This is When You Should HERO CALL

[@Pokerbabbo]

Thanks for having me on the call Bart!

[@ewallt]

The spr is around 5. I’d be thinking of getting it all in on the turn. This seems to me both easier and more profitable.

[@relaxationmeditationsleep2934]

A. The pot is $70 pre B. Therefore the flop bet should be 45 or 50 C. Allin on the turn because it's just a potsize bet left

[@ahaaha8462]

honestly even on turn he can/should still over bet shove given his turn action

[@EllieBanks333]

I'm guessing they called it $60 to account for the house rake/drop. But I do agree with going bigger on flop & jamming turn.

[@sethypoker]

Poker Babbo is the goat!

[@Pokerbabbo]

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@JoeStacks72]

youre my favorite person to watch on yt bro thank u

[@jamesstevenson3116]

I love playing low suited connectors at this game. You play 6-8 ways to the flop so often. Flop the straight and quadruple up pretty easily. Or at least an open ended and they give you an amazing price. It’s stupid

[@mrhumble2937]

Its math. The times you do hit, and get stacks is low. So needs to be deeper. For it to be +ev to play suited connectors.

[@dormie9]

Didn’t mention the very pertinent information that he was filming for a well known vlog. People always want to bluff the vlogger so they can show. I’d expect to see 78 often enough without that information. With that information getting 4 to 1? Only folding to nits.. only folding to super nits if I’m Vlogging!

[@UURevival]

Seems also on the River when the board changes that a J high would at least think a second before jamming. The insta-jam seems like a tell.

[@jeremyhahn3612]

I think most Jx do bet the river. If he recognizes that we bet all boats and overpairs on the river and the fact we check shows that we ptobably have a middling value hand or A high, I definitely think this is a J more often than not.

[@EllieBanks333]

I'd bet QJ or better in villains spot, but I might check back JT or worse. I think Bart has a very low opinion of 1/3 players, perhaps with some cause. But a decent player should realize hero is never checking this river with KJ+.

[@digitaldavid5633]

Interesting scenario because I think in games like this, yes, Jx checks back a majority of the time, but I think it's also a case where overpairs should be comfortable jamming that river for 1:3 SPR on a low paired board. So, unless over pairs were getting trappy, I think they bet 3 streets, so a check river is more weighted toward less value and AK. Maybe that's higher-level thought over 1/3, and why Jx can jam there for value in bigger games. Overall, I agree though that the average 1/3 player isn't jamming J for value on the river when checked to. Good analysis.

[@EllieBanks333]

You think HJ has much QQ+ in his range given pre-flop?

[@1vailchris]

Not sure why Bart or anyone else thinks Jx is checking back here. If V has AJ/KJ/QJ, his kicker is blocking some of our over-pairs to his J's, and beating some of our Jx, like JT/J9. As played, no reason for V to think hero has AA/KK/QQ/74/42 when hero checks the river. Hero induced this bluff by checking the board-pair on the end. Even if we think V has Jx, we have to check-call here, getting these odds.

[@joevince6066]

This is 1/3 people are weak

[@jasonfullerton7763]

I call the river saying, "Show me a Jack." Can't fold, but dont have to like it. Shoving the turn is a better play given stack sizes.

[@Williy_Nilly]

Bicycle Club in Los Angeles 1/3 is a $120.00 by in max.

[@craigerc713]

Seems like a jam on the turn is a good play being that shallow. But since hero checked on the river..villian is probably thinking he's never checking a jack there so now he can rep a jack.

[@derekmcfarland9894]

This sounds like PokerBabbo Just heard the end lol Such a recognizable voice

[@Pokerbabbo]

Hahaha 💪

[@jamesstevenson3116]

I prefer 7 mile over Jamul, but it’s a nice casino. Reasonably good taco shop inside the casino is a bonus 🎉 If anyone visits San Diego from elsewhere, find you a good carne asada fries place… you’re welcome

[@jimmymason6893]

I know that distinct voice lol. That's PokerBabbo.

[@badfdsify]

That’s why I never go to chasers anymore , seems like they never want to run 2/5 when they finally do it breaks super quick. Unfortunate , used to be a really good game ~6 months ago

[@iambadatpickingusernames6669]

I’d have folded too. Basically only 4 bluffs combos (87s) and a lot of players aren’t trying to bluff you giving you such a good price.

[@anthonysteen56]

Assumption is that V knows and understands laying a price…for all we know V could think $100 is a big bet

[@MelissaGoulet]

When you say Chasers, do you live in NH?

[@gogonoise]

I would pot flop and shove turn (another pot sized bet more or less)

[@stevenundisclosed6091]

I hate the 100bb buy in cap in cash games.

[@speakinfaxonly21]

If he's calling 85 on the turn, he's not folding to 185 which is his whole stack. I'm jamming turn. Don't care how "unbalanced" it is. He's never folding AJ or KJ or even QJ.

[@Dexerion]

Exactly. The sizing on the turn was incorrect.

[@gabrielrockman]

Probably would have made sense to bet slightly larger on the flop to setup a slightly smaller shove on the turn. It's hard to see someone folding top pair to 45 or 50 on the flop.

[@ryanmundt8489]

Holy shit it’s Babbo!!!

[@Jermo484]

That's a pretty insane bluff from villain. For 1/3 pot while blocking a ton of the weakest things hero can have, I'm pretty sure you just have to give it up. You basically only get folds (sometimes) from two combos of 56 suited and a few broadway hearts, right? He should have just jammed turn if he's going to go for the bluff on rivers anway.

[@digitaldavid5633]

Villains always want to put you on AK at that level though, so I'm sure he thought he could push him off of AK.

[@Jermo484]

@@digitaldavid5633 then just jam turn.

[@ryanwill726]

my man pokerbabo!

[@Pokerbabbo]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@sneakkyz3696]

I’m jamming turn 100% of the time. He’s not folding a jack here. He’s not folding 78 ❤️ either.

[@justpickone]

Pokerbabbo! I’d recognize that voice anywhere.

[@Pokerbabbo]

💪💪💪💪

[@JQpoker]

Are you at chasers every week?

[@bestestname6757]

I'm putting in a block bet on river. $35

[@lincolnjeon2666]

and fold. why. check and call.

[@EllieBanks333]

Does hero check QJ on this river? Maybe... I think villain checks back with some JT. If I were villain here, I would not expect KJ to check here. How far down JX do we think this villain is? Does he have J8 here? I'd have bet bigger on flop & jammed turn. It's because of the SPR. Look how awkward it got by river. Hero is simply good here on both flop & turn so often.

[@zekebones34]

I know that voice, that’s Poker Babbo

[@Victor.David.Fernandez]

Yerp

[@Pokerbabbo]

Yessir!!

[@Lukas-qf2uh]

what about 7h6h?

[@TheTroy8]

Caller has a very interesting accent, anyone know what region hes from?

[@Pokerbabbo]

Born and raised in Spain with an american and Italian mother so a little bit of everything 😂

[@colintimp1372]

If you're going to call of anyway, why not just shove? There are some hands that you might get to fold that actually now beat you. They may have A6, especially A6 of hearts. Or 76, or perhaps they have a weak jack and may let it go.

[@beck204]

Aside from bluff catching, the only thing he beats are A6, A5, and pocket 4’s. How do you call that?

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

A6, A5 and 44 are bluffs. You’re never getting called by a worse hand. Although V should never really have any of those hands after calling the flop with a player still to act.

[@nicholi2789]

I know that voice! I follow his vlog.

[@Igor_Wackinov]

Is anyone having issues with the website. Every time I try to go to web page it says the site is not private and that attackers might be trying to steal your info from CLP

[@LukeLastname103]

Yea I think I call here at 1/3, people are always checking back a J on the river from my experience

[@officialghetty]

I recognized his voice from Instagram haha. He always plays 1-3 tho idk why. And at the same place everyday.

[@1vailchris]

Gotta jam turn when you're only going to have 1/3 pot left on the river.

[@EllieBanks333]

I agree. I'd have gone a bit larger on flop & then jammed turn.

[@1vailchris]

@@EllieBanks333 Yes. Good point. We should bet bigger on the flop, when OOP against two opponents who flatted our pre-flop raise, with this hand, on this flop.

[@EllieBanks333]

@@1vailchris I'd be interested in your thoughts about Bart's river analysis here. Obviously it turned out to be correct, with villain showing a bluff. I'm not too sure how I felt about his "all jacks check back here" idea. I do think some jacks will check behind, like JT. Some players might not go for thin value with QJ. But what does KJ lose to here?? How far down is this villain? Does he have J8 here? I would not be surprised to see J9. Finally, if the weak jacks are checking behind, are they calling a jam? Why can't hero have AJ or over-pair or a set? He opened from EP, C-bet from OOP into 2 opponents on flop & fired strong again on turn.

[@1vailchris]

@@EllieBanks333 I also don't understand why Bart thinks all Jx is definitely checking back here, though I could see why some weaker Jx (J7-JT) might check back, after hero takes the line he does here. Hero's line starts out looking strong, then weakens with smallish turn bet and river check. If we're V with a good Jx, what are we scared of after hero checks river? Is hero checking top boat or an over-pair, hoping to induce a bluff from Jx? Would hero think 77-TT ever bluffs when checked to? As V, our better Jx hands would have a kicker that blocks some of hero's over-pairs, so I think we can bet AJ/KJ/QJ for value here after hero checks, hoping to get called by hero's worse Jx or 77-TT, I guess because our range as V has some missed draws and worse 2P that might bet here. But if we have J7-JT, we can just check back and avoid a gross check-raise or snap call. At this stack depth, with these lines, I could see V calling a river jam from hero with J7-JT, because there are enough missed draws and some worse 2P holdings in hero's range. I could see hero getting to the river with some Ax/Kx hands that jam, hoping to fold out anything that isn't Jx, because their A or K blocks some of hero's better Jx kickers, making it more likely hero has a weaker 2P or a weaker Jx that might fold. Some opponents might be good enough (or bad enough, depending on your view) to turn TT into a bluff here. The thing about this hand is that hero's line induces V to bluff or go super-thin for value. If we're not going to jam turn or jam river from up front, then I think we have to call, even if we think V has a lot of Jx when he jams here.

[@stevenroberts5740]

Bart is the tucker carlson of poker

[@TheDaveWright]

The $2/$5 runs daily in Manchester.

[@nikto6956]

A decent preflop game will save you a lot of trouble.

[@edwincos4278]

I agree with the rest of people in these comments. Bet bigger on flop and Shove turn.

[@fluffysheap]

Fold pre, suited connectors aren't viable this shallow.

[@adday3006]

I hear you on this one, Bart, but I also suspect that part of the reason you are so confident is because of sample bias. No one is going to send you a hand to analyze where they were up against KJ and got shoved on. That's just too typical. I totally agree that lots of jacks are checking back the river. I think overpairs are often playing this way in position. I think there aren't many bluffs. So I think a call for 1/3 pot is borderline, rather than a slam dunk.

[@3betmonkey]

This is a fold pre.

[@sneakkyz3696]

Such a bad fold 😂

[@skelthouser2730]

If H had called and was shown KJ you probably would have said that he made a terrible call.

[@bryanjohnson8162]

I love how he keeps saying in a more normal setup. I'm not really traveled so I could be really wrong but in my opinion every casino I went to there are more lower stakes games than there are higher stakes So the normal would be 1-2,1-3, and 2-5

[@gabrielrockman]

I think he's talking about more normal as in the ratio of stack sizes to the money put in for the blinds and straddle.

[@MikeTidman]

All the money should have been in on the turn

[@AdamPawlowski-n5r]

Am I the only one still betting my Jack on the river? The hero literally never checks with anything that beats even a weak jack.

[@EllieBanks333]

I'd probably check back with JT, but I'm betting QJ+ confidently.

[@Eoin-m1h]

Lol at the certainty that villian isn't betting a J on river. I'm betting a J every time in his shoes ☕

[@ahaaha8462]

56 is not profitable in the long term when you call and spr becomes 3ish. This cali low stake game will bleed you out in the long term...

[@beck204]

“This is when you should hero call.” Followed by, “this is a fold all day.”

[@stephanie4205]

Ugh. I'd hate to be in the caller's spot here.

[@thurnishaley24]

Pokerbabbo is honestly soft af

[@lincolnjeon2666]

kj AJ SHOVES ON THE RTURNE EVEN QJ I CALL TOO.

[@lincolnjeon2666]

gool logic.