THIS is the ONLY problem with the Yamaha MT07... | 2021 Yamaha MT07 Mountain Review

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Today, in another episode of Chase uses himself as a test dummy, we're taking Yamaha's MT07 to the glorious north Georgia mountains to see if this crappy suspension can handle the curvy roads! We all know the suspension is probably the worst part of this motorcycle so we're asking a lot of it to handle mountain riding!
2021 Yamaha MT07 Mountain Test: (coming tomorrow)
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[@Moseswasntamerican]

Chase continued use of unstability instead of instability should been a drinking game.

[@theshmoe9513]

hes not very bright, his grammer is often flawed lol.

[@theshmoe9513]

below avg id say

[@diogocosta261]

I have an MT 07 22 and I can agree that, the main issue is the front suspension. But if you’re thinking getting one, go for it! It’s such a fun and easy to ride bike

[@BlakeLarsen3]

thanks, this is reassuring. I'm looking to pick one up next month!

[@dropagearnz]

Watch Dave Moss's video on waht to do with the suspension. It changed the bike completely for me. No more bouncing. Brakes got a whole lot better too

[@sYmpoZiuM1234]

The sad thing about the front suspension on the MT07 is that Yamaha could have shipped it with 15w fork oil and it would feel planted and confidence inspiring! It's a super easy fix for them!

[@AmritGrewal31]

Chase is heavier. He seems aprox just as heavy as me. So, 20w would suit him better

[@chuckbglass]

Im 180 plus gear, you think 15 or 20? I have 15, and the spacers cut

[@jacksonlee2279]

@@AmritGrewal31 around what weight would that be? Asking for a friend :)

[@factoryrider9537]

even with the oil change, the suspension is still pretty awful plus the chassis is about as stable as my mental health xD

[@SirMountainpass]

Swap to Öhlins parts that are available - it will transform the bike on the twisties. And yes, do not forget to have S22 performance rubber fitted😉🏁🏁✌️

[@hanlille1395]

Just got this bike, and have just ridden 125’s beefore, and have never done a wheehlie, but this bike is so damn easy to wheelie🤌🏻

[@Brian_R6]

Bro the camera car footage really makes the videos🔥 it's the different angles an views for me. Great video

[@Nathan_1492]

MT-07 is awesome but no 1 bike is perfect for all uses, that’s why we all gotta have multiple bikes!

[@aaa84gt]

Same goes for cars

[@zerokool327]

OC loved how you made it to the top and found another mt07 lol. This is the bike I'm planning on getting and every video Ive watched, the suspension is a huge talking point. Granted I won't be taking it on the mountains and not so much on the highway/expressway either but I feel like I should upgrade it.

[@infantryboyz09]

OC: Color change through the seasons is always better, Thank you for the amazing views! The highway test vid definitely help with my decision making as well.

[@XMotoMedia94]

I agree 💯 The suspension isn’t good is you’re interested in aggressive riding but overall it’s a great bike. I would just upgrade the suspension.

[@alydoodlr6562]

OC: love love the trees when they're changing colors in the fall.

[@PasquiDente]

I'd love to see the same "tests" on the new mt09 too ;)

[@IProKrazyKiller]

me as well

[@gihfjtuena779]

The mt09 is ugly as hell

[@Frank_Torre]

OC: That view from the overlook makes the ride up the mountain so worth it every weekend.

[@carlosvejar3938]

I like this format. These are great reviews. Thank you for answering my questions

[@carlosvejar3938]

Please review CBR 650r and the z650 in this format if possible please and thank you

[@carlosvejar3938]

OC coming from Vegas, trees are better when they exist, we don't have many in the desert

[@grahamhamilton7875]

The front suspension can be almost fixed by replacing the fork oil with 15 wt oil or even 20wt oil. The spring rates are ok for someone with a full riding gear weight of approx 95 - 100kg or more. Dial the rear shock rebound damping all the way out and then in approx one full turn.. the play with the spring tension to suit your weight.

[@CarloPentel]

I was able to set the rear preload to help stiffen it up. For the front, i changed the fork oil weight and that stiffened it up. Now its alwats planted and i always look forward to twisties with my XSR7.

[@davidgearardo1788]

Love riding up there, that’s the walasi yi center or whatever it’s called, the literal start of the APpalachian trail

[@ewreck661]

Translating what I know about performance driving. It sounds like the ideal trainer bike. Some one like me who wants to take the leap from four wheels to two, it sounds like I’ll be able to use the limitations of the suspension and the action of the throttle to learn to be a more capable rider faster. The mountain canyons are where I learned to elevate my driving skills. I’ll be doing the same when I get my MT-07. Safety first of course.

[@johnjohnson5496]

OC: what an absolutely beautiful view in those mountains!

[@drbigmix7752]

Adrenaline inducing corner wiggles - mid to high speed cornering becomes a borderline terrifying experience

[@rabbychan]

@@lukescholtz2726 MT500

[@Tw0001]

| have the 2018 model and this will be my 3rd year riding it. I don't get out on it much and I've only put 6k on it to date. I haven't noticed any instability yet but I also don't push it very hard in the turns. With practice I've learned how to reduce the throttle without fully cutting it to get the desired amount of engine braking, when coming off the throttle don't go to full stop, leaving a "tiny" fraction of a degree of throttle from idle will allow you to control the amount of EB effect.

[@mtthunder7]

Nice video chase.Make more videos about mt 03 too.

[@trevorwotring3945]

I can say I have a 2015 FZ07 with clip on‘s and it rides amazing in the twisties no instability

[@theALLMITiY]

Enjoyed the vid. Gave me some more overview before getting a mt07. I would like to see this type of same review but with the new xsr900.

[@vandall0160]

I had the same issue, riding Deals Gap and Cherehola on a regular basis because its in my backyard. I ended up tightening the back shock, did nothing to the front and found that in the tight twisties and tightening apexes of the Smokey's, sitting at a far rear position in tight turns (as is the norm) the front end ended up getting very stable and feels really good, I assume due to not loading it up in that riding position. 6 feet tall and 220 pounds and have 3.5K miles on the 2021, no complaints at this point, but have seen other riders speak to the front end death wiggle when hitting changing surfaces, and I think there may be a few factory defects out there as I have never experienced this on some of the curviest roads East TN has, and they are a plenty. I am selling the ZX-9R in the garage to a friend in favor of the MT-07, for comfort, and all around fun, and the fact that I am not getting in any track time, the MT-07 is my choice of everything out there I have ridden in the 2020-2022 realm. The most fun you can have with your helmet on IMHO.

[@spcjunk]

Picked up my 2022 Mt07 a month ago and so far I am loving it! I switched over from a Harley bagger, was looking for something a little sportier without having to lay on the tank, this thing fits the bill perfectly.

[@jeremymantyla3612]

What color

[@nickathans1898]

I did the same exact thing recently 😂

[@brianpoklay7075]

Anyone looking to own one should look up Dave Moss's video on the mt 07 suspension. In fact, just watch any of his videos, they're super informative. I wish they'd install stiffer springs and heavier oil from the get go, but the bike is quite low in price, so I can see why Yamaha chose what to skip to save in pricing.

[@demon817]

I got the bike changed the fork fluid, brake pads EBC front and back and handle bars, Air filter, Mivv full GP Carbon exhaust and flash and started to brake in. As good as my 2018 MT09 in the mountains.

[@larriemaxwell5266]

Hi. Which handlebars you bought? I'm thinking of changing the original ones as their angle is just not right my arms are in a weird position with them

[@17jhorne-smith99]

fortunately/or unfortunately if money is an issue, they do now have öhlins upgrades for the forks and shock now, it’s just a shame they couldn’t just stiffen them a tad from the factory, other than that lovely bike, also…….Chase….love the content, keep it up bro 🙂

[@tt-bo7px]

First thing I noticed was how soft the suspension is. I swapped out my front fork oil from 10w to 15w and the difference was substantial! Literally rides like a completely different bike, I highly recommend doing so as a quick fix before anything else. I did it in about 4hr in my garage

[@cadenlebato4085]

how heavy are you? I weigh 160, hoping I won’t have to do this.

[@g-moneyrides8341]

Gotta get an R6 throttle tube. Takes that "Hit" away.

[@AGPullen]

OC: Trees are some much better in fall! I'd love to take one of these new MT's out for a rip. Both the 07 and 09!

[@roxze772]

yea 3rd gear is punchy it feels smoother in 4th or 5th tbh and keeping the throttle cracked while trail breaking in the turn helps it feel smoother than using the throttle to control the speed in the turn. at higher speeds past the power band it feels easier and more stable

[@FSZou]

喜歡這些探討使用情境系列的評測😃

[@Josh.Jordan]

Maybe

[@SB-fe4gt]

Finally...somebody that is honest about the handling being questionable as you push the bike harder.

[@SeanOzz]

interesting, i live in the mountains in colorado and have yet to notice any wobby in the curves. will pay more attention and see.

[@pantysnifer927]

You can change the throttle handel for a 2008 R6 one, its 30% shorter to full throttle, its much more comfortable!

[@paulwood1302]

Hi guys your all right its soft and horrible. Easy fix though , just replace fork springs and oil , I used k tech springs supplied to my weight and a 20 weight oil, took me a hr to do , no special tools required, she is now super fun in the corners holds her line and planted not bouncing round like space hopper .

[@LuPy532]

I ordered an mt-07 2023, gonna get it in a week or two, can't wait!

[@skywalker4055]

update us when you get it! ride safe

[@LuPy532]

@@skywalker4055 Got it three weeks ago, having a BLAST with it! I AM LOVING IT!!

[@skywalker4055]

@@LuPy532 awesome! I will be getting one this month hopefully. Ride safe and congrats!

[@LuPy532]

@@skywalker4055 Thank ypu so much! You won't regret getting one, I got the Icon Blue one, it's beautiful!

[@iw5722]

I drive this Bike since 2022 and I love it as woman it is light weight but enough power❤

[@highlandriders9696]

OC: Yes a variety of colours makes the aesthetics of the view much more appealing. Interesting comments about the MT07 suspension, I think the Z800e suffers the same, great for "highway" (we dont have highways in Scotland) but a wee bump in a corner and the whole bike wants to move.

[@factoryrider9537]

it's also a big chassis problem, the same issue occurs on several tube frame kawasakis like the z750, er6, z650, z900, etc they're really wobbly

[@Snotroggel453]

@@factoryrider9537lol my z900 is extremely stable on highways, never had any ‘wobbly’ moments also in turns.. reason why i choose the Z over the mt09.

[@someguyontheinternet7165]

Unstability. 😆 Chase. I love you. Never change.

[@hyperrhino9258]

Love the "average Joe (Chase)" reviews

[@kevinh6576]

nice video sir, is it hot while riding the MT07? and in which season were you testing this bike. Since i live in a tropical country, the summer is kinda hot but is that we dont have winter so i can ride all year long.

[@davidgearardo1788]

Getting an mt07 tomorrow good to know

[@izzy8609]

How has the bike been treating you so far?

[@ozzmanaut8161]

OC - I can't say I prefer fall colors or full green over the other.

[@Riders_Pulse]

OC: would we be able to install that 'stress member' for the R7 and put it ok the MT07?

[@tylermassey4761]

I cut down the spacer by 1/4 inch and changed to 20W oil at a slightly higher level. Suspension feels way better.

[@TypicalMT]

Did you have to put it on a stand? Or can I take the caps off with it just on its kickstand?

[@tylermassey4761]

@@TypicalMT you either need a head stand, or what I did was had some straps above the bike and lifted the front end up off the ground off of the handlebars after everything was loosened up. You will have to pull the fork tubes right off the bike. Whole process only took me a couple hours. (First time I have done anything like this)

[@jonhewitt3]

OC - like the autumn leaf colours. Brakes, would they be better if they had braided hoses?

[@getrichtrying]

That blinker in the beginning...

[@adamlewis942]

oc the chrome looks great but painted body color would be great

[@TROllingNINJA2031]

Showing off the new LED turn signal 🤣

[@v17v17v]

i have 2018 mt 07 and the suspension is ok til u get to a corner with bumps (they could be just small ones) and than suspension goes up an down like crazy. this bike is for city and going in straight line

[@demon817]

I know everyone in the shop has been using this bike for the last month, did you fix the suspension for your weight prior to this test 2. The old MT07 needed the front suspension shaved and a heavier fork oil to make it rock and roll. Not sure on the 2021 but just the fluid will make a big difference, just got one and that's what I'm doing right now fork oil change. The brakes just spend the $100 and drop the EBC pads in day and night that's what I did to my 2018 MT09 and going to do it to these front brakes, that are from the old MT09 that's how they saved money. Rear shock just going to need to up grade after you destroy this oem one which I been hearing is good for a year depending on your weight and driving. Ride safe stay safe.

[@Treizez34]

When you blipped it around the 6:35-6:45 mark to show how it gets a little squirrelly in a corner, you could definitely see the bike get unstable and move a little too much. Interesting…

[@mscoffi]

Maybe try 4th or 5th gear? The response will be much smother and the engine will still be torquey! Just saying!!!

[@DaMePaz]

Sir chase do you use a mic connecting to your camera ? If so which one

[@stubbingtonmarigold3032]

It’s so funny what east coasters call mountains hahaha “ those mountains “ points to some trees on a flat......

[@Underbottom.Sandydown]

10mm off the front fork spacers, thicker fork oil (15 weight or 20+ for thick bois) with an adjustable rear shock and aaaalll your suspension problems are gone. It'll never be a canyon carver or slice mountains it's supposed to sound better than harleys and look better that race bikes while keeping up with the pack and being rowdy. It's perfect.

[@walther89]

true even sport version is shait, 800eur investment needed

[@mindspinn311]

Rear preload needs to be near max, adjust rebound accordingly. The front is too soft and needs stiffer springs with preload adjusters. That said, I think you would find some minor adjustments to your riding style would help with this bike. First I would be riding the midrange in 4th gear, not the redline in 3rd. Throttle is too twitchy for that. Would help with the “unstability” in those dips. Also, a flash tune makes a big difference with that on/off throttle mapping. The fuel cut for emissions is the problem. I don’t understand how Triumph can get it so right and the Japanese bikes get it so wrong.

[@greenslime5655]

I ride a crf250l, which has super soft suspension. Would this feel any different aside from the power and weight? I'm a big boy at 260 lbs and 5'11.

[@do.on2wheels38]

That hit you are talking about is definitely sketchy. Had that happen on the track and almost lost it. Same thing with my fz09. Hammered the throttle with a little bit too much lean and got a bit squirrelly 😳

[@MrRui33333]

hello,.. I think the suspension is adjusted to the motorcycle,.. and it serves,.. for normal use, or even a little more accelerated,.. to emphasize that already in 2020 the suspension was a little improved, and it is noticed a lot when compared to the mt 07 models from 2014 to 2017,... then it will also depend on the rider's weight,.. for 60 to 65 kg,.. I would say it works well,..however, it can be improved and you don't even spend a fortune ,..but what I think happens is that certain people who know how to ride well, try to take their good cycling skills to the maximum,..and oh,. of course, the suspension starts missing ,..my advice is simple, instead of putting a 1200 euro akrapovik ,.. you can change the entire suspension from 07 ,... and then it's ready for trackday ,.. and other jokes...

[@mtmatt8958]

The headlight is the only problem lol suspension feels good on my 2019

[@MikeJohnson-gh8jb]

Bro u were goin so fast I was scared lol …but I’m a beginner rider and I think this is the best bike for me

[@aplest1785]

Longest outro 😅 but can say I stayed to the end lol

[@Username-so3yj]

Aye am I famous now at 11:01 my MT-03 was in the shot.

[@simonambo3681]

really want an MT07 but was exactly worried about the suspension and brake issues. even though i enjoy the ergonmics of the MT07 should i still opt for the R7? and then maybe putting dirt bike bars on it haha

[@8alakai8]

when going into corners on mt 07 i tend to have a tiny bit of throttle so i dont get that first hit so bad i know its not the way to do it but you sort of have to on this bike when pushing a bit

[@naturalforlife6741]

I have the same bike. I'm 150 lbs. and I don't have any problem with the front end. If you want to get more speed you need to up shift unlike most bikes where you down shift. You need to use the torque. If you want to get rid of the instant acceleration, you need to be in 4th instead of 3rd.

[@MT07R]

Do you ride pretty aggressive? Looking at picking this bike up and I weigh about 140-145

[@naturalforlife6741]

@@MT07R Not too much. When I had my Street Triple I use to wheelie it on purpose and accidentally some times. Just watch some beginner KZbin videos on wheeling. Always cover the rear brake to protect yourself. I kind of grew out of it. It is a thrill though.

[@stevenelliott5403]

Rear shock is awful, you only need to push the rear down and let it go to see how fast it goes up, I've had the back end step out going around a bend a lot, shock is the first thing to change

[@patrickwassall116]

$420 to Traxxion Dynamics and the front end will be fixed. Only really 'need' a clamp for the top of the fork tube so the cap and spring doesn't jettison itself into the nether.

[@patrickwassall116]

Oh yeah! They're in Georgia too! Forgot about that

[@santiagomoralesgarcia1802]

suspension is great from my country with not perfect road

[@OtterMachine]

All the issues you have with this latest MT07 is the same old issues since the first gen in 2014/2015 like the soft suspension, weak brakes, instability in corners and not so great factory tune (bad initial fueling on the get go). My 2014 MT07 (FZ07) has all these same issues you mentioned, although my suspension is a little better cause it has thicker oil and had the spacer cut down. Even so, I LOVE this bike and I wouldn't trade it in for ANYTHING else. ___ OC: More colours the better... on trees. lol.

[@righteous247]

OC my favorite trees are purple

[@PleeseCallMeDan]

Left blinker was on the entire time haha

[@ridehead8771]

The 03 gets the upside down forks..just shows how this model is not given the respect it deserves by Yamaha.

[@mmcleve]

Yes

[@rockspydre]

OC: Doesn’t the R7 have an upgraded front suspension? That could have a lot to do with the lack of feeling planted on the MT-07. Along with the stress member.

[@chaseontwowheels]

It sure does and yea you are totally right on that.

[@8alakai8]

the wobbler in corners is fine is have been riding for a while you just ride with it no proplems

[@HONDALUIGI21]

That signal light or turn indicator

[@dorinluciano]

how do you change from mph to kmh on the mt 07 2021? and how do you turn the light on the dash down a bit and up when needed?

[@am-se8ul]

You can check your owner's manual for the instructions

[@erthwermmusic]

Make sure your dash is showing the mileage, then hold one of the dash buttons!

[@arthurfoyt6727]

Well, I have a 2018 MT07 and I never ever thought it was unstable or had suspension issues. It's not the best for real road trips but I have the FJR for that ;-)

[@spartanx169x]

But have you ridden other bikes so that you have a point of comparison. I have been on 2013 Ninja 650 and a MT-03. Both bikes feel great very stable. I have the 2016 FZ-07 and the bike handles like its riding through mud. The bike just wanders. As Chase said, it does not feel stable at all in turns. I have to run 10 mph under the speed limit through turns to feel like I'm not going to wreck. The Ninja and MT-03 I can run 10 over the speed limit and no worries what so ever.

[@arthurfoyt6727]

@@spartanx169x A few Harley's. a Triumph 900. The MT-07 if fine. Obbiously since it's one of the best selling bikes of all time then others find it quite accepatble as well ;-)

[@mannyechaluce3814]

@@arthurfoyt6727 They all want the goodies but don't want to pay the price :D if they want canyon carving there is a KTM for that

[@SeanOzz]

i just bought one too and have not had these issues in the mountains yet. i wonder if it is just some bikes vs others with dealer set up?

[@F4izzle]

A suspension tuner could solve that issue pretty easily.

[@filmforth6557]

how tall are you or how tall person can ride mt 07 properly and computably

[@patriciovazquezgarcia1703]

For the same price, cb650r 2021 with 1000 km or mt07 2022 new? Thanks from Spain

[@Hybrids4meok]

Cb650r by a longshot

[@TheWinterqueen1]

Trees are beautiful when their leaves are colored. 🍁OC

[@KNBProds]

OC: i will laugh in floridian because it's either green or dead there...

[@scottshow11]

Tell you what I noticed and I hate is that Yamaha said for the 21 model they lost 1 hp and torque compared to the previous models and I call absolute bs I had 2 17 models before my 21 and both older models had the same mods as my new one does and it’s considerably lower on power really annoys me since I really loved the 07s. I’ve only had it for a few months now and I can say everything else about the bike is awesome but I regret getting it I wish I would have shot for the 09 The selling point for me is the sound of the 07s reason why I never switched to a 09 or 10

[@DirtyWellington]

Don’t forget the rust issues that Yamaha’s seem to have.

[@Louisracingmedia]

OC AND YES THEY DO

[@izzy8609]

Chase I love you man but it's instability lol 😆

[@tubingforever]

What would be the best aftermarket suspension solution for the mt-07?

[@davidleonard8369]

None. Cut the spring spacers 10 mm. Drain and re fill with 415 cc of bell ray 20wt fork oil. Then raise the fork tubes 8mm in the triple clamps. Thank you Dave Moss tuning.

[@tubingforever]

@@davidleonard8369 And if I couldn’t accomplish that in a million years?

[@davidleonard8369]

@@tubingforever well I'm out of ideas. Takes more work than that to install aftermarket cartridges or emulators.

[@stevenelliott5403]

Ohlins do a cartridge kit for the front and a shock for the rear, but by the time you've added those it's the same price as an MT-09

[@adamlewis942]

did no one tell him his blinker is on still

[@dbwgoblue74]

Turn your blinker off! lmao

[@tonymason3638]

Oc# good video fun watch

[@Grateful4Today]

Oh I see ! You call them bends or curbs in the States ?! At the very most they're wide sweepers nothing like hairpins and twistes we have in Europe on real mountains. Do you know anything about counter steering or even body position when you're about to approach a proper bend ?! As for the suspensions, I've reconditioned them with Ohlins fsk 108 springs plus thicker oil hence it doesn't dive in when you either brake or lean over for that matter, it's not a tractor like your HD so please don't treat it as such.. Lol

[@balkor2]

OC : Love the turning signals on ;)

[@charlesbatsold31]

Your poor blinker fluid levels. Lmao

[@darinsassen617]

Its not just for the view, the smell