This Lucio Was Accused Of Not Healing Enough... What Really Happened? | Overwatch 2 Spectating

[@cyborgspaceman]

Reading the intro: "Oh, don't tell me this is another Lucio rapidly switching between speed and healing inappropriately..." After 15 seconds of gameplay: 🗿

[@GeninGeo]

dont worry if i tap heal i may heal 3 hp per person max (if it even ticks that fast idk) but if i sit on speed my team may or may not stand still and i get a ton of value this way.

[@jokersgirll]

The swapping back after healing for less than one second is killing me.

[@KumoriLove]

It was killing their team, too.

[@bantam8893]

"I cant get out of gold after 9 seasons" sir, 0.4 seconds of healing isnt helping a single person. Should've figured that out after the first season

[@TheShapingSickness]

Two ultimates in 20 minutes.

[@Nexusquo]

It’s the speed to “help someone back up” but it’s like backup to where? Speed to help them get around a corner is one thing but like 114 times he’s speeding down a long lane where he could’ve just kept them alive with heal boost lol

[@Da5kone001]

@@Nexusquo its a lot harder to aim when someones speed is changing mid fight flashing speed/healing is really common across any lucio you watch you just have to know when to do it

[@JulianneTheChemistryStudent]

I don't understand how he can be staring at his teammates in critical health and stay on speed! Then wonder why they're telling him to heal more??? And he thinks they're wrong after he has been stuck in silver/bronze for 9 seasons?????? Bruh

[@emilygrzy388]

genuine tip for newer lucios; if you can safely position yourself to boop an enemy into your team instead of booping them away, that can often grant your team a free squishy kill, especially if you are aware of who can and cannot escape!

[@growingtogether35]

Zen kicks!

[@Diskostix]

This is why I always boop ulting reapers further into my team!

[@KujiArgisia]

@@Diskostix that sounds dangerous

[@AaronWOfficial]

Very good tip, in fact sometimes I will go behind a sigma and kick him through his shield as zen if I see his team is not with him. They get very annoyed by this, often flaming me in chat XD

[@AaronWOfficial]

@@Diskostix That is the best thing to do as lucio, tactical reset. If reaper is guaranteed to kill 2 players, might as well boop him into ur team to kill all of you and reset XD. Less ult charge for the enemy team :P

[@mitchelbont9788]

his team being low hp and him only SPEED BOOSTING is KILLING ME

[@TheBuildMiner210]

He is trying to get them to kill themselves faster it seems

[@YuiAstin]

I bet it kills his teammates too

[@woofnoble]

This guy LOVES frogger but doesn’t understand why frogger is considered good at the game

[@ireallydontknow278]

Yeah I've found that the forger Lucio play style really doesn't work in low ranks Since as a low rank connoisseur I know this

[@thecasualgamer2811]

I love frogger, can't understand why he's good, can't really play Lucio so I play mercy/Juno/ana. Can you explain what makes frogger so good when he has been reported enough on his Steve account I saw his warning screen?

[@tolerableAiluros]

@@thecasualgamer2811 he is good at lucio, he just likes to troll a lot lmao

[@Nexusquo]

@@thecasualgamer2811watch the way he plays in ranked vs his owcs gameplay lol

[@bensux2946]

@@thecasualgamer2811Well he’s genuinely one of the best support players, ever. His mechanics and game sense is insane, and when he dives people there’s an 80% chance he kills them and easily gets out. A bronze lucio cannot do anything close to what he does. And a lot of the content he posts is him trolling, although looking at his league play shows how good he is!!

[@almangar01]

They heard one streamer say Lucio's job isn't to heal, it's all about movement and they took it to heart. They have the golf healing mentality, the lower the heals the better the score.

[@DRandR1productionz]

im never usually critical of people looking for help to improve but watching this was so frustrating seeing him just frantically switch between speed and heals with no thought process at al

[@reallyfastturtle3272]

Especially since in Frogger's guides he actually says that the constant swapping between speed and heal boost is a really bad thing. He says not to do this

[@Al-Sahem-Al-Ghul]

Man used almost every single boost on speed. This is first time I've yelled at my screen while watching one of these...

[@dash4800]

yep, even when his team was standing in the choke at 50% health . . .

[@ilkkuPvP]

The most annoying part was to see him speed boost the Ram on the last fight on last round. He could have gotten beat, if he had heal boosted the Ram instead. Also there was only like 10 secs left on time, so nowhere to speedboost to really.

[@krautgazer]

@@ilkkuPvP Yeah, that ALSO PISSED ME THE HELL OFF TO NO END. Last freaking fight. He's close to getting his ult. He dies with 87% ult charge. I'm not gonna do the math, but I'm pretty damn sure he would have gotten the missing 13% if he had heal boosted instead of speed boosting there. Speed boosting to WHERE, exactly??? The team cannot go back at that moment, because it's the LAST FREAKING FIGHT, so they have to stand in the payload. If the intention was to speed boost to the end of the match, then I guess he was successful.

[@albywood3607]

as a lucio main, this playstyle is so crazy to me! rapidly switching between speed and healing makes no sense lol.

[@PrimarinaBay]

Same, only way this guy could've made it worse is by having Jazzy equipped, spamming crossfade with that one on is even more dreadful, haha

[@DiaNuclear]

Yeah I haven’t played Lucio since OW1 n this is not the way. They gotta use the amp with at least 2-3 ppl in their aura and when they do amp start with speed then finish it off with heal

[@LogisticSleet8]

i'm convinced he's got that setting on where you have to hold the button to use the heal instead of just toggling it

[@xd3athclawx554]

surely if you constantly switch you will be healing and speed boosting your team, riiiiiight??

[@growingtogether35]

Macro enabled

[@dash4800]

People need to submit a screenshot of the numbers afterwards. With as much as this dude was swapping I can easily see him having ultra low healing. Flipping back to healing for 1 second does about 0 healing for the team, you have to let it sit and actually heal people a bit. If youre gonna do that then why even bother with healing ever at all?

[@Koselill]

Yeah Lucio healing does 16 per second. So he's literally doing 16 healing every time he swaps to healing for a second before he swaps to speed for 10-20 seconds...

[@HeyItsAmandaJ]

"My dps did okay but I guess they could've died less" Lucio literally only speed boosting...

[@kwa_0-0_dontcallmeakid]

pov frogger:

[@SawyerFools]

Lol yup. So many lucios (me included) want to play like that but just can't. I only try in qp though.

[@kwa_0-0_dontcallmeakid]

@@SawyerFools lol-

[@thecasualgamer2811]

I can kinda play a minor dps Lucio, but I main mercy, Juno and ana. In that order. 700ish hours 75 on mercy. More often than not I don't even die on mercy​@@SawyerFools

[@FishyBeard]

frogger is my dad

[@novalytyxp]

I think I saw someone make a point in another video too that what Frogger posts isn't how he plays Lucio 100% of the time, but when he can. A lot of the times, bc of meta, he's still with the team and taking peels when able, and then have those rare opportunities to really DIVE in, which makes it to videos. I think that's the best way to play Lucio, is to keep that "tempo" of moving around for our little beats man.b

[@ajaya653]

Not enough usage of heals and also not doing enough damage. So many opportunities to do damage but they’re not putting themselves in a position to damage.

[@pretty.billy.]

I feel like the whole “wait a tenth of a second and just make sure your teammates are okay” is such GOOD advice

[@FishyBeard]

I’ll take this advice to heart. :D

[@lumintroll]

A wild Billy has been spotted

[@pretty.billy.]

@@lumintroll ‼️😧 Aki! 🥹

[@lumintroll]

@@pretty.billy. found you >:D

[@Kaggles-ih3pu]

Even when more than 2 teammates are in a critical state, this dude isn't healing while playing a hero with AOE healing ability

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

Tip: when holding a choke such as the 3rd point where you team doesn't dive the enemy best to stay on heal rather than speed for the majority. No need for speed unless you move

[@Darrakkii]

i can't stand lucios who pretend their entire kit is speed boost, like yeah dude its a huge part but another huge part is healing after the speed boost and you literally need to be right next to your teammate to do anything so going to help a random dps flank is literally killing your teammates faster

[@whiteshadowzx]

I miss the Twitch chat box in your videos. I liked seeing their reactions to certain plays/suggestions.

[@zeos26]

I wish they would just put the team healthbar UI on the screen when you are playing support

[@cbardis]

I believe that they don't realise you need to leave heals on to top health bars up, cause they switch off way too quick, even when it was the only job that needed doing.

[@Ek-qc9ch]

The immediate speed heal switching was enough for me, but then they didn’t even get beat until they damn near lost 1st and 2nd point

[@miguelwilliams1291]

This is GREAT content!! I’ve recently come back to the game after quitting when Overwatch 2 first launched, and I would’ve benefited so much from this type of educational coaching vid. Always been a big fan, but this has me excited to make a return to the game. Thank you so much!!!

[@ApeEscapeLover]

He isn't spamming the button, he has crossfade set to default speed and only swaps to healing when he holds shift (like it's not a toggle).

[@ttheenderr]

Seeing the lucio mostly speeding and only a split second of heals tells me the lucio has the hold crossfade to heal setting on

[@AndresD.deLeon]

Frogger: "And I took this video title personally"

[@lumines.6622]

ah to be emongg projected onto an old timey television

[@Chaos706]

I’ve been playing Lucio lately, problem is I don’t know how to play other than diving back line then jumping back to heal. So I often either pendulum swing from no healing or to much healing. I’ve been trying to learn how to play better. This video helped

[@berniechoy5482]

They watch too many frogger videos lol

[@kiracoon]

Frogger is why I even picked up Lucio but my god I understand that I ain’t him got to play to my strengths lol

[@MID-CRISIS27]

​@@kiracoon same !!

[@ireallydontknow278]

Yeah I think too many people try to be like frogger and thus it means it results in a 4v5 because most ranks can't really use the frogger Lucio effectively Like of you play frogger Lucio in like bronze to probably even Plat lobbies then he probably isn't going to work out too well due to the fact lower ranks don't really know how to use the frogger Lucio to his strengths For example just today I met a frogger Lucio on the enemy team Bro tried to jump Me and got his shit pushed In (then again I was echo and happened to land like 5 stickies on him ) but still

[@stevegelec]

As a support main watching made me anxious… 😂

[@AaronWOfficial]

1 Important trick I see a lot of lucio's not doing, is using speed boost to get a low hp squishy out of danger. Sometimes amp healing won't be enough to save them if the enemy burst is very high damage, while a speed amp can get them out of danger and then they can go quickly grab a health pack to stabilise and get back into the fight. I am mostly using speed on lucio, I only amp heal for aoe healing situations when my co-support is overwhelmed with having to heal multiple targets. I tend to use amp exclusively for speed boost 90% of the time, it is a bigger advantage than you think it is in your head. You just have to be aware of your teams overall hp pool, and decide do they need heal amp or are you good to use speed amp. Using amp to heal 1 target is a waste when you can use it to speed them out of danger while also granting your team a speed buff. Lucio gets far more ult charge from spamming damage, booping and meleeing people, going for environmental kills etc. Go and look at how frogger plays lucio, and take note of how often he is on speed song. You can be an absolute menace on lucio when you are on speed 90% of the time, very hard to hit and annoying af. I have literally griefed a mercy and moira back line and farmed them like this, and moira is supposed to be a lucio counter... The only time amp heal gives good ult charge is when most of your team are low, only time you should be using heal amp or it is just a waste. Let your other support heal that 1 target, so they can get some ult charge. Stylosa if you ever seen his overanalyzed content before he quit making that content says it best "always think about what provides the best value". 5 high speed targets on a long cooldown vs 1 healed up target on a long cooldown which your other support could have healed up easily, which is better value ;). If that target dies because your other support forgets to heal them, that is on them and not on you. You are aoe healing, they aren't. Even moira that is technically an aoe healer, can provide good burst healing with heal orb and spray.

[@joohnas]

At least he is not using that jazz skin...

[@Mr_Rat_Man_725]

Why did I have a feeling this would be a spectating frogger vid

[@shioramenrabbit]

Yeah. The swapping thing is a nervous habit that you need to break. If you're always fiddling back and forth it first of all puts you in situations where it takes you extra time to amp appropriately, and it's going to be annoying any teammate of yours that's on an aim hero. When I'm on Ana I cannot tell you how annoying it is to have a lucio going speed/unspeed/speed/unspeed next to me while I'm trying to flipping aim. I already have to be juggling heal/damage/projectile/not projectile, I don't need a button fiddler adding a sixth dimension of annoyance.

[@mannyj5862]

Not enough Lucio vid im sending some tonight

[@adalinepassionfruit6033]

This guy saw one video of master/grandmaster lucio going crazy, and decided he is him.

[@calebweaver7385]

I play Lucio primarily and I switch to speed boost seldomly. Normally just stay with the group and keep the heals on constant. Use the heal boost when your team mates hit critical. All about timing. And save ultimate for countering ults. Lucio is 99% about timing your abilities. For healing at least. Speed boost to get your teammates where they need to be. I’ve found it best though to just keep heals up all the time. The way I see it, every bit of heals helps the team and beefs up my numbers 😅 but yeah the best Lucios are watching the flow of the battle and using there abilities to keep the team up. Plays come few and far between. Best offensive play to make as a Lucio is booping people off the map or even just off your teammates when critical.

[@WastelanderSky]

Seeing them rapidly switch between heal and speed gave me flashbacks to that one Lucio

[@crazykiller-qh9jn]

Going Lucio when having a sigma as a tank is already smooth brain by itself

[@Zeywerks]

22:55 you can literally see the mental process of "hmm my tank is blocking slowly losing health buttttt, I could boop this Brig."

[@samhamwich518]

I thought going on the sojourn was fine because they used slide, no one else was looking at him, and the moment he leaves it gets the Bap killed. If anything he should’ve committed a little longer.

[@FishyBeard]

Ah yeah. I think i might’ve jumped down cause I saw that the sojourn had rail but I think you are right. Just staying up there and try to dodge rail was the right call since my baptiste died to the rail.

[@shotjon2957]

He’s stimming hard with that constant switching my god

[@emmdeekaysays173]

Never thought I'd see someone heal less than frogger

[@MegaMoma]

The repair (Jay) is in alot of these videos. He needs his own spectating video at this point.

[@ntdscherer]

He mostly seems to do things just to do them, rather than doing things that will help the team

[@Yazdazkafrazzz]

They have a great idea of how to use speed but don’t realize that Lucio is great into poke comps because he can just sit on heal until you have the opportunity to speed your team in. This guys has the right idea but just is too focused on being told to “always be on speed”.

[@WiseguyPrime]

Lucios need to take more pride in building Sound Barrier fast. Viol3t is an incredibly aggressive support, but he heals and damages so much, he consistently is the first support to ult.

[@someGuy-kl7cb]

the ONLY time you should be spamming your crossfade is when your juking a 1v1 fight, otherwise your just making it difficult for your allies to do stuff since your messing up their aim. crossfade spam is to make your movements unpredictable, so when you don't NEED to be unpredictable, don't be. at least don't be near allies while your doing it, the last thing your teammates want is for their OWN movement to be unpredictable. you can correct your aim since you control the crossfade, they cannot.

[@Xratos1991]

This is mind melting. Are people really this bad at Lucio? I mean who told this person using rapid fire on your health/speed button would help your team?

[@anyaluisa]

to passando mal com ele trocando a cura em menos de um segundo kkkkkk

[@miggyluv]

Note to editor: don't forget to zoom out a bit at the end so we can see chat saying goodbye to KZbin. I love that bit. Lol.

[@kallistad.2975]

As a Lúcio main, I can see where this player is trying to take their plays and what they’re trying to do and unfortunately also the advice I know they’ve heard 😂 I think most Lúcio mains have the “I’m a speed character” phase lol

[@JamisonGarfunkel]

22:56 dude free boops everywhere cmon man just go for it

[@spacecowboy7193]

Man, I don’t know if it works this way on PC, but on console if my aim and movement speed was varying constantly I’d never be able to hit a shot. If we’re just poking, just heal.

[@Songbird1117]

As another Lucio main... Watching this hurts-

[@nostalgjc1]

seeing the lucio refuse to heal during that last fight at the end made me so annoyed

[@kylejacobs1247]

Could have had beat for every mei ult just by using the last part of amp for healing on the sigma.

[@Battleress2]

i feel like this lucio believes their heal (and maybe speed) has a bit of an over-time effect after using it (a la moira healing) 😅

[@metallikalm4336]

Using amp at speed is basically not good if you are in 5v5, unless everybody is in VC and rush comp. It can be good for kill confirm or saving your team, if there is gap in numbers or ultimate. Amp is roughly second ultimate. Don't waste it.

[@aepokkvulpex]

Once this person realizes speed boosting doesn't give ult charge they'll do amazing

[@lruddy8820]

this lucio also just boops for the sake of booping, you see him roll in boop and then roll out, he focused down their ana didnt try to shoot her or melee her at all just booped her and wallrided away or he would go in and boop the team backwards when no team fight was going on

[@A_person_on_this_app]

Where do you send clips?

[@deadlynn7774]

I used to heal too much on Lucio I’m currently finding that balance lmao

[@FishyBeard]

Hey! This is me from the video. I just went from silver to plat in over a week since this video. I’d says you want to stay on heals if the team isn’t planning to move or just wanting to sit and poke. When your team has an advantage (such as getting a pick), look at your teammates. If your teammates are moving forward and want to go in, this is where you speed amp. Obviously for me, I had to heal more and thats what got me to balance both heal and speed correctly. I am still speeding my teammates in of course. It doesn’t mean I’m on heals 24/7. It’s really all about the situation.

[@deadlynn7774]

@@FishyBeard thank you for this I will try to keep these things in mind when I play

[@PaulyV93]

Looks like they have hold to cross fade for heals imo

[@Brandon_1992]

Imagine one tricking a hero for 9 seasons and still don’t know when to heal your team mates 😂

[@DRandR1productionz]

22:51 your tank is low and you dont heal AT ALL?! of course they accused him of not healing enough he isn't healing AT ALL in so many instances

[@proda7696]

It triggered me so much

[@ireallydontknow278]

Yeah I definitely feel like if someone is low even a frogger Lucio should heal em Sure if the other support is right there then it's maybe not required (though it would probably be better ) but if it's just you and a tank then you should definitely heal

[@TheShapingSickness]

3:33 I literally asked myself the same question 😂😂😂

[@GeninGeo]

if ur playing lucid and you wonder how ur gonna get value stand in the center of your team and afk heal only speed swap when you have a reason to people always take chip in this game. you give everyone 10 extra effective health every second any time they take damage. They all can poke better cause they arent as worried about hp. You can help break barriers or damage the enemy tanks or flankers or u can spam into a wall in a choke that the enemy has to 100% pass and make them scared that they are gonna get tripple head shot from lucio spam. at some point this may stop working but not in low ranks.

[@GeninGeo]

9:37 this man sees his tank on life support eventually he switches to healing uses boost then says not my problem and goes off on a journey to try to pick enemies. i only healed the tank to 35% but idgaf.

[@GeninGeo]

Idk what this streamer is doing either hes trying to be too nice or he doesn't see the plays (which i don't think is happening) or hes trying to make sure that hes not a downer dog-pileing the guy but hes just not calling out a ton of important stuff in this and other videos. I think a lot of of his advice is good and a lot of it is not applicable to the rank and games hes watching so he gives advice that is good in general but really bad for the situation of the game he is watching. (I think i'm referring to an anna vod where he told the anna not to stand in the middle of a lane when she need that los to even have a chance at healing her out of position tank. But she was mostly dps anna that game. the tank went around two corners in front of the enemy spawn idk what the map is called the anna went around one of the corners and he said why are you out in the open when not 1 person except the anna was visible in that lane. sure she could have held a safer position but that position being scared of a widdow that didnt even know they were there and you didnt even know if they had wasnt worth losing the tank even if they were positioned badly cause that loses you the point.)

[@GeninGeo]

hes also scared of being wrong and looking stupid once the play develops (the streamer.) but he is making the right call in the moment so hes hedging alot of what he says.

[@GeninGeo]

17:27 is the best play from the player in this and the previous round and the streamer giving advice.

[@GeninGeo]

Man doesnt even heal to keep himself alive (probaly the healing passive bad design imo) none the less others.

[@Darksouls3600]

That guy think he can be frogger in low tier...

[@ShadowKing-vs9cx]

He most likely has hold to crossfade on

[@RuleInsanity]

Lucio OTP.. What's his ship? I wanna know his one true pairing lol

[@FishyBeard]

I ship him with me :D

[@WeZ8ball2]

that switching between healing and speed was ssssoooooo triggering....

[@WeZ8ball2]

tbh this deserved a flats review... HHHEEELLLLOOOOOWWWW?????? HHHEEELLLLOOOOOWWWW?????? .... your to nice dude @emongg

[@Maylindotxd]

this play style was actually so annoying😭 i’m not the best lucio in the world but i’m def more aware and input good value to my team

[@FalconHeight-sj3cc]

I have a feeling he has hold shift to swap to heals on

[@FishyBeard]

I do! I just keep forgetting to turn that option off Dx

[@FalconHeight-sj3cc]

@@FishyBeard I'm sure you'll find you have a lot more control over your game and you will get a lot more ult charge faster when you play with it off!

[@zachariahcoughlin7915]

I should mention that youre floorcio. You tend to skid around on the floor so often and you have to be able to sit on heal for a bit instead of bouncing back n forth because then it helps no one.

[@scheaepling1341]

Wow that was frustrating to watch.

[@rokkalombardi2196]

I keep yelling at him to heal in vain its painful

[@joshuaraver8744]

Heal really is primary. Speed is, gaslighting.

[@shaker99]

U know catigory of healer whitch have less health and aloooot of dmg support yea lucio is one of them like bap zen moira and maybe mayby juno

[@roieatuar6645]

Honestly on first point unless you are some god Lucio I don't see the benefit of playing Lucio on defense at all.. the team benefit so much more from staying alive with max heals and holding that choke

[@Oreyee]

You say it's rare, but I find that in silver DPS Lucios are a dime a dozen

[@liamjames2956]

I’m surprised this guy managed to hold onto gold for 9 seasons…

[@FishyBeard]

fast forward one week from this video, I’m just hit plat for the first time! Woo!

[@liamjames2956]

@@FishyBeard congrats!

[@Koselill]

Im not sure if I ever saw him heal boost... This guy has no idea why he's swapping back and fourth and the 16 healing he does when he randomly swaps for a second to healing, means absolutely f all. Its like a drop of healing in the pool of damage. And the fact that he dares to say he doesnt understand why they're saying he does no healing 😭Also I dont like to be super picky on aim, but this guy is not really hitting any shots.

[@jevvy3295]

lowkey think bro trolling lmaooo

[@nicholaskling1813]

This has got to be a console player with heal/speed on a button toggle

[@manuelhuttner6362]

Frogger syndrom

[@chase0373]

As a Lucio main, if you’re learning I’d rather you use speed too much and learn to weave in heals where possible. Using heals too much puts you in the scenario where you aren’t really in control of the game, you have very little impact.

[@Koselill]

Ahh yeah he had A LOOOT of impact in this game, right?

[@moleethedon]

Yeah, you're barely healing your team, bro. Like 3 minutes in and he still didn't build up beat 💀

[@CrayonEater5000]

The first issue was being a Lucio OTP

[@Waffl3B1T]

ALRIGHT SO!!!

[@blankdoesntlos]

this lowkey tilted me. I'm okay. Heal better. Kills are nice but learning to play around enemy abilities and gaining game sense will carry you.

[@craig361]

id say flats usually has good takes but I remember for a bit he was saying in every rank if you Play Lucio its for his speed not his heals. he just couldn't understand that people in low ranks do not make value off speed so for a bit he was spreading what I'm gonna call misinformation that a lot of Lucio's have took to their heads

[@thecasualgamer2811]

Your chair cost $2k? 😳😳 Does it at least heat and massage? Edit: check the description if you think i pulled this outa the air. I just wondered what mic he uses...

[@supermercado6848]

Not that I'm any good.. but I don't understand all these vids of people playing support who just watch their teammates die over and over... Watching your team constantly not at full health and just ignoring them baffles me.

[@trav8787]

Definitely shouldn't be in silver There were many times the tank was low and the player amped speed boost instead of amping healing.

[@mr.parker8014]

Too much healing imo

[@FishyBeard]

based!

[@XarronChaos]

Every time I read the title "This (champion name) was accused of not healing enough" then it must means they were healing but the team be thinking they are Superman when they not even a low level thug to the point they dive in to the enemy and blame the support for not pocketing them as they dive

[@Darrakkii]

who tf enjoys spamming their cooldowns? how are they enjoying playing the game wtf? their constant speed boosts also throws off their and their teammates aim when they just spam it back and forth

[@kutiyamas]

I’d love to see a “where are they now” video for this person eventually!!! Def feel like they could climb