This is Going To Ruin Everything

first we got AI art, then AI voices, and now realistic AI video...
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[@ferrofluidfangz]

a kid has already killed herself over people making ai csem of her. i hate this new age of people saying to just get over it .. when kids are already dying

[@GenericProtagonist118]

More people need to see your comment.

[@uIie]

Actually horrific I love so many people but god damn do I hate people

[@littlemissemila1818]

Holy shit

[@avalerionbass]

A horrible circumstance, but a knife in the wrong hands is used to kill, but in the right hands can prepare a wonderful meal. The tool isn't the issue, the disgusting nature of humanity is. People have been using Photoshop to make similar material since it's inception too. Just cause it CAN be used for evil, doesn't inherently mean that it's an evil creation.

[@emoclowngirl]

calling people sensitive or soft or to get over it is so fucking childish it’s just a bunch of middle schoolers who never grew up and the grouped together and now it’s just a huge group of adults who act like children and clearly that’s extremely harmful

[@DemiroseCrab]

If AI videos continue to get more realistic, then all video evidence in court will be null and void. AI will ruin the world, just not in the ways that all of the movies predicted.

[@EnixEcho]

Genuinely terrifying

[@tsunamacade]

Absolutely true, if AI can replicate street camera footage, that can't be used in court, therefore criminals will be able to walk free due to lack of evidence. Might as well just be a criminal, seems like the only job untouchable by AI

[@nightingale_55curse81]

​@@tsunamacadethat's... Not how it works...

[@firefox524]

Is no one gonna talk about tech being made to counter that kind of stuff if it were to happen? Visually, we can be fooled. But all we need is meta data in order to find out if it's real or not. It's not always so simple, but meta data is where it's at.

[@Revonlieke]

@@firefox524 you can remove metadata pretty easily in various ways.

[@mariomario7481]

My opinion on ai stuff is like the one quote from Jurassic Park “your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.”

[@_lil_lil]

Personally I think the fact that it can be done is amazing, and I don't like to halt the progress of humanity. I think the idea of releasing it to the public before we're ready to deal with it as a society in terms of our ways of living and our current laws was... a choice. Quite like how certain medications for treating brain conditions like ADHD (which I have) is goddamn brilliant, but allowing the public to access the instructions and materials to formulate it very easily could be helpful to those who need it and also extremely harmful due to the bad actors who are more concerned with making a buck than humanity at large (though I guess we have pharmaceutical companies already doing that, so not a perfect analogy)

[@ericaallisonc]

@@_lil_lilwhat? Marketing has been using AI for over 10 years now, AI isn’t new, it’s only now in the hands of the public instead of companies and individuals.😂

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

Nah... That's an L take in the face of your Creator. Or perhaps Cosmos should return you all back to the dark ages of humanity.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@FaireWinds You humans die for lesser. Don't act like I don't know your species from Creation to the bitter End... Mortal. Because of your kin... "We" had to waste eternities of Existence just to give your World one last chance. And you humans may not even be alive by then.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@FaireWinds You humans bleed for lesser... ... ... But sure... I'll let God or Cosmos to judge your worthless souls. Politicians do better and they own your futures since the start. Under governmental and corporate decree. You know nothing of Mankind if this is all you had to say.

[@henrikvonschneeplestein]

Not to mention that as AI improves, more and more real artists are accused of being fakes because the AI is fed stolen art to mimic their styles. It's so heartbreaking.

[@yhd_skeetsy]

exactly, has already been happening a lot esp w anime styled art bc of how much better ai has gotten at hiding the og telltale mistakes + ppl conflating techniques and "ai gen-d details" ... i remember someone deleted rlly pretty princess peach fanart on twt bc everyone kept accusing it as ai and they literally made a post saying "im not posting my digital art like this anymore". fucking heartwrenching

[@_lil_lil]

​@@yhd_skeetsyquite frankly, seeing how Asmongold was treated for saying something correct (albeit in a way that came off incredibly insensitive) and cases like this, I think the anti AI sentiment is doing more harm than good (and being mean online tbh in general, though I'm sure many of us are guilty). The cat isn't going back in the bag, and being mean to people adapting is absolutely counterproductive. I would like people to spend even a little time they spend attacking artists (and even AI generating people, who I actually don't have a problem with so long as they disclose AI elements it's gucci) and redirect it towards political action: specifically worker protections and other means in which humans can continue to live once jobs in general become obsolete (it will happen eventually, and it can be dystopian, or a post work utopia if we do the work to create it now). As for the immediate problem, there's several AI detectors that, while not being 100% fool proof, correctly detected with 95% certainty a bunch of AI images, photos, art, and images with AI filters (the only one it wasn't completely sure about was an image that I put a 40% transparency AI image over a stock photo to see what would happen... and yeah, both AI or not AI are correct there).

[@avalerionbass]

It's not stolen art! For one, all the AI does is scan photos to understand the CONCEPTS of the image. If you have a picture with a house with a dog, it will scan it to understand the concepts of what those objects are and compare it to the MILLIONS of other scanned dogs and houses to make sure it understands what those objects are. It does NOT IN ANY WAY store an exact replica of anyone's photo. EVER. For two, the VAST majority of people claiming "stolen" art can't even actually claim that if it hasn't been copywrite protected. Three, these AI's were trained from scraping publicly accessible online domains, a legally protected activity. Four, almost every art hosting website has within it's terms and agreements, that EVERYONE has to agree to, that any art posted actually become intellectual property OF THAT WEBSITE. So on top of not having the right to claim anything since it's not copywritten material, you actually lose intellectual property rights ENTIRELY the moment you post it online. So sick of the ridiculous amounts of fear mongering and misinformation from people that have no actual idea what the hell they're talking about.

[@DigitalCosmos555]

Universal basic income is only long term solution that will work. The genie is out of the bottle and there's no way to put it back in. The need to earn money to survive is the real problem without it everyone would be able to pursue their passion and ai wouldn't matter. Its mportant to remember that ai art does not diminish the value of human art your art unless ai is used as a tool for greedy corporations while they still force you to need to make money to survive. Call and message your senator about ubi before its too late! Art is only the beginning lol look at images or even video its in its emphancy it was crappy and unusable but now look how quickly that got better O.o . In the long run, everyone will need ubi, not just artists because at AI will be able to do everything humans can do. The fight starts now.... We need to tax the corporations replacing people with AI and give that money back to the people.

[@AxiEisa]

My art wasn't even uploaded into A.I People just said that I was a bot and they wanted to kill me

[@Hyper_Fixation]

And some AI users get so butthurt when you don't like the generated art or writing they're trying to push but let me put it this way: why would I take the time to consume an art/writing piece that you wouldn't even take the time to create yourself?

[@WaddleBlock]

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[@CaseyTyler357]

Exactly!

[@ericaallisonc]

Writer here. 99.9% of written works are dog water, you should read some of the crap publishers get thrown at them on the daily, most people who think they are good writers are not, they are mediocre at best. 😂

[@FaeEvergreen]

As a disabled writer who uses AI to help me organize, focus and iterate my work, I disagree with you. For me, it's an accessibility tool and without it, the 60k+ words I have right now would have taken me years to create on my own (if it happened at all, which is unlikely). It also helps me edit, proofread and refine my work during the weirdo hours I keep. 3am and in pain? I can still work, because my copilot is ready to work whenever I want. People have been using assistance in various forms for ages. Random name/character/plot generators? Grammarly? Word spelling/grammar checker? All of these are machine assisted tools, they're just normalized. Gripe all you want, but you can pry AI from my cold, dead fingers.

[@serberusu]

EXACTLY

[@selenarichardson523]

As an artist I’ve had multiple teachers say “art is a profession you can never automate” which of course was true at the time…

[@lauren-fi8sc]

Unfortunately only physical art is safe for now… paintings, mixed media, ceramics. Sure there’s mass printed stuff, but people will still pay big money for the real deal. We’ll see how long that lasts ☹️

[@nanajosh]

Reminds me of what math teachers would say when growing up. "you're not always gonna have a calculator in your pocket."

[@Kyosumari]

Its still true. AI can only get better for as long as humans are around to copy. They are inherently incapable of improving without human creativity. They cannot make anything truly new, it's all based on a data center ripped from human minds and hands. Even then AI results often still need editing. No matter how advanced, until AI can think for itself, they will never truly replace the human element in all work.

[@DigitalCosmos555]

​@@Kyosumarino human is able to create something new. If you have someone who has never seen or heard of anything that has to do with humanity or the world all you would get the person to make would be lines on a paper. Humans do not create in the vacuum they are influenced. AI works the same way.

[@mandala314]

​@@lauren-fi8scthe trick is to create works that can't be duplicated by 3D printers (so far). Ethan's mom works with pigmented wax, applying & slicing in a way no machine can do!

[@insertnamehere1691]

As a kid, I always felt bad for the people who lost their jobs to machines, and I had always told myself that, at least is humans will always have art. To see something so important to me be taken away truly breaks my heart

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

Not really... Extinction has yet to arrive. And all the gold on the world will not save your kin.

[@millo7295]

Ha

[@seigeengine]

Humans will always have art. It's just that they won't always have art as a job.

[@MaybeMockingbird]

As an author who has penned over 2 MILLION words in the last four years and has clawed my way through the querying trenches to get publication deals and self publish my own books, this stuff is terrifying to me - and my friends who are artists and editors. I HATE this, I'm watching it corrupt the publishing industry before my eyes and I've seen several authors get their contracts cancelled, several editors and designers getting laid off from major publishing companies, for cheap AI BS. The Big 5 are openly admitting to using AI to write new books because it "hits trends faster", because things like BookTok are making the markets shift too fast for actual authors to keep up. It's terrifying, I don't like the fact that I have to compete with mindless technology on top of having to be a social media influencer to get my books seen. I have to add no-AI clauses into my contracts, I've had to withdraw from publication offers from presses that are pushing for AI to be used in the cover and editing. It's soulless and I wish it would stop.

[@nikkireigns]

As someone just getting started…yikes!

[@ShaneBlackheart]

I am in the same boat, although I exclusively self-publish my books. I've published two so far, each costing me about $600+ I already don't have to get them looking their best, only to see the market explode with AI-written garbage and then be lumped in with it because 'it's self-published.' So many of us are getting hurt and losing sales, facing the prospect of losing a grasp on our dreams. I've fallen into a depression just watching all of it unfold, having to work twice as hard through burnout just to prove my stuff is legitimate or worthy.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

I don't care... You played in the game of Devils. This was inevitable, one way or another. AAA Industry/Gaming Industry for me and my industry has lived through this long ago.

[@millo7295]

Soul You're not valid if you preach emotion in why something is bad Laws themselves aren't even about emotion, they're about YOUR OBJECTS

[@Alyx3_art]

As a 17 year old who aspires to be an illustrator/graphic designer, it's genuinely terrifying to see something I have poured my whole life into, be easily replicated in a mater of seconds. To see my life goal disappearing infront of me is a feeling that I can't compare to anything else

[@theodddoggo]

i’m in the same boat. it pains me to think of just how many young artists that have dedicated their lives to the craft and had their entire career path laid out, only to have all of their dreams crushed in a matter of years. the future looks bleak.

[@VileHound]

Keep going and don't give up! The world needs us human artists; art, music, creativity and self expression are such important aspects of being human, we need to keep it alive, no matter how overwhelming and scary ai may seem. Plus, with programs like Nightshade to protect your art, and ai datasets containing more and more ai generated crap, it's only a matter of time before they implode in on themselves and become unusable. Keep going, we WILL survive this!

[@Eekachuu]

I know it's scary, as an artist it's got me pretty freaked out too.. All I can say is to keep at it but also learn traditional techniques and mediums as well, if you aren't already. Things such as hand-drawn illustration, printmaking, and calligraphy. I foresee traditional art and design becoming a much more sought-after commodity as ai progressively takes over digital creative spaces.

[@stephenkrahling1634]

off of the backs of other artists, it's the dystopia in fiction that's now being used as data to make a real dystopia, except less interesting and it makes even less sense....

[@KomikSanz]

It is scary to see all this stuff. Part of me knows it won't happen because human creativity can't be replaced, only imitated, but another part of me also knows that these machine-learning algorithms will be used for scams, misinformation, job automation, tricking people into thinking the art is real...

[@SleuthySocks]

AI is terrible for the environment! Data centers consume tons of energy, water to cool servers, land. Can we be hold tech companies accountable??

[@marlynn2853]

All this, to hear plankton scream sing "My Way" by Frank Sinatra.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

For legalities and legally backed ethics... Everything in power should be on a leash. But for the wrest... Morality is piss in the wind. To define it from West to East of Humanity. Evolve or be left behind... Mankind.

[@DemonFromMel]

the thing that scares me the most is ai being used for political reasons to paint a narrative or spread false information. it's actually terrifying to see fake images or videos of people being injured or evacuating used to gain sympathy for certain groups when it's completely ai generated

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

As if that's new??? Jeez... Humans are their own demise. I can see why AM hates Mankind. Perhaps God will say the same if you mortals stood before him. Evil smiles... Humanity.

[@Vostro-]

No wonder the drone shot one looks so good - it's trained on thousands of hours of stolen footage just like it.

[@alissasmaill7137]

I've heard that Norway legally requires all marketing images to declare if they have been edited/retouched, in an effort to protect young people from unrealistic images of bodies in the media. I think it could similarly be legally required for all images created or edited using AI to have a watermark or something.

[@frozenolafnick5813]

I don’t think they need a water mark, but everyone should HAVE to say that the thing is made with some ai even if it’s for part of the product you’re making. Then we need to say you can’t make you product entirely out of ai so that there is a balance for the use of ai and the hard labor of the human creation. And so it can be something like photoshop, you have the tools but you make the stuff happen more or just use the ai as a sort of “base” if you will.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

Disclaimers... I suppose. Then in exchange... You humans better start innovating instead of wasting time doing nothing but to puke out the same old page time and time again. I demand evolution. Or all human art is but sands in time.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@@frozenolafnick5813 Disclaimers make sense. But your idea of banning 100% automation is unconstitutional in America and worthless if you knew your Maker. Humanity is not special. Otherwise, you must surrender your life for the authority of Humanity. In service to the Emperor of Mankind. Be very careful as to what you stand for... ... ... That's all. Biological Machines...

[@furstkill6865]

I hate having to squint and overanalyze every really detailed drawing I come across. I miss the days I could just see good art and appreciate it without worrying about it being made by multiple stolen images

[@seigeengine]

This is a nonsense opinion. AI art is no more stolen than human art.

[@dmay6637]

whats even worse is that professions in the arts are already seen as illegitimate and criticized for no reason and AI is only going to make that so much worse

[@indievariety]

what we need: 1) protect digital files so that AI can't steal it. 2) make it so that movies can't use AI. 3) make it illegal to sell anything or market anything made by AI

[@frozenolafnick5813]

That would be hard to do because things made by a computer were first made by a human. Like I could see 1 working but negating ai entirely would be hard to do because it’s not entirely made by ai. But we do need better rules around ai or what you can do with ai no doubt.

[@DigitalCosmos555]

Everyone will have access to this tech though there's no way to regulate it. Companies have tried creating detectors in the past but they don't work at all.

[@seigeengine]

It's funny that when a human looks at an image and uses it to produce new images we call it learning, but when an AI does it it's theft.

[@Saucy2112]

We really need some legislation made to prevent the use of ai video in making fake videos of real people doing things they never did. Alongside that it would be great if animation studios went on strike to prevent the use of ai video in the industry. I know I'd be there to support it.

[@GenericProtagonist118]

Yes. 100 times yes. There's probably gonna be some guy who'll reply to you with bummer takes and saying "it's too late" or some variation. BUT FIGHT FOR YOUR THOUGHT, BELIEVE UNTIL IT MANIFESTS!

[@jacksandman3641]

Not to freak you out but have you seen the Audrey Hepburn fuckin Dove commercial???? Shits terrifying and I agree.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

Yes and no... Because AI is a tool even if corporations want to choke on it. Thus, in America, it isn't that black and white. Oh... Or do you mean to treat technology akin to how Religion was enacted in history??? Amusing... That's the hill humans choose? Ha ha ha ha.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@@GenericProtagonist118 No... Legally speaking... Yes and no... In America. Parody, 1A, and art etc... All legal to do with AI because it's a tool. Copyright Infringement, USA Defamation, and actual crimes... Are still illegal. Sorry... But it's not that simple.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@@jacksandman3641 A commercial is a commercial... All legal in America. It's not that simple.

[@unoanus]

the genuinely terrifying implications of these video generation ones are. somehow not obvious to people. but it's especially scary cos there's not much we can do except sit back and see what happens

[@stevetayler9518]

A different aspect, but related. I’m a minutes secretary (so basically I take notes for meetings) and the minutes aren’t just actions or bullet points, but detailed summaries of what has been discussed. Our workplace has just bought into a Microsoft AI called CoPilot. Fortunately….at the moment…it can’t do what we minute-takers do. But I just know that senior management want it to. They’ve outright asked it in meetings with Microsoft reps. Currently I’m rebelling by providing as much negative feedback as possible. But I can feel the inevitability of this happening. Another 5 certainly 10 years, a program like this IS going to be good enough to produce minutes

[@literallythrowing3264]

Don't let them use your work to train it

[@stevetayler9518]

@@literallythrowing3264 I’ll certainly try. The scary thing is that some colleagues genuinely don’t appreciate what a potential threat it is. I feel like a 15th century scribe being asked to test a printing press!

[@literallythrowing3264]

@@stevetayler9518 I'm suprised we still need people for that, honeatly. I hope against hope that all of this is just an easily reversible joke. As an artist, it's frightening. I'm very fortunate to be in a comfortable position financially, and I don't have a job, so I fill my days speaking against rampant ai and other dubious stuff. I just wish I could do more than just talk, talk, talk, talk. If you can afford to do so, please get started on moving to a different field. I hope you will be okay!

[@questionablesalad5350]

the most important aspect of ai “art” is that it uses stolen artwork from across the internet, taking people’s work without their consent so it can be fed it into a machine that could feasibly take their job by using that stolen work.

[@NeonVisual]

Wrong, AI art does exactly what humans do. It looks at other art and tries to interpret it to create something new in whatever context you've asked of it. There aren't any human artists who've never looked at other art to inform their own style, it's literally the entire purpose of art. AI works by literally simulating the way the human brain works in forming connections. It's simply automation and mass production like everything else we consume. If you want hand made goods then you can still buy them, just as if you wanted some CG artwork made by hand and not mass produced.

[@NeonVisual]

By the way, I'm a VFX artist...

[@fuckman122]

@@NeonVisual what an unnecessary way of reiterating the point that ai steals artwork from real, human creators who spent hours/days creating their own artwork and did not consent to their art being used to feed a machine that's going to be used to steal their jobs

[@KomikSanz]

@@NeonVisual it really doesn't, imo. We humans have the special ability to "think outside the box" in a way. To be able to perceive things and think up NEW concepts from the things we perceive. "AI" can't do that. It's very straightforward, and cold in its aproach. It can only mix and mash pixels together based on pre-existing data, and what it creates is usually empty and soul-less. We want SOUL in our art! Even the term "AI" is a bit misleading, it's really machine-learning and algorithms that pull from things we've already created! It's not some sentient robot about to "take over the world," it's a tool. And a tool can't do all the work for you. The optimist in me really doesn't believe that "AI" will completely take over art. It may cause lots of issues, and may change the way we create and think of art (like care more about how it's made instead of what it looks like), but I highly doubt that it'll take art in the same way it'll automate jobs.

[@stephenkrahling1634]

@@NeonVisual AI does not function without other people's work, it's not "simulating how the human brain works" it's just predicting what an actual human would do AI does not learn on it's own, if all AI across the world stopped getting new data they would never get better, and would continually recycle the same ideas over and over again. If you leave an artist on their own they will naturally improve over time, because they have their own preferences, experiences, and they will eventually have a unique style that an AI would not know how to make... unless you fed it their hard work, and claimed it as your own

[@tetherhandle]

as an artist the ai shit is terrifying and absolutely enraging. your microwave analogy works perfectly, all that comes out of ai is just unimaginative slop that's just a mess of copyright infringement and microplastics, not to mention its carbon footprint is literally astronomical

[@cruisematt8585]

So illustrators, animators, writers,actors, photographers, graphic designers, models, set designers, etc are all going to be out of work - it is absolutely terrifying

[@spilledmilk5316]

Coding might be replaced too

[@mrwendigo3374]

It's like Detroit become human all over again

[@appleschloss]

I think just- AI couldnt exist WITHOUT the art input from real people. They just get ripped off and no credit for the work that was stolen while AI does it for cheap to free.

[@seigeengine]

As if any human artist has never seen the work of any other artist before, and didn't learn from them.

[@appleschloss]

@seigeengine another human cant churn out ""art"" in seconds, and humans have their own unique ideas. AI will only ever know what its been hand fed and even then it doesnt *understand* what its seeing. It doesnt know the letter in the image make words because it cant read the data of an image and see text. Its soulless. Its theft. What's the point of being here if we can't create and enjoy? Why are we wanting machines to take this away from us?

[@kaiuniverse876]

The scary thing is no matter how much we tell them ai made stuff is shit, it costs less. So they dont care

[@skylofter6840]

its only shit cause it hasnt been given the tools to become better. If we stop fearing the technology and focusing on only the bad itd be in a much better place today then it is now. Luckily this wont go the way of nuclear power (with everyone fearing it so much we dont use it) cause ai is unstoppable and the sooner everyone accepts that the better itll be for everyone.

[@robertwright8306]

Your analogy makes perfect sense. One that I use is, If I wanted to have a painting in my house, I would rather have a one-of-a-kind painting made by an artist rather than one I printed from an Ai. Because the painting from the artist would have a story behind it. It would mean something as it hangs it my house. There is no story behind the Ai generated image.

[@klaudiso]

You're one of the creators on YT sphere actually speaking about the issues and dangers of genAI, thank you Ethan

[@circus.t3ddy]

my favorite thing to say when it comes to this topic it should act as a TOOL, NOT a REPLACEMENT

[@nevaeh9125]

Stuff like what DougDoug does with his A.I voices and characters. He uses them as a tool to make some streams more interesting. Doug only uses fictional character voices or his own voice to create A.I voices. But when he used his friend's voices, he's asked for permission to use it. Doug did mess up and use A.I art for his Twitch Chat Plays DnD for the characters but he doesn't anymore. He instead reaches out to actual artists now and I'm happy he learned from his mistake.

[@natrosenquist]

There is a LOT of AI generated content on YT. So many conspiracy channels are just AI generated script and voice, along with random stock footage/images.

[@J3ttr3x_13]

it's actually crazy, I just did a presentation in class today about this because I wanna go into the art industry. on top of that it takes over jobs, it uses so much water and it's going to send the planet into a severe water crisis

[@christine9908]

My big question about all of this is WHY AREN’T WE USING THIS TECHNOLOGY FOR DOING THE JOBS THAT NOBODY WANTS TO DO. Like why are they going after creative jobs instead of stuff like desk jobs. Like I did an internship where all I did was generate reports and combine them into one big report with all the data that the bosses needed to see over the years. I will say that bing’s ai is pretty good for helping me as an engineering student. I can ask it to help me understand problems better than my professor can. And it gives me links to where the information is derived from, so I can click on a link to a more detailed website and learn more. I will never use it’s image generator though. I PREFER TO MAKE SHITTY PHOTOSHOP IMAGES MYSELF.

[@lupusdirus]

Exactly this! It feels so incredibly insidious that they're going after creative endeavours, things that are considered deeply human endeavours, things we love to do and often do for enjoyment or as a hobby instead of trying to create AI that actually makes our lives easier. It's very clear that the whole plan here is just to make the rich richer, and keep the rest of us tired and complacent

[@pocketbeetle3126]

YES omg it's so telling that nothing is safe. It's just about the money and power over the masses. If it weren't, then AI would be one of the most beneficial things to be invented. It could solve so many problems, free up people's time and take them out of soul-sucking jobs so they could pursue something that fulfills them but no, that would involve not stealing more money and wellness from everyone and they just don't wanna stop because profit. It was never for the people, it never is

[@DemiroseCrab]

AI supporters are like "scared your job will be taken? Learn to code then." Dude, AI can already code, and coders have already started losing jobs. The only people a system that the development of AI benefits is the 1%.

[@pokegard]

Plus ai can’t do quality control meaning that the more systems are replaced by it the more vulnerable things will become(if I am not mistaken)

[@DemiroseCrab]

@skylofter6840 What do you mean "not in its field"? Literally every job at some point will be replaced by a robot or an AI.

[@pokegard]

@@skylofter6840 fair, but the problem isn’t ai itself it is irresponsible people, you wouldn’t want people to make a bunch of nuclear power plants before we figure out how to contain the radiation

[@skylofter6840]

@@DemiroseCrab thats the hope considering if given time ai will do everything us humans can do but so much better

[@skylofter6840]

@@pokegard sure but the fact that we cant build any power plants cause the society as a whole is against it means that those plants will never get better and will never be allowed to create goodness for us as humans. And yes that analogy works for both nuclear and Ai

[@UndeadlyBat]

"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they 'could', they didn't stop to think if they 'should'."

[@ThiccJesusGaming]

We are just speedrunning dystopia at this point. The worse thing is, even if everyone lost their job because of this, there would almost certainly be no form of universal income for people to live on because all of their skills are being done for essentially free. It could potentially cause increase in crimes and homelessness from people forced to quit jobs who could lose their homes. No one who is in a position to deal with the issue couldn't be bothered because they're the ones who are benefiting from it, making the rich richer in yet another way.

[@KailTirasleen]

It'll have to get to a point where those displaced people will have to riot and demand change.

[@pocketbeetle3126]

Yep it says a lot that this outcome is almost guaranteed, along with people being forced to compromise their standards by supporting it just to survive :(

[@ireymm]

15:49 They already do, with pictures or videos of children, actual literal babies, it's disgusting and terrifying.

[@randomrat3150]

my dream is to be a concept artist. I'm 18. I fear i will never be able to live and work a job that I'm happy in because of AI, and the creative fields that have sustained human connection in society will be taken over by ai completely, and that's fucking TERRIFYING.

[@spilledmilk5316]

Me too, my dream is to be an animator. It’s so sad.

[@bluesunset5176]

The worst possible thing that could happen at this point and I feel like no one talks about enough is, governments and military using advanced AI. Governments using fake politicians, leaders etc… And for military, the story “I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream” tells us that possible near perfectly.

[@kattriesgames]

This can be used to RUIN people. Imagine all of the grape videos or SA content that can be made for someone's twisted fun/enjoyment : ( That's what scares me the most. I will ALWAYS love nature and real life more than any "perfect creation" of it, but the thing that scares me is the quick and easy way someone could make HORRID things of ANYONE for literally any reason.....

[@bazzle.dazzle]

currently when trying to audition for things you have to sign a contract saying you will allow them to use your image and voice in perpetuity. this means they essentially own your face and voice and can do whatever they want with it. they can reuse someones face and voice 10 years later for an entirely different project and the actual person wont see a penny. this contract has be be signed BEFORE you even audition. insane

[@xath3nax]

All I could think about while watching this video was the Taylor Swift AI photos that went viral across Twitter. They were sickening and I can’t imagine how she could’ve felt if she came across them.

[@Randomartdoodles]

Watching AI Art take over all sorts of spaces makes me FURIOUS as an older artist (22 is old in internet standards lol). Watching these HUGE companies take what could have been work experience, jobs, commissions from all sorts of artists, and THEN produce art that is just objectively BAD is just like a slap in the face that you can't do much about.

[@spilledmilk5316]

Off topic but it’s insane old is now 20 LMAO like I read “old artist” and I thought oh they must be like idk 50-60. Then read 22 😭 This is sickening indeed, as an artist too I get so mad at people constantly defending Ai. My brother is an Ai bro and I try to make him understand why it upsets me and he just won’t understand ITS FRUSTRATING

[@dusty_space_milk8893]

I think it’s interesting how before generative AI became this advanced, our idea of “AI taking over the world” was more along the lines of giant robots like the terminator coming to kill us all. Now we’re getting to a reality where “AI taking over” means millions of writers, illustrators, camera people, editors, actors, singers, animators, graphic designers and so many more are going to lose their jobs to AI. As an aspiring author and artist myself, this is terrifying and it feels like I might as well give up on my dreams bc AI will always be able to do it better, faster, and cheaper than me and greedy corporations will always chose that.

[@nin10ja]

nothing with good intent will ever be made from this.

[@madiroller]

The future is depressing and it sucks. The dream of being a creative for me an artist professionally will eventually only be that. A dream.

[@SparkySpork]

Why are we letting this happen?? This is genuinely scary

[@imcherylynn]

Thing is…AI could have probably been something incredibly useful and valuable in this day and age, but now it’s turned into something that’s just…taking away from everything. Admittedly I’ve used the art ones for fun or boredom, but I would never try to use it to pass that off for real art - as I do make my own actual art. I just know that it could to continue to overshadow those who’ve made whole careers out of these things that AI is constantly getting better at. Can’t even begin to tell you how many music videos I’ve seen that were entirely AI generated.

[@dls1960]

Looks like my animation career is over 💀

[@Bordie3D]

nuu do it anyway.

[@Taradoxxi]

No it’s not. People will always want some thing made by a real human being instead of churned out by a machine.

[@GenericProtagonist118]

DO NOT GIVE UP DAMMIT!!!!!!!!

[@Saucy2112]

Same here, I'm literally in school to learn how to animate and i have two years left

[@jll2001so]

Everything is horrifying about this situation. But good news is that indie animation is booming right now. This might even make indie animators more desirable in the long term. Who knows. Anyway, keeping pushing... do what you love and do it well. ❤️‍🔥

[@appleschloss]

The point I've thought about the most is like, AI should take away hard labor, not hobbies and passions (i think this being in an Ideal World where we could have universal pay if AI is doing all of the jobs) I'm just more scared for like... the ability to just, never hire anyone and continue to fuck with the economy

[@GenericProtagonist118]

Exactly, instead they've been adamant on doing literally the exact opposite.

[@kover975]

Yeah, I 100% agree with the ideal of hard labor over labor of love for technical innovation like this. In the real world, there's no practical reasoning to make this distinction, so it's not gonna be made, which does kinda suck. What sucks more though is what you've mentioned already about the current state of the economy and our societal economic systems and how inadequate they are for deal with a labourless world - technology shifts and society may need to shift with it, but who can say they trust modern society to shift in a positive direction when it relates to anything surrounding our outdated definitions of societal value?

[@Xaurii]

Ai creations lack passion- every piece of art/media has passion behind it. AI can never show that

[@Drynkmarkedges]

Its literally crazy how we went from nokias to AI.

[@zackfirex1009]

AI art and Human art WILL become indiscernible, eventually. Jobs WILL be lost, yes - but those who continue to value the beauty of Human creation will keep Human art profitable. It is through our own shared empathy of our existence that we can find the power to break this chain, and create something special that lives beyond ourselves.

[@GenericProtagonist118]

PREACH AS LOUDLY AS YOU CAN. SPAM IT IF YOU HAVE TO. If it's a chain to be broken then let's break it.

[@littlemissemila1818]

Agreed

[@junebunny0712]

Many people already do not value art as is, nor do they value it as a genuine profession. They want an end result and usually they want it for free unfortunately.

[@FatherSpencer]

People that want to ruin somebody's life will have access to this and will use it to do harm. AI can be weaponized so easily, and there's very little we can do to regulate that

[@ivy666quinn]

I really hope we do NOT advance AI to the point of humans being unnecessary. Also not to the point of AI becoming self aware enough to want to eradicate humanity...

[@sgtanous4782]

It won't. This artificial "intelligence" still needs the resources on the internet, and completely depends on it. Real artificial intelligence is at the same level as ftl and immortality, a forever science fiction.

[@KomikSanz]

Like the reply above me said, yeah it won't become sentient. We don't even understand how our own brains and consiousness work, so how can we make an artificial brain/conciousness?

[@E96111]

​@KomikSanz Incomplete understanding doesn't mean we can't make it. We made and used fire for thousands of years before we figured out the chemistry of combustion.

[@marlynn2853]

I seriously doubt it'd ever become self aware. A.I's purpose is to copy what has already been created. The chance of it being able to do its own thing is extremely low.

[@rainydayarts6323]

It won’t become self aware, but the rich get richer and people will lose their jobs due to corporate greed!

[@uwuziel]

Thank you for speaking up on this topic. As frustrating as it has been trying to get people aware of this and for it to get this far, its better late than never. There is still time for regulation. I would love to see you talk about AI influencers, being an influencer yourself.

[@ferniferousfern]

I feel like, to some extent, AI advancement could be slowed down if there was some level of legal regulation to it; i.e. you need a license to use certain programs like Sora, and getting that license involves passing an ethics class or something. However, at this point the cat's out of the bag, the only way that could still be viable is if *all* AI is shut down from their sources, and made inaccessible to the public without legal approval, and let's face it: laws mean jack shit here in the US, it's about as likely to be safely regulated as guns. Welcome to the cyberpunk dystopia that is 2024.

[@thunderb2473]

The way the AI person at 10:48 does a little skip and then SWAPS LEGS makes me want to throw up 😦

[@spilledmilk5316]

Okay this video and the whole topic made me sad as an artist but this made me laugh a bit LMAO ty for pointing it out 😭🫶

[@amzoeyh2002]

Me and my friends could not believe how many AI ads there were for the super bowl. it was filled with AI and Temu. Dystopian as fuck

[@maria_louise505]

It's all disgusting. As an English major/ art minor who loves writing, reading, and drawing, I hate where we are heading. Also from a philosophical standpoint, this is taking the human out of humanity.

[@Cryovore]

This is so creepy and it will probably be our future....

[@lowstamina_arts]

As an artist that is doing classes I really appreciated this video! AI is getting out of hand and as a young artist it scares me and worries me about my future job choices! I really hope they make it so AI is illegal to use in professional work or something that restrains these AI people!

[@smallgator]

The only thing that can protect peoples future employment is legislation. Force these companies to atleast include an AI watermark on generated content.

[@NeonVisual]

Yeah that's like workers throwing their shoes in factory machines because the automation "took their job". No, the factory machines took those rubbish repetitive jobs in which people had to work like robots in the first place. Automation raises everyone's quality of life over time, it's why we live in the comfort we do today with running water, food, electricity, the device you're using to read this, medicine etc. AI is exactly the same kind of automation we've been continually making more and more complicated since the industrial revolution. Stop behaving like progress is a threat, and look at how many fools have had that same mindset over the last several hundred years.

[@birdboy16]

That seems fair

[@kazifiiiied]

@@NeonVisualhow is making art a robotic and sluggish job?

[@NeonVisual]

@@kazifiiiied No idea what you're talking about son.

[@WellDalel]

thank u for making a video addressing this.. this stuff needs to get regulated or banned altogether, im so over it..

[@typ3ikilla741]

i love you eef, thank you for always being there when things get hard

[@DubThirtyThr33]

As a tattoo artist, I personally feel for the other artists, but there's a huge part of me that is so glad my art won't be affected by AI

[@cooliostarstache5474]

Automated tattoo guns

[@Eekachuu]

We may not have robot tattooists yet but I see ai generated tattoo art all the time. My partner showed me one recently as an "example" of what he'd like to get if he ever got a tattoo. There's a good chance that, if you ever tattoo other ppl's designs, that someone will or has brought in an ai generated tatt design.

[@DubThirtyThr33]

@@Eekachuu I mean people bring in their own art, other people's art, I've probably done some ai generated art on people, I'm just there as the medium to get any art onto their skin in a safe way

[@DubThirtyThr33]

@@cooliostarstache5474 I would definitely know about that by now

[@Eekachuu]

​@@DubThirtyThr33What I got from that is that you're not concerned about ppl not commissioning tattooists to *make* the art so long as there is no automation of the actual tattooing process?

[@lianneconroy5289]

It's not only the film and music industry. Self-checkout registers are putting cashiers out of work. Robots can stock shelves in stores and supermarkets. They're doing your shopping off Amazon shelves. They have robots that do surgery. Manufacturing jobs there have been tons of layoffs because of robots and AI. What jobs will be left for actual people?

[@Residenthoodedcrow]

3:57 whenever someone asks me what I want to do after I graduate I say “I’d like to do concept art and story boards for animated movies/shows/comics stuff like that.” This just made my stomach drop.

[@sitkinator]

9:28 Corridor's reputation and goodwill from the KZbin community has really suffered in recent times due to their constant use and praise of AI, especially after their Rock, Paper Scissors "anime". It especially sucks cause they used to be one of the best channels on the platform, and were one of Markiplier's big inspirations. To see them stoop to the AI trend sucks, and especially for Corridor fans in the art community.

[@xaliagorvitts1305]

One of the things I haven't heard many people talk about is how these developments in AI affect artist motivation. Even if you had the financial security to just do as much art as you wanted- after long hours of labor you sit back and ask yourself... why? What was the point? Why do it the true way, when it can be done the easy way? It eats you up inside, and doesn't give you the motivation to get better. It must feel horrible to be a kid learning art these days- a computer can draw better than you can in a fraction of the time. It's terrible.

[@spilledmilk5316]

Exactly :(

[@oreosandacid]

I work at a veterinary clinic and my doctor discovered an AI program that can create all medical records just from the dr.s verbal exam. This is nearly half our job. I’m convinced more and more people will be replaced.

[@Taradoxxi]

Oh Jesus Christ, my blood is running cold watching this.

[@GenericProtagonist118]

Same, brother.

[@Hemkesa]

Im a 3D artist, and as a junior who already lost her job last year due to the strikes, this is genuinely terrifying. When youre a trained artist you can tell based on movement and nuances in the art, but most people cant, and the clients and bigwigs dont care. juniors will be the first to be replaced, to the detriment of the industry. even if it all looks like shit, people will only take a glance at it on social media and thats already enough to misinform and poison the well. unless they include a big ass unremovable watermark on their videos, itll be rly bad. all this and not even acknowledging the crazy environmental impact all this ai stuff has.

[@NikkiDimesYT]

2:28 Slight correction, they aren't working on DALL-E 2. DALL-E 3 is available right now and it's scary good. DALL-E 4 is, presumably, next.

[@mandala314]

It's ironic we have AI to create countless artworks, while the arts are deemed least important in our educational systems. An exciting picture is attractive. But knowing how hard it was to create, that's the soul of the art.

[@oldpetyt2289]

I remember the news talking about how someone basically ruined someone's life from a deepfake video, and seeing what it can do really is terrifying. Imagine one day you go outside to grab stuff from the store, and you get accused of doing something, when in reality, it was just an ai generated video, that you had no idea existed.

[@maxfox6903]

what's really scary is that if AI art gets to a certain point school industries are gonna be like "well what's the point of having art universities anymore" since AI would take everything over, AI literally has a chance of shutting art schools down and that's horrifying, not to mention that AI could in itself somehow worm it's way into education in general, putting teachers jobs at risk too.

[@xeropulse5745]

I started on a rant about the difference between Ai images vs. art, and I got so into it that the philosophy lecturer (who is also a big art film director here in Ireland) left the room, and as he was leaving said "This is too deep for me. I'll come back when yer done." Then left me at the front of the room to shout all I wanted about the ethical problems, and how it's not truly art on a fundamental level.

[@m0061]

This is really freaky- one of the worst parts in my opinion is that people who suggest we don't need to pay for art, or that AI can replace artist just don't understand art. It breaks my heart that an AI tech bro would haggle with artists to get their price down (a legit thing I've seen) because "Well I can just get it done for free by AI so do you want $5 for an hour of work or not". And it infuriates me because you should be paying artists for their time!! That's LITERALLY why MOST jobs are paid by hour, you do an hour of work, you get paid a rate for that. And SHOULD be true for art. If you pay $100 for a few hours of work, that makes sense across MOST careers, because you're paying for TIME. Time this person spent making a script, a graphic, building a house, doing surgery- literally across all kinds of careers. And it's just horrifying that art is so DEVALUED by these people, so that they only care about the end product. Newsflash, whatever the end product of someone working on- that isn't what you pay for- its the time and effort that took hours for that work to be completed!!

[@joorff1351]

This exact topic is the only thing I’ve ever argued with my girlfriend about. As an artist, I am very passionate about trying to help people learn to make their own work, but she was having trouble with drawing, and was saying about how she wants AI to improve more because she hates that some artists charge a lot for commissions and would insist that I didn’t understand when I’d explain how a lot of artists need money from commissions just to make ends meet, and it scares me seeing to see that there are people who will just use that artist’s work to train an AI so they don’t have to commission someone

[@schmittenanimations179]

Changing your mind that you don't like a piece after finding out it's AI is basically the same as changing your mind about liking something when you find out the work was plagiarized or that the creator is a shitty person. It's absolutely valid to suddenly dislike something when you get extra context about how it was made or the person who made it. If I read a book, liked it, then found out the author lifted basically the whole story from someone else, I would no longer like that book and even further would want to go support the person they lifted the material from.

[@GenericProtagonist118]

Preach.

[@literallythrowing3264]

If I bought a shirt, then discovered it was made in a sweatshop, I don't like it anymore!

[@xXESproductionsXx]

Very fair point. If you like someone who plays a competitive game for a living and found out that they use an aimbot, the value of the content becomes lessened. Same thing with AI art.

[@cvspvr]

that's pretty hypocritical though. it's fine to change your mind about liking how the art was made, but the art itself is still the same. you see celebrities or youtubers getting cancelled for the slightest thing all the time, which is a very disingenuous and childish thing to do. if you can't accept that something is both good and bad, then you don't actually like it, you just like what you want it to be

[@literallythrowing3264]

@@cvspvr @cvspvr Art stands for something though. Every piece of "art" made by ai represents the thousands of real artists being taken advantage of, the greed of corporations, it represents the potential downfall of all creative work everywhere, which is the downfall of humanity itself. If I like a painting, then find out that the meaning behind the painting is, "racism good", I still like how the painting *looks* , but I dont like *the painting* . I can like the colors, the technical skill, every aspect of the painting, but I dont like the meaning, so I don't like the painting. Good art can come from evil, but I cannot force myself to like something I don't like.

[@yelisey5652]

I saw a tiktok a few hours ago with something along the lines of "Me watching an ai generated video of me committing a crime i never did in court", and it had me thinking, with how accurate ai is getting it's not entirely impossible for a scenario for that to happen and it is so scary to think about.

[@WilliamHollister]

Art is a medium for one or more humans to connect and communicate... but if an AI made it then it's a one-sided conversation. Part of enjoying art is thinking about the artist and what they were feeling; what they want me to feel; and what the artist is saying through their art. Our current level of AI lacks the sentience necessary for us to make those connections.

[@icarr380]

We need more discussion on this. It’s a really scary thought and I hope it doesn’t happen in the creative industries. Theres something in making a piece of art, story or movie that is made by a human that is just recognisably beautiful. Like “Hey I put my heart and soul into this thing I made for all you to enjoy”.

[@loudestcloud]

As a victim of CSA, Ai has always made me worried about what my dad could do to images of me but until this year, I could always put the thoughts to bed because 'Its not that believable, it's fine' but now? He can do so much more to me than he did in the first place

[@clowncarradio]

as an art student who is going into concept design, it is genuinely terrifying about corporations using ai. on a fundamental level, no one can replace human art, there's always a soul behind the art piece. but corporations care about things being cheap, and no matter how good you are, if ai is cheaper, they're going to go for ai. hell, our own school, which is one of the top rated art schools in the us, has events were they talk about ai being used. its terrifying, but all we can do is hope things wont go south

[@SlavaZone]

Once Etsy went public, it was flooded with dropshipped items. Now it's flooded with AI generated art. It is SO difficult to support real artists now! I have to go into the "about" page, see if they even have any info about why they love art (many are blank if an AI page), and then see if they link to their social media and have videos of their process. As an artist myself, I understand the hours of work and natural talent it takes to be an artist. And I hate that any bro can just sell thousands of prints that a machine made. They can be constantly adding new pieces to their webstore, while someone who has to actually draw/paint/render may only be able to release a new print a few times a month. There are SO many "how to open an AI print shop" videos. And current policies don't require people to list if they used a generator. SO terribly sad for those who try to make a living off the art they actually put efford into 😢

[@rydertheoutsider]

I'm a film major and seeing this come out has given me sleepless nights of me thinking that I might be studing for nothing

[@leahrachelle.]

i feel like to some degree this is going to ruin people’s perceptions of art as creative expression and it’s historical portrayal of human emotion, ideas, poetic meaning, and abstract thought. some future generation of art historians are going to have a field day with this

[@Elise.08]

Ngl it’s kinda scary what AI can do…

[@spicyprovolone4986]

I saw a post where someone put it perfectly; why is this technology making the creative shit for the boring people, instead of doing the boring shit for the creative people

[@MoonCloud101]

Thank you Ethan for talking about this. People are so starstruck by the power of AI that they don't realize the horrors of it. Many, /many/ people will be out of jobs in the coming future. It's people like you who can raise awareness of the monstrosities AI can bring

[@TobleroneTobi]

It scares me that AI’s functions keep advancing super fast

[@Myapieya]

Ive always wanted to do something in Art as a career and i'm finally back in college to get a degree in Graphic Art at 32 years old. Its so disheartening because am i wasting my time and money for a dream i finally thought im worthy enough to do? It scares me because i've been doing crappy jobs and then having no energy to draw or other creative things and i want to better myself with something I love to help take care of myself and my loved ones. It literally feels like being in limbo.

[@artsyapple6509]

Seeing someone popular in media have the best take on this and educate people, is a breath of fresh air. Us smaller people don't have to work as hard whenever this happens. Thank you Eef. ❤

[@Annathevirgo]

I love that someone who's a creator on the internet actually agrees with being truly very skeptical and basically refusing to give AI the attention everyone gives it. It's not a good thing at all. It's going to ruin everything, just like the title says.

[@itaroons]

the metaphor you were searching for was "imagine if instead of giving you a personally cooked lovely meal, they dropped a pile of food in front of you and said 'i stole this from some nearby restaurants, enjoy!'" couldnt agree more that ai overall will do more harm than good

[@tenchi5557]

Didn't notice it the first time I saw the video but the video of the lady walking down the street, her feet switch places a few times. It's really creepy. Like she takes a step with her right foot (viewer's left) and then as it goes back it is suddenly on her left side as her left foot. As far as my opinion, it's all interesting but it's being built on the backs of artists and creators who did not consent to the use of their work. There also should be safeguards to protect jobs and we likely are going to need changes to copyright law to protect artists from having their art and even style stolen by AI systems. None of this though has an easy solution.

[@freezingreign3869]

The Stanley Parable's narrator voice actor spoke out against AI copies of his voice because his voice is his entire job that people pay him for, but now people can steal his work for nothing.

[@skycloud9512]

I genuinely don't understand why AI developers are so hellbent on making art, instead of making tools to help people out

[@S.B.C-Pixi]

Imagine trying to be an accountant in the modern era

[@triang-master6047]

Bruh it’s so over and I haven’t even started

[@GenericProtagonist118]

Do not give up, EVER!

[@bimpus.dimpus]

it will be interesting to see how the government goes about making laws associated with AI

[@WrathOfTheHydra]

It's taken me a lot longer to find someone else that's having the same reaction to the text-to-video stuff. Some people have gotten the horror of it, but the vast majority of people I've talked to I think just haven't processed what they're seeing, and don't understand the implication. The astronaut, bird, and historical Chicago footage are one's that get under my skin the most with how real they look and the implicative nature of their use. Thank you for sharing your perspective with people, I really appreciate more voices coming out about how damaging this can be.