Thanks so much for watching! I won't mention you attempting the Dedede chaingrab because it was probably cut for a reason. Looking forward to seeing more!
@feurolant5 ай бұрын
Amazing videos on your part, it's so refreshing and nice to have actual Brawl videos!
@Masaru_kun5 ай бұрын
Coney bashing you and your channel and then finding out you're a 3 year sub and in his chat, is the essence of Coney...
@illford4 ай бұрын
@@Masaru_kuntbf I think it'd obvious that coney is not actually bashing them
@noobtuber102 ай бұрын
Brawlsumsause
@eeveewithcoffee95542 ай бұрын
King Dedede on Mario and DK were my first thoughts when he talked about other bad matchups
@igloo23265 ай бұрын
Can't believe the best Tekken player of our time became a Smash streamer, ICANT
@Kazaam19965 ай бұрын
Lazy Mattman plays Smash now?
@frickroll5 ай бұрын
Hey that ain’t Dokibird
@tentalz15905 ай бұрын
Wdym, slime already played smash
@BudewFan_5 ай бұрын
Since when did FD signifier start streaming smash?
@Jelliott_ssb5 ай бұрын
Yeah, Brawlpr- wait…
@terrortaste63895 ай бұрын
>Opens with trying to prove the subject of the stream/vid wrong >Embarasses self trying to prove them wrong This is why I love Coney
@luigiboyinblu5 ай бұрын
>”I’m gonna factcheck this myself, like a true American! >Completely humiliates himself in front of MILLIONS by failing a made up tech he was told by someone else was the best with Sheik and took it at face value without questioning or trying it himself before stream. Coney is one of the streamers of all time.
@someonestolemytoast21395 ай бұрын
he was 110% joking and baiting to get people interested but yeah we love coney
@Xanek5 ай бұрын
What a thumbnail. Mr. "Knows all about brawl" Has trouble finding how moves work in training mode.
@toxic_shr00m5 ай бұрын
lmfao
@castform75 ай бұрын
9:24 The only 2008 game in which Kirby has a favorable matchup against Meta Knight is in Kirby Super Star Ultra.
@grunkleg.29345 ай бұрын
19:17 The best part of this sequence is that I think Shiek would've landed the Up Smash if not for Ganondorf bringing his legs in before D-Air
@ConnortheGonnor5 ай бұрын
Wario isn't fat, just full of lots of helium, he wanted to be the new puff.
@christiankoll15285 ай бұрын
I don't think helium is the source of the waft.. but it is definitely a gas
@lorenzomcbo72295 ай бұрын
"Not in my region, get f*cked pink fresh" killed me 😂. So ness was inmune to dedede
@reperfan44 ай бұрын
Kind of, actually. Not really "immune" but more like "heavily resistant." Dedede's big thing was his chain grabs but his chain grabs only worked on characters with certain properties. Some characters were too light or had too much gravity for it to work on (they'd splat on the ground rather than slide away thus preventing a regrab), and some characters had low enough friction they'd simply slide too far away. It all depended on the particular physics of the character being thrown. Some of those characters who slid too far away COULD be regrabbed, but Dedede would have to actually do a Dash Grab to catch them due to how far away they slid and this drastically cut down how many times Dedede could actually throw since now that they had to sprint forward between each grab they'd run out of stage after only a few grabs. So rather than an instant touch of death it was more like just a guaranteed 30%-40% and that was it. This was the category Ness and Lucas fell into, meaning they weren't as susceptible to Dedede's tricks. Mind it still wasn't great because them being dragged across the stage also meant that once the chain grab was over they were also guaranteed to be in an edgeguarding situation against a character pretty darn good at edgeguarding, but that's still better than it being a Touch of Death.
@Kaiser255 ай бұрын
Coney failing to demonstrate other matchups is hillarious lol.On another note, Brawlternative's contente is amazing
@toxic_shr00m5 ай бұрын
I knew it was only a matter of time for Coney to watch this channel
@simonbecker9795 ай бұрын
Saw it coming a mile away
@nexonus95135 ай бұрын
Wait till you lean the guy who made the video is a coney sub for 3 years
@toxic_shr00m5 ай бұрын
@@nexonus9513 dude comments this 5 hours after I saw the video omegalul
@George_2355 ай бұрын
I know right
@Brawlternative5 ай бұрын
@@nexonus9513 42 months, so technically 3.5 :)
@Adr16n11225 ай бұрын
Coney's genuine joy as he yells "Its a weird percentage thing! I love brawl." I felt that.
@John123465 ай бұрын
So, there is a reason why Sheik Ganon was such a bad matchup, and it was because Ganon was literally unable to approach through Sheik's old SideB Chain while she was under a platform. The move was simply too large, and was also transcendent, and it prevented quite literally all of his frontal approaches from working, even if he came in from behind where Chain loses a bit of range. His only real way to fight against it was to come in from above with an aerial (usually Dair), but if there was a platform in the way there was quite literally no reliable way for him to set that up properly. With this in mind, it gave Sheik a very mindless wincon via timeout if she ever got the lead.
@fromundaman3 ай бұрын
Glad someone said this. I was thinking her wincon was related to chain but it's been so long I couldn't remember why.
@bottleneck-55485 ай бұрын
Coney confidently trying to prove someone wrong on the internet and then embarrassing himself on stream is the most Coney thing ever.
@gamer-qk8vd5 ай бұрын
At SmashCon 2023 I watched a guy practice the ZSS down smash loops on a cpu while he was waiting for his pools match. Unbroken stare at the CRT for like 15 minutes
@LunaticJ5 ай бұрын
It’s funny whenever Coney talks about Brawl, he tries so hard to convince chat Ness is a well designed character lol
@Sizzyl5 ай бұрын
coney losing to the level 1 gannon really sells this video for me
@DrSwazz5 ай бұрын
21:40 Uh oh, back to the lab again
@cfino95 ай бұрын
lmao
@ilostthecat69735 ай бұрын
Idk if this counts but when customs were legal villager vs little Mac was unwinnable for Mac. Villager just places the trip sapling in center stage and shoots you with Lloyd and sling shot and there’s just nothing Mac can do against it
@heartnet402 ай бұрын
Customs were CRAZY, Lucina had a true combo into a super early kill with custom moves off of a grab. I whole heartedly believe that if Customs stayed, Lucina would have been Top 5 just on that alone.
@MasterHeracross5 ай бұрын
I literally just finished the video coney's reacting to. Talk about timing. Also I was surprised to learn that brawlalternative is a new channel making new brawl content in this day and age is an odd choice but a welcomed one.
@wumbojet5 ай бұрын
Bro is like an archeologist exploring the pyramids of Giza lmao
@dumbchild15145 ай бұрын
Do not be deceived KZbin viewers, not only did he mention Pikachu fox in the original video, but the end of this video was a falsehood, he played 0 brawl after the screen faded to black, despite the implication. Coney is not to be trusted
@AlanMcClure-zu5cd5 ай бұрын
Hey Coney! Judo here on my silly mobile screen name. Ftilt has percent windows starting at like 25 unstale. But it does true combo into usmash when started at the correct time. Also Ganon literally cant hit Sheik with her chain out under a platform. And needles are hard for him to deal with. Also ftilt to fair hits him at angles he can't recover from. Might not be the worst matchup but its really really bad.
@cfino95 ай бұрын
hi judo :3 miss ya bud
@maxpower76125 ай бұрын
If you buffer the ftilt, sheik can start it as low as 8% on fox (and falco), leading to touch of deaths off of a single falling aerial or an utilt at 0%. It's really broken once it connects, but at least it loses to shield...
@embert.k.21075 ай бұрын
I actually got hit by that Sheik F-Tilt infinite in bracket and I had no idea how to deal with it
@ItsMeChair15 ай бұрын
Coney has been dethroned for Brawl content
@donkylefernandez46804 ай бұрын
They over corrected Wario's air friction in smash 4 by making him a pseudo Jiggly Puff
@illyon10923 ай бұрын
20:06 "when you playing Fraymakers", nice. The nine people that play this Early Access game competitively will be waiting.
@jackconrad78515 ай бұрын
16:57 this chatter brings up a good question...
@babsbabsbabsbabs5 ай бұрын
Played an Ultimate Local for the first time couple years ago, got all the way to semi-finals with Lucas only losing once. Lost 2-0 to a Marth. That generational hate goes far.
@saltifyy5 ай бұрын
When I watched the Ness Marth video all I could think of was how inevitable a Coney reaction was
@AverageDoctor3455 ай бұрын
Opening with Checker Knights startled me, I use that for my alarm lmao
@onlysmiles49495 ай бұрын
"It was banned out of pity" is incredible
@Delta21OnYT5 ай бұрын
Jokes on you Coney I already hate myself
@YouTube_itself5 ай бұрын
I saw this video and thought, man coney has talked a lot about this machup. Glad to see you covering it
@trueblueryu57135 ай бұрын
Training specifically in Brawl for Supernova, AKA Super Smash con. I’ll also enter 64, since those 2 had the lowest turnout at last year’s smash con, and I enjoyed the games I played there quite a lot last year.
@cfino95 ай бұрын
good luck, see you there :)
@dragocrafterr82865 ай бұрын
someone referencing mikeneko 9:55 in a coney video is wild
@byrontheusurper65055 ай бұрын
I love smash history so much for no reason
@calapai75 ай бұрын
Honestly someone could make a cool 10-15 minute video about Sonix % Mario 64 Speedruns. You explain what a timeout is, why Sonic and Sonix do it, but also Gluto and Dabuz, introduce Coney and document the attempts until he finally achieved it. I was there.
@drstclair5 ай бұрын
I had this playing while playing while laying in bed. I fell asleep and Coney was in my dream. While on a field trip in the dream, i told him that Brawlternativ put out a new video about the 60:40 ditto. He acted like he didnt hear me, and proceeded to work on the video as if he just saw the video in his subscriptions. I proceeded to look up a video I had seen with the worst fighting game matchups overall I had seen. The video was from Hold Back to Block, and I was thinking of Iori vs Chin. What an odd thing to dream, but I would love videos about both videos!
@jayde48725 ай бұрын
5:55 he did snap your neck. I definitely remember because I would grab a lot as Snake because of it.
@calic7375 ай бұрын
I don't think we talked about buffer grabs. Pikachu could also chain grab other characters a lot more than you would at first think.
@karlispovisils52975 ай бұрын
In a cheesy Russian accent: “You want to debunk Brawlternative? No, no, no. Brawlternative debunk you!”
@dangangalaxy97595 ай бұрын
Man I forgot Brawl had the best music and sound design in the series
@DMMegsie5 ай бұрын
"This guy is wrong!" Proceeds to debunk their own personal theories.. proving the original to be more true.. "Editor!"
@ConnorGrummer5 ай бұрын
Never change, Coney
@LuigiLitoLL5 ай бұрын
4:50 hehe, yeah...*sobs internally*
@Caw50Ай бұрын
5:28 we have to find the median height of the cast since he's implying that's the closest to his height
@virgilgc5 ай бұрын
The ending was literally, bar by bar, "respect your elders" 2
@kirbleramiku5 ай бұрын
new coney video comes out while im watching another coney video. life is good.
@1000g2g3g4g8009994 ай бұрын
I thought Wario's air friction was deliberate, since he functionally has instant midair horizontal acceleration.
@SomniaCE2 ай бұрын
"Not in my region, get fucked Pink Fresh" is gold
@joelnub95474 ай бұрын
Snakes brawl down throw is just like it is in ult where he gently lays you down.... i always thought that throw was really funny cause if you dont do the pummel its like hes getting ready to tuck you into bed
@cdogthehedgehog69233 ай бұрын
My favorite throw is either snake's down, or Dr. Mario back throw. Thet yeet just has so much aura
@Disisdabeast5 ай бұрын
I WAS WAITING FOR CONEY TO REACT TO THIS VIDEO LETS GOOOOOO
@spaceace91035 ай бұрын
It was so cool hearing some Brawl tech I heard from oldman Coney being mentioned on Brawlternative.
@randommaster065 ай бұрын
Props to Coney for actually testing the Brawl moves.
@whitekj035 ай бұрын
I'm 30 and remember being the youngest at Brawl tournaments back in '09 lol I'm here because I remember Coney all the way back from AllisBrawl. Brawl brings back the memories for sure 😢
@cfino95 ай бұрын
come back to brawl :D
@saxeladude4 ай бұрын
less than a minute in just goes to show how much good editing can bring in an audience.
@Goofzillers5 ай бұрын
I thought on FD specifically, Sheik could just use her side b and Ganon had no way to get around it.
@byrontheusurper65055 ай бұрын
9:33 ngl that is gorgeous
@1000g2g3g4g8009994 ай бұрын
There were definitely ways to do the Marth v PSI kid infinite without moving across the stage.
@SSSoftboiSupreme4 ай бұрын
it's a good thing lucas' family isn't around to see him jobbing to the cast of brawl like that
@user-bkey3 ай бұрын
him failing to prove him wrong murders me omg
@Taenarius5 ай бұрын
Oh hey, I saw someone in the comments of that video saying that Coney should watch this, and now here it is, Coney watching it
@tootsie_5 ай бұрын
This is like your dad sharing his "back in my day" stories.
@RufioTheThird5 ай бұрын
I CALLED IT
@ngcf42385 ай бұрын
Coney & Smash bros name a more iconic duo
@Losttael5 ай бұрын
"Im not teaming with a Wolf, for money" 😂😂
@YargyTheLandPirate5 ай бұрын
Love that coney has a channel all for himself to react to
@illford5 ай бұрын
so for Coney and anyone else, Air Friction is just ground friction but for the air so it's the parameter that controls how long it takes to come to 0 horizontal velocity in the air. Air Mobility/Acceleration describes how much input affects your velocity in the air
@felipegodoy53425 ай бұрын
I've never seen coney happier talking about brawl lmao
@JDizzle_985 ай бұрын
I thought i saw that Brawl Icies vs Ganondorf was a 100-0 matchup somewhere
@cfino95 ай бұрын
when you're aware that things like mk ganon is just surface level talk, but are still victim to over generalization of match-ups on smashboards. brawl life is tough, lol
@lancelee3385 ай бұрын
I was so surprised Coney admitted defeat
@ruben_re91805 ай бұрын
Editors did indeed, not skip that.
@michaelsponseller53374 ай бұрын
this entire video is coney eating ratatouille
@sirhawkjames5 ай бұрын
that ending ICANT
@leafofufo32645 ай бұрын
I saw this video on release, and instantly knew you were making a video
@gamerfreakinfoXD5 ай бұрын
I love coney because deep down I just feel like he wanted to find a way to play brawl on stream
@YOSSARIAN3133 ай бұрын
My favorite 95:5 matchup is villager vs piranha plant in ultimate
@DoMorrMusic5 ай бұрын
oh yeah I remember tweeting this at Coney
@kingkunikida11135 ай бұрын
I was literally praying that coney would react to this, my day has been made better.
@itsneek14615 ай бұрын
was watching this guy yesterday and praying coney saw him lmao
@byrontheusurper65055 ай бұрын
Didn't know melee ganon was mid tier, feels weird for him to be any more than ass
@kholdseid66145 ай бұрын
When I saw this video I was hoping Coney would watch it
@Hoodiebud5 ай бұрын
the thumbnail made me temporarily think the title said "This Smash Bros. character will make you kill yourself." which doesn't change much.
@AutisticJesusGaming5 ай бұрын
I LOTERALLY WAS JUST HOPINg! You would cover this guy he’s so cool!
@legendarysoil10645 ай бұрын
I saw the thumbnail and thought it would be a lazy rehashing of good content, turns out it was just good content.
@DealbreakrJones5 ай бұрын
2:40 why did that guy sound like a Baldi's character
@SonicTheCutehog5 ай бұрын
"Um acktually it can't be THE worst because Lucas has the same problem too 🤓"
@bucketfullabiscuits78655 ай бұрын
This brawl channel is so fucking cool I love it
@oliverrepp1312 ай бұрын
You literally sound like Ludwig 1:1 and I love it haha
@Hoenn1015 ай бұрын
I think it’s actually probably a brawl ice climber matchup
@Bloodyknite5 ай бұрын
>he doesn’t know how bad it is for ganon KEK
@Crazy56U5 ай бұрын
We can finally put Grandpa in the home, let’s go.
@Lando-My-Love5 ай бұрын
How fitting that an ex Brawl Pro now stands to succeed BrawlPro
@dasnab22315 ай бұрын
Coney would get air released hahaha I spit my beer out
@karatehottie95855 ай бұрын
Just crazy I saw brawls 2014 list and it’s full of predators
@TheStickCollector5 ай бұрын
Interesting. This game feels like a rite of passage for new competitors
@cfino95 ай бұрын
would love to see more people take it
@Joepuh5 ай бұрын
the worst brawl mu is ganon ice climbers because ganon has literally 0 options to deal with desync blizzard wall
@Magic_Ice5 ай бұрын
I first watched this video when it was less than a thousand views and the first few comments were all saying they wanted coney to see it.
@NickRiddle5 ай бұрын
The actual worst MU is definitely ICs vs. Ganon... Desynch blizzard/uair if he jumps was unbeatable
@shadestrider10335 ай бұрын
Nah, At least Ganon has some tools in this matchup. He did have Dair and he could utilize flight of Ganon. Marth was so custom built to invalidate Ness’s kit that Ness loses even if he tried to play around Marth’s Grab.
@ethancotton99785 ай бұрын
DIVINE EMPEROR CONEY 午安 5 MOVES OF HEAVENLY VIRTUE 好運展覽 MANY BLESSINGS AND FORTUNES 良性表現 DIVINE EMPEROR CONEY 午安 5 MOVES OF HEAVENLY VIRTUE 好運展覽 MANY BLESSINGS AND FORTUNES 良性表現