This Rig SUCKS! Dropshot/Bounce/Cannonball Rig

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Huge Fly Fisherman

Huge Fly Fisherman

Күн бұрын

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@danieltracy7136
@danieltracy7136 2 жыл бұрын
I started fly fishing last year (here in Utah) and have watched a number of your videos--which I find entertaining and informative. One observation I have is that fly fishing can be complicated if you listen to too many people, you discover different opinions that are confusing. Reminds me back when I golfed--ages ago--as everyone has their opinion about your grip, your swing, etc. Last year I heard on one of your videos that "there are no rules in fly fishing", so that is what I do. I just enjoy getting out for a few hours, mostly by myself (I tend to be a loner), looking for fish, listening to the water rushing and the birds, spending time untangling my line, searching for pools to cast into. Perhaps I have missed a lot of fish, but even on awful casts I have hooked one....there have been times I stumble and my fly & line drop into the water and bingo! A fish! it is a great day just to get out. If I catch a fish or two or more, than the day is even better. I am having a blast.
@jeremysafford
@jeremysafford 2 жыл бұрын
Good point about listening to too many people. Sometimes I contemplate just selling all my gear with all the contradictory info out there. I’ve primarily stuck to Ben and Alvin for tutorials. Oh and of course father Tom
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, man are you me? Except for the "last year" part (me 47 yrs. flailing away) and the golfing part. Mark Twain called it "a lovely walk ruined"! Wonder what he'd say about fly fishing, ................was it even a thing in US back then? Hang on to that "first year attitude", they will try to insert many different attitudes into you over time as you pursue this sport, yes it's a sport not a "life style". ;D
@danieltracy7136
@danieltracy7136 2 жыл бұрын
@@rizzoblam It's a joke.
@danieltracy7136
@danieltracy7136 2 жыл бұрын
@@rizzoblam "lighten up Francis"
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 2 жыл бұрын
@@rizzoblam Right, there Are no rules for flyfishing, but there may also be no rules for You Tube posters. If you have a channel you can make your own rules, within reason, of course, to get past big brother watching you to see if you say bad stuff against the current administration. Stuff like we are heading for a recession/stagflation and you all better get your fishing gear NOW***, before it doubles or triples in price next year, like gas has in some places, like CA,&NY, in the past year! ;D LOL *** yes, that part seriously!
@flyfishjones
@flyfishjones 2 жыл бұрын
I hate nymphing as much as the next guy, but I learned drop shotting from Our unquestionable leader Kelly Galloup, and caught my PB rainbow. It casts way better than putting the weight ahead of the flies and gets down quicker than a beadhead. I prefer swinging wets and slapping hoppers, but when it's freezing out I dont have much a choice.
@Hrogthar
@Hrogthar 2 жыл бұрын
How DARE you spread this sacrilege. Tom Rosenbauer is our unquestionable leader.
@rickmcclure9386
@rickmcclure9386 2 жыл бұрын
For sure you can't "fly cast" this rig if by fly cast you mean casting with tight loops but heck indicator nymph rigs, bounce or not you can't "fly cast" a tight loop and not tangle. The thing about the "bounce rig" or drop shot rig that makes sense is that it eliminates the hinge point between split shot above the flies. With the weight above the flies, before the strike is registered on the indicator, the weight has to be lifted so that the hinge point is eliminated. With drop shot nymphing the strike is registered sooner as the flies are already in a straight line with the indicator. It's just more sensitive. Not really sure I get the tangles part. I haven't noticed anymore propensity to tangle than a rig where the weight is above the flies. Just water load or cast with a real open loop.
@claudioaguilar8534
@claudioaguilar8534 2 жыл бұрын
I love drop shot nymphing. I mostly use unweighted nymphs on a very short tag (pro tip too!!)so that the weight is at the end on the splitshot.....never get tangled except when it's windy.... I would say 80 % of my nymphing fishing is with this system and it's by far my favorite one...anyways I suck at fly fishing too.....😁
@LarryTullisFlyFishing
@LarryTullisFlyFishing Жыл бұрын
The weight on the bottom of this "bounce" rig slows the presentation down so it's a more natural drift speed along the bottom and also keeps the flies at a good level for feeding trout for a longer period. A little "bounce nymphing" history: I have fished the Provo River since the early 70's and talked to old timers that were using a version of the "bounce rig" since the 1930's. This is pre-monofilament days and they used cat gut, silk lines and bamboo fly rods, without indicators or bobbers, and often fished with bait or artificial flies interchangeably. I'm sure it was used elsewhere too, but was written about as a Provo River technique. With the advent of nylon monofilament and better spinning reels after World War II, many of these anglers switched to spinning tackle to do "bounce nymphing", which allowed them to cover more water with flies and catch more fish. When I started fishing on the Provo in the 70's most of the "experts" fished flies on spinning tackle (or underspin or automatic fly reels on a flyrod). Still no bobbers, just bouncing by feel. The next evolution was using the thin fly lines called "Cortland Deep Nymphing Line" in the 80's to help get better drifts while "high stick nymphing". It's an early version of what most people call Euro nymphing now, that expert Joe Humphries made popular on Pennsylvania streams too. As strike indicators became popular in the early 80's, anglers added them to the Provo bounce rigs. The next natural adaptation was using a more modern fly fishing outfit with a strike indicator and a bounce rig. As the Provo got fished hard, the trout became very fast fly tasters and the indicator really helped quick strike detection. It's like combining tight line nymphing from the weights to the indicator and slack line nymphing from the indicator to the rod. In the last 10 years or so, I have also used bounce nymphing rigs on tenkara rods to help get more natural drifts and it works extremely well! Rig however you want but bounce nymphing works very well. My 2 cents worth!
@bumpsandriffles1041
@bumpsandriffles1041 Жыл бұрын
My thought has always been that you can detect subtle strikes better because the fish doesn't have to move the spilt shot for your strike indicator to drop. That bobber goes down as soon as the fish gets the fly in their mouth (in theory). However, I usually get fed up with the droppers and after one tangle just go back to a normal in line rig. This is a solid rig when you need a LOT of weight to get down fast, but I usually just go find softer and shallower water.
@davids11131113
@davids11131113 4 ай бұрын
My streams are deep, been drop shot nymphing for decades even with a spinning rod with a float. Rare to snag the sinker for me, I just tie a surgeons loop on the end then snip off all but the knot, then use whatever reusable shot I use eagle claw BB sinkers.
@DyslexicTurtle
@DyslexicTurtle 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of split shot, I just tie 10-11 tippet rings at the end of my rig. Isn't quite as heavy as split shot but it does the job and I don't have to worry about tying a knot to keep my split shot from falling off.
@jasonwalker1959
@jasonwalker1959 2 жыл бұрын
Tangles. The most important lesson for tangles is realizing that 75% of the time it's faster and less frustrating to simply cut and start over.
@tomlevine9889
@tomlevine9889 2 ай бұрын
Here's my question. I think the drop shot rig has its applications. Winter deep water, etc. But how do you store the rig while walking? I find that the drop shot wraps itself around the rod and gets all tangle up.
@TefZee
@TefZee Ай бұрын
Good questions. I take the split shot off until I reach my spot then crimp it on hope that helps
@johnlaudenslager706
@johnlaudenslager706 2 жыл бұрын
I started using this rig 20+ years ago. Copied it off someone who was catching more fish. Liked it immediately because I snagged bottom less, and I thought it made fish hooking sense because of how it kept rod-to-fly tension, and I thought I caught more fish. But after a few years I got tired of tangles around feisty fish, so went back to weight above. Though Kelly Galloup and I guess plenty of others including euronymphers who put the heavier fly on point, think there is no bad price to pay, I'm with Huge - prefer weight above.
@maxsmith1515
@maxsmith1515 8 ай бұрын
If you fish it in line the weight will pull your flies. Especially if you fish barbless. If you fish tags, not so much. I don't love the dropshot, but I did learn to fly fish on the Provo and yes we call it the Provo Bounce Rig.👍
@svutility1
@svutility1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Utah boy who has used this rig before. I've had raging success with it in specific scenarios, but I don't fish it often. It is money in high flow scenarios where you need to slow down the fly, and I've landed really big fish on it when I would have never got the flies in front of the fish without it, but it definitely has its drawbacks and isn't my primary setup. Never lost a fish on it, but have definitely had to cut it loose when a big fish starts rolling in the net. That being said, the fish likely wouldn't have been stabbed in the face without it those days
@calebbecker9706
@calebbecker9706 2 жыл бұрын
im so glad to learn there are no rules in fly fishing! in def going to put a live nightcrawler on my nymph the next time i go out :)
@bssaassin1900
@bssaassin1900 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie as a teen I did that for super finicky bass that I could only seem to catch on live bait. Since then I use wooly buggers and small streamers and do well
@johnm674
@johnm674 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben. I have only used that rig when is hit a spot of the river that is narrow, deep, and current is fast. So in short when I don't think a beaded nymph sinks in time before the current takes it to the end of the drift.
@SteveDave5763
@SteveDave5763 2 жыл бұрын
I was always wondering what underwear a huge fly fisherman wears, i learn so much from this KZbin.
@brushybandit4610
@brushybandit4610 2 жыл бұрын
DUDE!! This works with the right type of fly rod, makes casting MUCH easier. Some call it a spinning rod but it'll make that baby FLY!!
@Fisher_Munro
@Fisher_Munro 2 жыл бұрын
You're right about everything! The perfect fly fisherman who never does anything different from my exact rigs.
@puristonthefly3308
@puristonthefly3308 2 жыл бұрын
Who would of known that some splitshot and tippet rings would cause such a rift in the fly fishing community.
@todd1hd
@todd1hd 2 жыл бұрын
@@rizzoblam I'm thinkin, from your comments, you should probably watch someone else's channel.
@Hrogthar
@Hrogthar 2 жыл бұрын
@@rizzoblam It's not a hard stance lmao. Have you ever dogged on your friends? Had fun? Engaged in sarcasm? If you answered no to any of these, you might need to rethink your perspective and not take things so seriously.
@suchabadkitty1293
@suchabadkitty1293 Жыл бұрын
@@todd1hd 😆😆😆
@michaelallen8356
@michaelallen8356 2 жыл бұрын
Yep on the Beaverhead, but my guide in 2019 tied the weights on a separate line above the double nymphs. It’s basically chuck and duck, it catches fish but I lost feeling in my fingers after a full day of this. Had I known what we were in for I would’ve asked we stick to throwing hoppers on the Madison like we did the day before.
@dougosbo5396
@dougosbo5396 2 жыл бұрын
Love how you use humor tell folks to bugger off. Well done.
@garyslade6509
@garyslade6509 2 жыл бұрын
As an FYI, here in California the drop shot rig is illegal on moving water.
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, guess there are alternatives to lead shot.
@toddnelson1494
@toddnelson1494 2 жыл бұрын
Ben! Your wrong about everything, but we all love you anyway! Stay Huge!
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 2 жыл бұрын
....and the Best Comment award goes to:.................... Todd!!
@elijahf111
@elijahf111 2 жыл бұрын
I use this rig almost exclusively, but im using it for Halibut from shore in central California. 20lb fluro, 3/0--4/0 EWG Superline (reinforced) hook and a white zoom super fluke, add a little ProCure anchovy scent and a 1oz torpedo sinker. I dont have any of these problems, but I guess my use case Is quite different lol.
@zakb.9269
@zakb.9269 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with this one. Terrible to cast and a lack of sensitivity/connection with your flies.
@clayfullmer
@clayfullmer 2 жыл бұрын
The Bounce Rig was invented on the Provo River. I live in Provo and met the guy’s son who invented it. I took a fly fishing class at BYU, the local university, and met Dr. Ramon Zabriskie. He is older and his dad was the first pro bass fisherman of Utah. Dr. Z’s dad created the rig in the 60s or 70s. The original rig used a fly rod with a spinning reel. Weight was on the bottom and some longer droppers were attached like you showed. They would fish it just like euro nymphing and Dr. Z said his dad’s method gave birth to euro nymphing. Dr Z. and his dad got made fun of and people would say they weren’t really fishing. The problem was they caught so many fish people copied it. The Zabriskie bounce rig became the Provo bounce rig and now people call it just the bounce rig. Dr. Z wouldn’t teach it in class because he said it was too effective and took the fun out of fishing. I asked him to show me how to fish it with my floating line the last day of class, and boy did I catch fish. All ways of fishing are valid, but you’ll catch more fish if you learn that method. Intermediate sinking lines work best with 10” droppers. It puts the food right in their face. Use more leads than you think you should. I asked Dr. Z about fly fish food’s rig, they’re local. He said it’s a little much. The bounce rig is not complicated.
@clarkman23
@clarkman23 2 жыл бұрын
no one actually cares...but, do you have an autographed hat? That would be super cool.
@clayfullmer
@clayfullmer 2 жыл бұрын
@@clarkman23 if nobody cares about origins then yeah. It’s just another excellent way to catch fish, but gill nets are excellent too. I’ll get u an autograph when I take his advanced ff class.
@clarkman23
@clarkman23 2 жыл бұрын
@@clayfullmer soooo, you have an autographed hat? cool bro'...lol..."I took a fly fishing class...." hahaha! this is absolutely classic! Clearly you're in the group of "take themselves a little too seriously" keep at it there bud, you'll "get it" eventually...
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 2 жыл бұрын
@@clarkman23 I think he is brilliantly putting everyone one with his "masters thesis" on this subject!! Or I could be wrong, and he's SIRIUS, like "out there"! LOL ;D
@ronuhlenhopp5819
@ronuhlenhopp5819 Жыл бұрын
For me, it is very important to be using a fly rod with a slower action so the casting motion takes an oval path where the weight is constantly under tension until release. Also sometimes it is better to use a spinning rod to fish the depths.
@thereallevel27
@thereallevel27 2 жыл бұрын
I usually texas rig a 4 inch split tail fluke on my dripshot rig. The standard dropshot hooks snag everything
@wadeknupp5808
@wadeknupp5808 2 жыл бұрын
The vast majority of what you are saying is spot on. However, there is a place for this rig and using properly spaced droppers can eliminate most tangles with it. I still prefer nymphing in other ways most of the time. Basically I am saying don't throw away the tools just because you don't use them very often.
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 2 жыл бұрын
As a Utah local who’s primary fishery is THE PROVO river, this is hilarious!
@donotrobme9295
@donotrobme9295 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to hear. Please stay in your waters as all your buddies come to our state’s waters. None of us go to the Provo so none of us are trading u Ha ha
@isaacboettcher3489
@isaacboettcher3489 2 жыл бұрын
@@donotrobme9295 can confirm. Idaho is full enough as is
@cjamesmckay
@cjamesmckay 2 жыл бұрын
@@donotrobme9295 Well I sure as shit see y’all at the green so I think I’ll come and go as I please
@donotrobme9295
@donotrobme9295 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjamesmckay never been. I’m sure u r right and u obviously can come, it’s legal. But I’ve never been to the green, although I hear of lots of people talking about the part in wyo. keep fishing all u want. If I was in Utah at the green I’d rush too, just never been.
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjamesmckay Just what in the GD hell you think you are? An American? Still free, for a while longer, eh? :D
@TJRainbowWarrior
@TJRainbowWarrior 2 жыл бұрын
Waded the Beaverhead last week and fished said drop shot rig with a guide. Waterload and chuck, waterload and chuck…all day. I don’t think my shoulder will ever be the same, but it catches fish.
@aubreychesnutt7090
@aubreychesnutt7090 2 жыл бұрын
Love the huge fly fisherman videos, keep em coming!
@calamityjane7699
@calamityjane7699 11 ай бұрын
I like dropshots and bobbers. Untangling lines is what I do best, especially in the dead nuts of winter.
@JP-dz7zu
@JP-dz7zu 2 жыл бұрын
I neither laughed nor learned. That makes this your best video yet.
@johnperrigot7532
@johnperrigot7532 2 жыл бұрын
Very true for the Beaverhead river comment.
@smattext
@smattext 2 жыл бұрын
so what do you use? in one of your videos you mentioned the hi lo rig which is pretty much the same as the drop shot i tangled almost every cast wont use that rig again! or do you put the weight above the hi lo rig?
@austinelliott2798
@austinelliott2798 2 жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan tying on a single nymph, weighting it properly and throwing it in the water. I hate split shot, but I use it when necessary to get the fly down. I find all these complicated nymph rigs to be annoying, but that's just me. If you like them, I say knock yourself out.
@sparkyofsocal
@sparkyofsocal 2 жыл бұрын
The most important thing I got out today’s video is the importance of beer time.
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 2 жыл бұрын
You are not wrong about everything! That said, sometimes you need the tech stuff to help out, especially if you suck at fly fishing. Time is limited, on this big rock, and it's good to spend time fishing and not fly casting, which can be done back on your big green lawn. But it also sucks to keep loading up your fave creek with lead shot, eh? ;D
@daver1959
@daver1959 2 жыл бұрын
I just fish water where I don’t need to use split shot - my weighted nymphs work just fine getting down to the bottom. Seems to be working well for me.
@russelrogers2540
@russelrogers2540 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I didn't have a mouth full of coffee when you showed the picture of "weight at the bottom". I would have sprayed the laptop and made a mess.
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 2 жыл бұрын
right, or drinking a coke, that would have come out of my nostrils!! :D
@mattgeffery8577
@mattgeffery8577 2 жыл бұрын
I used to euro nymph and have eventually ended up as a dropshot fisherman. Really isnt worth it unless you are using a euro setup rod/reel/line because it is not castable. great for pockets in fast current though
@tracyb1577
@tracyb1577 2 жыл бұрын
Happy huge day everyone!
@jameshanson8774
@jameshanson8774 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect, I'm going fishing Thursday and I've looking for a new nymph rig system!
@Hrogthar
@Hrogthar 2 жыл бұрын
Always love a good roast from the Huge Fly Fisherman. Another classic.
@clarkman23
@clarkman23 2 жыл бұрын
yep, totally agree! between that and the comments from all of the "super serious" fly fisher folk....it's just classic.
@aw00gaaw00ga1
@aw00gaaw00ga1 2 жыл бұрын
I can hear the screeches echoing across the Lower Provo all the way from Maryland. Also, lol @ the dudes writing essays in the comments.
@tl56kmair
@tl56kmair Жыл бұрын
Being someone from Utah who lives literally 2 minutes from the Provo River I must say I was surprised to hear the rig from hell referred to as "the Provo bounce rig".
@jeffmusselman9598
@jeffmusselman9598 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmmm...... me thinks you gave up on this type of nymphing too early. I fish it with flies attached to the tippit via tags, as apposed to inline, and can honestly say I have never lost a fish (as far as I know) from the weight of the split shot pulling the fly out of the fish's mouth. Either way, all that matters is that you're fishing. How you catch fish is just an interesting afterthought.
@Naught_So_Fly
@Naught_So_Fly Жыл бұрын
You had me at “more beer drinking time.”😊
@kyleziegler2288
@kyleziegler2288 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on. Everything you said here is true. Been there, done that, and it sucks.
@joshtheplow
@joshtheplow 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to laugh but now I’m crying missing my days dredging the Provo with turds and worms 😭 I always figured it was called the Provo bounce rig because on any given week there’s a couple hundred guides dredging with bounce rigs.. The Provo like many swift rivers can be tough to effectively get your flys deep enough.. my clients were usually too green for bounce rigs tho, it would be an absolute birds nest of broken dreams in 10-15 casts 😂
@lukebonagurio4503
@lukebonagurio4503 2 жыл бұрын
Cought my first fish on a dry droppers the other day felt huge!
@clarkman23
@clarkman23 2 жыл бұрын
great stuff as usual! I see that many here need to try to find a sense of humor....lol (or maybe they take themselves a little too seriously). Keep up the good work!
@bssaassin1900
@bssaassin1900 2 жыл бұрын
I never even heard of dropshot rigs for fly fishing only spinner and bait casters. I hate putting on spit shot I try to just use weighted nymphs and if I do need it I use the smallest ones I can get away with
@cjamesmckay
@cjamesmckay 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things to do is take my Provo bounce rig to neighboring states. Everyone is so friendly.
@johnyorchak5162
@johnyorchak5162 2 жыл бұрын
Can I fish this rig with my tenkara rod? (I'm missing your tenkara insults so here's a softball for you.).
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 2 жыл бұрын
the "tenkara rod fly" no longer works; he's seen it a lot. Cast something having to do with beer or chicken to get a rise out of Ben!!
@theoutdoordad7395
@theoutdoordad7395 2 жыл бұрын
Casting split shot sucks. Great set up for spinning gear though.
@greghoffman3146
@greghoffman3146 2 жыл бұрын
Provo is my home water and I almost exclusively swing soft hackles, sometimes streamer fish. Dries when I'm lucky. I know nymphing is more effective but it's boring. Best fisherman on the water uses black rubber worms on spin gear. Deadly
@jimholland1592
@jimholland1592 2 жыл бұрын
I love it thanks, I use a tippet ring 🤣🤣🤣 But I get it, I enjoy your style. It does not matter what I do I get tangled up all the time. Well a lot of the time. I enjoy laughing at myself because I do a lot of what you talk about. But you have also help me in numerous way as well! Keep it up and stay huge👍
@jimholland1592
@jimholland1592 2 жыл бұрын
@@rizzoblam Hey Jon, I love the tippet ring used in the right way. I don’t take offense by what Ben says. I just laugh at myself. He really does not mean anything malicious. I really enjoy a lot of the stuff that he does. I have a fun time learning from him. I can’t wait till Monday’s at 7am. Stay safe and you never know we may meet up👍
@jimholland1592
@jimholland1592 2 жыл бұрын
@@rizzoblam 🤣🤣🤣🤓 Oh Jon, when I lose a fish and see a pigtail at the end of my tippet I just want to scream. But that doesn’t happen as much lately. He is very opinionated but I would rather have wounds from a friend than kisses from the enemy 🧐 I am 65 and man how I wish I knew what these young folks know when I was that age. In my early twenties I fished every day. Then in my thirty’s work got in my way. Now I am back at fishing almost every day again. I never did guided trips before but I have done two this year. And have at least two more planned. The South Holston and the Watauga Tail waters. I am kinda of a blue liner. But as the water heats up I will use my 9wt and target some Stripers. I live outside the Atlanta metro area. And fish North Ga. It’s just getting harder to get around and I know my time is getting limited. I enjoy a lot of these folks. Any way have a safe season and stay huge🤣🤣🤣👍
@wookieeshideout1216
@wookieeshideout1216 2 жыл бұрын
I hate this rig and it's the hardest setup to use, (for me) but it catches me a ton of fish. It takes a lot of practice to use to use this setup as well. Oh, and one wrong cast or a good gust of wind and you have your self a nice birds nest to untangle.
@Connor_Sigmund
@Connor_Sigmund 2 жыл бұрын
Can your next video be a Tenkara drop shot rig?
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 2 жыл бұрын
:D
@erikseymour6038
@erikseymour6038 2 жыл бұрын
Our Gear Restricted Rivers and Streams here in Michigan don't even allow this rig. Typically the "Gear Restricted" is Fly Only stretches of the river/stream. Unless I am Bass fishing with Spin Gear, the Drop Shot Rig looks allot like what a snagging set up looks like, in my opinion.
@sorencowger4593
@sorencowger4593 2 жыл бұрын
Did I hear you say “fishing pole”?
@willsullivan9471
@willsullivan9471 2 жыл бұрын
To be completely honest i thought this was just a bass rig.
@Jessehermansonphotography
@Jessehermansonphotography 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I had no idea people used this as a fly rigs.
@cartajulian1
@cartajulian1 2 жыл бұрын
Keeping the tippet ring hate up. Great work!
@cartajulian1
@cartajulian1 2 жыл бұрын
@@rizzoblam dude, this is a joke. It's fly fishing it doesn't matter (at all) how you do it. I use them and think this is a hilarious position to take
@tiffanylondon463
@tiffanylondon463 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Keep keeping it reel👍
@perposterous1
@perposterous1 2 жыл бұрын
What's a Huck and Chuck Rig then??
@SufferingOutdoors
@SufferingOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
I will say the drop shot rig should only be used by those fly fishers who have achieved a higher spiritual level of fly fishing. Probably level 7 out of 10. You are probably a level 6. Once you achieve a level 7 you will see the value in it. Until then, dry fly fishing only for you my friend.
@timj3199
@timj3199 2 жыл бұрын
Mmm, sounds like just one step away from attaching a rubber worm to the end of your fly line
@steelhead6368
@steelhead6368 2 жыл бұрын
No rules in fly fishing just boosted my confidence 100%. I just try to follow the fishing etiquettes (stay away from everyone).
@Waty8413
@Waty8413 2 жыл бұрын
A drop shot style of rigging does not make a bounce rig in and of itself. I've actually fished the true "bounce" rig on the actual freaking Beaverhead and YES, that whole deal sucks for all the reasons mentioned in the video. But those short comings do not carry over when you dial back the weight and use a smaller indicator and treat it as just another indi rig.
@CONEHEADDK
@CONEHEADDK 2 жыл бұрын
I just tie a knot on the bottom section, so it will loose 25-75% strength, if the weight is caught up. That way I don't need more than one kind of line.
@Grimey_Fishing
@Grimey_Fishing 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely laughing *with* you, Ben.
@mikekuczynski1552
@mikekuczynski1552 2 жыл бұрын
It is a pain in the ass to cast , but I have used it in very specific applications like getting to the bottom of deep runs quick . Other then that no . Thanks for the video
@rossthompson2471
@rossthompson2471 2 жыл бұрын
Kelly Gallup sure likes the drop shot rig. I've never used it but I'm getting ready to try it. It makes sense in theory. I get tangled any time I use a 2 fly set up and a split shot any way, so I'm gonna give it a whirl. I can see where the split shot at the end could cause you to lose a fish. I don't know why but seems like when I'm numphing, the fish hardly ever get airborne, which is when I'd expect to see that happen. Anyways, another good video!
@vance2074
@vance2074 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual,
@ZGADOW
@ZGADOW 2 жыл бұрын
I love a bounce rig
@scottybeck100
@scottybeck100 4 ай бұрын
Used to be called the Teton rig in the '90's
@endofdaysbroadcast8486
@endofdaysbroadcast8486 5 ай бұрын
You're right about everything.
@champtree
@champtree 2 жыл бұрын
No swipe at tenkara? Damn!
@charlieboutin3341
@charlieboutin3341 2 жыл бұрын
You’re wrong about everything! Except a few things, but then you’re right about everything else. That double chair picture is hilarious!😂 I’ll Never use this rig, I mostly fish for Largemouth and your Slider and Dedeauxs poppers and snakes are the top of my list, because they catch Huge trophy bass. Thank you Ben, really appreciate your great content and hard work! 👍👍🎣
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that 2 chairs thing reminds me of a totally non-PC routine, back in the day, a stand-up comic guy did about "Big Butted Women"! One line was: "Her butt was so big, that when she hauled ass, she had to make two trips"!! And it "devolved" from there! :D LOL
@holden327
@holden327 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree with you on the toilet bowl!😂😂😂
@halfasshuntingclub5330
@halfasshuntingclub5330 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE NYMPHING! But I will never use that rig…ever.
@markshaheen2413
@markshaheen2413 3 ай бұрын
You are right
@christopherpittman2881
@christopherpittman2881 2 жыл бұрын
Finally - someone on KZbin that doesn’t recommend the drop shot rig. Yes, I’m a loser and I’ve used that rig multiple times in the toilet bowl. And damn - the tangles were horrible but you’re guaranteed 20+ fish using in for a few hours at the toilet bowl with a triple mysis rig. I wonder what the Jesus of fly fishing thinks of it?
@ledpaul713
@ledpaul713 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck-N-Duck rig, almost as bad as euro nymphing...
@mayorofbasedville7680
@mayorofbasedville7680 Жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: euro nymphing is a fad that will dramatically decrease in popularity over the next few years. All these young guys that are into it right now because it’s trendy and fashionable will soon realize how silly it is to place artificial constraints on yourself in order to be in compliance with European competition nymphing regulations. Most of them will end up using some kind of moderately thick mono rig or just go back to using traditional fly lines and leaders.
@willyboyw.5771
@willyboyw.5771 2 жыл бұрын
I lose a lot more shot than flies on the drop shot rig. You do lose a few fish-- especially with barbless hooks.
@ellisryan1860
@ellisryan1860 2 жыл бұрын
I love the toilet bowl. Where else can you see a billionaire get pissed because you're better at something than them?
@446flytying3
@446flytying3 2 жыл бұрын
I've fished this rig a few times, but after watching this video NEVER AGAIN! 👍😄
@kpmurphy2738
@kpmurphy2738 2 ай бұрын
This guy is funny.
@Juhmeri
@Juhmeri 4 ай бұрын
100% agree with Hugie
@fishhandsfranky
@fishhandsfranky 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention this is the top rig for dudes ripping trout off of redds.
@TStomachPain
@TStomachPain 2 жыл бұрын
Pure gold
@andywiggens1069
@andywiggens1069 Жыл бұрын
Just saying you like inline rigs says it all about your fishing
@treceur6195
@treceur6195 2 жыл бұрын
Provo fisherman getting all hurt haha
@brianjordan8990
@brianjordan8990 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more.
@coreytohme9861
@coreytohme9861 2 жыл бұрын
Ron Ratliff says you're wrong.
@HugeFlyFisherman
@HugeFlyFisherman 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, who?
@coreytohme9861
@coreytohme9861 2 жыл бұрын
@@HugeFlyFisherman Nobody
@coreytohme9861
@coreytohme9861 2 жыл бұрын
@@rizzoblam I think some of the tongue in cheek jokes and references have gone over your head. But that's ok. I suck at fly fishing too.
@coreytohme9861
@coreytohme9861 2 жыл бұрын
@@rizzoblam Tell me you're a tenkara fisherman without telling me you're a tenkara fisherman.
@coreytohme9861
@coreytohme9861 2 жыл бұрын
@@rizzoblam So how does Tenkara fishing differ from Western fly fishing other than the reel? People make things out to be more than they actually are. Tenkara is one of those things. Naturally, it's not a blanket statement and does not cover every Tenkara fisherman, but the most vocal ones that blather on and on about it have left the guys with the reels wondering what's the big deal, my rod does that too? And by the way, I live to be the butt of the joke, so I do more about slighting myself than other people. I just found it ironic that you replied complaining to several comments on this video but you want to call Ben out for basically doing the same thing. I think you missed the part about the 4:00 mark where Ben (he's mentioned this several times in other videos as well) tells everyone to do whatever, it doesn't really matter. I suggest you "do it your way" and not get overly butt hurt about it. If I've read you wrong, and what I said isn't true, then just disregard the comment or not it's your choice and we can go back and forth ad nauseum. Love ya, Corey
@conorbyorth2981
@conorbyorth2981 2 жыл бұрын
They do it on the beaverhead cause there is no fish, not worth the drive into the most dry place in North America.
@komando8365
@komando8365 Жыл бұрын
I never got guys who run this rig all the time. I’ve seen people fish these rigs directly upstream… while wading. I don’t get it.
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