This Was Unbelievable! || 2024 Lumberjack Challenge Men's Mile

[@andrewkatz6649]

Joe Klecker and Olli Hoare also have sub 4 indoor altitude marks of 3:56.8 and 3:58.4 respectively in Boulder, Colorado.

[@sorencarlson6236]

Flagstaff is also 1200 feet higher than Boulder

[@veganpotterthevegan]

And? Altitude relative to time is the topic

[@andrewkatz6649]

@@veganpotterthevegan Without question, Nico's performance is relatively more impressive. I merely was pointing out that Klecker and Hoare were missing from the list he showed of sub-4 altitude performers.

[@mustardseedsociety]

@@andrewkatz6649 Thanks for pointing that out andrew. Quite frankly, before this video, I thought no human had ever run a sub 4 mile in the State of Colorado. So am I to assume that Klecker is the fastest miler ever in Colorado ?? But, to backtrack just slightly, as I was watching this video, I blurted out in my mind, "Nico has just run the best ever high elevation mile". - On a sidenote, I HATE when people say "at altitude" because it has no meaning. If you're 5 feet above sea level, you're "at altitude". LOL. The other thing we should also consider, is density altitude which is "altitude" corrected for non standard temperature. As an example if you're in Denver elevation 5280 and it's a hot day, the density altitude probably will be perhaps 8000 feet.

[@davidanderson6817]

Aidan Troutner also ran sub four with the time of 3.59.2 at the BYU indoor track just last week. BYU does sit at 4,500 feet in elevation, which is a lot lower than flagstaff.

[@iRunfastXC]

Both are oversized tracks, which is interesting. NAU's is 300m and turns are are softer and smoother than BYU, but unbanked. BYU's track is 321.8m, straights are long, but turns are asymetrical, with one being slightly (and I mean barely) banked, but smooth, and the other basically being two 90º angles with a tiny bank to them. It can also get pretty dusty and HOT in there, so respiration can be an issue. I'd say it's much easier to get in a rhythm at NAU's track, and it's overall an easier place to run fast, but BYU's has its advantages, namely the longish straightaways and its altitude. Regardless, BOTH are much easier to run fast on than an unbanked 200m track.

[@markalexander-warne3807]

As a life-long runner, I moved to Flagstaff for grad school. I was in good shape then, but it was really hard to breathe in the first few weeks of running! Beautiful place and university!

[@FinnyFinnFinn96]

did you go to NAU for grad school? I’ve been looking into high altitude grad schools for similar reasons, I’d like to study and live at altitude for a while

[@Zephyr653]

Let’s Go Team Newbury Park!!!! Kudos to Nico and Colin. I think both are best suited for the 3000 and 5000.

[@saedgriffey4738]

Letsss goo!! Been waiting for this video all day. Appreciate it man. 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@ArturoTierra]

Maybe Nico should focus on the 1500m and mile events. In the longer distances he's usually out fast but fades later in the race. I don't know if this is a matter of conditioning or if he's a natural miler like Josh Kerr or Jake Wightman. All the same, I think he should focus on the mile, the 1500m and perhaps the odd 800m as well.

[@mustardseedsociety]

Probably a valid point - this video was a bright spot in my day because breaking the 4 minute mile at a high elevation is quite an amazing feat. Frankly I think the NCAA conversion tables are flawed. What would be so cool if it were possible, is Nico get maybe 7 or 8 days of rest and run the same exact effort in a mile indoor race at or near sea level and whatever his time is, you can come up with more accurate conversion tables. Also comparing indoor to indoor would be fantastic in creating new conversion tables because the indoor temperatures are probably very close. That is important because what the NCAA conversion tables don't factor in is DENSITY ALTITUDE. Density altitude being corrected altitude for non standard temperature.

[@Rayhan-fj7es]

Think it’s about time Rhasidat Adeleke deserves her own video too

[@Davbaldwin1]

You will have to add Aidan Troutner from BYU to that list of athletes breaking the 4 minute mile at altitude a few weeks ago.

[@thedailystride5407]

Damn. That’s 3:49 converted 🤯🤯🤯

[@runninggirl2765]

Did I see Brody Hasty at 6:33? Wondered where he went.

[@gainzcreed6613]

Ya I just ran the 200m over there unattached last week and was gassed!!

[@kingpotato1683]

Are you planning on covering the 2024 usatf cross country finals? I’m a big Allie O fan so seeing her come in 4th was awesome!

[@mustardseedsociety]

When and where was that ?? I'm curious because in 2018 I drove to Tallahassee for to watch Rupp and company in the USAT & F XC championship and I kid you not, I met Alberto Salazar and actually had a long conversation with him HA !! That was just before he got banned. The ONLY reason we were able to talk is because I'm a friend with a personal friend of his. But Alberto seemed like a very nice guy to me, certainly not the devil the media made him out to be.

[@luispalacios7412]

I understand that running at high elevation is significantly harder but 8 secs in one mile seems little too much. It is definitely more challenging long distance races like 5k and above. But 1 mile maybe just few secs. I mean these guys live and train at high elevation they are used to elevation too also don’t forget about that kind of bounce tracks are likely faster than outdoor tracks and zero wind. Yes it is a fantastic time but I wouldn’t call it 3:49 equivalent.

[@davidpadilla6095]

Loved the vid man

[@stevelafler]

Nice run by Nico! But let's not forget, he is racing in super shoes, meanwhile Kip Keino ran 3:53 outdoors on a dirt track at similar altitude in 1966.

[@jonasf4065]

and who cares about kip keeno?

[@ccbgaming6994]

@jonasf4065 A lot of people, especially if he ran that fast lol

[@bballbryson2015]

@@jonasf4065Ever heard of the Kip Keino classic?

[@wilhelmw3455]

Kipchoge ‘Kip’ keino won Olympic golds at 1500m in 1968 and 3000m steeplechase in 1972 in addition many achievements too numerous to mention, if Nico Young can achieve half of that he’s done very well I wish him luck.

[@jonasf4065]

@@ccbgaming6994 Lol. Just checked that loser. Has a near 3:35 1500 PB. Please. Dont even bring that name up again.

[@liamfinnegan8085]

Love Flagstaff and what has done for my fitness!

[@christiansantana4869]

My sweet glorious king Nico will win an NCAA title this season 🐐

[@edwardbroadnaxjr2592]

That’s freaking amazing! I’m a little heavier now. My fastest mile was 4:58 for 9:49 2 mile run. I must have slowed a bit on the end… Being young is where it’s at now. Run strong gents!

[@No_One1_Special]

Why are you telling us this? No one here cares about you or knows you. Make the comments about the athletes in the video, not yourself. Smh

[@edwardbroadnaxjr2592]

@@No_One1_Special the great thing about KZbin is you can choose to read or not read what ever you like…

[@liberty5069]

@@No_One1_Special Hey, dude, chill a little.

[@chrisdidonna7371]

​@@No_One1_Specialhe can say what he wants 🤡🤡🤡

[@chrisdidonna7371]

​@@No_One1_Special🤡🤡🤡

[@19Kamau79]

First of all Reinhold Messner climbed Everest solo back in 1980 monsoon season without supplemental oxygen, that alone teach us altitude does affect us all differently, indoor altitude mile isn't converting well for sea level outdoor mile as hilly StanChart Nairobi Marathon have great local altitude runners on the line and I was closely watching 2.11:×× winner beating group of six at final stretch, when Kipchoge or Bekele or Cheptegei have off day the struggle to sub2.10 at 'easy' course of Boston, Valencia etc.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

Great race!

[@emmanuelpaddyfote8179]

Carson Williams of Furman dropped a leading NCAA time of 3:55 earlier today at UofSouthCarolina

[@iRunfastXC]

Nico Young, Aidan Troutner, Habtom Samuel, Colin Sahlman, and Theo Quax's marks are faster.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

He knows Nico is faster

[@iRunfastXC]

@@veganpotterthevegan I think we ALL know that 😂😂

[@veganpotterthevegan]

@@iRunfastXC Emmanual seems to not

[@peterhamilton7487]

The altitude conversion needs to be taken with more than a grain of salt, I suggest a whole mine

[@lukaskonradsson8308]

I ran there. He was crazy

[@xoOoViRuSoOox]

It’s a shame ches went up in distance, wish he would have stayed mile/5k just an absolute monster. Really excited to see how Nico and Colin compete the rest of the season. Haven’t seen much from Lex or Leo yet, feel like they will be doing something eventually

[@bearsmartdurango]

I'll see if the full race is on somewhere else.

[@quixotix9540]

yall dont click on that crypto religious comment its bait

[@shrankai7285]

Yeah, I’m surprised how long that went. 36 total comments

[@arogueburrito]

​@@shrankai7285all the comments are bots except the last two

[@ccbgaming6994]

Wdym I clicked it and was instantly satisfied

[@arogueburrito]

@@ccbgaming6994 it was pretty satisfying to see how dumb these scammers are

[@perfectlypreservedpie]

Yeah Scientology cult

[@GusSeifferlein]

what shoe was Nico wearing

[@CryptoGrady]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@torunit4620]

Theo Quax (NZL) is the son of Olympic 5000 silver medalist Theo "Dick" Quax.

[@AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH]

Literally actively dying

[@tmedocianis]

You cant "ascend" to your previous location unless you've already been there?

[@General1Cal]

Albuquerque is polluted as hell also.

[@jordiescoda7904]

You are completely wrong in your assessment of the chronometric loss. Indeed at the 1968 Olympics, Jime Ryun ran in 3'37"8 over 1,500m while his world record was 3'33"1. This at an altitude of 2200m. We therefore find a difference of 4" 7. For the mile this makes approximately 5". Conclusion a performance of around 3'57"3 therefore corresponds to approximately 3' 52"3 and not 3'49" I wish you a good day.

[@HunterThinker]

He wants to go to Paris

[@robinbauer1975]

The guy is like older than Ingebrigtsen and Barega

[@scottbarker9058]

okay..1-mile above sea level is..5,280 feet i beleive...

[@chrispoluikis1721]

Flat track as well? Jeeeesh.

[@chrispoluikis1721]

Oh, oversized.

[@TomP-148]

I'm so shocked

[@McClarinJ]

I live at 2117 meters.

[@kenisme1000]

Are we going to talk about Shawn Barber…guess not…

[@Leeroy49]

8848 is the old number for everest

[@longextinct]

Bro is there nowhere I can just watch the full uncut race why is everywhere I go just a bunch of slow-mo edits

[@lukebarreto2597]

wth happened to ches bruh

[@lorenzoquirante8685]

No consistent training partners I’d say

[@marlinweekley51]

Don’t these guys train at altitude? NAU is in Flag after all.

[@zabaleta66]

Theo Quax......any relation to Dick Quax?

[@danielhanna2741]

yep

[@TFNews441]

😮🔥

[@aarondavidson907]

Imagine using someone else's footage to generate a profit but declining to compensate them for sending you the raw footage.

[@antflynn7]

Is that true? I mean this guy is heavy on clickbait and sensationalism but I thought he normally gives credit or asks permission

[@aarondavidson907]

@@antflynn7yup. He gave credit here but declined a request for compensation for the footage

[@GeorgeLepska]

make a vid on the 1k

[@0x0oxo]

What a lot of noise, "This was Unbelievable".... egging the pudding somewhat... Converted, this is conjecture, it's not a gimme.

[@nvan78]

Shocks the world? Good grief man.

[@wilhelmw3455]

This will give Jakob Ingebrigtsen sleepless nights LOL.

[@nvan78]

@@wilhelmw3455 good one!

[@thedailystride5407]

This is the 2nd fastest altitude mile ever run. Yes shocks the world fits quite well actually

[@nathanenns]

Just making sure you understand it is 7000ft not 7000m. I know you said this but you’re level of excitement suggests that you don’t understand. 🙄

[@ccbgaming6994]

Obviously he understands

[@scottbarker9058]

the vast majority of urr subscribers wood not want...yup-METERS!!!!

[@ZATHURAKEY]

He needs to turn pro immediately !

[@benanastasoff8980]

British Columbia Colombia “O” vs. “U” It’s not that hard

[@jonahmays]

Ok

[@douglasspencer9819]

cmon man. I've trained at 7500 ft and acclimated just fine to the point I was running close to 4 min mile. Not taking anything away from the runners, but its not that amazing.

[@liberty5069]

What did you run at or close to sea level?

[@josedelnegro46]

What you illustrate is what happens when we concentrate on Personal Best and not world records. If you are on the India Chinese border this episode is of great interest to you if you are a member of their military industrial complex. If we lived in perfect uniform conditions World Records would be more important than Personal Bests. So I will not take this results with a grain of salt.

[@RandomRunner69]

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[@RandomRunner69]

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