This Retro Cyber Hatch Is A Quick & Quirky EV | 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5

With a 4.4 second 0-60 sprint, AWD, wide tires and cubist retro styling, the Ioniq 5 looks more like a futuristic Volkswagen to my eye than a Hyundai, but that's not a bad thing in my book. If you're looking for one of the best EVs in America today, and hands down the fastest charging, check the Ioniq 5 out.
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[@hockeymann88]

If you are doing research to actually buy a vehicle, Alex is the man.

[@ouch1011]

I got my Ioniq5 limited AWD at the beginning of May and LOVE it. I got lucky and found a dealer who wasn’t charging any mark-up. It’s my 6th EV (which included a Model 3 LR) and it is the best all around EV that I’ve owned. Not as efficient as the Tesla and the tech isn’t as good, but it is better at everything else. One note is that the front motor is also used in Eco mode during higher regen events, such as pulling the regen paddle or stepping moderately on the brakes. This helps reduce the uneasiness that can happen when doing big regen numbers on just the rear axle (imagine pulling the parking brake at freeway speeds). I’ve seen 200kw of regen on my Ioniq5 when slowing from high speeds and even more from the EV6 GT. This was likely a lesson learned from Tesla who does almost all of their regen with the rear motor only, and is thus limited in how much regen braking they can do and has also caused some really sketchy driving in poor weather. I’m surprised at how well the Ioniq5 handles. It doesn’t feel super confident because the suspension is fairly soft causing it to roll quite a bit and it will move around a lot over bumps, but if you know vehicle dynamics you will see the the grip and the balance is very good. The ride quality is substantially better than the Model 3 I used to have, but the grip and dynamics are just as good. The Tesla had less body roll when pushed 60-70% but Teslas kind of fall apart when pushed to 80%+. The Ioniq5 doesn’t. The stability control is too intrusive in the Eco and Normal modes (especially in eco) but much better in Sport mode. The efficiency of the Ioniq5 isn’t good, but the charging speed largely makes up for it. As long as you can plug into at least a 150kw charger (that actually puts out 150kw) you’ll spend less than 20 minutes charging and then be able to drive for 2.5-3 hours. For me, that works out great, because odds are that after 3 hours of driving, I’ll need to use the restroom or at least appreciate getting up for a stretch.

[@BioniqBob]

Nice review and with no video, good job.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Brian and I had an Ioniq 5 at about the same time, so I decided to put this video here and his over on EV Buyers Guide. Enjoy! Part 2 is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqTbenRuoqlqbLs

[@bugsnbikes]

heya, whats the quietest (road noise/wind noise/ all noise) EV of the latest ones youve found at highway speed??

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

@@bugsnbikes I think i'd be the Cadillac Lyriq

[@stephenj4937]

Alex, is there a reason your comparison chart (starting at 16:58) says "Compared to electric CUVs over $75,000"? I'm pretty sure you can't option the Ioniq 5 anywhere close to that price.

[@Anothernerdyloser314]

That video is unlisted still.

[@mikefarrington7141]

Love the car, and your reviews Alex. When showing off the glovebox, I wish you'd have mentioned how the US model didn't get the spacious drawer-style glovebox that other parts of the world got. Hyundai of America stripped a lot of great little features for the North American market, it's a real shame.

[@aerob1033]

If they absolutely must tuck the door handles away to add a couple miles of range, I prefer a manual solution like this one even if it's mildly awkward. Seems less likely to break and less expensive to fix than the power solutions.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Happy to see your review up, Alex! I've been a big fan of your channel for a very long time

[@aliendroneservices6621]

Looking at this car brings the 1987 feels. Reminds me of Nissan Pulsar NX.

[@jeffreywong6842]

Review is spot on! I'm in CA, ended up buying a limited trim in NY for MSRP and drove it back to CA over a month ago. Well worth it. As Alex said, doesn't matter if the range is not that high since it DC charges so fast.... and if come 2 free years of unlimited Electrify America DC fast charging.

[@treads2595]

Do you mind mentioning the name of the dealer that you went to?

[@djp1234]

Hyundai and Kia have been making the best looking cars on the market for the past 5 years.

[@SpirusFilms]

I agree but I think Mazda is up there too

[@damilolaakanni]

Not quite. The Sonata and elantra are quite ugly, the KIA Sportage is much worse. Other than those three they make some beautiful cars (don't like the differently painted C pillar in the new Niro though). But they can't beat Mazda though.

[@williamlambert5610]

@djp I agree, and Genesis too, which have one of the most stunning designs ever. Ever since Hyundai/Kia revolutionized the mainstream car design industry in 2009 with their Fluidic Sculpture aesthetic, they're still pushing boundaries.

[@SamsungLGHyundaiKia]

@@damilolaakanni go outside and see in perseon not internet, they are best looking cars.

[@land7776]

I saw one of these recently. Even before he mentioned it, I thought it looked like what a designer in the 1970's/80's imagined a future car would look like.

[@danielbliss8014]

Along the lines of what Harris Mann actually designed and put into production with the Leyland Princess/Wolesley 18-22 (1975-1981), only that British Leyland's budget cutting of the time prevented him from giving it the hatchback configuration it deserved. It sure LOOKS like a hatchback though designed along these lines; it's front-wheel drive; HydroGas suspension; mid-size interior space in a compact length car; all the engine options, even the inline six, are transverse mounted, etc. Hyundai of course here delivers a hatch, even more interior room, and quality control and a powertrain unimaginable to BL.

[@flavio17021979]

Many thx for yet another great video 👍 I'm in love with this1! Unfortunately price tag is killing all mine hopes of ownership 😔

[@MrTurboRotary]

Thank you! Very well done report and as always, top notch!👍👍👍👍👍

[@longochu8588]

It would be truly retro to have the front center 6th seat! The dash design has room for it.

[@firefalcoln]

It would be a cool option at the least. They could provide an armrest, drink holder area and storage cubby within the backrest of the front center seat when it folds down like a lot of older trucks or SUVs that could seat 3 in the front row.

[@COSolar6419]

Power door handles came standard on our 2022 Ioniq5 SE AWD base model. You can also set them to open automatically as you approach with the key fob. Also there is a voice command option to operate the heated seats. It works okay but we usually turn them on before driving. After almost 4,000 miles of driving our overall efficiency is 4.4 miles/kWh.

[@harryaxe5167]

Thanks' Alex. Very useful review!!

[@rog351]

Yes, I really like the ability to use a magnet to attach a note beside the gage cluster. nice touch Hyundai

[@isolatedintegration1154]

Thanks for another phenomenal review Alex! Any chance you can get your hands on the Genesis GV60 to review?

[@rkgsd]

I like that you revisit the same model of car for an updated review/analysis.

[@kens97sto171]

Great informative video as always.. If you want good solid info on any car.. Alex is the person for that. Really nice car.. you confirmed what i had heard that the Ioniq 5 has the larger interior. I wish the heat pump was available in all trims. I would love RWD large battery pack, with the Heat Pump. I live in a pretty mild climate.. but it gets cold enough to need heat in a car. a heat pump would still be much more efficient that resistive heaters.

[@TheCapn23]

Very cool, love what Hyundai/Kia have been doing the last few years!

[@Red3yeX]

Can't wait to get mine after a 2 year wait lol

[@timdsd]

I paid Hyundai corporate $100 for a reservation back in May, 2021. Still waiting in southern California.

[@barryw9473]

No glovebox in the Bz4x, but it comes with the wheels falling off feature.

[@naveenthemachine]

The bz4x and rz450e are virtually nonexistent vehicles. Pretend they don’t even exist since both get destroyed by the Korean evs in just about every way possible

[@barryw9473]

@@naveenthemachine sure. I have a few in the SF Bay Area, but now they’ve all been parked for safety purposes.

[@nothere572]

And awful charging speed

[@alexanderjokkmok396]

This is one of the best Ioniq5 review I have seen. 👍😉👍

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

I would actually like to buy one in the Limited AWD trim level however dealers are marking them up to prices that are ridiculous. I found a few dealerships in Southern California and Northern California that do sell them at MSRP but they have a long waiting list. I have my name on all their lists. Most people drop out so hopefully it shouldn’t be too long.

[@jml9550]

Yep. Most of the dealers here wants $5K markup.

[@_TrueDesire_]

meanwhile in Sweden they cancelled all MY22 orders :( it's not possible to get one at all this year.

[@jml9550]

@@_TrueDesire_ here in the US if you want to pay MSRP, it will be 9 months to 1 year wait time. I also placed a reservation on a Lucid Air Pure but Lucid is telling me it is most likely won’t be ready until end of 2023……….

[@scottlee4664]

Could u share the dealer sell at msrp in California? I may get gv70 instead

[@jml9550]

@@scottlee4664 I called Dublin Hyundai and one of the Salesperson I forgot his name they “may” sell at MSRP but wants me in the dealership. I didn’t go since i wasn’t 100% sure if I really wanted the Ioniq 5.

[@ChrisPollard]

I was a little unsure of the actual exterior size and interior space until I finally got to see one/sit in one in person. It definitely feels spacious inside. The adjustability of the back seats is really nice - and I quite like the placement of the rear seat air vents. Not the best if you had a 3rd person in the middle, but great for the passenger on each side. I like the step-in height - but wish the door sill wasn't quite so wide. I sense a lot of dirty pant legs in winter. The Ioniq 5 remains high on my list of future vehicles to eventually replace my wife's Equinox. I've been very impressed with Hyundai since getting my Santa Cruz last fall. Styling is awesome, the matte grey paint that's available looks very cool, but I think it would be a nightmare to own and maintain. I think Hyundai really hit this one out of the park. The sales numbers show that a lot of folks agree too!

[@heymike7037]

I use the magnet board to hold my phone. I put the phone there when I use CarPlay and just run the USB cable across the steering wheel to it. It works pretty well and keeps things tidy.

[@evingmadeez5008]

I Love the look but at $ 45k might be out of my price range.. next yr Bolt might be the right price for me... Can't wait to see your review

[@EM.1.]

The Bolt will be all-new next year or are your think the new Equinox EV?

[@dhruvb38]

45k + 10k standard markup +5k tax

[@skywalker2852]

@@EM.1. I think he's referring to the 2023 Bolt price reduction

[@ouch1011]

@@dhruvb38 not all dealers are charging a mark up (unlike Tesla who’ve increased the price of the Model 3 by more than $10k in the past year). I bought mine last month with no mark up. Not sure what you’re referring to with the tax, but I’m assuming that changes state to state. My local tax was about $500. On top of that, I get $2500 back in cash from local incentives and a $7500 federal tax credit (which I will receive in full). To the OP, I own an Ioniq5 and a Bolt EUV. The Ioniq is a better car in most ways, but the Bolt is excellent for the price. The let downs are the seat quality/comfort and the charging speed. If you’re in the car for less than 2 hours and don’t need to fast charge, it is a good car and a great value. I’ve road tripped my Bolt many times and it is definitely possible to do, just slow.

[@dhruvb38]

@@ouch1011 dealerships not marking up is uncommon from everything we've been hearing about the buying experience. I didn't get markup either but I had to negotiate. State tax sure, depends. And I wouldn't count tax credits because when you take the loan or lease, you're taking it on the full price, not minus the tax credits. Sure you can pay it off later with that amount but you don't feel that benefit for a year or however long it takes to get into your account.

[@dstln]

The magnet could be for magnet phone holders (some people need them for certain hands-free apps not compatible with Android Auto/Carplay

[@tennturbo]

Yeah I was wondering myself if the magnet would be strong enough to hold a phone. I use a magnet phone holder currently and it’s really convenient.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

It's not actually a magnet, it's just a metal plate with fabric on top so you can use a magnet with it, but no magnet is provided from the factory

[@mrtyphoon8025]

I like the look of the car - reminds me of a Lancia Delta Integrale, and the 0-60 time is impressive. Unfortunately the base (SE) long range model at $44k is over my price range, and it sucks that you must step up to the Limited trim for a sunroof, power passenger seat, and cooled seats

[@foxmulderms]

sooo lancia!! The moment I saw this I remember the rally version of lancia :)

[@HidingAllTheWay]

That's because it draws pretty heavy inspiration from original Hyundai Pony *concept car* (and not production model Alex showed), which, like Lancia Delta Integrale, was designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro.

[@markmiller3279]

@@HidingAllTheWay And also the Golf. So the resemblance with that is also no coincidence. He did some great work in the Seventies. I could do without some of the pointless details on the Ioniq5, but I love the overall shape.

[@_TrueDesire_]

8:02 Hyundai Sweden said we will get battery heating in an update this summer.

[@carlwilson4425]

I like the "4 dots" in the steering wheel... A very original way to have a corporate logo without being obvious. In Morse Code, four dots is an "H"...

[@harryaxe8153]

Navigation is a split screen, Alex!!!!

[@mglmouser]

Looks more like a Lancia Delta. I just received my delivery date for my i5: Aug 10th '22. In Canada, the heat pump is standard for the mid trim up. Only lowest trim and battery doesn't get the heat pump.

[@jetpuffed47]

Excellent review - makes it hard to choose between the Kia EV6 and Hyundai Ionic 5.

[@anniecameron6794]

Well impressed with the handling 😅

[@EM.1.]

Alex, I sat in the IONIQ 5 and felt the bolstering in the front driver's seat uncomfortable. Maybe the LTD is more comfortable?

[@tjs114]

Can the link to the pricing and comparisons video (which can't be searched for) be added as a link in this video description? Those embedded video links don't work consistently in all browsers- including google's own chrome. EDIT: Thank you for adding the link!

[@k2229]

Thank you Alex

[@SvikDK]

For peoble like me, living in colder climate, and wanting to keep rust away from the brakes, the no regen in lvl 0 is perfect. Guess thats why it works like it does ;)

[@TheOriginalBumper]

Those headlights are a tribute to the eyes of Galactus .

[@toyotaprius79]

It's a monster size of a car

[@cencio_1976]

I'm confused about the door handles. You say in order to get the powered handles you need the top trim, but you are reviewing the Limited trim already (top trim)

[@jay5729]

We love our base model. It has the auto handles.

[@peternguyen2323]

Add a black plastic airdam and skirt and you have a bonified Shelby omni GLH.

[@stevenjames1138]

This Ioniq 5 is a really attractive, cool, and distinctive vehicle. If I was in the market for an EV, this would be the one I choose.

[@bobwood63]

When are you going to do the GV60?

[@chuckwalla2967]

Those backwards door handles are a possible deal breaker.

[@kevinev9431]

Alex, will you put crash safety scores or comparisons as part of your reviews? It saves lives and people just assume that everything is equally safe.

[@MrNightpwner]

Are those the production rims?

[@paulishak5673]

Can you review Audi Q4 etron?

[@lplt]

i am 8 months into my 18 month reservation for this, i might just put a reservation down for the ioniq 6 on day 1

[@scottlee4664]

That's a sedan though. You can try gv60 if u like ioniq5

[@lplt]

@@scottlee4664 no rebates in Canada for the GV60, I like the interior but the exterior doesn’t do it for me

[@scottlee4664]

@@lplt understand I want gv70 the most but if it is the same price as rz450h I mostly will get lexus instead. Gv60 is little bit smaller and sportier than ioniq5

[@rusack7174]

"Shockingly" fast.

[@Ethan7s]

So the charge rate shrinks when cold. Can relate.

[@sgrant9814]

Hate flush handles...the answer to a problem no one had nor asked about.

[@kolt9051]

Now that they are getting rid of the Bolt, If I get an EV instead of the Maverick, this is what I would get. Everyone should check out Technology Connections video on the Ionic 5!

[@rondail5675]

For value, I like the Ioniq5. For a higher cost, I would like the Cadillac Lyriq.

[@harryaxe5167]

No rear wiper? When backing out of a busy shopping mall when it's raining?????

[@stanmorgal1775]

Very good review. But suggest you keep your eyes on the road. Your viewers don’t require you to keep glancing at them (the camera).

[@jaypeffer2183]

@Alex - How concerned are you about the battery safety, reliability of the Hyundai batteries?

[@Luma_29]

Imo this car is what solidified Hyundai as saying ‘Okay this isn’t 10 years ago, we’re relevant now and you’ll respect us’

[@venom5809]

Super confused why everyone keeps saying this looks like a VW Golf, it doesn't, it looks almost exactly like a VW Corrado.

[@BioniqBob]

Good review, you might like to slow down a bit, less mistakes happen. E.g. 13:50

[@Sandiegocruiser]

Waiting for Alex to review gv60 before I decide on which one

[@NewCastleIndiana]

I really like it. Had one out almost a month ago.

[@Sandiegocruiser]

@@NewCastleIndiana the gv60?

[@NewCastleIndiana]

@@Sandiegocruiser yes. Unless I’m missing something in your question. Do you know the one with the crazy rotating snow globe thing in the middle.

[@Sandiegocruiser]

@@NewCastleIndiana yes - how did you get to spend time in it were you overseas

[@NewCastleIndiana]

@@Sandiegocruisersome customer cars have already been delivered. There’s a variety of ways to have early access to cars. Average every day folks have seen and touched the new BMW XM and the new BMW M2, as well. Me included. Just get involved in all the clubs and make friends with your dealers etc. manufacturers are always trying to get people to be aware of the cars they’re trying to sell

[@MikeLoomis]

Why does the range for the dual-motor version drop so drastically when the front* (*edit, see below) motor is mostly turned off? I wonder how accurate that 250-ish estimate is in real-world driving.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

It's the front motor that turns off in the dual motor version actually. The reason for the range drop is the extra weight of the front motor, the wider tires on most AWD models and the friction losses of the front differential which are lower because of the motor disconnect but still there.

[@MikeLoomis]

@@AAutoBuyersGuide Sorry. That was a typo. I meant front motor, not rear. I'm surprised I didn't catch that! But thanks for the explanation and I enjoy your in-depth analysis.

[@Hans-gb4mv]

One of my favorite EVs, but the thing I miss most from the original Ioniq is the incredible efficiency of that vehicle. It's almost like the designers of this car didn't care.

[@CumBrianFries]

Oh, they did care alright. But they cared more about style and perforamce this time. The origjnal Ioniq hybrid/plug-in hybrid looks like a bar of soap and perform like a Prius.

[@Hans-gb4mv]

@@CumBrianFries the original electric Ioniq leaves a Prius (and many others) behind at a red light.

[@dstln]

In one sense, I agree. The EV efficiency is just not that great, my PHEV has better in EV mode. But they know what will sell, and that's speed, style, and cargo capacity over raw efficiency

[@ouch1011]

Trying to compare the efficiency of an original Ioniq to the Ioniq5 is like trying to compare the efficiency of a Prius to an Explorer. It’s apples and oranges. I wish the efficiency of the Ioniq5 was better, but when you have a big car with a lot of interior space, efficiency goes down. That can be seen even when just going between a standard Prius and Prius V (the wagon shape of the Prius V led to substantially worse efficiency) Also, they were going for a particular style (80s boxy) and that is hard to make aerodynamic. The EV6 is better in this regard but gives up too much interior headroom. The Ioniq6 is looking to be a much more aerodynamic (and probably more efficient) option.

[@shankhadeepshome3982]

Tesla definitely has blended braking (in autopilot), recent fw even shows you the difference between each.

[@zsm5833]

idk about the manual handle solution, the nuisance i have is when you pick up ppl that have never got into a Ioniq 5, they dont know how to open it. bc this is similar to the model 3/Y design(owner here). and if you cannot explain it properly, you have to get out of the car and explain how to open it again by yourself.

[@landshass2849]

17:30 watch out! Tesla is watching.

[@socan7182]

Can’t even buy them here in Canada and if you can it’s $10000 more starting, goes for all EVs.

[@GlitterGuru]

How’s this different from the other 30min review of this exact same car?

[@philhyde983]

I own an EV6 and functionally I think it is cheap that the power door handles aren't standard.

[@_TrueDesire_]

i would just spec the standard handles 🤷🏼‍♂️ these doesn't work great in Sweden in the winter.

[@philhyde983]

@@_TrueDesire_ The technician at my dealer told me they have seen ice cause problems with the standard handles. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@pewpewpower]

Why are the scores compared to CUVs over $75k? Shouldn’t it be compared to CUVs under $60k?

[@mogulmayhem]

I want this car, but I'm not paying over sticker. I also don't know what to expect in winter climates.

[@billisdewillis5]

30-50% range loss depending on outside temperature…if it leaves a garage and parks in a garage or is outside all the time etc.

[@vancity2349]

Hi Alex, love your reviews. Two comments; 1. It does not have a rear wiper? Thoughts? 2. Does it have over the air updates? This is one of the best features from Tesla.

[@prestonwoods8197]

No rear wiper. Don't know how it'll perform in the rain yet. I just got the car in SEL version. It appears to have OTA updates for infotainment.

[@vancity2349]

@@prestonwoods8197 I think not adding a rear wiper was a design choice but in real world it doesn't work as per other reviews. The convenience and simplicity of over the air for all updates is extremely appealing to me.

[@billisdewillis5]

Not having a rear wiper was quite dumb…it gets completely opaque in our winters and would still benefit from having one during rainfall.

[@Drogos79]

Design is clearly inspired by Lancia Delta Integrale

[@SamsungLGHyundaiKia]

Lancia is inspired by Pony, and Ioniq5 is remake of Pony.

[@paul5683]

At 50,000 dollars at the dealer and depreciation of 20000, you have to save a lot of gas to make this a deal. Maybe I'll find a used one in a few years.

[@foxmulderms]

It is a Lancia Delta

[@sybsygstgstsgysg5330]

Idk I kinda like the retro body look

[@drmcallis]

Ignoring the "WARMER" button just below the "Climate" one is indeed a way to make you have to go through the climate screen to control the seat warmer/cooling...

[@kevincinnamontoast3669]

I love Hyundai's 4 door AMC Gremlin. Hope they do a LEVI'S edition.

[@hardyk2010]

Absolutely no sunroof on the SEL trim is a crime. Usually they have an SEL convenience variant with one Even the $19k Elantra SEL has a basic sunroof.. Quite a shame coming from Hyundai

[@nothere572]

Agree, they should at the very least add it as an extra package

[@bikingmoments]

255 tires should have yielded a shorter 60-0 than 120 ft…

[@_BrandonCross]

Anyone with the RWD model can comment on how their real world range has been?

[@mhilderbrand7693]

It is really tough to tell. Strictly city driving, I could get really close to the 300 mile range. Unfortunately, once a week or so, I go on the highway at 75-80 mph, and this blows my economical range numbers! The other thing that makes it hard to know, is I don’t drive until 0% charge. Sometimes I charge when there is 10% battery left, and sometimes 70% battery left. Makes it hard to know how much “true” mileage you get. The onboard estimated varies from 230 - 330 miles when the charge reaches 100%

[@Amirhesamyan]

Dealer markups.

[@saadtheman1]

More than 280,000 Hyundai and Kia vehicles are recalled over fears they could catch on fire if parked inside😂

[@Rockybalboa541]

Not the evs though

[@AceEverett]

Just had to steal first comment for yourself, huh?

[@Kamikazekims]

they're going to be a N version giving you 560 horse power

[@rondail5675]

Put regular door handles!!

[@harryaxe5167]

Electrical door handles? What happens when the battery is dead? Can't even get (into) my car??????

[@ouch1011]

No, then they operate just the same as any old door handle. There is a keyhole behind the handle to manually unlock. Same as any new car.

[@phych]

One thing that I dislike about Hyundai is the lack of a lock on their glove compartments. I have a 2015 Sonata which has a lock, so doing away with it frustrates me quite a bit, especially because I really like their vehicles.

[@BillyBobDingledorf]

Or they could put normal door handles on EVs.

[@billisdewillis5]

If only, eh?

[@alextube1101]

#pixelpony

[@emrahny]

better car for the money than M3 and or MY. still full tax credit and much smooth run

[@BillyBobDingledorf]

Why not the bigger battery and the smaller motor? They need to ask me before they define the options. ;)

[@rkgsd]

Size-wise, it's definitely not. SUV height like the ID4, Mach E or Model Y, however it has a very long wheelbase and a wide stance. It's hatchback car just like the Kia EV6.

[@ouch1011]

I’ve been in all of those cars and while the Ioniq5 maybe doesn’t ride as high as like the ID4, it has just as much or more passenger room than all of them. It has less cargo room than the Model Y and Mach-E because it is much shorter than those two. None of them are really SUV height and none would be any use off road.

[@finalmage6]

The easy solution is to just have normal handles. I would love an electric car that just dispenses with the frivolous design (inside and out) and is just otherwise "normal".

[@ouch1011]

You want a Chevy Bolt then.

[@finalmage6]

@@ouch1011 Personally, I feel even the Bolt is over designed in it's attempt to appeal to a certain type of buyer. It is however much less so than most of the competition. The Nissan Aryia looks nice, but has an interior that tries way too hard to reinvent HVAC controls. Give me buttons and knobs over touch controls any day.

[@billisdewillis5]

@finalmage6 - if only the EV designers could do away with: funky door handles, glass roofs, faux leather (cloth is fine), gigantic wheels with low profile tires, and massive screens with no buttons for functions that most certainly can be dedicated ones…did I miss anything?

[@finalmage6]

@@billisdewillis5 Let's just say that those things shouldn't be the entire reason someone buys the car 😉 By all means, keep your funky door handles if it matches the esthetics of the car, but standard full glass roofs and funky, oftentimes clunky HVAC controls are not the most enticing IMO.

[@edwardzdankiewicz9068]

All the new kia\Hyundai\Genesis stuff looks good but it also looks extremely fragile. One 2 mph bump from someone parallel parking in front of you looks like it would cost thousands of dollars to fix. If a road rock hits one of these exotic, oh so sculptural headlights, thousands of dollars to fix.

[@heinuchung8680]

Who is Alex where is his son Brian.

[@seagullsbtn]

Until parity on price with ICE occurs, it’s really hard to make an economic argument in favor of electric cars, regardless of brand

[@thomas735]

Agreed. This thing is literally 15k more than a Rav4

[@dstln]

@@thomas735 7500 tax credit, strongly reduced maintenance costs, and extremely low daily fuel costs (and some places have up to 7500 additional rebates). Try to look at purchases more like an wealth-building investment, not a day 1 cost comparison.

[@thomas735]

@@dstln 7500 tax credit is going away. Hybrid is actually cheaper to run in a lot of places.

[@dstln]

@@thomas735 The Hyundai group is not even close to having the $7500 credit expire, not sure where you're getting your information from.

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@@dstln next administration will axe that, subsidies for the rich are always a horrible idea.

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I want to buy one but no one has this car. No one can buy this. Please increase the production.