This Motor Is Taking Over The eBike World! | EMBN Show 355

[@embn]

What bike would you love to see the Bosch CX motor in next?

[@VINLAND_777]

Trek Rail

[@kickin123]

would love to see it in more 'almost SL' bikes... like the Mondraker being referenced above. I have a mental hurdle with 50lb bikes.... 45-46 lbs is my max before i feel like the bike starts feeling 'tankish'...

[@rirrid5662]

Retirement. DJI all the way.

[@gazza70cr]

Aren't these 85 NM motors going to be obsolete in a couple of years?

[@Videomorgue]

A dumpster.

[@bikec-falls9514]

Always a great show ! Thx gents !

[@dimaluchian9003]

Hey , nice to see that you saw my picture with the Bucegi Mountains Romania. The track goes all the way to “Varful Omu” ( Man’s Peak ), 2507m altitude. My Heckler is my first E-bike, and since i’ve switched to electric, my mtb experience got a lot more entertaining. I have subscribed to the embn channel and learned a lot about e-bikes. Keep up the good work!💪🫡

[@reinerfranke5436]

Good point. Removeable cost +1kg on frame, cover and lock. And extendable should mean 1p,2p,3p,4p x 13s cell design, not different lenghts but thickness.

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

Pretty sure I get the new cx in my next ebike with the new display which is like the shimano display. Have the first cx and it's still performing excellent after 7 years. ☮️

[@corran-soul]

You know what’s needed (as a video). Is a more in depth explanation of how motor Nm and W affects power. One is torque and one is power of course, but how does that affect the ride? For example how does a 75Nm 500w differ from a 85Nm 250w motor in real life.

[@tonyo4984]

Vitus Bikes are available on Wiggle, Chain Reaction and Evans cycles websites. I would assume they will also be avaible in Evans cycle shops. With the old Wiggle / CR set up they were only online so when Mike Ashley bought them it had to be in their minds to be able to have physical bikes from in-house brands available in physical shops. The Vitus and Nukeproof products being sold are much as they were under the old ownership and the acid test will be how much investment goes into future developement.

[@claytonprice7833]

Just touching on the Battery changes from Old to New.. I understand that the New Bosch Battery has 30% more efficiency (21600 cell) than the Old Battery (17500 cell). Is that correct? If so, the 600wh with 30% more efficient and lighter, would make that similar to a 780wh Battery in the Old Cell?. Are the Extenders 17500 cell or 21700 cell?

[@robincurwood]

Hi guys,I ride a ebike with a belt. My problem is I ride where it's gritty. If you get a tiny bit of grit between the gear and belt, good bye belt. I'm now on my third belt, with just over a thousand miles!

[@robrider838]

Until battery chemistry is improved, you won't see any drastic changes with ebikes. Solid state could be a game changer, but we haven't even seen those batteries in high end EVs yet.

[@doctorjules187]

@EMBN when are we going to see integrated motor/gearboxes from SRAM & Shimano? (And solid state batteries in EMTBs?)

[@thebodaciousbing3950]

It is a berry , that is blue

[@IdrisFashan]

For chaps that spend so much time in the bush… 😅

[@brianlamb66]

What is the address to email a picture?

[@dirtyoffroader2093]

I'm gutted mondraker are only doing Carbon craftys next year, I know there's an alloy '25 Crafty Race, but there's no ohlins version 😕 Not great news for those of us that dont like carbon.

[@mustclime5311]

i want to know more about the new Brose...

[@porroco]

Wonder if yeticycles will use bosch?

[@razorree]

c'mon, that Merida E180 weight 27-28kg ??!! maybe it's ok for fast bike parks, but definietely not for some slow black, techy, twisty trails of SCF ...

[@christiantimmer9226]

In the official Ghost Trailer you can see the integrated Bosch Toptubedisplay.....3times😂

[@Klugscheisser-td6nb]

You see kiox 300 integrated

[@NoNotAChance]

Merida often misses the mark. Give me a 160 travel with that spec and I am in, but I just don't want 180. Heck, the EP801 powered one with 170 is too much for many, but us older types with health issues need the full power.

[@dennisstacy3934]

Unsprung weight. I’m not sure you could feel the difference but the shocks won’t need to work as hard to keep things under control

[@all-to]

Hello, I'd like to hear your opinion. E-MTB bikes use sprockets of 11T to 52T. Do you think the minimum and maximum gears are insufficient? Do you think they are more than necessary? And the gear up ratio for the sprocket is 14 to 18%. Do you think it's appropriate? Or do you think 20% or more is enough? I'm a gearbox developer. I'm looking to develop an integrated drive like an MGU. I'd like to hear from you to know the appropriate gear ratio.

[@andymtb3212]

How did this person get a Merida in the USA?

[@sety409]

I seen other EU brands get here through brand specific importers. Usually they are 1 year older models and I’ve Never seen a Merida.

[@howellgillogly2406]

While not a mountain bike, the CX on my 37 lb Canyon Grail:ON is so ridiculous and powerful it's like driving a monster truck. But the new Performance Line SX is way better and more natural feeling when peddling.

[@bindipper018]

Hi guys I'd love to send a pic of my whyte e160rsx but can't fine the email cheers

[@keithwestwood4640]

Is it possible to get a battery extension for a 2019 trek powerfly 5 ,bosch performance line cx motor? Cheers boy's.

[@jokermtb]

Merida? Not available in USA

[@nobrakes7247]

Looks like we will be waiting for a few more years for the gearbox motor belt drives. Unless you have shit loads of cash

[@grisz1144]

I would like to have lightweight 20kg eMTB with 900Wh battery and 90Nm motor for 5000$

[@Mtb9r]

I have two trail dogs. They haul ass. They keep up with me no problem.

[@paulhusky580bts]

Ghost same firm as Haibike & Lapierre Vitius went down pan after Wiggle & CRC went into Administration as they only firm who sold them

[@ArturPereiraMTB]

The thicker battery was a clear mistake from Bosch. A slimmer downtube must be a priority, these days and for the future.

[@vashon100]

Yeah. The weight in the down tube make it harder to lift front end, esp if you're the type that rides in the eco setting instead of turbo all the time.

[@cameratool]

Until Bosch decides on a bolt pattern/case I wouldn't buy any of their landfill motors.

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

Most reliable motors in the business. That's not a secret. ☮️

[@12345idiotsluggage]

How long will it take for legacy emtb manufacturers to purge themselves of vendor contracts for derailleurs, cogs, etc? I welcome a speedy demise to our past. Hark - - - Let us usher in a new era of motor/gearing unit combined. Pinion looks to be in the lead. Other legit competition must exist somewhere. China maybe?

[@claytonsmoothy314]

DJI need I say more

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

Yeah tell us how many km have you ridden an amflow ebike? How many years? ☮️

[@smelker]

Try to sell it before it gets out dated..😂

[@marcopaganotto9125]

Personally, I'm very angry with Bosch because, having spent 4k on a Bosch powered bike, I believe it's up to me what I do with it. I've derestricted it using a planet 3 device, which their software detected, and now I'm stuck in limp mode, which no doubt I'll have to pay for to reset the bike. Frankly, this is a joke, and had I known, I'd never had bought a Bosch powered bike. And I won't ever again.

[@siriosstar4789]

Dude i would suggest you stop posting anything on this topic ., You may have just voided your warranty and if you live in Europe, you could be facing legal issues if caught riding on public roads resulting in a huge fine .

[@neilelliston]

What planet 3 was it? I was looking at the speedi derestrictor

[@More_Row]

@@Trekman78wich is?

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

Obviously you modded your ebike and Bosch is right. In Europe and many other countries you could even face legal issues. ☮️

[@porroco]

DJI AVINOX IS A MUCH BETTER MOTOR

[@Mockle07]

Have you ridden it? Is it available? Is it reliable? Are you a bot?

[@porroco]

@@Mockle07yeap i came back fron the future and that’s the motor. Hey do you know that has been tested already years ago, they did not release it just last month dude

[@porroco]

@@Mockle07shimano & bosch they are being doing it wrong for you to test them.

[@Mockle07]

@@porroco Yep. Bot confirmed.

[@porroco]

@@Mockle07 bot you mom, i m a human that belive in dji because i own their product.

[@BSE75]

no one will buy Bosch next year.

[@tomhuber5372]

Let me guess, another DJI fanboy without having even seen the motor?

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

The dji adversary gang is here in the comments. Never seen the bike in reality but it's the best. Sure. 😂☮️

[@HelloHello-gv2gg]

Steve, steve, steve when you say “where w should start”, How about, “where these bikes aren’t available”? Can you respond to this? I stopped watching your videos b/c most of the bikes you review aren’t available in North America. Can you please respond once and for all?!? Folks what do you think please respond. Folks. At least you don’t say guys which is sexist but teasing people about bikes they can’t buy is almost as bad, so please respond.

[@andremellao4882]

Bosh motors are shit, Shimano or Brose are much better

[@Mockle07]

lol you are not serious! 🤦🏼‍♂️😂

[@VenoXj1]

To prefer something over Bosch is totally fine, to say Bosch is trash is pretty damn stupid.

[@Mockle07]

@@VenoXj1 Bingo. Social media generation - everything is either the best ever or trash. It’s a 1 or a 10, nothing in between. All the motors are fine for certain applications.

[@siriosstar4789]

@and,,,,,,, - Stop trolling . Bosch is the most widely used and dependable e bike motor on the market ., The introduction of the Brose saw more failures of the motor and the belt than any other mid drive at that time . The motor has since been re engineered without the belt . No long term data is available as to reliability as this just recently occurred .

[@Trekman78]

If bosh was so good why dont specialized use it? Brose is a great motor, it's the people who own them, and they jet wash the shit out of it! I know lots of people who own specialized in uk and on 5000 miles no faults, its the riders who cause the trouble! Everything fails nothing on planet earth lasts a life time when motors are involved

[@LukasStumpf]

Hands down I am not longer looking for Bosch and other "big players" since the new DJI motor is out. They just suck in comparison to what DJI did. Sorry big players🥲

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

Really? How many km have you ridden an amflow ebike? How many years? Please tell us. ☮️

[@timbillings6884]

What good would a bike with a battery you can't replace !!!??????????? Battery dies you through out the bike!? 🤷‍♂️🙄🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤯😡🤬🤏🏼🧠

[@andymtb3212]

The battery is replaceable just not easily removeable

[@PapaKnork]

Removable for charging. The battery can be taken out on every ebike, on some just not that easily without taking out the motor. But most mechanics/shops can do it. Even you can if you are handy enough and feel like it, it's just not very practical for charging only.

[@timbillings6884]

@@PapaKnork I've been riding since mountain bikes where invented I do all my own work.!!! Most bike shops don't do the best work can never tell unless you do it yourself !!! 🤷‍♂️ I can do anything.... 😁

[@Mockle07]

@@timbillings6884Imagine being so happy with your own comment and then realising you are completely wrong 😂

[@timbillings6884]

@@Mockle07 Why is that!??? Because you couldn't !???????? 😂🤷‍♂️ I can....