This Is Why You Should Use Mono Backing With Braided Line

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@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 4 жыл бұрын
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@MTEXX
@MTEXX 4 жыл бұрын
1:30 Bought a inshore rod and reel at thrift store for cheap. Thought there was a drag issue then realized the line was loose on the spool. Come to find it was spooled with 30-50 lb braid. Put on a mono backing (which also helped fill the spool) and boom! Inshore setup with braid for $5!!!
@skjenn13
@skjenn13 3 жыл бұрын
What size mono backing did you puton your real?
@jeg70
@jeg70 Жыл бұрын
This was very informative. I do a lot of surf fishing here in NC and have recently tried braided line. The casting distance is much better! Now I know to spool with mono and top with 100 yards of braid, thank you! I've followed you for a while now and the information is greatly appreciated!
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@LealsFishingAdventures
@LealsFishingAdventures 3 ай бұрын
Dang I do the opposite
@tommyliu4683
@tommyliu4683 4 жыл бұрын
The best and most useful channel for saltwater fisherman. Keep it up guys!!
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 4 жыл бұрын
Except hes talking absolute rubbish.!
@billmatson8711
@billmatson8711 4 жыл бұрын
Good video . I've long since switched to wrapping electrical tape on the spool really tight and go with 300 yds of braid . I reverse the braid a year or two later
@briancoyne3116
@briancoyne3116 2 жыл бұрын
U answered all 3 off my questions Without me even asking them... Thank you very much
@caglarugur
@caglarugur 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Tony. I use 2000, 3000, and 4000 Daiwa LT reels in my inshore fishing in the Mediterranean. The ideal setup for an all-rounder is 3000 size reels and completely filling it with 150 meters of j-braid, 0.16 or 0.18. I don't use backing in this scenario and never had any problems. But, on occasion, I'm getting spooled by large amberjacks or bonitos. So I got another setup ready for high-risk situations with a 4000 Fuego CXH filled with 300 meters of 0.16 j-braid. I don't use backing here, either. First, I don't want to weaken my line strength when pulling a large fish. Secondly, backing and braid connection knot, double uni, or an FG tends to get in the way when you are casting. I have had more than 10 incidents over the past in the middle of fishing, backing comes on top of the braid, and finally, I gave up. No backing anymore, and pretty happy with it.
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
@turkianacom
@turkianacom Жыл бұрын
Did you ever pull big fish successfully without backing? Just curious...
@jackjones7504
@jackjones7504 4 жыл бұрын
To solve problem one I always wrap a piece of electrical tape onto the spool before I tie mono or braid on , it bites into the tape and does not spin.
@tomcrilley959
@tomcrilley959 4 жыл бұрын
Yup! Welcome home, Brother!
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 4 жыл бұрын
Thats the way to do it. Electrical tape is all you need. The other thing is this buisness of spools that are fitted with a rubber " band" having the adhesive let go is just nonsense I sell and spool reels for a living and have never seen that . And if the adhesive did let go the sheer pressure of the line on the rubber would hold things in place because the rubber naturally wont slip on the bare metal in exactly the same fashion that nylon doesnt slip. And nylons a lot smoother than rubber. This dude is a complete drongo. Do not listen to him.
@zuzuanddee
@zuzuanddee 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. 1 second reply to mr.carr
@thedon9670
@thedon9670 4 жыл бұрын
electrical tape will go gummy over time and make a yucky mess.
@AM-we6en
@AM-we6en 3 жыл бұрын
Straight braid no backing. Never had a problem. If you get down that low to your spool it’s time to change anyway.
@kennyw6932
@kennyw6932 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation of why to use backing. Thank you
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 11 ай бұрын
Glad we could help!
@ChrisG9978
@ChrisG9978 Жыл бұрын
Some of the newer reels that are "braid-ready" no longer use a rubber strip in the center, instead they use textured metal inside the spool that the braid can "bite into" which I have found works pretty well. I can't speak for saltwater as I fish the Great Lakes which are freshwater. Electrical tape also does the job but should be removed/changed up whenever the reel is re-spooled.
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 10 ай бұрын
Yup!!
@stephenkohut384
@stephenkohut384 4 жыл бұрын
Mono or fluoro works. Electrical tape works. I usually use a small rubber band. I’ve also used a couple wraps of elastic thread like Atlas miracle thread. Essentially anything will stay fairly stationary against the spool that braid can “bite” into works.
@ralph9987
@ralph9987 3 жыл бұрын
Still do t know how much backing to put on? 1/2 1/4, 2/3???
@MN_Angler39
@MN_Angler39 3 жыл бұрын
I've never backed braid and caught tons of heavy fish. Never a problem.
@Big_Boss92
@Big_Boss92 3 жыл бұрын
It is to save money on line that you won't use on the reel.
@achilles5929
@achilles5929 4 жыл бұрын
What pound test for the mono backing line? And how many yards of backing?
@RedSinter
@RedSinter 3 жыл бұрын
Do you match pound for pound backing to Braid? Also, what length of leader do you run? Lastly, Double Uni, Nail Knot, or FG for leader to braided?
@hcnevils
@hcnevils Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Just subscribed!
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@santiagohernandez..
@santiagohernandez.. 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting! thanks Tony maybe a video of how to do a backing?? To be completely honest I haven’t had any issues with a full braided line spool 2500, and 3000 with big fish. First time hearing about this.
@shabbirrasool9611
@shabbirrasool9611 4 жыл бұрын
if you dont know how much of backing to put on your reel ,then you can spool all braid first then top up with mono filament to max ,then remove onto spare spool and reverse the process .
@thedon9670
@thedon9670 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip! Thanks!!
@imadehartawan187
@imadehartawan187 3 жыл бұрын
O did it that way as well.
@TheIconicFisherman
@TheIconicFisherman 7 ай бұрын
I'll just stick to using electrical tape because every time I use mono backing the braid eventually ends up digging into the spool at some point and that ends up pissing me off. and if I use electrical tape I can just tie it directly to the spool and it won't slip because the rubbery texture gives it something to grip onto. And my uncle Ryan's the same way too he uses electrical tape and he prefers it as well over mono backing.
@madzr3093
@madzr3093 Жыл бұрын
Awesome info. Definitely informative for aspiring anglers. Thanks man!
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@bearbuchanan8341
@bearbuchanan8341 4 жыл бұрын
good morning this is mr bear from hudson fl. i have noticed that when eny one talks about mono backing no one ever has told us what size mono to use . another words should i use 10lbs mono for 15lbs braid when spooling a spinning reel???????????? thank you i hope you reely do answer.
@moonpiespotlight4759
@moonpiespotlight4759 3 жыл бұрын
Consider that the mono likely won't come into play unless you get a fish that goes on a long run, but you still have to join the mono to the braid, so you don't want really thin braid on really thick mono. I use 20lb sufix braid on 10lb mono. That gives me plenty of backing and if the fish goes on a long run, the mono just acts like a tow rope for the braid.
@micknoname6466
@micknoname6466 3 жыл бұрын
@@moonpiespotlight4759 I came here hoping to find out what type of knots are best for tying backing to braid. I’ve got the FG knot sorted for the braid to leader but was wondering what the norm is for the other end?
@brucer9409
@brucer9409 3 жыл бұрын
@@micknoname6466 I don't fully understand the concept at hand, but have read elsewhere that the pound test of the mono backing does make a difference in the overall functioning of the final braid line you are fishing with. I recollect they advised to use thinner 8# or so test because if you use a heavier, larger diameter mono, there will be more space in between the wraps which your final braid line can more easily dig into, which obviously will result in less smoother casting and shorted distances. These guys invite questions but don't bother to answer them. It's an important consideration which should have been addressed in the content of the video!
@6atlantis
@6atlantis 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a great knot my local tackle shop tied on so there was no need for any backing, flat rate for spooling up so I’d rather all braid anyways, I was skeptical about this “new knot”. Fast forward I broke the reel, took it back to BPS with my gear guard and suffice to say they were impressed with the knot and no need for backing. I have to ask the guy Pete what he tied and how!
@jasl7358
@jasl7358 4 жыл бұрын
Probably a reverse clinch knot
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 4 жыл бұрын
Its not the knot! Its the fact that the braid has been put on tight enough that it grips the spool, which often doesnt happen because of the lack of stretch it has. Mono has stretch and the tension we put on it when spooling means it contracts a bit and is hence very tight! Braid doesnt do this. I would still strongly advise to put some tape on because regardless of the knot you are at some risk of it slipping if your spool gets too wet (to the core). So you should remain skeptical. People try to be clever with silly knots and take a risk with YOUR FISHING. Theres just no need for it. Use tape. Where I work I have to re spool reels very frequently because of this. Its irresponsible what the shop has done with your reel.
@6atlantis
@6atlantis 4 жыл бұрын
mark rigg no it’s definitely the knot and tension. Not to sound condescending but I know my gear and gear in general, this knots the real deal. For two seasons all three reels he spooled up with braid (all 3 spools had factory “braid grooves” keep in mind) had no problems. No need for tape, only mono if I’m looking to save money from now on if this guys spools me up, if I spool myself up that’s a diff story.
@6atlantis
@6atlantis 4 жыл бұрын
Jas L maybe I have to ask next time I’m in the shop.
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 4 жыл бұрын
@@6atlantis Its not the knot. Its just the tension. The knot is only securing one wrap of braid around the core of the spool. You cant get much friction with 1 wrap!. Everything else that happens as you start to fill the reel is due to the tension and pressure of the accumulated wraps of line on top pressing down on the core. Please think about what Im saying carefully.
@naturegreen7233
@naturegreen7233 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍 (Do we need to tie the top braided line with the bottom mono filament backing line?)
@charlesmurray1220
@charlesmurray1220 2 жыл бұрын
So helpful. Thanks!!!
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@aklasik-one
@aklasik-one 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this.I Was wondering why I was having trouble with my reel and braid line
@Samy_aza_TTV
@Samy_aza_TTV 5 ай бұрын
I still don’t understand the point of backer to fill your spool. Like you will end up using the line anyway. If you have 300 yards of line and put all 300 on or 150 on with 100 yards backer at some point you’ll use the other 150. I must be missing something
@floods0ftears
@floods0ftears 3 ай бұрын
If you have 300m of braid, you will either be short on braid to completely fill the spool, or you will completely fill the spool with say 250m of braid and throw the rest in the waste bin
@nevadaboy9769
@nevadaboy9769 2 ай бұрын
I just got a new levelwind for trolling & the spool holds 400 yds of 65 lb braid, my braid comes in 300 or 1200 yrds & can never find the 1200 always out of stock plus 300 would be plenty for my needs but i want the spool full for the line counter to work properly, so what lb mono would you suggest for filler or is there another way? Thanks
@winston9505
@winston9505 3 жыл бұрын
Helpful! Thank you!
@danielclemons6401
@danielclemons6401 2 жыл бұрын
Great article
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@RonKris
@RonKris 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question about not filling the spool completely with braid. If you're saying that a spool .75% full will cause the braid to heat and not last as long due to the line hitting the spool top when casting, wouldn't the same thing happen to the braid on a full spool after the first 25-30 yards is cast off a full spool?
@mrfunnyguy3934
@mrfunnyguy3934 4 жыл бұрын
On a freshwater meant baitcaster, what lb test mono should I use die backing if I’m using 20 lb braid?
@itvisor1
@itvisor1 4 жыл бұрын
Professional as usual
@groovyfalcon5583
@groovyfalcon5583 3 жыл бұрын
So I didn’t use mono backing do u think it’s possible to salvage the braid already on the spool
@mysteryman5213
@mysteryman5213 2 жыл бұрын
What knot do you recommend to join the mono to the braid? TIA
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 2 жыл бұрын
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@ebmixez7621
@ebmixez7621 Жыл бұрын
Brother important question can I back up my braided line with mono in my ultralight set up? Would that affect my casting distance?
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 10 ай бұрын
Sure can!
@अदित्यदिशामगर
@अदित्यदिशामगर 3 жыл бұрын
Hello sir braid line who is coler bes the fishing.?
@larrymor
@larrymor Жыл бұрын
I think it's the calculation of mono backing to braid that is the big question. I have a new 4000 reel but I'm told that different brands of reels don't hold the same yardage of line as other brands of 4000 reels. I have a 300 yard spool of 832 braid and I'd like to use it on two different reels. I guess I'll have to break out my college calculus book......
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong Жыл бұрын
Different reels will hold different amounts of different weight line
@larrymor
@larrymor Жыл бұрын
@@Saltstrong Thank you. That was my assumption. I think different braids have different diameters, too. I'd assume 8-strand is thicker than four. I guess I could still be okay with the quarter inch measure.
@RaulMartinez-ng7pi
@RaulMartinez-ng7pi 4 жыл бұрын
Does it matter what # test mono you use for the backing?
@LeskoBrandon2x
@LeskoBrandon2x 4 жыл бұрын
Nope. Just 10 yards of mono. Any lb test will work.
@thedon9670
@thedon9670 4 жыл бұрын
@@LeskoBrandon2x Depends how much braid you have. You may need a lot more than 10 yards mono if you only have 150 yards of braid and its not enough to fill the spool.
@LeskoBrandon2x
@LeskoBrandon2x 4 жыл бұрын
@@thedon9670 then that would be a question of how much braid you decided to buy. You don’t need anymore than 10 yards of mono. The next step is filling up your spool with braid. If you need more than 150, buy a bigger spoil.
@chriswalls5831
@chriswalls5831 3 жыл бұрын
When I used 20 lb braid no leader big bass i go set hook and feel my reel kick wouldn't hook them
@ugsisr
@ugsisr 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You.... Have a Question.... New to using Braided Line.... What do you use to Cut it ? I have a Carbon Scissors but it does not cut it clean... Appreciate any help..... Thank You
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 2 жыл бұрын
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@thedeegeesaga
@thedeegeesaga 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, thanks for the video! But I have some doubts. Should I consider getting a mono backing with the same thickness, or closer test strength? Thank you!
@diceNdiceN
@diceNdiceN 2 жыл бұрын
Why does the reel need to be full all the way? Do you just need to put enough mano to cover the spool
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 2 жыл бұрын
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@pinnacleMM
@pinnacleMM 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid
@ryateo1
@ryateo1 3 жыл бұрын
I have a buddy who swears by this, but I blew him off. Personally I've never had an issue. If I ever do though, I'll keep this in mind.
@stephenrothman6058
@stephenrothman6058 3 жыл бұрын
what knot from the mono to the braid?
@stevehare498
@stevehare498 4 жыл бұрын
Been workin in the tackle industry 40+ years and spool reels everyday...maybe how you do it on eastcoast..but here on the west coast we use a turn of electrical tape on arbor to lock braid to spool and then fill from a bulk spool of line to ensure proper filling..leaving room for a floro or mono topshot...that way you have capacity for long runs,which you loose when only putting on 150 yards and having mono on bottom that over time becomes weaker with salt and compression from braid and possibly losing a fish of a lifetime due to line failer and lack of capacity
@stevehare498
@stevehare498 4 жыл бұрын
Also you do save money in the longrun filling off bulk spools wether from a shop or DYI..as braid can last 7-10 years if cared for. While only putting 150yards on you will end up replacing more often if you fish alot thus spending more on small filler spools
@seanwoodburn2616
@seanwoodburn2616 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@moonpiespotlight4759
@moonpiespotlight4759 3 жыл бұрын
This is true for the bigger pelagic fishing gear but for the 3000 - 4000 series reels, you're likely not going to have 150 yard runs. If you do the braid isn't going to save you.
@paulalexsr.4476
@paulalexsr.4476 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning how much mono & poundage do you use?
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 2 жыл бұрын
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@robertbeaver7695
@robertbeaver7695 4 жыл бұрын
Can I put braided line on a non braided ready spool?
@iEzJay
@iEzJay 2 жыл бұрын
If I lose a bit of that braid.. lets say 75 yards out of my 150 yards.. would it be wiser to just replace it entirely or does adding braid on top of old braid work?
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@fenderjazz5710
@fenderjazz5710 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video.
@jackpetrey2084
@jackpetrey2084 4 жыл бұрын
Use cohesive gauze tape. You’ll be amazed.
@BasicFishingNZ
@BasicFishingNZ 4 жыл бұрын
awesome video and tips. i personally prefer having backing when using braid.
@Jingling-MelO
@Jingling-MelO 2 жыл бұрын
For those of you that never have this problem of your line spinning on your reel... do you fish in the winter at all? This is the only time it happens for me. And I'm about to switch to some mono backing. I'm gonna hold off on the electrical tape as that seems excessive if mono backing works.
@ykonratev
@ykonratev 2 жыл бұрын
ive done mono backing from the very start just to use less braid and never had any issue whatsoever. The braid is so thin that spooling the whole reel with braid for most people just makes no sense...if you use a small reel then you should spool the whole thing probably idk
@KeShuni
@KeShuni 3 жыл бұрын
Is this only with open face reels or baitcasters as well?
@moonpiespotlight4759
@moonpiespotlight4759 3 жыл бұрын
With baitcasters you'd use the backing to save braid but you can often tie braid to the spool through the spool itself so no spinning, but you won't be using that last 100 yards or so of braid, but when you get a birds nest or spooled, you'll certainly be losing it.
@steveleston5455
@steveleston5455 4 жыл бұрын
I just started using braid I noticed when hooking a giant fish the braid buries itself deep in the spool. this has happened on both bait caster and spinning reels?
@timhelton624
@timhelton624 4 жыл бұрын
Braid not tight enuff on spoil
@stevelasitor9995
@stevelasitor9995 4 жыл бұрын
@@timhelton624 not liking braid my 7K spinnreels have somehow twisted both the 50&60LB braid. I always use a leader w/ a swivel. I have tried to let half the spool out and troll just the line, just like untwisting the anchor line. still twisted. can I still use this twisted braid.Steve from Alabama
@tem2k3
@tem2k3 4 жыл бұрын
If Tony or anyone else can help me out... does the mono backing have to be the same size line as your braid??? For instance, 20lb mono for 20lb braid, or 50lb mono for 50lb braid???
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 4 жыл бұрын
No it doesnt . Please remember that nylon 20 lb is a different diameter to 20lb, so its size is not the same. If you have enough braid to fill the reel, there is no need to use nylon mono to get it to grip. Just use some electrical tape. It is literally a waste of time using nylon. I cant stress enough that the advise in this vid is very poor. I spool dozens of customers reels per week and have been doing that for 26 years and I can tell you so many anglers get things wrong. Be very careful about taking advise from youtube "experts"!
@tonyacevedo3149
@tonyacevedo3149 4 жыл бұрын
@@markrigg6623 its also a waste of money putting 400 yards of braid on a spool. Tim I generally stick with a light mono as it will lay better on the spool (8 to 10lb) which allows the braid to lay better as well.
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonyacevedo3149 Yes that's right. Don't use really thick backing with thin braid on top as it doesn't pack down well due to the unevenness of the thick nylon.
@thedon9670
@thedon9670 4 жыл бұрын
@@markrigg6623 so for 26 years you have been getting customers to fill their spools with braid to make more profit. Nice..
@brandondawson3782
@brandondawson3782 4 жыл бұрын
Does the same apply when using a baitcaster?
@allin6532
@allin6532 4 жыл бұрын
How much mono do u put on before 150 yards of braid? Do you tie the braid to the mono?
@ludwig6332
@ludwig6332 2 жыл бұрын
1 year ago. I just asked that question 03/29/22 in a way. Did you find out how much backing to put on? I think the reel in the background shows an estimate of fill for mono. See it?
@allin6532
@allin6532 2 жыл бұрын
@@ludwig6332 just put enough to cover most of spool once and then tie on braid to mono and start reeling
@pticek2594
@pticek2594 4 жыл бұрын
what diameter mono should I use for example 0.18mm braid
@bilalmeziane
@bilalmeziane 3 жыл бұрын
Was wondering the same, going for 0.3 though
@alexanderaguirre172
@alexanderaguirre172 4 жыл бұрын
How long will be the mono backing?
@mariozd971
@mariozd971 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna change mono with braided line, how much mono i should left on my spinning reel before i put braided linw?
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 2 жыл бұрын
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@mariozd971
@mariozd971 2 жыл бұрын
@@Saltstrong I am first time on a braided line, all the time i was catching on mono, here in Croatia- Adriatic sea , part of the Mediterrean in this part of year i fish mostly squids and cuttlefish( eging) or fish like atlantic bonito and seabass( actually few more but i don't know english name for these fishes, seabass is actually the rare catch cause it's very smart and cunning fish, the bigger they are they are harder)
@robolson7224
@robolson7224 4 жыл бұрын
What knot do you use to the backing mono
@ledforthehead23
@ledforthehead23 4 жыл бұрын
Popular knot to spool is the arbor knot. Then follow that up with a GT knot or uni for mono to braid
@davidkirksey8521
@davidkirksey8521 Жыл бұрын
I just use electric tape, works like a charm and lets me load more braid with higher capacity.
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@jessecerda2613
@jessecerda2613 4 жыл бұрын
Now i know. Very interesting. I didn't know braid would do that.
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 4 жыл бұрын
Just use tape if you have enough braid to fill the spool.
@anthonykutey1686
@anthonykutey1686 4 жыл бұрын
Sure does work!
@andreaa3793
@andreaa3793 3 жыл бұрын
im fishing inshore. i have a 3000 revros reel. would 50 yards mono and 150 yard braid fit? or would it be too much or too little backing?
@andreaa3793
@andreaa3793 3 жыл бұрын
10lb mono and 10lb braid
@abogadoalbertogtz
@abogadoalbertogtz Жыл бұрын
For my daiwa regal 3000 i use 165 yd of 10 lb braid and 100 yd of 9 lb mono, i usually fill it with braid first then attach the mono with double uni knot and fill the gap with cheap mono, the transfer to an empty spool then to another free spool to get the mono on top and finally on my reel, to make it faster i use a drill
@lmsmbassaddict7779
@lmsmbassaddict7779 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I never back my spinning reels with mono. Only my baitcasters. On my spinning I use electrical tape because I need all I can get.
@AC-cf1zi
@AC-cf1zi 4 жыл бұрын
How much of that backing mono should be used before switching to braid? May you said it and I missed it ?
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 4 жыл бұрын
Just use tape if you have enough braid to fill the reel!
@willywonka2850
@willywonka2850 3 жыл бұрын
Is the braided line attached to the mono backing? If so, how is it attached?
@huudinii123
@huudinii123 3 жыл бұрын
no..the braided line is attached to thin air, lmaoooooo🤦‍♂️
@bmessenger1022
@bmessenger1022 3 жыл бұрын
I just tape my mono and braided together.
@TysonBaisacOutdoors
@TysonBaisacOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Idk what people are doing but I spoil braid straight to my reel and it never slips
@Nomad_joey
@Nomad_joey Жыл бұрын
Why the backing line is much lower strength than the braid?
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong Жыл бұрын
Here's a great article and video on that topic: www.saltstrong.com/articles/what-size-mono-backing-for-spinning-reels/
@evanpapp2712
@evanpapp2712 3 жыл бұрын
How often do you guys have a fish take you down to the backing?
@bigtex741
@bigtex741 4 жыл бұрын
You basic premise, that backing prevents line slip is incorrect. The practice of adding "backing" to line was introduced originally in English fly fishing where silk lines were used. Backing added length because of the smaller diameter of the line which allowed greater line length. Further, because of the lower quality materials, then wood was the predominant material, compression built up as the line was wound under tension and would warp or destroy the spool. In20th century, when aluminum became the material of choice the tension issue emerged again. Backing provides a cushion for the arbor. Mono is worse because of it's ability to stretch, thus increasing the tension on the arbor. Dacron is the preferred material.
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 4 жыл бұрын
Ive worked in the industry for 26 years and have never seen an aluminium spool distorted by the pressure of nylon. Its all we used to use! There is no need whatsoever to use dacron. Backing is used for several different reasons as well. !
@seanwoodburn2616
@seanwoodburn2616 4 жыл бұрын
@@markrigg6623 I also work in the industry. Much of my life in the 80's and 90's was spent rigging fly gear for bill fishermen and salmon anglers. He is right about fly reels, especially older ones like the Medalist or any of the old Hardy Lightweight or Marquis series. Like you though I have never seen a modern spinning reel or conventional reel distort. It just does not happen with a modern reel...including many fly reels now available. When we started putting braid on bluewater fly reels we found out fast that the line would slip. The bass guys were a few years ahead of us though and we learned to use some mono backing from them. Tape came later and rubber even later. Backing reels other than delicate fly reels has a pretty established history especially with the advent of monofilament but not because of spool distortion so much as line characteristics. Many big game fishermen employed mono as a shock absorber. Dacron and linen line stretch no more that Spectra/Dyneema. They are just "fatter" for a given diameter. Sometimes you want the casting characteristic of one line but need capacity. Another reason is casting characteristics or abrasion resistence. Braid on a conventional long casting rig with no level wind is a nightmare. If the line lay is less than perfect it buries itself. I am talking about rigs casting 100 to 200 yards on a conventional reel with no level wind. Mono on TOP here is more castable and gives abraision resistance. The braid underneath gives capacity and with pressure from the leviathan the problem of line being buried is mitigated. You do still need backing, tape or rubber underneath to prevent slipping though. I use this kind of setup for oversize sturgeon from the bank... Just a comment or two... Cheers!
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 4 жыл бұрын
@@seanwoodburn2616 Thanks for the input Sean and everything you say makes sense. Cheers!
@deepPuddlesarefun
@deepPuddlesarefun 7 ай бұрын
I think this is just general information and not a history lesson
@daddyjoemakesit1412
@daddyjoemakesit1412 4 жыл бұрын
hi, as a beginner, when using mono and braided lines how much mono should go on the reel first? thanks
@chubbybear388
@chubbybear388 4 жыл бұрын
I'm also a beginner. I'm just using mono to cover a reel surface just a little bit.
@deanjohnson5580
@deanjohnson5580 3 жыл бұрын
Great Vid. Ever tried flipping your braid by going from reel to reel to save two steps?
@nathanmatheaus2930
@nathanmatheaus2930 4 жыл бұрын
Im running 20lb braid on my baitcasters with mono backing. I recently just ripped it all off because the braid would dig into itself, and stop mid cast/snap my hooks and weight off. Sometimes it even looked like the braid made a loop around another part of the braid. Should i up the lb of braid? I use powerpro. It was put on with resistance so it wasnt loose, brakes and everything was set to what i was rigged up with. I fish in texas bays, i run green braid, and there are also oysters bed sometimes. Thanks
@crowne
@crowne 3 жыл бұрын
From another video, spool the braid with a lot of tension to get it tight, and it shouldn't bite.
@jafetjuarez5983
@jafetjuarez5983 2 жыл бұрын
can i use electrical tape as back up?
@seanmorgan2678
@seanmorgan2678 4 жыл бұрын
I use electric tape. works great.
@thedon9670
@thedon9670 4 жыл бұрын
until it goes gummy after a while and makes a big gooey mess.
@robertcornelius3514
@robertcornelius3514 4 жыл бұрын
@@thedon9670 , ahhh. You poor baby.
@victorgeorge4299
@victorgeorge4299 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertcornelius3514 just use good quality tape and it will not get gummy
@Hezakiah4
@Hezakiah4 3 жыл бұрын
Had just braid on my Michell 308 and it all spun right off
@jerrypauling7809
@jerrypauling7809 3 жыл бұрын
I've never had that problem, yet
@Repsol000
@Repsol000 Жыл бұрын
Never used backing for 25 years.. I've always used electric tape must be a new gen thing
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong Жыл бұрын
Whatever works for you!
@PointBlankCHL
@PointBlankCHL 5 ай бұрын
Braided line will not slip...That's an old myth.....Watch the beyond braid video.....I have never had it slip either....
@saltylawaia8958
@saltylawaia8958 4 жыл бұрын
My buddy did it once I laughed and felt bad.. but mostly laughed
@lag256
@lag256 4 жыл бұрын
You can also learn how to tie a knot that won't slip it is so easy it took me 5 min to learn it and it works great
@mufa1967
@mufa1967 4 жыл бұрын
There is no valid braid knot on regular spools. As it shown on the video, there is a braid ready spool, but it is much cheaper if use mono backing. Most of braid which is manufactured of trusty brand cost a lot. And we always need new size, new colours and it hard to afford it. So we quite often by a 150 meters and that is not enough to fill up the spool because the braid is thin. Again, the mono backing is smart way the fill up the gap. Don't let anyone full you that, there is a good braid knot for regular spool. And, if I may say, the best knot for connecting the backing mono and braid is the double uni knot.
@SuhailAly-qy7bn
@SuhailAly-qy7bn Жыл бұрын
Hi, thabks for the info. Whats the name of the name of the braid spool knot?
@lmsmbassaddict7779
@lmsmbassaddict7779 4 жыл бұрын
Super glue works good too better for salt water. I got a good system for Superglu but I honestly don't use it I just use electrical tape
@Jbonn6141
@Jbonn6141 2 жыл бұрын
For me its because when casting, you never use a full spool. Its pointless filling an entire spool with expensive braid when you dont need it. Fill the spool first with cheap mono that will never leave the spool then top up with braid
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 4 жыл бұрын
Its scary that nonsense like this can be put out to the public. Just use electrical tape, and if your reel has a spool we pre installed rubber, do not get in a panic about the glue letting go. On some reels there is no glue! Rubber grips metal better than nyon line, with or without glue . Holy crap.
@thedon9670
@thedon9670 4 жыл бұрын
you've been ripping customers off for years getting them to buy way more braid than they need to you can make more money. Not cool. Mono backing saves a lot of money and has always worked well.
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 4 жыл бұрын
@@thedon9670 No I use mono backing all the time with 150 yd rolls of braid. Its only when they insist on a full spool of braid, which is a legitimate thing to do for some applications, that I use electrical tape. You might want to put your brain into gear before you accuse people of things matey.
@frez777
@frez777 2 жыл бұрын
Roland Martin just uses super glue and glues the line right to the spool.
@konosamero3654
@konosamero3654 Жыл бұрын
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@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@duncansmith536
@duncansmith536 4 жыл бұрын
You know what would be great? If braid manufactures would somehow mark their line every 25 or 50 yards with a change in color for a foot or so.
@kevinalt8437
@kevinalt8437 4 жыл бұрын
They do make that, usually used for offshore deep dropping baits
@XaltLures
@XaltLures 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea for PE braided line factories! If i order 300 yard braided line at the local angler shop they put some little peaces of utility tape every 50 yard.
@lukphom3727
@lukphom3727 4 жыл бұрын
Get multicolour braid they usually change colour at different lengths like every 20 yards for eg
@paulalexsr.4476
@paulalexsr.4476 2 жыл бұрын
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@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@awnik99
@awnik99 2 жыл бұрын
Really? 150 m braid is like what? 25-30$? Is that so expesive that you cant afford to buy a new one once every 3-5 years?
@Saltstrong
@Saltstrong 2 жыл бұрын
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@happycustomer5934
@happycustomer5934 4 жыл бұрын
Use tape, even cheaper!
@shihabshiha605
@shihabshiha605 4 жыл бұрын
Brother give me one stick please...
@azrulleo2999
@azrulleo2999 4 жыл бұрын
No, go buy yourself.
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