This Spec Makes You Feel Like You're Hacking In The War Within

[@therockontheshelf]

Main changes - Mastery gives raw damage increase now but the overloads are massively nerfed both in terms of damage and maelstrom generation. Earthquake has option where it just auto casts at target location huge quality of life improvement there. Ele blast and Earth shock are choice node now meaning ele blast might be taken in pvp, it also is instant cast with natures swiftness so huge burst potential there especially with mini lust/on use ascendance with 25% haste, maybe even with volcanic surge talent. New stats might be haste-crit/verse-mastery. Our crit damage got buffed even more, and with skyfury being built into PW via the pvp talent its one less GCD to use. Crit will affect ele blast, flameshock, frost shock/icefury and lava burst during ascendance which is quite often now and opens up a huge burst CD with on use ascendance which we can get in addition to DRE now, plus on use ascendance lasts longer and gives 25% haste while active. No more trying to hard cast icefury its a proc thing now, overall great change tho baiting kicks with icefury was sometimes useful since only locks frost. Easier access to liquid magma, tho still not sure if will be taken in pvp. Class tree changes are great bit more survivability especially with seasoned winds which puts is solid as an anti caster class though still prob struggle vs melee cleaves especially with static CD nerf. Sadly its all up in the air now as the vast majority of our damage both pvp and pve comes from PW tier set interaction the uptime of the haste buff from the reduced cd on it. Not too familiar with most other classes but i feel like the tier sets contribution to ele power was way higher than other classes so if we get a bad new tier set i feel like were going straight in the dumster again.

[@TheMost4422]

Ven on his usual “try to get other specs nerfed so my mage can be better” routine. Shaman has gotten 10% of what mages have had and continue to have btw

[@axtinwow]

you sound really really dumb

[@manasmira]

42-0 on sham rn was as easy as getting combatant rn

[@TheTama8]

Agreed. I think that anyone (Ven) who doesn't main a spec shouldn't be making sweeping statements and conclusions on said spec without significant time investment to properly know the class/spec. You're bound not to have an accurate view on it. Not to mention that prepatch always has balance issues.

[@PurpleDragonSpike]

Ele is literally laughably broken compared to a mage right now, what are you smoking?

[@TheMost4422]

@@PurpleDragonSpike bro try arcane mage and get back to me, one SS match should be enough for you to see what I’m talking about

[@elobitoxo]

Magma totem did the same all through Dragonflight. Just poor ele didn't get all the extra love as they did recently like Skyfury. Most of the totems and things that you brought up have all been available in Dragonflight, just so much about the rotation was really clunky.

[@Telarius]

Did you watch thr dam video bro. Lmao. It's slot got moved. You couldn't reasonably get it before. Now it's essentially free

[@elobitoxo]

@@Telarius couldn't get what? Magma totem? Sky fury? Did you even ready the damn comment I made?

[@Telarius]

@@elobitoxo Do you understand what people mean when they say they can't get a talent? It means there are more important options for pvp. Lol...

[@elobitoxo]

@@Telarius All I did was say that Magma totem did the same in Dragonflight. Where it puts Flame Shock on multiple targets and that MOST of the totems have always been available. Just cuz they were on a path that most heavy pvpers wouldn't choose, doesn't mean they weren't available. It's new to Venruki cuz he's on the same boat where he wouldn't pick it, so it's like it's brand new to him. I'm not gonna continue this with you.

[@omniX1D3]

@@elobitoxo Was already said in the video it did the same thing before but it was impossible to get (for PvP obviously since it's Venruki)... Nothing you said was anything that wasn't already stated by Venruki in some form... So it just seems like you posted without watching the whole thing.

[@TheBigupz]

that totem has existed since SL, it was mostly used for M+ "sometimes" it puts 3 flameshocks, honestly i rather have the talent we had that made a proc put flasmeshock on 2 targets on cast after a LB or something

[@Halfhaphazard]

we dont have the talent that does earthshock + flame shock spreads to two people anymore?

[@TheBigupz]

@@Halfhaphazard nope idts I haven’t seen my flame shock apply to 2 targets and been trying everything

[@thegamingvan]

@@Halfhaphazard Yes you do, but its a choice between this talent and the one that has a chance to refund mealstorm(pretty high up in the tree)

[@TheTama8]

Surge of Power, choice node with Aftershock - now third row from the top, in the middle.

[@minecraftminer59mineboymin38]

ele was like this in dragonflight aswell, nothing changed barely

[@wolfster2287]

Defense wise it was horrible. Looks like it’s a bit better now.

[@kubasniak]

yeah you pop ascendance and get insta stunned and there goes your hacking lmao

[@DustinBeach-h9b]

It's OP right now because of the current 4 piece bonus

[@Blood_Ronin]

I thought tier was disabled now, is it not?

[@glndopangamer]

@@Blood_Ronin nop

[@dontreplytome5665]

​@@Blood_Roninit should be

[@Blood_Ronin]

@@dontreplytome5665 it is for sure. I could have sworn I read a post about tier being disabled, but I was wrong.

[@angussinclair3041]

I don't know......I just went 6/6 in a Solo Shuffle and did 88M dmg without the 4 set bonus yet (only 2 set)

[@geekstomper5562]

bro im having so much fun in this prepatch TBH ive been glued to my pc all day playing every spec . fury war and boomkin my favs so far but i still have a lot to test. your video makes me wanna lvl my shammy lol

[@SilentMeDude]

Nothing will ever be better than cata ele. Casting while using lightning bolt was top tier gameplay! Everyone is saying “bfa” or “sl” lol. It’s no where near what it use to be 😩

[@DaltonSavage-f3u]

Capping mastery in full heroic raid gear and spamming chain lightning on all the horde that spawn in a battleground graveyard yea cata ele was peak

[@alexhtx8932]

Same In mop, running and casting lightning bolt was great

[@SilentMeDude]

@@alexhtx8932 sadly when MOP dropped I was fresh 18 and moved out so didn’t have a pc until a week before WOD dropped 🤣🤣🤣

[@thomz.azeroth]

@@alexhtx8932 MOP was the best time for sure.

[@fogismaximus]

I ran the magma totem for a grip. So many dispels it made it much nicer to get that spread in 3v3

[@Spaghettidash]

This design used to be in effect for warlock but it was deemed a bug and unintended. They cut havoc down to 50% damage on its cleave. Weird they wouldn’t cap how many -chaosbolts- I mean lava bursts you can slam out. Let alone make it instant cast

[@randomjimbitz512]

Ele has the most statisfying spell sounds

[@kakkycoasties8670]

100%

[@Musicbypinge]

I just wanna say that i love seeing you play different classes and commenting them etc, its so damn much fun and its so nice getting a good and professional insight into what the classes do.

[@RobertoVillaLobby]

Dude this looks insane. I mained Ele last season before taking a break but gotta checkt his out. The dmg was already very high before this

[@CP_Tacti]

Been a long time Shaman player, mostly enhance but dabbling in Ele. This may be the first season I "main" Ele rather than enhance, it is so fun to play now!

[@Dreamlink91]

my mm hunter finaly feels like that aswell, i took wowhead talents and changed them a bit to what i like i got 478il in pvp gear and doing 600k+ bursts its crazy and i love it

[@dobro5958]

I like how everyone suddenly started to play DKs and elemental shamans. Interesting gameplay I guess.

[@cakiftw]

I remember when you made Procpooer back in MoP, the name is still relevant :)

[@marsh3674]

I wouldn’t mind shaman being 3 times as overpowered as long as the rogues are kept in check, i would give up a whole lot of class balance for a reasonable amount of rogue balance.

[@felipeguzman696]

magma totem always were there

[@MI-wf1lw]

I hope they dont nerf ele because of pre patch. Its op because its not tuned on lvl 70, current tier set and also ele have weak hero talents on lvl 80.

[@SnowolfPvP]

I tried it on beta, it's the same if not worst coz of hero talents. I can push out close to 1M dps on single target with CDs... This lava burst spam nonsense have to go.

[@attinger117]

The only thing they need to change for ele is all the sources of large haste. Primordial wave procs 24-40% haste for 12 seconds. Shamanism(bloodlust PvP talent) procs 20% haste for 10 seconds. Ascendance procs 25% haste for the duration if you choose the 3 minute version. So even if you gear 0% haste in season 1 and stack mastery, you could have a window of 70% haste if you combined abilities. This will lead to imbalance and degenerate builds that are either one shotting you or doing nothing.

[@sladnam7480]

I can't tell if WoW is more fun when its just everyone does huge dam and never CCs. Basically making it a healer check or a more setup style of play where you lockdown a healer with cc inside a kill window.

[@GautierBENOIST]

Hello, I don't understand how you get several time the effect of primordial wave. (you cast primordial wave, your targets have flame shock dot thanks to the totem, then you do lava burst on every target) But in the video it seems that your lava burst hit all the dot targets several time, I thought it was one time a primordial wave.

[@SnowolfPvP]

4p set bonus, but it's only 30% effective in pvp

[@GautierBENOIST]

@@SnowolfPvP

[@Hogmandoesit]

So whats the tech?

[@valsorim100]

Just because other specs are shit, doesnt mean ele is overpowered. They did “rework”, which my grandma would do better, and it just happens to be that ele is doing too much dmg cause of mastery. Now, because how ppl are crying lately about shamans, they will probably destroy it completly, so dont worry.. and your broken rogue and mages will still be broken, like in last 20 years

[@Eastr0n]

Should also continue to consider that this is pre-patch, with off-stats outta whack. Will be interesting to see how the class scales when at 80 with TWW PVP gear. Would hate for it to get nerfed prematurely. Basing it off the play style, I quite enjoy the changes a lot of the QoL changes with Icefury/Ele blast/Prim wave, etc. Our Shaman talent side was previously cooked, really nice changes made to streamline choices.

[@Ryan0808s]

i havent seen an ele come even close to a dks output in shuffle or rated bg not even close. 6-7 shuffles healed DK #1 every game 6-0

[@jessekappler4160]

dh has permanent 60% move speed, it's broken too.

[@frostgodx]

And just got a buff!

[@Mitss_ORLY]

The buffs are for the beta servers bro​@@frostgodx

[@Ruberg89]

Inthink you need to build in Wind rush totem. 40% speed and remove snares = around 220% movementspeed in ghostwolf while melee is spamming gap closers. Beside static field and Earthgrab you are close to untouchable while spamming meatballs all over. Its insane atm 10-20% nerf to all dmg inc

[@SnowolfPvP]

25% less lava burst damage, pwave haste nerf to 10%, remove BL pvp talent, and all the problem solved. Flat all damage nerf is not a good solution, they have to fix the source of the problems. Right now this build is beyond broken (saying this as enha/ele shaman main since LK)

[@apierson244]

things are broke at prepatch???? who wouldve guessed that lmao

[@iantoner9423]

I have serious question here that in all my years of wow I never thought of. Is Proc short for something?

[@chc2650]

Programmed Random OCcurance.

[@nemak89]

I did not play the game for while - how is solo queue ranked PvP going? Solo shuffle still 40 minutes ques? Did they (will they in next expansion) implement solo queue Ranked BGs (I remember hearing they were going to when I was playing)?

[@zomgbbqsauce12345]

we won't have nearly this much haste first season of TWW though

[@elefusion5142]

Yeah pre-patches are always weird with balance. Everyone has their giga end of expansion stats, with spells tuned for the new max level so any pvp in pre-patch is essentially everyone playing fully geared twinks lol. Nevermind no one is able to use their hero talents yet either. Still looking forward to ele nonetheless

[@minecraftminer59mineboymin38]

he pooped blood lust aswell

[@Jay-jayy-n9u]

Yeah even at max gear s1 tww, the haste I’ve seen is like 20% with 30 % masteryv

[@ninoosterberger508]

Shaman basically barely changed from previous iteration - guess he is just salty because he got his ass whiped by an Shaman and now he must make a vid about like "oh wow! Shamy so stronkkk! Totem spreads flameshock?? brutal! 25 haste while ascension? OP!!! "yeah.... what a chad

[@tacticalchili]

Fun detected - Nerfs will be incoming by Monday,,it is Wed.

[@StrobeFireStudios]

Elemental is so cool now. Frost Mage is too. I love my classes :)

[@jesh010]

Dang this looks fun. Blizz said instant casts were too strong when shadow priests had them lol🤡This is a whole other level.

[@SQLdb]

It baffles me that they havent reworked this spec out of being a 1 button macro spec.

[@Khine-i6t]

Ven doing it best to get ele nurfed 😂

[@MalamIbnMalam]

He truly is, I have seen a lot of videos pertaining to Ele Shams on War Within Beta. Ele is definitely nowhere near Broken.

[@rdawp5322]

haha "not nowhere near broken" says a main ele shaman.. if this is not broken i do not waht is hahah he literally kills the entire team himself with no casts all instant spells :D

[@MrMcDiamond]

how do you have healing stream totem without speccng into it ? XD

[@MsExercisefreak]

@venruki did u have the talents for this build?

[@StrobeFireStudios]

I 6-0'd 4 lobbies in a row last night. It's definitely not okay, but it's extremely funny

[@imnonono]

Shaman will be king of BGs

[@Brok3n_54]

Whelp this video just got Shaman nerfed ……..

[@Darksideofamoon777]

The CD on flame shock made it really annoying to spread before.

[@harrydean1020]

Please, do video on arcane mage. Changes on arcane missiles look horrible and I don’t get why people think that rework was good

[@beben9879]

Ele IS cool, but i prefer m'y fire mage. You have soo many instant cast ! Survivability buff to

[@frostgodx]

What they looking like in TWW

[@KLindz91]

That 15% damn reduction per kick is crazy, how does that not get nerfed

[@LuisFernando-cg4ul]

That talent pvp is only for You

[@SnowolfPvP]

It was a pvp talent before pre-patch, but was rarely used coz we had no free slot for that

[@LuckyLook898]

Good job venruki. They nerf him after this video!!!

[@SGTOldSchool96]

They got nerfed to the ground, thanks man....

[@danzoeee]

Prepatch broken, the time you dont want to be broken! It plays in a fun way tho, especially the lightning weaving builds so, at least that.

[@xwartornx]

yeah unfort if ur broken af in pre patch you know ur gonna get hammered when the actual expac drops lol

[@danzoeee]

@@xwartornx why would they ever balance around prepatch when they got beta going

[@xwartornx]

@@danzoeee what i mean when i say that is 8/10 if ur class is really strong in pre patch it gets nerfed when the actual Expac drops its happens more then people think

[@zomgbbqsauce12345]

@@xwartornx yeah like DK going into dragonflight lol

[@125conman]

After playing Ele in cata classic this looks SO strange

[@tonyananiev1363]

Elemental shamans and DK's are insane OP and they nerfing other classes madness

[@joshuat2751]

guess hes never played shaman before.. literally how it was alll of DF sadly.

[@goon825]

Ele is so op when they don't get targeted or have a great healer 😂 I started playing one and got too 2k in under a week lol

[@SilentMeDude]

Yeah I’m absolutely going lightning bolt build. And I can’t waot

[@SnowolfPvP]

People will recognize ascendance soon to be "scary" so it's will be just the "CC me now!" annuance. Also, Bulwark totem will be 3 min CD (it's already on beta) so you can't reset it. It's almost useless since it's absorbs less than a mage shield except it's will have 6x the cooldown :D There are way better builds than this 'tard friendly lava burst spam build, it's okay for starters and who want to have "fun" moments on random bg's.

[@CondorWoW]

I started playing Rsham in S2 of Dragonflight to play healer in solo shuffle in order to get better queues, and Ele shaman slowly became my favorite spec. I know I wasnt in the trenches with the Ele shaman community since BfA or SL, but these changes are so fun

[@matiasblumell2942]

destro - ele stonks

[@yedessjr]

My first glad !

[@TheOfficialRiseGaming]

Ele looks SO fun! Mind linking the talents?

[@Efishnseetv]

“Quality of life changes” …. LOL! “Easy to do dmg” …?! They REMOVED Windspeakers … HUGE mistake from blizzard !!!

[@dobro5958]

Comfy Cash one taps people for 2m damage the whole Dragonflight... Now any elemental shaman can do the same even with haste. Not much changed.

[@stefeninspringfield]

PVPERS going to wind up getting ELE nerfed and ruin it for PVE lol

[@Cmoondog1]

They overtuned it for pve and pvp is suffering for it lmfao

[@exa7435]

just gid gud mate

[@nxlvlx]

Lol who cares about Pve

[@rohan1449]

@@nxlvlx about 90 percent of the player base.

[@nxlvlx]

@@rohan1449 true fact, but not not much of skill needed, from a Glad and HOTH pov

[@Iza92i]

I guess Im going back to twink my ele, just played it in saison 2 / 3 as enhc and ele (with one shot build) was quite funny in BGs and SS when ppl didnt what happend and u lava penetrate any class :D

[@memorial6]

what a terrible class design, caster that doesnt have to cast, good old times where you get dopamine rush from creating space for yourself to get juicy casts off, now you just spam 1 2 3 and 4 occasionly 4 when it highlights itself while jumping around

[@ZblockWoW]

3 week suspension inc

[@Knasern]

i enjoyed enhance pvp in season 4, hopefully ele will be fun in tww..looks like it will. But time will tell.

[@Memoop-iz6vk]

Shaman actually getting love it deserved was mediocre the whole xpac of df

[@WalterFelts]

I’m all for any dps class pumping huge damage as long as Blizz removes the majority of there defensives. Can’t have both!! That’s where it gets stupid. For example a tank and or healer should not be able to die to a single dps but in turn they should never be able to kill a dps. Having a healer kill you in pvp while remaining at full health is just stupid. Same as having another dps pump out crazy numbers while absorbing all your damage is stupid.

[@chrislake6001]

We got nerfed

[@saiilolz2720]

Bro…

[@zeljakis817]

Why I am not excited for war within..

[@vidarmoon]

Stop making these videos. Let Ele be good for ONCE. MAGES ARE ALWAYS GOOD.

[@The_Fictionist]

Thanks for the public service getting this giga nerfed before S1 starts haha

[@justtellmethetruth7377]

Magna totem is nothing new and could easily be spec'd into. Deeply Rooted has a very low proc rate, completely random & unreliable. The new Icefury mechanic also has a very low proc rate for frost shock, and also is very random. Deeply rooted & Icefury are poor mechanics in my view.

[@Illyrian99]

amazing

[@attinger117]

This video is cringe for anyone who actually knows about shaman

[@FCBcubano]

Poor druids...got the worst of it all..dmg nerfs..survivability nerf

[@EpicWInGameplays]

Well, lets hope blizzard does the smart thing, and individually tunes shammy back for pvp only in some way. Ive seen nothing but videos crying about Shammy. Its fucking prepatch, balance is off and that is not something new. Watching streamers and content creators influence the game balance to their PERSONAL preferences is slowly killing it. But its a double edged sword, the content is good most of the time, but blizzard also watches the content. So, statements made by streamers and content creators out of frustration can completely kneecap class balance if it gets enough reach. They influence certain balance tuning because of their prestige and history in the game (which should NOT happen). Some realize this and address things reasonably, and some do it purposely (at times) like ven. Its fucking awful for players who just want to have fun.

[@kevinjs26]

It's not nearly as good as it's looking right now. It'll drop back down pretty quick once the expansion releases.

[@Asmodeius]

yeah it's all good and dandy except you now absolutely HAVE TOO stack haste, and you need to sacrefy something for that skyfury from defensives. play some arena, you will see, with how much you get trained, it will be nearly impossible to cast and your sky fury goes to drain cause you NEEED borrow, static totem and grounding.

[@alexhtx8932]

I do fine on rated arenas. Dks are a nightmare though

[@Dreampiece.]

Venruki dropping the SMEGMA TOTEM mispronounciation

[@minecraftminer59mineboymin38]

you using thunderstorm too little

[@Bigalwarrior]

They couldn’t find these problems when it was beta, lol

[@Sarok-rw2ri]

Hi Venruki can you send me the CD Makro pls

[@weirdodude1173]

There are definitely a few specs that are broken right now. Thumbs up for mayhem!

[@moomoodeadcow]

It feel like they're working to double down on this aoe thing. It's more and more like everyone aoe everything all the time.

[@RaelThomas]

It's not good. This is exactly what's wrong with modern wow PvP. It's so oversaturated with crap that it's just ridiculous.

[@Eckbet]

casters that dont cast..... amazing Blizz.....

[@emansfield2017]

Here comes the mage players crying about shamans again

[@vorkanyx2172]

"Ohh they can have both ascendance and ascendance proc blablabla" It was like with all DF Ven. Don't do us like you did to ret. Learn the class history before talking bad on us thanks! Oh and no one will take shamanis AND skyfury totem! Like burrow and static are useless now?

[@joshd3043]

I hope the numbers get turned down so not everyone Plays it lol

[@gtzarchitecturevisuals5458]

looks rly funny :D

[@acap24]

Why are you snitching tho

[@j4ywalker927]

Why do Venruki have the dumbest youtube commentators? People in here trying to justify that ele is actually not good at all and saying Ven is only doing this to they don't nerf his main mages speccs.

[@jesuscollazo4303]

I been playing shaman else it’s fun lol

[@Derz9]

Bro is the avatar at this point. Lol

[@noduj]

I don't know, i'm not a fan of this design, its just too much.