"This is why I call you spineless..." - Destiny Debates SerfsTV

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Destiny

Destiny

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"What you have just said is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard..."
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Date streamed: 10/25/2019
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@trescohen8232
@trescohen8232 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny tried to do a spine fatality and realized his opponent didnt have one
@AnEnemyAnemone1
@AnEnemyAnemone1 5 жыл бұрын
In this debate
@trescohen8232
@trescohen8232 5 жыл бұрын
@@AnEnemyAnemone1 this wasnt a debate it was a massacre
@jaythan4534
@jaythan4534 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta go for the head next time but sadly there's no brain inside as well. No balls to shatter as well. Last thing to do is just turn them to dust.
@Dieze
@Dieze 5 жыл бұрын
in this debate
@dias8726
@dias8726 5 жыл бұрын
wowman542 do you even play mortal Kombat normie
@AntoineVello
@AntoineVello 5 жыл бұрын
SerfsTV literally just tried to kafkatrap Destiny holy shit. "Maybe they don't like you because you aren't nice," Destiny defends this point because Serfs probably doesn't know him IRL that well or at all. "Nice people don't usually have to prove they are nice," Like that is a literal "Damned if you do, damned if you don't."
@ReddoFreddo
@ReddoFreddo 5 жыл бұрын
It's okay, just say Destiny used sneaky debate tactics to win the argument and move on.
@alexanderiskandar8379
@alexanderiskandar8379 5 жыл бұрын
@@ReddoFreddo And that he talks fast, so he must be wrong.
@ReddoFreddo
@ReddoFreddo 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderiskandar8379 Well he *is* the Ben Shapiro of the left after all
@BubblegumCrash332
@BubblegumCrash332 5 жыл бұрын
He sat idle when his friend threatened destiny and made some weird racial attacks. Then he turns around and tells Destiny why are we not talking about the facts. BTW that dude threatened Destiny in the beginning of the Stream
@xDDufiosy
@xDDufiosy 5 жыл бұрын
ReddoFreddo logical equivalencies are sneaky debate tactics to these morons
@sadpotato4931
@sadpotato4931 5 жыл бұрын
Mike from PA doxxed Mike from PA in this debate.
@louiscyfear878
@louiscyfear878 5 жыл бұрын
He better watch out. Mike is a lawyer...
@lukaszmarzec1226
@lukaszmarzec1226 5 жыл бұрын
@@louiscyfear878 you just doxxed an innocent man. Hope you're proud of yourself.
@Archsinister
@Archsinister 5 жыл бұрын
Lukasz Marzec Loool
@veganstoiclinuxwarriormonk8187
@veganstoiclinuxwarriormonk8187 5 жыл бұрын
remember when destiny "doxxed" tonkasaw? All this rhymes so much with far-right debates...
@rebellsprout5754
@rebellsprout5754 5 жыл бұрын
you destiny stans are amazing. if you have to look up his info to confirm things then this was doxing. if the info wasn't available public through mike and you went out of the way and released it is still doxing. there is no excuse is if it is easy or difficult. just because it is easy to steal someone's identity doesn't make it not identity theft. just because someone is unconscious during a rape doesn't make you less of a rapist. that is just victim blaming and a weak excuse.
@theronerdithas2944
@theronerdithas2944 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny's editor got scared and unloaded 4 videos in 24 hours in this debate.
@HiimFieldy
@HiimFieldy 5 жыл бұрын
Theron Erdithas he has been slipping I say fire him destiny, hire me I’ll quit my shitty job and upload on time
@dinothunder629
@dinothunder629 5 жыл бұрын
damn that debate was long
@BlakeZeb
@BlakeZeb 5 жыл бұрын
F RNG Idk if the current editor is the same guy, but I remember awhile back he hired an editor that had a KZbin channel doing “Last night in Destiny” that was like a highlights of the stream upload. He quit doing it when he got hired by destiny. So, there’s a chance! Maybe make some edits and send them to destiny or something; see what he says
@vorpfriendly7574
@vorpfriendly7574 5 жыл бұрын
Took long enough... us youtubers have been flying upside down and blind through this arc.
@bargaingoldandsilver
@bargaingoldandsilver 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny did a phenomenal job defending himself . This guy just doesn’t want to understand
@snowballeffect7812
@snowballeffect7812 5 жыл бұрын
It's difficult to admit when you're wrong. His friendship with Kormantine is making him act in a biased way. Very disappointing.
@jeremias-serus
@jeremias-serus 5 жыл бұрын
The good guy wins again
@TheFreepie
@TheFreepie 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny wrote a giant essay personally attacking everyone who had a problem with his position, he is a vindictive weirdo. Like can you really imagine spending hours gathering dirt on all the people who called you out so you can publish a giant wall of text to save face? "Destiny is only interested in finding good thought processes and correct conclusions" the fans say, unless he is drama farming then it is about destroying the other person.
@snowballeffect7812
@snowballeffect7812 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheFreepie I would agree with you that it was very emotionally loaded, but all the "dirt" supported his claims that people had double-standards and that he was being unfairly targeted by certain people for various reasons, namely their dislike of his criticism of tankies and socialist ideas that he feels aren't supported by evidence. To be honest, the only problem I had was with his attack on Trihex. That seemed way over the top and lacking empathy.
@jeremias-serus
@jeremias-serus 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheFreepie He was attacking people with evidence and reasoning as to why they're either shit people (i.e. BadBunny, Kormantine, TheSerfs, etc) or acting illogically (Trihex), after THEY attacked or went against him.
@mr649001
@mr649001 5 жыл бұрын
Serfs really making this big of a deal about how Destiny doxed Mike from PA the lawyer who ran for public office. Then when destiny starts discussing his own experience with the shit that happened as a result of the drama that serfs helped create, his literal unironic response is "you're a big boy you can handle it". To threats of physical irl confrontation. Bruh.
@anteaterking6728
@anteaterking6728 5 жыл бұрын
I actually got pissed off when he said that. Like, either he's so braindead that he doesn't understand the irony of what he just said, or he's so brainwashed by the lefty cult that he'll change his entire worls view and principality on a dime if it means he can score dunk points on Destiny. It's honestly fucking disgusting...
@Prisoner36
@Prisoner36 5 жыл бұрын
The "PA" in Mike from PA means "Paralegal Andy"
@TobyClark917
@TobyClark917 5 жыл бұрын
Prisoner36 micromichael no bar exam
@jeremias-serus
@jeremias-serus 5 жыл бұрын
KEKW
@Unknown-us3ii
@Unknown-us3ii 6 ай бұрын
4 years late, but PA still means Pennsylvania as well
@Inuhater
@Inuhater 5 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that Lance would try to imply Destiny was doxxing Mike from PA. Just lost a ton of respect for him after this. Watching it happen live was brutal.
@libertariansasquatch
@libertariansasquatch 3 жыл бұрын
Honest question, How did you have any respect for the serfs in the first place.
@SexPanther42069
@SexPanther42069 3 жыл бұрын
@@libertariansasquatch He appears to be able to sit upright in a chair despite having no spine. That's respectable for the effort alone.
@kingcosmuder8078
@kingcosmuder8078 3 жыл бұрын
@@libertariansasquatch because hes a leftist
@pinnacull
@pinnacull 3 жыл бұрын
@@SexPanther42069 Based
@johns1625
@johns1625 2 жыл бұрын
You had respect for Serfs before this? Guy is the most clear literal grifter in the whole debate be bro sphere. Guy hasn't constructed a single belief himself, he just blows lefties
@ProperlyGaming
@ProperlyGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao "to these people I'm Hitler. I'm Hitler who died went to hell then went on a quest to fuse my soul with Satan and then came back to life to stream on twitch to these people"
@ElDrHouse2010
@ElDrHouse2010 5 жыл бұрын
"Damn dude, you literally made Adolf Hitler get off his dick throne in the midst of the flames of hell, walk into the bathroom, and sob quietly in the corner of a shower. He held a bottle of cheap whiskey in his shaking hand, no longer secure in his position as world's least likable human being." - Tails Gets Trolled
@casualboicas7610
@casualboicas7610 5 жыл бұрын
The level of dishonesty, mental gymnastics, bad faith from Hasan, Serfs, Coffin etc is really starting to look like a tragic parody.
@burstingturtle
@burstingturtle 5 жыл бұрын
It makes being a center leftist feel good.
@onlyheretosin666
@onlyheretosin666 4 жыл бұрын
@@burstingturtle "Center leftist" is most definitely not a thing wtf. 😂
@davidm9026
@davidm9026 3 жыл бұрын
SimplyShelby Why the hell not? Why can’t it just be a term to mean someone who is center left
@apatheticviewer234
@apatheticviewer234 3 жыл бұрын
@@onlyheretosin666 I consider myself in-between Social Democrat and Democrat Socialist. I'd consider myself center left
@lil_pan46
@lil_pan46 3 жыл бұрын
@@onlyheretosin666 nice name bro
@axlglenn2156
@axlglenn2156 5 жыл бұрын
Once I thought the lefty arc was a tragedy, but now I realize it's a comedy.
@HiimFieldy
@HiimFieldy 5 жыл бұрын
F Glenn it’s a cult classic already
@commentator6072
@commentator6072 5 жыл бұрын
Bonus meme
@ReddoFreddo
@ReddoFreddo 5 жыл бұрын
I remember being sad Hasan and Steven broke up LULW I remember thinking, Destiny is wrong on socialism, I don't know exactly why, but I don't have time for that, Michael Brooks will teach him or some other lefty, he'll figure it out because he's rational and the rational belief leads you to socialism. Then their debate happened and I saw Michael gish gallop Andy the entire conversation and his fanboys actually defend him for that. I found out recently Michael believes in God by the way, and makes fun of people who call that irrational, just sayin. I just realized I went through the same experience as that alt-right kid that got pulled out of it by Destiny's debate with Lauren Southern except for me I got pulled out of the left after I realized they're all such bad faith actors. I'm still a socialist, or a social democrat who believes we need more workplace democracy, like David Pakman, but it's crystal clear how bad faith and delusional much of the Internet left is.
@ProperlyGaming
@ProperlyGaming 5 жыл бұрын
@@ReddoFreddo there's certain things I disagree with him on, but I'm for sure with him on going full socialist is a no bueno maneuver.
@Sourusophyexe
@Sourusophyexe 5 жыл бұрын
@@ReddoFreddo you will reform your ways to capitalism soon, good luck
@bonemo7783
@bonemo7783 5 жыл бұрын
This is some real Yakubian energy.
@BDKoala
@BDKoala 5 жыл бұрын
..in this debate
@samc6923
@samc6923 5 жыл бұрын
Not very gangster left of them
@veespa_
@veespa_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@samc6923 you gotta use the soft A there bro, not the hard R.. “gangsta” not “gangster• 😏😈
@BPOOP1000
@BPOOP1000 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny from LA doxxed himself on this debate.
@HiimFieldy
@HiimFieldy 5 жыл бұрын
R M that’s a good one well played
@jeremias-serus
@jeremias-serus 5 жыл бұрын
Steven from CA
@jakeram4439
@jakeram4439 5 жыл бұрын
Okay editors you are forgiven.
@yadv
@yadv 4 жыл бұрын
First reply after 500 likes 6 months ago
@Imulletman12
@Imulletman12 4 жыл бұрын
YadV Want a medal?
@yadv
@yadv 4 жыл бұрын
I would say yes but considering you have no profile picture and have 20 subs any medal that you could possibly offer me would be literally worthless.
@Imulletman12
@Imulletman12 4 жыл бұрын
YadV You’re ruthless. I like it.
@yadv
@yadv 4 жыл бұрын
:D
@Hetsfesta
@Hetsfesta 4 жыл бұрын
I tried googling for "Mike Pennsyl", then it outfilled into "mike pennsylvania fake lawyer"... Lol.
@rambo3rd471
@rambo3rd471 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO I love how at the end, the Serfs was so broken knowing he just got called out for gaslighting Destiny, that when Destiny called him spineless, he couldn't even disagree.
@Secret96Magic
@Secret96Magic 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny doxed a public figure in this debate.
@YemYum
@YemYum 5 жыл бұрын
to this day, doctors still couldnt find serfs spine. We still dont know how he is able to function as a human with no spine.
@YemYum
@YemYum 5 жыл бұрын
Toby Smith funnies joke I’ve ever heard all year
@griggerykimothy4865
@griggerykimothy4865 3 жыл бұрын
A series of coping mechanisms
@Shin_Akumi
@Shin_Akumi 2 жыл бұрын
@@YemYum have u ever seen him outside of a chair lol? Its not proven he functions as a human haha
@wisetrollman
@wisetrollman 5 жыл бұрын
I lost a tremendous amount of respect for the Serfs. Bad faith 101
@transcribeded
@transcribeded Жыл бұрын
Why did you respect this pussy in the first place.
@MrShagification
@MrShagification 5 жыл бұрын
I think seeing so many disgusting, disingenuous people having at least relative success is taking a toll on my mental health.
@menkaragamble8175
@menkaragamble8175 5 жыл бұрын
People don't want truth they want validation and entertainment. In a platform that is about catering to an audience (twitch) being disgusting and disingenuous is how you make it.
@rpemulis
@rpemulis 5 жыл бұрын
Probably shouldn't let an entertainment platform have an effect on your mental health. For as interesting as debate twitch is, the fact that streamers rely on their standing amongst the community and their own viewers for money is always going to encourage disingenuous acts.
@menkaragamble8175
@menkaragamble8175 5 жыл бұрын
@jshowa o Except that he has disavowed his old behavior of being an edgy memelord , he constantly goes back and reviews his behaviors in VODs when ever his opponents try and call him out for things like "talking to much" and "Taking words out of context", and constantly makes arguments from another person's perspective to try and understand them better. He may not be perfect, but lumping him in with people that constantly lie and backpeddle is a typical "both sides" non-argument.
@schr4nz
@schr4nz 5 жыл бұрын
How do you think they get there? They are narcissists doing it for attention, Destiny has narcissistic qualities but he's also principled and cares more about the truth than he does about grandstanding, so groupthink narcissists use that against him
@MrShagification
@MrShagification 5 жыл бұрын
@@rpemulis I understand why they do it. I was half joking, I'm not actually going to get fucked up from seeing it, it's just mildly depressing to see people act like this.
@Iamcamper31
@Iamcamper31 5 жыл бұрын
“Need me to hold your hand and defend you, your a big boy Destiny” *Comes into Destiny stream to accuse Destiny of Doxxing Mike and Smearing Kormantine
@Iamcamper31
@Iamcamper31 5 жыл бұрын
Doctor Dankeston the soft bigotry of the left strikes again!
@brandonden795
@brandonden795 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Destiny didn't catch that
@Iamcamper31
@Iamcamper31 5 жыл бұрын
4444 1414 Usually when you debate someone sometimes shit slips by and you don’t realize it in the moment lol
@brandonden795
@brandonden795 5 жыл бұрын
@@Iamcamper31 I know but it was a slower conversation and he usually picks uo that stuff well
@Iamcamper31
@Iamcamper31 5 жыл бұрын
4444 1414 probably cause he was focused on another line of attack so he let it slip past
@Vildenftw
@Vildenftw 5 жыл бұрын
How on earth can Destiny keep his cool while talking to these types of people? I am amazed.
@satanicoldlady8060
@satanicoldlady8060 5 жыл бұрын
Lol "wed have to ask a lawyer" Chat: "DONT ASK MIKE"
@ViteloElyos
@ViteloElyos 5 жыл бұрын
basicially, serfs is spineless, destiny is right, nothing changed meanwhile and no, it's not doxxing
@Sourusophyexe
@Sourusophyexe 5 жыл бұрын
stop being so spineless dude
@jeremias-serus
@jeremias-serus 5 жыл бұрын
stop being so spineless dude
@vicariouschism86
@vicariouschism86 4 жыл бұрын
Stop being so dude spineless
@seanmatthewking
@seanmatthewking 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like it’s partial doxing. Destiny’s defense was pretty bad too. He thinks there’s something wrong with warning the guy privately that he knows who he is and that he’ll tell people if the guy doesn’t stop lying about being a lawyer. He says the threatening to dox him. So wait, why is it a dox if he threatens it, but not when he actually does it? And how is threatening to dox someone worse than actually doing? All doxing is not the same. This dude’s identity apparently wasn’t well-hidden. Also, some people can face serious threats when they’re doxed-when that’s the case, doxing is a much more serious matter. I don’t know where the person Destiny “doxed” fits into that description because I don’t know anything about him. This whole conversation was pretty annoying.
@vicariouschism86
@vicariouschism86 4 жыл бұрын
@@seanmatthewking you can't dox a public figure whose information is already out there.
@BoredErica
@BoredErica 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just wow. It's one thing for Destiny to say all these people are spineless and dishonest actors, but it's another to see them behave like this on video.
@AnnoyingQuentin
@AnnoyingQuentin 5 жыл бұрын
Sucks to see the Serfs being bad faith actors.
@HiimFieldy
@HiimFieldy 5 жыл бұрын
Quentin Lensink what do you expect?
@AnnoyingQuentin
@AnnoyingQuentin 5 жыл бұрын
@@HiimFieldy considering people on the left are more principled compared to centrists and right wingers I thought they would be principled. Turns out they aren't.
@HiimFieldy
@HiimFieldy 5 жыл бұрын
Quentin Lensink don’t matter what sides what on each side their is real ones and fake ones serfs are fake ones
@shadowmasterp
@shadowmasterp 5 жыл бұрын
@@AnnoyingQuentin People are people. The right thinks they are more principled the left thinks the same. I think that anyone who labels themselves as anything get a blind spot for that thing.
@WiscoMTB37
@WiscoMTB37 5 жыл бұрын
@@AnnoyingQuentin 🤣 people in general will take the path of least resistance. If throwing your friends under the bus also means you wont get targeted, people will take it. Dont think people are trustworthy just because they are on your side politically
@beastmodecowboy209
@beastmodecowboy209 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny’s Yakubian Energy was on full display in this debate
@BDKoala
@BDKoala 5 жыл бұрын
These memes are legendary
@samsarjeant8863
@samsarjeant8863 5 жыл бұрын
It feels like he's at the edge of realizing that he's wrong and he keeps turning away and lying down
@necrofessor666
@necrofessor666 5 жыл бұрын
I like this part of the arc, destiny has been attacked by all the villains of the show and now hes hunting them down 1 by 1.
@neomcdoom
@neomcdoom 5 жыл бұрын
Necrotiks This arc meme is cringe. I’m a big boy so I get to say that.
@camronbitzer3159
@camronbitzer3159 5 жыл бұрын
Please tell me I'm misunderstanding what's going on here. Is The Serfs defending a guy who lied about credentials to win a debate? And saying the guy who called him out (destiny) is in the wrong? Not the guy lying??! I like The Serfs, this is whack on their part
@at5203
@at5203 5 жыл бұрын
Not only that, Lance is on top of that acusing destiny of "doxxing" a guy that has his private information all over his twitter and twitch. It almost sounds like a joke. I lost a lot of respect for him.
@camronbitzer3159
@camronbitzer3159 5 жыл бұрын
@@at5203 yeah that was just so... Bizarre? I always found Lance to be pretty objective so this kind of catches me off guard how idiotic his side of this argument is. You don't have your stuff linked and @ted all your profiles and get to say someone doxxed you. Asinine.
@at5203
@at5203 5 жыл бұрын
@@camronbitzer3159 ​ The defense of Kormantine was pretty terrible too. "but the alleged abuser said he was the one being abused", and right after that "I always believe the acuser first and foremost". It's like he undertands the arguments in abstract but he just can't actually see what he is doing and throws logic out the window when it comes to his friends.
@camronbitzer3159
@camronbitzer3159 5 жыл бұрын
@@at5203 really exposed the double standards behind what we think is "acceptable" and what we are willing to accept.
@temporarilyembarrassedgodd9656
@temporarilyembarrassedgodd9656 5 жыл бұрын
Camron Bitzer when did mike lie about credentials?
@42halock
@42halock 5 жыл бұрын
45:15-45:45 Probably one of the most savage things I've seen said from one streamer to another
@luciifero333
@luciifero333 5 жыл бұрын
i fucking loved it
@ReddoFreddo
@ReddoFreddo 5 жыл бұрын
When you know you're right on something and you know the other person knows he's wrong.
@kushan_tk
@kushan_tk 5 жыл бұрын
If I knew I was right, I would show no mercy. My politics are shit so I don't even try
@oldwestcreative83
@oldwestcreative83 4 жыл бұрын
Lol and his response “Sure thing man” only served to confirm the attack, that he was a spineless coward.
@ishe570
@ishe570 5 жыл бұрын
10:55 is the IRL version of Patrick Star/Man Ray wallet meme
@hubabuba2damax
@hubabuba2damax 4 жыл бұрын
Ismael Serrano Holy shit you’re right it’s the wallet meme 1:1 perfectly I’m dying
@maxmustermann9058
@maxmustermann9058 5 жыл бұрын
Vaush to Lance: "You are one of the few Breadtubers I still respect." Destiny: "Hold my Soylent."
@brandonden795
@brandonden795 5 жыл бұрын
I love how interacting with Destiny is basically a "Live by the sword, die by the sword" enviroment. Just pulling everyone into a giant tornado.
@JoshuaFernandez11
@JoshuaFernandez11 5 жыл бұрын
This just in: "Doxxing yourself is NOT CLEVER"
@JordanOsmond16
@JordanOsmond16 3 жыл бұрын
There is no way that this man is DEFENDING SOMEONE to this extent, not on their behalf, but because they think it’s “just fucked up”, and then turn around and say, “you’re not a baby, what do you want me to hold your hand” when Destiny is listing 10x worse shit that happens to him. Holy fuck this guy… lol
@zeaferjones1404
@zeaferjones1404 Жыл бұрын
I wished Destiny would have asked him why he holds Mike's hand?
@MMAGamblingTips
@MMAGamblingTips 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny just buried Sir Lancelot The Spineless of the Serfs in Peter’s Coffin (in this debate)
@griggerykimothy4865
@griggerykimothy4865 5 жыл бұрын
in this debate
@MMAGamblingTips
@MMAGamblingTips 5 жыл бұрын
griggery kimothy Absolutely
@cf6713
@cf6713 5 жыл бұрын
Tim Pool had more integrity even after he thought the recording was off
@jokersdemise
@jokersdemise 5 жыл бұрын
Source?
@cf6713
@cf6713 5 жыл бұрын
End of JRE podcast with Jack Dorsey, Vijay, and Pool
@jokersdemise
@jokersdemise 5 жыл бұрын
@@cf6713 bless you, child
@cf6713
@cf6713 5 жыл бұрын
Kurt Stuckemeyer ?
@cf6713
@cf6713 5 жыл бұрын
Kurt Stuckemeyer I gotta know man
@bennahum5469
@bennahum5469 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny uploaded this debate in this debate
@maxmustermann9058
@maxmustermann9058 5 жыл бұрын
Sir, stop gish galloping me with different videos Mr. Editor
@MrJeo29
@MrJeo29 5 жыл бұрын
Bad faith editor
@Sourusophyexe
@Sourusophyexe 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrJeo29 yeah, the editor is pretty spineless edit: Actually he is one of the most spineless people I've encountered
@VonniXfiles
@VonniXfiles 4 жыл бұрын
SerfsTV lost all the respect I never had for him in this
@Str8Rippin93
@Str8Rippin93 7 ай бұрын
He is a walking living breathing virtue signal
@Kloutkulture
@Kloutkulture 5 жыл бұрын
"can you admit to me that you are literally the stupidest person on the planet to wanna conceal your identity yet name your handle Mike from PA" holy shit 💀
@cf6713
@cf6713 5 жыл бұрын
The false sympathetic voice is just the icing. Notice how it fades, along with his “integrity”
@cf6713
@cf6713 5 жыл бұрын
Zgembo121 also he hides his power level.
@FreckleFoxShow
@FreckleFoxShow 5 жыл бұрын
I totally get Destiny's difficulty in defending himself. I'm chill, but when someone is being intensely difficult and unaware of it, I'll get frustrated. Then you're judged for being more aggressive in your defense. Before that point I walk away. Trying to convince people they are wrong by simply explaining it to them is a waste of time. You have to show them how they are right first in their current perspective and then lead them to the pieces they are missing. Figure out who has the larger view, as sometimes it'll be you and sometimes it's who you are talking to. Or a little bit of both. However, difficult or bad faith people will resist at every point. Also sometimes it's just cool to let it go if the gulf between perspectives are too wide.
@VoltaGhost
@VoltaGhost 3 жыл бұрын
Going back and watching old destiny debates because I'm kind of new to his content and one thing is very clear...people will argue anything simply because they don't like him no matter how dumb their claim is.
@RLYtoxic
@RLYtoxic 5 жыл бұрын
As I understand it. Doxxing is taking information that is kept private and bringing it to public knowledge. Not taking public knowledge and stating it publicly.
@deebee6658
@deebee6658 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny hurt someone's humanity in this debat
@stereoraptor6940
@stereoraptor6940 5 жыл бұрын
"dis trihex DIS YA BRO DIS SUPPOSED TO BE YA HOMIE" - cash money cole of the gangster left
@nuanceblacksywin4868
@nuanceblacksywin4868 5 жыл бұрын
This has to be the least doxed doxed person ever! It's as if Clark Kent was wearing a name badge saying "Superman", and then complain about being doxed because people "weren't supposed to read it out loud".
@reubenmcmurray4377
@reubenmcmurray4377 5 жыл бұрын
Seems disingenuous. I don’t think he’s really trying to hide his identity. I think it was just a convenient victim crutch.
@BubblegumCrash332
@BubblegumCrash332 5 жыл бұрын
Beware when Destiny starts lighting up those keys cuz your about to eat your words
@NBA_Z0
@NBA_Z0 5 жыл бұрын
Otha Bojangles it’s hilarious bro
@pengwin_
@pengwin_ 5 жыл бұрын
For real. They shit thier pants at "w-w-w-w-wait, let open a note pad here....ok, you said-"
@jeremias-serus
@jeremias-serus 5 жыл бұрын
Legend has it your life flashes before your eyes one image at a time for each key destiny clicks
@MMAGamblingTips
@MMAGamblingTips 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny has shown that if you stand by the courage of your convictions you don’t have to sellout to the popular kids to maintain relevancy. Swimming in the opposite direction than all the other fish doesn’t mean you’re heading the wrong direction. Only dead fish go with the flow. If you’re right, the people will ultimately come around, and if you reek of bullshit the people are gonna smell it.
@bjarnetaverniers26
@bjarnetaverniers26 5 жыл бұрын
Im losing the argument, let's nitpick destiny's words real quick for the only insignificant win i can take.
@godwings101
@godwings101 5 жыл бұрын
As a die hard lefty it's really sad to see so much of left tube being so weaselly...
@wren4077
@wren4077 4 жыл бұрын
Its really just the online personalities that do this
@schmeat7609
@schmeat7609 4 жыл бұрын
It's not only the left. Most political commentary channels will flip on a dime when it's advantageous
@grayson0916
@grayson0916 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it seems to me that the lefties that are like this are the ones who have their basis in moral reasons rather than the economic reasons someone should be socialist/capitalist. To me, the ones who have a more firm economic understanding don’t seem to be disingenuous very often.
@Shin_Akumi
@Shin_Akumi 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is people become like cement after a certain age, they cant change opinions or even have an introspective view of their own politics. They become ingrained, a political soldier. Can't compromise or see reason. Both parties in usa do this. Being centre left or centre right is seen as evil by the extremists lol *"if you are a socialist in your teens you have a heart, if you are a conservative as an adult you have a brain"* -someone who understands the world -
@OlPalJoe
@OlPalJoe 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah destiny is right here. You cannot be someone running for public office and use your credentials for a debate and still have remain anonymous.
@OlPalJoe
@OlPalJoe 5 жыл бұрын
Like Image if Ben Burgis called himself Ben from *insert Canadian province here*, the philosophy professor. You can't do that. Leaning on your public credentials and claiming that your shit was private.
@TheRickity
@TheRickity 5 жыл бұрын
AMAZN
@TheCapn23
@TheCapn23 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention he links his personal information (including his full name) on his social media accounts.
@OlPalJoe
@OlPalJoe 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheCapn23 yeah I like the serfs but they're being very disingenuous here
@Sandybowls_9001
@Sandybowls_9001 5 жыл бұрын
God dammit I'm a nice person. -Destiny 2019
@veespa_
@veespa_ 4 жыл бұрын
16:08 “he had been _acquitted_ of those charges” (emphasis added) - if you plead guilty & to one charge & the other charges are dropped, that *does not mean the other charges were acquitted.* For a charge to be acquitted is for said charge to be absolved by a jury (or judge, in the case of a bench trial), which he clearly was not. This term is very important & it framed his character in an entirely different light to use this term... I am a paralegal, I’m not someone with a law degree (or any college, for that matter), so it’s not like this is a highly technical call out here. How ridiculous.
@adrijanvuckovic1004
@adrijanvuckovic1004 3 жыл бұрын
this convo is unbelievable the serfs guy is the most transparently dishonest guy to talk to destiny. just incredible
@snake_plant6719
@snake_plant6719 5 жыл бұрын
Whats goin on with the editors?
@Danger418
@Danger418 5 жыл бұрын
@Nerevarine What was happening?
@broquestwarsneeder7617
@broquestwarsneeder7617 5 жыл бұрын
@@Danger418 destiny got exposed for using the hard-R n-word in private in jokes n shiet, trihex got pissed, they ended the podcast, hasanabi had some weird take on it which destiny enjoys shitting on, massive poofest on reddit etc.
@klo4880
@klo4880 5 жыл бұрын
@@broquestwarsneeder7617 i think 'exposed' is wrong. Destiny has been very public about what he thinks about the n-word, since at least like 2 years back.
@broquestwarsneeder7617
@broquestwarsneeder7617 5 жыл бұрын
@@klo4880 well, his position was exposed to those not in the know then i guess
@FlipsMG
@FlipsMG 5 жыл бұрын
@@broquestwarsneeder7617 Many of them did know and never had a problem with it before. They just want to jump on the bandwagon and virtue signal.
@TubularToob
@TubularToob 5 жыл бұрын
kill shot at the end, Jesus Christ lmao
@hubabuba2damax
@hubabuba2damax 4 жыл бұрын
Poor Communication Completely deserved
@legionarysteve8961
@legionarysteve8961 5 жыл бұрын
I think Destiny has a very introspective way of looking at reality, and it's misunderstood by a mostly extroverted world. He believes only someone with a sound argument is able to prove him wrong, while his opponent thinks he is just arguing to argue.
@Dontremember92
@Dontremember92 5 жыл бұрын
I love when he just bodies people lol
@amit212543
@amit212543 5 жыл бұрын
If mike from pa linked his real name to his twitch account then thats not doxing.
@NBA_Z0
@NBA_Z0 5 жыл бұрын
amit212543 to serfs it somehow is 😂
@WhatTheFrogDoing
@WhatTheFrogDoing 5 жыл бұрын
The information being publicly available versus being served to destiny's audience directly is more the issue here if that's not obvious.
@ReddoFreddo
@ReddoFreddo 5 жыл бұрын
@@WhatTheFrogDoing When you're trying to proof a person who shows his full name online and has run for public office is lying about his credentials with a publicly available news article, that's not doxxing, Mike from PA called it doxxing because he doesn't have shit to say so he resorts to bullshit and ideologues like you and this serfs guy defend him for this despite it being crystal clear how dishonest it is. Why do you do that? You'd have to ask yourself because I have no clue. Do you not have any principals?
@Narcissistic_Penguin
@Narcissistic_Penguin 5 жыл бұрын
It's like Destiny set off a bomb during a Destiny support meeting and the explosion was just big enough to injure them so he could go round individually to execute them personally (in a video game) The Serfs [x] Hassan [x] Alebrelle [x] Bad Bunny [ ] Mick From PA [ ] Kormantine [ ] Cole [ ]
@ElDrHouse2010
@ElDrHouse2010 5 жыл бұрын
the "leftists" (liberals) in twitch have never watched Destiny's old videos. His opinions are consistent.
@TheRumpelstinskin
@TheRumpelstinskin 5 жыл бұрын
Actually his opinions changed radically after he began to debate people on the left.
@misterscorpius1446
@misterscorpius1446 5 жыл бұрын
D:"HE DOXXED HIMSELF" STV: "...The /other/ thing..." Oh my god
@FruityHuevos
@FruityHuevos 5 жыл бұрын
This dude organized an ambush and is now trying to be a weasel
@AppleBaron
@AppleBaron 5 жыл бұрын
A spider, that lives in a corner of my bathroom, has more spine than this dude, holy fuck.
@spaceghosttoast
@spaceghosttoast 5 жыл бұрын
This leftist arc is just kinda destroying the image I had of all these people. Destiny got me to become more left leaning, so much so I moved further left then he is, but now im reconsidering with this arc. I'm losing more and more respect for these people I watched that changed me.
@Andrearuch97
@Andrearuch97 5 жыл бұрын
FUCK OFF THENYOU CENTRIST PIECE OF SHIT
@justingutierrez233
@justingutierrez233 5 жыл бұрын
Sort of the same. I'm very happy being a aoc dem. Fuck these "socialists" if they are going to be bad faith assholes. I doubt I will move further left ever.
@jonasthiel2282
@jonasthiel2282 5 жыл бұрын
Not here to judge or anything. I was disappointed at some of the stuff I saw over the last few months as well. But the behavior of individual people probably shouldn't influence your political beliefs, right?
@axlglenn2156
@axlglenn2156 5 жыл бұрын
@UCHNagXAZgvvlWOt3NAorJEQ why are you so mad?
@justingutierrez233
@justingutierrez233 5 жыл бұрын
@@jonasthiel2282 I'm like half serious my dude lol its a meme.. I'm pretty rock steady in my political beliefs and have been for years. It's not a big deal. Lol I just mean I don't consider these people comrades in the least.
@jondoh9414
@jondoh9414 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny was reasonable in this debate and responsibly explained himself here.
@TheRumpelstinskin
@TheRumpelstinskin 5 жыл бұрын
I disagree.
@jondoh9414
@jondoh9414 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheRumpelstinskin Well, except for being an extreme dickhead at the end, he generally wasn't an asshole that would take an extreme caricature of what the other person is saying like he's done in the past.
@kaihattwich775
@kaihattwich775 3 жыл бұрын
Lance is literally doing everything to preserve his bias.
@MultiRomyl
@MultiRomyl 5 жыл бұрын
The Serfs lost whatever spine he had left in this debate.
@brandonden795
@brandonden795 5 жыл бұрын
Fatality
@andreaskarlsson5251
@andreaskarlsson5251 2 жыл бұрын
"hi I'm Mike but you cant use my name cause thats doxxing me." xD
@RockMonster1000
@RockMonster1000 5 жыл бұрын
damn lance he got you there on the mike from pa lol
@happysud
@happysud 3 жыл бұрын
He we are a year later, and I must report that Lance still has not found a spine.
@unknown-vo3di
@unknown-vo3di 5 жыл бұрын
this whole drama destiny is right the rest are a bunch of lying clowns
@ImTheMexicanKing
@ImTheMexicanKing 4 жыл бұрын
I broke down laughing at 29:34, when I looked at chat and saw what "NaturalBornKilla" posted in chat.
@DethGuy95
@DethGuy95 5 жыл бұрын
Hey editors, I...pardon you. 🌝
@mvp9066
@mvp9066 5 жыл бұрын
For now
@mars8916
@mars8916 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny, I am pretty new to your channel, I don't use twitch, I don't know you as a gamer, only as a debater here on You Tube. I have been present for all the debates that have led up to this situation. I just want you to know that you are not Crazy! You are fighting the good fight. I think the characterization that you are somehow "out of touch with social cues", or that you are "just trying to win" is totally wrong, and unfair. Keep up the good work.
@MarceloAbans
@MarceloAbans 5 жыл бұрын
@ 20:04 The moment he realized he’s been bamboozled and is too deep to pull out now. It is not doxxing if you have publicly available information. Yes it is his right to want anonymity, however, that is contingent that he outwardly professing said facts. He has tweets, makes references to himself, etc. He’d fail a GDPR course in keeping information private. Also the Kormantine charges being dropped, is NOT the same as being acquitted.
@ReddoFreddo
@ReddoFreddo 5 жыл бұрын
I joined a Destiny support group because of his horrible pizza-take and In 'n Out denialism but after seeing him rationally and fairly stand up for himself these last few weeks I forgive him for that and have regained a lot of respect for him.
@BardChords
@BardChords 5 жыл бұрын
I looked up Mike From PA's twitter account and there's a picture of him, and he has a picture of himself as the avatar. It doesn't look like he's attempting to hide his identity at all. This is a really frustrating argument as well, because it assumes that people who post publicly online and show their face aren't submitting themselves to be public figures. Also, as a side note, he has a quote from FDR about being kind and not being cruel, and then most of his posts are direct personal attacks towards strangers on the internet. Anyway, I think expecting anonymity as a business person is extremely questionable and shouldn't be allowed in a civil society (why should business people who affect other people's lives get to do it from the shadows?). I am fine with journalists or political activists using the internet to maintain anonymity to protect themselves, but if you're monetizing it your information should be public record.
@master-dukecuthbert5061
@master-dukecuthbert5061 4 жыл бұрын
Just came here to laugh at serfs. A year later, still hilarious. Sad I missed this golden nugget when it came out.
@eigna8914
@eigna8914 Жыл бұрын
And here I am 2 years later. 😂😂😂😂
@EIDude
@EIDude 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this over a year later after watching this serfs guy debate some other dude, and he's still the same spineless coward using the same weasly tactics goddamn
@dawsondocuments7203
@dawsondocuments7203 3 жыл бұрын
Zero growth. Really amazing. Takes a special sort of narcist to not improve at all.
@crotchy7667
@crotchy7667 3 жыл бұрын
@@dawsondocuments7203 Serfs just did a fundraiser for survivors of residential schools in collaboration with indigenous channels and other channels such as Thought Slime and Vaush. If he is a narcissist, then he's not just defined by that.
@dawsondocuments7203
@dawsondocuments7203 3 жыл бұрын
@@crotchy7667 "Guy full of himself leverages abused children to make people like him more and grow his following." Don't think that disproves my comment at all....
@illClintonDuval
@illClintonDuval 5 жыл бұрын
This doxxing accusation is just ridiculous
@sagefields5847
@sagefields5847 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny crafted the perfect ending to a debate in this debate
@griffindc
@griffindc 5 жыл бұрын
John Smith: Hi my name is John Smith Person: oh so your name is John Smith? John Smith: Bro why tf r u doxxing me?
@thatoneguyinthecomments2633
@thatoneguyinthecomments2633 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like the F-slur specifically should be the derogatory word for fascists, because it would both piss them off AND its actually justified as the root of both words is actually the same anyway.
@anti-ethniccleansing465
@anti-ethniccleansing465 5 жыл бұрын
Robespierre did nothing wrong Huh? Homosexuality is 100% a leftistdegeneracy issue. It has nothing to do with fascism. Fascism is against suchDegeneracy.
@thatoneguyinthecomments2633
@thatoneguyinthecomments2633 5 жыл бұрын
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 not really sure what your talking about, fascism pretty much the epitome of moral and mental degeneracy. If this were to be done I think the homosexual conotation would be relegated to antiquity, and it would become an exclusively derrogatory infantilization of fascists.
@Jokah_baybee
@Jokah_baybee 4 жыл бұрын
@@thatoneguyinthecomments2633 I don't think you know what fascism is.
@b3b3j4y
@b3b3j4y 4 жыл бұрын
lol this came on autoplay, and i forgot how extremely frustrating this convo was. This is Real Housewives levels of convo looping
@Xenophakes
@Xenophakes 5 жыл бұрын
This arc is making me realize how afraid these people are of being outcast from the leftist community
@ReddoFreddo
@ReddoFreddo 5 жыл бұрын
Amen
@justingutierrez233
@justingutierrez233 5 жыл бұрын
They're such cowards. So glad I'm just a socdem, I won't ever be joining the ranks of these far left cunts if this is how they operate.
@Andrearuch97
@Andrearuch97 5 жыл бұрын
@Hunter FUCK OFF THEN YOU DUMBASS
@XAssassinTotX96
@XAssassinTotX96 3 жыл бұрын
Mike literally says he’s from Pennsylvania a month before this debate aired. How tf did Destiny dox him?
@Winasaurus
@Winasaurus 3 жыл бұрын
His name online is LITERALLY MikeFromPA. And then spineless lance is saying Destiny doxxed him because he revealed that MikeFromPA is a guy called Mike from the state PA. Fucking ridiculous.
@dannymorales5549
@dannymorales5549 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh you doxxed him. You put public informattion that that person already put in the internet.
@Winasaurus
@Winasaurus 3 жыл бұрын
He revealed that the guy using the name "MikeFromPA" online is actually a guy named Michael from Pennsylvania. Abhorrent behavior.
@dannymorales5549
@dannymorales5549 Жыл бұрын
​@@WinasaurusTerrible even.
@ethologos2580
@ethologos2580 5 жыл бұрын
This guy must've been shocked to find out that Cactus Jack, Mankind, Dude Love, and Mick Foley were all the same person.
@Ryan-qu4vx
@Ryan-qu4vx 4 жыл бұрын
Late I know but damn this is an underrated comment.
@anteaterking6728
@anteaterking6728 4 жыл бұрын
He's such a fucking actor, it's actually crazy. The fake patronizing sighing and huffing is so cringey. These people are so see through
@patbonny1175
@patbonny1175 4 жыл бұрын
I was just glad Lance didn't collapse into his creepy fake laugh
@siouxsieslime2985
@siouxsieslime2985 4 жыл бұрын
I like the serf but that laugh is fucking insufferable, i might just unsubscribe from them right now because just thinking abt it annoys me
@DaveGrean
@DaveGrean 4 жыл бұрын
The Serfs is in his 30s? He looks and sounds like he could be 17
@Ivan-qf4mt
@Ivan-qf4mt 4 жыл бұрын
His brain developed at slower pace.
@Ivan-qf4mt
@Ivan-qf4mt 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe after a couple of decades he will emerge as an adult, but not today.
@Froggi_n_Toadi
@Froggi_n_Toadi 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe Destiny leaked that MikefromPA is from Pnew Ajersey
@Drehirth
@Drehirth 3 жыл бұрын
39:35 I love the delivery of that line by Destiny, so satisfying XD
@GuttTruck
@GuttTruck 5 жыл бұрын
Mike from PA posted his address in this debate.
@TheRobMr
@TheRobMr 3 жыл бұрын
The start of this seemed to have a defense for Mike from PA and then without skipping a beat telling destiny "Why should I defend you, you're a big boy".
@phunkh0u538
@phunkh0u538 5 жыл бұрын
No logical person would bring up these types of arguments. Serf really believes he's smarter than what he really is.
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