THIS might cause us to get a NEW ENGINE! | 2008 CBR1000RR Street Fighter Build - Day 8

[@dpinval]

Brian is the only reason I watch these. The amount of knowledge he has is incredible. Thank you sir for sharing that knowledge with us.

[@Meifesto]

Same :)

[@aashirwadtripathy1113]

I am loving this engine rebuild thing....I won't mind even if the videos are 2 hours long....I would still watch it....Eye candy for sure this is...

[@JarrettWilliam]

OC-build ....Brian's wisdom mixed with Chase's stress from the cost of the build rising by the episode are a magical sight to behold

[@imsleeping5947]

Real talk this exactly what I’ve been looking for. Gives me a really good idea of my bikes engine. Y’all don’t realize people pay 10s of thousands of dollars for this knowledge. Any mechanic appreciates this stuff

[@blatherama]

OC--Rebuild, because your pain gives me life.

[@HoosierMan34]

To the entire WBR Crew: The work you guys put into this is SO EDUCATIONAL I know have a better understanding of motors now that I'v eseen these videos.... Thank You to Brian for giving his time to convey information to people who want to know about motorcycles. Keep Up the great work fellas!

[@clint_a_210]

OC - Rebuild. The level of detail involved is interesting. Very educational. Brian is the ultimate teacher. Only downside is really long episodes, to which I'm learning to adjust. I just can't give it my undivided attention for 50 minutes straight.

[@mikegyver6265]

OC - I would love to see a full rebuild. These hour long episodes are amazing!! Loving the content

[@michelhadid]

Lil-tip, Any 2012-2017 year cbr1000rr engine Will Fit a 08-11, have a 2016 engine and dash on mine! Nothing needs adapting except splicing one cable for neutral switch, straight bolt-on

[@paulwood7798]

Rebuild, these last few vids have been the best ever Chase. The joy of watching Brian at work is quite incredible to watch.

[@sultansingh9770]

29:25 one thing that was absolutely necessary was a Tappet hole protector tool. It prevents the valve spring compressor tool from scratching the inner bore of tappet hole. The rotating part always makes contact with the inner surface of the bore and scratches the bore. That's why you shifted from the big dia adapter to the small one. Also there's nothing scary about a worn out valve guides. All you need to do is repalce all of them along will all 16 valves. I had worked on CBR1000rr SC59 on which I had replaced all 16 valve guides. It's always better to replace guides than to replace the head entirely...

[@btherealbb]

OC: rebuild. I would find enjoyable to learn more about this engine. With that being said. Whatever you decide. I support 100%. Much love to all of y’all in the garage!

[@carlnewstrand9408]

Shout out to Revzilla for supporting you. I have been following Revzilla for several years and I don’t even have a bike now. I have owned three in years gone by and plan to get another one as money becomes available. Great job guys.

[@reecestanford426]

OC: rebuild, you dont know what has happened to a replacement motor, I had crank bearing failure on my 2016 MT-07 (FZ-07 in 'murica) due to adding a pit limiter and launch control so i put a second hand engine in and that failed after a couple months so i had it rebuilt and not had an issue since. Besides, seeing an engine being rebuilt is a pure artform to me

[@uscgmike86-86]

I rebuild cylinder heads (diesel)... to replace the guides you have to heat the heads in an oven to over 300° while soaking the valve guides in liquid nitrogen (metal compresses and expands with temp) then, VERY QUICKLY, set the valve guide in to the correct depth and let cool down... if there's even a SPEC of dust in the cylinder bore or guide the guides get stuck and you have to press it out and start all over lol! Its a pain in the ass and yes, very expensive... just find another engine... there's too much money involved between the crank being scored and pistons being trashed oil pump etc. Just buy another one. Still fun to watch though!

[@timothybayliss6680]

I have done it once on a crank bearing. I put the crank in the freezer as cold as it would go and put the bearing in the oven at 200°. It dropped right on with no hammering and it wouldn't budge in a couple seconds. It actually really surprised me because I had to cut the old bearing race off.

[@Tashin32]

Welcome to back to "As the engine blows..."

[@Blad3r_03]

seriously this rebuild series is one of the best things to watch on KZbin right now! Thank you for awesome entertainment and knowledge.

[@alexvondergulasch1500]

OC : good video, i would probably buy a new used engine myself BUT for educational purposes a full rebuild would be awesome.

[@oldsklrt1]

I just watched the entire video! Take my advice my friend and source a used engine. Purchase a 2012- 2016, low mileage engine from a reputable dealer. Takes connections to get a crate engine from Honda and very expensive. CBR1000RR Forum can assist. Don't roll the dice on this engine. Prior owner was not diligent about taking care of this machine. Good luck!😎

[@Meifesto]

OC ; If you decide to get a new engine.. Could you get this one back together and run it to see how far away it really was from a blown up engine.

[@weeleedood]

YOU GUY’S REALLY ARE ANGELS FROM HEAVEN I LOVE WHAT YOU GUYS DO AND THAT’S WHY I DECIDED TO SELL YOU GUYS MY CBR300 FOR SO LOW DUE TO THE FACT I KNEW YOU GUYS WOULD FO SOMETHING AMAZING WITH IT AND NOT LET IT ROT AWAY A MILLION THANKS AND BLESSINGS I LOVE THE CONTENT SUPER AND HILARIOUS💯💯🙏🏻

[@saltyprocrastinator]

Thank you so much for taking the time to teach and show us this detailed breakdown. Absolutely priceless! Love drinking coffee or even eating lunch while I sit down for the entire episode!

[@evansolomon169]

First time I've sat through an entire WBR video in a very long time. You guys did a great job on this episode. Not a lot of corny jokes on Chase's part and not a lot of holier-than-thou attitude from Brian. It was very interesting to see a careful disassembly of the valve train. See what the machine shop says in regards to the guide issue before buying a used engine. It would suck to disassemble another one just to find more problems.

[@troyhilliard5390]

There is just something about watching a master at work.

[@SweDownhill]

I'm never going to become a bike mechanic, but this is both mesmerizing and such a learning experience! 😃 Thanks guys ❤️

[@conwayfiddy4908]

How do you even eat up a valve guide in that many miles? I think this motor has way more miles that you think.

[@leozinhosozinho]

Maybe race engine swapped to new street body? I’m guessing selling a decent body with engine problems and swapping the decent engine in to be abused again is cheaper than buying a new engine alone

[@Florian24]

Please do a quick summary of all the damages you guys found. I like the technical videos lately

[@brianmeuse7595]

Remember to protect your bucket slide with a piece of PVC. The spring compressor can damage cam journals as well.

[@indegoadult]

Great episode breaking down the internals of the head - thanks for putting yourself through that pain for us.

[@MrKamechan]

From what I remember, that generation of 1000RR's had an oil burning problem, too, (-among others). I believe '08s and '09s had the most issues. This bike was not built to Honda's usual standards. Also believe the swingarm pivot does not have enough frame material around it and can deform over time.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

OC - I'd honestly go try find a good used option. I think it'd be easier for you in the long run!!

[@friendlyrando4092]

I like how Brian pointed out how the bike would go to auction and someone would buy and replace the engine because that is one of the routes I may take when it comes to buying an 07-08 GSX-R 1000.

[@DSC71789]

Thank you for the long format episode.

[@tony3386]

Great episode, I rebuilt a head years ago, this brought back many memories, though I had no where near as many problems as you have had, keep up the good work

[@saiziman]

at 15:00 bryan should explain why the coil rotation oh the 2 inlet springs if opposite.

[@RoadUser_Motovlog]

One time on a school trip to the Mugello circuit we spoke to a former MotoGP mechanic, he told us that rough surfaces are better because they "trap" fluids, and those trapped fluids work as some sort of "lubricant" since a fluids that slides on itself has barely any friction, so it would flow faster (hopefully i've explained this well enough, i'm good at english but not so good at technical stuff). Also, good thing you had an old school valve extractor tool: i went to a mechanic school and we had a tool similar to that only pneumatic..one day a 1st year kid left his thumb between the valve and the stud, when he started pushing at the other end to expose the valve stem you can pretty much imagine what happened..i didn't see it happening but he almost lost his finger..

[@indegoadult]

That is generally in relation the the cylinder sleeves you want them to keep oil in the sleeve so its not perfectly smooth but kind of rippled, they showed and spoke about it in a couple of episodes back.

[@RoadUser_Motovlog]

@@indegoadult that's cylinder lubrication, the engine oil serves that purpose..i'm talking about something more like fluid dynamics

[@bios_75]

Loving the in-depth stuff guys. Keep up the great work.

[@VeeFour]

OC Tricky choice. If I was building a bike for myself I'd buy a new (2nd hand) engine, but as you're sending this to a supporter of your chanel then you need to know the engine is good, and a Brian rebuilt engine will give you that piece of mind. In the latter situation, I'd maybe look at buying refurbed head and rebuild the bottom end as per your plans 🤔

[@cliff8675]

OC - I did the buy option back in 84 with a CBX, so I'm hoping to see the guides replaced and the head transformed to dream bike levels.

[@balkor2]

I could not do this for a living... BUT this is the kind of ISH I would love to participate on!!

[@zackarybrown6752]

OC- rebuild if possible. Also put time stamps on these videos so they can easily be used by schools and students. I know my college would use them extensively.

[@briandagostino7009]

Is it wrong that I want them to have to buy a new engine? I would love to see them disassemble another engine and rebuild it... again!

[@321Misfits]

I heard we can swap a 2012 motor in it which has a better crank with no whine and the ecu plugs right up to the new motor, but just unplug one sensor

[@framurray5282]

and won't burn oil like the 08

[@bslugz]

The no oil burn on a ‘12 and up is not a guarantee...

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

at this point why not get a newer engine right, or cp4 swap it

[@TheThaedass]

All head related problems are standard for that mileage SC59. Piston rings wear and oil consuption is also known for that model. By the way there was a recall on clutch and crankshaft in EU.

[@falkwedel9865]

OC - I´d buy a "new" engine. That one is cursed. Whatever you decide, good luck and keep up the great work

[@MotoGinji]

Look at the bright side chase. The engine can't get any WORSE from the state it's in now, It only get's better from here on out!

[@phillipparkinson7145]

OC: build. Build. And build. Brian the brain. Strikes again.

[@evasesh6585]

They're working on "newer" Hondas, while I am sitting here working on a 40 year old Honda CB450, I haven't had any issues with the engine, even after it was sitting in a salvage yard for the past 20+ years. Currently my only issue is due to the 40 year old electrical components for the CDI... saddly they dont make replacements for those, so its a roulette game on getting one that isnt fried.

[@LaLa-Bane]

Watch Classic Octane channel, there is the video how to change all wiring harness and electronic ignition. Check it out.

[@evasesh6585]

@@LaLa-Bane Oh, Ive done that, the problem is the CDI box on these go out, there is a 1 in 5 chance that a replacement will also be bad and because these units are no longer produced its a matter of buying used ones until you find a good one. The CDI box is separate from the wiring harness an only connects to the stator/alternator.

[@DaddyShamurai]

@@evasesh6585 Seriously my 40 year old honda thumper still kicking like the tank it is. Check out electrexworld, they should have what you need.

[@evasesh6585]

@@DaddyShamurai Sadly not for the 80s CB450 or CM400, they have units for the CB650s and CX500s and larger displacement. There was 1 person making aftermarket CDIs for these bikes but he has been out of it for a while.

[@tazmansa6198]

Thank you so much for these vids, I've learnt so much so far and can't wait for more - AWESOME jobs guys, keep it up from Bobby aka Tazman in South Africa

[@ridethenorthwest5853]

OC would be nice to see you rebuild it but I definitely think costs should come first over everything else

[@taylorg2050]

OC - rebuild!

[@joshualambert2414]

I hate to correct Brian I really do but the cylinder numbering comes from the orientation of the engine in the bike with a rider. What this mean left to right 1 to 4 the timing chain is on the right next to cylinder 4. The first valves yall pulled from cylinder 1 bro sorry for the correction.

[@SaqibKhaliq]

Great episode, lovely editing. Perhaps see if you can get a re-conditioned engine from a recommended company? Sometimes a crate engine from Honda could be cheap, if they are clearing their shelves. You don't ask, you don't get.

[@AT2Productions]

OC - do a proper cost analysis. Talk to the machine shop and get an estimate for the known issues, if they even do the work. Then compare that price, plus a percentage for overrun, to the cost of a new-to-you engine. That really is the only and best way to look at this horrible situation.

[@pavelmihailov9901]

Good job guys, keep on the good work!

[@captainamerica9353]

Do they ever show what this would cost? It's gotta be a lot! I'd be curious to know what they would charge for a basic rebuild of a stock motor, say, just a full inspection, lapping valves, maybe a hone and new rings, vs. a stage I and stage II rebuild (hopped up).

[@kazager11]

If original owner is seeing this he's laughing his but off

[@altypeRR]

Brian says “I’ve never seen an engine run with this many problems”. Brian that is a testimony to Honda.

[@bmp72]

If youre at the point of looking for a new engine, why not just try the whole process with the oven etc ? It may work, my dad this for his single cilinder 2 valve BMW R27...

[@Purplemonkey1974]

Would u only change the 4 valve guides or change the lot?

[@nkginhd6235]

OC - Rebuilding would be great content! Hopefully the machinist comes through for you guys!

[@pauls6157]

Fantastic content as always, over here 🇬🇧 the keepers are called collets.

[@courtneyricks500]

Rebuild it. Content gold.

[@MrMorepower71]

OC - used motor and refresh it. I bet that is a used motor with way more miles that someone threw in there anyway.

[@ReneOllino]

OC: rebuild... On another topic. I might be mistaken but wasn’t it Brian who explained the difference between an engine and motor on a previous episode. Motor was supposed to be powered by electric and engine by fuel, but i hear all of you using the term motor all the time.

[@kazager11]

I would mic bores before rebuilding. I think it's worn more than you think

[@Marty41P]

Honestly and monitarily, it would be smarter to replace it but for the educational value...REBUILD IT!!

[@jplanigan]

OC - Rebuild it and they will come.

[@greensparks415]

Would a leak down test revill that damage and can I do a leak down test after the cylinder head is removed

[@timothybayliss6680]

Honestly I would see if I could find a smashed bike that's newer. There is lots of commonality with the 1000rr bikes and you could probably replace the engine in two days for the price of the crankshaft.

[@Flash_Flood]

OC: I say rebuild, because it's more interesting. Although I'm sure Brian would have good tips about what to look for in second hand used motors... Tough decision!

[@to-yg1tx]

A 2008 cbr1k does not make 198rwhp. 140's stock, 170 with a shaved head, thin gasket and e85/mr12 tune + full exhaust. And honestly, 160/170 is a wild ride with no electronics anyway.

[@pjlohr8604]

OC- I enjoy the whole process, but you should buy a fresh boii

[@kremlinfuize]

I'd buy. If Brian is looking worried we should all be scared haha

[@edtuller2537]

Rebuilding it is a hell of alot cheaper than buying a new head. I seen Chase's face when Brian told him how much a new Head cost. I thought Chase was going to Faint.

[@HamzaFaruqui]

I don't think I've completed any of these rebuild videos without facepalming myself unconscious.

[@atatopatato]

You could test how the valves are sealing by pouring a little bit of water on the valves

[@jonhewitt3]

Wow, how bad can an engine be and still run in that state? Look on the bright side, Brian has given us a great education

[@MrChaz0409]

Engine fairy 🧚🏻‍♂️ 🤩🤣.. great video ‼️. Thank you

[@Tema2K]

one thing i don't understand, in Europe any decent machine shop that does heads, replace valve guides no problem. why is it such a problem in US?

[@SeanLSmith]

OC -> Rebuild unless it is cost prohibitive then go for secondhand engine swap.

[@lrowlands53]

They are called collets - these things that hold the spring assembly on the valve.

[@paradox206]

OC: Good used head and rebuild!

[@650ali3]

OC rebuild the Beast

[@SuperbikeSurgeryTV]

Multi CylinderJap bike engines are always numbered Left to right as you are sitting on the bike, the location of the cam chain tunnel has nothing to do with it. You've got it the wrong way around!

[@eddverdillo2589]

OC: buy a used engine with less miles. Saves you all the hassle but we get less episodes of the fireblade.

[@BEEBEE159]

I feel your pain, Chase. The oh shit moment is at the 32:30 mark, for those who want to cut to the chase.

[@rogercorn8320]

Well It doesn't help that it was running without oil at one point

[@AntaresSQ01]

OC, Buy a used motor, it's definitely the better option financially, even if seeing it rebuilt would be very educational, especially the final troubleshooting when it's nearly done, but that would indeed cost a shitload, idk how much ur profit margin is on this series but that's just my 2 cents

[@Chris_Page]

you want a medal for Taking that junk on

[@bslugz]

Oh and i have a cilinderhead all revised of a 2013..not using it.....but i’m all the way down in The Netherlands🤷🏽‍♂️

[@BrickZ87]

The Head-People will have the right answers.. Lets Pray

[@scottb8175]

I'd keep magnets away from steel and iron internal engine parts as a rule.....tweezers for the collets / keepers work and won't magnetize the parts....

[@Fast_Flick]

Pretty interesting stuff👌🏻

[@Salatrel]

Poor Brian... at least the show is called rebuild for a reason

[@vusimkhwanazi1944]

Hi Brian where are you located

[@kazager11]

My vote is cut the losses

[@bslugz]

If it comes down to a new engine, please be sure the donor is not burning oil also...heavy problem on blades!...

[@shanemartinson5006]

OC: rebuild it... as a former race team and shop mechanic I've seen way worse, Guides really ain't that bad as long as the head isn't messed up, if the motor isn't FUBAR'd, then just buy some parts and get it running... but in the end you have to think about the money in the end...which way costs more to do.... let say the head work and the motor fixes are on the more pricey side.. and you buy a used motor..... like Brian said you never know what you're getting so you'll have to take it at least partially apart to check the condition of the donor motor.

[@andwiseman]

OC - rebuild if viable and, if so, be transparent on cost so people in a similar situation have an ide what they are getting into.