Would you make this $5000 Bluff?

[@CrushlivePoker]

What do you think of Squish's candidate with J7ss here to 3 bet bluff the river?

[@welcometoukraine3839]

Overpairs rarely folding on 1/3 game, on 5/5 - 50 ante game not surprised seing A5 folding

[@GetMeThere1]

Good content on this one. Thanks for posting.

[@nuklearwinter2892]

I feel like this hand would never be discussed if villain calls, which he would do in 95% of live games I play in Texas.

[@MrKingtenn]

100%

[@bryantaylor9874]

Yea this would never work unless you absolutely know your villain is capable of folding top pair or trips (neither is a given in a lot of games) bc getting 67 to fold just isn't happening in most games. Of course this wasn't low limit and the villain snap folded so kudos to the hero for knowing his man and making a world class bluff. Very impressive play.

[@Glitch47278]

I don’t think it’s a good play, I think it’s spew lol. Seems to just be classic results oriented thinking here.

[@jakecooper5855]

@@Glitch47278 It's not result oriented, it's player oriented. There is an enormous difference that I don't think many players understand. The biggest problem with game theory and analysis is that the player type variable has been completely removed and ignored. It treats every situation like each player will always play the identical way. The better players can see the differences.

[@paulpena5040]

I disagree it's an interesting hand either way. Hero just got unlucky that he ran into a villain who had the perfect calling hand on the river (rather than say an over pair like QQs or KKs) and then, as a twist, got lucky that villain wasn't skilled enough to call. But HAD he called all the analysis still applies.

[@elcoco1985]

timing tellls!!! now i will everytime take at leat 5 to 10 sec on every decisions i make in live poker, thank you guys :D

[@ESPPoker]

What an awesome move here. Such a sick bluff

[@ludo_poker]

Villain has the perfect hand to re-shove rebluff, but that would be a pretty sick move 🙌

[@bryantaylor9874]

Can we get an example of the unusual type of hand you mentioned where you turned a bluff that got jammed on into a bluff catcher? I'd love to see a breakdown of that kind of hand.

[@MrBleedk]

First mistake = J7s

[@jeniapim]

Great analysis by you guys, thanks a lot!

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

I love every time Marc is on. Hopefully we'll see a lot more videos with him.

[@freddiehavens9066]

One of the best CLP vids ever. So instructive.

[@NMxCrazySkills]

I love the take of where the value is in the current meta game. I have been thinking the same thing myself.

[@intrepidus3378]

"I will preface this by saying "squish my tomato"" 😂

[@moaf2padventures757]

am i crazy for snap folding pf??

[@EfficientRVer]

I think it's a risky 3 bet. The check back on the turn could be a boat hoping you catch a straight, flush, or smaller boat on the river. And it could be him hoping to catch any of those on a free card. So, the river 3 bet bluff is really relying upon what you feel is a timing tell, but not everyone who turned a boat or rivered a straight is going to go into deep thought over raise amount. They might have had a multiple of your bet, or a specific minimum dollar amount to throw in, already in mind with a nutted hand. Also, he probably has had some really bad experiences with having top 2 counterfeited on the turn, like all of us have. The 5 pairing probably instantly put visions of you having QQ into his head, despite your not 3 betting preflop. Not a monster under the bed, just the hand one pip better than his own. By the river, he was probably back to a normal blood pressure, and having you on something more like KJ, so had decided to raise most river cards for value, while still possibly getting QQ to fold.

[@jaredf9055]

Usage of counterfeited is confusing me and doesn't appear to apply here.

[@brucet.3239]

Terrible fold by villian. Hero is repping an extremely narrow range of slow played sets or quads, and villian has the perfect hand to call with.

[@joshuakennedy8094]

Yeah…. Especially since villain blocks JJ and 88. This raise specifically looks like either Quad 5’s, or 5/4, which would be a pretty loose call on the flop bet from hero. This would be tank called by anyone with half a brain and a little experience at mid stakes poker.

[@iambadatpickingusernames6669]

He could also choose to just 4-bet jam, given he heavily blocks virtually the only two hands that could call him enthusiastically, excluding 55).

[@nintendolover82]

Amazing. We have a great bluff candidate here, and rather than just snap folding the Hero took an incredibly creative line. That said, is block betting an exploit against people who won’t bluff raise enough? You would’ve bet so big as you said with a strong hand, so does block betting cap you to only thin value?

[@TheBarkanMethodofHotYoga]

Super cool…. Definitely an advanced move… and I’m glad he said in a bigger game… or deeper game… in small stakes I don’t think it would work!! Yes??

[@johnmar6376]

Another great video. Thank you bart

[@Keil253]

great call, great content

[@mattfox5933]

I get called by J8 9/10 times.

[@mrhumble2937]

The immediate check back would make me think hes trying to show weakness with a strong hand.

[@Marinate305]

Some high level stuff going on here.

[@icems61]

Squish is a bad nitty gritty nit, so 1 in a 1000 times his 3bet river is a bluff. Don't worry about folding :) Ego bluff imo, just got lucky with a hero fold.

[@shawnchouinard268]

In this spot when you know Villain is capped, I think it's an obvious bluff raise. Even if the hand properties of J7 weren't there and Marc showed up with a different hand by the river I'd still go with river 3bet as mentioned Villain can never call with less than a boat. Otherwise on paired boards, I'd avoid bluffing as hand strength doesn't change much and opponents are more likely to call off. I prefer to bluff non board pairs. Very high risk generally.

[@bhardwaj_abhi]

That was one hell of a hand 🙌

[@themaestro3222]

Incredible, WP Squish!

[@mattymcsplatty5440]

sick bluff

[@elephantricity]

what exactly is a BB ante?

[@nobbynobbynoob]

BB2 posts an additonal $50 ante into the pot, then game continues as normal.

[@merrikceadall4620]

What an interesting hand

[@raswartz]

Can someone explain how the blinds/ante work in this game?

[@nobbynobbynoob]

BB2 posts $50 ante on top of their regular $5 blind, then gameplay as normal from UTG with $5 to go.

[@raswartz]

@@nobbynobbynoob Thanks. So the small blind puts in $5, the big blind puts in $55, and then it proceeds from there, right?

[@nobbynobbynoob]

@@raswartz Exactly; a similar protocol applies in a lot of tournaments too these days (BB ante).

[@FastdounutTV]

Patrick watching this like "Damn it!!!!"

[@MrKingtenn]

I guess I am missing something but this seems like a results oriented self pat on the back by squish…PF call and river 3-bet decisions are likely -EV LT, and I’m not convinced that the villain’s raise on river is “never a bluff” which you have to believe for this to make any sense.

[@genekboyer]

I agree, it could be a bluff for the same reason that it could be a value raise, because he views the small river size as weak

[@johndawgsmoke1245]

If the villain bluff raises the river, it makes this play (block bet, 3bet river) more profitable. If it’s never a bluff, this play is less profitable. Villain shouldn’t be raising the river with J8 or overpairs, he should have a polarized range with the raise on the river because hero has more 67 and 5x. He should realistically have 88, JJ, 55, 67s and some bluffs. The raise fold by villain with J8 is terrible. J8 is the best bluff catcher candidate because you block boats and you are really only scared of 67 because 5x without a boat isn’t raising on the end, it’s just calling.

[@victorherrera3502]

Is Hero Marc Goone?

[@MrCarkyle]

How did he go from squish my tomatoes to hungry horse?

[@lakerfan1855]

Sick hand

[@clownworld5474]

Rivers get overfolded to raises. I 3bet river as a bluff 🤣🤣

[@yousefnassr49]

great play

[@johnrobs7556]

I check the river here all day

[@moneymikz]

Thank you! I’ve commented multiple times Bart always believes every river raise even though they’re always bluffs

[@lucasr648]

Someone: “No, I don’t have $5,000 :(“ Someone else: yes, I also don’t have $5,000 :)”

[@matthewwilson7425]

When you said, having J8 here is better than AA, how is that true? Any pair QQ KK AA is a better hand than J8 in this scenario. J8 had been counterfeit by the paired 5 on the river. Also, are you allowed to use the words “nut blocker” when the nuts is 55 and you don’t block that?

[@nobbynobbynoob]

Holding J8 partially blocks monsters JJ and 88 even though it is not technically an absolute nut blocker.

[@parmanduke]

Great bluff. I would've folded too

[@tylermokarry9731]

It's crazy cuz hero shouldn't have too much 5X due to the Flop sizing by V and hero can't have overpairs here either, so V really only loses to 67 for the most part, you gotta at least think about it, making snap decisions on the river is rarely a good thing, just and extra 15-20 seconds of thinking about it could be the difference between winning and losing

[@MrBleedk]

COuld for sure be a bluff.. 9t and 79

[@pokerqAK47]

He’s lucky his opponent doesn’t like to take his time and think through every street and that’s why this bluff worked

[@modestomouso1234]

Doesn’t seem like *you* are actually thinking through every street here. Put yourself in RFIs shoes. You flop top 2, bet flop large into multiple opps, only BB calls. Bottom card pairs. X/x. River is basically a blank, BB leads for 1/3 pot, you raise 3x bc what can BB really have here? And then you get 3bet otr. Keep in mind this is a rec player who doesn’t really realize hero is repping a boat + which we block. Your average live player is going to fold this hand a lot. online 100nl +, this outcome is probably very different.

[@davidsasse40]

He put you on a 5 for sure.

[@davidsasse40]

I try to take 10 seconds always at least just so I don't snap anything.

[@kevincloonan9787]

why would anyone raise with J8 ?

[@RaulGroom]

Right? Extremely weird line to take with J8. Oodles of draws to get value from on the turn, should just barrel.

[@iambadatpickingusernames6669]

Honestly, I'd probably just bluff catch given the price and blocking properties of my hand.

[@mariocardoso291]

Fold 2 pair on the river does not happen 🎉

[@jake_villanueva]

Guy talks a lot as a commentator but I’ve yet to be impressed by him at the table. This was an interesting hand. Hope to see more play like this.

[@Karnageszn]

Fr dude is a bum

[@johnrobs7556]

500 into 1400 a blocker bet with that hand ??? Idk about that bad bet I think check and call 6-700

[@jasonvinson5407]

Low stakes you’re losing your stack 9/10 here

[@harrycardillo8671]

This fails like 90% of the time and the only time it works is when you're playing some donkey who won't call down with top two.

[@DoubleBassX2]

If you're turning bluffcatchers into bluffs your checking range will be absolutely exploitable.

[@SerErryk]

Not if you use it sparingly and against weak opponents.

[@marcgoone]

omg first

[@supremeleaderarmy9164]

Please leave your name and address so we can send u your Trophy

[@raverpoker]

"bluffing is the new thin value betting" im going to get that on a t-shirt. nice hand dude

[@chanoone7812]

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