This Shouldn't Be A Harley!

This Bike Shouldn't Be A Harley Its too good, too different. I really love this bike and honestly it changed my mind on what Harley can do when they just create and done try to appeal to a dyeing customer base.
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[@Warthog71]

I have a ‘23 and it never fails to bring a smile to my face when riding. You cannot compare it to the Pan Am. The engines are built differently and have diff powerbands for their respective purposes. Plus you can always tune the Sportster S and unlock its full potential. Its straight up savage when needed. Good review!

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Thank you very much man. I love this thing It really does put a smile on my face. Even just sitting around. I ride sport bikes fairly regularly 1000, 600, and I think the power is enough a tune and exhaust for unlocking it but I wouldn't really do performance mods even if they are available.

[@yayagazab4449]

Harley shoulda kept the Sportster line as is and should have put that revolution motor on their Bronx model instead.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Don’t you think it’s enough ? You can get over 30 years of the same Sporster. If you really want one you can find one. New, old, high miles, low miles. There are millions out there. 2x4 sticks of wood arnt even 2” by 4” anymore lol. Shit changes. Are you planning on buying a new version of the same bike every single year ? Kawasaki even changed the KLR650 like it’s time bro lol.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Haha I won’t shy away from a new bike because it’s new. I also won’t miss out on a great bike because it’s old. Form your own opinion I would encourage you not to knock a thing until you try it.

[@breedlofam]

@@USNVA-yn6cp problem is, they can't continue making the old Sportster. EPA regulations screwed that up for them. Under a certain displacement, stricter emission requirements are coming real soon so HD had to move over to the Revmax. It sucks, but they had to do it.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

“Had to”. They didn’t have to make the rev max. They could have done what is happening with the M8. Redesign of certain things and kept it overall the same. They wanted to make something very different.

[@breedlofam]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles no, they literally had to. It would have been impossible to make a traditional air cooled twin that ran under the emissions requirements and was under 1200cc displacement. The emission requirements are much higher than the 1750-1860cc M8's

[@johntaylor1341]

You are on point with this video. I have ridden many motorcycles over the years from cruisers, dirt bikes and many sport bikes and currently own a 2021 Kawasaki ZX10R and a 2020 Yamaha Bolt plus we have another zx10r and 2021 Indian Scout in the Garage. I love speed but love torque more. As I was getting a bit older I wanted a more comfortable cruiser style bike. Sadly I was disappointed in all of the normal cruisers that were heavy and lower powered and well slow unless I paid over 20k. To get to the point this power to weight ratio on this new Sportster S against many other smaller cruisers in similar category and price (I did over 20) is pretty awesome plus under 20k and can get a used one for under 15k. Plus includes keyless remote start (FOB in the pocket), Color TFT display with lots of extra information, navigation on screen, cruise control, optional heated grips, and many other features I am not going to list. I have read many great reviews and read many bad comments but you have to take the good and the bad. To all people, there is NO perfect motorcycle as I have owned and tried to find that perfect mix. heck have 4 in my garage we play with daily, lol. Now many do not realize this is NOT your older ugly boring Sportster (i called them baby Harleys), that many relate to, as this is the newest designed 2021+ Sportster S with all new design, engine, tech and much more. Honestly I think they should have called this something different like the Dragon or beast or something cooler. I finally decided to test ride one yesterday I was skeptical as I have never been a fan of Harley, but said what the heck let's try it out. So the Dealer handed me a 2023 Sportster S and went over some controls and modes (as there are 5), and then I went riding. Put it in Sport mode, duh. Well right off the get go, I noticed I have to be a bit easy on that throttle as it for sure has more torque then our Kawasaki ZX10R, Yamaha bolt and Indian Scout Bobber. Anyway, while on the highway I was cruising at 70mph and noticed no suspension issues on bumps as others would say. I actually liked the cushy feel of the front tire. So I was thinking well lets do this "Dropped 2 gears and disappear" and of course the infamous "Pin it to win it!" and HOLY HELL, I was about pulled off the seat, lmao. I was grinning ear to ear and laughed thinking 'Harley made this' and well I was sold on it. I heard it can do around 150mph, which is a bit fast for a cruiser but if you need it, then it is there. BTW, it will get you to 100mph super fast. Remember torque is what gets you there (low rpm) and HP (high RPM) is more for top speed. Of course it has front BREMBO brakes and the motorcycle will stop good, as we are not doing a front stunt stoppie, smh. Yes, the stock exhaust sounds like crud, but I prefer power over sound and with an aftermarket exhaust it will sound better. Tip, for sure get an aftermarket front fairing or windscreen as at over 70mph that wind sucks. Totally agree this is NOT your typical Harley.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Haha dam that’s a lot but I get it. This bike is not made for evo sporty, dyna, or so frail ridders. It shows. I think this bike can take sport bike riders as yourself and I and humble you to the possibility a cruiser can be fast. Not top end your not going to do 190+ but from 30-40 to (speed limited) 136 it’s a bat out of hell. Solo rides and small rips where you get the zoomies my god does it pull hard. It’s not a go fast highway bike but I cruise on this bike 100ish on the highway fairly regularly and besides the wind (which sucks) it handles it well. It’s a powerhouse and true muscle cruiser. Glad you got to enjoy one and had the openness to give it a try. Now go to your local Indian dealer and ride the new 2025 scout lineup and see what you think lol. Less mid range punch but more carry towards the top end than the SS with slightly more comfort cruiser ergos the new speed plus is also a beast. And I own the Sportster S. The sportster is more brace yourself fast but they should be equal in speed (I’ve ridden both)

[@thepassionofthegoose5472]

Fantastic looking bike. Color combo is spot-on. I'm on a black/black MT-10 and the bronze accents are something I'm now considering. Cheers.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Yes it’s an awesome color combo. This bronze Harley used is hard to find and replicate.

[@juanchoelcodloco8515]

Awesome job on this video. Kudos.... You hit many same sentiments about this bike that i have when i first bought mine. 2023 Sportster S. I had an R6 and and then an R1 about 15 years ago, and this HD looked just right for me. I do believe HD did design this new Sportster S to attract a new generation. It has the best of both worlds, my opinion of course! im loving it!

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

It’s an awesome bike. Thank you for the feedback!

[@uttamgala7186]

They built this to appeal to non Harley riders

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

I would say it worked lol.

[@breedlofam]

Not really. According to the last owners report, the vast majority sold are to Harley owners. My dad is a Harley guy (Triumph as well) and bought the PA to do off the highway Iron Butt rides.

[@uttamgala7186]

@@breedlofam PA I believe. Sportster S - not so much.

[@breedlofam]

@@uttamgala7186 oh yeah, the S was looking for non HD riders definitely

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

What Harley did/does he have before the PA?

[@johnnyblankenship2990]

You did everything right on this video awesome job.👍

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Thank you ! I appreciate the feedback hope all is well on your end !

[@paddleboatman3767]

I bought a sportster s. Put mid controls on it and if Harley where serious they would sell them new with this option. Definitely not like my other Harley's but one has a sidecar so no surprise there. Love this bike. My only negative is the price drop 11% as was trading for a road king. Just like trying different things every couple of years. I highly recommend this bike as well.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

That’s awesome glad to hear you have it a shot and enjoyed it ! I think the kids are awesome but if does take away a few inches if your in the taller side.

[@drakecadwalladerr9121]

Been looking at these for a while and just realized that the left side looks like junk. Why couldn't they pretty it up too

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

It doesn’t pop as much that’s for sure but it’s more lack of the bronze accents than it looking bad. Just seems more bland

[@CLFmoto87]

Best video review for this bike I’ve seen.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

😂😂🙇🏽 thank you !! It’s a really fun bike !

[@Gwosts]

Awesome video bro there is a shortage of Sportster S content online. We need more like this!

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Thank you very much. I’ll keep it coming. I thought it was short lived as well. And it’s a dam good bike.

[@zackaryschrimsher7319]

It’s because most people trade out of them relatively quickly witch is ironically the same way it happens for me

[@Gwosts]

@@zackaryschrimsher7319 I don't understand why. I have a Sportster 1200 Evo and I've put about 45k miles and don't have a reason to trade

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Ya I will tell you I don’t think this is a Harley people bike for sure. It’s for a new crowd.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Very different bike. Traditional Harley riders use those as small whip around bikes to not take the big one. But this is very different feel.

[@gray_wolverine63]

I feel like you. I have always owned sports bikes. I never thought I would buy a Harley that was until I saw the 2023 Harley Sportster-S I am very happy I did.🇺🇸👍🏼

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Thats awesome man glad to hear it! I think they did a great job. Its different new no one can dispute that its not "modern".

[@gray_wolverine63]

@NostalgicMotorcycles I did have them put mid controllers. That is how this bike should have come, and it's way better in handling it. I would suggest you get it too because you will feel the difference. The only thing so far I have done is adding the wild ones collection for the bike, looks awesome, and gives it a real classy look. That is how I look at it and everyone who has seen my Harley Davidson Sportster-S love how it looks. Stay safe, brother. 🇺🇸👍🏼

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

I agree. I think it’s fast enough to need mids. Holding on is a fun when you can’t use your legs !

[@artvertex4152]

I just purchased a Nightster after the price decrease. For the first time in a decade I actually think Harley make a better bike than Honda. What a sweet machine. The perferct power cruiser in my mind right now would be a Nightster with 1250 engine and a dual front disc. That would be awesome.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

I fully agree. That would be a bad ass machine. Especially if the aftermarket gets hold of it. Unreasonably fast. It’s glorious

[@henrytischbein155]

I think with a few mods this will be a beast on the drag strip

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Dude it might already be. There still are not many aftermarket internal engine components for this thing. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️. I want to find a way to get Pan America power on this thing!

[@henrytischbein155]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles even simpler than that prob just an extended swing arm and a set of drag slicks

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

@@henrytischbein155this thing won’t lift as it is. It’s pretty long and front heavy

[@TheFirstCause]

Hoping to get one of these in the spring. The Fat Bob 114 was the first Harley that caught my attention. They always looked like they were designed in the 1950s and never evolved. But the blacked out looks, NO CHROME, and the cool new headlights just worked for me. And now the Sportster S? It looks so modern and futuristic! Thanks for posting the review!

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Thank you man! It means a lot. This bike is different than other Harley’s for sure. But I think in all the right ways. At least for me. Coming from a Honda magna as my last cruiser it’s a nice transition.

[@TheFirstCause]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles Yeah I can imagine it is a nice upgrade from the magna! What you describe in the review is why I like this bike. It is often described as muscle cruiser and I like that a lot. I don't need the most insane track level performance, I want to drive generally legally, safely as possible, and just enjoy the open air cruise. But have some performance mixed in there for occasional fun on empty roads and overtaking as desired.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

This is exactly that ! It is a very fun bike ! I’m 5’10” my wife is 5’4” and we both ride it fine with no issues as far as comfort. I really do think it’s very close to the fastest bike Harley makes factory right now.

[@kelsonspalato4353]

I have one and its a dream bike!

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

For sure. My first set of mods will be getting it slightly more comfortable for longer trips. (Taller screen, exhaust and bars)

[@algee0218]

Best Harley video, hands down.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Thank you very much it means a lot !

[@glenvartha5253]

anyone giving anyone else shit about their choice in bikes has clearly only chosen theirs to impress people. Ego is a terrible thing and the saddest thing is they'll never admit it to themselves. "get a real XXX", or "That's not a real XXX" equates to "I chose mine to look cool for strangers"

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Lmfaooo have you read the comments. It’s loaded with this !!

[@spikebbc]

great video. Harley are trying to attract a new generation of riders. I think the new Sportster series is perfect. I bought the Nightster S, having said in the past that I would never own a Harley!

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Same here bro. How do you like it? I honestly think I would prefer the nightster ergonomics with the 1250 engine. !

[@spikebbc]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles I love it! Much different feel to the Japanese bikes I was looking at.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Yes it’s a lot closer to the traditional Harley

[@jhonnydumeny9816]

This bike looks amazing! I have a 22 Pan America Special

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Man I want to ride one. I’m not an adv type rider but I want to try it. I’ve heard too many good reviews.

[@jhonnydumeny9816]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles It doesn’t ride like an adventure bike. More like a tall naked bike.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Ya that’s why I’d be interested in riding one !

[@rbatman9704]

I just want the 150hp version. Rest I like.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

If it was an option I would have got it as well. It would be crazy 100% faster than a 600 all around ! I don’t think the chassis would handle the speed.

[@ronaldthomas9396]

What windshield is this?

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

The Harley one not sure the name.

[@davidbranch1077]

Not mention, because of the wide front tire...you won't have worry about the DEATH WOBBLE, that you get on the performance bikes with slimmer tires. 😂😂😂💙👍💯

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

The tire width should affect that to my knowledge. I could be wrong though I have been before. the bigtire doesnt get pulled around the grooves in the road though. thats for sure.

[@davidbranch1077]

@@NostalgicMotorcyclesLiked 💙👍💯

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Thank you David I appreciate that for sure !

[@rottweilerfun9520]

The bike is really good looking , except for the pipes. Put them down lower and put one on each side of the bike and I'd like it a lot better. I like the performance , especially the torque.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Haha they look better aftermarket. You can look up sportster with pan America header( runs below the footrest). It leaves the space where the exhaust is open ( I think that open space looks worse than the exhaust). I will say there isn’t room to run the dual exhaust under and over to the other side. Bike runs strong. And torque is real nice it makes the power seam easy. I love it.

[@derekv275]

Its the look of the exhaust.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

What about it? Good or bad. Asking because I’ve seen both lol

[@derekv275]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles Not a fan of how high the exhaust is.

[@derekv275]

But it's kinda right in the middle of cruiser and sport so I can see where they were trying to go

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Ya I wouldn’t call it sport really lol. It’s cruiser for sure. Only thing sport about it is the power numbers lol

[@TimothyT230]

And it sends a shockwave through your spine, 9.5 on the Richter scale if you ride over a pencil with its 2 inch rear suspension travel. Had one, sold it with 600 miles

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

I set it to a softer setting and don’t have much issues. I know there are people out there with a lot more sensitive backs than I have. It’s not a bagger that’s for sure. Sundowner seat helps a lot !

[@TimothyT230]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles Suppose it also depends on the riders weight. I am 220lbs, 6ft4...probably wasn't the bike for me. I did buy it on a 'whim' without a test ride. Expensive lesson learned. It's an attractive bike and it is quite quick but the sportbike in your video isn't a 1000cc 😝 Still it does perform quite nicely

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

@@TimothyT230 I mean ya you really can just be too big for a bike bro lol. Dont get on a shadow or grom lol. And as far as the 1000 of course its not going to keep up with it. This bike would fall apart if it went that fast lmao. It might literally take off into space.

[@TimothyT230]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles It’s a quick bike, I am just giving you grief. It was a fun 600 miles. I know I surprised at least one guy 😂

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

@@TimothyT230 HAHA thats gotta be a funny story. I know people dont expect it to be "fast"

[@projectbalrog2140]

any idea what the sport bike was you clapped.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Yes. That’s a clip from a video releasing this Sunday at 11:30 est. 2012 ZX6R.

[@firestarter8202]

Yeah, this new Nightster looks better than the Honda Rebel 1100 but not nearly as good as any Indian Scout. I don’t see the Nightster as a cruiser, but more of a naked bike. The new Nightster is more on par with the Indian FTR.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

That’s an interesting take. I agree it looks better than the rebel. I would say the scout is more competition for soft tails to be honest. I wouldn’t bother comparing it to a sportster. Which the nightster would be a new take on the old design not sure how it would be anything close to a naked (sportish bike without the fairings). Ftr for sure. The nightster I don’t see that being anything close to a naked.

[@firestarter8202]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles Thanks for the opinion. When it comes to the water-cooling engines to appease the European markets (and create a lot more horsepower per cubic inch) the Scouts have that down pretty darn well while managing to keep the engines and overall style so traditionally excellent! As a cruiser fan, the new Harley S just doesn’t look comfy. It looks sporty, and after all it is derived from a SPORTster.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

@@firestarter8202 Ya I Agree with you it is more sport and less comfort on the sporster S (not the same for nightster). But oddly enough I would just say I know how it looks. Dont knock it out as not comfortable until you try it. IF you just don't like the looks or what the bike is, I get it and I know not everyone will like it. However, its not a bad seating position shocks could be a little bit softer but this bike is leaning towards the sport and not comfort so its suspension matches the function. If you want the softest ride possible none of these bikes are what you're looking for.

[@firestarter8202]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles as you might’ve guessed, I own a scout rogue. The rogue is the first one that came with the syndicate seat, which is far better than any of the other scout seats. Between the syndicate seat and the mini-apes, the scout rogue is ultra-comfortable, especially with forward controls! I checked out the NighterSter and found it as uncomfortable as a regular scout bobber. Been riding a while, but got to say the last sportster I bought new was a 79 XLS, lol! I could only guess that the nighters shocks are better than my rogue. THOSE are terrible and I’ll be replacing those before summer.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

@@firestarter8202 To be honest at this point I dont expect companies to release a bike that doesnt need Something. Harley OEM seats suck to make that extra cash on the back end for the seat they should've put on it originally. Same with suspension on the lower priced models. Sportster and your bike aren't the only ones. Kind of just have to plan to make minor personal adjustments to get it just right for you.

[@speedyrik]

i have the '22 Nightster with 975 revolution motor. What Harley should've done was put that 1250 on the Nightster. But as the Sportster S. It's not attractive and its far away from the traditional Harley Sportsters resembles. Anyhow, nice vide.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

To be honest with you. A 1250 nightster would be my personal preference as well. But I prefer the 1250 engine (what ever bike it’s in) over the 975. That drove it for me. This is still an amazing bike I meant every word I said.

[@artvertex4152]

Yeah. A Nightster with 1250 engine and a dual front disc would be a perfect bike !

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

I’d trade it hahaha

[@emmour9288]

Cute bike... Im only getting in to Motorbikes because i think they are full of swag!! However i am looking at numbers... Somebody please tell me (Unbiased) their opinion.. The indian sport chief would leave this bike in the video in a cloud of dust? It has 162nm of torque... And it has 2 disc brakes up front (Brembo)

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

It weighs almost 200 lbs more (185lbs) it needs it. I don’t have an unbiased “opinion”. I haven’t ridden an Indian sport chief so I can’t say it’s faster. I would think it’s slower 185lbs on a bike makes a very very significant difference.

[@emmour9288]

Definitely weight helps!! 83.91 kilograms!! Im from Australia ! Price also helps with the decision but then again you get what you pay for! I first discovered Indian motorcycles from that old Highlander series.. The bad guy of the episode rode one.. When the hero of the series went Investigating about the rider to the local bike shop. The owner answered oh Indian? Great bike fast as hell stopped making them in the 60's Whats this guy look like haha. Never have forgotten that! @@NostalgicMotorcycles

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

You getting into motorcycles may find that price and quality are somewhat related but as everything the law of diminishing returns is always true. My first bike was a 1995 Honda magma that I got for $1,200 usd and for the price it’s been the most fun balanced bike for miles I’ve owned. I have had more fun on “cheaper” bikes than some “expensive” bikes. Price and features are usually more inline. But always remember price and fun are not related when it comes to 2 wheels.

[@emmour9288]

Good to know, Thanx!@@NostalgicMotorcycles

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

@@emmour9288 Yes sir thank you for watching man I appreciate it !

[@airsoftkids2299]

Dude , well fuckin said

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Thank you. I appreciate that !

[@makingitlookeasy]

I love South Park

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

I know the episode !! It’s glorious !

[@s.a.l.te.p.c8187]

Soooop good

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Thank you ! It really is. I’ll be getting some jokes in it tomorrow 💪🏼💪🏼

[@TrustyZ900]

It may perform well. but it's still butt ugly. I'll keep my '23 LRS. Chicks dig it.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Haha that’s your opinion bro you’re more than entitled to it. I don’t get bikes to impress chicks I get bikes to enjoy myself lol.

[@TrustyZ900]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles I ride my LRS to impress myself. Have 6 bikes and if I want to get rowdy, I'll ride my R1M. Sportster S is still Butt F' in ugly. And chicks still dig my 131 LRS. They laugh at that cartoon looking so called HD.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

@@TrustyZ900 Glad you and your chickens love your bike my guy lol. I can appreciate a good low rider as well. My preference lies in the Last year Dyna Lowrider S personally.

[@TrustyZ900]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles I can see why you have a whopping 385 saps watching. Good luck chump.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Ouch. Going for the jugular. Hahaha not sure if this will help or make you feel any better about it, it would be one less but you watched it already hahahahaaa. Maybe a few of your chickens joined in to take a look too. They might be eye balling the Sporster like this 😍😍😍😍. Might have to sell your low rider if the chicks don’t like it anymore 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️.

[@nunya5864]

The light set up on the back is butt ugly and the bulbus exaust ugh thanks to the EPA.. believe it or not a sportster is not a beginners bike and is top heavy its a go to work type bike lol

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

The Light setup meets legal guidelines its not aesthetic its what legally needs to be there. They couldn't make it any easier to remove and replace its 2 bolts and a plug. Kind of the same with the exhaust. Thats really not anything any manufacturer can control and the best thing we can ask for is an easy work around which we got. Thats a win in the books for me. As far a sportster not being a beginner bike. For this one specifically Id agree. not any another. If you think a sportster is top heavy. I would encourage trying out different bikes and see how they compare to each other.

[@allforugod]

What if I told you the much better version was released years ago? It was called the Indian Scout Bobber.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

I need to find one to ride and do a review on would be my response ! They do have similar stats I know they are very close.

[@1941392]

Harley cut all ties to the past with this abomination. Harley is now adrift in uncharted waters. I’ve never seen one of these on the road. Hope Harley survives this screwup…. ‘But it’s got hand warmers!’ ….. I’m out

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Hahahaha this love it. People get so butt hurt over this thing. It’s a bike enjoy it or don’t.

[@fmpabxx7834]

I hate people who act like fans now when yall were the same people talking shit about harley your entire lives. You didnt wunna be down with Harley back then but now you do. Yall are posers. And people like you is why Harley will never go out of business. Harley will always remain #1. Because sooner or later,you alllll come around.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

I'm not sure I see the hate you're talking about. I did say I wasn't planning on buying one. I don't know how that can translate into hate. I can say if Harley starts to switch it up and make more bikes for more people they probably will get people to come around lol. Thats how it works you make something someone likes they will probably buy it. This bike happened to be it for me. That does not mean I cant appreciate the other bikes they have had in the past. I honestly would own a Road Glide. 2020 Sand Dune CVO Is the dream HD for me just out of my price range at the moment.

[@steveemm9245]

Not very appealing to me Harleys need to be Harleys

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

And what about this Harley Davidson designed, created and sold motorcycle makes it not a Harley ?

[@jamescampolo7824]

Nice informercial. lol

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Hahaha that’s funny !

[@seanlee2650]

You are right, that should not be a Harley and they are losing their base customers with their new made in China motorcycles.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Thats a common point of reference for a lot of people. I do have a question. How does Harley Making more bikes for more/different people affect the base customer? They did not replace the base product with this. This is an addition for new people with little to no effect on the tried-and-true customer base of Harley that will not outlive time. And China Bikes are sold to the China market. It's cheaper to make Chinese models in China. Than make in America and have to pay to ship and export yada yada. Those American made bikes would cost too much to sell in another country so them make them there to sell there. The bikes sold in America are made in America. The bikes sold in China are made in China. Is this something you are aware of?

[@seanlee2650]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles The China made bikes are sold outside of China as well, and this ROBS Americans of work. I know for certain the X350 is available in Australia, and probably every other country around the word. America can't afford to lose any more manufacturing positions, AMERICA 1ST.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Yes as you are correct as American bikes are sold in Canada and Mexico and South America. Chinese bikes are sold on the continent they exist as well lol. When you figure out how to change import taxes for other countries making it cheaper to build bikes here and send them over seas you let me know. Until then I can’t fault any company for playing the cards they are dealt to the best of their pockets ability lol. You can fight that battle with your own dollars.

[@seanlee2650]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles I can and will fight with my dollars, by not spending any more with Harley Davidson. I am not the only one. God bless.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

@@seanlee2650 Hey I respect that to the fullest. Why though? what made that decision? Did a new bike in the lineup cause that? did you have quality issues with your last purchase from them? Do you think the CEO is ugly? Why do you feel the way you do that's the only important part of telling someone your opinion. If you tell me why I can understand your (and many more as you said) point of view.

[@elithegreat6463]

Any Engine, transmission Electrical issues issues ?? I'm hoping they sorted out all the problems with the 2024 models ??, cause you can read all over youtube that there have been Gremlins with this Bike.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Batter drainage issue when I had it at first. There was a software update and since then nothing at all.

[@johnstocker6728]

It's not

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

How so? What is it ?

[@dizzyrick7653]

I gotta be honest, I cannot stand that exhaust. It looks awful.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

LMAO ya I get it. I think its better than those people who have a literal dummy pipe to make the back of the baggers look even. I think its even worse to leave the hole open lol. For me its better than that lol.

[@dizzyrick7653]

@NostalgicMotorcycles I get that, but they could have done something nicer looking than what they did lol

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

@@dizzyrick7653 See that's how you see it. Not everyone. There is a person out there that thinks this is best looking thing in the world. For you to like it someone else has to dislike it. So what you see is what you get. how you feel is how you feel. If you like the bike and the exhaust is the only thing holding you back you can get a pan America header and move the exhaust below your foot (mid controls are a must for this). But If you hae seen this bike with the exhaust remove you will realize that gap left by the exhaust relocation is worse. Alot worse. (MY opinion)

[@dizzyrick7653]

Oh, I'll bet. It probably looks ridiculous with an exhaust delete. It's all good, I'm not really a fan of the newer HD designs at all. Maybe I'm just getting old @@NostalgicMotorcycles

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

You know what man. I respect that 100%. You simply don’t like it. Most people can’t manage to do that. It has to be tear down or build up of something else. I seriously respect that. What are you into? Older Harley or something else ?

[@plap.]

Funny how Harley is starting to make their bikes into Buells. Thats what they are doing to get attention twenty years later. Getting rid of Buell was the worse mistake Harley has ever made. Lost all respect for them for doing it. Both. companies would be in a completely different place right now. They have terrible foresight and even worse hindsight. You know what other bike is available, that is also American. From a company with pride and not full of bad decisions and greed... INDIAN FTR --------------

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Honeslty would love to get my hands on some new brother. I own this one but I love them all. If it’s a good bike I don’t discriminate. But I will say that running by a board does take the fun and creativity out of it for sure.

[@plap.]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles Wasn't just the board of directors, the new CEOs first big decision was to axe Buell. He didn't agree with performance anything and nobody stopped him. They finally had people's attention then poof right back old games. Killed the V Rod around the same time too, just a killer bike but that has a Porsche engine that's not Harley enough either lets kill that too. I too love and know about all bikes but the situation they are in they did this to themselves. Then don't get me going on the Live Wire, electric HA HA, catering to a generation that wants everything kicks tires and buys nothing.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Haha ya that was on the cutting edge of car tech. Motorcycles are a very different story. Bike people dont care about the same thing the population at large does that’s for sure lol.

[@makingitlookeasy]

I'd rather walk.

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Dam bro. I’d pick a scooter over walking

[@insanedb]

exactly, that's not a Harley

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

It it is bro !!! They have it at the dealer and everything. That’s where you get the new ones !

[@insanedb]

@@NostalgicMotorcycles Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

No it does not. But change the word sticking and replace it with growing and now we have a different perspective.

[@artvertex4152]

That's a plus. 🤷‍♂

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

Evolution my friend welcome to todays problems lol

[@fishfingers1985]

So a 10 year old Diavel would smoke this thing, stop and handle better...... "" New age for Harley Davidson"

[@NostalgicMotorcycles]

I’m aware of the fact Ducati has to be the pinnacle of performance on all their bikes. I’m aware. I also mentioned the ego stroke thing lol. This one just isn’t for you bro.