This LG washing machine sells your personal data 🤦

[@bandwagon240]

Would you say the washing machine airs my dirty laundry? I'll see myself out.

[@em0_tion]

I love puns, take that - 👌👏😂🙏 !

[@blackrifle6736]

*Wait, wait. You said you'll be here all week

[@michalsvihla1403]

You could say it uploads the exact size of your daily load.

[@quipsilvervr]

Nope, come back, that was a good joke!

[@LucenProject]

Yup, your appliances have been collecting a lot of dirt on you.

[@christasimon9716]

I REALLY don't want to know what kind of data my memory foam mattress collects.

[@arhamumer1332]

I think its better you dont know that you dont want that on your conciousness

[@deleted_handle]

it collects your dreams. and your taste.

[@BravoDeltaZeroZero]

You've given it PTSD...😂

[@danielscarbrough4363]

Mattress data is now used in court cases against cheating spouses...oh my!

[@ivanrolstad7751]

Don't worry. Soon our toilets are going to get us to agree to TOS. I REALLY DON'T want to share THAT kind of data. Soon we can't use our toilets unless we agree to a TOS.

[@Kim_Lund]

And people wonder why I'm always anxious over having to replace tech and appliances.

[@rossmanngroup]

Yes!

[@fluffystagbeetle4526]

Yeah same girl! I love gaming and like having a big TV but most modern TVs always have evil crap in them its so depressing lol. Finding an alternative is hard

[@richardsanchez5444]

Is it possible nowadays to have appliances that DONT need WiFi or Internet connection?

[@Kim_Lund]

@@richardsanchez5444 ... My mom gave me a coffee machine that is sort of great, makes coffe at specified times, neat.... Had to give it its own little walled garden on the wifi :/

[@Kim_Lund]

@@fluffystagbeetle4526 I just use a projector with my computer. Not cheap, but thanks to corporate needs, less privacy invasive.

[@Zyo117]

Now this is what I call money laundering.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

😂😭

[@markusTegelane]

a brain washing machine

[@Sunset4Semaphores]

Oh, that's a good one!

[@categoricamente1753]

This is why its important to not ''over digitalize'' your life. Look for good products that are not ''smart'' in any way, just pure hardware.

[@kwoni3337]

👏 👏 👏

[@nobody8717]

When "how many loads did you do this month" becomes a monetizable fact in your personal record, you might have an issue with how much advertising controls your life.

[@cirelesten]

"I'm sorry you have reached your wash limit for the month. Please upgrade your subscription to continue the wash cycle."

[@silentlyjudgingyou]

@@cirelesten Don't give them ideas

[@Carrie_Cross]

I read this very differently at first...

[@djtreq]

Does that apply to the data the washer collects, or the vids the robovacuum records?

[@kdavidsmith1]

​@@silentlyjudgingyou they already have this idea and it is exactly what they're working up to

[@atmartins16]

I'd very much appreciate that home assistant tutorial, keep up the good work, we need more people like you.

[@Youtubehandlethefirst]

Yes

[@lmbpros]

​@@KZbinhandlethefirstPls do a tutorial please

[@wubster100]

Yes

[@aljazbrilj1698]

Yes please, people pay to get education to do this themself all tho they don't have to

[@MadaraUchihaSecondRikudo]

Absolutely

[@Relkond]

Those penalties arn't penalties. They're a profit-sharing

[@Paulie820]

"Oh come on, how does a washing machine even GET my data?" - Me, audibly, immediately seeing this video

[@nonotorious1467]

Same, why does it need an app? What is wrong with people.

[@aeson000]

Internal sensors inside the washing machine can figure out the humidity, material, and size of the clothing in question (This allows the machine to figure out what clothing you're washing. For instance, a suit might be heavier and made out of more water absorbant fabric than a regular t-shirt). You really only need to know a few bits of info + user inputted wash times (like what cycle settings), wifi network data, as well as common usage times to triangulate a LOT of potential data. Not sure if LG machines work like this, but I've seen the insane data you can get out of a "Smart" washing machine. Thing is, the data collected isn't really a problem since it doesn't have much value, but if it gets leaked, i'm not sure if people would be fine with their movement patterns and household activity being known to the world, as well as what kind of clothes they wash (think underwear types)

[@leonro]

​@@aeson000The data collection is also a problem because LG is selling it, which is no different to leaking the data with a paywall attached. Heck, sometimes hackers will sell private data they got from companies. If these hackers somehow got an executive to sign a EULA that allowed them to harvest the data and sell it, then this process should be about as legally fair as LG collecting and selling your data.

[@Denniss7420]

@@aeson000 So all of this "Smart" stuff makes everyone dumber!

[@robster7787]

I’ve never connected my LG to the Internet nor made an account to LG. There’s zero benefit to giving it internet access.

[@Eener1000]

Example: Having a fridge connect to the internet to keep stock of your food sounds great, untill it starts selling your data to your health insurance, you get sick and your health insurance refuses to help you because their data shows you bought "to much" of what they consider "unhealthy food". And before anyone goes "well you should have eaten healthy" they will dictate what's "healthy". This will happen if they can get away with it.

[@jer1776]

I was thinking the same thing will start happening. The fact that your roommate can buy a lot of junkfood or put leftover fast food in the fridge and it can affect you is absurd.

[@donquique1]

That happened with onstar sending driving data to insurance companies without telling the car owner.

[@smithynoir9980]

Spot on! If we are paying for health insurance, they will pay for whatever health care that we deem that we require. If they contest me on that, I will win and they will get nothing.

[@john6372]

Imagine having friends over and they stuff the fridge with beers. Not your beers mind, now you're labeled as a raging alcoholic.

[@mowgli2071]

"Why is the cleaning bot trying to get in here every time we're naked?"

[@darrennew8211]

You laugh, but Tesla employees were passing around videos of a guy walking naked thru his garage.

[@ThePaperKhan]

​@@darrennew8211 is this true? Not saying that it doesn't sound plausible, but also could easily be something to make Tesla look bad. Elon Musk is a little controversial, so people sometimes make stuff up.

[@darrennew8211]

@@ThePaperKhan Or, instead of asking me, you could google "tesla video naked garage" to see how many reliable news sites reported on it and read all about it. Then you can judge for yourself.

[@chikinrasshu]

@@ThePaperKhan Search: "Tesla employees watching cameras" on Google, read the Reuters article. '[...] Some of the recordings caught Tesla customers, opens new tab in embarrassing situations. One ex-employee described a video of a man approaching a vehicle completely naked.'

[@RoastFlea61]

@@ThePaperKhanoh it’s very true, it’s a huge problem (or at the very least *was*) at Tesla, employees have access to basically all video recorded by the Tesla, even when it’s parked in your driveway or garage. It may have changed, but Louis did do a video on it, I’d highly recommend watching it. If I can find a link to it I’ll edit it here later.

[@logokas]

A home assistant setup guide would be awesome. These videos are increasingly making me more paranoid and concerned about making sure that any "smart" device I use works locally and without leaking data to these bottomless vacuums.

[@kjungst]

you really think that chinese "smart home" devices don't record/collect data and isn't sending it to china?

[@georgewengler5396]

We moved into a new house 4 years ago and had to shop for a new clothes washer/dryer. Went to a local appliance store. The salesman was pushing a "smart" appliance, that would send you a text when the load is done, blah, blah, blah. We considered it, but then came to our senses. Why do we need a washer to send us a text? Just more tech that will spy on you and eventually break, or end up charging you a subscription. We ended up buying a used "non-smart" set for half the price of of just one new washer. Been working great so far. We can hear the end-of-cycle buzzer throughout the house. No text needed! Tech is being put into the simplest of things. People are stupid thinking it's cool and necessary. Wake up people!

[@marysbigpimp]

Word

[@SuperGirl-tf2wn]

Correct. Quit buying shit with an Internet connection. What is the point of an IoT toaster? So a script kiddie can hack it and burn your bread?

[@torinnbalasar6774]

​@@SuperGirl-tf2wnno, it's so a script kiddie can hack your toaster and reformat the software to hack your computer or add it to a bonnet... And burn your toast because they didn't try to retain the original functionality when they cracked it.

[@TheHellis]

I disagree. We have a smart washing machine and it's great for us. Our house is tech driven and it fits our home and style very well. We can start the machine remotely, which means we can load up the machine, go visit some relatives without knowing or having an exact time to be home to and we just stat the machine when we feel that it's soon time to go. When the washing machine ends a reading of the humidity level is taken in the washing room as the set point. When we open the door to the washing machine the air dryer starts automatically. The air dryer runs until it has reached the same humidity - a few percent or for a maximum time. Then it shuts off for an hour and then starts up again and runs until it hits its target again. There are a lot of appliances I wouldn't get the smart version of, but washing machine is one of those that you can integrate very well in to your smart home and it can really improve your life.

[@srdjan455]

Could have bought smart and not use the smart feature as well

[@mhods4457]

"SMART" refers to "self-monitoring, analysis, and reporting technology."

[@chadmckean9026]

i though that was ""S.M.A.R.T."

[@agraham57]

The "S" in "IOT" stands for security.

[@AnAnonymousAuditor]

@@agraham57 And also, the "P" in "IOT" stands for Privacy.

[@d_techterminal]

​@@agraham57I have a pfsense firewall which restricts iot devices from connecting to the internet and it's all managed by home assistant

[@quanchyplimp]

Not forgetting the silent P in SWIMMING.

[@csunstudent148]

A home assistant guide would be absolutely awesome, and I would watch it in full multiple times and advocate for anyone I know to set one up as well! Would love to see that

[@dash4800]

Here is my guide to home assistants. Don't get one. They are pointless and stupid. Just get off your lazy ass and take the 1.5 seconds to do the extremely mundane crap you are using this idiotic thing for.

[@elliottmoreland8873]

Absolutely, I'd love to learn more about it too

[@mf--]

Wonder if he can get LTT to sponsor it.

[@ivladjoll7410]

So would i

[@joshua7551]

As someone who has been running home assistant for a long while, I think a guide is pretty necessary. Some of the things that you have to do to get home assistant running properly are not intuitive at all

[@mwbgaming28]

In corporate America, TV watches YOU

[@richardsanchez5444]

Hahaha niceeee. Also sad but true.

[@rockets4kids]

The amount of information people willingly give out these days would make a 1960s KGB agent cream their pants.

[@kittentheboss2796]

Almost like everyone is on the Truman Show but we're the product.

[@kingpolo1920]

Another LG video.. watch out for another scorpion…

[@RipRoaringGarage]

First in the pinned comment?

[@enissay9950]

9:32 YES please do a HomeAssistant guide! you will be inspiring and sensitivising tons of people

[@mr.chalupacabra3587]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make a Home Assistant guide! It would be beyond appreciated. Thanks for all that you do!!!

[@runed0s86]

homeassistant is SO EASY to set up! I hope he makes a guide for it!

[@pavels4923]

Won't help with LG ThinQ (and many others for that matter) - there is no local option. Although HomeAssitant plugin exists, the plugin itself talks to the LG cloud and not to the appliance directly. The appliance does not have any standardized local interface and if you try to fake the cloud locally (which will be A LOT OF work), you will most likely run into problems with https certificates (the appliance wants to talk to particular domain and checks for the valid certificate - though this is theory and maybe they just skip the check - than it would be possible). Matter may solve this problem in the future if the manufacturers will decide to implement it, HomeKit also works locally and is reverse engineered enough so you don't need apple products and can be made work with HomeAssistand both ways (either get HomeKit devices into HA or export HA devices to iPhones as HomeKit accessory) - but many manufacturers still insists to use their proprietary cloud solutions and unless that changes, there is little hope to make many of these devices work local only.

[@caffeinesippingman]

Speak for yourself, I want LG to count my loads and offer ads for tide and Trojan. Wait, my wife doesn't want lg to count the loads, so I also want the video.

[@krissjacobsen9434]

And this is why you should never buy appliances that connect to the internet. I've yet to see a single appliance where internet connectivity gives the end user some actual value.

[@Beowulf95]

The opposite actually Forget even the data gathering and such, it adds to the initial cost of the product AND if it fails but everything else is fine, you have a bricked machine ....... GENIUS

[@MaddJakd]

The downside to that is now the "old style" stuff thats left is haphazardly built. Gotta worry about the new Maytag we bought. Didn't have any tos to agree to, but wouldn't be the first time a device was actually data mining.

[@VADemon]

@@MaddJakd As if this new ODM/OEM stuff is any better. Besides marketing this is just another point of failure in some cases.

[@thedeadgypsy]

Exactly.

[@MaddJakd]

@VADemon While I don't totally disagree, my mother was hunting down and older style stove recently with the coil burners to replace her gllas-top that's going out. The few she found all had bad reviews across the board. Stuff that would be a dime a dozen on all the old stoves they've gone through. Guess they're all bad now honestly. The new ones only lasted a few years, and if you can find anything old, better know how to work on it, because they didn't bother it seems.

[@unfilthy]

We have been buying LG products since DVD player times, because we've been happy with them. We recently got a larger home and were expecting to buy a larger LG TV. That's not going to happen now. I'm grateful to Louis for informing people who aren't necessarily focused on following all that's happening in these areas, but still do not wish to support these (too common) practices.

[@absurdengineering]

Buy a professional monitor that is just a monitor, and hook it up to a media PC. Modern TVs bundle the monitor with an obsolete-upon-sale “smarts”. That’s wholly unnecessary. There’s no need for a TV anymore. If you get OTA, use a tuner dongle for the PC. It’ll usually work better than most “TVs”.

[@CyberDocUSA]

@4:55 _"We don't kink shame here at Rossmann Repair Group."_ 🤣

[@worawatli8952]

So nice of him thinking of minorities. lol Being watched by someone without consent and uploading by themselves are completely different thing.

[@randomperson-qj1oq]

my respect for louis rossmann just skyrocketed upon seeing that

[@thegarage5919]

🤣🤣

[@randomperson-qj1oq]

@@the_kombinator do you not like the lack of kink shaming or something?

[@CyberDocUSA]

@@randomperson-qj1oq ignore the uncircumcized Philistines. 😂

[@justinbailey6515]

WAIT! Wait. wait. Is this machine reporting on the status of my clothes? For the record, those skid marks belong to my six year old.

[@ericmc6482]

😂

[@mattmurdock4336]

My skiddies were there when I bought those underpants.

[@Hey1234Hey]

They can use that information for targeted advertising to sell new underwear and toilet paper i guess

[@davidrumbelow]

Maybe the washing machine can tell me where the socks went that I put in it and only one of each pair came out

[@godlynewbie]

Press X for doubt lol

[@ScottE-2]

It's always good to see Louis talk about his pond. Never heard a man so happy to talk about the things he owns.

[@em0_tion]

That's how you know somebody's found happiness. Peace and appreciation for the "small" things in life. 😉👍

[@shadowsoulless6227]

Oh just wait until his fish start selling his personal data... They're going to start reporting the water quality to Google

[@asiano3385]

There should be no such thing as "privacy policy" when it comes to washing machines. They are home. The only serve one purpose. No wifi or ethernet needed. They are not "clouds". And they don't need one. It is just you put dirty clothes in and you take clean clothes out.

[@SteeveYT.]

i mean If it has an app as in this Case, there has to be privacy Policy. But it should be as simple as "we don't share your WiFi pw with others, and we don't share your location" At maxima it collects how much data it uses and sends that back to them or so

[@TruthDoesNotExist]

internet of stings

[@tkps]

So many use apps attached to these things when they worked without them since their invention. I think people need to stop being so reliant on apps. I know smart TVs you can't do much if you want them to work as they should other than what Louis said but we should minimise our use of the ones we don't need and make sure to opt out when we can.

[@tin2001]

I perfectly understand the desire to have a washing machine that can notify you that it's finished. But this is a local use case. It doesn't need to send data anywhere outside of the local network or over Bluetooth. The privacy policy should simply say "your data is transmitted only to local network devices. It is the user's responsibility to ensure a secure local network." Nothing else is necessary.

[@asiano3385]

@@SteeveYT. it should be as simple as "we only collect crash logs".

[@skodass1]

Don't quote me on this... but the fact they changed it and does not allow you to decline is ILLEGAL in the EU....

[@TheQuickSilver101]

The EU has been much more proactive on such things so that wouldn't surprise me

[@De4dSp0t]

You're missing that the US doesn't care about it's citizens and will gladly sell them to corporations so they can get more money from lobbying and insider trading. Companies have corporate socialism here and citizens can f off is basically what we have.

[@astir0412]

And in Australia to some extent

[@KarlHamilton]

Not true, sadly. Unless I'm just really unlucky.

[@DrakonR]

The EU is a meme in itself.

[@scottmerryman]

Louis I would happily pay (or donate) for you to do a Home Assistant series: - Overview - Setup - Tips and Tricks - hardware recommendations

[@kingzach74]

Me too.

[@DorcasLandry]

Yes we need info

[@awolr]

Was thinking the same. I would gladly pay 100$ right now for guides to de-Corpo my life

[@MadaraUchihaSecondRikudo]

Same

[@gunnaliteswafford3842]

Save your money and just use google. Private home network or VLAN

[@unopine]

Nice to see Louis relaxing by his Koi pond instead of being on the verge of shorting some neurons to ground😆

[@yagzefedemirel3934]

"We don't kink shame here in Rossmann repair group" is dank meme material. It is screaming "free real estate."

[@Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli]

He knows what he’s doing. True businessman.

[@vgamesx1]

It's not a lie its NY real estate.

[@johnson941]

I came for LG washing machine data collection, but I definitely stayed for the fish and psychedelics.

[@shadowsoulless6227]

As someone who hasn't got to that part I'm sorry what

[@saltalmighty1141]

Well i have a washing machine which is very smart , once it's done , the " On " light goes off , and it beeps once to say " hey you lazy Fk , get off the couch and hang your clothes on the drying rack "😄

[@leonro]

If it just beeps once instead of singing a minute long melody then it's definitely smarter than Samsung washing machines. But to be fair, if those devices hadn't sung anything and only beeped, then they'd have to be called Sam or Sambeeped and not Samsung.

[@jacktringoli3299]

I see what you did there lol

[@TheBrain2K]

Well if the washing machine is in a different room/floor, then beeping won't help a lot. But for something as simple as "it's done", you can just use any old non-smart device, put a Shelly power metering relay in front of it and use power consumption to determine the state of the device in Home Assistant. I've done it recently for a dumb/cheap air dehumidifier. I can now see whether it's actively running, idling (fan spinning) or not running at all (water tank is full or someone manually switched it off - which never happens because it can be switched on/off through Home Assistant). No data to the cloud and it's just the 30$ or so for the Shelly PM relay.

[@jer1776]

My old Whirlpool is smart too, when the rinse cycle is over, it stops making a loud spinning sound. 👍

[@ItsYaboiiZac]

i love this guy, talks about stuff and educating us well, then shows us his fish for 10 minutes, thank you

[@robertm708]

Yes. I'm finding that oddly entertaining!

[@megaohmaudio5963]

I want to see the guide video!!! I liked the pond portion a lot. You're livin' the life, Louis.

[@chepulis]

At this point so many people are selling my data i don't understand how it's worth buying

[@NikolaStamenkovic6]

Finally, some reasonable question. Imagine yourself as a mine, and the data they are obtaining is a miner. As the mine is getting depleted, it's worth less until you take everything from it and become worthless. We are becoming worthless to them by the day. Their next issue is adblockers. All that info is useless unless they present you personalized ads.

[@jankoodziej877]

It's really worth pennies, it's not even noticeable money for them... I don't get how they are ok damaging their image so much for such small profits. They risk not selling a device worth thousands of dollars, in hope to get a few pennies per customer...

[@NikolaStamenkovic6]

@jankoodziej877 you are missing a bigger picture. Also, it's recommended a tin foil hat if you don't have one.

[@lawabidingcitizen5153]

@@jankoodziej877 A million pennies is still $10000

[@mikerodix4800]

Its worth alot to ai and feds

[@Marshmallowzzzzz]

My old white Whirlpool doesn't sell shit except guaranteed clean clothes everytime I pull that knob 🤣🤣🤣

[@Denniss7420]

^This. When researching these new fancy HE type washers - I ended uo going on craigslist and finding a used in excellent quality Whirlpool Old Style Agitator machine. Too many problems with those new tech machines.

[@MartintheTinman]

You'll go blind

[@A-se2ur]

Hey, easy!!

[@bassandtrebleclef]

@@gaspumprepairservice7009 never change

[@cfltheman]

I'll bet it is easier to fix too.

[@cherryjuice9946]

For a guy that had trouble in high school chemistry, your pond chemistry knowledge is amazingly good. 1) You correctly stated a few different times that fish need oxygen which is dissolved in the water. Over the past 30 years or so, several people have tried to tell me fish breath the Oxygen from the H2O. They really think the fish can perform an endothermic reaction to get the oxygen they need for life. 2) You knew that algae doesn't take oxygen as it grows, but only after it dies, and starts to decay. Very few people in the general public understand that detail. The media doesn't often explain it, but you made a special point of making it clear.

[@KyrosX27]

latter half of video: Louis flirts with gf whilst pointing at fish we can't see (also fat-shamed a turtle)

[@kiligir]

There is nothing pure in this world, it seems.

[@PichusBlueberryPies]

Everything we like is seemingly going down to the dark side

[@shangrilaladeda]

Water is mostly pure

[@shangrilaladeda]

@@PichusBlueberryPiesthe light will overcome

[@Horace1993]

It's a nice day. To Startagaaaaainnn

[@yipperdeyip]

We need an updated list of companies to support. Should be a short list. Lets do it

[@dragonfalcon8474]

LG, wtf are you guys doing lol.

[@danyo6938]

LG: MONEY 🦀

[@shangrilaladeda]

Money is tight for everyone

[@elenabob4953]

What are the clients doing buying such a machine? How lazy can you be to need a washing machine connected ?

[@shangrilaladeda]

@@elenabob4953 it’s just a gimmick to give a reason for people to replace the old because of a new useless feature. On small engines sthil and husqvarna are using digital carbs which are much worse than the analog ones

[@auturgicflosculator2183]

@@elenabob4953 Do you know every conceivable thing about everything you own? Congrats, you can manufacture everything yourself! You're the only human in existence with a brain, and we're all in awe of your perfection.

[@senecaaurel8050]

I love all you videos but this end is amazingly calming 😁👍

[@rossmanngroup]

Fishy

[@energymass7944]

why does a damn washing machine record data?

[@BrianButterworth-s4z]

Why are they computerized at all? So stupid. More useless junk to break.

[@auturgicflosculator2183]

because it can

[@Denniss7420]

@@BrianButterworth-s4z You're correct. All of those fancy digital displays and soft touch buttons cost more than the machine should they fail. My Whirlpool uses a Analog style timer which costs thirty nine dollars to replace.

[@jasonvors1922]

I wager they will start putting microphones in dryers/washers at some point to be even more invasive, And eventually you will get ads that play during your dry/wash cycles cause greed exists and it won't stop. Oh and you won't be able to use the machines if you're not connected to the Internet so you are trapped into the bs.

[@shakyrob6512]

Because data has been the new form of currency for the powerful entities in charge of everything for awhile now. They can print actual money. Not that it matters because "money" these days is just a digital value that can be adjusted to the whims of those with the ability to do so. It's all about personal data. It's why everything new in households these days monitors everything you do.

[@flashpoint5292]

Once laws forbid companies from selling your personal information, I'm curious what companies will do next to screw us over. I wouldn't be surprised to see subscription services where you need to pay per use of your washer, dryer, etc. The future is wonderful

[@ukraineball953]

People will just hack them to pirate a washing machine LMAO

[@patrickkennedy9178]

​​@@ukraineball953 you wouldn't download a washing machine

[@furinick]

What I'm confused by is them needing to do it noe, back in the day the plan was Make machine Sell machine Use sale money to make machine v2

[@jer1776]

@patrickkennedy9178 If I could I 100% would.

[@Benbroski92]

I'd love it if you'd do an extensive video on setting up home assistant. I was inspired by your video a few months ago with having your own camera setup with frigate. I had no previous knowledge on how to do anything like that, and after a solid two weeks of troubleshooting and installation and additional two weeks of physically installing cameras I finally have peace of mind that my parents have something that can monitor the outside of their home without the ability of any third party to shut them down or spy on them. It's their data and it should stay in their control. You're the best and I hope you and your team at FUTO, keep up the good work! I use Grayjay, your keyboard and the local voice chat option once I paid for them. It's open source software like this that gives me additional hope for taking control of our hardware and software.

[@NK-rk9wr]

Please make a Manual for setting it up. Maybe you should set up a website dedicated for doing it.

[@BrianButterworth-s4z]

I would appreciate that too.

[@MrMysteryMortal]

Or maybe start a second KZbin channel for these risky tech videos, e.g. called Rossmann Unsubscribe Protection, Rossmann Subscription Fuse, FU LG, or some other catchy name.

[@EldritchBumblebee]

@@MrMysteryMortalthis is my thought

[@kirito_4kirigaya944]

No home appliance should EVER be able to connect to the internet! Why do people insint with a smart home? Do they not learn from watching the Simpsons or any other movie or TV show or book that talks about this issue that could very well happen?! Like they warn us about this happening and we STILL do it like c'mon man. It's getting out of hand.

[@amaurapond]

People prefer convenience and ignorance rather than their own privacy nowadays

[@johnnyshinnichi1785]

@@amaurapond True.

[@frequentlycynical642]

@@amaurapond Many are also driven to have the latest and alleged greatest. They will even go into debt to do this.

[@tsiefhtes]

I love the idea of a smart home, but I want a self-contained one not this BS. Also what good is a smart appliance, I have no idea. Smart lights, home security,thermostat, locks and robo vacuum /lawn mower I get. I was really excited in 2018-2019 when a lot of this started to come out , I quickly lost enthusiasm one of the companies that developed these products got bought up by megacorps and became channels for collecting and selling personal data.

[@MadScientist267]

The world is full of an incredulous amount of stupidity.

[@brianbertine7037]

I think you should mention that all the politicians that buy LG products including past presidents will be giving all their personal data to LG to sell to people to use to blackmail them. This is actually a national security problem. They are so concerned about TicToc being owned by Chinese and using the data they collect, they should see that the LG, South Korean, products collect videos and layouts of their homes.

[@Lovesausage269]

How about my 23 year old fridge I can go to the GE website and order a $334 compressor for, vs my grandmothers LG that is 5 years old and they wanted $1200 for the compressor. She’s getting one like mine.

[@MrAlex3461]

Lovesausage

[@Denniss7420]

^This. My Bosch inverter for the compressor fails about every 2 years. Thankfully, one of the forums said the inverter was the same as the GE. Picked up the GE inverter which was 1/2 price of the Bosch!

[@TheInternetComplaintDepartment]

Two years ago I railed against a company making Internet connected WATER BOTTLES. I thought that was insane and dumb. It's only gotten worse...

[@tricitymorte1]

That's still insane and dumb.

[@1988nProud]

​@@tricitymorte1stole my thought😂. Are u LG in desguise?j/k.

[@tricitymorte1]

@@1988nProud No, I don't have their money.

[@robertsmith2956]

Does it tell you the PH and particulate level of the water inside? Maybe the temp? LOL

[@TheInternetComplaintDepartment]

@@robertsmith2956 LMAO, no sadly it's not anything that cool. It literally tells you when to drink water.

[@blackrifle6736]

*Home Assistant Installation, Setup and Use Guide: Just this year alone, literally hundreds of commenters on your many presentations have asked for this very thing. YES! please do. Hell, I'd pay you another Benjie for it. Love ya'!*

[@SeanShorten]

Louis, i would ABSOLUTELY LOVE for you to do a home assistant guide and a fully indepth one. Its something ive pondered a while, and would love to see your setup. please make it happen!!

[@Apollo-Computers]

I doubt he has one....

[@monotypical_]

Wait, you can’t even use a washing machine without your data being stolen? LMAO we’re in an actual dystopia

[@blackrifle6736]

*SpeedQueen TC5 series, TC5000 and TC5003 have none of that bull$hit. Never have and never will.*

[@moldyzucchinis3251]

Please, the guide would be amazing. As you know, privacy is a bit of a rabbit hole. Its highly overwhelming. I use some basic features but know im nowhere near where I’d like to be. Would be willing to pay for it tbh.

[@USAltefore]

Publishing a guide on how you set up your home network would be a godsend! You koi pond is gorgeous! Thank you for sharing. My day has improved!

[@MrAsiadream]

yes yes yes please

[@epagneul87]

"Look at how calming it is. I do not care at all about apple not making parts available looking at this" ROFL!

[@sabinrawr]

I don't just boycott ads, I make a conscious effort to avoid products and services that I see advertised, especially if the ad is unskippable.

[@TerrasClip]

Yes, please do this tutorial, I think it is important for people to know its even a possibility.

[@TheQuickSilver101]

Some folks in my family thought I was nuts when I replaced the barrel on my 20+ year old dryer instead of buying a new one. While this isn't the only reason this is a big reason. I want my washer to wash things and I want my dryer to dry things, I don't want them to collect information on me

[@VADemon]

I salute you.

[@Venom-p5m]

you can still buy "dumb" washing machines and dryers though. well you can in my country. cost about 200 euros or so for one.

[@xxxxOS]

​@user-fo5zv4ld4z are you dumb or something. Why would you be accepting of this lol you should be able to use the Internet without being scammed out of something.

[@vgamesx1]

I find those same people nuts for wanting to spend $1000 or more on a new washer/dryer set, not just because it's more expensive, but shopping, moving around both sets and setting them up is even more work which can take up an entire day, whereas fixing just one of them only takes about 2 hours if you know what you're doing, even less if its just a fuse/cut-off and you have easy access to it.

[@VADemon]

@@vgamesx1 Marketing makes us hyped up for shiny new things being reported on. That's why you should enjoy regular magazines and (in our case) reviews/benchmarks with caution. I've observed this in myself and see it in others.

[@nistarok123]

I would LOVE if you published this sort of extensive guide on how to automate your home, PRIVATELY.

[@iconqt9339]

A guide on how to set everything up as youve described would be incredibly helpful. I feel the need to protect your privacy is becoming more necessary, but like many, i dont have the knowledge to do the set up myself. A guide would be very helpful!

[@mikeselectricstuff]

How hard would it be to have a router in line with your internet connection to block all this, or maybe even just flood these companies with fake data- maybe something FUTO could get behind?

[@kopazwashere]

yeah I feel like a pihole could do this kind of filtering

[@alexv3780]

I was thinking the same, what if you could block all the telemetry and data collection. If those data are "multiplexed" with other communication data and cannot be blocked, then use the ID assigned by the manufacturer for data collection to sent extra random data and make those collected data useless for identification or ever better poison their AI training 😂

[@RobotWashingMachine]

10:25 PLEASE do a guide video! its super interesting to see all the different solutions out there! (also i feel like im on the same page when it comes to asking for help with linux) lol

[@sheiladavis2304]

Louis it makes me smile hearing the banter between you and your girlfriend at the pond at the end. You are so much happier being out of NYC. I didn't realize just how much until today. I think it literally added years to your life .👍😁

[@rossmanngroup]

Enjoy nature with fun, good people. Enjoying the basic happy things life has to offer makes it all worth it. The turtle, the fishy. Take time for the fishy. It isn't about New York vs. Texas. It was about finally taking the time to slow down and take the time to appreciate that it isn't 2008 anymore, and I'm not rubbing two LP154WP2-TLA1 together trying to afford rent on a place that isn't filled with termites

[@sya_7489]

lmfao the pinned porn bot was gone

[@felix6142]

if you wanna see it too, just write an email to LG

[@lawyer1165]

As a certified nontechie, I’d really like to see an extended video on how to set up home assistant because I refuse to connect thermostats, etc., to the Internet.

[@Soapy-chan]

I'm so glad that recently when I bought a washing machine with dryer combo I saw some with an app and was like, wtf why would I need that, and bought a normal one. Now I know what the app one would do.

[@C1TRU5]

As someone who already has a full homeassistant setup, I would 100% watch you go through yours

[@zoldyeck1]

I got one of these LG "smart" washing machine and i didn't even bother to have it connnected to the internet. It is a washing machine,

[@20NewJourney23]

Same with my mom. She bought one and within 6 months she had to call out a service tech to resolve the reason why it wasn't draining. She, thankfully, never connected it to the internet. So at least that isn't another issue she has to deal with. Why buy a smart washer if you never use its smart features? LOL It's asinine. Plus the liquid fabric softener section drains it into the wash with the detergent? Why? I don't freaking know. It's such a terrible machine.

[@flightlesschicken7769]

Smart move

[@JH-pt6ih]

Yeah, but they can force you to use the internet - isn't that what we are seeing more and more of - after the purchase forcing the internet connection. BTW - don't trust LG on their warranty - even when the admit your product is under warranty it can take you forever and be a hassle. I eventually tried even trying to get them to hold up their end of honesty and just took the loss and got rid of the TV.

[@tablettablete186]

@@JH-pt6ih Deco routers in a nuttshell... I am still salty about them

[@VADemon]

@@20NewJourney23 Why buy one?It's the one the store clerk recommended. We are at this point, I don't know where recommend to go shopping. Misleading product pages online or "reviews", overpriced inventory offline and shops that try to get rid of it.

[@xcofcd]

They gather data on your skidmarks and then the logarithm decides if you get ads for wet wipes or diapers...

[@โต้ง-ล3ต]

9:35 Please do make the guide how to set it up! I am currently researching how to do it myself, but I would love to see how you've set it up.

[@Nebekenazar]

My neck is starting to hurt under the weight of my tinfoil hat. Every time another company harvests my data from an appliance that shouldn't even have the ability to do so I add another layer. it's so goddamn heavy!

[@em0_tion]

Just get a Decoy Voice tinfoil beanie! 🤣

[@blackrifle6736]

@@em0_tion *Yes! Lightweight cloth do-rag*

[@amaurapond]

I'd love to see a home assistant guide! I'd never heard of it until you mentioned it in the video. Especially as more and more appliances and objects become "smart"

[@pauljs75]

Seems like a lot of times, the smarter choice is to have the "dumb" devices. No snooping, no B.S. app, no nonsense agreements, things just work. Also good to see the koi fish doing well, and the nutrient cycle is something to manage. More plants sounds like the right thing.

[@LocoFighterable]

If this is from the EU, that's actually illegal to do

[@JH-pt6ih]

It's from the U.S.

[@ukraineball953]

The person that first saw this is from the E.U.

[@ambiarock590]

It should be illegal in the US too but our government is disfuctional

[@jankoodziej877]

Source please.

[@LocoFighterable]

@@jankoodziej877 I do not post links in KZbin comments, just read through the GDPR and consumer protection laws after that. You'll find it in pretty much no time.

[@coolmarkz7153]

Yes please the guide on the home assistant is something that would be awesome to have, i have an idea of how to set it up but it would be much easier to see it from someone who actually has more experience than i do with linux.

[@sylvarogre5469]

Why would you even make a washing machine that connects to anything? It is a washing machine not a PDA.

[@parkamark]

It's becoming the norm. Louis was kind enough to make me aware of smart trainers which need an app to tighten the laces. And then they sent a firmware update and bricked the trainers. Anything and everything will be smart soon, and brick-able. I want to go back to the 80s - at least when you bought stuff then, it wasn't connected to anything, wasn't smart, and when you pressed a physical button, a physical process occurred under the hood, not some logic defined in firmware that's brick-able.

[@Marco_Onyxheart]

I would like my washing machine to turn on when the solar panels do. I don't need to upload anything for that, I just need an API that Home Assistant can use.

[@leonro]

​@@parkamarkYou can still avoid smart products. Thankfully (?), a good chunk of the world does not have internet access, which means that there's enough demand for products that will work without connecting to it unless it's a requirement of their design (like wifi routers or online games).

[@Denniss7420]

@@Marco_Onyxheart You can use smart plugs for that. And they can be tied to your network, not the cloud.

[@mikeweeartyom]

Yes, make a guide Louis, it would be very helpful.

[@MetalRenard]

A privacy safe home set up would be amazing. Privacy is the reason I haven't used most modern home gadgets.

[@robertsmith2956]

I was shocked at how much my firewall logs filled up when I plugged in the samsung tv. It was trying every dirty trick in the book to get out. I gave it one address, and it still wanted more. I blocked it again. I only have it networked so I can stream from my media server to it to watch movies. Using the hdmi output to the tv is to awkward The streaming interface is clean and easy to bring up a movie.

[@kaasmeester5903]

It can be done. To me, IoT is the InTRAnet of Things. 1) Buy smart stuff that does not need the cloud. Z-Wave / Zigbee devices are local by nature. Doorbird smart door bells can use their cloud but can function fully locally as well. Don't buy a Philips Hue set (Louis did a video recently on their bad practices), but their bulbs are good and work without their hub on your Zigbee system. 2) Be careful using networked devices like IP based cameras, and put them on a separate VLAN isolated from the internet. Connect them to a local hub. (Our cameras are physically powered off when we're at home). 3) Don't buy smart stuff when you don't need it. Your TV does not have to be "smart"; I prefer a dumb monitor connected to a device like nVidia Shield (that has its own problems but they are manageable). Appliances like fridges and washing machines derive very little benefit from being connected. Get dumb ones, or leave them disconnected from your network. If they need the network to function, return them for a refund.

[@robertsmith2956]

@@kaasmeester5903 The biggest problem is they don't tell you it must connect to them to work. Network means it has Ethernet, They don't say, but it only talks to US over your network. I'm looking at an ac compressor, shipping makes returns very difficult. Need to find out if it is networked, or needs companies network.

[@YHK_YT]

24:29 LOOOOOL

[@rossmanngroup]

It's on-theme with the video. Moral of the story; no matter how much of a paranoid schizo you are, there's somebody out there just as paranoid as you. And remember, you're not paranoid if they're actually after you

[@YHK_YT]

@@rossmanngroupI love that you included that in the video it’s genuinely so funny LOOOL, if that happened to me I’d be speechless

[@rossmanngroup]

​​@@YHK_YT I almost fell into the lake

[@KryzysX]

lmao, he fell in love

[@gustavofigueiredo1798]

Wow, I felt the bonding through the screen. That's a keeper.

[@10114crs]

I would genuinely like to have a home assistant tutorial. Thank you for all that you do, Louis.

[@MechaHeretic]

Am I the only one who clearly saw a turtle while Louis and Lady kept saying "fishy fishy fishy" a dozen times..... guys...... turtle.....

[@kingzach74]

I saw it too.

[@davidhunternyc1]

Louis, we must all look out for the best interests of each other. You do this in spades. My job here is to give your viewers the best alternative to these awful washing machines and dryers. People, when buying a washer and dryer you must go analog. No connectivity settings whatsoever and fewer parts to break. You must buy *Speed Queen* washer & dryer separates. They are the last great washing machine company standing. _Autobots unite! We must defeat the Decepticons!_

[@rossmanngroup]

YES!!!! how are you doing Sir? How's NY? How's work? Feel free to email & catch up! [e-mail]

[@ClearGalaxies]

Speed Queen

[@davidhunternyc1]

@@rossmanngroup I'm doing great, Louis. Thank you for asking. I hope Austin is treating you well. I've emailed you before but you're so darned busy to reply. I will email you again. Have I not come to you for advice about computers? You've been very helpful. So now, donate your LG to someone in need and go buy a Speed Queen TR5003WN !!! 🤣Stay awesome.

[@tricitymorte1]

I did buy a Speed Queen back in February 😂 just the washer though. My 13+ year old dryer is still running like a champ.

[@davidhunternyc1]

@@tricitymorte1 Hip Hip Hooray !!! Good for you !!! Not falling for this connected BS crap. Stay awesome.

[@Alias_Anybody]

I want a Rossman series on TVs that explicitly don't spy.

[@tricitymorte1]

The only ones that don't aren't connected to the internet.

[@jittertn]

He should launch a privacy certification company

[@jer1776]

The mid 2010s 46 inch TV that I recently bought at the GoodWill for $50 doesnt spy on me. 👍

[@itsdarkos]

I would love a video guide for a local home assistant setup or a general server setup!

[@joseconde8722]

Yes! Make the guide!!!

[@toastermicrowave]

Hey Louis, I was literally thinking before you said it would love if you did a full tutorial on home assist, how to find out which devices are compatible with it etc. Would also be nice I you made a searchable spreadsheet or text based document with a product name, and then three simple categories, Repairability, Privacy, and ownership (not having to pay subscriptions and actually owning the product/not having to see an AD), and then a date that way we can see what was the last date that you updated your listing for that product and if the company has changed their policies since then or you have made a new vide on that product.

[@charleshunt3806]

Yeah, could you please make a guide of the entire thing of how you set up your stuff in your home to not connect to the Internet except through like a VPN that would be super awesome and that’s what we need in this world

[@dave24-73]

Fisher & Paykel do the same thing. When they added wifi to the washing machine the purpose wasn’t to tell you when the wash was done, it was intended as a way they could collect data and sell it.

[@AL_O0]

I have a samsung dryer, apparently it has wifi, i haven't even considered the possibility of configuring that, nor will i ever do it after watching this

[@Marco_Onyxheart]

I would, but it's definitely going on my restricted NoT network that doesn't have internet access.

[@jessicav2031]

ETA until these things start using something like Amazon Sidewalk to collect data even if you don't connect it to wifi? Or maybe they are already?

[@bassandtrebleclef]

just don't connect it to the wifi.

[@Mo_Ketchups]

EVERYONE who sees this, if you SUB, you help Louis’s voice grow much louder, which will make companies LISTEN when he calls them out! 🤟✌️👌

[@Shawnlings]

if i saw the video title fifteen years ago, I'd probably laugh at the absurdity of it. Now, I find it sad.

[@lourensdejongh3798]

Hell Yes for the Home Assistant Guide! As long there is a cat, and a chair .... having some withdrawal symptoms

[@sihilius]

I will never buy any domestic appliances that even just have the ability to connect to the internet. If this gets standard, I'll cook with fire, wash my clothes in a bucket and dig out a cellar for keeping food cool. Or maybe build stuff myself.

[@anotheruser9876]

Please, PLEASE, show us the guide of the set-up.

[@SaucerX]

i can't even wash my clothes in peace now...

[@em0_tion]

There's hand-washing... Peace and muscles! 😂

[@Pointy_Bird]

"We don't kink shame here at Rossman Repair Group" iconic

[@anomishfish]

A Home Assistant guide would be really nice! I’m sure most of the less technically-inclined viewers aren’t willing to put the time and effort to cobble things together from several different poorly written how-tos in order to get something to work. So having a centralized video that goes over everything would be very helpful!

[@jonschaub7574]

Been a huge fan for years now and you never fail to crack me up - "If you enjoy others watching your spouse [being] with somebody else, that probably doesn't include your vacume cleaner!?" Keep doing what you do, for all of us.

[@seanb3516]

Gipple. How did you forget Gipple? Also, Seinfeld got tricked. His GF said her name rhymes with a part of the Female Body. What Dolores forgot was that ALL Humans have a Clitoris. Not just women. Should have called her Regina.

[@ThechronocrosserII]

Lmao, my friends just got a "Smart" refrigerator and I was like "WHY TF DOES REFRIGERATOR NEEDS TO BE SMART?"

[@jacktringoli3299]

So it can call you a fatass for eating do much ice cream Also ngl I'd love to see everything inside my fridge without having to get up and open the door and stare inside when I'm bored and hungry lol Doesn't need to be connected to the internet just locally cause I'm sure it would save me $15/mnth if I did not have to keep opening it hoping something new magically appears 😂

[@mpf1947]

@@jacktringoli3299 Just get a refrigerator with a glass door.

[@jer1776]

@mpf1947 Having a smart home is literally like having a house with glass walls

[@WeBuild4Life]

I just got an update on my LG wash - FYI lots of wash cycles are hidden behind the app. I was forced to accept the TOS change in order to use the app. Amazing!

[@user-cofee]

Mr. Rossmann I call you out. You do not replace the pond pump. You fix. 😅 Joking.. DO NOT repair a submerged pump.

[@seth4x4]

I'm 24 at this point, I've been watching your content for over a decade now. You have truly enriched my life thus far, thank you. I also thought you should know I've got all of Seinfeld on DVD, will back it up digitally soon to avoid disk rot.

[@sykoteddy]

Not to be negative, but I believe disk rot is more possible on disk drives than on DVD's. The files system ZFS is made specifically to combat disk rot. I've never used it myself since it's mostly enterprise companies using it and the support for it in Linux is not great. The easier way would probably be to have a digital copy on a hard drive within a Faraday bag, within a Faraday cage within.... you get my point. Also make sure to have a SHA256 of the ISO so you can check it and see if it is changed.

[@em0_tion]

Cool intention, now make it reality. Otherwise it's just an empty promise to yourself. 😉 Don't you hate liars? 😂 Otherwise, multiple backup spots for incredibly sensitive information is my go to: DVDs + SSDs + HDDs + Cloud. Many methods are hard to keep up, but two copies are still better than only the single last one. 👏👍

[@alsavage1]

@@sykoteddy I feel the support for ZFS in Ubuntu is great. I've been using ZFS with Ubuntu for at least six years.