This is the END of Apple.

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@NikiasMolina
@NikiasMolina Жыл бұрын
TECH VIDEO OF THE YEAR.
@charvlim5159
@charvlim5159 Жыл бұрын
It’s Tim Apple too,. Don’t forget… 😅
@kelvinst_dev
@kelvinst_dev Жыл бұрын
Definitely! This video gave me chills! Jon went from the official Apple leaker with good humor to a top tech video maker. And I’m glad he didn’t lose that humorous side too. Will never miss one of his videos again (at least while he keeps delivering these gems)
@MiltonBetts
@MiltonBetts Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mhelfstein1
@mhelfstein1 Жыл бұрын
I say stop selling apple products in the EU’s 27 countries.
@mastersili
@mastersili Жыл бұрын
truth
@machinainc5812
@machinainc5812 Жыл бұрын
USB-C and future removable batteries are very welcome changes. Fighting against it is peak apple fanboyism. Having said that, obviously there has to be a line when it comes to opening the echo system software wise.
@kimpenado931
@kimpenado931 Жыл бұрын
Ecosystem*
@ViktorDelevski
@ViktorDelevski Жыл бұрын
we don't care bout your `merican values over here
@sprinkleddonuts6094
@sprinkleddonuts6094 Жыл бұрын
Maybe for you… i do not want to swap batteries. That was flip phone days. And it is the SOLE REASON why I didn’t get a Galaxy S 3. I instead stuck with apple and got my 2nd iPhone the 5… I do not want an android experience on my iPhone.
@ViktorDelevski
@ViktorDelevski Жыл бұрын
@@sprinkleddonuts6094 so just don't swap em. also, androids have fixed too, for years now
@sprinkleddonuts6094
@sprinkleddonuts6094 Жыл бұрын
@@ViktorDelevski nah i want a phone like i have now… you guys can go buy an android that you CAN REPLACE the battery
@MichaelMarquez-m3b
@MichaelMarquez-m3b Жыл бұрын
As Mr. Spock once remarked “sauce for the goose”. I don’t know about the EU but in the US we have had antitrust laws for at least 100 years. Companies like AT&T and IBM were forced to open their platforms to their competitors. Companies like Apple and Microsoft benefitted from that. It is fine to hold a position against all antitrust laws and actions but not to apply the same laws only to some companies and let others get a free pass.
@Sunderas
@Sunderas Жыл бұрын
Exactly! The guy in this video acts like an offended virgin. I would even say he has a stake in the company, but probably not. Just another offended person from the Apple camp.
@mahlonmills1848
@mahlonmills1848 Жыл бұрын
nuh uh
@SchweinerSchinkler
@SchweinerSchinkler Жыл бұрын
@@Sunderas what?
@MaticTheProto
@MaticTheProto Жыл бұрын
Yeah but he just likes to be a crybaby
@netvisionz
@netvisionz 9 ай бұрын
I think they are paid licensing fees for their tech. This isn’t the same thing. Forcing Apple to use usb-c is different. Although Symbian OS was open source the EU didn’t tell them what features or standards to adopt.
@Lachlan_McDougall
@Lachlan_McDougall Жыл бұрын
The MacBook has side loading without an issue. I’m sure they can manage the iPhone without it loosing their identity
@tocj
@tocj Жыл бұрын
True but you'll notice they're more macbooks with spyware and viruses as compared to the iPhone. Ro me it seems that the EU wants to open everything about the apples ecosystem like the same way they do to their borders
@nyanyamero
@nyanyamero Жыл бұрын
True, the exaggerations in this video is unreal. 😂
@neobow1
@neobow1 Жыл бұрын
The problem lies in the potential consequences of allowing side loading on the number 1 phone in the U.S. When this happens, it opens the door for companies whose primary business model revolves around tracking and monetizing user data, such as Meta and Google. They can circumvent the App Store, which is known for its stringent privacy regulations enforced by Apple. A notable example is when Apple implemented changes that required apps to request user consent for tracking, resulting in a significant blow to Meta's stock. Meta, like other data-centric companies, would go to great lengths to avoid such privacy restrictions. The concern here is that we may end up with a situation similar to a cluttered Windows gaming PC, where different game launchers like EA, Epic Games, Riot Games, Blizzard, and more are scattered all over. This could lead to a fragmented and less secure user experience on our smartphones, which is far from ideal.
@agprime
@agprime Жыл бұрын
​@neobow1 no one tracks and use your data to generate revenue more than APPLe 😂😂😂 Apple is all up in your personal stuff so what are you talking about? Iphones are not private as apple uses your information the way they want and you cannot change anything about it so stop it.
@lilybun2
@lilybun2 Жыл бұрын
@@neobow1mac doesn’t have this problem and it does great w sideloading
@donDanDeNiro
@donDanDeNiro Жыл бұрын
This is the worst take on tech regulations. If you were actually in the tech industry you would know that these policies are sustainable.
@kekagiso
@kekagiso 10 ай бұрын
It's amazing listening to the mind of apple fans trying to justify the company's decisions.
@donDanDeNiro
@donDanDeNiro 10 ай бұрын
@@kekagiso are you trynna say that Apple cannot make good decisions?
@kekagiso
@kekagiso 10 ай бұрын
@@donDanDeNiro I'm talking about justifying decisions that are ultimately bad for the customer.
@rohithkumarbandari
@rohithkumarbandari 9 ай бұрын
Finally someone makes sense
@cinebenjamin
@cinebenjamin 8 ай бұрын
Totally agreed. Going down the walled garden approach only harms users and stifles innovation. We've already seen it... smartphones are boring because there is no competition.
@alexioannidis3111
@alexioannidis3111 Жыл бұрын
No Jon you lost me with this one. Apple is and will continue to be successful because of their tight integration between hardware and software paired with unparalleled attention to detail. Not because of their monopolistic and anticompetitive practices. Competition drives innovation. Switching to usb-c was a great move for consumers and be able to sideload apps will be a great win for everyone especially developers. Apple will be fine they worth one trillion dollars after all
@fablewalls
@fablewalls Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the video has some basic facts completely wrong too - the EU is not a government.
@Pym1975
@Pym1975 Жыл бұрын
Actually you are incorrect the EU is in fact a government just not a single state, they are in principle a Representative Democracy, and in fact have their own executive, legislative and judicial branches and each member state agrees to follow the laws set forth by the EU parliament.
@thomas_xsg
@thomas_xsg Жыл бұрын
And how is that integration between hard and software going to work if we can sideload and app or appstore on an iphone as what the EU wants? We'll end up with an Android phone.
@thomas_xsg
@thomas_xsg Жыл бұрын
And as for the competition argument, competition is what we have now. Not when everyone is forced to be the same.
@rrowans
@rrowans 10 ай бұрын
@@thomas_xsg Apple is most likely going to make it a setting that you have to manually switch on to allow sideloading on an iPhone. Sideloading is on the Mac and that has worked perfectly fine for many years, what's the big difference with the iPhone? Sideloading is only a win for the consumer and the developer.
@SayuIchi
@SayuIchi 10 ай бұрын
I‘m a iPhone user. I ask for this. And after the news of their malicious compliance I hope the DMA gets even more strict and broader in range (to include more big companies that threaten open source devs and fan-organized activities).
@XashA12Musk
@XashA12Musk 10 ай бұрын
and i'm with you
@Aether-Entropy
@Aether-Entropy 9 ай бұрын
Yep. This is a smooth brain take from FPT.
@XashA12Musk
@XashA12Musk 9 ай бұрын
@@Aether-Entropy brain take means??
@hofkingpin3216
@hofkingpin3216 9 ай бұрын
@@XashA12Muskit’s “smooth brain” take, just means a terrible take without looking at many sides or just sticking to their own beliefs
@jacobsnyder8746
@jacobsnyder8746 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, this isn't about consumer choice. It was about the environment and how Apple is causing people to buy chargers separate from the universal standard that Androids bring. I believe this is more about creating a seamless experience for everyone regardless of the device they own.
@ivantsy9181
@ivantsy9181 Жыл бұрын
Yep, it would've been awsome to ban single-use plastics on the EU level as well!
@jasonrahming946
@jasonrahming946 Жыл бұрын
Even if its was for that reason for some of the corporations you give them an inch they take a mile and if this was a test to see if they could make apple do it even if it’s for the reason you stated they will go after a lot more
@Kufd00m
@Kufd00m Жыл бұрын
You get a cable in the box and almost everyone nowdays uses a usb-c brick, don't really see a point in it being bad for the environment.
@infini7791
@infini7791 Жыл бұрын
Not just Android. Tons of devices use USB-C now.
@koadnonnash
@koadnonnash Жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯
@RobertLesac
@RobertLesac 11 ай бұрын
Damn, this is some great Apple astroturfing. I almost believed it was genuine for the first couple of minutes.
@formbi
@formbi 10 ай бұрын
very possible, but OTOH Apple stans are just very dumb
@xurant
@xurant Жыл бұрын
I ve said this b4 even b4 the EU asked them to switch to type c, i said the security option and option to side load from third party stores or sites should be an option for the consumers to decide rather than default. Its like criticizing someone for buying or making a unique custom case for his iphone make it look different or jailbreaking its ios to tweak it as they like, a lot of apple users do that and its sad that apple ignores them and these customers are aware of android phones make no mistake
@o_q
@o_q Жыл бұрын
you can decide to not sideload apps by.... not sideloading them.
@ahbarabraham6154
@ahbarabraham6154 Жыл бұрын
You can not to jailbreak an iPhone... By not buying iPhone
@Shakashelmet
@Shakashelmet Жыл бұрын
​@@ahbarabraham6154bro it's cool if you want the default but some of us want more options. Sideloading won't break apple.
@70M45-c9r
@70M45-c9r 10 ай бұрын
Exactly, nobody forces anyone not to use Apple apps.
@netvisionz
@netvisionz 9 ай бұрын
My question is, why doesn’t anyone force Mercedes or Rolls Royce to depart from their company DNA? Apple has made great products and now the government wants to tell them how to change them. Something is wrong with that.
@danielduxmwangi5799
@danielduxmwangi5799 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if you could just take your USB-C iPhone and connect it to any computer and edit your photos/videos on any 3rd party-sideloaded app and post it wherever you like. Wouldn't that be crazy, it'd be like you actually own your $1000+ phone.
@AggeNoob
@AggeNoob Жыл бұрын
Yeah, i don't see this as a problem for anyone exept for appels wallet to be honest! Totaly agree with you
@KLRDXNNY
@KLRDXNNY Жыл бұрын
@@AggeNoobApple* and also it’s not a problem for Apple they just would rather not be given demands just like everyone else
@arnoldmbuthia2687
@arnoldmbuthia2687 11 ай бұрын
you could just do that on android.
@KLRDXNNY
@KLRDXNNY 10 ай бұрын
@@ibanezlaney There’s multiple different types that all are meant for individual purposes but are the same size and shape meaning either you’ll get one meant for charging or you could get one meant for uploading and random things that don’t need to be used on phones. Also if you charge your phone with one that is meant for something else than charging it’s gonna take forever to charge😂
@nick_fitch
@nick_fitch Жыл бұрын
Holy shit. This is the best FPT video. Very well said and I hope more people start talking about this.
@ochsfamily
@ochsfamily Жыл бұрын
Agree… and if this keeps going..we will look back on this and it will too late. Too far gone.. incrementalism at its best
@mikebalentine
@mikebalentine Жыл бұрын
Another example of gross government overreach and people celebrate it which is baffling.
@Defiantclash
@Defiantclash Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@wintendoguy
@wintendoguy Жыл бұрын
Me too
@glasses2926
@glasses2926 Жыл бұрын
A great video excluding the part where FPT complained that Apple actually gave in to using a better port and how companies can actually be answerable to government oversight. Look, I agree that the recent EU consideration to simply tell Apple to open up its platform for 3rd party apps is straying from the actually good pro-repair laws and I get that this is the main point of the video. But to liken the USB-C port to something as nefarious as the beginning of the "giving a mouse a cookie" is stupid when it is, in every way, superior to the lightning port it replaced. Heck, Apple contributed to most of the engineering prowess behind USB-C. And 9:10-10:00 just sounds like every company when its trying to defend questionable practices - "Oh, this is how we work, why do we have to answer to laws?" EDIT: After having done some reading on the Digital Markets Act, I think FTP actually has less points going for him than before I did the reading. DMA applies equally to all big tech companies, includes clauses that prevent monetisation of data and uphold privacy (which is FTP and Apple's main complaint), and does some pretty important work in making sure bigger companies can't just toss start-ups off the technology train before they even get a good grip. It seems to me that FTP has just bought into Apple's eternal claims of superior privacy, although I may be reading DMA wrong.
@lelmus3277
@lelmus3277 Жыл бұрын
In the past 5 years I’ve gone through about 10 lighting cables. But my iPad Pro’s USB-C is still using the same cable after the same 5 years. That says a lot to me.
@jpitt916
@jpitt916 Жыл бұрын
What's weird is that if you look back, Apple implemented (and helped develop) USB-C fairly early, but for some reason they expected everyone to continue to use USB 2.0 speed Lightning cables. Even the iPad got USB-C 5 years ago!! It sure was nice when even if I didn't have a phone charger handy I could just plug in my iPad charger instead. They deleted the headphone jack. They have been anti right to repair. They refuse to implement RCS (rather than switching to SMS) when Apple users text anyone other than Apple users. Tim Cook snarkily told someone to buy their grandmother an iPhone. Surely if user security was a top priority they would be concerned about their users texting the majority of the world without iPhones. I applaud their refusal to break encryption for any government, or share private user data, but they left this huge vulnerability in place. The point I'm trying to make is they have given their haters SO much ammunition. They failed to think tactically and now it's coming back to bite them. I do not support what the EU is trying to do, even though I was glad to see USB-C in the iPhone a reality. Disclaimer: This is a multi-platform household. We have PC's, Macs, iPhones, iPads, and Android phones.
@reboxtherapy
@reboxtherapy Жыл бұрын
Lightning is only usb 2.0. You had to buy ipad pro to get usb type C, 4 years ago.
@CrisslCross
@CrisslCross Жыл бұрын
Why don't you support what the EU is trying to do? Could you elaborate on that?
@jpitt916
@jpitt916 Жыл бұрын
@CrisssCross they're trying to break the entire business model Apple uses. They have always operated as a closed garden, and it seems to me that the EU is basically being a bully. While I don't really oppose these features being enabled, I oppose forcing them with legislation unless they are actually breaking laws (antitrust, anticompetitive, financial, monopolizing, collusion, etc.), not just because one guy has a personal vendetta.
@Obstidian
@Obstidian Жыл бұрын
Personal vendetta? If I remember correctly, a large number of people need to vote for it to pass.
@jpitt916
@jpitt916 Жыл бұрын
@Obstidian nobody in the EU voted for this. Officials made the call
@steveleatherwood3803
@steveleatherwood3803 Жыл бұрын
Jon, not sure what has happened, but your videos of late have been absolutely some of the best on KZbin. I am so impressed by the content, editing, and vantage point. Truly compelling and excellent in subject and presentation. Keep it up sir!
@LC34999
@LC34999 Жыл бұрын
No needs more violins
@soyaleye
@soyaleye Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with you on this one. I was a subscriber for a very brief period then unsubscribed cos it seemed a bit childish, then I can across his recent videos and he seems a lot more mature and insightful to me now, so I’m back to being a subscriber.
@JEscobarSV
@JEscobarSV 11 ай бұрын
Wow, peak iSheep video. They charge extra for proprietary cables that charge even slower than USB C, not only that, they make small variations making obsoletete their previous propietary cables, this isn't good for the consumer nor the environment. Having a universal charging and data transfer cable is the best for everybody
@AndreFTSG
@AndreFTSG 9 ай бұрын
Ok. Don't buy it.. 😂
@JEscobarSV
@JEscobarSV 9 ай бұрын
@@AndreFTSG don't worry, I'll never will. That's literally what "vote with your wallet" means
@itaintcal
@itaintcal 9 ай бұрын
lmfao, the fact that you clicked this video with this title but got upset shows that you’re simply just hating. cause why else are you even here?
@JEscobarSV
@JEscobarSV 9 ай бұрын
​@@itaintcal dude I'm not remotely upset, it's a big ass corporation and the video stated "it was the end of it", it was clickbaity enough to get my attention. Little did I know that the guy thinks that the EU will be Apple's downfall. They will keep selling like hot cakes and continue their hipocresy about being "environmentally friendly" or pro consumer when they are also being forced to let people do their own repairs and weld components to their motherboard to prevent upgrades.
@itaintcal
@itaintcal 9 ай бұрын
@@JEscobarSV i honestly agree with you on that. too bad their ecosystem is good, otherwise i wouldn’t be locked in
@steventechno
@steventechno Жыл бұрын
Sideloading can be a good thing! Emulators have been banned on the platform and those can make their debut. It’s also great for Open Source apps too! There could be a collection of FLOSS apps finally available too! Plus it’ll be disabled by default anyhow so Sideloading is no big deal for those that don’t want it. I’d love to see some good Music players for those that want to use MP3s without iTunes. EDIT: Yes, Sideloading can be dangerous, and I'm sure Apple will have pop-up warnings that attempt to dissuade users from enabling it. These users may heed the warnings and back down. The rest of us will use Common sense and avoid "modded" versions of proprietary Apps.
@arisumego
@arisumego Жыл бұрын
can be?? it IS a good thing.
@Yuniverse7
@Yuniverse7 Жыл бұрын
People could do that on android. Leave Apple alone for the rest of us. USB-C port and perhaps even removable battery is somewhat understandable. But dismantling the Apple walled garden is unacceptable to me
@SignedAdam
@SignedAdam Жыл бұрын
You're argument towards the end of the video makes no sense! Apple will still be a walled garden but with a option for sideloading
@gafsakg
@gafsakg Жыл бұрын
@@arisumegowhat if a user downloads the wrong side loaded app and ends up with malware, or bricks their phone etc. Apple will probably find a way to prevent this eventually or maybe there is already a way. But ultimately most things that are good also have a bad side.
@toxicheadshot360
@toxicheadshot360 Жыл бұрын
@@gafsakg So what? thats your fault
@AdalbertK
@AdalbertK Жыл бұрын
For anyone thinking this is rational information : It's not! It's verry pro apple and pretty manipulative alongside that. There is no reason why they shouldn't allow sideloading apps for enthusiasts who might want that. In fact, they could become a viable option for many users, for who, not beeing able to side load is allready a dealbreaker, by doing that. Some nerds want to programm their verry own apps just for themselfes, so why stop them from doing that? For everyone else, the feature could be disabled by default. They could even say that you lose the security promises and what else is unique to their ecosystem, software wise, if you activate the feature. Don't paint the picture black and white, cause it isn't.
@TomaHawknight51
@TomaHawknight51 Жыл бұрын
This goes against what Steve Jobs believed in. The secluded OS etc with Apple is what makes it special. Man Steve is rolling in his grave.
@Mancave647
@Mancave647 Жыл бұрын
There’s no evidence supporting your theory of Steve Jobs rolling in his grave. It’s more likely that he’s stayed very still.
@dollarn9ne
@dollarn9ne Жыл бұрын
Steve Jobs literally said that FaceTime and iMessage will be open to all when it was announced.
@breakinggames6356
@breakinggames6356 Жыл бұрын
@@dollarn9neand then it wasn’t sadly
@NaeNaeFiend
@NaeNaeFiend Жыл бұрын
@rokie-senseiaccording to who?
@shelbyGT40
@shelbyGT40 Жыл бұрын
Huge Apple fan but Apple went to shit since Steve died
@tcmmorariu
@tcmmorariu Жыл бұрын
I don't get people defending not allowing sideloading. If you don't want to sideload, just don't do it, you are not obligated to sideload anything.
@Jurtaani
@Jurtaani 9 ай бұрын
but haven't you hear what Tim Apple has said? if they open their app ecosystem to sideloading, it will then automatically mean that all Apple users data wil be hacked and be sold onto dark web. or that is how Apple has painted the whole thing and sadly some people defending Apple clearly has bought their lies. all i have to say to that is, if Apple can't make it so that sideloading is an opt-in feature like it is on Android. then how safe that iOS really is then?
@IPlayGames3
@IPlayGames3 9 ай бұрын
Biggest facts I've heard all day
@OscarZhou511
@OscarZhou511 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, but that's not the point. If the EU keeps winning against Apple...Apple will have no control. Sideloading is JUST the beginning.
@sukhmandersingh4306
@sukhmandersingh4306 9 ай бұрын
​@@OscarZhou511 Yeah but these changes are good, we should stand with EU on this one. If EU does something bad we can side with apple. Siding with apple to help them maintain monopoly is just stupid.
@OscarZhou511
@OscarZhou511 9 ай бұрын
@@sukhmandersingh4306I get what you're trying to say, but if people are choosing to use an iPhone, they just know that they're not going to get the customizability of Android. They're getting a polished iPhone.
@kushj9568
@kushj9568 11 ай бұрын
Dude, breaking down that wall will do nothing but help apple users. They'll still have that same ecosystem they can take advantage of, but on top of that a plethora of more options. The whole "security" argument is quite hollow and really could just be solved with a switch in the settings on the off chance that the grandmas who use iPhones don't download something malicious
@changein3d
@changein3d 9 ай бұрын
They already do it on the mac. You sideload something, you have to go to your security settings to open it, because it may be unsecure. But then you can open it. Why not the same on iPhone? I imagine endless possibilities.
@colin_priest
@colin_priest Жыл бұрын
Hiring Brian was the best thing you’ve ever done. He’s changed your channel for the better.
@kl2991
@kl2991 Жыл бұрын
Who's Brian?
@sriraamkrishnan
@sriraamkrishnan Жыл бұрын
@@kl2991​​⁠ Is this a joke? If you genuinely don’t know…. 14:28 Brian aka bern is Jon’s best friend who was with him from the start of FPT. FPT always has been jern+bern. Jern shoots the video, bern edits, makes it funny, censors controversy, add annotations, export and upload it. Around 2020-22 they had a misunderstanding and went ways apart. Recently jon hired Brian shoop as the writer of fpt. Most if not All the fart jokes we enjoy are written by bern. He is the other part of FPT we don’t see. If you wanna know bern better listen to the recycled bin podcast where jern and bern hangout.
@Ryberg2.0
@Ryberg2.0 Жыл бұрын
​@@sriraamkrishnanthey actually split from each other for 2 years due to John moving out of state (and his previous engagement to Corina Garcia). When John and Corina split, Bern came back into the picture
@slob5041
@slob5041 Жыл бұрын
@@sriraamkrishnanwho’s Brian?
@JurassicF4rt
@JurassicF4rt Жыл бұрын
@@slob5041your daddy
@anudeepmufc
@anudeepmufc Жыл бұрын
This is honestly such a nice and a fresh outlook on the whole EU x Apple controversy. It is so positive to see this channel and Jon grow from sticking to news to making such opinionated videos with a high production value and a beautifully worded script. I'm sure many with disagree with his views, but I hope everyone can appreciate the way he has presented his views on this. Cheers, Jon!
@ARBUZIK.dudkin
@ARBUZIK.dudkin Жыл бұрын
Wow. I actually saw a video of someone protecting the monopoly of Apple. Apple is already a different company. Their values changed from making the best product to making the most profit while still keeping their reputation. If Steve Jobs was still alive he would have stopped selling iPhones in the EU but for Tim Cook its too much sales to miss for him so he complies with the regulations because he has no choice. You said it will come to whose market is more important to who but obviously the European market is a lot more important to Apple than Apple to the European market. Btw I heard somewhere that sideloading is available in IOS 17.
@anon_acc
@anon_acc Жыл бұрын
exactly
@mgames1710
@mgames1710 Жыл бұрын
I disagree man, sideloading should definitely be allowed and I'm glad EU is pushing for it. There's so many apps that could be on the App Store like emulators and fan-made games but because every app has to go through Apple's gates, this never happens. Sure put your warnings up, but definitely allow that freedom!
@C018y_
@C018y_ 10 ай бұрын
I mean imo you have the freedom to get another phone from another manufacturer that would allow these things.
@harrison00xXx
@harrison00xXx 10 ай бұрын
@@C018y_ And you even can sideload nowadays "not confirmed" iOS apps, just marked as a developer app and the app works for 7 days before you have to connect the iPhone to the computer again to reactivate the app, so pretty unconvenient yet but still safe since the apps have as little low level access as legit app store apps.
@changein3d
@changein3d 9 ай бұрын
It's not really companies allowing for that, it's more Apple making efforts to PREVENT that, so they are in control of the cash flow. Look at Mac, how well sideloading works. It is secure, and if you are not a fan, you just don't do it. These fundamentals of having freedom in virtual environments should be not dependent on a profit-orientated company.@@C018y_
@miguelsilva9118
@miguelsilva9118 9 ай бұрын
@@C018y_ now he doesn't have to. Problem solved.
@cassiuscartland
@cassiuscartland 9 ай бұрын
AltStore
@InferMator
@InferMator Жыл бұрын
Interesting approach. I feel what's left forgotten is MacOS. You can easily "sideload" applications and use numerous App Stores. So if they have successfully dodged the bullet there, I don't think there shall be an issue with other OS Apple has.
@skyscraperfan
@skyscraperfan Жыл бұрын
Exactly. If sideloading was so dangerous, why is it possible on a Mac?
@fridaynightplans_
@fridaynightplans_ Жыл бұрын
Aside from that, if you don't want to sideload apps then it's your own decision to make. It is not being forced to each users.
@applea.m.h.3560
@applea.m.h.3560 Жыл бұрын
I think they sell android phones that allow side loading if that’s what you’re looking for
@skyscraperfan
@skyscraperfan Жыл бұрын
@@applea.m.h.3560 People should not have to choose between freedom and privacy. They should get both at iOS and Android.
@BlackPrimeMinister
@BlackPrimeMinister Жыл бұрын
@@applea.m.h.3560 What a foolish response: the "If you don't agree with the President, why don't you leave America?" argument from low-IQ fanboys. Answer: THIS IS MY COUNTRY.
@dynamitestyle8678
@dynamitestyle8678 10 ай бұрын
I don't undersrand what the issue about sideloading is. Like, you don't have to sideload shit if you don't want to. Boom! You're still secure!
@sterlinglutes9556
@sterlinglutes9556 10 ай бұрын
I don't undersrand what the issue about sideloading is. Like, you don't have to sidleload shit if apple doesn't wanna do it than don't make them do it. Boom! You're still welcome to buy any device you want! The issue is the government is telling them they have to do it because the government thinks it can control everything. We are smart we have brains and we know what we want and we know how to shop for our preferences in a phone or anything else we buy dont let the government make everything the same, sounds boring.
@Hunator
@Hunator 10 ай бұрын
It hadn't started in 2021 by EU mandate. It was the voluntary agreement in 2009 that "standardized" USB connectors in phones (first micro-USB, then USB-C). Almost all adopted it, but Apple. That is why it is just Apple that needs to change now; that is why it had to be a mandate. The rest of the market adopted standard USB connectors a way ago. There is a major flaw in the USB-C line in this video. Apple hasn't been the only one targeted by this regulation, and it didn't start in 2021. The idea is way older than that. Do you remember the time before the iPhone? Phone manufacturers like Nokia, Ericson, Siemens, Motorola, and so on all had their own charging/data ports. In 2009, the biggest mobile phone producers of that time made an agreement with the EU to use a common charging port, the micro-USB. Since around 2011, most of the market has adopted standard micro-USB connectors. No hard regulation, no enforcement. Almost all but Apple ... Instead, Apple came with the Lightning. Basically, the proprietary two-sided USB 2.0 with added accessory identification and licensed by Apple. Technically, there is almost no benefit to the user over micro-USB (apart from the two-sided design). However, there is a huge benefit for Apple - license fees and a higher price tag. Anti-customer behaviour in my book. Also, it was a bit funny to hear from Apple that the USB-C mandate would hold innovation when they are the ones still using USB 2.0 (in their connector). As for the sideloading, it is just an option. If you want to sideload, you will be able to do so in a few clicks. Android does have sideloading, but it doesn't mean that most users use it. We will see how it will go - the EU doesn't like to get screwed, and this halfway compliance usually ends up with fines.
@changein3d
@changein3d 9 ай бұрын
great comment, thank you
@7mana
@7mana Жыл бұрын
Great video editing but i have to say that i almost disagree with everything you've said. I think usb c is great(although something can be said about if its here to stay or not, but i hope by that point eu can maybe change that law, who knows we'll see) Having batterys be replaceable by anyone is also a huge step forward(although for a while phones might be a bit less water resistant) And i think opening up the walled garden is great for the consumer Imo it's less of a slippery slope and more of a slide of success (at least so far) Although i really have researched enough to be making this comment i hope i havent said anything too dumb 😅
@AzizRahman1
@AzizRahman1 Жыл бұрын
You haven't said anything dumb, but I do side with Jon on this argument. The post is that a government should only be able to go so far when it comes to controlling how a private company handles its business. It's OK for you when it's for something you want or against a company you dislike, but when those governments come after something you care about. Also, regarding Apple's walled garden: if you dislike walled gardens, just go with Android. The EU have no business demanding Apple change their principles.
@RodrigoTakehara
@RodrigoTakehara Жыл бұрын
​@@AzizRahman1 it's hard to balance consumer an companies rights when they are at odds at each other. For instance, I agree that the government shouldn't have forced Apple to adopt usb-c. But if apple thinks iphones should use lightning, and I disagree, I should be allowed to open my iphone, de-solder the lightning connector and install a usb-c connector. It is complicated, and I could damage it, but I should be allowed to do it. In the same vein, if apple thinks certain apps shouldn't be allowed and I disagree, I should be allowed to side load on my own risk.
@lukanvanderlinde
@lukanvanderlinde Жыл бұрын
Companies like GoPro and Insta have been putting removable batteries on waterproof electronics for years. It's not that hard for the biggest company in the world.
@RobertLesac
@RobertLesac 11 ай бұрын
@@AzizRahman1You seem honest and not a shill, so I'll just assume you are too young to remember that ATT had a complete monopoly on the US phone network. ATT only allowed phones that they sold, using network security as the excuse, same as Apple. Luckily, the government stepped in and broke up the ATT monopoly. It's one of the functions of the government, which sadly is not used enough, allowing corporations to get too big and influential. So it's absolutely their business to regulate how business operate. If not, children would still be working in coal mines and workers would be dying in flammable factories.
@davinqi6093
@davinqi6093 11 ай бұрын
Seriously, have you ever used any Apple product?
@ragefierce
@ragefierce Жыл бұрын
I think this argument is tapping into people's "big government" fear, and it is a little far-fetched to say the least. On the argument of opening up iphone access to competitors' versions of Apple's App Store, no consumer is being FORCED to use those same non-apple app stores. In other words, just because the EU would like to give Apple consumers the CHOICE of accessing apps from competitors does not mean that apple consumers MUST use the non-Apple app stores.
@PigRipperLAW
@PigRipperLAW Жыл бұрын
Greedy corporations need to be held accountable. I just wish they put more effort into passing legislation to end poverty. Living wages & higher corporate taxes would be sufficient
@tatendashaquealchikowore9038
@tatendashaquealchikowore9038 Жыл бұрын
Your comment is underrated, l support you my gee
@AlienGrade
@AlienGrade Жыл бұрын
Ignorance ☝️. Federal Reserve banking makes you poor, Fiat Currency over time loses buying power, eventually your broke outside in the cold. Has Zero to do with greedy corporations. Even though USA is a Corp that is another story way to much for my target to comprehend.
@brandonspiterig
@brandonspiterig Жыл бұрын
With the introduction of USB-C, it's been fantastic to have a wider array of options for port compatibility. Being able to sideload opens up numerous possibilities. I'm currently enjoying playing retro games on my iPhone, all thanks to the AltStore loophole, a feat that wouldn't be achievable without sideloading. It has the potential to unlock various opportunities and might even entice Android users to consider giving Apple a try, which can be a positive development. I'd say, "Open the gates!"
@swifty1969
@swifty1969 Жыл бұрын
yes! But Altstore is limited to only two apps and you have to re-install the apps every 7 days. Also, you need a computer to re-assign the apps. After a while, I didn't bother anymore.
@brandonspiterig
@brandonspiterig Жыл бұрын
thats why i wish we could side load like android, so we can even bypass the altstore being locked to only ios app store really limits the device as one has to obey the apple rules, but as we saw with the altstore device could do so much more.@@swifty1969
@nasheemwhye5197
@nasheemwhye5197 Жыл бұрын
Why do people do this? Bro, you're missing the whole point. This is not about downloading an app and updated every two days the point he's making is there is limited possibilities with side loading apps. He just used that one example to prove a point and you're making a big deal about that and getting way out of context.
@cassiuscartland
@cassiuscartland 9 ай бұрын
finally, someone who did 0.00001 bits or research and found out Altstore was a thing.
@brackodejacko
@brackodejacko Жыл бұрын
All the hyperbole. All of it. Providing the key to the walled garden doesn't mean everyone has to open it. They are ensuring people can do what they want with their own devices.
@yondertz
@yondertz Жыл бұрын
Incidentally, the timestamp 9:41 is where the great argument is in! Applause for the whole video - You guys verbalized what’s in my heart right now. Thanks, Jon and team FPT.
@inversebrah
@inversebrah 10 ай бұрын
If you are convinced by those "arguments" then you're a npc
@yondertz
@yondertz 10 ай бұрын
@@inversebrah okie!
@brandonjohannes7919
@brandonjohannes7919 Жыл бұрын
Just by having the option to sideload doesn't mean you have to. This can also be beneficial for users looking to get more out of their phone, for example, if someone wanted to install an emulator and play classic games such as Gameboy games on their phone, they'd have the option to do so. This can actually be beneficial to smart users, so I think it's unfair to assume that this would be bad for everyone, and it may even help some people become more tech savvy by introducing options that weren't previously available on their phone. Don't blame the phone for getting a virus: blame the user for downloading it. Who knows it may even teach some people accountability. I also think that this won't impact people that won't want it to, for example, android gives you the option to sideload, but it gives you a warning message before downloading something off that internet, so if a user doesn't feel comfortable with the download, they can decline the download. This does not force the user into downloading unwanted/malicious content onto their phone, but rather opens up the platform for those that feel restricted by it.
@JorossChrist
@JorossChrist Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Common sense is the best security
@bradywright9468
@bradywright9468 Жыл бұрын
@@JorossChrist I worked in a cellular retail space. I can promise that the majority of people I saw on a day to day couldn't figure out how to get into their phone because they couldn't remember the password/pin they had set. They also couldn't use the internet because they had turned off cellular signal in the quick menu. Most folks don't have common sense especially in the tech space.
@loadmusics7142
@loadmusics7142 Жыл бұрын
Thank You bro this is the comment am Looking for Android gives you options 2 times first when downloading the app it gives you option to either accept or decline secondly while installing u have the option to allow any app instal an app for me I only give that option to my File app only it can install an app on my phone by me and then while installing it will ask u if you want to go on or decline u still have the Choice apple know they can make their phone secure at the same time adding sideloading they just lazy to do it
@maksadnahibhoolna-wc2ef
@maksadnahibhoolna-wc2ef Жыл бұрын
and yeah giving option to sideload definitely helps, it's even available with the macbooks
@sldy.
@sldy. Жыл бұрын
There is Android for that, apple doesn't need to become Android. That very control is what makes people appreciate it's simplicity & ease of use. Not everybody wants to be tech savvy or cares about technology. They just want it to be simple & not have too many choices. Those who want it there is Android for that. I'll say that again "Apple doesn't need to be like Android".
@crispyjokingtuna1495
@crispyjokingtuna1495 Жыл бұрын
I love the standard fpt videos, but whenever you talk about something you are passionate about your videos are on a different level. Good job to you and Brian for knocking it out of the park
@lamerubbsih
@lamerubbsih Жыл бұрын
bro, this is not anti apple.... this is pro environment... why would Apple keep making phones that use different cables? What are the benefits for the environment?
@MaximillianRadniecki
@MaximillianRadniecki Жыл бұрын
I so much prefer these videos over the regular tech news. They’re real and deep. You very obviously care and spend a lot of time considering these. I’ve listened to every episode of Genius Bar and your takes are always so thoughtful. You’ve even changed my mind before back in the iPhone csam days. I was okay with it until I listened to your opinion
@tamwilfred
@tamwilfred Жыл бұрын
I remember jail breaking iPhone was a thing. Are people still doing that?
@cbwl3474
@cbwl3474 Жыл бұрын
👋 I really appreciate the quality of your videos. While I typically don't comment when I disagree, I must say that, as an Apple customer living in the EU, it's important to consider why these changes can also be beneficial. Apple is an exceptional company, but regulations often encourage companies to innovate and improve the same way competition fosters innovation. ⬇ For exemple : SMS < RCS lighting < USB-C Big Data < GDPR Close Source < Open Source Email or Messaging < E2E encryption App Store Tax (for developers) < Open Stores …
@IAMOP
@IAMOP 11 ай бұрын
The video went downhill pretty fast, very uninformed and full of contradictions. EU's government wants to have a set of policies and regulations in place for companies to protect their citizens or give more rights as consumers. GDPR for example is a leading intiative by the EU in tech space and it made the tech companies take user privacy rights far more seriously. Side loading apps or having a universally compatable charging port are not security threats.
@nuazing
@nuazing 10 ай бұрын
On my mac I can download and install Applications from anywhere. I don’t understand why it should not be possible to have the same freedom on my iPhone.
@MrLuis85698
@MrLuis85698 Жыл бұрын
This is beyond TECH ... FPT crosses over all the limits ever here to bring us all to the attention that no other is talking about . This is the Best FPT video I have watched in years and they are all great.
@livingbreath
@livingbreath Жыл бұрын
Possibly the best episode you ever made. Thank you for being more than a simple tech channel today. Crazy that it was even called for but it most definitely was. Sh*t got real today.
@speedracer69mach56
@speedracer69mach56 Жыл бұрын
EU 💩
@glyakk
@glyakk Жыл бұрын
Disagree, EU is just forcing apple to put on its big boy pants.
@phil9005
@phil9005 Жыл бұрын
I'm on board with the switch to USB-C, but you're spot on Jon... the EU's push to open up iOS is utter nonsense.
@SoundSpeeds
@SoundSpeeds Жыл бұрын
Privacy? No, Apple is about Proprietary. I loved the idea of the iPhone when I heard the announcement approaching 20 years ago but when I started to see how proprietary and demanding of using their system and services they were, I lost my interest.
@TCHGOD
@TCHGOD Жыл бұрын
DUDE, this may be one of the best videos you’ve made. Absolutely spot on.
@MaxOakland
@MaxOakland 11 ай бұрын
I'm a user and I'm asking for what the EU is doing. They're doing good work and Apple shouldn't fight it. They should change their culture to become more pro-consumer I see a lot of people say that EU mandates could stifle innovation but if you actually look at the situation, Apple is the party that stifled innovation by forcing users to use a slow, outdated technology (Lightning) instead of a fast, modern alternative (USB C)
@fimmyk
@fimmyk 11 ай бұрын
Apple doesnt force anyone to buy their products. If people want phone that loads any and every app they want, there's already an alternative for that which is Android. People are free to choose what they want and people who buy iphones over android, they buy them knowing very well what they're buying. It's not like someone buys an iPhone only to find out that it doesnt have USB C and they were tricked into thinking it has one. But forcing a company to use USB C is not really what it's about, its about the EU trying to dictate to Apple to open up their OS in the name of "competition"
@IAMOP
@IAMOP 11 ай бұрын
@@fimmyk Business monopolies are illegal since 1890. Apple and other tech giants are hitting that line and governments are taking action and bringing policies in place as they should
@calebk5506
@calebk5506 Жыл бұрын
Literally the best FPT video I’ve ever watched! I think you raise amazing points, and the fact of the matter is, the consumer should get to choose with their money, and not be pushed around by the government. If the EU wants to make their own phone company with all their requirements, they should just do that, instead of forcing other companies to comply with what they think consumers want. Theres a fine line between forcing a company to operate ethically (like just not using slave/child labour) and forcing them to do whatever you want because they’re winning. Also the clips of Steve really showed what Apple’s core values were and how this essentially targets those directly.
@TimlegoStudios
@TimlegoStudios Жыл бұрын
The author of this channel is not educated in economics. If he would be, he would QUICKLY realize the bad effects of a monopoly (like Apple's). It's not children's games anymore. Because someone's winning, lots of other people suffer. One can't liken this situation to a game.
@TapZackGames
@TapZackGames Жыл бұрын
Saw the title on my homepage, cackled at its absurdity, then moved on with my day.
@jonson856
@jonson856 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but your hypothetical counter-argument makes little sense to me. "If the EU wanted to force Android to lock down..." Why should the EU want that? If the EU wants to force Android to do anything then it's to open up even more. And I also don't see how this would cause Apple to become "more of the same", implying Apple becoming like Android. Isn't the main argument that in exchange for the limited freedom on iOS, you get much better polished apps and software, a much better software experience? Is this gonna change with the iOS apps? I don't think so. And what should people who side-load Android apps into iOS complain about? That it doesn't run as well as the iOS native version? Well duuh
@luxluth
@luxluth 10 ай бұрын
Moreover android is open-source LMAO
@fmadden71
@fmadden71 Жыл бұрын
So the iPhone got USB-C 5 years before it normally would have? :)
@madsrishoj
@madsrishoj 10 ай бұрын
People really should be able to sideload. That part really doesn’t have anything to do with privacy. Corellium should be able to develop their software without the fear of being sued. There’s a lot of good in this change.
@renosan4706
@renosan4706 Жыл бұрын
this channel: lots of cliffhangers for... nothing.
@larskahn
@larskahn Жыл бұрын
How is the iPhone able to side load apps different from downloading programs on MacOS? I don’t see how the option of downloading programs outside of Apple’s is a bad thing, considering as you say, most people aren’t going to take advantage of that feature to begin with. People who want to would be able to AND keep using their iPhone, as opposed to switching to an entirely different ecosystem.
@mallorymedia6440
@mallorymedia6440 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this patiently since Genius Bar! These are always your BEST videos Jern keep it up!
@rstr0up
@rstr0up Жыл бұрын
No lie, this might be the best and most important video you’ve made, not only for FPT but for the Apple User as a whole. Well done!
@jacobsnyder8746
@jacobsnyder8746 10 ай бұрын
My Chromebook uses USB-C and so does my work Windows laptop. Making the 15 use USB-C too is a game changer. I could use the same charger for everything. That's one of the things I miss about having an Android phone is the charging port.
@NicholasVettese
@NicholasVettese Жыл бұрын
I truly believe Jon is a closet conservative.
@fredslayton
@fredslayton Жыл бұрын
It’s not a liberal vs conservative issue. It’s freedom to choose vs doing what they tell you.
@X139T
@X139T Жыл бұрын
Dude FTP has officially reach a new level of quality and validity. Remarkable work Jon.
@NATORDEN
@NATORDEN 10 ай бұрын
companies lobbying governments to do their bidding: i sleep government does the uno reverse: real shit
@hotguyjim
@hotguyjim Жыл бұрын
I really don't get people who have a problem with side loading. Like if you are scared of your privacy just DON'T side load like what ??????
@TG-io6jx
@TG-io6jx Жыл бұрын
I love your videos Jon and I’m a big fan of Apple, but this time I have to say that I don’t agree with you and I believe you leave out too much relevant information. You make it look like the EU wants to take Apple down with rules, regulations and restrictions. Apple has indeed always been a stubborn company and was the only tech company that refused to switch all of their products to USB-c (even though they did want to switch some products to USB-c for some reason, because otherwise the product wasn’t ‘Pro’ enough?). The EU simply wants to prevent companies like Apple from having too much of a monopoly when it comes to things like App Store. Other companies and developers can hardly compete with Apple, because Apple decides everything inside the App store and therefore also inside the iPhone. Since billions of people are using iPhones these days, developers and companies simply have to comply and accept Apple’s condition and overpowering market position. As for USB-c, a lot of consumers and tech-enthusiasts showed excitement when the rumours starting floating around that Apple would switch to USB-c, even you, so don’t act like you never wanted this. USB-c and opening up to third party app stores are needed to save the environment, create more convenience for the consumer and create healthy competition to the big tech companies which also always benefits the consumer. Don’t interpret this message badly, please. I like your videos and will continue to do so, but I just wanted to share my thoughts and concerns on this video. Keep up the good work Jon!
@DarkChaosMC
@DarkChaosMC Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@drew42228
@drew42228 Жыл бұрын
As a minimal apple user I see all these changes as good and would make me consider buying more products. I think replaceable batteries are on the cards that's a good thing
@daveed_
@daveed_ Жыл бұрын
In contrast, that is actually bad for you. Let's scale this up a little... Would you ask them to force electric car companies to make the batteries replaceable by you the user, without any tools required? Safety in technology is best when sensitive parts are tightly enclosed out of prying hands. This is why you gas cylinders have thicker walls than your regular water- bottle, or tighter caps too. Humans really cannot comprehend scale and I perfectly understand. Throw this deep into the future, you are going to find out that leaving the battery more exposed is actually bad for you as the user. The best way is to make them bring down the price for repairs and replacement parts. It shouldn't cost more than 10% of the original unit value during assembly. But the moral of this particular video is that it is actually wrong to force companies to evolve out of their core values all because you want to exercise control or something. I have friend who will never consider Apple as a primary device.
@matthewblack1993
@matthewblack1993 Жыл бұрын
I am an apple ecosystem user and completely disagree with allowing side loading and other companies to involve themselves in apples ecosystem. Apple is a company that has end to end control. It’s a company where you get a phone and have minimal options to change but optimal security features to keep your data safe. Apple was built on these principles and has became incredibly successful on these principles, like the video says, if you don’t want those principles, there are other phones to go to.
@kevin2028
@kevin2028 Жыл бұрын
you're in the minority. This would kill the very reason I've been an apple customer for 20 years. Everyone in my family including my in laws are now apple users because of me. Most people buy into Apple for the walled garden. Apple has pissed me off several times over the years, but when I look at PC's and Android and the wild wild west of component difference between one thing or another, I lose all interest in dealing with Frankenstein products.
@drew42228
@drew42228 Жыл бұрын
You all made good points. I guess there should be a choice for people who want the walled garden as there is plenty of choice for people like me. As I said I'm a apple super casual user.
@krisfoster2644
@krisfoster2644 Жыл бұрын
@@kevin2028Samsung has huge issues of burnt in screens. Everyone says iPhones and all crash after two years, I disagree. Every android product I’ve owned falls apart within a year. Their ecosystems are beyond buggy. Risk of virus and malware is high. My iPhone lasted me 3yrs (12) before the back glass broke down to a bad case… I only consider windows because of steam gaming, but Mac supports the few games I do want. So it’s a battle in my heart but I lean towards apple more because with windows 80% of the market is computers that’ll bust within a year, overheating etc while apple does focus on quality of their products. Microsoft surfaces are the only windows I support, not razor, or third party stuff.
@scrollofthothchannel
@scrollofthothchannel Жыл бұрын
I bet you're an Ayn Rand fan. All of this is good for consumers. Good.
@Tampsey
@Tampsey Жыл бұрын
"a feature no one asked for" also many people: *jailbreaking for sideloading and using troublesome workarounds*
@ramonguzman2364
@ramonguzman2364 Жыл бұрын
I would agree completely IF and only IF iMessages was changed to RCS chat. There’s just way too much bullying and social pressure to have blue bubble that makes it go beyond just privacy concerns for having iMessage when RCS can replace it.
@ca678.4
@ca678.4 Жыл бұрын
What bullying and social pressure is there to have a blue bubble? First I’ve heard of it. That’s more of a society/wherever you are thing than an apple having to replace their message app so that it includes everyone thing. Or maybe I misunderstood what you were saying.
@miguelsilva9118
@miguelsilva9118 9 ай бұрын
@@ca678.4 first you've heard of it? Time to move out from under that rock.
@mypersonalplaylist1962
@mypersonalplaylist1962 Жыл бұрын
Apple's gatekeeping is not for the benefit of the customer, it never is, the biggest reason behind the gatekeeping of their whole ecosystem/software is to keep the customer trapped into their ecosystem, making it harder for them to leave without loosing out on all the features, while also making the experience of the close ones of that customer who use android an absolute nightmare by not allowing them to be able to using nice features such as airdrop or their messaging app (the whole blue and green bubble thing), it's more annoying than anything.
@FruityHachi
@FruityHachi 11 ай бұрын
it's not only annoying on an individual people, but people who use android actually get teased, bullied for not having apple products
@mattsanders2207
@mattsanders2207 Жыл бұрын
Great video! One of your best written and edited videos ever and on such an interesting subject. 🔥
@Drummer55
@Drummer55 11 ай бұрын
Did you just say, "Apple is doing it's part to play nice?" Huh? Apple and nice in the same sentence is insane.
@GusPagan
@GusPagan 11 ай бұрын
Your argument is completely pointless. You will not be forced to sideload apps, but you will be able to do it if you want to. Also, you're really blinded to the reality when you say that "people chose the iPhone" when in fact people are reliant on iMessages by standard in the US. Apple purposely close iMessages system to other phone users (green bubbles are SMS based) because they will sell more iPhones that way. If it was a proprietary tech or something, that would be ok, but there is plenty of other apps that do exactly the same as iMessages, even better apps, but since iMessages is the standard by a long shot, the people will be resistant to change by default. If you don't wanna sideload, just don't do it, but let me do whatever I want for what I've already paid for.
@hansmeyer811
@hansmeyer811 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video but I strongly diagree
@null_spacex
@null_spacex Жыл бұрын
You disagree with what exactly?
@jbaenaxd
@jbaenaxd Жыл бұрын
What cookie? Literally, the EU is saying, or you change the USB port, or you can't sell here. They don't have more options 😂. But that's a good thing, Apple core values are not going to change because of sideloading. Actually it's the opposite, no one can imagine a Mac without sideloading (p.e. brew), it would be useless. In a few years, we will look back and see all the advantages we got from the sideloading and the USB-C
@ChickenBG7
@ChickenBG7 Жыл бұрын
No way you made a video this sophisticated and defended one of the biggest companies just because you don't want consumers to have more freedom... Neither the USB C nor this bring ANYTHING negative to the table. Literally Apple can just give you the ability to install third party application stores and just put a warning that says it's not controlled by them and they don't take any responsibility, and then whoever wants to use it can do that. Sure, "destroying company values" is something that could happen but when your values have been to make your devices irreparable e-waste and squeeze every last cent of your customer, then yes, they must be changed.
@sm_2817
@sm_2817 Жыл бұрын
I think Apple is better off under pressure. This way they’ll have to go above and beyond to remain competitive. A win for customers.
@glyakk
@glyakk Жыл бұрын
Yes yes and yes! I completly do not agree with that argument that this is anti consumer. Apple has benefited from their innovation which they should! but they have a walled garden that traps users once they are in. Maybe some are blissfully ok with that, but there are many, I would even argue most, that aren't! There is nothing from stopping apple from being apple in these requests with the only exception that if you find yourself deep in the apple koolaid and decide you don't want to be there anymore you have options to branch out if you wish without having to change everything.
@xredrum41x
@xredrum41x Жыл бұрын
They do what they do to provide better products, what we want, impacts their bottom line and impacts that ever make better products.
@steeztheday
@steeztheday Жыл бұрын
Great video and I definitely see your points. However, I believe that Apple was either going to transition or was 1 generation away from transitioning to USB-C anyway. So as much as it seems as if they were complying it was really more timing. Nearly their entire line up of iPads, MacBooks, HomePod etc have been USB-C for years now. Even the charging bricks for iPhones have been USB-C for a couple years now. I honestly think the company decision was based on being mindful of consumers dismay and technology catching up for it to make more sense.
@Stan_sprinkle
@Stan_sprinkle Жыл бұрын
I agree. Customers have been asking for this.
@halfalawn3125
@halfalawn3125 Жыл бұрын
was expecting apple to go portless on the iphone, and go wireless only to comply with EU regulations. was so glad and amazed to be proven wrong.
@jjunture
@jjunture Жыл бұрын
Love this longer form content. You make some of my favorite documentary-style videos.
@gzy2001
@gzy2001 Жыл бұрын
Rather than the ecosystem perspective, I rather hope Apple would be forced to introduce m.2 slots in MacBooks, and drop part serialisation.
@amirnaim3675
@amirnaim3675 Жыл бұрын
Imo one of the reasons they had to switch to USB C is because they got rid of the audio jack. The audio jack was the only port that the iPhone shares with other phones. Since they got rid of it, EU had more power to force them to switch to usb c.
@CarlosStorms
@CarlosStorms Жыл бұрын
Has anyone thought that the reason Android is open is because it has no leverage to be closed? They NEED to be open, it’s not a choice
@xyz-ml9ff
@xyz-ml9ff Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by leverage? Just curious.
@michaelhall9146
@michaelhall9146 Жыл бұрын
I like this theory. I didn’t of it in this way. Interesting perspective.
@CarlosStorms
@CarlosStorms Жыл бұрын
@@xyz-ml9ff When Google started offering Android to OEMs, carriers and such, they could not afford to close and guard the system in order to facilitate adoption. This has resulted in Android being buggy, fragmented and slow to update. Apple has build their user base over time, so they built that leverage to stay closed by increasing bit by bit (pun intended) over the years.
@shivv5678
@shivv5678 Жыл бұрын
Why do they need it? What are they getting from open sourcing it?
@friedcatfood
@friedcatfood Жыл бұрын
@@shivv5678 Market share. Android is free and open source to make paid or ad-supported Google services more prominent. Less people would use Google Drive, Google Photos, Google Chrome, Google TV, etc. if Android wasn't so available for manufacturers to use.
@nilavaghatak
@nilavaghatak Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I disagree with your take on this matter. It is the job of the government to make policies that benefit its citizens. The EU officials are looking out for the European people. Big corporations (like Apple) cannot be allowed to continuously undermine consumer's best interests. Regulations are obviously required to keep corporate greed at bay. (Unfortunately in the US [and many other countries ], corporate lobbying has made the government completely inept. The corrupt politicians in act policies that benefit corporations and hurt the people.)
@mmadchef808
@mmadchef808 Жыл бұрын
Well I am not a citizen of any EU country and I don’t see how they are helping the consumer. Android is widely available so buy that and stop whining.
@JorossChrist
@JorossChrist Жыл бұрын
Mr tim cook
@nilavaghatak
@nilavaghatak Жыл бұрын
@@mmadchef808If Apple wants to sell its product in Europe, it has to follow European rules. No one is forcing Apple to sell to Europeans. Apple needs to stop winning.
@johnnyc0882
@johnnyc0882 Жыл бұрын
Proprietary ports need to end (they should be universal). I don’t know why they were so averse to usb-c on the iPhone since they were one of the first companies to use the port back in 2015 with the retina macbook. Also, if Apple allows apps from other app stores and something happens to the customer (identity theft, virus on the phone, etc) Apple as a company is not liable for anything that happens to the customer while using the phone. This is coming from an iphone user who likes, when using Android, installing launchers
@IdealistINFP
@IdealistINFP Жыл бұрын
Give Brian a raise, like, yesterday!! Prepare for other tech channels to start copying this format. You can feel it moments into the video that this is something fresh and new. I don’t care if someone else was doing this first, the duo of Jon and Brian… this feels like a powerhouse, and I’m ready for it. Damn, I’m so impressed with this. I hope it gets 47 bajillion views.
@OliverLopezF
@OliverLopezF Жыл бұрын
Nah, let me sideload apps, let me repair the phone myself!!
@Blindtechnician
@Blindtechnician Жыл бұрын
I was overjoyed when I found out that the iPhone got USB-C. Finally I can have one charging cable for everything. I’m still happy about it but I understand where you’re coming from and I do think that there needs to be a line that is drawn
@prod.gregupnext2958
@prod.gregupnext2958 Жыл бұрын
Yep now more people to ask for your charger
@Katzelle3
@Katzelle3 Жыл бұрын
Problem is though that Macbooks exist
@The92Waffles
@The92Waffles Жыл бұрын
certainly made switching from Android to iPhone easier this year since I didnt have to buy lightning stuff. Now is a great time to switch to iPhone if you've been holding out
@changein3d
@changein3d 9 ай бұрын
You can charge macbooks via USB-C, also the new Magsafe ones. 🙂 They just need more Watts than most phones, so if you really wanna use one cable for everything, you better have a strong power brick @@Katzelle3
@FallsFait
@FallsFait Жыл бұрын
Sideloading IS more choice. Nobody worth their pants in the software world would dare argue otherwise Apple doesn't let us, the actual consumers and an OWNER of one of their devices, preform basic admin functionalities and specifically disallows the end user from being able to control iOS to any significant degree w/o zero day exploits of the software that they technically own a license to. The issue is that by the inherit design of their lockdown layer, like only allowing executable applications be downloaded from their AppStore, though the underlying software would otherwise, is the mechanism to how they've been found guilty of anti-competitive practices, and this is undeniable. This is certainly not good for Apple, but a move they had to make and will have to adapt to in order to remain relevant (which they'll almost certainly be lol, but definitely different from how their devices run the software layer now)
@formbi
@formbi 10 ай бұрын
"software that they technically own a license to" but the license doesn't respect user freedom (that's why people should push for FOSS)
@jfigarr
@jfigarr Жыл бұрын
Damn FPT team! These “more serious” videos are at another level 💪🏾. The video quality, clips, transitions, script AND delivery are 🥇🥇🥇
@JDA2790
@JDA2790 Жыл бұрын
Hands down the best video from FPT, I could watch a 3 hour version of this without checking the time.
@richv1893
@richv1893 Жыл бұрын
Apple made a strategic move by giving in on USB-C because that wasn't the fight to have, but this is where Apple must and I believe will draw the line in the sand.
@auslandermercury972
@auslandermercury972 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking. Let’s hope Apple concurs.
@bfeyalcin
@bfeyalcin Жыл бұрын
"If the EU was tring to force Android to be locked down like iOs, would you be ok with that?" has to be the funniest fallacy I have ever heard. It's like saying: "It is not right for governments to have the power to ban people from shooting you in the face. If the government was forcing people to shoot you in the face, would you be ok with that?". LMAO of course not. How is this a valid argument?
@vulbyte
@vulbyte 10 ай бұрын
I disagree with this. There's multiple things that I understand but there's also multiple that I'm completely kind of dumbfounded on. USB-C was a standard that was code, developed by Apple. almost every product. Apple makes now has USB-C except for like two products. Sorry mate but you bit the apple
@DreamsOfLegend
@DreamsOfLegend Жыл бұрын
This was a yoga stretch Jon 😅 I know you're team Apple Boy but you're defending corporate GREED bro... universal charging port? Removable batteries? Opened app ecosystem? Geezus man calm down, I love Kool aid myself but...
@Big-H517
@Big-H517 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this going back to the ship part. The “Keel” of the ship it’s the main support for it all. Changing the keel of a ship means it’s not the original ship anymore because don’t you have to take all the parts off the ship to reach the keel? The keel is basically the core of Apple what they made. Damaging that part means the ship will sink it won’t even make it to its next destination if it’s crack all the way through from the middle. The EU is actively going after that and to severely damage it. If Tim Cook has common sense Apple was created in America foreign nations should not govern how a company runs and I’m fully behind on that being a power trip to force a company. The USB type C in my opinion was a long awaited change for them to ditch lightning. They never changed it or altered it to keep up with Type C. The company in my opinion was beating a dead horse and needed to find better innovative ways to improve on that. I’m glad the EU gave them a push. They took a quarter and Apple allowed it and now they are trying to take a mile. Going back to where Apple was made. I agree they should threaten the EU with not selling in the EU anymore. “Grab his dick and Twist it” from that awesome meme.
@paramaartha
@paramaartha Жыл бұрын
one piece reference?
@-_YouMayFind_-
@-_YouMayFind_- Жыл бұрын
I will be fine without apple products. EU should start a fight againsy Americas ridiculous capitalism that is now destroying us all. We have so many other phones and good products so he will definitely lose a lot of consumers with thay
@donDanDeNiro
@donDanDeNiro Жыл бұрын
Okay a lot to unpack, but lets take on the conclusion. First of all, why are you claiming Apple doesnt want to change when they indeed changed from desktop computing to ubiquitous computing? You also brought up a video about the Apple colours, where are they now? Second of all, since when was the EU a competitor of Apple? Please mention a phone, laptop, watch, goggles, etc. created and sold by the EU? Third, simple economics lets anyone know that being the only one on top does not promote sustainable growth, that's why monopolies are heavily regulated. Promotion of competition is ACTUALLY healthy.
@PersonPersonsen
@PersonPersonsen 10 ай бұрын
what the f?! is these people bots? how are they supporting this video?
@vjtech17
@vjtech17 Жыл бұрын
You have covered an extremely important topic! This is indeed a slippery slope. And it is not just the EU, other countries are seeing what just happened. Expect such regulations dictating even the implementation going forward from EU and other countries😟 It will not be the Apple Car or Vision pro, it may be the stance Apple takes on this that decides Tim Cook's legacy before he retires.
@changein3d
@changein3d 9 ай бұрын
It's really not that bad. around 2010, all phone manufacturers were deciding to settle on just one connector for their new models (to avoid regulations from the EU). They decided on micro USB. Except Apple. They announced lightning. They are the reason why there is a need for this regulation. To sideloading: Imagine windows without sideloading. You can only download programs from the windows store. Would be pretty restrictive, right? People couldn't customise their software if they needed to. Mac also allows sideloading, resulting in millions of little applications that are designed to help you and to solve specific problems, made by anything different than huge companies who can afford getting their apps approved by apple.
@juancuevas7329
@juancuevas7329 Жыл бұрын
They are gatekeeping, if I switch today from android to apple I have to repurchase everything that is not transferable again on the app store and they make sure that you only use their Marketplace I mean imagine you buying a house but when you buy that house they tell you, you can only shop at the walmart down the street not publix or whole foods just walmart how would you feel not only that why can't I get my apps straight from the developer or be able to install my own apps that's why it's such a pain in the ass to install Netflix on iPhone
@jacksonville4932
@jacksonville4932 Жыл бұрын
100% Facts. Gate keeping is the NICE way to put it. They make it IMPOSSIBLE to transfer apps, but thankfully allow regular files to be transferred. Regardless like you said, you’d have to rebuy EVERYTHING that came with your phone if you buy an android. And no, I don’t want to buy 2 fucking phones. Apple should be the first company to make gatekeeping redundant, and they would make WAY more when everyone knows they can upgrade to iPhone but it will support android apps, or android backup
@JohnnyCosme
@JohnnyCosme Жыл бұрын
Hilarious. "BEING ABLE TO SIDELOAD IS SO SCARY!!!”
@Ashlord
@Ashlord Жыл бұрын
Absolute masterpiece! An avid Android user here, and I completely agree. Would love to keep seeing this type of content from you guys.
@NerdyNomadJohn
@NerdyNomadJohn Жыл бұрын
Google already allows the choice of App Store and choice of NFC payment. Apple doesn’t.
@Localtravel3r
@Localtravel3r Жыл бұрын
@@NerdyNomadJohngoogle doesn’t care about any experience, they just want your data.
@marcozelioli
@marcozelioli Жыл бұрын
I have watched half the video and I do not at all like where this is going. Let's not pretend that Apple or Facebook or Microsoft care in any way about their consumers. Their loyalty lies with their shareholders and stakeholders. The lightning port was horrible in many ways, locking the consumer into the apple ecosystem, it's horrible design which made it susceptible to breakages, not to mention the environmental problems of electric waste. It is peek Apple fanboy deliusion to think that this is in any way shape or form bad. Not to mention your debating style. The metaphor with the mouse and the cookie is stupid and I could make the opposite argument where apple is the mouse, the consumer is the boy and us letting them get away with their shitty design choices is giving them the cookie. Whats next? Making their iphones break after 5 years? Oh wait they already did that... Update: I have watched the entire video now and my suspicions were right. I do not feel the need to further edit my comment.
@jinxyj08
@jinxyj08 Жыл бұрын
Not a commenter for the most part, but this was a fantastic video. I work in compliance dealing with these types of regulations and this was a super well executed video. Bravo, Jonny P!
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