriters to copyright and register with a Performing Rights Organization to protect themselves. By the way his music was stolen and was played on a Television show. That is not only copyright infringement it is also a music licensing issue. Not only did they not own the rights, they also did not have permission to use it for TV/Film. And for you to put yourself as a DJ in front of the people on KZbin giving misinformation. Im not arguing with you i am debating your approach, to tell someone not to get a lawyer and fight for their music is cowardly. I told you to look it up....its not that hard to find examples on Google, by the way a lot of these cases are settled outside of court. Peace!!!!! And let the people read the truth I am telling them.

[@JaySantanaofficial]

we have to union up, they think that they can play us. without us hip hop would be dead af

[@SlapUpMill]

get a publisher, you are owed loads from the airplay alone. An advert in Holland used one of my beats and i got paid. It took a year.

[@deemoore4217]

DONT GIVE UP!!! THATS MY POINT GET YOURS!!

[@AnnoDominiBeats]

Sorry to hear that happened to you man... If I had a dollar every time someone stole one of my beats... unfortunately shit like this happens constantly. I once found a guy who had made $30k+ selling my beats under his own name and even winning awards for them. There's very little you can do, shitty people will stream rip your tracks, cut around your tags and resell them. The best you can hope for is 1) register your songs with your PRO 2) copyright them if possible 3) keep backups of your save files and backups 4) enter your beats into ContentID 5) scan for usage of your beats with a program like TuneSat 6) have very clear terms of use on your website and in your contracts that are sent to people who buy your beats 7) educate yourself and understand your rights

[@xoxoladieeeemagggg]

One of the many reasons I have not put out any product.. but you're right we gotta come together on this issue as producers cause we're the ones being sold short smdh

[@iseeyou4291]

I can't beleive it !! Such a outtaworld behaviour !! Let's take him down TOGETHER !!

[@DJFRANKNICE34]

This is real crazy! I will check out this website to see if any of my beats are on there. Thanks for the info my brother!

[@Slym95beats]

crazy..srry to hear man..but thanks for putting this out there so new producers like myself and others are aware of this type of stuff man!

[@DjVybe]

We will put an end to these fuckers! Thanks for sharing man

[@DCeeMusik]

I thank you for this one. I would've never suspected it. It's a shame when people do this for a quick buck. We put in money, time, blood and sweat to make dope tracks only for frauds to sell it to big TV companies for pennies. I will be having my pen and pad and some legal advice plotting my moves as I build my catalog and website. Once again, I thank you and I'm with you in this fight.

[@BUKUbeats]

Thanks for sharing man smh thanks for looking out for us producers

[@shaun826ofammagodbeats4]

wow this is fucked up for real man. Almost discouraging

[@vennettegloud3128]

This make s me livid. The thing that I've seen people do over the years in similar situations is, even if their site is taken down they can go up again under a different name. These people are taking food out of our children’s mouths and they really need to be stopped. They will get an email from me. I’m not going to wait until they steal from me. This is preventive action. Thank you J Canan for the info.

[@flipmybeatz]

Good video Fam! This type of thing has been going on since about 2006. Too many loopholes and too easy to get ripped off in this business.

[@Twolf125]

I'm glad I watched this...I hope you get justice..damn crooks..I'm trying to start my own beat site and feel this could happen to me one day

[@LumiTheImpaler]

Liked. Subbed. And about to share. This is absolute FUCKING BULLSHIT!! im gonna have this video spread around like wild fire. although we dont know each other personally, i see you as a brother-in-arms in this industry and i am sooooo fucking against anyone that participates in this type of illegal activity.

[@joytv2460]

that drop friken slapped me in the FACE

[@jayskibeats1951]

Man this is insane bro, we need to create a site as a collective to stay up to date designed to include websites links like "breakbeat". Together with members of the community joining up together in big numbers to warn others of these websites and the option to add suspected sites. Non-profit collective to help our producer community. The more members we have the bigger our voice to close these illegal sites. Let's start there bro's...

[@faridb.rushdan1377]

I just talked to a lawyer, if you had it COPYWRITTEN with the copyright office get a lawyer, you shouldn't​ have to pay for it. REGISTER YOUR STUFF PEOPLE, do as a collection. I hope everything works out for you.

[@leomadeit311]

Thank you for bringing this to light

[@leapinglizardsmusicllc4914]

This has happened to me. I hired attorneys to protect the rights to my music and stop the new swing sextet from infringing on my original music. But they continue using it without making any payment or an attempt to legally use my music with a license. Since legal representation is expensive and prohibitive, I search media sites for my music and when I find the illegal use of my music, I file a complaint with the site and the music is usually taken down. This is wrong and I should not have to do this. the New Swing Sextet should pay for a license.

[@boombeatz27]

I'm more sick that Lifetime isn't held liable for not doing research on who they buy beats from. Why the fuck does that million dollar company have the ability to afford Research and Development??? Lawless game man, you gotta Rob to keep your riches.

[@SageBeats]

Damn, thanks for sharing bro. Scammers are just horrible smh

[@jasonthomas2252]

Just seen this....and its definitely FUCKED UP!!!! Do you have in ur contracts not for Re-Sale???.....Do u have a Lawyer???.....Sorry this Happened to you bro, but this is why I stopped selling beats & now Mixing.

[@BadBalenax]

I'm not a lawyer. Been around music biz for a while. My 1st thought: the production company must pay you; IF you have copyright. Mail it to them with a specific amount of 'fee' for usage. You should also stay on top & in touch with the woman. surely she knows the action was wrong, so either push her to 'enable your music' to 'perform' in a show or as others stated 'search a lawyer'...some will work with you (knowing) it's a win. It's a win.

[@dulowceed]

Never give trackouts except for EXCLUSIVE SALES!!!

[@TroyPicasso]

In sort of a similar situation myself. Someone sent me a link to a instagram post today by SportsCenter and they used my instrumental on a Lebron James highlight reel. Not sure if they aired it on TV, because if they did then I got to enquire about that. Even when I looked at the video the beat sounded chopped/edited to try cover up the tags.

[@MitchMatch5]

That's wild bro, I'm sorry that happened to you.

[@hilos20]

Looks like it's shut down. Good shit man, sorry you had to deal with that shit.

[@whitelionmuzikproductionz9725]

Also the track outs are a no no they're paying major bucks and you can vet the buyer personally and professionally. Sorry about your loss bro , a class action suit

[@cicmanofficial]

Thanks for sharing bro! FYI www.beatsbank.com has been taken down. Keep up the good work.

[@tbonebeats6429]

Just seeing this. One of my publishers uses a company that encodes the music, gives it a digital finger print. That way no matter where the music is used, he will know about it. We may need to start using that for our beats.

[@tbonebeats6429]

Try Tunestat and/or soundmouse. Google those.

[@LumiTheImpaler]

oh, and track outs for 9.95??!! that's insane!! smh.....

[@scopesproductions5858]

Wow I got to go and check to see if I'm on there that's crazy

[@daydreamermuzik6495]

this is ridicules man WTF!! f people that do this stuff! majorly angered me! shout out to you for making this problem apparent G!

[@coachrandalljones]

Register all your music so there is an underlying wave that basically copyrights all your music for you to stop piracy/collect royalties.

[@mattvanderboegh]

I'd get in touch with your PRO immediately (if you're signed up for one, and hopefully you are), whether that be ASCAP, BMI, etc... They could probably help. Lawyers and copyright suits would probably cost you waaaay more than you're actually due for royalties. Let your PRO help you.

[@KineticKash]

I recognise some of the sounds you used are from a construction kit. I noticed you've added your own twist to it with the dubstep feel and other stuff. Legally would you still be able to get royalties since you used sounds from a construction kit? Wondering because I'm looking to get into producing beats more myself. I'm keen to learn the ins and outs. I've purchased some kits myself, just wasn't sure what i could do with them legally.

[@ohgee4396]

Conscious Kash you're years away from making money and worrying about all that shit

[@mokolobetsijohannesmashilo3315]

Lately heard a song by a major artist with a beat I heard from KZbin and the beat still has tags.was disappointed

[@sontwisted]

How are they not liable they Bought something that didnt belong to the seller

[@arcademcFLy]

sorry to hear this from you dude...

[@DjBryantD]

thats crazyy..I wanted to see that wallpaper on the desktop tho!!

[@chaulisaglass315]

WoW...this is fuxing crazy!

[@dboyva]

Wow this is insane sorry u have to deal with this

[@andremayo4849]

Also do you copy-write your works for hire? Any progress in this fraud case?

[@biggrime]

Only thing you can do is how the show blow up and sue after that. If not let it go

[@tmark8550]

Man good luck bro. Hope you get those F'er.

[@kennymonsters]

I think if I'm not mistaken you can contact the FBI because they deal with piracy which if you've registered your instrumentals with the copyright office would fall under that category... Piracy

[@TraderTimmy]

what about your official registration with Ascap Bmi, harryfox etc ? There's also the idea of finding a good publisher to sign with who specializes in music for tv film youtube etc

[@DjTumbao]

wow thats so fucked up , this is what you can do, maybe a Loyer will be interested to take the case if you can get a group of producers affected by this, and people who buy beats don't buy from this people

[@Darksagan]

Copy right...Copy right...Copy right.

[@Emohbailey]

This is shitty asf I'm sorry you are going through this

[@likwidguns]

THIS IS WHY I PRODUCE MORE ROCK AND POP.

[@skyhighbeatz]

wow that's fucked up JC I'm hoping for the best for you take care keep grinding.

[@pschase722]

Just seeing this video. Any updates on this? ICAAN has to step up here, they've positioned themselves as the authority in such matters, and this case seems cut and dry. People, let's get a form letter set up so when this happens we can flood the shit out of the inbox of everyone involved

[@REBELLIOUS513]

did you come to a resolution with this issue??

[@IPetGhost]

Realtalk This is played on national commercial tv show. Lawyer up bro, they shouldn't charge you. If the lawyer takes the case they will just take the money out from the settlement. You looking at 10's of k's.

[@MrDeejayk]

WOW they put a tag over it too......................................

[@DigitalCTZN]

you said the instrumental "did very well" and that you sold it a lot. When people buy the beats from you what terms do they agree to? You should have the terms clearly indicated to avoid this sort of problems. It's for your own protection. Also, if you have used any pre-made loop, etc... there are limitation to those as well. Good luck!

[@FRANKRICECOLD209]

That is One Reason i Don't Sale My Beats/Song on a Web Site i Sale Direct To Rappers And Singers That Pay For Studio Time At My Studio it is Crazy That Almost All Of Them Come To My Studio With A Low Quality Sounding Beat That Has Tags All over it and Sounds Like SHIT Not The Production But The Sound Quality Because The Ripped it From You Tube or Some Where i encourage Them Not To Do That ( I TELL THEM IF YOU WANT ME TO BEABAL TO MIX IT RITE BUY THE STUFF TRACKED OUT BUY THE WAV FILES SO IT WILL BE DONE RITE AND SOUND RITE

[@SonicSupremeSGT3]

This right there is why I'm making sure to get my copyrights done with screenshots, snippets and all before having the beat out in the open on the current music software I use. Typical Jermaine Dupri with typical Atlanta behavior. And typical Oprah. That's also why I sell it to you in private.

[@aafinity396]

the sample in your beat is the same as the one in jay idk's i picture but the rhythm and drums on the beat differs from your instrumental. have you heard that particular track

[@sontwisted]

How did you find your beat

[@prod.by.danielgiles]

is that site still up and running?has anyone sued them yet?

[@Blippys]

What's your homescreen?

[@iseeyou4291]

Oh I can't find it anymore. Probably has been taken down already !! Can somebodey confirm ?!

[@faridb.rushdan1377]

get a lawyer and let them know that you had it COPYWRITTEN, you won't have to pay them anything, no matter how long it takes.

[@jerzjerm2011]

first of all your never suppose to give track outs unless it's for a exclusive sell of the beat.. second if the guy getting royalties then you can sue him and lifetime u just need to get a lawyer

[@MrSneed25]

Jer-Z Jerm, I agree with you 💯% It's very unfortunate for my dude. Protect yourselves at all times. 💪🎧🎶🎤

[@rawfellaent7131]

How much to mix and master vocals

[@GritsNGravy]

You can still build a case and sue this ass hole, it would help if you get several producers together on the same case and hire a good entertainment lawyer. PSA for producers, To avoid this situation all together, DO NOT SELL YOUR TRACK OUTS UNLESS IT'S EXCLUSIVE/ONE TIME. Send whoever bought the exclusive the rights explaining exactly what they can and cannot use it for. If they break the terms and your beat pops up somewhere then you know exactly who to sue.

[@GritsNGravy]

J Canan If you have enough producers were the same situation happened involving this garbage website that increases the chances of a lawyer taking the case Pro bono, covering the expenses until the case is over. That's how you would build your case. You definitely did the right thing by drawing attention to the site warning producers.

[@330Buckeye]

Thank you for posting!!

[@HypasMusic]

If you have the created sequencer and they just have an mp3 or wave form, that could be a win for you.

[@jasonfontaine7072]

So I don't see Beats Bank up as a website anymore, were you successful in taking them down?

[@mostever8693]

yup

[@erick308058]

That is fucked up, definantely get a lawyer

[@X22KProducer]

I'm sharing this information

[@sterlingarcher3981]

Nice they got the site shut down

[@Kayplaya]

Beat is still up on that site as of April 20th smh

[@trumuzicn7214]

Bro😧😧😧 don't ever give traccouts out unless you have the person who is buying it, a lawyer, and a contract between all who is present. You giving your traccouts out for less than $100, you selling your soul for nothing. If anybody gets your traccouts, they can say they made it and if anybody ask them for proof, they will have the proof as long as they have them traccouts. And if you taking it to court please have a laptop with that beat pull up in whatever daw that you use and hope that they won't do they same, if so it's a 75% chance that the judge is going to throw the case out the window. Str8 ⬆✔🖒🏽. (The things you don't do as a music producer) #1. Don't sell traccouts w/o a conference or meeting and signing a contract str8 ⬆!!! Prayers out to all my fellow producers who are and aren't in the position for this situation to happen. Spread this #message / Spread the #word 💯 #hiphop #rap #beats #trap #rnb #music #producer #producers #respect the #hustle

[@andremayo4849]

This is worst than getting ghost produced!!!! I have a house in sf :2minutes from Fillmore street…holler at me

[@MD_Vadim]

Feel sorry for you bro! This is proper bullshit!!! Can you take this guy to the court in that case? Because this is for sure illegal!!!!! Chin up bro. As soon as you can prove with stems that this is your original work and that guy is gaining income with your intellectual property without your permission, the court should be on your side!

[@sierradouglas3406]

I thought when you sell exclusive that the buyer have all the rights.

[@sierradouglas3406]

I was a lil confuse around the 11:00 mark but i checked out your site and understand now.

[@ninjalemurdude]

How is Lifetime not liable? It should be their job to hold the scammer accountable since they were the ones that fell for it. I know it's old, but you should've pressed Lifetime.

[@thebrooks6833]

I got bought out before and I stop doing exclusives also

[@faridb.rushdan1377]

hey dude did you have it COPYWRITTEN?

[@noelkinz]

DONT GIVE AWAY YOUR TRACKOUTS UNLESS YOU ARE SELLING THE FULL RIGHTS TO THE BEAT, BECAUSE YOUR TRACKOUTS ARE THE ACTUAL PROJECT AND WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS ITS HARDER TO PROVE YOU ARE THE ORIGINAL OWNER BUT IF YOU STILL OWN THE PROJECT I SUGGEST I HOLD ON TO IT IF YOU GET THE CHANCE TO STEP IN THE COURTROOM.

[@Soundzofpurpose1]

LAWYER TIME WHAT THE FUCK YOU MEAN YOUR GOING TO JUST BE OK WITH WHAT YOUR HEARING,YOU NEED TO GO LEGAL ON THIS SITUATION THAT'S WHAT THEY GET PAYED FOR!! FUCK THAT!!!

[@binauraldeandean7028]

Wow!

[@MRTONYRAW]

i have some friends. let me see what they say about this man

[@dyzomusic9314]

Get a copyright for your music. . When you register it to the Department of Treasury (.gov) having with legal documentation of your work. This will be more of a liability if someone were to steal your works. You could have been able to have Lifetime TV prosecuted for copyright infringement.

[@dyzomusic9314]

Damages to your individuality could cost Lifetime TV $150,000.

[@slengtengempire1189]

Disturbing story!!

[@wavmagicians]

I'll Help you Bruh Thats shit make me wanna go upside a mf head

[@sinewavdrumsamples7496]

that's messed up!

[@RonDavinci]

its down??

[@VilOzBec]

seems like it

[@scottwood6631]

Ok. You do have a copyright.....right? Then get a lawyer and sue they will do it on percentage. You will win. Then wait for the legal process to take its course. If you did not copywrite then you have learned a valuable lesson. Paul Simon copywrited all his work when he had nothing because he had the foresight to realize his stuff was valuable.

[@netradioheyu]

so what ever became of this JC?

[@NeRdWxA]

The site is down!

[@mostever8693]

yup

[@andremayo4849]

You probably already know 2443 Fillmore street in northern cal is a ups store but also the phone number listed in your video is not "415" area code it says "844" so that's fishy off top but I'm late to your post