this is what *actually* happens when you rely on your looks too much...

[@NkirukasWrld]

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[@Sweetestbeats-g1r]

Hey can you do the Diddy beef?

[@erzaay2k]

Boys a liar isn't ice spices song it's pinkpantheress song that's disrespectful to say she released it when it's not hers

[@FiragaJJC]

Boys a Liar is by Pink Pantheress... Boys a Liar Part 2 is by Pink Pantheress feat. Ice Spice. So many content creators get that wrong... show Pink Pantheress the recognition she deserves.

[@alicemichaelis9468]

Your ad placement was bothering me so much 😂. You were talking to us but just staring upward. Very distracting.

[@changelater01]

I love The Doors where did you get your shirt??

[@Autopilotas2003]

being completely uninterested in celebrities is a blessing

[@sweariefaerie9621]

Yes, yes, it is.

[@Rosemary46840]

Y'all delulu asses are clearly here super interested though. Y'all trying to big yallselves up but just lookin pathetic smh

[@liahlove8297]

Yes. I am forever out the loop.

[@wolfidessdragondol]

Fr, I can't participate or care for any celebrity drama cause I'm so out of the loop

[@nezukochann879]

I must say up untill now ive never heard of the Girl!"Im just NOT into these fake celebrities,im more into my Faith of the Lord Jesus Christ!

[@MartianMeli]

As a metalhead I love listening to drama vids about artists I know nothing about. Feels like I'm peeking into a meeting I'm not supposed to be in

[@noellecheshire713]

Yes, like I'm a Lorna shore one take vocal playthrough girl, but imma watch all this drama on ice spice lmao

[@auroraragazzoni4533]

I listen to kpop mainly, so this whole thing is like “Oh, this girl I never heard about apparently writes lyrics about poop and is very mean. I’ll now become an expert in the topic.”

[@orangemeooow]

fr but grunge music

[@_a_forest_]

Same but as a goth

[@JasmineBrown-ud2yf]

never have I ever listened to Ice Spice, or have any memory of how her songs go. I was just curious, and yes - I am standing in the corner of the room painted wall colour like Tobias Fluke

[@mooniecrooks]

Not Pinkpantheress not getting credit for her own song 😢

[@XavierEwing-mw3qp]

Sorry but my sister and me are big fans of ice spice

[@XavierEwing-mw3qp]

You thought I was feeling you

[@kn152-k4u]

​@@XavierEwing-mw3qpYeah...nobody asked

[@zakiez3609]

@@XavierEwing-mw3qpI’m questioning your appearance here

[@KaydenVelasquez-y8j]

@@zakiez3609I cackled sry

[@kelloveclub]

why does no one understand that boys a liar is pink pantheress's song not ice spice's😭 ice spice didn't release pt 2 shes featured in it

[@senorita-qh6bm]

I always knew this

[@stax5ave380]

Im guy and ice spice verse made that shit litter 🔥😂

[@beanietime3959]

Pink pantheress carried that song sm ilh

[@ashleyshim2078]

😂😂😂😂😂​@@stax5ave380

[@sayakamaizono5830]

@@stax5ave380 real ngl

[@cheyennemolinari1164]

Society as a whole needs to boycott this hypersexualization trend that is taking over

[@CaitlinMitchell-rr2qq]

That’ll never happen unfortunately cause sex sells

[@faebalina7786]

I’ve been wondering who buys this rubbish and gasses it up because we’re told the demand is crazy but it’s like clickbait it doesn’t mean people appreciate it they just see it as entertainment but i guess it boils down to clicks=money

[@anisa2273]

and that's on peirodddd

[@CaitlinMitchell-rr2qq]

@ yeah it definitely could have been better. To just say that sexualization as a whole is a bad thing is kind of an L take cause like I said, sex sells. Not only that, now a days women have free will and we can do whatever tf we want with our bodies. I’m personally a more modest person, but I used to not be so I see both sides of the coin tbh.

[@faebalina7786]

@@Somnavira it’s a take,an opinion, therefore subjective and actually easily evidenced.Society ‘IS’ hyper sexualised, people have access to sexual content younger and younger, young girls and women do feel a pressure to change their bodies and the demand for women to accentuate the parts of their bodies men find most sexual is currently a trend.And these features are forever changing.These trends come about because women are bombarded with imagery around the ‘perfect’ (read sexy) female body.Not to mention that many artists are pushed on the basis of their sexualised looks and this is marketed as talent alone add to that existing female artists feeling pressured to ham it up in the same way to keep the gaze on themselves.The porn industry is a multi billion pound one and that has consequences.Young boys are watching violent pornography and it’s reflected in their language and attitudes to women.Schools report seeing more overtly degrading language used by boys against girls and girls wanting to wear make up,lose weight,use skincare and dress to be seen as more attractive younger than ever before.

[@Riotmagg]

whats most incredible is that the world made ice world famous instead of pinkpantress, thats kinda baffling

[@monbub]

exactly, pinkpantheress is actually so talented and yet she barely gets talked about anywhere

[@-jenaissante]

Seriously! Pink panthress is so talented and her voice is angelic I don't understand why they made ice spice famous fr

[@INFP-Turd]

@@-jenaissante i assume because of ice spice “looking” more “iconic” than pinkpatheress

[@toxiczombiewolf5692]

​@monbub what kinda music does she do? Rap or pop?

[@idbbb]

@@toxiczombiewolf5692she does more pop leaning with a lot of cute vocals and stuff. She has a new-ish feature w katrayanda that’s a good example I love ittt

[@mimismithson5372]

People can forgive an unpolished image if the music is good. Unfortunately the music ain’t musicing

[@ashleyharper6408]

Exactly 😂😂

[@MoonMontag]

This?! It’s the reason why Ariana inspite of her ‘scandals’ (donughts till now) has not been cancelled cancelled ‘she’s called the best vocalist of this generation’ it’s not something easily replicated and replaceable (her talent) so people will still tune in. Nicki Minaj too, inspite of her scandals she’s still here because her talented is irreplaceable and stands out.

[@bluwater1422]

Lol.... But 4realz

[@Itsmejeremiahh]

I gonna miss her music I listen to it all the time😢

[@essies4294]

Her music is good

[@rubi414]

“I gotta change my diapa, cuz it’s full” I’m deadd😭😭

[@loriej.a.c1542]

😂

[@heavenland3504]

It's crazy that I can hear it in her voice reading that.💀

[@nicolebrown5987]

Is that a real verse?

[@KSATSpotting]

@@nicolebrown5987 no, but it's not far off

[@vxinl]

Ice spice talked about topics like that in songs before, so I couldn't put it past her to say something like that 😭​@@nicolebrown5987

[@Disglusting]

It bothers me that there are loads of male artists who have horrible attitudes and opinions but aren't getting their careers derailed because of it

[@rahwat3489]

Because their fan base doesn’t care or they share the same views

[@ANA801234]

Like who?? I def don’t want to support that

[@user-jg6zu5wt5x]

Cause they came up acting like that

[@Cassiekennedy-f3g]

Like who, do you just hate guys

[@annierminx]

People in the replies just proving your point lmao. Tf y'all mean "who??" when Kanye fucking exists?

[@youtubebroadcast6785]

Let's not forget that Rihanna had her own Mean Girl era. But the difference is, Rihanna had years in the game, a solid fanbase, and undeniable talent that drew people to her. It's not right to be a mean girl for any reason, but Ice Spice, she got too full of herself and mean-spirited way too soon in her career. And her team, enabling her, only made things worse. Ice Spice was still a newbie in the industry, even with big celebrities co-signing her, she hadn't built a loyal fanbase yet. So as of now, she lost 38 million monthly listeners in a year.

[@NlsnBckr08]

Plus Rihanna dragging people on Twitter did not came out of nowhere and there were actually reasons behind it

[@Aurora-lp9sn]

she’s also from the Caribbean so half the “mean things” she said were probably just blunt and honest 🤣 it’s how we communicate

[@ash6755]

lol. When was she in her mean girl era? What did I miss? Cause she still gives as good as she gets so…

[@StacyWaithera-v7m]

​​@@Aurora-lp9snnow this is some BS ,this thing of being mean then saying its a "Carribbean thing" its just whack ,Rihanna has grown as a person but that doesn't mean that she wasn't mean at some point in her career

[@shaniquefrater]

There's no difference...it was a different time...if Rihanna started her career now in 2024 her mean girl era would have had her in the same place as Ice Spice. People aren't so blind and forgiving like the early 2000s.

[@kn152-k4u]

It's a shame society will just continue to gas up artists bc of looks rather than talent. After Ice Spice is all rung out, they'll move on to the next one

[@Sarah_321]

@kn152-k4u and the thing is that it's going to keep going for a pretty long time too cause people these days care so much about the looks especially when she's a woman

[@TheMH1001]

You're both correct but who's putting themselves out in that manner? Individuals have to take some of the responsibility for how society reacts to them. Don't you think? It would be completely different if she had presented herself in a completely different manner.

[@khadijakhalfi2180]

​@@TheMH1001 you're right. If she wouldn't have presented herself that way things may have gone differently. She clearly wanted to be perceaved a certain way.

[@giu4028]

i think the person did meany to say why people choose to follow a person just for their looks and not for their talent? Like why people look just at the aesthetic?​@khadijakhalfi2180

[@sissysovereign1294]

​@@Sarah_321I agree. If she was a man people would have been moved on

[@mr_selfdestruct]

36:04 sorry but girl, that's just disrespect towards your audience. I am a metalhead through and through and also love other genres, but most gigs I visit are death metal/deathcore and when I go to gigs you bet your ass most bands show up exactly as it says on the bill. To be an HOUR LATE to your own show is just disrespectful, whether you are Beyoncé or not.

[@zjadacz_agrestu420]

yeah, I didn’t really get that point. Maybe it’s a US thing? I live in Poland and here it works like this: people in the audience always come on set times to concerts, aware that the support is gonna play for an hour and after that the main artist showes up. It’s the standard, except music festivals.

[@bbstargirltaylorss]

i’m from the us, hollywood to be specific. every concert ive been to, the main artist comes out 45-2hrs late, even if the opener started at the time the flyer says. usually after the opener, theres just a period where the hype dies down and the opener leaves and so we are just there waiting for the show to resume again. so maybe its a us thing. another thing is the concerts i go to are always rap, hiphop, r&b, and trap artists like don toliver, travis scott, ski mask, carti, teezo, etc. so maybe its just rappers and hiphop artists as well.

[@ivanavalenluna6663]

@@bbstargirltaylorssHello. I work here at the venues in Los Angeles, to be specific here in Inglewood (SoFi Stadium, KZbin theater, The Forum, intuit dome). This is a problem and a pattern I’ve seen ONLY with HipHop artists. When I worked Travis Scott concert last year, he was about two hours late to the concert. He blamed the venue for being the reason he cut his concert short, but the city holds a certain time for every artist to be off stage and it’s usually around 11-11:30. He would’ve had to pay extra to perform longer. Like I said it’s only been with HipHop artists where I notice this pattern. I usually work for Spanish and Pop artists, and they’re usually 20 minutes late at max. Rock/metal is always the one on time, sometimes even 5 minutes earlier than scheduled.

[@ladyeowyn42]

I have been to a lot of shows but not hip hop and am used the the opening act starting on time and the main like twenty or thirty minutes after that. I missed 20 min of the offspring at muckleshoot last year because parking was a mess.

[@Astral_thee_God]

I've only been to one show that had an opener. He was great, but I think it was about 20 minutes before the main artist, at the most

[@star_light.g]

HER WHOLE CAREER WAS JUST MARKETING. YOU DONT SEE FANS FIGHTING TO DEFEND HER.

[@tokyo6017]

Exactly lmao look at her manager for god sakes

[@mazelovesosa]

The munchkins were mostly barbz 😭

[@diper911_]

Why r we yelling lol

[@Slimydong_demon96]

@@diper911_its letters on a screen bffr ur ears ARE NOT hurting

[@diper911_]

@@Slimydong_demon96 it was a joke move along lmao

[@vicariously143]

Finally, a female point of view. I'm sick of all these dudes being misogynistic. Thank you for being level headed and smart.

[@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks]

Y'all will call anything a man says misogyny as long as it isn't glorifying women. A lot of men have the same opinions and views as the women in the video but will still get called misogynist. 🙄 (Edited: A bit of context because I thought the red flags were that obvious and people don't want to read my long replies: The commenter is calling the women in the video "level headed and smart" when she's hella misogynistic. Misogynistic Remarks About Ice Spice: She threw out some unnecessary, negative comments about Ice Spice that would definitely be labeled as misogynistic if a guy had said them. Hearting a Comment That Insult Ice Spice: She hearted a comment that put down Ice Spice’s looks, which just adds to the toxic energy. She also said "oop" like it was some kind of joke. 😬 Objectifying Assumptions About Ice Spice’s Clothing: She implied (thumbnail) that Ice Spice wears revealing outfits just to get male attention, which is classic slut-shaming. It reduces Ice Spice’s choices to being all about men, which is NOT it. Also, She hasn't even shown just how Ice Spice's action were only for men and not her female audience. In fact, All of the examples she shown wasn't even directly targeted at men. She just saw a hot girl and said, "Yeah, That's for men." Disturbing Comparison: She even said Ice Spice “looks like a high schooler,” which is both false and honestly kind of creepy. Ngl, I didn't think much of the comment because a lot of people make comments about me looking way younger than my age but by saying that about an adult woman has some weird undertones that just don’t sit right. Especially considering the main purpose of the video is to show how Ice Spice is "relying" on her looks. Despite all this, OP is calling her “level-headed” while ignoring how toxic her behavior actually is. It shows a double standard, where she's getting a pass for saying problematic things simply because she’s a woman.)

[@Stirling-Shade]

That's men for ye. They say sexist shit, don't listen, objectify women, and then blame women for all their problems. My sister is dating a asshole who clearly never listens. My sister was raging at him one time cuz he refuses to clean. I straight up walked up to him and told him his relationship is bound to fail if he keeps his childish behavior up. He just told me I don't understand how relationships works since I've never dated. Sure I don't understand how they work, however I ain't ever gonna tolerate a man child who isn't going to contribute to the household chores. Additionally his ignorance just shows his lack of understanding, compassion, and commitment. He'll just move on when he finds someone prettier. Then the younger men(18-24) are absolute jokes. The compliment each other on how much sex they can get. That's all that matters to them knuckleheads, holes. As they say a hole is a hole. Plus they slap each others asses and dry hump each other at work. Kind of hilarious. I can no longer men seriously. They're just idiouts who hold all the power and call women silly ad naive. Love it. I know it ain't all men, my Grandpa and my gay male friend are beautiful diamonds. Though let's be real, it's most men.

[@Stirling-Shade]

​@@Welchs-Fruit-SnacksYou could've asked her what she found sexist instead of attacking her. Ye know, try to understand her.

[@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks]

@Stirling-Shade Could've but didn't want to. If you think me calling out women for always labeling men as the bad guys even over the most bs reasons (cough cough the thumbnail of this video) is "attacking them", then you really need to stay off the internet.

[@Jahmar78]

@@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks fr men get called sexist for having opions on the crap women do instaed of glorifiying them

[@PlutoIsntReal_]

I'm still convinced she has some sort of fascination with poop, because how do you have multiple songs with lyrics like "They call me Ms Poopy" "You not even the fart" and "I gotta change my diapa" and NOT have a fascination.

[@ForeverL0vingH3r]

i think thats what she WANTS yall to think to get yall talking she blew up originally with a snippetthat said that and shes kinds just playing into it now as a ragebait typa thing

[@FayeLawnKrack3d]

Lmao it's just so juvenile like not even a teenager but a STRAIGHT-UP CHILD 😂.

[@starman6570]

@@ForeverL0vingH3rI mean smart but she did the most to even take selfies in the toilet 😂

[@Jaylin_.]

I think people forget that she got known because her music was bad the “you thought I was feeling you” was a meme

[@Correctgistlover]

This!!! I'm surprised people are surprised she's not that good musically, the girl came out with such a mediocre song that everyone clowned on but like some sort of sick joke the same people who clowned on her made her famous. Now they're the same ones crying about how tiktok gives fame to anyone? And I'm not only talking about men because women did this shit too, let's stop talking like only men were propping her up and buying her music.

[@1x._kk.]

I mean that’s not really her fault . She was fairly new in the industry and didn’t get the chance to grow and explore new sounds . Now that she has the chance she has the WHOLE public watching her so she’ll get more criticized

[@wallicabarnhill5287]

Omg this is THEEEEEE comment

[@HelloGudbye93]

RIGHT!!! I was so fcking confused when I woke up one day and she was suddenly headlining major music festivals all at once as if she was ever taken seriously!! I felt like I was in a fever dream cause I was like "where tf did this switch come from of the media trying to act like her blow up was from actual talent and not her being a walking meme/parody!??"

[@thebunnysaysmeow]

To be fair though Doja Cat did the same thing with Moo, but then again she’s also beautiful and talented so 🤷‍♀️

[@ramenaddict1676]

there is no life or passion in her eyes

[@fistbowl1848]

not phrenology against ice spice 😟

[@LKing-ue2jl]

Shes not smiling with her eyes in the press photo god save her

[@positivevibesveda]

cleo said the same thing!

[@boomerangswingsbothways]

Light skin stare

[@andromeda-p9966]

She has "I regret every decision in my life up to this point" stare.

[@ash71113]

the whole tour situation w cleo is beyond friendship like it's so unprofessional it's bordering intentionally sabotage

[@PattiTalitha]

"I'm his poop but I never smell" brother ew 😢

[@claudiabearington3280]

Like what does that meann 😭

[@actual_doge3221]

Brother ewe, what is _that_

[@Bunnguinini]

REALL LIKE EUGGHG

[@Ly.chiizz]

Poopie* also it’s an English pet name. It was more popular a while ago. It’s a play on words yall can calm down 💀

[@Bunnguinini]

@@Ly.chiizz I guess that would make sense but I think it's more of the fact that's it's in so many of her songs

[@Theestallionsimp]

The "freestyle" twerk video made me physically cringe. I'd rather just stand there.

[@monicataylor5529]

That's what I came lookin for! Her music never did anything for me. Her rhymes seem childish and I wasn't interested!

[@PlantMeAPlanet]

@@monicataylor5529honestly,all she ever talked about was farting..

[@NotaShorty]

rightt and it didn't even reach the camera 😭

[@nyohohoo]

She couldve dance or just vibe...but no.. she choosed that

[@bakugousboobs7680]

@@nyohohoobruh

[@kokitrees7394]

As someone who usually attends Kpop concerts, it honestly shocked me that other concerts had this unspoken understanding of starting around an hour late. I'm used to the official start time being the actual time that the concert begins, and you have to get there really early because of the super long entrance and merch lines, since the concerts are punctual and you otherwise wouldn't be able to get in on time. It genuinely baffles me that an artist would start so late

[@Nunyabusinesssa]

This is the least of your worries if you’re a K-pop Stan

[@kokitrees7394]

@@Nunyabusinesssa Meaning? lol

[@Nunyabusinesssa]

@@kokitrees7394 because there’s way worse things happening in that industry

[@kokitrees7394]

@@Nunyabusinesssa Oh yeah, always has been but its been especially prevalent lately

[@rdmname]

@@Nunyabusinesssa yeah, like top having smoked weed, now being in squid game s2 and yoongi falling with a grandma scooter. the worst ppl can do, obviously more despicable than vip's being grapists /s on a serious note, i rly hope you're not supporting this certain bunch of entitled brats cause this would completely destroy the whole industry, as investors won't be inclined to invest in artists who could dump their contract on a whim. if i get into a contract, it's binding and i can't decide on a whim that this loan contract is invalid cause the boss of the bank didn't greet me personally. sry for the rant but this is just how it is.

[@damarissanchez7678]

Ice Spice is sooooo BORING. I caught on to that from the jump. She has zero stage presence. She's relatable in that she's just.....meh. Just like all of us other regular folk.

[@lunavurt]

@@damarissanchez7678 she cant even hold a conversation in interviews. it makes me sick

[@NiyahSawThat]

@@lunavurtFaxs. Even Sexyy Redd is somewhat interesting in interviews. The Sunadae Conversation interview she was in was hilarious (but that could be just because of the host.)

[@damarissanchez7678]

Even she knows it. That's why she just starts twerking when things get awkward😂 it's her "look what I can do" trick

[@lunavurt]

@@damarissanchez7678 she’s worse than a dog

[@jm8837]

​@@damarissanchez7678 her ass is the bread and butter of her career. 😂

[@flighter7713]

You all are seriously underestimating the power of her manager elliot grange son of lucian grange, ceo of universal music group. That is why t swift and nicki really collabed with her.

[@tokyo6017]

This is it honestly

[@seppo532]

Now it makes sense.

[@jimin8006]

Interesting

[@xSeductiveNEKO]

Taylor swift collabed with her back then because her bf at that time (some pretty famous singer from this popular band) bad mouth and talked shit about ice and her music on a podcast. When Taylor's PR team found out, they made Taylor reach out to spice and start a PR friendship. It was purely just to save Taylor's reputation.

[@maddybarnham]

taylors collar with ice spice made no sense. this makes it make sense

[@uniphants914]

When you were saying "was the album really bad?" YT cut to an ad with a man looking very distressed and I thought you had put a reaction image lmaooo

[@veramartin6642]

i love these types of comments YESSS👏👏

[@Sarah_321]

Literally these days, those new girls coming out all follow the same shit..they arrive, with a tiktok challenge, get famous, get called the IT girl, rely their entire image on the male gaze, release repetitive music then people start to get bored, the fame gets to their head and dudes give up on them. Literally the same shit over and over again

[@Lanaxparillaxwife]

Facts

[@Mello_Art13]

Ima need some examples

[@sissysovereign1294]

It's literally the same ghetto cookie cutter soft porn stuff.

[@camaroonprincess]

FAAAAACTS

[@duckyfluff3886]

REALL

[@ariannamyrie9520]

The comment about her looking like a high schooler, people being attracted to her, and whatnot hits hard. Cuz most people, strangers think I'm 15-18 (even though I'm 26), but they still were attracted to me, they told me to my face, most of them men.... it's creepy.

[@belindab3900]

Idk if it because I'm way younger than her or something but I don't know if I see her as a high schooler imo but I do see her as a young adult finding herself out still

[@ariannamyrie9520]

@@belindab3900 I feel you on that one. But, yeah, for me my sister who is in high school right now, she unironically says that I could easily, based on just looks, go undercover as a student, and no one else would notice 😅 Using that metric, that makes me wonder what she would think about this one aspect of Ice Spice.

[@squishymellowowo]

Exactly like, how are we shaming someone's youth? Because they don't match their age number, some people mistaken me for being 17 i'm actually 22😂 sometimes and I don't even see. I think I look older than my own age.

[@Lasagna_Garfield_]

I’m 27, petite and look younger than I am. Gross men constantly hit on me and immediately lose interest when I tell them my age. It’s so creepy

[@okokoklalala844]

And these strangers are always old and married 💀

[@AndAllTheWhileAnimalsSuffer]

As a mortician, there is nothing weird about graveyards or death itself. We all die at some point, you're gonna be in that yard too.

[@crunchnmunchsweettreats]

Right like girl… be so fr

[@tiapatterson4192]

Talking bout she don’t believe in “that stuff” but burn incense 😂

[@annahunteranna]

and Storme is right that cemeteries are peaceful. I'm not goth, but I don't find them (or death) scary

[@saviorli7176]

sorry girl i’m dying to know your lip combo it’s stupendous 😩

[@edoboleyn]

It really is! 😮

[@talb.1805]

Check description

[@rosed_08]

FR OML 😭

[@isukkilol_]

its in the description btw! I’ll still type it tho for the lazy ppl 😭😭, Mac cosmetics lip pencil matte finish - beige turner/dusty beige costs 34 dollars, revlon lipgloss super natural 215 costs 11.99 dollars, mac cosmetics lipgloss high shine finish shade c-thru costs 33 dollars

[@saviorli7176]

@ omg thank you so much loooool

[@zie8238]

Omfg THANK YOU. I’ve said this from the day I first saw her. People like her and other artists (sexyy…) make female rappers look so bad. And for her to claim Lil Kim, Foxy, Nicky, as inspo is so insulting 😭 She has no wordplay, the same flow, and the exact same lyrics in every song. There are SO many talented women out here, we need to stop letting thirsty men control the female rap industry and start uplifting actual talent

[@JesseIsAnAngel777]

GET THIS TO THE TOP FR 🔥🔥💯🔥🔥💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@GalaxyGamer0960]

for ages I thought I was the only one who felt a bit weirded out by it, turns out I wasn't just "jealous" as some might assume, I got a weird vibe about her shaking that so much and the lyrics being outright questionable that made me really wonder why she was so popular anyways

[@sh4lin1]

alr not too much on my girl sexy now...

[@zie8238]

@@sh4lin1 Nuh uh girl, I understand that her music gets ppl lit but she's not a good person or artist imo.

[@Jacindarella46]

At least sexxy is authentically herself and has personality

[@Imagine-Delulu]

Off topic. But those jellyfish in the background are soo freaking cool

[@kirat5009]

I was just looking at them!! So pretty!

[@comkver]

For real, I wonder if it's holographic

[@boxcutter4]

@@comkverThey‘re made of silicone

[@itsyaaveragegirl]

I think you’re kinda reaching saying she looks like a teenager. She looks her age. I think the real issue is that teens are looking and dressing like grown adults so now it’s kinda hard to tell the difference nowadays.

[@pescuezoee]

fr cuz girls be 13-14 and wearing such revealing clothes like wtf 😭

[@theonebreadlord]

It's because the concept of childhood has shifted massively. There's no need to blame girls who are just like two years away from having been children. It's that the exposure kids get from the media changes their view on what they SHOULD be. And let's remember that teenage girls literally cannot buy whatever they want to buy, they are kids, it's the parents that allow it.

[@sydani1887]

yeah i agree and it’s kinda weird to say that she looks like a child when she’s literally bent over most of the time… her face may be a baby face but it’s not to the point i would even mistake her for being a freshman in college. i’m a college freshman and she looks older than most of us.. i think they only see her as younger bc of her eyeliner style and bc she’s lightskin tbh. idk why people see lightskin people as younger but they really do and it’s kinda weird and fetishy

[@itsyaaveragegirl]

@@theonebreadlord that is not true. teenagers can buy their own clothes especially if they have a job or if they get allowance from their parents. Are there parents that allow this behavior, yes, but we cannot forget that there are plenty of examples of teenagers choosing to dress this way. When I was in highschool i remember girls that would change their clothes after leaving their house so their parents wouldn’t see. Though I agree that social media plays a lot into this but believing that these teenagers cannot buy their own clothes or bear any responsibility for their choices is naive and it infantilizes them.

[@theonebreadlord]

@itsyaaveragegirl that is, in NORTH America. In other places it's too dangerous to go out all alone and have a job or allowance or go out shopping without any supervision. You're speaking from a very different perspective.

[@richcleme]

There's something about you and your videos that quite intrigues me even though I don't really like gossip and drama. I'm usually a sports guy and pretty much get bored when watching other types of content other than sports but I never skip your videos or leave mid-way. Anyway, keep up the good work!

[@su-d1t]

Ik so weird how a person's delivery and demeanor can mean so much....I had to turn this other channel off even though I was completely interested in the topic because the delivery was stressing me out😂

[@mariabrown6926]

It's because she's intelligent and speaks clearly and concisely. Also being beautiful helps lol

[@shemmygee1256]

I think it’s because she offers a sociological analysis and a psychological analysis. Maybe you should study psychology or major in social studies in college if this is something that interests you!!

[@Rosemary46840]

She's definitely no more pretty than ice spice is ​@@mariabrown6926

[@CorvusAmbrosius]

as she speaks about divorced parents im sitting in my mothers flat with no heating, a mattress bed and using my phones hotspot for wifi because my father kicked her out :)

[@majesty_viry]

stay strong, there are people who can love you out there, and life still left to enjoy

[@piercethephoenix517]

wishing you well. you can do this! :)

[@QJacPLo]

It gets better 🥰🫶

[@Isa-vl6qr]

let her vent lol

[@Lily-lc5ox]

IKR, i have never heard that take on divorced parents lmao. Its not easier or a vacation unless your parents are rich

[@elizabethchint2391]

It wasn't her looks... She was getting dragged for her features on Twitter daily. Her butt was what people glazed over.

[@cööm007]

And the void of color skin

[@UniquelySustainable]

it was her looks. Plenty of women have big butts. Her zero-melanin skin was the major striking factor and that combined with her curves drew people in, her Annie wig was also a striking gimmick. Her cute style (which Cleo said Ice copied from her) had a lot of appeal too. Some folks attacked her for looking disabled but the majority saw a super light girl with a natural BBL and that was in vogue. I do think she had a unique look that would make you take a second look.

[@justimani4]

its definitely how light she is , if she was darker than that you best believe she'd be nowhere near where she is and dragged even more relentlessly online

[@Backbite124]

@@UniquelySustainableevery guy I’ve spoken to mainly gushed over her body rather than looks, not trying to be mean she is beautiful but leaning more on the male perspective that’s mostly the responses I got or saw

[@elizabethchint2391]

@@UniquelySustainable No. Like I said before people were saying she was ugly asf, and looked like she had down syndrome. Guys were saying that they would have to put a bag over her head if they were to smash. Colorism is a thing but features play a big role too.

[@TheRealCalypso]

0:38 and how quickly she lost industry friends almost overnight

[@andrenajones767]

Im shocked at the amount of people that took her seriously.

[@Angel_Auraa]

SAME

[@lordleyla2134]

idk girl i don’t think she looked like a teen, especially when she was thicker. ofc she looks youthful, she was born in the 2000‘s. it has nothing to do with lil curly fro too

[@kawansiesquad6659]

As a teenager, ice spice looks exactly like a teenager. I think it’s her round face that looks kinda like baby fat u know? I have a round face and get mistaken for being younger than I am and I can see that same face shape in ice spice

[@princessnicki63]

@@kawansiesquad6659 No, you just don't interact with adults. Clearly. Because this is what most healthy adults in their early-mid 20s look like.

[@lavenderportals]

​@princessnicki63 most healthy adults look their age

[@lordleyla2134]

@@kawansiesquad6659 i’m a year younger than ice spice and she looks like people my age so idk maybe yall look older

[@natolmills632]

@@kawansiesquad6659the people you hangout with probably look other than their age, because ice don’t look like no teenager. My brother is 17 and him and his friends look like babies compared to ice 😹

[@Genam888]

Toilet selfies were cringe back in the early 2000s and they’re cringe now FOREVER

[@baileymoran8585]

They’ve been cringe since the first douchebag with a first gen smart phone decided ‘take a selfie while taking a dump!’ Everyone knows that you shit. We don’t want to tho k about it.

[@jessicareynolds8011]

They typically call people that just pop up outta nowhere and doing very well a "industry plant"

[@michaeljeffery7466]

She was Fucking alot of people bro. People neglect to mention that. Almost anyone, who had any clout there's a sex-tape of her Fucking them on the net. That's where the "industry plant" comes in, she was 'industry pussy'.

[@adir6094]

25:29 the thing is it’s easy to get fooled by a friend into thinking they are a good person. Esp if there was a real bond before shit went sour. So it takes time to admit it to yourself that your friend is pretty bad and admit to yourself that u got fooled by them too. I’ve had a friend like that too, I thought of her as a sister, but then she just took a weird aah turn after a few months. Took time to realize she was taking advantage of my empathy to farm pity from me (and many other people).

[@nameisamine]

Ice Spice could well recover, but we need to make sure people are here to stay before majorly co-signing them. Taylor and Nicki look silly now for giving her SO much priceless exposure thinking she was the next big thing, just to realise the hype was "hot air".

[@lunavurt]

@@nameisamine she will never recover from this. she was a joke when she first started. the people gave her a chance and she proved herself a joke again. Just like nobody takes bhadbhabie serious anymore, she will fall off.

[@Rosemary46840]

​@@lunavurtno one ever took bhad bhabie seriously except for idiots

[@Rosemary46840]

They don't look silly at all. They had fun made bangers and made money , y'all with no life reading way too much into ish

[@nameisamine]

@@Rosemary46840 nope. Working in music pr for living I would feel silly if my client was championing somebody as ‘next up’ all for them to end up stumbling commercially after so much push and momentum. Nicki Minaj co-signed Ice Spice as the princess of rap. Taylor rarely goes above and beyond putting a collaborator on such a pedestal. It’s makes you look like you had a lapse in discernment, and opens the door for critics to question your eye for spotting talent to collaborate with. We‘d just pretend it never happened and move on.

[@HazyFace_]

She can recover, but that'll take a couple of REALLY good album releases. And her stopping showing off her body all the time. But I'm not sure if she can do that.

[@sherlyncarpinteyro8841]

I remember the baby storme thing bc I follow her and that video made me go “oh god this girl is going through a psychotic episode” and she kept denying it it for a couple months. She came back and basically admitted she was going through an episode and I feel horrible for her for going through that because she also experienced a miscarriage. Can’t remember if that happened after or before the episode but I wouldn’t be surprised if it came before and triggered the episode.

[@CamilaNataliaBreide]

I think we are growing up and setting beauty starndards out of the dolls we played with: we had Barbies, then Bratz and Monster High, and this girl looks like a LOL surprise doll. What are kids playing with now?

[@its_jue13]

Ipads

[@sissysovereign1294]

This is way too accurate xD

[@lovericepudding]

😂😂😂 not the LOL surprise doll

[@justarobloxplayer69]

​@@its_jue13 So round pancakes are gonna be the next standard

[@mrpurple11]

Lol. Interesting perspective. 😅 In that case, it's girls the target audience. So they played with them, then they took on their features to imitate and became the interest of the boys with the same age. All during both their awakening. Then what..?

[@Parshi._.g]

I remember when I first heard abt her I listened to her music and didn’t understand the hype at all like she’s beautiful af but I was confused on why people liked her music (esp as someone who vibes w 99% of all music)

[@ewe392]

Because her look is like literal porn

[@PirateToyhouse]

Her music also isn’t my type…

[@xxstar553]

ik this is random but the saki k pfp is iconic

[@cupidery]

no fr

[@supakku-pc]

@@xxstar553real I’m obsessed with anime ngl

[@hopelessouI]

only reason ive been pushed to 'expose' my friend, was when her bf assaulted me and she tried to make excuses for him. all my other friends were in the same friend group so they obviously were concerned as to why we werent speaking all of a sudden, and although i didnt say anything initially, when she tried to lie and say we werent friends for OTHER reasons (that put ME in the wrong somehow), i blatantly told the truth with receipts (: sometimes exposing a friends true nature IS needed

[@DajanaZ]

dear hope you're alright❤🫂

[@martajomaa]

She doesn't look like a teenager, come on people. She looks like she is in her 20s.

[@z0z111]

I agree she mainly looks her age but she's playing into the teen fantasy men have 15:57 It's pretty common marketing for women musicians though, so I'm not shocked

[@Rosemary46840]

She's not playing into any teen fantasy tf, she's a grown woman who acts her age, this jealous woman in the video is super reaching ​@@z0z111

[@Fire_Moon_Tarot]

Her whole vibe is teenage bop

[@UnashamedCaliforniagirl]

There really isn't much of a difference there

[@user-your-guilty-pleasure]

@@z0z111 isn't it extremely concerning that men have a teen fantasy?

[@squishymellowowo]

Honestly, I don't think ice spice looks like a teenager. Even though her face looks really youthful in her early 20s that's nothing wrong with that. She never gave off that type of energy to me, but ice spice doesn't really give off versatile rapper. Honestly, I think she should just stick to like modeling. She could have just been an instagram model and called her today😂

[@giftedpurpose5369]

Exactly! She could have been the girl that dropped “munch” and went into brand deals and some acting.

[@lunavurt]

she couldn’t even be an insta model because she has 0 sense of fashion. she steals her friends outfits

[@NiyahSawThat]

Idk I always thought she looked older, I didn’t know people thought she looked like a teenager because she defiantly doesn’t

[@lunavurt]

@@NiyahSawThat she looks like a granny but she tries to look young

[@Rosemary46840]

​@@NiyahSawThat anyone claiming she looks like a teen is a creep if that's how teens look in their mind

[@andreinapereira552]

she doesn't look like a middle schooler at all, and the way she looks is not her fault, he doesn't have a say on how young she looks, it's her genetics. she's literally YOUNG, of course she looks young, there's nothing she can do about it

[@dillysworld5447]

people needa realize that women still don’t look different from senior year- to like early 20s

[@alexanderh8129]

real like why r we being weird about how she LOOKS

[@dillysworld5447]

@ like I get it if she’s LIKE actually altering her appearance to look like a kid like that Bella Delphine bitch but she acts grown and acts like a 24 yr old. No one is mistaking her for a kid

[@ForeverL0vingH3r]

@@dillysworld5447 like it isnt a DRAMATIC change from 18-24 she clearly looks 24

[@ObsessionbyKen]

Actually she does it’s called manifest an appearance change, which is possible…

[@nixiemartian4658]

This is what we get when you have legacy artists cosign a new act because they're new and poppin atm and the legacy acts know they need to in order to maintain relevancy but they never do it with anyone with actual talent

[@oritsela]

Right! It was so bizarre to see THE Nicki Minaj hyping this girl up as the new princess of rap. What???? I guess this is what it has come to in this tiktok era

[@ambzskiii]

facts i love nicki minaj & that made me look at her differently

[@user-kx5en8dg7u]

@@ambzskiii nicki cosigns any new girl that kisses her ass, that's her MO

[@TamiaJones-oe4sc]

@@oritselaif you took a second to think someone blowing up = social media attention = getting money through business = making money

[@lunavurt]

ice spice didn’t become famous because her beauty is unattainable. she become famous because we all know a girl like her. it’s like watching the girl you went to high school become famous. it was funny and entertaining. it was never inspiring or life changing 🤭

[@SnapBack206]

Precisely

[@darnellbillings9733]

I can literally name her, Mikea. 😮‍💨 Shawty was majestic.

[@deeparao-tw2oe]

THIS! It’s not an intimidating or unattainable look, it’s a relatable approachable appearance

[@Celiababi99]

It’s cause she has a big ass a little waist let’s be fr

[@suoutubez19]

@@darnellbillings9733you’re still fantasizing about some girl from high school? Lol

[@meidson12]

you made a really good point about "friends" exposing conversations after a PERSONAL falling out. that's disgusting. unless it was something like abuse, why would you do that?

[@mileenakhan4778]

Yall give Ice Spice way too much credit. She aight. It’s more lightskin privilege than Pretty Privilege.

[@UniquelySustainable]

yes I thought this would be addressed.

[@Oneofusisthekiiller]

Yes because she ain’t that cute 😂

[@justimani4]

Honestly !!!! she's not bad looking at all imo but if she looked the same and were dark skinned she'd be another drop in the ocean . Her lightness is the only thing that carries her this much.

[@mileenakhan4778]

@@justimani4 exactly. She’s not bad looking. The Afro gave her a bit of an edgy look. But I don’t really get the hype. Especially since she’s lost weight. I think it’s because she looks really young; she appeals to teenaged boys and girls more.

[@PureNapture]

@@mileenakhan4778 she is not cute. Her skin looks pastey and sick. Her complexion is like a peeled potato.

[@khulilemanyatsi5192]

What I’m never seen being discussed about Ice Spice is the fact that she blew up during her come up. Most rappers have the luxury of having their come up be private, they can make those mistakes, learn along the way, and perfect their craft before they’re mainstream artists. The music we were listening to with Ice wasn’t music that’s been perfected over time, she never perfected her craft. She stayed a beginner because people hyped her beginner level music.

[@user9o777laont]

Well that’s because she’s an industry plant. Her boyfriend, Riot, has a father in the industry. some sort of popular DJ from NY and he’s super plugged in with Lucien grange apparently

[@littlesmallworld123]

@@user9o777laont No two ways about it. Nobody with such little talent is bolstered by top artists so quickly without the express intent of making money. Taylor Swift is absolutely worlds apart from her, Nicki's well past her glory days, etc. She became famous because (edit) her image was marketable, full stop.

[@user9o777laont]

@@littlesmallworld123 her raps are remedial. People wanted to like her because she was pretty but I know a bird when I see one.

[@MissCelestiny]

Someone called her an overhyped stripper lmao

[@BlowUpTheOutsideWorld]

Doja Cat got famous for her looks but talent and personality kept her there!

[@yolandamgulwa4869]

Yes unfortunately Ice Spice won't survive she doesn't really know how to rap 😅

[@sarahline9200]

Doja is a great performer it’s too bad she’s kinda problematic lol

[@michaeljeffery7466]

​​@@sarahline9200Abra should've won over Dojacat she's way more talented & they were coming up at the same time. Doja strips for 8chan Nazis & is weird AF. She also, doesn't rap anymore because she's attempting to appeal to white audiences. She should've been fell off its insane she received a Grammy. Check out her Periscopes/Lives from a minute ago, weird chick.

[@Astral_thee_God]

Her personality is trash tho 😭 Like, yeah she is funny, but she's suuuuuuper problematic. That's why me and all of my friends stopped listening to her like that

[@moemoeanisong]

Tbh it took me several years of hearing some of Doja's songs occasionally on Tiktok, never seen how she looked but I just found the tiny bit of music catchy, to finally listen to her songs fully, and THEN I started to look for her videos. So in my case, it definetely was her talent that drew me to her

[@saga960]

As far as public persona Jlo went through this when she first got started. She was a media darling, and slowly stories came out that she was a mean girl. 20 odd years later and her pr team worked hard to change that perception, but if you're a mean, guess you can't change that. Jlo's saving grace is she was an accomplished dancer, and a great actor. There was a lot to work with outside of music. Ice is gonna have to fight a bit harder to rehabilitate her mean girl antics.

[@kaiady8086]

Graveyards aren’t demonic. They’re peaceful places where people rest and others go to find some calm. Don’t think so badly about the dead

[@honeybabes2017]

not everyone finds graveyards peaceful though. everybody feels a certain way about things and it’s not always what you feel abt it

[@枒]

@@honeybabes2017it’s still weird to call them demonic imo. I can get behind everything else… but calling graveyards demonic? You’re gonna be in one of those someday & let’s see how you like being called demonic just for being dead.

[@pissass.8675]

I wish we culturally didn't have such a taboo around death, it's the most universal experience and I feel like we shouldn't be mythologizing something so real. I mean don't stop being scared of it happening to you obviously but yeah the way we automatically associate being dead with dark, evil, scary things just ain't right

[@littlefoxglove276]

yeah this felt. weird tbh. like people calling goths satanic bc they dress spooky or sth

[@imaniblack]

Ehhh she doesn’t look like a high schooler to me. She looks like a young woman because she is.

[@ForeverL0vingH3r]

literally like what is she talking about she looksnYOUNG bc she IS young shes 24 looking young doesnt equal teenager

[@247eboniedear7]

0:58 why he look at her like that 😂

[@snazzyninja6798]

😂😂😂😂

[@Genesis-m9t1n]

he was done with her bs lmao

[@juvon102]

The picture definition of unimpressed 😂😂😂

[@melraelee]

First time watching your channel, not into rap/hip hop whatsoever, and I'm a nerdy white woman, but girl! I enjoyed this video a lot. It was so well done, intelligent thoughtful commentary relying as much or more on facts as on personal opinions and impressions. Now headed to your main page to watch more. Thank you.

[@sdb9884]

I don’t even know these artists, but the algorithm brought this video to me and I watched the entire thing. You have a great way of keeping listeners engaged and entertained.

[@EmileeLBW]

That’s messed up that she wouldn’t pay her , charged her card, messed with her bag, and wouldn’t help her w her bags or food. Thats really wrong. Not too late for her to sue.

[@cynthialynncochran2019]

If you “ expose “ a former friend’s bad behavior after a falling out you’re basically exposing yourself because if you were ok with their behavior then that makes you just as bad as them.

[@cafe_rae]

Saying she's wierd for leaking a friends message after a falling out is WILD. I'm sure they are friendly, but they were also colleagues working together. She tried to get her to sign an NDA?! If my friend says some out of pocket shit I'll keep that to myself, if someone I work with is being racist/homophobic best BELIEVE I'm telling everyone in the office!

[@Lucius-s6v]

Exactly!

[@cutebunnyhops]

That's a weird behaviour! We're seeing only curated messages from ice space, babystorm might have said problematic staff as well, ice spice speaking openly about this topics and she never confronted her or made corrections? So she was friends with her all this time meaning she has same type of mindset and was letting it slide. After first message she should've dropped her and cut contact. Airing out someone's family business is 100% cowardly and out of pocket. Also leaked messages are violation of privacy. Of course her saying racist comments should be exposed! In a moment it happened! not when it's convenient and benefitting for her. It's giving high school drama/mean girls spirit, trying to gain fame out of situation.

[@feitme]

Baby Storme's style is perfect for her, those are goth goals. Ive never heard of her before this video, but dang!

[@VictorianCatLady]

Goth, like hippy is more than a fashion trend tho. Both are politically charged. I hate that everything is an asthetic now.... taking the meaning out just leaving a shell of what it once was.

[@2doot]

@@feitme goth is an attitude, not a look babe. Goth fashion can come with it, yes, but it's a music based culture. She cosplays as a goth.

[@feitme]

Y'all chill, whether or not you accept her as goth, her fashion is still goth and fabulous, and she wears it well. She looks like pictures we'd use for role play in Y! chat rooms back in the day 😂 or for Quizilla fanfictions, whew Lord lol Which either way, if she enjoys Bauhaus or not, goth still has an aesthetic that she fits. Don't let your personal distaste for a person cloud your objectivity. That's just silly.

[@2doot]

@@feitme "Personal distaste" she could be my favorite artist in the world, she's still not goth. I dress the same way. I'm not goth. It's not a bad thing, but goth is more than just dressing in black and poking holes in your face.

[@feitme]

@@2doot if this is the hill you want to die on, I won't stop you 😂

[@trinity4476]

The thing is when she first "blew up" it was because of people making fun of her music because they thought it was bad. She became a meme for bad music but people have a weird way of turning people being picked on into trendy "icons"

[@sasogie]

As a black woman, I always wonder aren’t women like Ice Spice and Megan thee stallion tired of shaking their butt? Like it’s tiredsome it’s boring it’s formulaic

[@ThatOneGirlzie]

What does you being black have to do with it? Not tryna be rude just confused

[@sasogie]

@@ThatOneGirlzie because black women are always the one showcased in the media for doing that so as a black woman, it almost makes me feel like that’s what we’re known for and makes me question the kind of message that other little girls are getting from it. I hope you see my point:)

[@moonlightkdd]

Megan can actually rap

[@kennedysanders4841]

@@sasogieBlack women aren’t a monolith, so how those rappers present themselves is a representation of them, not black women as a whole. Also other non black artists are sexual as well so let’s not generalize black women like everyone else does.

[@leaplittle]

the problem is men never get tired of it so it will always exist & be exciting in their eyes. im black & im sick of the twerking too

[@Aesthetique_Strawberry]

I feel like it’s a crime to be this early. I’m watching this at midnight right now 😭, but you’re worth it. It’s so weird how I randomly found your channel and now I’m obsessed with your content 😌. Keep wining periodt.

[@NkirukasWrld]

What a sweet comment! I hope this video is worth it😅😅your beauty sleep is important too!!

[@Aesthetique_Strawberry]

@@NkirukasWrld ❤️🤭

[@Chukwubuifem-m4b]

Sameeeeeeeee❤😂

[@mlemaire109]

As someone active on cosplay tiktok the amount of "public callouts" that are just people being shitty friends is mind blowing. Unless the person is a danger to others youre doing way too much by posting it 😭😭

[@MyDreamInWonderland]

Regarding Baby Storme accusing her...I didn't know about her before your video but since you asked about our opinions...what I can say is that sometimes we become friends with people without fully knowing them. And as time passes they begin to show who they really are, especially narcissistic people like Ice Spice. So we feel betrayed and hurt because there was initially an emotional connection for us to be their friends and we realize they hurt people around them and are just generally bad people. The problem is a narcissistic person is very charming so a lot of people love them and it can be very frustrating, + them being in the same world of the music industry, it can build up and we just want to show everyone who they really are. As a warning, and also so people understand where we're coming from. Because Ice Spice is the king of girl to make up stories about people who no longer support her or turn a blind eye to her disgusting actions.

[@deltasaves]

Agree with all of this. Though I've run into Storme, I'd never say she's a friend and she does have her issues (hoping she's working on them as we all can end up in a situation type deal one day), but I have been in that position and thought someone was a friend and you overlook small things for a long time. Took me a year to realize how terrible someone truly was because I was ignoring the little things because I was also an "outcast" a bit growing up. I know what it's like. But sometimes that is needed because people are totally trash and they suck up vulnerable people to "befriend" to look better.

[@sydani1887]

i agree, like people were calling ice spice a girls girl so i think it was important that storme brought it up and she had every right to. it was very obvious why she told us this, bc ice spice is NOT a good person and it should be known. people say this to storme only bc she’s mentally ill bc no one bashed cleotrappa when she came out with the same things! all her arguments were just ice spice being a terrible friend and everyone praised her for it but bashed storme when she said the same things? people didn’t take her seriously bc she was having a mental breakdown at the time but if u really looked at the evidence she had every right to come out and tell us

[@demon10205]

7:04 I remember when my parents divorced and told me how I’d be able to celebrate Christmas and my birthday twice as much and get double the gifts. Turns out it was really just 2 half Christmases and 2 half birthdays each year 😂

[@alize0623]

Wait you’re telling me Ice Spice was huge and didn’t try featuring her daddy or even using as a sample?? Nothing? Crazy work.

[@yolandaw3037]

I would neveerrrrr expose a friends (or ex friends) messages just because we fall out. There are people who did me so dirty that I will never ever speak to again but I still hold their secrets like they mine. The ONLY exception is if said "friend" starts blasting my messages/secrets trying to hurt my character, I would expose what I need to protect myself.

[@artheaux666]

Yeah but you’re a nobody, no shade girl. These are celebrities with an online reputation to damage, which is why they get exposed. You can’t hurt a celebrity like a regular person by ending a friendship and taking the beef to the grave lol

[@AmericanLord]

​@@artheaux666agreed

[@MaddieM_11]

@@artheaux666tbh we’re all nobodies

[@ynohs9446]

@@MaddieM_11yeah unless ur famous lol hence why things got exposed

[@brieonnijohnson9337]

This is weird when she was legitimately saying many -phobic and harmful things... she SHOULD be exposed for that

[@monokumaera150]

i have a toxic relationship w/ ice cause cause she is such a terrible rapper but the BEATS?? the beats are soooo good 😭

[@coco12period36]

Nah fr I agree😭

[@thelying2594]

Started looking up the beats separately and kinda praying someone else takes the beats and actually raps with it

[@aera3798]

Did she make the beats tho😂

[@KourtKhronicles]

So you listen to music irrespective of what they are saying so she could be telling you to worship demons as long as the beat sounds good. You guys need to wake up and stop being sheep in the music industry. It is embarrassing how black women support and make everyone in the industry rich while the entire world tears us down. Black women, we are our own earth, worst enemy because we don’t support each other, but we praise and worship all of these preferences, because you believe you will get some type of trickle down preferences treatment from black men that you worship

[@sirensims]

literally all of the beats are the exact same………. bffr. it’s watered tf down .

[@yas4814]

i agree with everything you’ve said except the “looking like a child” tidbit. dont know if that was necessary. to me, she always looked like an adult. i personally think what benefitted her was the fact she’s mixed/biracial.

[@meirie-nb5gn]

Ice don't look that young shes in her early 20s and looks like shes in her early 20s🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Rosemary46840]

Y'all that chick in the vid is reaching reaching smdh

[@diannaparis.]

Lol true. I never thought she was younger than 20.

[@CaramelCrown04]

She was reaching this whole vid to me. Crazy how the world turned on the girl

[@gabriellediann]

I completely agree. I think our generation dresses younger (including myself), but she does not look like a teenager. Also how does her wearing minimal makeup make her more like a teenager? I feel like I wore more makeup when I was younger and less as I get older.

[@kiarahart3114]

I'm so glad you said you thought Cardi B couldn't rap initially. I never thought Cardi B was talented and I HATED her voice when she started getting radio play.

[@lisalarsey]

adele songs are still being played though most are very old, because shes in the industry for talent, passion and not for exposing her body just for clout, and fame. Adele could never, such a discipline woman. Kudus to her

[@agirlwholovesgod1645]

I agree so much with you!! Class and decency! Her music is timeless and a joy to listen to.

[@thebridleclub5568]

I did take screenshots of one of my conversations with an ex friend when we had a falling out, but it was because they were threatening me and my safety, as well as stalking me. I took screenshots for proof, but I didn’t put them online, I just saved them in my camera roll

[@mikrosabre6135]

i hope ur safe now pookie!!

[@thebridleclub5568]

@ I am, thank you tho🫶🏻

[@Royalrockateer]

I thought her songs were parodies or skits, then i saw her get an award. I was like "oh nah"

[@Q-nr2dg]

I agree that she's visually attractive, and that a part of that is her choice of minimal makeup. But I'm not seeing how we took the leap to 'people think she's attractive because she looks like a teenager/school girl' ??

[@laurenmcgovern2767]

‘minimal makeup’ is kinda wild tho. she’s got a full face every shot here

[@Q-nr2dg]

@laurenmcgovern2767 yeah, true

[@OrcanicalK]

I've been subscribed for a while and I just have to say that your content is amazing. Your video essays are always an enjoyable watch, and your approach to speaking about the topics you cover is refreshing and informative, while also putting you own creative spin on it. I always look forward to your new videos in the morning with my cup of coffee before I start my day. You deserve so many more subscribers :) and I hope your channel continues to grow.

[@viisummers]

no shade but i wish ya’ll ain call her natural hair a wig. like sometimes its a wig but 8/10 its her hair. the hate she gets is valid but lets not bring it to her hair. 😭 idk , she’s still a blk girl & the rude comments on her hair length & texture ARE not it. just bc its looser & shes lighter doesnt mean to be mean. bffr

[@lilsoggins]

i honestly love the small fro and thought it was a wig! ty for educating me 😂😅

[@Sarmeilii]

It’s hard to tell… lol

[@eclecticraeen]

But...she also did wear a wig lmao

[@lunavurt]

@@viisummers she hates black skinned girls like you. do you know that? she’s mixed raced with who knows what so you’re going so hard for someone who wanted to ride d off being “nigerian” after being EVIL and CRUEL to multiple dark skin women

[@sillyperson2e]

@@eclecticraeenThe original commenter said “Sometimes it’s a wig but 8/10 times it’s her hair,” not “She doesn’t wear wigs”

[@dustishores]

absolutely WILD take saying cardi b can’t rap when bodak yellow was THAT song for the year, literally undeniably

[@mademioselle7729]

She didn’t write that. She doesn’t write most of her biggest songs so yeah technically she can’t rap

[@sav632]

@@mademioselle7729writing and rapping aren’t the same. Rapping is the delivery of the words and Cardi can rap. Whitney Houston didn’t do much writing but no one would ever say she couldn’t sing. Same thing here

[@jenny1443]

I don’t like that she doesn’t mind her audience being little kids.

[@Rosemary46840]

Womp womp cry about it

[@burninsage7126]

& had a 16 yr old twerking in her video. That’s 16 yr old said she couldn’t talk about Drake cuz it will “be in The courts”

[@anisa2273]

@@burninsage7126 yes that was gross. and just having a child audience and still having your whole brand twerking just makes no sense together

[@ff4irydimples]

fr she doesn’t gaf

[@tyf.5111]

I don't care about Ice Spice and based on this video she seems like not a great person, but it isn't her responsibility to monitor her audience. Parents need to step in and parent their child if the music they're listening to is inappropriate. Now, if Ice Spice actively chooses to incorporate minors in an inappropriate way in her music then yes, she 100% deserves to be held accountable for that, but people need to stop crying about artists not being child friendly.

[@Capn99]

My mama always told me about a woman she grew up with. She said she would always tell her “Pretty is as pretty does”. In other words if you act ugly it makes you look ugly and if you act pretty i.e. kind, polite, well mannered etc. then you look pretty. So I grew up with that and it made me more critical of my actions and it made me look more closely at others actions. So I can say I’ve met a lot of pretty people that are real ugly and a lot of ugly people that are absolutely beautiful. Yo actions really can determine yo beauty and the only way you get around that is if the person you being ugly too is blinded by yo looks cause a person who can see ain’t gone fool with you. But a rich man have many friends so you know. P.S. for a folk thats curious about that last bit its Proverbs 19:4. and it’s not worded that way I say it.

[@bangtanssera]

as a long term bts fan I've already learnt this by heart - once a female celeb rises to the fame in a night she definitely has male insider connections in the music industry. it's just such a common case I can't even try to be empathetic with this anymore

[@RavenfluxASMR]

I couldn't stop cringing watching those teenagers doing the challenge and twerking and they all look like 14

[@NostalgicBrainRot]

Girl u gotta watch The Substance if you haven’t already. The movies concept and plot portrays beauty standards in a way I think you would love.

[@actual_doge3221]

Cleo sounds really generous here. Like she did so much work, apparently wasn't even paid for it. And had to arrange her own hotel last minute.

[@emm1ta]

Ice spice is pretty but I feel like she really lacks a personality.She never really took the time to get to know her fans and interact with them everytime you see her interact with a fan it’s always so awkward and she looks like she doesn’t wanna be there. Ice spice really gives off the light skin mixed girl who says she was always bullied by the dark skin black girls for being pretty vibes

[@lindseymapouno415]

25:12 oh Yeah Baby Storm, was not taken seriously because, she a spiritual lunny. She had made several false accusations of racism, because she doesn't rent the very much public places where she film her music videos. Like the girl accuse a poor Walmart employee of racism and racial profilling, because SHE waited the very last moment to film her music in a public space, they were about to close the store. She was being a legit nuisances to employees but somehow cry Racism about the conséquences of her actions... Not to mention the weird "spiritual"meltdowns she had about leaving the USA and she went in a psychiatric hospital at some point, because of paranoïa, meltdowns, and spychosis. She, again somehow, manage to blame everybody else but her own behaviour for forcibly putting her in a hospital... That girl, has issues, but at least she was right on one thing, good for her.

[@zaraisamushroom]

Yeah she seems nutty

[@theuncappedneedleyouforgot2664]

😮

[@ohkaypretty]

Thank you for being the only commentary creator on this entire platform that knows how to pronounce the word "exposé" 😂 Love your work

[@milanannella]

I never liked ice or thought she was talented or listened to her music. I love lyrical & deep music so she was never my cup of tea & im sorry but she deserves what happened but no matter what, don’t ever forget where you come from& be kind… always!!!!! Just cuz you get some fame doesn’t mean you can’t be kind!!! She definitely showed her true colors

[@h.r.9563]

That annie wig was never cute.

[@NoName-sp5dp]

It mimics her real hair tho

[@ff4irydimples]

exactly

[@PuffinPsychologist]

CRAZY that only 1% said “Yes. We are no longer friends” to that poll… Yet, the leaking of private texts, recordings, and conversations after a friendship breakup is astronomical these days…People being straight up dishonest 😂😂😂. So happy I don’t have anyone to expose someone else to haha

[@nana_new]

This will be the weidest compliment, but - you have excellent diction and the ability to place accents in sentences. English is not my first language and I often have to turn on subtitles to understand what is being said in videos, but with you I understand everything perfectly without subtitles - because your speech is very clear. Thanks for the video, like and subscribe❤

[@observer5427]

'If you really want to see who a person is, give them money or power and see how they deal with.' I agree with this totally. People don't change suddenly. They act that way because they have let go of their inhibitions due to influx of money or power. In most cases, they are just showing their latent thoughts in actions. They acted much nicer because there were, maybe subconscious, 'concerns'. Now they don't have those concerns they act differently.

[@amandapanda5087]

I agree with this 100 percent

[@haybale287]

Ice Spice looks like one of those Alpha CC Sims, esp at 3:00

[@Backrooms.fan11]

LMAO STOPP😭😭😭

[@thatonerandomweirdo]

No joke.I got that SAME hairstyle she has in my sims mod folder rn

[@night_reader7229]

Oh my gods 😭