This One Scene From Inside Out 2 Calls Out Disney (and other Media Companies)

Inside Out, both the first and second film, is really good at making metaphors with how the mind works; and it's one of my favorite aspects of the franchise. But the sequel takes it further by including one scene that can have multiple meanings depending on how you see, and each interpretation is just as valid as others.
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• Amphibia x The Owl Hou...

[@xcerisex5422]

Not me immediately whispering to the friend beside me, "Live footage of Mappa employees."

[@kanaotsuyuriofficialchan]

LOLLL cant stop laughinggg

[@ttahadrianex]

LOOOLLL

[@SpookyIsReal]

broooo 😭

[@simonmann4922]

My friend did the exact same thing lol

[@valhatan3907]

So accurate

[@cat.2260]

It always SENDS ME the way Anxiety gets confused about all the positive imagination ideas and stops mid-way in her dialogue with the -. _ .- face when she realizes Joy is the culprit from how obviously Joy-centric it is

[@SamSeth1996]

When I saw that in the theatre I started giggling

[@GedanJ]

T- T "Joyyyyyy..."

[@batterysnatcher]

@@GedanJ”i know your in thereeeee”

[@SuperJman1111]

“Who behind all these positive- **annoyed stare** Joy, I know you’re in there!”

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

GREAT VIDEO INSIDE OUT TWO MEDIA

[@JAYZ-47465]

EXACTLYYYY im shocked nobody was pointing out how this scene might replicate the problems with animation workplaces, especially DISNEY

[@TheAssholeAspie]

The only thing I didn't like about the scene, and this is a nitpick... The mind person breaking the pencil, which is commonly used on Twitter by AI bros to talk about why AI is better than traditional media.

[@arandomguyscrolling2023]

funny bc it was made by Disney/Pixar

[@user-to4zl8wf2n]

@@arandomguyscrolling2023also Disney hasn’t had anything to do with it

[@randomguy9835]

That's kinda hypocritical

[@SSukram_]

​@@user-to4zl8wf2nthey own Pixar and somewhat fund it/benefit from it

[@mraussieman2263]

in the theatre I whispered to my sister "this scene is literally 1984"

[@Sebastian-bu7oj]

No way! Me and my brother cracked up upon seeing this scene! 😂 Having read 1984, and seen the Apple Ad, we knew exactly what the writers were doing. It was the funniest scene in the film

[@okOne_]

i literally though the same thing. 😲

[@hippo440]

my friend and i were laughing so hard in the theater because of it 😭

[@-jnfgaming-]

At 7:18 you can see a version of the distracted boyfriend meme in the top right

[@flyingfish7787]

Holy moly Never saw that before 😂

[@Misto_deVito6009]

Nice find!

[@LuckyWolfUnleashed]

lol 😂 that’s funny lol 😂

[@stellasoleclark5586]

ahahahah

[@bred269]

My god LETS FACKING GOOOOOO-

[@olleselin]

Wow, i've never even thought about how this scene portrays these executive issues within the animation industry. Good call!

[@orange_turtle3412]

Im really surprised disney let this into the final product. Its a straight up criticism of their scummy business practice and mistreatment of creative workers

[@drkryo2935]

Disney executives don’t think about any kind of deeper meaning behind anything they’re responsible for so they prolly just saw the scene and didn’t notice it was a subtle cry for help

[@lgasc]

Imagine the backlash when people would have found out it was censored.

[@melly-6694]

Wish could have been better

[@thomasdaywalt7735]

There fools and desperate

[@user-ts1kp5dj9q]

Its because they're untouchable, it doesn't matter how many times they do it. People say things but no action is done

[@thatstuff9597]

It was also referenced in the part where they had to quickly pick Riley’s career(they had to pick a balloon} and they saw art teacher and I believe one of the emotions said “under appreciated” maybe this was all a way for them to show how much the art industry doesn’t appreciate and mistreats the people working for the industry.

[@eesamees]

yup

[@amethystimagination3332]

I saw the movie the other night with my friend and we agreed that this scene was basically the entire creative team holding up a “help me” sign like Wile E Coyote.

[@MichaelHesterII1356]

I've never seen 1984 or the Apple commercial, so I just saw the scene as PIXAR calling out the unfair conditions of animators. It made me laugh the second it started and I adore the scene. I'm happy I'm not the only one who noticed.

[@akganimationstudioproducti3779]

You said the same thing I thought

[@MichaelHesterII1356]

@@akganimationstudioproducti3779 😃😁

[@J3RiC3LL]

The scene with the anxiety controls them to say every possible bad situation is so true. One time I was thinking some negative things that i thought would happen and then I thought a happy thought and all my thoughts turned happy

[@yasininn76]

That's what happened when you don't have crippling anxiety. Don't use that personal experience to give advice to anyone who has it

[@J3RiC3LL]

@@yasininn76 who said it was advice 💀. I just told the experience. Plus have you not payed attention to English class what you said has absolutely 0 grammar 🤣 “that’s what happened when you don’t have crippling anxiety🤓☝️” who said it was crippling anxiety plus. What you should have said was nothing but if I was as dumb as you but I did have good grammar I would say. That’s what happens (HAPPENS) when you don’t have crippling anxiety. And not say the second thing because the second half was absolutely dumb. Ok 👌 grow a brain not brain cancer 💀

[@otterwithadarkerside]

I love how this relates to that one Owl House scene where Luz calls out Disney(actually more than one scene)!

[@pancakedud69]

what part of owl house was that? cause i’ve watched the whole show and don’t remember that part.

[@arandomguyscrolling2023]

Oh Crikey.

[@circumplex9552]

I know theres the "if we had time for 20 more adventures" one but what else

[@aro-xv9eg]

​@@circumplex9552They have what's basically a rat that -steals- eats up story books and coughs them back out as projections. .. Sound familiar?

[@circumplex9552]

@@aro-xv9eg idk that might be a stretch considering its a major plot device, but if its officially been confirmed then

[@deanos32]

Yeah, when that scene came up in my watch party (yes we bought 60 dollars of movie tickets), we all mutually agreed that it was a Mappa Studios moment.

[@mintaroum.9096]

Lol the mappa studio moment, i'm gonna borrow that.

[@christopherrichards2350]

My brother and I saw Inside Out 2 last week and we loved it. I personally loved it because I'm an adult and cartoons are my special interest. I love Disney animated movies and tv shows like Inside Out, Turning Red, The Owl House, Amphibia and The Ghost & Molly McGee because of their themes of found family, friendship and acceptance of being different from others. This scene in Inside Out 2 was amazing I do hope that there will be major changes in the animation industry so that creators will get the creative freedom they deserve and for me personally, I do hope someday that we will see The Owl House and The Ghost & Molly McGee again.

[@adamkalb1]

That is what I hate about Chris Stuckmann refusing to criticize Madame Web; he has a point in addressing the troubles with studio executives not giving their directors and writers enough creative freedom, but he also gives the film creators too much sympathy to realize that what makes Madame Web so bad is through some faults of their own, not just Sony butchering a potentially good storyline.

[@Meebboi]

What about gravity falls? That was a goated show

[@yasininn76]

Oh please, the owl house is just another woke show.

[@Meebboi]

@@yasininn76 I know, I stopped watching it because it was woke

[@gunieupig543]

​@@Meebboi "Woke" 🤓

[@Twigs-workshop]

"I literal house of cards." I saw a tumble post breaking down the imagery a few weeks ago.

[@wak773]

i noticed this the first time in theaters. i joked to my friend (who was watching it with me) "is disney trying to say something?" i hope they get better, i really do.

[@k0mmand]

Pixar just became quite aware of how Disney is right now and I am all for it.

[@Aya_nami]

I’m an animation student, when the scene came in, my mom just glanced slowly at me and I just said “yep, that’s gonna be me!”

[@OneNamelessHero]

I hope you were talking Joy lol💀

[@MrFrodo2001]

When I saw Inside Out 2 I immediately thought of how similar this scene is to 1984. The cubicles match. The equipment looks very similar even though the speakwrite is very different from the equipment in Inside Out 2. Anxiety is the spitting image of Big Brother on the Telescreen. I am a book nerd so when you said this I cheered😂. Very well done on the video!

[@adamkalb1]

Into the Spider-Verse's animation is so amazing, that Sony CAN NOT expect Beyond the Spider-Verse to be finished just one measly year after Across the Spider-Verse. That is why it has been delayed by another four years, and I am sure it is worth the wait. In the meantime, fans of Peni Parker's voice actress can enjoy her new Disney Channel series, Kiff! Tomorrow is Halfway There Day, and Kiff Chatterley will be there to remind us that *🎵squirrels just want to have fun!🎵* July 1, 2024, 5:34pm

[@AdrianHernandez-rn1sq]

I will actually be so fucking upset if they decide to rush beyond the spider verse. It was so heartbreaking to hear how the animators of across the spider verse were working overtime and they were working on the film like right before it was set to come out. If they do that again…

[@avch1209]

In the first movie, Happiness tasks Fear with theorizing the worst scenarios for Riley's first day of school. Why does Anxiety exist if Fear was already responsible for worrying Riley?

[@leroypreston2973]

Anxiety said she plans for stuff later on. While fear catastrophically the first day of school. Anxiety is the worries about one's social life in the future after that day. All the ways in which things go wrong. Not just what goes wrong now, but all the bad consequences that will arise in the future and to fret over these things constantly. In short the difference between an immediate threat over a future threat

[@flyingfish7787]

Fear acts toward solid immediate threat (like alligators in front of you, which is already happening ) Anxiety acts towards future threats that may happen ( which may not even happen) The lower IQ one animal gets, the harder for it to have anxiety, because it requires imagination to picture threats that didn’t happen yet.

[@stellasoleclark5586]

fear is more of an instinctual response while anxiety takes control of things that may or may not happen.

[@emote3976]

that was just a one time thing. did Fear even do it many times? no, he only did that ONCE, and he only did that because Joy told him.

[@SkibidiOrang]

happiness?

[@freakinggenius5710]

I laughed so much at this scene, but then I remembered that it was a funny joke, but an unfortunate, real situation at working environments...

[@ZimtikiBar]

This movie was so damn good. In my personal opinion, it’s the second best Pixar sequel, right after Toy Story 2. This studio is proving that they can still pump out masterpieces when the right people are involved.

[@filmfocusmind]

It makes sense Pixar would do this. During an extreme deadline crunch for Toy Story 2, a man who worked at Pixar had to drop off his infant son at daycare before going to work. A few hours after getting to work, his wife (who also worked at Pixar) asked him if he dropped their son off. It turned out that he was so burnt out that he had left their son in the car in the middle of summer. The child survived, but Pixar took measures afterwards to prevent against burnout and maintain the health of their employees.

[@angeles252]

The Distracted Boyfriend

[@revinhatol]

Anxiety is also kinda NUTS!

[@Jazzin96]

I noticed this reference, but I was surprised a huge Animation titan like Pixar had enough guts to do this considering their close ties to Disney.

[@mremanaman]

Perfect explanation... also if we get more bizarre scenes and characters, mainly referring to the whole absurd scene of the emotions being bottled up in the vault and introducing two hilarious spoof characters, that's what I crave. We need MORE of that, we need more Lance Slashblade and Bloofys in the Pixar, and animation as a whole, roster. 🌌

[@chobies5383]

We need more TAWOG type stuff

[@mremanaman]

@@chobies5383 I’ll be honest, I was typing out that same statement until I changed my mind. I was saying we need more things like “The Shippening” episode, where they show off absurdities constantly… we need more of that in animation in general, META ABSURDITY!

[@user-to4zl8wf2n]

Bout time someone talks about this scene, I immediately got the reference when the chair was thrown at the screen

[@reeapurr1795]

same

[@Killerkyw]

woah, i thought this was a video from a 100k+ channel, congrats on the great quality!!

[@StoryTeller796]

From where I'm standing, personal and deeply meaningful storytelling was partially what got Disney out of their slump pre-renaissance and got them to fire on all cylinders with classics like... well, there were a lot of classical films that they then burned out through mostly poorly made TV show compilations that they advertised as sequel movies to those exact same classics. Movies like Mulan, The Little Mermaid, and a whole load of other movies that were both made by Disney animators, or were made and produced under Disney, mostly came out of films like Lupin the 3rd: The Castle of Cagliostro (The Great Mouse Detective) and a whole slew of American films and animated works were inspired by either older material or from the creator's own personal lives. And seeing how much Disney slights everyone for having original, fun ideas and has been deliberately sabotaging creativity for easy profits, even among things they now consider classics within their own catalog, shows just how little faith Disney has in entertainment as a whole. Disney does not want anything that the company was mostly founded on, they only want the illusion of their "Disney Magic" just so they can handwave anything anyone says against them, and whenever someone doesn't fall for their branding and aggressive propaganda tactics? They immediately crush them with Legal Action and a huge amount of cash at their own fingertips. Disney enjoys being on top of the more than the things that brought them to where they are now, and eventually, when everyone turns on them because of just how scummy their behavior has been and after everyone finds out that Disney is one of the more historically insidiously abusive partners that would rather settle for mediocrity than fire on all cylinders 7 times out of 10, Disney will have nothing but A.I. to carry them to victory, and even then, after everyone has left Disney or the only people left are those who are willing and enabled to take risks for Disney, the leavers will create things better than the A.I. and the keepers will not work with A.I. nor the demands of the higher-ups to be the people who make the corporate slop to keep up with needing movies to sell. After Disney is done from making almost everyone around them done with their nonsense, they'll realise how important it is to respect those who have ideas they want to share.

[@FitMuffin]

How did i not notice this as an animator??

[@boonie9448]

0:50 for me it reminded me of 1984 with that big screen

[@SaulCheeseMan]

It might seem crazy what in bout to say

[@petermacdonough9077]

This is also a reference from “1984” (1984)🧡

[@evilgamemichaelsperling8736]

7:18 Just notice background one of negative thought screen got boyfriend turned to the attractive girl meme 😂

[@that_iconicmouse]

Funny thing when I first whatched the movie, in this scene I literally had that thought and that made filled with mixed feelings, I'm so happy that I was not the only one to noticed that

[@nezaniatoimya]

All i could think of during this scene is "lmao 1984"

[@03mbc]

Man that seen is powerful and it fit show well how Disney is nowadays

[@terra_sussy255]

So Disney calls themselves out Neat

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

Disney called themselves most of the times out. Enchanted, Wish, this.

[@petergriffin1331]

​@@Simbala-bq5vythey even joked on themselves about singing in zootropolis

[@UrAvgUserBrowse]

Sometimes I can’t sleep because I’m too excited for something

[@user-AADZ]

It sucks to live in a world where most modern pixar films finish last!

[@Shinkx0]

7:18 Look at the scenario in the top right, I know it has nothing to do with what was mentioned in this video, but its a pretty cool reference.

[@mayracordero382]

I love this scene from inside out 2 and your videos are amazing!

[@1020-i7o]

i thought i was the only one who actually thought of this, i was with my uncle and i told him lol

[@jesustovar2549]

I thought it was a brilliant move, GENIUS just like you said, how Anxiety is the BIG BROTHER (Big Sister in this case?), the chair been thrown at the screen like if it was the hammer, it's also a nice homage to the most famous and most important ad ever (should be in the Library of Congress) especially considering how important Steve Jobs was for the history of Pixar, I wish he was alive to see this. Now I'm wondering if Ridley Scott saw Inside Out 2, what did he thought about this scene?🤔

[@cosmicbricks3339]

Xactly!

[@lesinhhung6999]

it's the Macintosh ad parody

[@TheSaberene]

As a new professional animator, this scene made me feel so validated. I'm glad people are finally speaking out about how insane some of our work practices are. Here's hoping the industry improves itself in the future!

[@dillonwright13]

I was personally horrified by this scene because I saw it as disrespect towards hand drawn animation, which is what is normally made on animation discs, which is what the mind workers are using in this scene. I’ve even made 2 videos explaining what they are on my channel. However, this video made me see the scene in a different light.

[@spaghettiboi33]

I got all the 1984 references on my first viewing in the theater!

[@Struckan2231.]

Anybody else noticed her rainbow shirt has the 5 main colors of each emotion in the first movie and then orange right after (for anxiety)

[@nikolitroikaledesmaescando6291]

hopefully, Disney will learn from their mistakes and maybe continue some of their old shows like the Owl House Gravity Falls, minus Amphibia because it already ended on a good note, but spin off or a a conic or two wouldn't hurt (though if they continue The Ghost & Molly McGee, they'll have to retcon the season 2 finale as a dream or something), but it's very unlikely Disney will do that unless they have a new CEO

[@cosmicbricks3339]

Agreed!

[@12MyNameIs]

My favorite sceneeee

[@markehlpetersen1040]

I felt the same way about this too!! I’m surprised not many people, if non, are talking about this

[@NuqsStuff]

You can tell they got creative freedom when they put a meme in one of the TV 7:18 (Jnfgaming's comment pointed it out)

[@mousetoons5514]

2:44 omg I just unlocked a deep memory of a reference to that ad in a mixels episode

[@Shellybean9105]

Great idea! I’m guessing the animator at 7:16 , the first one to imagine something new and positive for Riley, looks similar to the actual person who boarded this scene! Especially considering the features this being has that almost no one else does-the hat and sunglasses, the mustache and goatee, and the relaxed way they lean back in their chair with one leg crossed over the other. The only other animator with unique features like this is shown at 3:33 - 3:39 . Perhaps their design is based on another storyboarder?

[@anxia-tea5846]

i cant stop thinking “egg sandwich” when i watch that apple ad

[@davidzea-smith1417]

That scene was easily in the top 3 best scenes of the whole movie.

[@user-pw4pm3vk4g]

I actually never saw this! This is actually amazing! The scene itself was really cool and a great metaphor, but when you look at it that way, it becomes better.

[@Demonetization_Symbol]

I hate how Anxiety is the bad guy in this scene. She was just trying to help!

[@hellking3107]

I think that the point of anxiety. she trying to help but takes control of Riley’s mind . It’s what anxiety does it’s trying to make a 20 step plan that it thinks it’s going to work sometimes it is sometimes it’s not .

[@estherhinds6314]

What I love about this scene is that Anger and Joy work together in imagination land to help the mind workers find courage to fight anxiety. Because what happens is they start a rebellion, and the fact that rebellion is something driven by the dual emotions of anger and joy is brilliant! You don't usually think of those two emotions working together or harmonizing at all, but in real life, when they do, they spark rebellion for a better, more idealistic future and I love how Pixar pointed this out

[@cornerstonerailfanimation]

I feel 101 Dalmatian Street (Disney TV Animation/Passion Pictures) and The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (Viacom/Nickelodeon/DNA Productions/O Entertainment) are both underrated shows and deserve better, which I think is another great point to add in the context of the video here. Great work! 👍

[@adeinld8548]

It’s ironic that 1984 came out in 1984, during the Cold War and making fun of the Soviet union and United States.

[@lucindajackson27]

There’s a secret about inside out that bloopy is a reference to Micky mouse’s clubhouse

[@3xcsPerience]

when i saw the scene i LITERALLY went "Ayo that's Mappa"

[@bunbun-r9p]

The more creativity there is the better the movie/show will be

[@Ilikecatsl0l]

bro explained IN FULL DETAIL WITH APPLES an obvious scene

[@F1sh_CRACK3RZ]

The way anxiety was honestly hit an emotional nerve for me.

[@skyenight-by8yh]

The fact they went through *this* shows how Pixar differs from Disney, despite them being the same company, and I honestly think they nailed it here. 😅

[@reeapurr1795]

when i first watched this moment in the movie i immediately thought of what they meant by it and the specific details they added in this scene to compare with real life stuff GREAT VIDEO THIS NEEDS TO BE ENLIGHTENED MORE

[@DragonDogFilmsG]

The moment I saw this scene, I knew this was a cry for help from the animators, the most meta thing I’ve seen in Pixar in years

[@Gimmickvr]

2:02 big brother is watching

[@aiapihud4344]

Interesting video!

[@BatAmerica]

Ironically, Anxiety feeding Riley's worries throughout the night would increase her chances of failure due to Riley's brain being incapable of focusing clearly.

[@robynelliot8643]

Number one

[@Abbby-bd2sm]

I went to this with my friends. The friend sitting next to me, while this scene played, asked me if this scene was a cry for help.

[@underground-hp5ot]

the way i immediately asked my mom if she also thought this scene was referencing 1984

[@fritzsmith7148]

Not another essay video, I swear to god

[@usernameww]

left-middle-bottom monitor shows the boyfriend meme with the imaginary boyfriend and riley at 0:46

[@samseddmedia]

I never thought Pixar would do this! I actually watched this specific scene and thought it was actually a really neat scene. I never realized what it could mean outside of the message the movie was trying to portray, but I actually like the point of view you described about it.

[@joseafalvel]

that's how you make a great reference, it's cool and has its own charm even if the audience don't know the source material and those ones who are aware of its origin can enjoy it even more

[@lancesmith8298]

Or, hear me out, the idea of rebellion in a large consumer media product sells. No need for 4D mind chess, it’s a scene about anxiety and mass media, with maybe a hint towards animation in specific. Way shorter than eight minutes

[@animaniacman8385]

I said "hell yeah" out loud in the theaters when I realized this from that scene. The light boxes on the desks were a dead giveaway.

[@StranglerSix]

It's also funny that the drafts instantly become final rendered images, like, that's how easy and fast corpos think animations are done.

[@bujomoss]

Woah… this gives the scene a whole new perspective.

[@TimmehKillzz111]

When I first saw the scene, I realized the reference, but I didn't know it was implying something, cool explanation.

[@CaptainRaccoonWhitly]

I love how one of the possible scenarios for Anxiety references the Distracted Boyfriend meme.

[@rabbit_girl]

i also love the scene because in the first movie imagination world was happiness world and now anxiety over took it and made it hers

[@jalarasstudios414]

As a hobbyist animator, I wondered immediately if this was whoever was in charge of the scene's veiled way of airing their own frustrations with the work environment at Pixar/Disney.

[@stardra]

I hope that Disney can see how much money they get if they finally allow their employees creative freedom. I was so relieved seeing the sequel because it was the first movie in a while that felt so well executed in all the areas. The marketing was good, the characters were developed greatly, and the ending was something satisfying while being accurate. The writing had character and soul, and I really hope they can keep it up and redeem themselves as a company while treating employees better.

[@simplifyinggaming]

7:13 did anyone see the meme template in the top right???

[@novamythic_8]

I was so surprised that Disney of all people were like “yeah this looks like a good scene” when I first saw it like WHAT

[@ethanbuttimer6438]

They knew people would like it, and in the end, money is all that matters to them. Reminds me of 8 million merits (black mirror)

[@SleepyGemstone]

During that scene in the theater, I was very tempted to yell out “EAT THE GOVERNMENT!!!” Idk, just gave those vibes

[@tw1ststrpe216]

It’s almost like we want an actual good movie we can relate to. When joy said “maybe people have less joy when they grow up” it hit hard.

[@rottenroads1982]

The part where Riley “Wants” Joy is such a Pivotal Moment. Why? Because it showcases what emotions should actually do. People should NOT be controlled by their Emotions, rather, People have the power to chose how they feel. You Chose how to react to things, and you chose how to feel in situations.

[@akganimationstudioproducti3779]

I immediately knew this scene was an allegory for animators’ working conditions

[@irishash-2001]

I saw it as a reference to the apple Mac commercial

[@mrswhatdoyoucare2947]

as a person working in the game dev as an artist...i understood the scene when i first saw it in cinema

[@jcj268]

It feels like the leaders of the film industry are becoming real life examples of the characters from the Hitman games

[@user-te6rm7tw7d]

This is so obvious now that you’ve mentioned it but it went right over my head