This Is The Moment John Marston Talks About Arthur Morgan For The First Time

This Is The Moment John Marston Talks About Arthur Morgan For The First Time
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[@tate2278]

Red dead three would be amazing if it starts off when Dutch and Hosea and Arthur start the gang and the end of the game would be the black water massacre

[@norfangl3480]

But there's no redemption

[@cucyos1772]

absolutely agreed

[@sandiwch1247]

​@@norfangl3480 you could play as one of the people who died in Blackwater massacre. They decided to sacrifice themselves in a courage last stand in a gunfight with hundreds of lawmen. As you try to kill them it ends in a cut scene where a bullet goes directly through this protagonists head. As they slowly fall you see Arthur look back in sadness and rdr3 title card comes up with a beautiful soundtrack. Idk what they could do for an epilouge though

[@norfangl3480]

@@sandiwch1247 they wouldn't redeem themselves, for what? A gang that's already doomed to collapse? And who would you have? Because they're certainly not mentioned in RD2. Charles quite literally says the Arthur has a chance to make amends, unlike previous members like Mac and Davey who were a 'vicious pair of bastards'.

[@CozmicTTV]

Maybe for rdr3?

[@Maligale.]

Honestly the strange man saying “you’ve forgotten far more important people than me” is more of a reference to Arthur’s existence

[@ASTROGOW19]

*Exactly*

[@Madflog01]

What he didn't forget him he just st found it very hard to talk about him, strange man was referring to the people he's hurt and killed

[@quebec8557]

Exact

[@edward9232]

He's talking about all the people he's killed, like the girl that died from the raid on the ferry

[@Madflog01]

@@edward9232 he didn't kill her tho but yeah it would still weigh on him

[@spilledmilk5743]

Bro got a master degree in procrastination 💀

[@MadmanHelldiver]

On god man, this was straight up egregious

[@anthony8241]

That’s why I thumbs down the video

[@WarFoxThunder]

Lmaoo frfr

[@MRbug_423]

Guy should've talked more about Rockstar remaking rdr1 instead of coming up with enough stuff for 20 seconds

[@JaydenO4068]

He’s got a masters degree in yapping

[@hunterjones6647]

We don’t need a rewritten game where Arthur is the Jesus of the read dead series and everyone references him. The fact that in the epilogue of RDR2 Abigail tells Jack that it’s too painful for John to talk about is a good enough explanation as to why he isn’t referenced.

[@hakobo2744]

Then John proceeds to say “I’ll still talk about him, just, what is there to say?” So it’s not too painful for him, he’s just really bad when it comes to expressing his emotions

[@stevenbruno7710]

If they remake RD1 or not either way the story still ends the same. Arthur changes to help John get out with his family. John’s past catches up to him and kills his prior brothers to save his family but is betrayed by the pinkertons. Then Jack grows up to continue the cycle of violence😭

[@loyalperson69]

A few references would actually be nice though

[@VaDeR173]

No you reaching bro.

[@ultraspeedy4911]

It is of course but it’s cool at least to pretend

[@kennethjennings5312]

That’s a leap

[@bullinapeamurica5940]

Damn bro this looks like my cat right after he wakes up. A stretch.

[@idontneednoritalin]

i know a stretch when i see one and it 100% sounds like he’s referring to arthur but keep hating i guess

[@ti2218]

Good one!

[@j3ss3.]

@@idontneednoritalin it literally doesn't

[@thatgothcat]

@@idontneednoritalin Nope no reference to Arthur keep dreaming bud.

[@iisChOoLboy]

@@idontneednoritalin Are you trolling or what?

[@fatlacesthedon]

How is this a "strong reference?" 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@ASTROGOW19]

😑

[@user-rl4gd9dx4b]

You know MrBOSS

[@Matthew-jw4ds]

It also refers to him having trouble to stay in one place during the epilogue it's made clear that him, Abigail and Jack had to move a lot because as Abigail says, keeps acting like a hero.

[@fatlacesthedon]

@@Matthew-jw4ds I want some of whatever you're smoking lmfao

[@Ragnar-gl6ly]

Never believe that guy he's like tuberculosis

[@saulisfunny]

This actually references what happens at the end of the game, he stay at the ranch so his family can live.

[@whoasked4539]

No actually this doesn't represent shit 💀

[@saulisfunny]

@@whoasked4539 it does, second of all did your girlfriend of one week breakup with you?

[@whoasked4539]

@@saulisfunny Who asked?

[@whoasked4539]

@@saulisfunny Also it doesn't represent shit this is Just Marston saying what hes saying in rdr2. Doesn't have anything to do with epilogue or prologue. Im pretty sure i'd know because this game came out before rdr2.

[@saulisfunny]

@@whoasked4539 not epilogue Red Dead One, and second of all, is your only comeback who asked?

[@FinalFriday13]

omg thank god this was a short because if it was a video you would of dragged it out longer you even tried to drag it out….

[@WarFoxThunder]

IKR

[@jakeblock2489]

It’s cool how people use the foreshadowing for John sacrificing himself as him referencing Arthur

[@diablonorway1816]

“get to the fucking point!”and I saw it was mrboss and it all made sense

[@LowHonorMorgan]

I thought I threw this 🤡 on my “don’t recommend this channel list” but I guess not. I’m about to fix that though. Dude annoys the shit out of me.

[@fotiskou]

Thats because they never intended to make a rdr2

[@riley4198]

They definitely did, they started production of rdr2 a week after 1 released

[@fotiskou]

@@riley4198 i heard different but that's ok if you know better.i believe if they wanted to connect a rdr2 they would make even a reference at least to Arthur who is the second protagonist

[@Jun-Kyard]

@@riley4198 They didn't plan rdr2 before seeing the success of rdr1.

[@riley4198]

@@Jun-Kyard I highly doubt that, it is stated that RDR2 production started shortly after the release of RDR1. Recording sessions didn’t start until late 2012.

[@Jun-Kyard]

@@riley4198 They didn't even think Rdr1 was gonna be profitable due to the high budget. Shortly after can mean a week, which is enough to see that your game is successful. Agree to disagree.

[@diffsnicker]

John wasn't talking about Arthur John was talking about his own decision to abandon the gang life and stay at Beecher's hope with his family. Still a very deep conversation though!

[@conner6913]

That literally had no reference to Arthur Morgan at all. John was talking about standing up for what is right by someone.

[@JohnSmith-xk6ug]

You're gonna throw out your shoulder reaching like this

[@BlueWallFull4331]

Takes hat off his head “we ain’t both gonna make it” Puts hat on johns head I can’t watch the ending of that game without crying to this day. The whole horse ride back to the camp to confront Micah…. Game of the millennia !

[@Deadman1000]

"When the time comes, you gotta ride and don't look back..." -Arthur Morgan

[@door1852]

even in short mrboss still find a way to make a short video 3 times longer

[@iisChOoLboy]

Love both games. Massive reach.

[@Mr.Moore23]

The only video he hasn’t clickbaited us

[@nat2nathan2005]

Im finally replaying the story of RDR2, years after i first played it. Its breaking my heart every minute that i know Arthur wont make it... Amazing storytelling. I never expected them to top John Marston, but I'll be damned, they did it.

[@kneedol]

How does this even reference it like what???

[@jamesedward8069]

Marston "if you ask me it usually takes more strength to stay than to run" Arthur stayed to let Marston runaway

[@fatlacesthedon]

​@@jamesedward8069 it's not a reference, you can tie anything to anything in that vague context. When John Marston rides with the Armadillo sheriff and says "men are born, then they're formed" could be a reference to Hosea or Rains Fall

[@FaZeHyperion]

@@jamesedward8069 feels a bit like a reach

[@TheMinnesnowtan]

@@fatlacesthedon they literally made Arthur’s death around this couple word dialogue from John, fym

[@fatlacesthedon]

@@TheMinnesnowtan yeah, they did that years after. Doesn't make this a reference to that

[@froderickalabaster]

this game is a work of art. 2 was amazing but rdr1 is actually a transcendent masterpiece, it truly takes advantage of video games as an artistic medium.

[@LakeChoomba]

That "I think I've pushed all I can" still gets me every time. 🥺

[@CrimsonUniverse22]

Uh, John, Arthur’s lungs were malfunctioning, that’s why he couldn’t run with you. 😂

[@gerardwayseyelash]

It was still selfless

[@Skankhunt240]

Source: Trust me bro

[@absnnt]

If you think about it, John did the same thing for his family at the end of RDR1 that Arthur did for him at RDR2. Apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree.

[@wolfgangkillthemall8866]

Knowing the Definitive edition exists, I wouldn't want rockstar to even attempt at remastering rdr

[@DEP1323]

I have always wondered why Arthur never passed the Tuberculosis illness to the others in the gang

[@harmonixdraws5298]

Simply put he doesn't cough or spit on anyone in the gang, he's always seen coughing away from other people. TB generally is contracted though a direct contact with fluids expelled from the mouth, wether that be blood or spit. Likely through your mouth, eyes, or any other open wound. It's not contracted through say a kiss, TB is expelled from the lungs when coughing or sometimes even speaking/singing. Arthur was simply careful around his fellow gang members, therfore he avoided spreading it within the gang.

[@FastwayIndustries]

I cried so much at that ending, first video game to ever make me feel that way

[@Foo_thegoat]

"it takes more courage to stay than leave!" Me when i get the last mission that includes herding

[@CallMeNycze]

RDR 1 NEEDS REMAKE

[@TheConmanOfConway]

RDR3 would be perfect if you played as sadie and charles redeeming themselves as normal citizens and not gang members right after Arthur dies. imagine switching between charles and sadie GTA 5 style on the same map with 2 separate campaigns for them but you can make them meet and talk about the past with the switch system.

[@darthsmoke6652]

Its so hard to have a favorite... Jack, John, or Arthur.... so hard... ❤❤

[@Dylan-ji1xx]

I want rdr 3 to be another prequel. I want to play as hosea or Dutch and see the formation of the gang

[@nduduzomchunu6932]

Imagine playing as both 🤔like GTA 5 style

[@THATDOOD420]

If they did remake it would be cool to duel wield in the original as well as once you beat the epilogue as Jack you can explore Mexico, the normal map and it’ll open the RDR2 map and even expand the story beyond the original game. It’s a pipe dream but it still would be cool lol

[@davidlopez7378]

Honestly I like red dead 1 way more than 2

[@christianolivarez9049]

Arthur literally didn’t even exist yet when the first red dead redemption game came out

[@Lupo32]

The developers said they had thr concept Of him but he wasen't created yet .... That's why you know about mac & davey Callendar in rdr 2 .

[@user-lx5sh8cg4d]

That's why high honor and help john is the only canon ending

[@LeviSquidman]

There’s a difference between giving advice and referencing someone

[@BOB-j4t]

Nothing about arthur is in rdr1 because he wasnt even thought of as a character yet he was made when rdr2 was made

[@jy2334]

Its heartbreaking nothing will ever beat that first playthrough 💯

[@riley4198]

Arthur wasn’t thought of dude.

[@thestutterinone8768]

You love your own voice don't you

[@GeorgeCoggins]

rdr3 could be following jack and have alot of playable flashbacks to stuff we didnt get to see in either

[@themadtitan7603]

What's with creators passing off this scene as "that time John refrences Arthur" when he doesn't nor is he quoting his advice. He's preaching his own about staying requiring more courage than to run away.

[@Kashmelano]

“I think I’ve pushed all I can” 😢😢

[@yehiasedik8172]

now there is no remake

[@shayreno1461]

"Call me Bonnie..."

[@silentfox8460]

they planned out both games really well

[@sooramk9569]

Yes we badly need that red dead redemption 1 re work

[@dominicuccello9832]

Honestly I think he was referring to the fact that it takes more courage to stay with a family than to run off trying to make money like he used to

[@Runner-fz5qg]

Technically while the events of the first game were written and certain characters did exist Arthur wasn’t one of them he was created after the first games release as the protagonist of the second game to see the falling out of the gang that led to the events of the first game

[@12thGenNewton]

Arthur hadn’t even been thought of at this point. This was not a reference.

[@Just_Tesa]

You and a few other select KZbinrs make me dread new Rockstar games.

[@mridulbisht9865]

I broke down when Arthur said “oh I think I’ve pushed all I can”.

[@crescentsister7467]

Me, out of shape on a run: no… I think I pushed all I can 😮‍💨

[@rafaelgallegos1044]

Just imagine if they added a DLC that would be a remake of Red Dead 1

[@montagex]

Thats what we need 😭😭😭😭

[@cjmodmanboom8518]

Why would they make a whole new game as a dlc

[@virtueonski275]

I would love if they remade it then brought the journal back. Doing all the challenges as a kid with no internet was the best grind I've ever done 👏👏👏

[@stinkybacon2210]

I remember when I first started playing red dead 2. I also strongly remember when I finished the story 😭

[@wesv13]

I sobbed whe Arthur gave him the hat and satchel

[@TuorTheBlessedOfUlmo]

Athur dying was the saddest part for me. It was when john says lets go arthur! And he replies "no,no i think ive pushed all i can" in that moment i knew what Arthur intended and it broke me. I honestly had to stop playing for a week whilst i processed it

[@Takhar7]

Still waiting for that "strong reference" there, champ

[@AmondoDazz]

I was so excited to see the reference till I actually heard it. I was so confused till I saw the name

[@ipetriga90]

Sounds more like he's referencing his own "run" from the gang, then realizing it was wrong and that he should have accepted his responsibilities as a member of the Van Der Linde gang and as a father to Jack.

[@ViceStudios02]

Even in youtube shorts you still manage to talk for 90% of the video

[@AreMullets4AustraliansOnly]

Nope, the way the writers went with it was ‘John doesn’t even wanna talk about Arthur, he’s too upset and compartmentalises it to survive’. That’s the story, there’s a few minor dialogue similarities to give some level of seamlessness and realism but otherwise, that’s it.

[@2.0wen]

This also references the build up of events for John Marston to end up on the Fortnite item shop as a legendary skin. Didn't catch it? Just rewatch the video, you'll hear it after Mr.boss gets done talking in the last 10 seconds of the video.

[@skullmask47]

Dawg you just read the top comment from the video you took this from

[@sniping2319]

"Nope, *coughs* nope, I've pushed all I can..."

[@Ahmed-rl2mm]

Red dead series are a unique one, its not the other it progresses backwards

[@garrit_8642]

I just got to the death of Arthur I had no idea it went on this game is amazing

[@Tea23145]

I thought he was gonna cough Lmaooo 💀

[@LVL_UPgaming]

Wasn’t the context of this conversation about McFarlands ranch being attacked constantly/her brothers dying and the McFarlands not wanting to leave the area but choosing to stay.

[@SockTheBop]

Arthur did not exist conceptually at this point. Rather than being a reference, it was quotes like these that may have played a part in the creation of his character

[@thewok7104]

we should get a game with an alternative timeline where Arthur lives

[@dylak4560]

Next time please don't spend 80% of the video speaking while saying literally nothing.

[@zlhominglz]

This is an old one right mr. Boss fk the world (can't believe people watch him now)😭😭

[@justijess5233]

I think it's because while the character Arthur had not been created yet, they had an idea of him, the concept of him existed

[@beaver2271]

There ain’t gonna be a clip of John or anyone in rdr1 talking bout Arthur cuz he was written after

[@fvwp]

Long live Arthur 🥺😭

[@Nakaaa]

Bro really tested my patience 💀

[@Alexander-xk2nb]

That was a Stretch Armstrong level reach

[@wobbles7492]

I’d love a red dead 3 where you play as a new character in the main story and Arthur in the epilogue during his year away from the gang, with the final mission being the black water massacre

[@Marfa1818]

Red dead 1 was so clunky that people were saying they were surprised it even ran it was held together by tape basically so a red dead 1 remake would be really difficult

[@MaximusPrime0835]

Old MrBoss back

[@Thatonekid3766]

That mr boss is forgotten

[@michaelstockton4680]

I was intrigued at first, and then I realized it was you

[@MrPatoPotato]

It’s kind of better but also sadder that Arthur isn’t mentioned. As Micah said, it’s been years and it’s a new century, the world has moved on. The time for gunslingers was/is ending.

[@mistertwister2000]

Dude wrote a whole thesis just for one line

[@chriscobayne2235]

I’d love a remake with a different end for Javier He was real cool in 2 Idunno how they messed that up making him likable then just killing him canonically. A whole remake with Sadie returning and maybe a different end for John would be sick af

[@WickedPuppetDancer]

Isn't it also a reference to his decision to stay and try and hold of Ross and co?

[@harryleighton]

John could never have mentioned arthur by name since the character of Arthur didn't exist when the game was released same with hosea, Sean, lenny and others

[@illilililli-_-gregbetter2715]

I think it would have been cool if you ran i to jimmy brooks in rdr1

[@ChodyBose]

Can we just admit that when red dead 1 was developed, they probably hadn’t even created the character of Arthur Morgan? This is stretching like crazy.

[@jakeforrester339]

Red dead is where my intrusive thoughts win 😂

[@Mack8361]

I'm not crying you are

[@connorclough4521]

Made me relive the death all over again I’m not crying you are

[@Julianhussle]

Clowns say he was never imagined or existed before not even a concept but he was definitely thought of and maybe just a blue print of him

[@user-hx6gs9rq7u]

The clowns are the ones saying he was thought of lol

[@brandonblank4919]

We need RDR 3 with Jack in the American prohibition in the mafia.