This One is Going to be Hard to Beat: Velotric Discover 2

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Introducing the Velotric Discover 2, if you are looking for a commuter ebike, this one will be hard to beat for the price! With its advanced features and sleek design, it's a step up from the popular Discover 1 model. Upgrade your ride and discover the convenience and power of Velotric Discover 2.
0:00 Intro
0:24 Specs
4:08 Size and Fit
4:51 Cockpit Operations
10:01 Pas 0 Riding
10:25 Pull Test
12:21 Side Mirror
12:39 Riding Conditions
13:02 Throttle/PAS (28mph) Testing
15:56 Throttle/PAS (20mph) Testing
17:34 Throttle/PAS (12mph) Testing
19:13 Cruise Control
19:42 Observations
20:28 Off Road
21:02 Hill Climb
24:18 Mileage Check
24:53 Observations
25:26 30mph in Eco Mode
26:17 Observations
26:52 Mileage Check
27:04 Phone App
28:14 Display
29:08 Sand Test
30:03 Observations
32:02 Brake Test
33:06 Observations
34:41 Final Thoughts
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[@scotthardesty]

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[@davidintexas783]

Wow, they did a great job and it's obvious they put some thought into it. It's going to be hard to beat!

[@scotthardesty]

Agreed!

[@srobeck77]

Pretty sure they just copy and pasted the Aventon Pace from 4 years ago shoehorned in a slightly more powerful motor

[@srobeck77]

@@ProAverag3 Pace > Level for street riding. More comfy handle bars + upright frame. Front fork suspension means nothing on pavement. Rear suspension and seat post suspension matters way more. 500W 28mph is as fast as youd ever want to go safely. Ive rode my Pace in the rain and thru puddles are you wanting to buy an underwater submarine?

[@ProAverag3]

@srobeck77 sorry for deleting my comment, I realized it sounded a bit accusatory. I was curious about your thought process with the pace comparison. I can see if you ONLY ride pavement without elevation how the motor and fork wouldn't be an upsell for you.

[@srobeck77]

@@ProAverag3 haha i do that sometimes too. For me personally, I really love upright frames and my next ebike, I want a belt instead of a chain. Im tired of cleaning chains. Aventon isnt offering belts yet. I have my eyeballs on Tenways, Prodigy V2, Birdbike and more expensive Specialized Como 4.0 ($4,000)

[@latarratetter1935]

I purchased mine this month and it’s everything you would want in a bike… I love it, it rides great and technology on this bike is great. Very sturdy nothing is flimsy at all… this is my first e-bike I’m glad I purchased it.❤

[@scotthardesty]

In my eyes, its currently the perfect commuter ebike out there today.

[@brianwoods9552]

Great review. As the owner of four different e-bikes, I can appreciate the thoroughness you put into this. Looks like an awesome bike. Great review!

[@scotthardesty]

Thank you! I try to cover everything I would want to know about a bike if I was watching a review.

[@williambingham2459]

This bike is a gamechanger. Great review. Glad I waited on buying Discover 1. Worth the $ difference.

[@scotthardesty]

Thanks! And I agree about it being worth the extra money.

[@ronpope218]

Another great review, Scott! What a cool machine!

[@scotthardesty]

Thanks!

[@sociopathmercenary]

I picked up two Velotric Packers during their Black Friday sale for $1500 each. Your reviews greatly helped in our decision. Thank you so much! The weather is finally cooperating so that we can put some miles on them. Super happy so far. I'm new to e-bikes. That first u-turn in assistance level 5 was exciting when I started pedaling midturn and almost became one with the ditch. 😂 Velotric seems to be putting out some really solid products.

[@scotthardesty]

I still use Packer every week. I know my wife is going to scoop this one from me. Good to hear you saved yourself and the Packer from going into the ditch!

[@blintzkreig1638]

Very nice and thorough review.

[@scotthardesty]

Thank you kindly!

[@johnfreed4651]

Nice review! I’ve had the Discover1 for over a year. Had to replace the controller early on, but it’s been a great bike.

[@scotthardesty]

The D1 is a great bike, this is just the new and improved model. If you love your D1, I say roll with it until it dies!

[@tonygiancoli9626]

I like Velotric a lot. They seem to make good, solid, fun... comfortable bikes. I liked the Nomad1 that I rode quite a bit, so can only imagine the Nomad2 is going to be amazing when it comes out. The Discover 2 is awesome, based on what you shared.

[@scotthardesty]

Their line up has been solid. I am also pumped and waiting for the Nomad 2! You know that thing will be a beast.

[@DearSX]

Wow, great innovation on the bike and very competitive price, power, weight, and range.

[@scotthardesty]

Yes indeed!

[@user-wf6hc5zg9n]

Love my new discover 2-love the red and it is AMAZING just like you said!

[@scotthardesty]

This is THE BEST commuter ebike for 2024!

[@E-Ryders]

😲Whaaaaat? They made a 2 now? The Discover 1 we reviewed was already awesome and they made it better? That display and display controls look so futuristic too, I like it. I wonder if they're doing a Nomad 2 also?

[@scotthardesty]

I can see a Nomad 2 coming! Or at least I hope so!

[@maryl.7226]

Great review as always, Scott! I’m waiting for Velotric to come out with all these features - on a mid-drive. There’s a good dealer 4 miles from me carrying Velotric now, so when they come out with a mid-drive, I’ll even have an LBS to service it. Hope they come out with a nice blue colorway. Thanks again.

[@scotthardesty]

That might be awhile before they come out with a mid drive. I have a feeling, Aventon will do it first with their Level commuter bike.

[@maryl.7226]

@@scotthardesty I’m thinking Velotric needs to because Ride1Up did in the Progidy 2.

[@jbermiup8030]

Great review! If Velotric were to offer pricing for previous buyers of the discover 1 on these new models my wife and I would certainly consider trading up.

[@scotthardesty]

I think you and everyone else with a D1 would love that offer.

[@ProAverag3]

Aventon better be taking notes for the Level 3... This thing looks great!

[@scotthardesty]

Right?!

[@AdamasOldblade]

As always Scott, great review, editing and presentation are always fantastic. I've commented a number of times on your videos before regarding my bad experience with Velotric's customer service when I owned a Discover 1. The extremely short version is that it failed on me and after bunch of back and forth they bluntly told me to go find a local bike shop because they can not help me with any of my issues (motor controller broke during normal riding, got a replacement from them which made the power switch on and off randomly). That experience turned me off to them so much that I will personally never support them again. This being said, I have never said all their products are bad... I actually really liked the look of the Thunder series and knew for sure they were gonna follow the ebike trend with the Discover 2 (and presumably the upcoming Nomad 2) of moving to torque sensors, signals, more options and what not... Their tech is pretty good, and I'd go to say I'm actually rather jealous of a few things they are offering right now that my current ebike doesn't have (Aventon Level.2). Velotric did get me into ebikes, so I tip my hat in thanks for that, but they ironically also made me steer clear of them. I sold my Discover 1 in 2023 at a loss, but used that money for a Level.2 and even after 2,300 miles that thing shows zero signs of slowing down. It is my literal daily commuter. With other companies "catching up" to trends like full torque sensors and putting more power into their motors I am very curious for the next say, 2 to 3 years of ebikes and what will become, "The Norm" in terms of specs AND price. I feel companies like Velotric and Aventon are pushing really hard to keep things under the 2K dollar amount, but still offer a good product, but I'm very curious if there is this careful dance behind the scenes to see what company (any company) makes the next big move to do something such as full carbon fibre (such as Nireeka already has this and heavily markets it, but I've also heard their CS is non-existent) or some sort of massive leap in battery technology that allows range (Aniioki comes to mind, but their battery is indeed massive), OR maybe future commuter ebikes will fully go the way of Cowboy 4 and try to keep offering sleek and minimal...though cost will be an issue. Very interested to see if/when one of these companies starts really really pushing things like belt drives and/or mid-drive motors over hub motors instead too.

[@scotthardesty]

I always appreciate your well detailed comments. I do know that Aventon and Velotric have their own factories allowing them be innovative when it comes to future models of ebikes. I can agree with everything you have said (except I haven't had a bad experience with Velotric CS as of yet) so I want to thank you for your time to write this comment.

[@AdamasOldblade]

​@@scotthardesty - I write my comments to give context only. It's up to the buyer to decide where to invest their money. I've had a bad experience with Velotric and a fantastic experience with Aventon is all.

[@scotthardesty]

@@AdamasOldblade I totally understand and appreciate it.

[@imstillhereileft7530]

Dam , I just bought the T1 st & rode it & 3 days later this one comes out , oh well, I did used your code for the T1 st , thanks

[@scotthardesty]

The T1ST is a great bike! You will not be disappointed!

[@MumfordJim]

T1 ST is much lighter, not a step thru and the battery is not removable. It also has find me. I like how light the T1 ST is. Very different than the Discover 2.

[@jimbomaz]

This bike is a gamechanger. They really put some thought into this one. Any word on a Nomad 2?

[@scotthardesty]

I hope they bring the N2 out this year.

[@Euniceiscool]

Pretty comparable to the Aventon Pace 500.3. I just got my Pace, but I would have preferred the lights on the rear rack like this one. The MIK mount is a nice, well thought out feature. I don't think I could get this bike in Canada easily. The Aventon is readily available in Canada.

[@scotthardesty]

Canada might be struggle for sure. thanks for watching!

[@jono5900]

Good review Scott..Is this Chicaga? First day of my riding the same exact color and yes, it's a good color choice. I'm not so sure what to garner from the Power Bar and how to use that to ride more efficiently..if you can shed some light on that by all means go ahead👍 I'm in NYC and there are some big hills mainly in Central Park and it didn't take long for me to Discover(pun intended) that the unlocked throttle is your best friend as even on Trail/Boost, it was challenging to ride up these hills on anything above 3rd gear..and of course the challenge with that is the lower gears result in not really moving too fast..so net net, that throttle is my ace in the hole.

[@scotthardesty]

Yes, this is Chicago! I have to admit, I don't really pay attention to the power bar and the efficiency part of this bike. I just them without ever checking that stuff. Yes! even in Chicago (without the hills you have) the throttle on this bike is legit and is definitely a winner in my book.

[@sociopathmercenary]

I definitely like the controls on this over the five-way switch on my Packer. Wonder if the new controls are compatible with older models.

[@sociopathmercenary]

Yeah. I'm definitely jealous of the new control features.

[@scotthardesty]

I don't think they would work with older models as this is a torque sensor.

[@brentt6060]

This looks like a really great bike and a good price im not sure about the throttle on the left-hand side though lol but i saw on there website you can buy a right hand twist throttle for $26.99 but I didn’t see the option to buy an extra battery yet sometimes i like to do 70 mile rides on cruise control 😂 I live by the beach so its a nice ride up the coast but the features on this is killer

[@scotthardesty]

I saw that about the twist throttle as well. I have not done that to any of the bikes so maybe I will try it with this one. I am guessing they will sell extra batteries soon.

[@brentt6060]

@@scotthardesty agree and to switch it out looks really easy

[@CK-tu6dh]

How quiet is the motor? I have a Discover 1 and am very happy with how quiet it is. Wondering if 750w vs 500w would make the Discover 2 louder.

[@scotthardesty]

This motor is quiet. Much more than the D1.

[@johnfreed4651]

You should check out the new model from Euphree. Beautiful bikes with great components.

[@scotthardesty]

If they send me one, I will review it! I will look it up online as well because now you have me curious.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

Stellar Falcon. Biggest standout feature is the display lets you toggle between using the torque sensor to drive the motor or run it like a cadence sensor bike. Don’t know if it correlated each PAS level to a power level or a speed target in cadence mode though. Otherwise, it also seems like a really nicely-spec’d bike.

[@Papiplomo]

I like this bike a lot, it’s just infuriating that it comes with a bell instead of a horn. I know I’m nitpicking. This bike is so close to being perfect! Great video!

[@scotthardesty]

You can always add a horn.

[@Papiplomo]

@@scotthardesty I agree. I just feel like it should come with one for that price point. Like I said, it’s pretty close to perfect!

[@richardmeissner147]

The rear-view mirror looks nice. was that an amazon purchase?

[@scotthardesty]

It was the one on the velotric website.

[@Stumpywan2]

How does this compare to the Ride1up LMT’D V2?

[@scotthardesty]

I don't know. I have not reviewed the Ride1Up bike.

[@rayrussell6258]

What is the warranty length on Velotric? Are Velotric ebikes sold at cycling shops, or just online? Aventon has 1800 dealers, and 2-year warranty. I like this Discover 2 a bit more than Velotric's eMTB you reviewed a few days ago, mainly due to turn signals and frame color offerings, but in either case I'm now thinking if I want a Velotric, am I giving up warranty coverage and dealer service versus a comparable Aventon model? Also, in comparison of Discover 2 to Aventon Level 2, the buttressing on the lower area of the step-thru frame of Level 2 seems to be sturdier.

[@scotthardesty]

Hi Ray, it has a 2 year warranty. Velotric is growing fast and have over 500 cycle shops selling their bikes and also online. They have won many awards and they stand behind their products.

[@rayrussell6258]

@@scotthardesty Great info, thanks. It means I can now seriously consider the brand. That kind of info might be something you include in future reviews, those of us living outside cities don't always know these brands. Locally, all I have is Trek/Electra and Giant dealers. I'll look around for nearby Velotric sellers. Appreciate you giving this quick response.

[@reyluisdeang1238]

I need help scott, im fixing to buy a level.2. Is this better? if the torque sensor is better or at par with lvl2. Imma buy this one. Thanks.

[@scotthardesty]

I am going to do a comparison video between the two, but I have to say, the D2 beats out the Level 2. I hope Aventon produces a Level 3 soon.

[@srobeck77]

Its more comparable to the Aventon Pace, not the Level. The Level is a leaning forward slightly off road model with a very low end front suspension, thats probably not even going to do much. Upright bikes are for paved road comfort.

[@scotthardesty]

@@srobeck77I don’t think so. Both the level 2 and D2 have a suspension front fork, about the same size but I can see where it could be compared to the Pace as well.

[@scotthardesty]

@@srobeck77wrong or not, any comparison between either of those bikes and the Discover 2 will beat them out.

[@srobeck77]

@@scotthardesty Discover looks identical the Pace down to every last detail, so Im not seeing anything different. The motor is slightly more powerful, so thats kind of a plus if you live in very hills areas, but both hit that 28mph mark. Im going with the Specialized Como 3.0 IGH this summer. Im not saying this one is perfect (Its pricey and the handlebars look straight out of an 80's Flash Gordon movie). But, I want an upright frame with a belt drive. Also, MN is giving a 50% tax credit on ebikes this year, so that really helps out.

[@halfbrew70]

My area has a lot inclines at tunnels and bridges. 20 - 30 ft elevation changes with ramps approx. 150 ft. long. Problems is, the ramp entrances have sharp turns, so I can't build up much speed on approach. And I'd also need to maintain 20 - 25 mph to keep up with traffic. How do you think the Discover 2 would handle it? Thanks! Appreciate the review.

[@scotthardesty]

That is a very specific question. If you are pedaling, I believe it can handle it. You will most likely need to be in boost mode but not sure ANY bike is going to be able to maintain a 25 mph speed in the process. Unfortunately, I have nothing around here to test this theory.

[@halfbrew70]

@@scotthardesty Thanks for the reply. I've seen cadence sensor bikes zipping up those ramps (pedaling). Just curious if I could expect the same performance this torque sensor setup, which I understand requires more effort from the rider. Thanks again.

[@scotthardesty]

@@halfbrew70 If they are making it up with cadence sensors you will be fine with the torque. Boost mode will make that bike feel like its a cadence sensor going up those hills.

[@halfbrew70]

@@scotthardesty Thanks!

[@danhall3450]

Sounds like a terrific bike if one doesn't mind the weight but it is too heavy for this 75 yr old.! I'd love to see some of these features show up as an upgrade to the T1 ST; namely, the richly featured rear tail light, the adjustable stem, the controller and screen with all those options,. If all that added 3 bs the T1 would still be a nice manageable 39 lbs A bit more battery would be nice but not essential. Please tell us that Velotric has that in the works for the T1 ST!

[@scotthardesty]

All those features sound great for the T1ST. Unfortunately, I do not see them doing an update to the T1 series this year.

[@danhall3450]

😪@@scotthardesty

[@scotthardesty]

@@danhall3450I have been trying out one of Velotric’s new bikes all day today that is coming out next. I think you are going to be very happy if you love your T1ST. I think I might have just found my favorite bike for 2024.

[@danhall3450]

I don't actually have a T1 ST yet, but that is my top pick for a light weight Ebike that I can put in the back of my Kia Niro. So I am really looking forward to your Velotric bike reveal! Hopefully it will have a lot of the features on the Discovery 2 while weighting in at 42 lbs or less. @scotthardesty

[@scotthardesty]

@@danhall3450 it’s is not under 42. Sorry.

[@AllanRothwell]

Scott - what model Aventon does this line up against ?

[@scotthardesty]

I would say the Level 2 due to the size of the motor and front suspension. Comparison video coming soon.

[@AllanRothwell]

@@scotthardesty Thank you sir. Another awesome video BTW. Objective and with passion.

[@danhall3450]

Both Aventon & Velotric make very nice Ebikes. One thing that sets Aventon apart is that their welds are pretty much invisible whereas Veltoric's look like a pile of stack coins. That may not be a true reflection of quality but the Aventon workmanship appears superior as a result.

[@scotthardesty]

@@danhall3450 I agree, but that also might be the reason these bikes can handle a max payload of 440lbs opposites to Aventons 300lbs.

[@cynic256]

Any idea if my discover 1 battery will fit in this? I doubt it, the terminals look completely different.

[@scotthardesty]

It will not. This is an entirely different battery.

[@cynic256]

that is unfortunate. @@scotthardesty

[@cynic256]

is the customization nice with so many PAS and tour/eco/sport modes? sometimes torque sensors aren't good for cruising, i'm wondering if you can make it similar to a cadence sensor with those modes? basically what i'm trying to ask if can i be lazy on it if i want to be @@scotthardesty

[@johnl6769]

In my research for an ebike, I have watched many video demos. This one was perhaps the most thorough and helpful review so far - nicely done! Clearly this is a nice ebike - my only concern is how well it could it handle the hills and dirt/gravel roads we have here in New Hampshire - any thoughts on that? Thank you for the great review!

[@shagbark54]

75 Nm is ok...ecell 5 star bike which I just ordered is Almost twice that...more power..more accessories..$1895 with a code..free shipping no tax...ck it out

[@sociopathmercenary]

I live in rural Ohio. I have the Packer 1 and we are surrounded by hills. At 350 pounds, the bike will pull strong up pretty significant hills on throttle only but adding a bit of pedaling certainly helps. Since the weather is just getting nice enough for prolonged riding, I haven't been able to do full range testing but I expect that I'll certainly pay a price for my weight and the hills. If you're significantly lighter than me, You should be fine

[@scotthardesty]

You saw how I had no issue going up the one hill in boost mode. I believe you would be fine. I didn't have it on gravel/dirt roads but everything felt solid when I took it off road.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

The 75Nm peak torque is the sticking point for me. My LMT’d uses a 100Nm peak torque hub motor with similar tires, and I need every bit of that torque.

[@Morpheus197]

Cruise control!

[@scotthardesty]

Heck yeah!

[@Mr.Brutiss]

So how big are you ? Height and weight. Thanks

[@scotthardesty]

5'9" 225lbs 32" inseam, I'm a cancer and I like long rides on bikes. hahaha

[@jimhitchcock5837]

Does the walk mode button have a delay before activation built in like the Discover 1? I hate walk mode incidents 🤓

[@scotthardesty]

I don't think it does. But I don't really know for sure what you consider a delay is. Can you explain so I can test it and let you know?

[@jimhitchcock5837]

@@scotthardestyOn the Discover 1 you hold down the minus button for a couple of seconds before it kicks in. Pretty sure the V 2 will have the same delay, to avoid activating walk mode activating if you brush the button by mistake.

[@scotthardesty]

@@jimhitchcock5837Yes. You are correct, they work the same with the delay.

[@jimhitchcock5837]

@@scotthardesty Thanks Scott!

[@michaelromaner4601]

Hey Scott, I can tell you really like this new Velotric bike. I have a Pace 500.3 and I have to get rid of it. Doctor's orders. The Pace's ride is so upright that when you go over bumps, it compresses your lower spine. Ourch! Injury! So my sports doctor said get rid of the bike and get one that doesn't have such an upright position. It kinda looks like the ride position of this Velotric is very much like the Pace's ride position, which would make it a no starter for me. Have I got this right? If so, what city style bike would be good for me?

[@scotthardesty]

You are correct. I do really the features of this bike. You are also correct in the thoughts of this bike sitting straight up and down. With that said, I have been testing my new favorite Velotric bike for the past month and the video goes public on tomorrow. I believe this new bike will give you all the features of the Discover 2 but it definitely has a more aggressive riding position. Stay Tuned.

[@michaelromaner4601]

Oh gosh, can you give me a hint? I’m going out and shopping for a replacement for the pace today.

[@scotthardesty]

@@michaelromaner4601 It is a commuter, mtb, trail bike. It has quickly become my Goto bike for errands. I feel like it is the big brother of the T1ST. It is not a step thru. I would also suggest the Aventon Level 2. It doesn't sit up as proper and was my preferred step thru bike before the Discover 2 arrived.

[@michaelromaner4601]

@@scotthardesty As always Scott, thanks. I have been all over the Velotric website and there is no mention of a new bike coming out. Just the release of the Discover 2 in March. I've even Googled to see if there is news on a new release and I've heard nothing. Yes, I am going to look at and ride the Level 2 today.. I can see that it has a bit more aggressive riding position and I can trade my Pace 500.3 at the dealer for one. But I am concerned that the Level.2 is quite outdated at this point. No news as to when its successor will come out anywhere. That's why I am trying hard to find info on this new Velotric you are teasing about.

[@scotthardesty]

@@michaelromaner4601 There are actually 2 Velotric bikes being released tomorrow. Hahaha. You might want to wait a day.

[@dandydon6049]

That holding lock or cup holder makes it difficult to step thru. Too many bells and whistle’s. You said it “so many options “. Who’s going to remember to cancel the directionals? I think I’ll keep my Discover 1.

[@scotthardesty]

I disagree. My lock is pretty slim so I haven't bumped into it. Although, it might be much different with a bottle holder. I have seen people use handlebar bottle holders instead.

[@wkw4095]

Soooooo glad I didn't by the Euphree last year. While it's a great bike it didn't have the 750 watt hub which I really wanted. I also wanted the usb charge port and it didn't have that. Now Euphree has a new bike with the 750 watt hub BUT it's noisy and whiney. I wish you had it so we could hear this motor. Seems like your editing removes this....unless this thing has zero motor sound.

[@scotthardesty]

The motor is almost silent. Thats why you don't pick it up.

[@joemeroles5936]

I wish I had turn signals on my nomad

[@scotthardesty]

Maybe on version 2.

[@tbalt14]

They need to make this in a mid or high step version. I just don't like the step through when riding trails.

[@scotthardesty]

I understand. I can only assume they sold way more step thru's of the Discovery 1 compared to the high step version.

[@srobeck77]

Wish it was belt driven. But otherwise, great price and value here.

[@scotthardesty]

Maybe version 3?

[@ytpremium7649]

Heybike hero $3,000 Discover 2 $1,699 Half price and does the same job

[@scotthardesty]

With that being said. I would love to compare the two if Heybike sends me the Hero.

[@RidinRetired]

First!

[@scotthardesty]

Wow... 8 seconds after posting. Impressive.

[@kennethdavis5077]

Way to many little buttons on grip , and it’s on the left 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@scotthardesty]

I like it!

[@DavidCharles-wi4qr]

It has no range.

[@scotthardesty]

Not the way I ride it. My goal is put it thru the worse case scenario. This bike would go much farther if not ridden so hard.

[@antonioiniguez1615]

Define "No Range"

[@honestnewsnet]

I don’t think this is a true torque sensor. You should not be limited on speed based upon your pass setting. You should be able to go any speed in any gear if you’re willing to work. Not sure why you have to change the pass setting to go up in speed. This is why I don’t think it’s a true torque sensor.

[@scotthardesty]

I am not limited. I show what the comfort causal speed is. I can crank it up to full speed on any PAS level if I really wanted to. I even do it in the review. So I am going to have to disagree.

[@shawndean6878]

All y’all must be comfortably wealthy to spend $1700 on a bike

[@scotthardesty]

I mean, I can't dissagree.

[@deshawnthomas]

Tbf, $1700 on a bike sounds crazy but like Scott I live in Chicago where you can kinda say “fuck cars” And getting around town on this compared to a car where the price alone would be triple… quadruple… quintuple and that’s not counting for gas, maintenance, etc. Doesn’t seem too bad! But not everyone lives in a dense urban city so I get it!

[@Tinman710]

Thank god for jobs lol

[@mikepitts8470]

$1700 ain't shit, grandpa!

[@jdubdoubleu]

That's the type of comment people make when they have/had too much debt and project their downfalls on to others.

[@uuzd4s]

@ 2:53 "This Battery can be Power Washed", is possibly the Worst Advice you can give for an IPX7 water resistance rating this Battery is assigned. You need to do some Reading before you repeat nonsense like that. Look it up, it's all there for the World to see. An IPX7K ingress protection rating is good for 150 psi Max water pressure, while the IPX7 is rated to 15 psi of water pressure or less. Any Pressure Washer at a Car Wash uses a minimum of 900 psi up to 2000 psi of water pressure. The IPX7 Rating for this Battery should never see any more Water Pressure than that of standard Water Utility "home" water pressure of 40 to 80 psi. An IPX6 Rating is 15 psi max and should never see any more water pressure than that of Rain or water poured from a bucket. Claiming this Battery can be "Power Washed" shows a lack of knowledge on your part and may cause some poor soul a Lot of money & inconvenience based on Bad Advice like that. Don't take a "Power Washer" to this E-Bike folks, it says so in the instructions.

[@scotthardesty]

As I said... THE BATTERY CAN BE POWER WASHED! FYI, the reason I power washed the battery and this bike is that I was told directly from VELOTRIC that it can be done. Hence I did it, and it survived. They sent me a video showing the battery in 30 min cycle in the washing machine (with soap) and it was just fine. I appreciate your info, but I am going to hold my ground with my statements. I have over 100 miles on this bike and I have power washed it at least 3 times and no issue. Fun fact, I normally power wash all my bikes.

[@uuzd4s]

@@scotthardesty Idiot.

[@StephenBurgess-os6bi]

Hi Scott, Great review of the Velotric Discover 2, thank you. Here's an issue that I know you can't help with, but which may be of interest to at least some of your subscribers. I’m hoping that if I post it here it will find its way to Velotric HQ. Dear reader, a sorry tale awaits … I was all set to buy an Aventon Level 2, however before committing my hard earned, I did one last online search and found the Velotric Discover 2; after plenty of digging I changed my mind. Yep, the Discover 2 was the e-bike for me. Now for the sad bit: I can’t buy it. Why not, I hear you ask? Great question. Velotric only ships to the contiguous states of the USA (CONTUS is the acronym apparently), that is, all the states of the mainland. Hawaii, Alaska, and Puerto Rico, you’re out of luck (and yes, before hitting the keyboard, even from here folks know that Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory and not a state, even though Puerto Ricans are US citizens). Anyway, undaunted, I thought, there has to be a way. Of course there is! I contacted Velotric customer support, and they confirmed that they are happy to ship to a forwarding agent on the US mainland, and I can then pay for the onward shipping: happy days, right? Ah, not so fast grasshopper. After trying ~20 different forwarding agents (UPS, FedEx, DHL, MyUS etc.) it all came to a screaming halt. Why? Because the shipping cost to good old Australia was between $USD 2750-4500 (that’s not a typo). Now, being the geographically literate e-bike owners you are, you know that, while it’s a fair way from California to Melbourne, the other side of the Pacific isn’t the dark side of the moon - why so much? Well, after further enquiries it turns out that lithium batteries are considered a major fire risk and basically anything shipped with a battery of > 100Wh has the battery removed and put in a special super-duper fire proof container which makes it super-duper expensive to ship (insurance, handling, etc.). air transport or surface shipping, it doesn’t matter, batteries go in the special box. So, unless you are shipping commercial volumes, the costs are just prohibitive for individual units. Now, the Discover 2 looks like a really, really, good bike. But man, would you pay at least $USD 4450 for one? Me neither. Dear reader, the USA is a great country populated with great people. But just between us, there are 333 million people living there and there are ~8.1 billion humans on earth, 7.7 billion of whom (also probabaly mostly great folks) do not reside in CONTUS. If even 1% of them want to buy a Discover 2, that’s 77 million e-bikes sales not made. Aventon has a good dealer network locally, Velotric has none (zero, zip, nil, zilch). So, it looks like Aventon will be getting my business, even though I’d rather put my money into a Discover 2. PS: note to Velotric CEO - that’s profit foregone. You know, sale not made, business lost to a competitor, performance bonus not met, that kind of thing.

[@scotthardesty]

I appreciate you sharing your story. It's important for companies to know about the challenges their potential customers face.