This was KILLING this cards performance!

This card gained a TON of performance by fixing this issue!
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[@Lustanda]

I was here when J did the gag with the 780 and he said "Where's the Ti!?" Seeing the reference 980 sure was a blast from the past.

[@MrJimmyPenguin]

It’s also still very nice seeing he’s maintained and kept so much weight off, I remember widdde J

[@chaosordeal294]

"Blast from the past." I was gaming on a 970 until a year ago. And, honestly, it played games just fine.

[@PTFuZi]

My 980 died a few weeks ago

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

Probably should’ve taken the cooler apart too, the shroud around the heat sink means there can actually be a lot of dust that gets accumulated on the heat sink itself that’s not that easy to blow out. A great video nonetheless, repasting does so much for anything pre-2021 when manufacturers moved on to using phase change material

[@Bangulo]

I thought the same especially with that crappy blower he used. Honestly the video felt half assed to me.

[@LedNe0nDevil]

@@BanguloHello, it went from 84º with no fan speed. To 64º with fan at 100%. All they showed was no fan vs fan speed at max. You think these whales move?.

[@GonzoSD316]

I LOVE Phil’s laugh. The end got me 😂 💀 Great video as always!

[@Mr_Spock512]

I love the whole crew ... Phil is a talented editor. I've learned so much about computer hardware on this channel over the years, it's presented in a fun and entertaining fashion. Just love the occasional "goofyness". 😂

[@DethNade]

me to lol

[@Techademics]

Recently picked up a second hand RTX 2080 Ti with the same issues. I replaced the fans, replaced the thermal paste & pads, and cleaned it up. Now it works like its brand new 👌🏼

[@GregoryShtevensh]

Good card too. Probably better than a 3070

[@MikeSims1103]

What parts did you use/get to do it? My 2080 Ti is at best loud now and sounding not in great shape, and no clue about performance degradation. I have an i9-9900 and I do need to get a new computer soon(?) but throwing a 4070 or something in here at this point just seems silly.

[@rustler08]

​@@GregoryShtevenshKind of. The 3070 is a bit faster and doesn't have memory chiplets that kill themselves. But, a few more gigs is nice for the 2080 Ti. Honestly, I'd probably take a 3070. It's a newer card with better DLSS and everything.

[@GregoryShtevensh]

@rustler08 neither get dlss 3.0, and both can use DLSS 2.0, but I get you though. It's just the vram that's going to make the 2080ti a better card in some situations. HW unboxed showed this with 8gb cards in the past. Mind you, updates may have changed some of those issues

[@Torchedini]

@@GregoryShtevensh Updates can't fix memory, they'll just serve you low textures faster/more often.

[@denysak]

That gpu design is a piece of art

[@jolness1]

Besides the thermals, my 1080ti had the same cooler and it… got hot as fuck. Even when new. Does look good. The FE cards this gen are beautiful and the thermals are great.

[@bonanzabrandon6877]

@@jolness1 Yeah there's a reason that blower coolers went the way of the dodo. They don't have the cooling capacity needed for modern cards. I'm a stickler for noise in my PC. I was using a stock 3080 for a while, but during gaming the fan would spin up to max and I couldn't stand it so I slapped a waterblock on it and now I can game in blissful silence.

[@Beezzzzy_]

They’re so loud and the temps suck lol

[@thepropcollet]

The 700 series first used this design. My EVGA 780 was one of the loudest pieces of gear i've ever owned.@@Beezzzzy_

[@Fletchersketche_]

Another person of culture! I was just about to comment the same thing. I really want a 1080ti version just because it's the card I always wanted back in the day.

[@mindblah]

That ending! LOL If he went from a happy to horrified expression it would have been a twitch emote for sure! LOL

[@Lurker-dk8jk]

Was going to say the same thing. His face got all stretchy.

[@michaelmonstar4276]

He turned into Sid from Ice Age.

[@dangingerich2559]

I have an old 980Ti and an old 750Ti I cleaned up and repasted about two years ago. That really helped the performance a lot on both of them.

[@AlphaMachina]

You mentioned the whole dead person being in the GPU thing. It reminded me of a story a coworker told me when I worked at a data center in Mexico about how a new NOC employee/intern got stuck/locked in one of the server racks during a holiday weekend, and he stayed trapped in there standing upright unable to sit down because there wasn't enough room to move for the 4 day break. Other people were in and out of the data center, but it was such a massive place and so loud, even though he could hear the doors (they make a loud beep when opened), they couldn't hear him screaming. But even worse, he knew the entire time that there was a fire suppression system test coming at the end of the holiday weekend, so he would have been panicking, because when the other employees got back they did a sweep of the data center to make sure it was empty of people, and then they activated a test of their argon fire suppression system while there was "no one left" in the data center. This system replaced all of the oxygen in the server farm with argon. The kid passed away in there, and they didn't find him until a couple days later when someone came to switch out the tape backups. The crazy thing? All the kid had to do was reach back and pull a little latch and it would have opened the rack door from the inside.. Freaking tragedy.

[@fullboostturbo1]

Dam that is a pretty sad story the poor bugger losing his life, if only he knew about the little latch for the problem that he actually found himself in. Hopefully his in a better place now God bless him and his family.

[@sodapopinksi667]

Damn, that's quite the story. Thx for sharing

[@vedinthorn]

What? Bro I would have just started unplugging things and making a mess. Someone will come check when the entire server goes offline.

[@thestig007]

That's nuts. Definitely learn how server racks work before you climb in...

[@thestig007]

@@vedinthorn Exactly lol. Make an outage so someone comes and checks on the rack... EZ.

[@Porco1984]

I just redid paste and pads on my 2080ti this week, the memory pads were hard and crumbly as dry clay! Temps obviously came down by a significant amount, it's absolutely worth doing.

[@Dovahkiin27]

I was not ready to hear a card only 1 generation older than mine referred to as "old school".

[@jolness1]

10 series is 7yrs old now. It’s pretty old. Doesn’t mean it’s a bad card. I loved mine and only upgraded because I need a 4k monitor for coding and the poor 1080ti couldn’t run the games I play at a good frame rate at 4k. Otherwise… I’d keep using it.

[@張彥暉-v8p]

RTX 20 released on 2018, It was almost 6 years ago and GTX 10 released on 2016, It was almost 8 years ago. They are old AF.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@張彥暉-v8p And, unironically, more then enough for most things to this day. Even old 3060 is considered as a medium card that can somewhat do anything there is, and decently.

[@helenHTID]

10 years is a long time, More so in tech... That's a 10-year-old child becoming 20! In perspective. So yeah your card is old ass lol

[@ffwast]

The 900 series is the last with Windows XP drivers. It's not just old it's retro computing now.

[@devonefoster105]

These old cards can still live with the correct maintenance and still keep its performance good.

[@scythelord]

Except memory wise. They're very lacking for anything modern.

[@kivulifenrir]

@@scythelord I think it was Tom's Hardware that recently did the Titan test and it failed horribly at modern stuff.

[@daghostds]

And at worse find a new home in someone server for AI related task (Home assistant voice AI, content generation, etc.), video transcoding, video out, but personally I went for a pair of Tesla p4 instead.

[@DedlyAidan]

it really depends on the card, older high end cards (most XX80 tier cards, for example), sure, but I was stuck on a 1050 Ti for 4 years until recently, and I would not wish that on anybody, the amount of games that were either straight unplayable or had to be smeared in Vaseline was really high

[@raresmacovei8382]

​@@kivulifenrirThat's only because Kepler has aged like dogshit, probably Nvidia's worst uArch to age past GeForce 5 FX.

[@mikeclardy5689]

Hey Jay, you seem to be looking and feeling better. I hope it all stays that way. Just wishing you well man. Thanks for all the cool vids 👍

[@chrisamon5762]

I wonder if Jay has ever told a joke that Phil didn't bust a gut at?! Lmao😂

[@lifespanofafry1534]

No. The guy is obnoxious.

[@ffwast]

Fun fact: the 900 series is the last with Windows XP drivers, officially up to the 960 but with a little tweak they all work.

[@TheTechBasement]

Tks for the reminder of old paste drying out. Have a person who is having issues with an older card that needs to be replaced and cannot afford it right now. This might give it a little more life until that new graphic card can be purchased.

[@spiketamara2007]

i actually gave someone this card a year or two ago for a upgrade for them. they were still using a gtx 760

[@peksn]

That must have been huge for them, thank you for being a nice friend!!

[@spiketamara2007]

@@peksn it was heck it was a nice big upgrade for me when i bought it off a buddy that was using it since day 1 for super cheap so i figured pass on the good deed they did by selling it cheap to me by giving it away since it now was many years old the person i gave it to still uses it to this day and streams using it. im shocked it still has the horsepower to pull it all off.

[@peksn]

@@spiketamara2007 Yeah I feel like the jumps in rasterized performance in between gens are not as big anymore as they used to be going from the 600 700 900 and 1000 series, like now it's like meh

[@zoan2013]

From TechPowerUp: The GeForce GTX 980 was a high-end graphics card by NVIDIA, launched on September 19th, 2014. So almost 10 years old. Nice to see that they can still work for some.

[@HebuTheLoneWolf]

1:18 man, if they had one that was fresh out from the box never used. it would also be good to see how much the performance has decarded over the years

[@cosminmilitaru9920]

Linus tested GTX 480 new vs 10 years old used, difference was 2%, basically no degrade.

[@SiliconS32]

Performance doesn't degrade, it either works or doesn't

[@DerDieSkaSkie]

45fps in battlefield is kinda awesome for such an old card

[@wossle73]

DAMN, That's NOT DIRTY! My dog's Slept Near my PC From, 2012, When the GTX 570 was a Viable SLI Option! They Looked like "A DOGS" DEN! in 2017! DAMN 😉"Case Filters might cut Some of the AIRFLOW". But their a Shit load easier to CLEAN👍

[@tbas8741]

MY now secondary PC sat in lounge room with my old FX-8350 CPU that Idles @ 4.6ghz and boost to 4.8Ghz has not had the thermal paste reapplied in 10 years since i built it (artic silver) OVer 38,000 continous running hours (maybe been off a total of 55 hours due to power failures) The temps at idle are still Ambient +2c and at load 50c max. When i built it with new paste in 2014 it was Ambient temp at idle and 45c max under load. People who reapply thermal paste every year or X hours are just wasting time & money.

[@Revan_7even]

Repasted my MSI 1080 last month with Kryonaut Extreme and replaced the thermal pads. It no longer passes 60C.

[@Blackraven6]

Isn't it good when the paste gets squished out? means there's no gap. If there was a gap that paste could got in - it would've stayed in. It's not like you're getting air in that crevice. And metal to metal with no gap is better than any thermal paste.

[@stankonya]

i have a 1050ti that was black screening and flickering without load. I re-paste it and its perfectly fine again. so yes i agree heavily that a re-paste could do wonders! i was so close to just throwing away a good card. (ps i did upgrade to a 3060ti now and i love it)

[@lechkenassh9008]

my rule of thumb is clean it out every 6 moths and replace thermal paste every 9 months !!! if it needs it or not. but I am a smoker so that's why I clean my at these intervals. or I do both every 6 months.

[@ShintekBeats]

Why not put new thermal pads on it?

[@aleksandrbmelnikov]

Ha, ha! Jay knows what dust is REALLY made of... PEOPLE!

[@ffwast]

In a house it is! Mostly skin.

[@aleksandrbmelnikov]

@@ffwast So is Soylent Green.🍽️ Yum.😈

[@ShiftSticklerz]

My dad recommended this channel to me and I am glad he did. You just earned a sub! 😃

[@tucoramirez8397]

Look for small gunsmithing tools and brushes. A scope brush worked very well for me on fans.

[@TheGameBench]

The GTX 980 crematorium.

[@AnticAgnostic]

Scumvidia intentionally releases drivers that kill performance on older cards...

[@michaelrobinson3127]

I'm currently using a 980Ti MSI variant. I'll give this a try.

[@1sonyzz]

That gpu cooler reminded me of Jay's videos back in 2014-2015 time

[@Tommy_The_Gun]

When I got my GTX 980 in 2015 (same reference model) it was a beast. Every game I played worked no problem at max setting (stock settings, no overclocking). Unfortunately all good thing come to an end, and my GTX 980 died after like 7 years :( Started artefacting and it gotten to the point where my PC would randomly crash (in Windows or in a game). Service shop tested the card and every component was fine, except for the GPU's main CPU. And it is kinda hard to find a working GTX 980 GPU CPU module within the price that would justify the repair cost. In the end I replaced it with RTX 3060 12GB (was lucky enough to find same blower style card). Anyway, it is funny to think that even something as basic as RTX 3050 6Gb is actually faster than a former flag ship GPU and uses only fraction of the power (165 TDP vs 70 TDP). Gamers nowadays don't even realize how great things have become (aside from prices). I mean when I was using good old Voodoo 2 and later GeForce 2 I rememberer being happy that I got like 25 FPS in 800x600 lol.

[@fooferbob9230]

I know that thermal pads don't grow on trees but c'mon guys.

[@ossangameclub]

come on! No one noticed "Organic" Testing? 🤪 Love you Jay

[@maxchristianpota779]

10:30 This is odd. With my 1080ti the pad at the same position was missing. (The cooler with the original pads was boxed for 7 years, but I am pretty sure, I got all of them. Also there was no sign on the cooler, that there ever was a pad on.)

[@tannhausergate7162]

Manufacturing defects like that would be really hard to notice, if it only affected a few shipments before someone at the factory noticed. Most people will never open up their cards after all...

[@BrockGrimes]

I repasted a heavily used 7900xtx with Kryonaut extreme and idle temp dropped 10*, the stock paste had started to get hard. So I highly recommend doing this especially if you're on your computer hours everyday.

[@johannesdatblue4164]

Any issues with thermal pads or is it easy to replace the paste without damaginf them?

[@TheForce_Productions]

​@@johannesdatblue4164Better replace everything.

[@rustler08]

@@johannesdatblue4164I'd replace them while you're in there. Buy some Gelid extremes of the same size, or use thermal putty

[@bradhaines3142]

the level of used means very little, crap to begin with is the real problem. my asrock 6950 is known to be crap out the factory and easy to get 20c improvement out of. these are more of an age issue

[@bradhaines3142]

@@johannesdatblue4164 you can never be sure the pads dont get ruined on disassembly, and theres no real way to prevent it. just depends how they stick. theyre cheap enough you should go ahead and order the CORRECT thicknesses before you tear it down so you can replace them. even if they dont get ruined, that resets the clock when you need to do it again, plus the oem pads are likely shite

[@supersteele2434]

Love this video. Like the throw back to the early years

[@bounzig]

Jay, I'll send you my RX 570 4Gb. It's also about 10 years old and very dirty. Just send me something better in return and it's yours to test :D

[@davidsnidertechandmore1940]

I asked him before he said NO

[@asiatravel2010]

There is something about Phil being happy in your videos that gives me so much joy to listen to.

[@Jdmorris143]

That outro, though! It was epic.

[@markmanderson]

same cooler as the 1080ti the front screws remove the perpex plate allowing you to air duster it. i did this when i last dfismantled it and applied kryonaut to the cooler, made sucha difference to its boost clocks back in the day.

[@m4nc1n1]

It is so nice to see 4M! Congrats!! Still got my 1080 and just did this about 9 months ago.

[@Smokey_MR2]

I needed this today, Jay's humor and Phil's laugh always makes me laugh.

[@Adam-Mei]

So excited, exactly what I am like when describing any kind of tech to anyone I know and them looking at me like I have 3 heads.

[@NonLegitNation2]

I worked at a thrift store a couple years ago and someone donated a 980. I snatched it up (my supervisor gave me permission) and was going to keep it as a backup incase my 2070 Super died on me (i've since upgraded to a 4070 Ti). I ended up giving it away to someone on reddit who's gpu died and they couldn't afford ANY type of gpu. I still need to buy a really cheap GPU to keep as a backup though, just incase.

[@ejakeway]

This came out at a perfect time. I just built an old parts computer for my future step son to play Lethal company. The card I put in was a old GTX 770 my partner had left over. Runs the game just fine but reaches almost 80c with fan at full speed. Gonna pull it apart and clean it all out and reapply thermal paste.

[@TheKalkara131]

Guess before watching the video: Cleaning it up might help a little, but in the grand scheme of how slow it by modern standards, not much. Post video: Pretty much what I thought. Just a clean didn't really give much performance. Still estimated 45fps in battlefield

[@thumbwarriordx]

I ran a blower style 1070 for 5 years. 3 times I had to go in with tweezers and scrape out the fan blades. Once at two years, once at 4 years, once before pawning the old PC off on my nephew. Washed the heatsink out, repasted it. Dude's probably getting better temps than I ever did.

[@Fossillarson]

My nighbor has 1060 😅 the 5600g apu runs all same games 😅

[@thumbwarriordx]

@@Fossillarson Yeah you want that 1080Ti. So much VRAM It's gonna run everything until games cut API support for it.

[@jaz.923]

Hi, Jay. I have a GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce RTX 4090, GV-N4090AORUS M-24GD. I also am using a CableMod 12VHPWR 180 Degree Angled Adapter - Variant B. It has worked perfectly from purchase, but with the recall, I wanted to replace it. I bought a CableMod Basics RT-Series 12VHPWR 90 Degree StealthSense Direct PCI-e Cable. The problem is the new cable doesn't fit in the 12V HPWR socket on the GPU. Something is obstructing the cable fitting from seating and locking in and I get no power. I"m wondering whether you or your vast audience have experienced anything similar. Cablemod told me there is a slight size difference between the two fittings. I may have to deconstruct my entire system to look closely at the GPU socket to see what's in the way, a major overhaul. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks

[@SarraPiyopiyo]

My EVGA 980 would run +250 core +450 Memory. It's not stable anymore, so I have it set to default. It's also plugged into a 1X PCIE slot, because that machine needs a 10GBE NIC more than a graphics card, but it has a Xeon CPU, so I need a GPU for video output. That machine will be retired eventually, I have a 3900XT/VEGA 64 system to replace it, and I might pick up a 6700XT to replace the VEGA 64 eventually... My EVGA 980 idles at 28C, max temps were around 70C, even with a stupid OC on it lol

[@littlec8631]

I still run a 1080ti for mostly maxed 1440p gaming from evga. I do tear it down every now and then and clean and renew it and have had no issues out of it since day one use. It's all about the love and care of the hardware.

[@thealien_ali3382]

I love u

[@Sevicify]

Still running a 1080 Ti myself also at 1440p (and some 4K on TV) since November 2017, mine is a MSI Gaming X. I had only given it a handful of light external cleans over the years, temps started out great in the 60-65C but over time had crept up averaging in the 67-72C range. Last year in February I decided to do a deep clean and re-paste as the temps above 70 were becoming more common and were hurting my boost clocks, used Noctua H1 (all I had on hand) and temps saw a big improvement dropping into the 55-62C range depending on the title.

[@j_t_eklund]

I'm still using that model of card (MSI version). With a 6700K 32GB RAM and 2x nvme drives (one in a pcie2nvme PCB conversion card in a PCIe 4x slot) Custom water-cooling build with som very miss-matched components (Ek block with WISH bought pump, some random mixed fittings) Moded bios, unlocked power 😎 It is my daily driver computer! Upgrade me? 🤪 🌱😁🤧💨

[@Tired_Geek]

So I have an old EVGA GTX 960 SSC 4GB card. Supposedly, the SSC stands for Super Super Clocked, LOL. When I upgraded the rest of my computer as we were under COVID restrictions, I went for the liquid metal option (Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut) on my CPU with an AIO. I had just watched Jay do a re-paste on some newer card, so I thought why not? I blew apart the 960 and cleaned the fins and fans out. They weren't too bad. But on pulling the heat sink, I found the powder formerly known as Nvidia Thermal Paste. After a thorough cleaning of EVERYTHING and applying some nail polish to the electronic bits around the GPU die to keep the liquid metal from potentially shorting something and ending my graphics card, I carefully applied the Conductonaut and put the card back together. I'm still gaming (it's a struggle sometimes) on that card. However, there is a Radeon RX7800XT on the horizon, and I can't wait to get that in my system! Great vid y'all!

[@SebastianWeiss-c8d]

Good old GTX980, it just runs. I bought a RTX 3070 couple months ago (Asus) and it probably lied around for way too long in some storage room, but I had to change the thermal paste almost on the spot. Card was getting ridiculously hot for what it performed. We are talking 105°C Hotspot and a delta of 20°C with just 1775Mhz "Boost". Not happy with that. The repasting helped a lot, but I actually had to undervolt(and overclock) the card as well to get a satisfying performance out of it. ( 1.06V @1775Mhz to 0.9V @1920Mhz ) Guess a 2-Fan cooler Design is too weak for a 3070 haha. While it was annoying, it sure was a fun experience to do all of that to the card.

[@ruikazane5123]

Curious how would the PTM stuff would do. I'm thinking of using some of that stuff on this laptop (Dell Precision 7510) with the now BIOS modded Quadro M2000M. HWInfo says two rails at 60 watts (!?) and reaches 90 degrees C in FurMark, no power, temp or volt limits somehow. Core clock at 1215 MHz, 200 MHz from stock. Paste is Arctic MX-4 because the local stores don't have much else. And the CPU started to throttle after a month or so...

[@novocainDaimon]

I've owned a MSI GTX 980 which came with factory overclock to ~1400 MHz and only with repaste that beauty ran 1500 MHz. I've sold it along with my 4790K and it's still alive. For shits n giggles I've overclocked it to 1675 MHz once - those Maxwell 2.0 cards ran like hell and were sturdy af...

[@shawnmurray7232]

For proper comparison, shouldn't the fans be set at a fixed fan speed, thus eliminating variations in fan speed as a potential factor??? By leaving the fans alone, a hotter card will spin the fans faster providing better airflow & cooling, while a cooler card will spin the fans slower providing reduced airflow & cooling. This is why I always do before & after testing with fans at 100% speed, whether it's on CPU, GPU, AIO water cooler, etc.... Also why I only use 1 specific fan (Noctua Industrial NF-A14 iPPC 140mm or NF-F12 iPPC 120mm depending on what size fits) & not the fans that come with heatsinks, AIO's, etc... Such consistency is also the ONLY thing I like about the Thermal Grizzly KryoSheet... Eliminates thermal paste application disparity.

[@steveo13987]

i had to look up my old rig to see how it compared. From 2014 SCORE 11 281 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980(1x) and Intel Core i7-2600K Processor Graphics Score 13576 Physics Score 10886 Combined Score 5098

[@killerja3]

I just bout a Intel I5 14500 cause it was $5 away from the lower one at the time ($240 vs $235). will that last me, say, 4 years? My 1st build, from 2017 with an i3-7100 works fine as long as I dont push it although I do plan to start trying new stuff. Still gotta figure out what GPU to get at $200 or so but ill use my GTX 1060 6gb for now but I would like to know which I should think about. I got 32gb (2x16) ddr5 ram 64000mhz. Not worried about getting a new cpu or motherboard for a while so I dont care about intel gen 15 as far as getting one anytime soon. Thoughts on best budget GPU? Either Nevida cause I like their software as thats my gpu now or AMD if it is just that much better cause Im building this new pc next weekend and putting current pc in the back room and will put my 1060 back in it when I can get a new*(2nd) one.

[@andrewwright1200]

Hmm, my GTX960 scored 2004 vs your 12594... Edit: aahh, changed to Firestrike and got 7108, Graphics 7549, Physics 42544, combined 2645

[@cytrane]

In 2019-2021 I ran a used GTX 780 with that same design as the 980. Open air on an eGpu setup with a Lenovo T430. The 780 sucked up a moth one night (and it didn’t stop running?!) Streaky dusty moth juice all down those fins 🤢. After multiple attempts to clean, the card properly died about 2 months later.

[@sopcannon]

I got 35719, gpu score 43980,physics 28905 and combined 17381 on fire strike. Using RTX 4070, r7 5800x3d and 32gb @3600 ram, for comparison.

[@MetaphysicalEngineer]

From barely surviving base clocks to significant OC headroom! Imagine that inside a case instead of free air.... card would have been cooking!

[@lfla0179]

I remember re-pasting a Pentium II (that's a two), 400MHz. I was going to donate it to charity and it was cooking at 72C (# prochot, remember?). Took the heatsink it out of the cartridge, cleaned the tiny fan, re-pasted it, and it never felt even hot to the touch, just warm. Installed Ubuntu just to prove it boots, and let it go. The paste was PAST dry-lake bed, all wrinkled and flaky, it was just white dust. Amazing it booted at all.

[@romel420]

Commenting before watching full video to answer his first question of whether or not cleaning an old graphics card can uplift some of the performance, based purely on my findings. Yes, yes it can. My GTX 1080 FE from 2016 was starting to give me random BSOD even when doing simple things like watching videos on KZbin and Netflix, forget about long gaming sessions, it would crash after just a few minutes. I figured it's a new year, 2024, and time to upgrade my system so I start a new build. Since I was starting from scratch, I said screw it, I'm going to open up the 1080 and see if I can salvage the card, and if I can, I will donate my old PC to a friend who didn't even have a PC. Sure enough, opening up the casing revealed massive buildup on the heatsink and fan. When I removed the heatsink from the GPU itself, jeezuz...the old paste had turned into a solid clay pancake that crumbled and turned to dust all over my desk, clothes, and the PCB. Blew out all the dust, cleaned off the old paste and its remnants, and applied some new paste and put it back together. Slapped her back into the system and voila! No more random BSOD and I could play games without crashing now. I never ran any type of benchmarking or monitoring software, so I didn't know that the GPU was overheating and causing the BSOD. That's my theory anyway, since after applying the new paste, everything was back to normal. I wish I had checked temps beforehand, but oh well. Now, back to the video.

[@riddickchappell]

want to repaste my 2070 super which was hitting 105c before i got an upgrade to a 4070ti (going to my son when sorted) but can't find a specific tear down guide for it, it is the Gigabyte RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING OC 3X 8G, any help appreciated

[@aaronjones4529]

😯 You didn't replace the thermal pads too!.. Shame on you!... (to be fair they looked surprisingly flexible, squishy, and not falling apart for a 9 year old GPU, but I ALWAYS replace the pads too, because they do tend to denature, especially if run at the high temperatures of the more modern GDDR6 plus)

[@Lurch-Bot]

I've tested plenty of older GPUs but never with a CPU more powerful than a Ryzen 2600. Those Fire Strike numbers were hilarious. I bought a used R9 280 in 2019 and the finstack was packed full of lint and cat hair. I cleaned it out and changed the paste and pads but it was already too late. It would run a game and didn't artifact but it was giving microstutters and a way too low framerate. Benchmark testing confirmed it was severely underperforming. It would be fun to see what you could do with this 980 with an Arctic aftermarket air cooler. I will only use MX-4 or NT-H1 on a GPU die because I have seen direct evidence that they hold up well under continuous operation over the course of a couple of years. I tried some FuzeIce recently on my CPU and wasn't terribly impressed with it so I'll be going back to Noctua. I'm sure FuzeIce works a lot better on an intel CPU that runs at 95C but the free TF-4 paste that came with my cooler performed better on my Ryzen where I want to see temps below 60C under stress testing. 71C is pretty good on a blower card, even being on a test bench.

[@Akaya3511]

The answer IMO is use PTM instead of thermal paste. Helped my 7900xtx by almost 20c because of pump out. Also lasts for almost length of your card. In internal testing they went from i think -25 to +150c 1000 times or more. After all that the temps actually got better. IMO PTM or nothing moving forward.

[@echtsilver]

I bought a used Msi RTX 3070 Suprim X and the fans regularly flew at 100% even though I had my own curve set. The temperatures looked good except for the Hot spot, which went over 80 degrees Celsius. After replacing the old cooling paste, with the MX-6 paste is like new. The hot spot does not go above 75 degrees, and gpu temperatures go down about 10 degree. The fan curve in the MSI burner holds.

[@MrRollmoreBlunts]

i repasted my 2080 Super a few months ago because it always was going into failsafe mode when firing up a game since the hotspot climbed to 105°C(average overall temperature 75°C) (all fans were 100% cranked up due to failsafe protection). Now i can run FurMark for hours and the hotspot won't climb higher than 79°C while my average is like 60°C Definetely was worth it.

[@TheZoenGaming]

I recently "repasted" my Gigabyte RTX 2080 Gaming OC with a Kryosheet. It dropped the peak temps by about 22°C while increasing the score by @5%. Thermal Grizzly has made an amazing product considering I won't need to "repaste" that card again. I can't wait to use it in my open loop.

[@MrSecurity.]

Man, I remember when my friend just gave me his 980 because he had two of them. It was still a new card. The 1080 hadn't even come out yet. And let me tell you this. I was rocking a PNY 650 and trying to play Ghost recon Wildlands onot and that was abysmal. My other friend loaned me his MSI 760 for about a month which really improved my graphics but as soon as my friend gave me that 980. Wow. I loved that card. And then I bought a 1080 a year later and then like a 4090 like 3 months ago.

[@simonhaugenkolstad8561]

I have done repaste on a couple 1060 laptopd with 6700k. They all went up like 4k points in firestrike, after. But i think thats mostly due to the cpu throttling. Still hit 90 c° with repaste and cooling pad under laptop😂 Did my gtx 770ti aswell. 2 times. Went up a couple thousand and dropped 15 c°

[@mrbrown6421]

I wonder if breathing all that stuff can affect... ahhhh...never mind. I clean my computers outside with 90 PSI. Country living has its benefits.

[@kamihebi6570]

I never understood why people use a blower to clean a computer, I prefer a vacuum less things flying around in the air after.

[@rodturner6759]

No one vacuums because it can cause static electricity, especially if you use a vacuum device with a brush on it.

[@LArmor6S]

@@rodturner6759 I always vacuum. But I'm in Scotland with ridiculous humidity, so static isn't really an issue, unless it's in the 10 days of summer we get. If I was in the US, I'd still use one, but i'd mod it with foil at the end,with a grounding wire connected to it, to give the static a path to dissipate.

[@mindblah]

The vacuum doesn't seem to reach as far, so you end up dragging the nozzle around your board. Doing so around the components risk some damage. Not a large risk, but it also takes more time because of the smaller area of cleaning. One other thing I've heard others have encountered is vacuuming a component off the board, but I would think a high pressure air stream could do that as well but it's what I've heard in the past. I'm in agreement with you that it would otherwise be much preferable and cleaner way to capture the dust and dirt. I've often wondered (though never attempted) if using one of those ultrasonic cleaners in a rubbing alcohol bath would work well.... maybe a little overkill though. :)

[@rodturner6759]

Also, take your rig outside :)

[@marsaustralis6881]

@@rodturner6759 There are vacuums designed specifically for use on electronics. The issue is that they cost more than a regular home vacuum, while an ESD-safe blower for electronics costs less.

[@Blackraven6]

Just sharing my experience with 440GT - it's cooler was so old, that it wasn't cooling the card at all. I've checked if it spins - and it was! But after I decided to repaste it I've noticed that the blade was basically rigid. So not only it managed to spin masking the issue of low cooling performance - it was most likely heating it up even more just because of spin resistance.

[@micahbell3119]

So Jay. Fan Curves. When I had my 2070 and ANY other card where you could adjust with afterburner my fan curve is basically 0-100, if the card is at 30c the fans are 30%. I would love to see you test out your viewers fan curves? Maybe? Take like 10 user suggested and see which is best?

[@btb6011]

Unfortunately I'm STILL running a EVGA 980 card I bought when it was released in Sept 2014. I'd build a new system if I could get a new card at a reasonable price.

[@brandonzanzig3200]

I purchased an asrock phantom 7900xtx and would get crashes if i tried to overclock it. Factory settings in 4k at 99% was pushing 100C. I decided to say F it and check the thermal paste. It was one of the worst paste jobs ive ever seen. The paste was everywhere and the coverage on the die was terrible. I put some MX-6 on it and now it can overclock with +15% power and only hits 88C. Ive been struggling with this thing for months thinking the die was junk. All i had to do was void the warranty to fix it. The QC of these companies these days is astonishing.

[@erikrobertson4885]

I had 2 of the gtx980's in SLI, glad to see one opened up and cleaned. I upgraded to the RTX 3060 because of power draw and the heat that my system was getting in general. I still have the GTX 980's for relics sake. One is being used till this day on my dads living room PC for theatre purposes.

[@felixkremer7773]

The 980 came out in the time I really started getting into pc gaming. Always gamed on pc since I was young but around 2014 I wanted my own pc. I would binge watch multiple build views from different channels and that’s how I learned how to build a PC. Eventually bought my cousins old rig very cheap in 2019 and the only parts left from that pc are the cpu, ram and motherboard. All the rest either broke or got replaced.

[@bealight5141]

My 2080ti OC edition Strix card came with the tiniest dried booger of thermal paste on the die. Thermal throttling out of the box but wouldnt have known without HWMonitor (thanks J) because the hotspot was gpu memory, and core temp was normal. All the programs that only show the core temp (like my AIO cooler software) were useless.

[@OmegaSimPilot]

About a year before I replaced my EVGA 1070 with a new EVGA 3070 in 2022, I re-did the thermal paste and such on the 1070...its was beyond dried out and "clay" like

[@pidmon6126]

I got myself a used Nitro+ RX570 and its temps hits 70°C fans ramps up up to 2k+ rpm when in a game until I decided to change its thermal paste. Now, when temps hits 70¯C fans just runs at 900 rpm sometimes max at 1.3k. 😂

[@maxchristianpota779]

Just this weekend I sold my 1080ti and I remounted the stock nvidia cooler, which is the same as on the 980 in principle. I did a quick test with furmark, to check if I messed up. And I noticed how quiet these cards where. 79°C and so quiet, compared the 7900 XTX 310 Merc I have now.

[@loadnabox1943]

How often would you recommend replacing the thermal paste? Obviously a 10 year old card is going to need it, but how about my 3yo 3080ti? Gaming is my primary use of the card (putzing around with AI and such accounts for probably less than 1% of its usage), so temps fluctuate a lot, which is supposed to be harder on the thermals

[@Nickeles020]

Cleaned, repasted, and gave my old Strix 1060 new pads a while ago and got better performance than new. 15337 Graphics with FireStrike.

[@es-br8ck]

Find a tool that can apply instant, constant 100% loads to either one core or all of them. Prime95 for CPU, any CUDA miner or something for the GPU. Shut down everything else to not interfere. Have a tool that can monitor the wattage going in. Multi core first. If under 100 load, the cores develop differences of more than 5 degrees, paste is bad. (If that persists after repasting, it might be bad paste application or the cooler is warped or the CPU has defects). If the temp across cores remain similar, all is well with the thermal interface. If temps go up too high for sustained loads, but the grouping stays close, the heatsink and fan can't eventually dissipate the heat. Usually fan is clogged or otherwise airflow restricted. Laptops pulling in air from below are especially prone to this. Cleaning the heatsinks is always a priority Remove airflow restrictions, raise the laptop's back feet with the edge of 2 books or such and see if it improves.

[@CrashPilot1000]

That thing (incl a little OC) still runs BF 2042 with potato modding and dofmethod_none on every start, it looks like puke but still 80+ FPS all day long...

[@Mike__B]

3:14 I mean 45+fps at 1440 ultra isn't really that bad to be fair, just stay in your lane, don't have "ultra" expectations, and maybe even drop to 1080 if that's the native res of your monitor and you are doing some decent gaming on that 11 year old card. Not every game is CyberPunk 4k HDR level of demand, thankful.

[@C-M-E]

You need a card gooped up naturally but expediently? Send one my way, I can get it back to you in a month with it out in my workshop/office. I routinely need to clean mine with compressed air, otherwise the GPU will idle at 45*C from accumulation (usually my cue that it's due!). Such is the life of a card that shares space with machines and equipment notorious for making a mess!

[@theElemDragon]

"Oh my god, the GPU just went into "Save Myself Mode"" That the modern day equivalent to the sense pins being nudged on a 40-series card and the screen turning black and fans pegged at 100%? haha

[@jaredkleinman4008]

Northwest Repair if they got this card: fully disassemble & clean, replace all pads, reball to some cool tunes. GPU outperforms a 3050 6GB. ;)

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

The cleaned 980 gets about what my Strix OC 980 gets on a Xeon x5675. In a system with no bottleneck it gets above 14,000.

[@WouterVerbruggen]

For a 10 year old card that's quite clean lol. Ones from dusty homes and cases without any filtering are much, much worse. Btw when blowing out a finstack you should blow from the back. Especially when there's fibrous material in there (hairs and stuff, also tiny hair that everyone loses) they'll just get more stuck when blowing from the front.

[@golasticus]

Is it really ok to not replace the thermal pads after a full GPU disassembly? I'm considering cleaning and repasting the used 3080 I got last year but I'm honestly put off by the idea of having to replace the thermal pads (figuring out correct sizes, thickness, getting good thermal pads, etc.) so I just let it be. It's working fine so far but I'm genuinely curious if I could get away with getting it cleaned then repasting without replacing the thermal pads for hopefully better performance as well as maintenance for longevity since it's used.

[@yonislav_9821]

theyre is a huge difference on the notebooks. after thermal change and undervolt, the cpu's finally can bump on 100% unlimited,without throttle. the lows % changed drasticly, if not the fps boost. even if its brand new, if it came with bad thermal paste, this is a 2 years of bottlenecking ,crazy to think