THIS is the way RTX SHOULD have launched... RTX 2060

2060 is here! But is it worth it?
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[@jackstoner9644]

Next nvidia graphics card: Rtx 2050 Rt 2030

[@milinko1636]

True haha

[@mm-fh1tw]

Rt 2030 is 50 bucks

[@kristiyanivanov7414]

And 2020, 2010

[@mosie3949]

Rt 2010

[@nathanielprecious8671]

@Nick Heggø ex bank account :)

[@Varinius]

0% chance itll actually be available for $350 imo

[@Varinius]

@@DaronKabe I'm talking about custom cards "idiot"

[@Varinius]

@@DaronKabe Clearly you struggle with understanding simple english, so let me break it down for you. "0% chance" thats called hyperbole, meaning an exaggeration "itll" here I refer to the 2060 as a whole family of cards, not just the founders like you are convinced for whatever reason "actually be available for $350" pretty much none of the 20 series cards were near their msrp at launch, only after a while when the lowest end variants came out did that become possible "imo" In. My. Opinion. Dont agree? I dont care. Opinions are opinions.

[@teferi456]

@@Varinius If Nvidia is willing to offer the Founders Edition for $349 then it's likely custom cards will be a lot closer in price than they were for other RTX cards.

[@TR1ppl3]

@@DaronKabe "idiot" LUL

[@ygalion]

True, none of gpus ever cost that low as promoted.Maybe after half of the year or a year. 420euros will be the price

[@madani1695]

"1440p is becoming the new 1080" le me : cries in 768p :(

[@Desperado9064]

1024x768? Wow my old favourite resolution from like 10-15 years ago :D

[@rifqi2733]

@@Desperado9064 its probably 1366x768

[@dfn03]

I cry in 720p quz my lenovo laptop wont run any newer games at a higher resolution and I have to almost always play on lowest possible settings anyway. But luckily I will probably get some money from a summerjob this year and use that money to get a good computer WITH RTX2060 ::)

[@hamzasadiq7672]

@@dfn03 good luck

[@dfn03]

@@hamzasadiq7672 Bad thing here is that i probably wont get a summerjob cuz this corona... 720p lowest settings for the next year or so :(

[@Mario-vx1lz]

i love jays videos but i think he's spent too much time playing with ultra high end hardware and has forgotten that for most people $350 for a 2060 (if you can get them for that) is still expensive $1,100 for a 2080TI is ridiculous and $2,500 for an RTX TITAN is criminal

[@scythelord]

PC gaming has never been for "most people"

[@rorylinnane9076]

i know right. I'm shopping for PC parts with a €900 budget and you really have to shop around. GPU prices are appalling. CPU and motherboard prices are the usual, but my god its going to be hard to build a PC for €900

[@newton2234]

Rory Linnane not if u know where to find cheaper components ;)

[@joserosales7578]

sonic dude he’s a tech KZbinr who focuses on tech as a whole. I agree the new cards are expensive as hell but no one is making you buy anything new. The 2060 looks to be great compared to the 1070 and with newer tech.

[@leiflala]

Get a fucking job and save up your money. Cheap fucks

[@MickdeRaad]

Yeah Nvidia is literally justifying a 350 dollar price point by having increased prices on all the other cards and then making it seem like the 2060 is a good deal compared to the other gravely overpriced cards.

[@ilpatongi]

Yes, exactly

[@MoneyMaking861]

Lol so trueee

[@jmac5126]

Go buy something that compares.... oh wait you cant. No competition

[@Krytern]

@@jmac5126 Yeah that magically makes their greedy decisions acceptable. Good job.

[@jmac5126]

@@Krytern its a free country dont buy it. I mean you can buy a 2080 for 699 it aint that bad for new features. Prices go up thats life change it with your wallet and quit bitchin.

[@rickbhattacharya2334]

Remember there was a time when xx60 cards costs around 250 ..... Good old days

[@AgentFrosty]

@Zeit Navi has been delayed. Radeon VII was last-minute, AMD needed something in the gpu department to release for CES and Navi wasn't ready. This card is only meant to keep AMD in the news and relevant until Navi gets back on track.

[@flyde6521]

@@AgentFrosty I think Nvidias goof was funnier, making a "new" GPU just so they could release something

[@AgentFrosty]

@@flyde6521 Well, technically, Turing IS a new GPU, new architecture with new technologies, and it does outperform its predecessors in traditional performance, just not at the same generational leap as we got with Maxwell to Pascal. Their major gaffe is the pricing. Sad thing is, when you have no competition, you are free to charge basically whatever da fuq you want for it and people will either buy it or they won't. If Turing was launched at the same price as Pascal there'd be less complaining, but Nvidia put a premium on their Ray Tracing and hoped people would buy into it. You could say I did since I just received my Zotac 2060 in the mail a couple days ago, but the honest truth is there aren't any cards on the market right now that approach its price/performance ratio. I can't find new 1070ti's for less than 450 dollars excluding the used market and I don't buy used GPU's. Likewise for Vega. A decent non-blower V56 is still over 400 dollars. I could have gotten an RX580 or 590, but those won't last as long for me as the 2060 will. So, really, it was my only option that made any kind of sense. And honestly, I don't regret it. Coming from a rx280, it's a huge difference and I'm happy with it.

[@flyde6521]

@@AgentFrosty no I meant the 1070ti not the 20 series. It's unnecessary

[@AgentFrosty]

@@flyde6521 Ah, Roger that, I understand what you're getting at. What was worse about those cards was not allowing the board partners to release OC versions because they didn't want the 1070ti to be faster than the 1080.

XX60 series are always around 200 to 250 range. Now it's 350, this is ridiculous beyond me.

Apoiyo lol do you know that a 1060 performs like a 980. And it still keeps the 200 to 250 range. Yet you think it's alright to price to XX70 range. It would be better price to performance of they actually price where they used to have many years ago. I don't care about ray tracing bullcrap, battlefield 5 sales are terrible and that's the only game supports it. I'll wait until they ACTUALLY priced their gpus in 7nm. Rip competition.

[@DaronKabe]

@Apoiyo the 1060 was better than the 980 when it launched the fuck is that dumb excuse

[@ChannelTrooper]

@@DaronKabe The idea is the price of the RTX 2060 was artificially increased to make more profit by showing off it's better than the gtx 1070 TI. The RTX pricing should have been the same price bracket as the GTX line up like it always have been. So value isn't really true. You're paying a card a bit cheaper than the GTX 1070 TI named RTX 2060. He meant the 1060 launched it had the same price as a 960 but with a 980 performance and that is how it should be. This is what happens when there is no competition

[@HeartInLight]

Vega 64 is 400 on Newegg right now, and is close to 2070 in performance. I feel like Jay is talking up this product, and not showing its competition at its price point like he should be.

[@DrearierSpider1]

@Apoiyo It's better than a 1070 Ti in many games, but it also has 25% less VRAM. That's already matters for quite a few titles at 1440p, and it's only going to matter more over the next few years.

[@GeorgeD1]

More performance should not mean 50-70% higher price between generations. This is a -60 card, it should not be $350, period.

[@swashington942]

George D Quit bitching because you can’t afford it. If you don’t like it don’t buy it! Jeesh

[@benjy117]

@@swashington942 No George is right. Every generation of cards have been 600$ for the flagship the 1080 Ti was 699$ now the 2080 Ti is now 1299$? That's enough to make Nvidia's stock drop like it did since the launch of the 20 series. Nvidia did this to themselves and yes people aren't buying them because for the first time of a launch you can find any of the 20 series cards in stock and that alone shows you why Nvidia's stock went down 15%. Capitalism not working in their favor this generation.

[@swashington942]

Ben R. These cards will sell like hot cakes.

[@GeorgeD1]

@@swashington942 Oh, I can afford it, you can be sure of that. Also, I can afford many other things, but just because *I can* , it doesn't mean prices should be raised like this for everyone. And if I state otherwise, I would sound just like the entitled snob you seem to be. :)

[@jeneralgod]

@@swashington942 Do you hear yourself?

[@Ramon_92]

The RTX 2060 is actually pretty damn good i have a Gigabyte Windforce OC RTX 2060 and its rocking 100+ FPS easy on most high end games ultra settings 1080P and on 2K average 70-80 FPS . Also it has GDDR6 over the 1070's GDDR5 this is a big difference the 2060 basicly is twice as fast in VRAM speed even though it has 2 GB VRAM less then the 1070 and 1070-TI .

[@madezra64]

Hands down the best graphics card I have owned in years. I mean this thing just vomits frames like a drunk ass sorority pledge!

[@KenneXS]

@@madezra64 its a GTX 1080 with less 5 fps but with new feature, right now are useless but will see

[@madezra64]

๖ۣۜ KENNEXS I have the MSI Gaming Z edition and overclocked it hella. Pretty sure I’m doing just slightly better then a GTX 1080 but yes this ain’t a bad thing. I think Tensor Cores have a future, it’s just a rough adoption. We got Crysis back in 2007 to hardware that couldn’t max it out. Im hope it’s the same thing.

[@Ramon_92]

@@madezra64 Thats partly because of the GDDR6 memmory which is twice as fast as the GDDR5 found on ever GTX card . The 2060 has 14 gbs bandwith vs 8 on the GTX 1070 and 1080 .

[@NeekBCoolin]

What cpu are you using ?

[@Meroving1an]

There were actually GTX 1070TI priced at 358 USD a one week ago on Amazon so the difference of 100 USD is now after they artificially increased the price of the 1070Ti...

[@willtorman]

Who wants to buy my 1070 Ti it's brand new. Hahaha

[@somedude2492]

Still the same, it costs the same and is better. And has rtx. Don't see anything wrong with it.

[@Draedo]

this card is 250 bucks its 200 cheaper than a decent 1070ti

[@yskuzi]

It was boxing day for fuck sake

[@helpme4410]

@@yskuzi this.. ppl kept saying on others channels how they found cheap 1070ti... it was during a boxing week sale in NA. I've been looking for one for a looong ass time but can only find 450+ new. Rather get this than an old gpu.

[@DrearierSpider1]

So this is how the mid range dies...with thunderous applause from the tech press.

[@GregzVR]

DrearierSpider1 - Palpatine loves his 2080Ti SLI setup.

[@aaronporter2180]

Yeah I don't get it. The fact that people are welcoming this with open arms is nuts IMO.

[@aaronporter2180]

@@jaylay850 on the bright side it's only 350 to get less than 2nd tier performance from more than 2 years ago. That's a good thing right?

[@Fools_Requiem]

Linus didn't particularly like the card...

[@191desperado]

The mid range is not performing like mid range anymore. Time to update the definition of mid range.

[@kapsxd]

For people who are saying that the 2060 is pointless. First of all, you are basically getting a 1080 (if you overclocked the 2060) for half the price. And yes, performance might not be the best with Ray tracing, but you are getting all these features that come with it and developers will take advantage of them in the future and all of a sudden, these features will become relevant. So take this to a grain of salt if you are going Pascal....

[@Cogency]

Affordable? .. Let's hope AMD is going to step its game up. :( These 2xxx cards have been a financial joke.

[@AdrianMuslim]

AMD already fucked up the price with RX 590 @ $280. Their new GPU will also be at least $350.

[@thomasmend3869]

@@AdrianMuslim writing so I can come back after CES

[@josejuanandrade4439]

LOL keep Hoping man... keep hoping.

[@josejuanandrade4439]

@@thomasmend3869 So do i

[@AdrianMuslim]

@@thomasmend3869 I'll be back too

[@aaronporter2180]

This entire generation sucks. The best thing that can be said about the 2060 is "well it isn't that bad". Who else remembers when they released a 1060 (at semi normal 60 series pricing) that beat the 980. The people touting this card as a good deal are crazy.

[@TheGoreforce]

No it beat the 970.... You are getting your information wrong.

[@aaronporter2180]

@@TheGoreforce go back and watch the announcement where they say it is faster than a 980. Or go look at some benchmarks. It averages out to be slightly faster than a 980. Just Google 980 vs 1060.

[@MrBrightSyde1997]

@@aaronporter2180 gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/2576vs3639 You were saying?

[@aaronporter2180]

@@MrBrightSyde1997 are you really using userbenchmark as a reference. Go look at some real benchmarks ya dummy. In general the 1060 6gb trades blows with the 980 but over all it is a bit faster. GTFO with that shit.

[@cardigansrule]

I'm sorry, but this doesn't impress. the "new x60 beats the old x70" is old hat. that should be a GIVEN every generation. and it still doesn't beat the 1080 $350 for a x60 level is also unimpressive. the GTX 960 was $199! TWO HUNDRED.. vs 350?? UNIMPRESSED hell the 970 was less, $329. people thinking $350 is a good price for a low-mid level gaming card that can barely keep up at 1080p is what's wrong with PC gaming right now

[@user-ec6ej4dp6t]

compared to 2014 the US minimum wage has increased significantly. Why do people expect everything to stay the same price when they bring home over $3 more an hour... lol . That's the minimal...not what people with real jobs make....so a card costing $100 more when people are making 6 grand more per year makes sense...

[@clockworklegionaire2135]

@@user-ec6ej4dp6t I guess I won't be able to buy a corvette ever since its prices are gonna go 8 thousand up...

[@user-ec6ej4dp6t]

@@clockworklegionaire2135 $100 is not equal to 8grand. Your an idiot..your smart remark is nothing but useless and pathetic. Wage goes up, prices go up. This is what low income people wanted so now we all suffer from it.

[@user-ec6ej4dp6t]

@@clockworklegionaire2135 you buy a card every 3 to four years? Every year minimal goes up half a dollar or so...year one... 1200 more...year two...2400 more...year 3 3600 more..year 4 4800 more.....4800+3600+2400+1200 more is 12 grand more in your pocket from a 60 cent annual raise per year for 4 years totaled, and you bitch about a 100 dollar increase? Raises are cost of living not free money to make you rich.

[@clockworklegionaire2135]

@@user-ec6ej4dp6t What is sarcasm and how do you find it.

[@jeromevuarand3768]

The early 20 series were overpriced so that all you tech reviewers would recommend grabbing a 10 series while we can. But that was just a ploy from nvidia to get rid of the huge stocks they could no longer sell to cryptominers. And it worked so well now they have no reason to adjust the price of the higher end 20 series. Instead of being part of the problem, you should recommend people stop buying nvidia until the prices per performance get down to reasonnable level.

[@schleybailey]

I support that.

[@kisho9119]

we got tricked

[@somedude2492]

Research costs money, nvidia spent that money and now want's to get it back. Not some weird paranoic bs, just basic inversion system.

[@5at5una]

@@somedude2492 or just business, there... why use such fancy word lol

[@somedude2492]

@@5at5una not specifically business as that implies a ton more concepts, but yeah, business.

[@killerm12]

can't believe that Linus is actually less biased in regards to RTX cards than Jay. this whole "review" feels like "see, I told you so" from Jay, he was praising RTX even in earlier videos when everyone else was more reasonable and actually didn't dismiss most of the complaints from public

[@SneakyKittyGameDev]

its simple. its because ray tracing will be replacing rasterization in the future as the new standard. its a good first initial step towards it and jay sees that, its alot of the consumers that think its a complete waste because they cannot really upgrade from pascal to the rtx cards due to the lack of performance increase and the HUGE increase in pricing. most of the consumers dont look at the long term affects, they just want their card for cheap and they want it now and dont care about innovation that will help us out in the future for better visuals. real time raytracing in games is just flat out great, i just wish the high end cards were more affordable. if they were cheaper maybe some indi devs would actually have a reason to start playing around with it as well, and i may finally be able to swap out my 970. hopefully amd does well here so i can finally upgrade. now to get called an nvidia fanboy for seeing the future of a technology that just so happened to be pushed out by team green.

[@invoke4485]

@@SneakyKittyGameDev What you fail to see is the consumer shouldnt be forced to pay for a technology that isn't being used outside one game when it won't be inplemented for years (or like the hairworks they made may never be widespread)

[@TheLiveactiongamer]

You can get 1080 level performance in a 2060 for way less then buying a 1080. How is it this hard for all you on the nvidia sucks bandwagon to understand. No one is forcing you to use the RTX cores.

[@invoke4485]

@@TheLiveactiongamer They are forcing me to pay for the RT cores if they had left them out they could have given us a 2060 for the same price of the 1060 but no they added them so they can charge us for a feature they know people won't be using if you bought a 1070Ti or 1080 at the MSRP you was either going to be playing in 1440p or 1080p high refresh rate. They know that what people do with card of that level so lets add a feature RT that makes you get at max 65ish (no doubt in multiplayer is lower) at 1080p

[@blackfireoffire]

@@invoke4485 Uhm it's called being an early adapter stop being a crybaby. Look at 4k tv 4 years ago to now in price. Of course brand new technology is expensive.

[@speedstar892]

The end text says: "true story: jay once broke a rib going 5mph on a bicycle" You're welcome!

[@notradd]

Happy, It IS for $350 and a MSI 2060 is 330 even LESS than 350, and its a DUAL fan card

[@OneDollaBill]

for 250-290$ yes, for 350$ no. that price in Europe is going to be like closer to 400€ anyways.

[@OneDollaBill]

+Abdul every card has the same MSRP on 2060 this time around, atleast what they showed at CES event.

[@catalinierkan]

i finished building a new pc 2 months ago with a ryzen 1800x 16 gb ddr4 3200 cl 16 and i got 0off a friend his 1.5 year old r9 380 for like 80 euros as a placeholder till the amd 7nm are also out sometime this year. i'm hoping either one of em will be a best buy or will force nvidia to drop their prices. But still for 80 euros on that card i'm content for the time being especially since i know the guy i got it from is a techie like me that takes good care of his stuff. It's basically in mint condition. And normally in estern europe the prices for new gpu is usually a bit insane at times. I'm pretty sure i'll see the 2060 at around 380-450euros while supply isnt a problem and the go up if there's any choke on the supply chain.

[@quickscope2341]

Amazon.de is cheaper

[@zhangirduiseke676]

Blame fucking Europe and taxes! It's not Nvidia's fault that cards are more expensive in Europe.

[@lukatheslav]

The 1070TI in Europe right now, where I live is the same as the 2070. IF you can find one.

[@jedidefinitivo]

It’s frustrating to see Jay doing everything to justify the price of the RTX Series Cards.

[@HowDareYouu]

he is a sellout. cashing money from nvidia

[@quantumskidoosh8244]

Lol did you guys watch the video? He also abhors the price point(s) of rtx 2070+ series, and hates that no games use the new stuff, seriously... watch the whole video

[@jedidefinitivo]

Phil Cole I don’t see the evolution of the card ( RTX 2060 ) that he points, where is evolution if the card cost more than its predecessor and the same as the card that it performs equally ( GTX 1070Ti before Nvidia forced vendors to raise the price )

[@invoke4485]

@@quantumskidoosh8244 Ya but if you was to take the ray tracing from the card (Which no one is going to use due to how crap the fps will be) then this card could have cost as the xx60 series from last gen at $350 but then know adding subpar ray tracing for a few bucks means they can charge a ton more.

[@Crabash]

even with rt core costs all 20xx cards are a joke on price/performance. It has nothing to do with what you can afford, only if you are strong willed enough to say no, I will not pay vastly inflated prices. Accept it now and be prepared for another price hike at next gen. Frankly as far as I can see, most reviewers were pretty upset with the pricing and low boost from previous gen, but did a turn a round singing the 20xx's praises, while paying lip service to the price. Being the best performer at that price point is not the point. 1070ti could be had for £360 last week, now the lowest is £429. I have almost always bought nvidia going back to geforce 256. But they are apple 2.0 now. They would have sold way more cards if they stuck to a 5 to 10% price rise and be better off for it. Instead they try to con us into paying for their fuck ups.

[@cwehden]

this dude is so far up NVIDIA's back side, ray tracing is years away and by the time it's mainstream another gen will be here anyway..

[@Evtrex13]

it probably will never be mainstream

[@SerBallister]

@@Evtrex13 I wouldn't be so sure, pretty much every in realtime graphics development is looking in this direction. Performance on this RTX is a bit disappointing imho.

[@Evtrex13]

I am just guessing I am no fortune teller but I certainly don't need reflections in my games maybe DLSS could be useful for me particularly

[@SerBallister]

@@Evtrex13 I would say its better suited to realtime GI and accurate ambient occlusion. Shiny mirror like reflections to show this off is just the marketing department looking for eye catching stuff, as usual :)

[@jasonu3741]

yup by the time most IPs have RTX youll need more than 8gb of ram anyways hell 1080p on RE2 bottlenecks at 8gb of Vram

[@iiiEazyiii]

980 Ti here. WTF do we upgrade to???? Everything is wayyyyyyy overpriced

[@manfail7469]

Maybe a used 1080 ti or something? tbh you should just do what the guy above said

[@AustintheJLman]

Shoot I run a 980ti 1440p ultra-high there is no reason to move away from this beast

[@RS-bl7mj]

@@AustintheJLman I'm thinking about getting a 1440p monitor once the Nvidia supporting freesync goes live. Notice any games that are particularly taxing on it? Rocking a GTX 1080 myself... Just been too much of an ultra settings snob to bump up resolution 😂

[@RS-bl7mj]

@Came for dumplings Please don't get too hyped for that... Not gonna knock the rumors on performance but the prices that were leaked probably won't be true.

[@RS-bl7mj]

@@BMW_nation 1050ti is no where close to the performance of a 980ti...

[@xouric0]

350$ for a mid range... whats next? 1200$ for the high end range? oh wait... I think people are getting used to high prices... that saddens me :(

[@TheGoreforce]

@Came for dumplings They are undercutting the vega 64 with a better card.

[@BobBobson]

You're getting GTX 1070 performance for the GTX 1070 price, now with an option that cuts your framerate in half.

[@AusSkiller]

If a GPU is better than the competition's entire line up, including their "high end", then why would you price it as a mid range GPU? That's just stupid.

[@DestroyerJoni20]

Well they are also releasing the gtx 1160 which doesn't have the extras however it should have great fps for much cheaper than 350.

[@Defy_Convention]

Well a gtx 970 was $350 and I'm guessing this is a bit better

[@Bl00dwerK]

"true story: jay once broke a rib going 5mph on a bicycle"

[@systemx6603]

9:52 That looks genuinely horrible.

[@DeosPraetorian]

@@systemx6603 looks fine to me

[@gunguywow]

@@mr.madnus.fernus It's still ultra settings but just medium for the rtx reflections and shit

[@dannys_xrockzone5100]

it bothers me when i am seeing people being ok with the prices now... its not ok dudes come on

[@ilpatongi]

It's ok compared to the other cards. The Pascal cards are going out of stock so it's going to be like this for a while It's not like you can force people to buy other GPUs

[@netii126]

Right???? When GPU prices went through the roof during this mining crap everyone was furious about it, but now it seems ok. I don't get it...

[@ilpatongi]

Nico Linder People were furious for other reasons

[@Krytern]

@@ilpatongi Stop trying to justify the overpricing.

[@KBow]

NVidia has no competition. They're a business, and they have cornered the market and are now jacking up the prices. It's a good business decision. That being said, I would actually blame AMD for not putting out competing cards as that's part of the reason GPUs are priced high. I agree though, the situation sucks.

[@QuietKnightt]

I bought a 1070 Ti in late December. I love my life.

[@d-phoenix2198]

Be thankful I have a fricking GTX 1050 2GB THIS THING IS GARBAGE

[@mscheese000]

@@d-phoenix2198 lol I bought my laptop a couple years ago with a GTX 1050 thinking it was supposed to be a pretty decent card. It's pretty okay for 1080P gaming on non-AAA titles, I guess. I went from that and an i7-7700HQ to a 2080 with a Ryzen 7 2700X.

[@d-phoenix2198]

@@mscheese000 Damn

[@d-phoenix2198]

@@bwedges Wow that is some bad luck

[@goldzen3019]

350$ is still too much.I will wait to see what AMD is going to roll

[@josejuanandrade4439]

Why wait? Let's see.... What was their most recent card? Oh yeah, the RX 590, a card that performs WELL UNDER this one... for 290dlls... Yeah................................... So... How much do you think AMD will charge you for a card of similar performance of this one? :)

[@janisir4529]

They are going to roll in their grave. AMD managed to create some pretty decent CPUs, but they have nothing on Nvidia.

[@goldzen3019]

@@josejuanandrade4439 I think they put out 590 just to be relevant on holidays

[@josejuanandrade4439]

@@janisir4529 Their desktops CPUs are damn awesome. Seriously good performance for killer price. And even if "outdated" Id say the rx 570 and 580 are still decent offerings for 1080p gaming. But that last is the problem. Their best selling gpus are the refresh of a refresh... Vega is a terrible card imo. And they are years behind in that field against Nvidia.

[@DeosPraetorian]

@@josejuanandrade4439 well the next set of gpus comes out this year

[@Lazhern]

When your whole sub feed is reviews on the 2060

[@gamingpikachu7719]

Lazhern, glad I’m not the only one. :D

[@Ali107]

@@gamingpikachu7719 same.

[@Waldherz]

"Reviews" More rages and insults without any sense.

[@Coles900gbutter]

gtx 980 - $549, gtx1060 $249 22 month gap, same performance but the gtx1060 cost 55% less....... gtx 1080 $599, rtx 2060 $349, 32 month gap, 10% LOWER performance, rtx 2060 costs 42% less. Its shit and theres a reason they decided not to compare to the 80 but to the 1070ti. you can sugar coat shit all you want, doesn't help your credibility.

[@Dazzxp]

I am not impressed, i got my GTX1070 at Launch granted it was a little more expensive but it was the MSI Gaming X which is expected for a custom card and this RTX is a tad bit faster however is that an improvement with nearly 3 years on? The RTX 2070 is far more expensive for a repetitively minor performance bump. So my opinion on the RTX still remains the same, it sucks hard. The RTX2060 is 50% more expensive than the GTX1060 and provides around 50% more performance wheres the generation leap? All they are doing is upping the price bracket so mid range is now lower high end. I really don't understand the press media you guys are all for it! This is not progress, this is manipulation!!!

[@xhizornl3204]

Darren Rushworth-Moore they must had a nice bonus from Ngreedia

[@Yoshimatsu414]

You paying for the RTX. I mean, they did put more silicon on these cards so it's not like that's gonna come for free. Although it's not in use in many games yet, you ARE paying for the hardware although the software support is not there yet.

[@xhizornl3204]

When Rtx ever be mainstream this card will be old allready. Incl. The 2070 2080 and short after the Ti

[@Yoshimatsu414]

@@xhizornl3204 It's that early adopter tax man...I see real time Ray tracing picking up quick. I'm sure AMD is going to have an RT card for gaming too. It's built in to the APIs and major game engines. Might see a lot of RT in games next year and maybe some UE4 games getting it patched in since..."IT JUST WORKS" lol.

[@xhizornl3204]

Yoshimatsu414 true if you want to be first to adopt you pay for it. I use to buy the newest stuff but no more, my gtx 1070 is average maybe but it still suits me fine and question yourself if the ray tracing hype you cannot be without before it gets mainstream. Just my opinion. If people pay these out of hand prices, Nvidia is going to keep rising the prices next gen because they know people blindly fork over the money

[@Beehj84]

"Wow! The XX60 model card for this generation is (barely, if at all) beating the xx70 model card from the previous! And only for the same price!" Yeah ... in other words, they've continued the same performance trend (not even, but for argument's sake) but shifted all of the pricing such that we now pay the same price for the same performance as the previous generation at the same price. At every launch in history, we've received the previous generation's performance or MORE ... FOR CHEAPER. This is bullshit.

[@C4103]

Ray tracing is cool and all, but I'm not gonna buy a new GPU for some fancy reflections. IDK about you guys, but FPS / frame time is still king for me.

[@ppsarrakis]

still get more fps with rtx off...and you got DLSS(its on pubg test server so its comming on more games soon) for more fps.. people are just trolling for the likes now... and im saying as an AMD fanboy since athlon days...

[@AlanIsAkira]

Plus slot of games do very well at mimicking ray tracing that it's just not interesting enough to me at least.

[@fortingfan4226]

Welp get ready for all the Mid Range to move to AMD

[@xM4XT0Nx]

not gonna happen. :)

[@perfectdiversion]

First AMD need to make anything worthwhile in this space lol

[@aquifer9480]

perfectdiversion 220$ Sapphire RX580 8GB rules lower mid range but AMD can’t compete with RTX2060, 1070ti in upper mid range-lower high end

[@galeocurvier7217]

@@aquifer9480 RX 590, Vega 56?

[@Bourinos02]

Let's hope they'll release something good in the 150-350$ range!

[@rinayharpal7695]

The 2060 supposed to be the mid-range card around 200-250$, they're just climbing the prices for all their card artificially. First ever dislike for this channel by the way.

[@TheGoreforce]

Blame AMD for their Far wose GPUs being 50 dollars or more expensive.

[@fliqpythekiller9950]

@@TheGoreforce lmao sure "AMD is the problem here"

[@TheGoreforce]

@@slywolf_ I can't hear you over their 700 dollar card with less features.

[@erikmerckx2958]

RTX 2060 is GTX 1070ti performance at the price of a 1070, with enough RT cores to play at 1080p 30 FPS at low ray tracing settings? Not only is the sad Turing launch continuing, but we're discovering how brainwashed the tech "reviewers" are. I'm looking at the comments which mirror my opinions but I'm saddened to see how this video got 14K likes. Clearly, there are many viewers who actually respect your opinion and it's disappointing to see you using your influence like this since you otherwise seem like a great guy.

[@freshnugget2099]

Did anyone notice the case back there with a floating GPU? No motherboard no CPU cooler no RAM no PSU cables no nothing like what is going on?

[@noposition]

Search the channel 4 or so videos ago, about a new White and Gold build, with the RTX Titan, it was part one, custom painting the Define R6. Part 2 to be continued. Watch the video!

[@nehemiah9190]

I see how that could be confusing

[@vineetmaan1]

Thats called NVIDIA SPONSORSHIP

[@karlchristianbognot1842]

that pc is the legendary one that runs crysis at 4k120FPS

[@Misa-hl5xw]

Still drastically overpriced, just on a smaller scale. Not to mention, no SLI support. I'm sure Nvidia is just trying to juice out as much as they can before Navi.

[@MarkoHR]

why would you SLI it tho... -_- I'm not even gonna bother explaining it

[@somedude2492]

SLI died two generations ago...

[@somedude2492]

SLI died two generations ago...

[@wabachi]

@@somedude2492 imb4 everyone SLI their 1080/TI 2080/TI, yes SLI is dead....

[@josejuanandrade4439]

Oh another salty AMD fanboy hyping up their non-existant AMD gpus. I'm gonna remind you of Vega. So yeah... Navi can very well just be another big flop just like that. Have fun sitting down, waiting just to get disappointed :)

[@celcius_87]

$100 cheaper and 2gb less VRAM than 1070 Ti I'll keep my 1070 Ti

[@jcpluto4555]

Robert Mitchell not really $100 cheaper if you shop correctly. I got my 1070ti at $360 New around November. I’d stick with my 2gb more VRAM too

[@GotoTechReviewsChannel]

Way faster memory though. This is the same mistake people make with cameras and comparing megapixels, more is better right?!

[@Bourinos02]

@@GotoTechReviewsChannel Yes, so you can get higher FPS, but still, if you hit your 6Gb Vram limit, your game will start lagging as hell... And hitting that limit isn't too uncommon nowadays...

[@GotoTechReviewsChannel]

Bourinos02 Depends on a number of factors, but yeah you can hit the limit faster, however I’d argue that with this particular card you likely won’t run into this issue since you’re not running high resolutions and high frame rates enough to fill the buffer.

[@Bourinos02]

@@GotoTechReviewsChannel Yes, but you're forgetting something much more important... Textures! Most of the time, it's stored in VRAM and the better/larger the textures, the more Vram you use! Anyway, it doesn't change the point that the only reason they bumped the prices up is the lack of AMD competition in this GPU range...

[@TheDkjolle]

Wow this is scummy and i saw it coming in a way. They are selling out stock of 1070TI's to Fortnite kids who really payed for the bundle to get the skin included recently.... and now a month after they have the better AND cheaper alternative, the 2060...I can only laugh of this.

[@yoced]

ur stupid if u buy an expensive gpu when you know there is a new generation coming o ut

[@phoenixrising4573]

@Grand Admiral Thrawn I'm not a fortnite kid, I needed an actual usable gpu, and the 2060 was still being "teased". They keep delaying this shit, and you're stuck waiting months.

[@phoenixrising4573]

@Grand Admiral Thrawn lol no I'm afraid not. The age range that appeals to passed about 20 years ago for me ;)

[@abscessedcadaver8221]

@@phoenixrising4573 Agree, same happens with Navi, people are saving money for something they doesn't even know how it's going to be.

[@wabachi]

@Grand Admiral Thrawn "we need to remember all the rumors around Vega and how that turned out." what rumors and how they are turned out?

[@LewisEditsYou]

Still happy with my 1080 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ilpatongi]

I really wasn't. I had a 2560x1080 monitor and it still didn't perform as I expected

[@manfail7469]

@@ilpatongi That sucks, judging by your other comments, I'd think Nvidia would have sent you a 2080!

[@ilpatongi]

Alias What?

[@tmoneytechnic]

@@manfail7469 LOL

[@tmoneytechnic]

Same here, no plans to upgrade for a while!

[@Vortex1988]

$350 for a card that should be $100 cheaper than that is not exciting, Jay.

[@jasongooden917]

350 bucks wow..err wait a minute, I live in Ontario Canada so add 25% conversion, plus whatever markup the store wants plus 14% tax on to of that... %#!t

[@stathisbikos6563]

yeah, we're in a similar boat in europe, I just got a 1070 strix used for about 300eur and I still feel it was a good deal. The 2060 will probably be around 450-500 for a decent one by the time it hits us here.

[@_________________________965]

20 bucks says canada computers sells it for 500, my local one has 1070s for 600

[@88joshuajohnathan]

Sucks to live in a socialist shit hole.

[@51lav]

@@88joshuajohnathan - Capitalism FTW lol

[@diehardAMD]

Linus told us all about the shitty shipping. No subsidizing. Sorry bro. Sorry.

[@blase3121]

it will not be for 349$ unfortunately

[@mast5879]

blase3121 are you sure about that

[@Psychomaniac14]

@@mast5879 he is and so am I, otherwise the 2070 I got was a massive waste of money

[@timothygibney159]

@@mast5879 microcenter had pre-orders for $499 :-(

[@rickbhattacharya2334]

In India it costs 466 $ but still cheaper than a 1070

[@get2choppa]

Can you prove it

[@edzymods]

I heard a rumor that Nvidia cherry picked their reviewers to build hype around the cards, and now I see it's not a rumor anymore. Keep on shilling Jay, it was obvious from the get-go (you are a bad liar) and it was written all over your face throughout the video. My dog actually looked at me and proclaimed "are you seeing this shit".

[@lianpangilinan7583]

Linus' video seems a lot more honest for some reason.

[@5at5una]

jay have been saying hes more more of happy on the tech instead of the product.. even so with how happy he was when rtx was launched at first even with bad drop fps(pre driver update)..

[@thomasgerhard1702]

Jay is honest, he just has another opinion about it.

[@DobrieNIN]

linus, the intel shill? you sure?

[@thomasgerhard1702]

@@FcoEnriquePerez ​ ​ I had Nvidia in my first pc, after that 2 AMD cards, now Nvidia again and stay to it until AMD get's something that won't annoy my ass out of it because off retardet driver support, i wrote in another comment that i don't support the RTX crap nvidia is doing, but that's my opinion, it's new tec that's not developed enough. But still that's no point to go for AMD for me, rather than get an 10xx card. ( I have a 1080 ti and stay with it). Don't know how you can say he is a "sucker" for Nvidia, he just has it's own opinion for RTX and loves it, don't know what's your problem with that to get this insulting... stay classy folks...

[@thomasgerhard1702]

also here... stay classy... linus and jay are both cool, linus has his moments i also won't approve with, but it's no reason to get insulting to anybody else

[@MasterCrafter7777777]

Um Jay... We need the whole story of how you broke your rib riding a bike at 5mph...

[@hugo219]

I have a 2060 rtx 6g graphics card and I would like to know if I can put my pc games in 2k

[@DahakaCL]

There is no rush at all to buy this new Nvidia family graphics cards, not even the 2080. So, let's wait until AMD finally releases some new tech. The 1080Ti and 1070Ti still can run almost every single game at 1440p over 80 FPS. Good enough.

[@GazingTrandoshan]

Def not for a few years. I got a 1070ti back in March .

[@ApocalipsisEnSabah]

If you have 1080ti you are fine until 2020, but if you can sell it and get something better go for it. Imagine selling for 1080ti for $600 and buying the best navi for $300 lol only if navi leaks are true and someone ever buy a 1080ti at that price

[@krazyfiend]

@@ApocalipsisEnSabah announcing and actually getting it market are two separate things. I'm open to being amazed and caught off guard by AMD announcing and saying the Navi tech will be out in Q1, but from what the GN crew and other outlets have been hearing-- this 'announcement' will be far ahead of the actual release to market.

[@ApocalipsisEnSabah]

@@krazyfiend I know, I was thinking in selling/buying at june when they will be probably launched

[@bromando44]

this is for people building their first pc or upgrading from a 1060 or older.

[@ToothlessSnakeable]

Way to much money for a x60 card

[@caribbaviator7058]

Its clearly beating the 1070ti in certain games and some new 1070ti cost more than 400$ on Amazon

[@shmoaeelshmoaeel8319]

@@caribbaviator7058 in past 4 years all the x60 prices were in between 200$-250$ .

[@bass-dc9175]

​@@caribbaviator7058 I would not support NVidia for such a shady business practice. The GTX 260 was 300$ at launch. And that was overpriced. Shortly cut down to 230$. The GTX 460 was 200$ at launch. Because it was a midrange card. The GTX 560 was 200$ at launch. Because it was a midrange card. The GTX 660 was 230$ at launch. Because it was a midrange card. The GTX 760 was 250$ at launch. Because it was a midrange card. The GTX 960 was 200$ at launch. Because it was a midrange card. The GTX 1060 was a 200/250$ card at launch. Because it was a midrange card. (The 6gb is basically a 1060ti) The RTX 2060 is a 350$ Card. A midrangecard just went up by 100$! Selling a 1060 for 350$ would have been BULLSHIT. Even if it beat the 970. Selling a 460 for 400$ would have been BULLSHIT back then. Even if it beat the GTX 285 by a large margin. And Selling a RTX 2060 for 350$ now is equally bad. I'd rather buy a used/new 1070ti than getting a new RTX 2060.

[@gunguywow]

@@bass-dc9175 Why would you get a used/new 1070ti when a new 1070ti is going to be possibly upwards of over $100 more than a 2060 for the exact or better performance?

[@bass-dc9175]

@@gunguywow "Why would you get a used/new 1070ti when a new 1070ti is going to be possibly upwards of over $100 more than a 2060 for the exact or better performance?" Because that statement is wrong. you can get a new 1070ti for 320€

[@mr.melonski6456]

wow now in germany you can find this for double the price

[@archys7]

JUST GOT IT NEW IN SHOP 500€ VERY GOOD PRICE, GOT LUCKY :)

[@archys7]

@@staitux at that moment it was cheapest i could find :) who knows what will be in next year.

[@archys7]

@@staitux i bought 3070 in december 700€ :D

[@killerm12]

"the affordable" lol that's not what $350 is for most gamers and not something you should be saying abot X060 series cards for that price EDIT: just saw those benchmarks - LMAO in most of them 2060 is tied or WORSE than 1070 ti which now costs the same $350 and not as you claim $450 how can you say this is good/exciting/acceptable is beyond me

[@ilpatongi]

Considering that the 2060 prices will drop at one point and that it has RTX it's not bad.

[@CassidyOG]

@@ilpatongi It's bad becaue RTX is useless on this card. It's useless on the 2070 and is barely usable on a 2080. I'd say that's pretty bad.

[@ilpatongi]

CassidyOG Well not really. Jay literally showed the performance in the video. It’s a new technology, hopefully it will improve

[@ValentineC137]

@@CassidyOG 1080p ultra + medium DXR giving you a stable 65+ fps is useless?

[@Cosmitzian]

MSRP. It's a different beast from actual prices you end up paying. Don't be surprised if the 2060 6 months down the line will be 250-300.

[@ResinstanceMike]

While cool, im still gonna wait. I want to see if vega2 is any better.

[@drewliveryboy]

Mike Luedcke agreed

[@tonn333]

Most definitely it will be better value!

[@texasdeeslinglead2401]

Yup , been waiting nearly 10 months I can wait a bit more. Or I'm going to vega 64 for our editing / gaming rig.

[@DarkAbyssSoul]

Same!!! I’m rooting they blow the gpu market like they did the cpus lol

[@itIsI988]

Will probably end up being a toaster as usual.

[@valhalla8140]

Can you send your sample to hardware unboxed? Would love to see their review.

[@Justchuck69]

That would get Jay into trouble with Nvidia and he wont do that !

[@cmdrnachoman5864]

@Kim Faes F*Kim Its out noww

[@yetiwag504]

after watching videos from Paul's, Gamer Nexus and jay on 2060 i've decided to buy a vega 64 instead.....thanks guys.

[@Jayztwocents]

With the recent price drop it’s hard to deny

[@DM72513]

I got a Sapphire for $399 in Newegg with the 3 game bundle. Definitely seems like the way to go at the moment.

[@Johnny-yi3ft]

@@DM72513 what games?

[@celliniatexas_]

@@Johnny-yi3ft division 2 resident evil 2 devil may cry 5

[@sUmEgIaMbRuS]

I'm pretty sure that awesome overclocking headroom is a result of sending out binned cards to reviewers

[@Maxfarace]

Now I see why SLI isn't available on the 2060. Running 2060s in SLI would have way better price to performance than buying a single over-priced 2070...

[@gravity00x]

Why else do you think they purposefully always disable this feature on the lower end cards :)

[@123FireSnake]

i mean we're now left with a huge gap between the 2060 and the higher end ones, i wonder how they intend to fix this, lower the price of the high end ones would be a sane mans solution but that doesn't sound like nvidia. So we're porbably gonna have the most convoluted pricing scheme ever with 11 series and 20 series woven together to make an unnavigatable mesh:(

[@raghavbatra12345]

gives enough room for amd to sell their cards overpriced aswell, am shattered with rtx pricing

[@123FireSnake]

@@raghavbatra12345 With some luck AMD's new cards are actually competitive enough to put some preassure on nvidia, otherwhis yeah, will be in deep shit.

[@raghavbatra12345]

@@123FireSnake dude i dont wanna sound bad but you seriously think amd can pull this off ? I highly doubt it man! Amd is well known for making false claims before product launch. And nvedia knows this and thats why the pricing of nvedia cards is so much . they literally dont give a shit about competition because there is none.

[@Manos13lilvalley]

we are all sheep, theyre conditioning us, next gen cards will be 2k for top tier, after the 2500$ after that 3k... and so on...

[@BenjerminGaye]

@@JoeBernard10 even adjusted for inflation youre still paying 100 bucks more for a xx60 card. Face it nvidia's been punp[ing money out of you ever since they made the 680 midrange and Introduced the TITAN as high end

[@coolronz]

exactly, they started it with founders editions, Titans etc, and sad fact it worked to an extent... lol

[@DragoNate]

Goodbye, life inside warm walls. Rent will soon become too expensive as well.

[@TheLoucM]

you are totally overreacting. I suggest calming down. There is a lot more engineer hours in this gen, it does not mean gpu will cost 3000$ in a few years.

[@drunkrdm]

got my 1070ti back in April, and no i wouldn't go switch it, fairly sure the 2 more gb of ram will help more then low ray tracing in games.

[@dennizsvemark8415]

hahah rtx 2060 is way better, it has newer features, it's faster etc... idk what you're talking about. What a waste of money to buy gtx 1070 ti xDDD

[@drunkrdm]

@@dennizsvemark8415 a) i bought it in april of 2018, so before the 2060 was out. not a waste of money either way b)it is still as fast or Faster then a 2060 in games that use 6gb or less c) most newer game REQUIRE over 6gb of ran for high settings (some requiring 9gb or more) d)ray tracing on a 2060 is still practically a slide show and worthless unless you like playing every thing at 20-30fps so enjoy a well deserved mute so i don't have to listen to you moronic a** again.

[@trapstoner]

return my strix 1080 that i bought 2 months ago to get a card that is "future-proof" that at max can do just above 60 fps at 1080 with raytracing at medium that doesn't even make a difference to me? hell no... screw this gen...

[@trapstoner]

@oofpacito are you really defending 20xx series? lol fyi my 1080 costed 400 usd new and is still much better than any fucking xx60 card... also if you compare prices of xx80 and xx60 cards atleast compare performance too lol

[@hamokamo]

So then why the fuck would he buy one? 'Dont use ray tracing', fuck off, that's why he bought a 1080, because he doesnt wanna do it! Fuck the 20 series.

oofpacito Fuck the 20 series you dumb little kid. Those cards are bs scam. My 1080ti is better than any 20 card, who the fuck needs ray tracing and an EA game to see it on? Fuck EA and fuck ray tracing, fuck nvidia 20 series too. Long live the 9/10 series best one.

[@lakizmaj5679]

@oofpacito fuck that shit that will cost 500$+ in Europe, 350$ my ass

[@fitch9782]

​@@trapstoner are you sure 1080 is better than 2060? I thought 1070ti was barely slower than 1080, and these tests show 2060 performing better by a significant margin, (supposedly) launching at a price 1080s have never touched. fwiw I don't care at all about raytracing, just price and framerate.

[@ChaoticD3sTroYeR]

They're working on making g-synch compatible with freesynch monitors, which I could've never Imagined becoming a thing.

[@DaronKabe]

@All my heroes are villains no

[@Lighteningskye]

@All my heroes are villains "Nvidia has announced at CES 2019 that it will bring G-Sync support to several FreeSync monitors, removing the need to buy a monitor specifically certified and branded by the leading GPU maker. 12 FreeSync displays have been confirmed to get G-Sync compatibility through a driver that will be released on January 15th." ~The Verge posted this morning

[@itIsI988]

Which only works on 10 series and above. FFS.

[@krazyfiend]

@All my heroes are villains You're correct. The Verge is exaggerating the announcement and not breaking it down to its actual specifications. There will still be Freesync and Gsync. It's just that Nvidia cards will be *officially* capable of supporting Freesync on certain monitors (if not more and letting the user test as well which is nice). This is in no way, shape, or form is allowing Gsync to occur on non Gsync hardware equipped monitors. Also nice though is that Nvidia has vetted 400 freesync monitors seeing if they meet their standards for a fluid experience.

[@Lighteningskye]

@All my heroes are villains Yeah I didn't go into reading the full details. I just looked real quick since we all know G-Synch monitors are expensive AF. So this will be interesting to see where exactly Nvidia and the manufactures go from this point.

[@matanbenayoun4237]

for someone whos got a 1050 4GB this is one hell of an upgrade

[@jazza204]

Genuine Player for someone who has a gt 430 1gb this is one hell of an update

[@itzzdeadboy2881]

i got a R9 380 2gbs lol

[@kapsxd]

For a person who has a 2400g. This is a hell of a new simulation of life

[@uncledaydays]

Great! Another quality promotion Nvidia sponsored video by JayzTwoNvidia.

[@azmika85]

$100 less to more or less match the performance of a card that's 15 months old card based on an architecture almost 32 months old. Why would anyone be excited about this?

[@Hyncharas]

Nvidia really don't care what gamers think - IMO they're only concerned with companies that need a few dozen of their GPU cards as render farms. This lack of consumer interest has been repeated with EVERY generation of the GeForce line for years.

[@ppsarrakis]

didnt gamers kept whining they want innovation in the graphics tech other than increase of resolution? pay up now.

[@gravity00x]

NVIDIA is going down (not that i want them too, nor am I a fan of amd) The ARM processors are on the rise, integrated graphics that catch up with the GPUs fast and will make the dedicated graphics market come to a halt are on the rise. Jensen is trying to grab what money he can (sold alot of his shares in his own company) before he will get fired as a CEO.

[@computron1]

@@gravity00x How is ARM going to make the dedicated graphics market come to a halt?

[@gravity00x]

@@computron1 ARM strive for integrated graphics on the processor itself. Just like soundcards and the likes have been integrated in the past - companies dying. Dedicated graphics will soon be integrated into the processor or the motherboard itself. (Apple, microsoft, sony all pushing HARD for ARM technology so they can cut costs on dedicated graphics) Nvidia is VERY aware of that as Jensen said so himself and they are doing everything they can to even artificially stay relevant.

[@computron1]

@@gravity00x Are there any upcoming ARM based machines that can compete with current workstation setups?

[@grzymsiu]

6GB is not that much for the future? I think...

[@GangsterDolphins]

grzymsiu im using a 2gb gtx 1050 and it’s not even that bad so idk why bare people are dissing this one

[@nightbirdds]

This still slides the price scale up to a level that puts it out of reach of most folks. Just because it's faster than a card that was pointless to begin with, doesn't make it a good value.

[@87togabito]

And most folks seem to own iPhones Xs too.

[@stevedavis3828]

@@87togabito Define "most"?

[@87togabito]

@@stevedavis3828 same 'most' as how this card is priced out of reach of 'most' folks.

[@bloodcarver913]

So, nVidia cries out "Just buy it" and you nod like an old car dashboard toy? This video should be marked "Paid for by nVidia" :( Disappointed in you.

[@societygaming1165]

U forgot the sponsored by Nvidia part Can't wait for NAVI

[@subscribinkitmane1119]

@@FcoEnriquePerez listen wait a couple of more years for navi at ces they will talk about what products theyre thinking of

[@infernoodleOwO]

@@FcoEnriquePerez maybe in 5 years, lol

[@glennv3176]

@oofpacito How is vega a mess, bought one for $320, overclocks & undervolts like a champ, no difference with 1080/2070 despite being two years old. The only difference is better 1% & 0.1% lows on vega.

[@HaasTheFirst]

You AMD Fanboys are the worst. I too hope for new good AMD Cards, but why would he be paid? Also I hope that finally AMD will get there shit cooler and quieter!

[@hopersolution]

looks i have to wait few more years to get navi

[@haydenb9074]

I would've expected $300 MSRP at most. I'm either waiting until the prices are going down or waiting for what AMD is going to put out

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

Why? What led you to believe that any new GPU Nvidia OR AMD would be back to 2016 prices? Bitcoin and GPU Speculating and short supplies have led to the NEW price from NOW on. Just Like Video games went from 49.99 to 59.99 they prices don't go back down.

[@Major_D3rp]

Serious question though, what is the music you use for the benchmark slides??

[@jimmydali]

Overclocking video incoming Jay?

[@wadem4503]

Very possible card was sent to Jay BECAUSE it overclocked well.

[@somedude2492]

@@wadem4503 and? The overclocking videos aren't to say "this is how your card will perform, try it." Overclocking doesn't work like that.

[@CampbeIIs]

Facts

[@sparx0414]

He literally explains at 7:11 lol "I like his explanations"

[@Smithy2222]

@sshortguy1 c overclocking is nearly always worth it. Why not get the best performance you can for the money spent?

[@georgesumm]

Dude, what song is playing at 2:12? So heavy and I love it.

[@kristiyanivanov7414]

Tsar Bomba Me too

[@benbaer3525]

Hell Yeah! Me too

[@jimmyrichards5595]

Pantera tune?

[@Crazyocta]

Shazam didn't recognize it, nor did Google's own sound search app... i gave up

[@Baoran]

Honestly seems like a nvidia ad. I guess the reviewers got worried when those people who didn't give good enough videos in nvidias opinion didn't get review samples anymore. Not saying it is a bad card, just that how you presented the review made it feel like a nvidia ad.

[@dokument13]

I disagree with idea that RTX 2060 is good choice. I am from Europe (CZ) and I can buy used GTX 1080 for about 65 USD less than is starting price for RTX 2060 from official Nvidia site (I do not counting new GTX 1080 in because stores have been holding prices like it is 2016 and now new GTX 1080 are out of stock so you cannot buy them anyway). I understand that RTX 2060 has new technology in it, but in my opinion, it cannot justify 40% price increase between GTX 1060 and RTX 2060! At least in my region I would recommend anyone to buy used GTX 1080 instead of RTX 2060. You will get used card, but with more power and what's more you will save about 65 USD. Anyway thanks for the video! :)

[@JasonHendry22]

the 970 G1 Gamer was 300 pounds UK. the 1070 was if lucky 430 ok pounds and should have been 300 to 350 max. the 2070 a joke. should be 300 to 350 which to me is a mid ranged price. I'm not paying stupid prices for a 2060 a card that cost the same as 3 to 4 year old 970. are people mad.

[@jamesholcom6025]

munchy 22 that’s just plain stupid. Don’t buy it then

[@purdy9431]

I got a 2070 for around £450 and it was cheaper than stock 1080's and a fraction more expensive than a 1070, even if the ray tracing turn's out to be an unused gimmick, I'm happy because when the next thing comes along the generation label will increase the resale value and the FPS is good on the card but yes of course I want it cheaper.

[@purdy9431]

@@theowolf6334 Ebay is hit and miss though, the buyer is well protected with the initial purchase but an ex miner card would of been pushed hard. I think nvidia needs to seriously look at pricing structure but lets face it the PC market is shrinking for them, they are getting desperate and increasing pricing as a response.

[@Uncatchab1e]

im in that similar situation munchy, i also have a gtx 970, it has been a wonderful card and ive been watching and waiting to upgrade, course mind you i bought it shortly before the 10 series launched, so it will only be 3 years in march or april since i got mine, ive considered getting a used gpu, but i did pay 290 for mine new, so in that price range i guess it would be a fair upgrade to finally switch to 1440p, obviously i dont believe ray tracing has matured enough yet, but im unsure how much longer i should wait before upgrading if that makes sense

[@Darkhan9]

It was a smart strategy on their part to get rid of the extra Pascal stock. Too bad they threw customer satisfaction out the window.

[@GoodGamer3000]

This shouldn't be how it is. Nvidia is still overcharging. They should be releasing cards with better performance with the same price of last gen, not basing price on performance compared to last gen. I'm hoping AMD has something up their sleeve in the mid-range for a better price.

[@Denelix]

Linus and Jayz uploads 5min from each other abiut the same thing wowzers

[@RadialSeeker113]

The review ban got lifted

[@GregzVR]

It’s called an embargo being lifted.

[@brandonaerys442]

*and bitwit and paul and GN and probably others i dont know*

[@WunkusMcDunkus]

And with two completely different review opinions

[@howardheverly7050]

And for a change it’s Linus calling out Nvidia’s bullshit. I understand why Jay is excited about ray tracing but battlefield is having a lot of weird stuff going on with it and I just don’t trust any performance bench from it. My 1070ti ran 50fps on medium at launch then switching to dx12 shot me to 150. Meanwhile my buddy with the same specs can’t get more than 50 no matter what he does

[@sumitsingh1254]

Jay, if I paired RTX2060 Super with i3 9100f, so will it bottleneck or not?

[@Vt0702]

Sumit Singh yessss dont do it

[@sumitsingh1254]

@@Vt0702 and with 1660ti?

[@Vt0702]

If you want to understand bottlenecking the better the cpu the lower the bottleneck so at least i5 9400f

[@MyFireworkDemos]

LOL. I have no interest in RTX. Nvidia needs to bring back the GTX line if they want my money.

[@harshhinge364]

agreed. smh rtx

[@Waldherz]

I guess they won't get your money then.

[@MyFireworkDemos]

Well if they drop the price by $100 that would work too. I just have no interest in paying the early adopter tax for a tech that is going to halve my framerate and am never going to use. I have been an Nvidia customer for a long time, but now I find myself waiting and hoping that Navi will deliver the frames per dollar I am looking for. Sad day.

[@harshhinge364]

@HB C it's just rumored no sign but still rumored, they should be presenting 1160 now but instead we had a look at rtx 2060 which i hate

[@milo20060]

Ray tracing techonlogy will be in their future cards it took over 10 years to make.

[@jayd6916]

If it had 8GB of vram and I just bought a 1070ti I'd be upset. However the 6GB is embarrassing. I find myself using over 6GB of VRAM playing R6 siege on ultra settings. Games are only going to require more moving forward

[@dfuma213]

Jaydeez FG4 I have a 1060 so I guess 6gb is perfectly fine for me because I won’t be playing at ultra. But man if I had the 3gb variant, my card would be on its knees begging for mercy

[@rancidmilktogo6129]

That’s allocated memory, not used memory. Games allocate memory as a fail safe in case it needs more but that doesn’t mean it is using those 6gb. Learn before you spew ignorance.

[@kosyoyanev]

You only die, without shooting anyone. Ask Dimitry to test for you.

[@tonkatoytruck]

That's the whole problem with Nvidia. All this talk about ray tracing last year, screw me prices, no software\games to support all this hyped hardware, and people just keep coming back to Nvidia. .....................Wow!!!!! A fairly priced 1070ti performance card for 2019 and all the Nvidia fans are all excited. I just can not understand how people can just keep giving their money to Nvidia after being screwed by Nvidia.

[@RamB0T]

Just snagged an EVGA FTW 1070 for $215 on ebay. Now that's a deal Jay! XD

[@renemejias2986]

but it was probly used right?

[@RamB0T]

​@@renemejias2986 Ya, at least it's still under warranty. Nice card to settle with until Navi!

[@TheLMMLAX9]

I mean. I have a 1070 I bought for 200 which isn’t hard to find them for which is a much better value at 200 than the 2060 for 349

[@vade2564]

Does it support SLI? Without this gtx 1070 might be better for future upgrades

[@vade2564]

@Darth Digital ohh boiiii you will be surprised. Gtxs 1070 in SLI is more powerfull than 2080 ti and you will still pay less lol

[@infernoodleOwO]

no, but why buy 2 mid-range cards instead of one high-end? makes no sense

[@ofon2000]

@@infernoodleOwO did you catch the price of a 2080? They are like 1,299 USD while he got the 1070's for 279 USD each on ebay...

[@Ace342]

No seriously, can you actually say that?

[@blakebarnhart564]

the metal music is so nice

[@rhysmuir]

Your testing was exactly the same as the stage demo... How much influence did Nvidia have on your review?

[@Krytern]

They all get a "review guide" from Nvidia for every release. Some KZbinrs stick to it more than others.

[@ryanvtec3885]

So this card will cost me $524.34 Cad after tax. I think ill stick with my GTX1060 that only cost $270 back in 2016.

[@coolronz]

we're getting hammered in Canada... :'(

[@TheLoucM]

@@coolronz we're paying the exact USD + exchange rate + tax. We're not getting hammered, we just have a bad dollar and higher tax because we dont let people die in the street.

[@Tkaya460]

Yup exactly. There is no good value here. Paying the same for trading blows with previous gen is simply unacceptable.

[@danieljones2016]

@@TheLoucM dont know about canada but here in euroworld there starting at 500 euros... this is no mid level or entry level shit,,, i work and dont mind spending the money on something i enjoy,,, i still think we are getting taken for a ride,,, and amd ,,,yea pfff ,,, either go head to head and bring some value to the table or ill stick with nvidia,,, as far as pricing here in europe goes amd is not value for euro... we need some competition

[@TheLoucM]

@@danieljones2016 yeah I was exclusively talking about canadian prices because of the OP comment. Euro really gets the shaft from what I read.

[@angrygreek1985]

You're missing the point here Jay. Price point is too high. I don't get why you are promoting this to be honest.

[@gravity00x]

Gotta cash that sweet sweet papa jensen cheque, thats why. who cares about telling the truth when you can have sweet $$$$money

[@angrygreek1985]

@@gravity00x sigh. I used to think more of Jay. But these days it seems like he's just turned into a marketing shill for whoever wants to pay him.

[@lap87]

I'm really disappointed Jay, you just followed the Nvidia press-guide (read: Propaganda) point by point, not questioning the increasing mid-range prices and lowering of performance. A couple of months ago everyone of you techguys got real confused at the release of 1070Ti, and now you act like it's a perfectly valid card to benchmark against? Can't wait for some cheapo competition to put the screws on nvidia soon, these prices are insane.

[@abedfo88]

im more than happy with my vega56 at 1080p

[@fuhrerhosty]

even as an owner of a gtx 1080 I gotta say Vegas are pretty good cards

[@inevetabledecline]

Even if I had an rtx card I wouldn't run it with rtx enabled. It's not worth the framerate decline for reflections that I'm not going to look at anyway.

[@jakemarino8623]

I’m happy with my used 1080ti that was $150 more :)

[@prestonjmathis]

Good deal man

[@manfail7469]

Yeah, used 1080tis are fantastic value right now.

[@CassanovaUgly]

Who do I trust Linus or Jay? I'm torn!

[@campkira]

best to ignore them sometime... otherwise you going endless buying card...

[@nigelnonicks4975]

What are the best options for nvidia graphics cards right now? Is a 2070 good?

[@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390]

Make it 249$ and I am exited...