Apple is RUINING the iPhone

[@officiallyunofficial4K]

I agree that a foldable Apple anything is 2-3 years off. My question is how much further along will Samsung and other companies that have foldables be by the time Apple releases their first generation foldable phone (which I full expect to be at least $2500 starting price).

[@kgoodfarms]

They'll be leaps and bounds ahead, but that's never stopped apple from spouting about old technology as new, and apple people eat it up and happily pay the price

[@IceBlueLugia]

⁠@@kgoodfarmsLOL name a single VR headset that comes close to the Vision Pro with eye tracking. Just because they don’t jump on every random new trend doesn’t mean they aren’t the most innovative out there

[@DJ_Darkstar]

​@@IceBlueLugiaVision Pro is obviously an expensive experimental toy with a terrible battery life . Samsung and all the other folding phone manufacturers will dominate the market anyway as they already do. Let's not forget that Apple buys screens from LG and Samsung

[@IceBlueLugia]

@@DJ_Darkstar Did you just call the first spatial computing device ever with many features never seen before a toy?

[@DJ_Darkstar]

@@IceBlueLugia yes .. yes I did. Here why. It's still half baked. It's a VR/AR with terrible battery life. It's experimental at best. It released too early... and considering everyone thinks that "Apple only releases things when it's perfect" they apparently dropped the ball on this one. There's so many more practical alternatives. Oculus, HTC, Meta... And where's the real demand for this stuff? Folding phones are more practical and downright impressive IMO

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

I want them to build me a phone that starts at half size, rolls out to full size, rolls out more to tablet size, and then rolls out further to a laptop, and rolls out even more to a desktop. The true all-in-one experience.

[@Oystein87]

Wrong, Austin.. Samsung's ultra thin glass is sandwitched between the plastic outer layer and the screen. So what you feel is the plastic layer and not the glass...

[@bestechYtBotBH]

That's a miracle. This is the first time Matt isn't stoked and jolly at the intro 😮

[@jakebonnett1675]

Remember when Apple sued Samsung because their phones had round corners? I think Samsung needs to sue Apple if they release a folding phone because it's too much like their phones.

[@Monique-iz8lp]

I still fail to see any sort of benefit of the z-flip form factor. You pay flagship price for sub-flagship specs and worse battery life, only to get a phone that will be junk in a year or two, with no upsides what so ever.

[@n0lat]

Having it folded may be thicker but it's much smaller an nicer to carry in your pockets, especially if ypu have jacket or shirt pockets, the cover screen is mkre useful than I thought it woukd be and it's nice to use it while walking as it's easy and really comfortable to hold, the battery life last me more than my s22 and the efficiency is pretty good, not great but it get me through the day with fairly heavy use, and the snapdragon gen 2 is really good not sub par at all and the ram is good enough, the cameras are also good for most people, the screen is worrying for sure and hopefully with a screen protector and case it'll last, but it has greatly improved and by the 7 proabably won't be an issue

[@ColtonKiefer]

Exactly. I use the same iPhone for several years and when I go to get a new one my current one having a case & screen protector since day one is able to be traded in for a decent value and used toward it. With one of these folding phones the screen is definitely getting scratched and the hinge is definitely going to get worn and that coupled with them not being mainstream I don’t see it holding value. I’d probably need to purchase a new folding phone at full retail price every couple years and that’s not something I’d ever do.

[@vinnichi]

Samsung has proven there to be a market for that novelty factor such as Apple. I don’t need a foldable phone or headset but that temptation is lingering. While this is potentially distracting us from the next big piece of technology we all will learn to live with. Apple Vision Pro contact lenses meets non-evasive neuralink = sold 🤷‍♂️

[@kevinkev1530]

​@@ColtonKiefer in sure uv never even had one, anyone tht upgrades to the same iPhone over an over knowing it's the same product is slow

[@ColtonKiefer]

@@kevinkev1530 no I’ve never had a folding phone, but I know the screens scratch really easily and I’m not sure if the hinges are designed to last at least a few years. I feel like a lot of the people that are buying them upgrade as soon as something new comes out so it’s irrelevant to them.

[@aus87185]

I'm intrigued to see where this all goes. Also, the idea of a cell phone 'power user' is hilarious haha. "Wait till you see how I. . . text. And. . . scroll Instagram. Really advanced stuff!"

[@plasticsoldier234]

Mobile games, cloud games, video calls, recording video, editing video, tons of ways to be a power user on a phone

[@aus87185]

@@plasticsoldier234 aside from video editing though, these things are just regular uses for a phone.

[@xodditiesx4855]

Austin is actually the reason I finally made the switch to Samsung / Android. For the first time in my life I don't have a single apple device. It's been a week so far and I love my Z Flip. The fact that it's a square when closed is soooo satisfying to me lol.

[@beni2cc]

@@ProfileRacing89what are y9u on about

[@samenjaimy]

​@inhale27 calm down and stop simping for Apple. If Apple released the Z Flip and Samsung didn't, you probably would be praising Apple for innovation

[@BigBob-p9d]

You don’t leep your phone in your back pocket

[@agent57]

​@@ProfileRacing89you seem really mad about a random opinion in these here comments. 😆

[@IceYetiWins]

​@@ProfileRacing89"inferior software" looooooool

[@barrylecount]

As an older person I like the idea of having an iPhone that will open to the size of a small iPad it would make seeing my screen easier

[@frostbite3820]

As someone with a pixel fold with a lot of older folks around me, can confirm you will be happy with a form factor like this

[@DJ_Darkstar]

The OnePlus Open is literally what you just described. Form, size and weight of an iPhone 14 Pro but opens to iPad mini size and has amazing Hasselblad cameras

[@barrylecount]

This feature is making me think about giving up my iPhone for the first time

[@TheLinkhawkins]

Duo 2 is still my absolute favorite form factor for a form out there. There have been software issues for sure but I still love the thing.

[@Montpbm7]

Yep, agreed, and it's better than anything Apple made phone wise.

[@unkown34x33]

That would make me buy a folding phone! Coz the hanging... Is not destroying the screen

[@spaceburrito215]

It's weird that people might be surprised by this. Apple is definitely going to work on a foldable. The bigger question is how will they implement it in the most expensive way possible?

[@unkown34x33]

My bet was 6k.... They can go higher

[@FloridaManRacer]

I think we have the tech to make a thinner flip phone currently. They could make the chassis out of carbon fiber instead of aluminum and that would reduce it quite a lot. The problem is they have to hit a certain price point goal and they won't hit it currently with what it costs to make carbon fiber. It's the cost of the technology more than the actual availability imo...

[@NightFoxZero]

The technology required to make folding phones more durable is something I've always thought about and thats having the main display parts be full regular glass and have the folding "glass" be at the folding part. Finding a way to bond these separate materials is what'll ultimately change the game

[@DJ_Darkstar]

Folding phones are tougher than you think. The OnePlus Open is probably the most durable phone on the planet especially with the rigorous testing it does. It's rated for 1 million folds.

[@NightFoxZero]

@@DJ_DarkstarFolding phones can't survive pushing a fingernail down on the screen with a moderate amount of pressure lol

[@DJ_Darkstar]

@@NightFoxZero why would anyone feel the need to press a fingernail into a folding screen? Who's that abusive to electronics? However the same folding screen can handle a stylus. I admit that once I noticed slight impressions on my inner display I returned to grooming my fingers and the display itself is undamaged .... Like I said they're pretty durable now.

[@DJ_Darkstar]

@@NightFoxZero as long as I can game (PUBG, CODM) just as well on it as I do my 12" tablet, I no longer have to carry a phone and a tablet with me. Multitasking and power usage is fantastic. No need to edit video on a computer when I can do it from anywhere.

[@UbiMortus]

​@@DJ_Darkstarit can happen by mistake, and if is an issue on folding / flipping phones then regular phones are better already.

[@DjFusion86]

I don’t care about thickness, I would buy a foldable iPhone even if was as thick as the Z flip. The problem I have with folding phones is the screen durability. After using it for 2 years I give my phones to my kids, the screen needs to be very durable

[@NightFoxZero]

I got my Moto Razr on a promotion at Metro for only $100. Have been loving it. Durability of the screen is still my biggest concern but for $100 to $300 which is the other price point it's typically on sale for, it's super easy to take a chance on. The ONLY thing I've disliked about this phone in the months I've had it is the camera is pretty slow to take a picture because it does a lot of software processing. The pictures come out incredible looking but you really gotta hold it still for like 3 seconds to get the actual shot

[@lovisla]

Apple is locked tight - I do not think they make the best of whatever category they are in HOWEVER they make the most usable (simplest) for consumers = it just works. Samsung makes a good product but they also make some explodable phones they have quality issues. For the record I have an iphone 11 now - just not needing the upgrades or new features.

[@agent57]

IDK man I appreciate people not wanting a chonker of a phone, but I feel like Apple put "thin as possible" and "monitor specs" on a board and have just absolutely left other aspects of user experience behind. Maybe I'm biased cause I'm still mostly using their laptops? I feel like aside from screen and whatever their latest chip of the moment is, their build quality has gone downhill. Them still being the best is a myth we're still clinging to.

[@agent57]

Like, I'm tired of losing usability (ie physical ports) just so they can shave a millimeter off their specs.

[@martinseal1987]

👍

[@HibariSama]

Watching you both just talk about things you like is really fun

[@wizery5656]

Apple should just go out of business garbage products anyway

[@BaldwinNguyen]

I always wondered why people are obsessed with battery size. How come we aren't looking into efficiency instead? What if you can have a 2500 mAH battery but 2x the efficiency?

[@beni2cc]

Or 5000 with X2 the efficiency

[@ram89572]

Because battery technology hasn't advanced that far. It's also why electric cars are still just overpriced toys for the wealthy

[@keithwoodcrest]

Isn't that pretty much apples entire approach to batteries? They always have the smallest batteries with good life because of their efficiency

[@QuackZack]

Except they already wringed that out of their batteries. iOS can get away with smaller mAh batteries because their software is optimized so well for their own devices. Android's optimizations are stretched wide and thin thanks to needing to support and optimize for thousands of devices.

[@jordanprofadayiro7569]

why are you using the zflip as reference when there's the flip 5

[@LePedant]

Apple STILL used USB 2.0 and The Lightning Port in 2023. Even today, they use USB 2.0 on non-Pro models. I love how Apple fans justify that by saying "Apple only releases things when they are up to Apple's incredibly high standard".

[@Montpbm7]

Ikr, lol 😆 these clowns 🤡 🤡 are funny. Apple doesn't make the best of anything.

[@JayPlvg]

The last time I came this early my gf laughed at me.

[@martinseal1987]

Matt is absolutely out of his mind on this one

[@freshvintage]

I'm late to the party here (great video BTW!) - if Apple does not name the phone/tablet/whatever they are working on now the "iPhold" I'm done 😂

[@LeandroFTW]

Apple will market this as the first ever folding smartphone. Their marketing team just needs a new word for "foldable."

[@JEWxChasers]

“Matt still hating” lmfao

[@thefrog9119]

My guess is, it will never happen. Let's put this hypothetic folding iPhone in the glove box of the Apple car and forget it.

[@kgoodfarms]

I have the zflip 5 and it really doesn't feel chunky in the pocket at all. In fact the shorter profile folded makes it the least noticeable in-pocket phone ive had since my blackberry curve over a decade ago.

[@Kush_McDank420]

Only if you're wearing really tight or form fitting pants will the "thickness" of the Z flip actually matter. I had a Z flip 3 for like 3 years and it never mattered to me I only switched back to the S24+ because the foldable screen crapped out on me and after that it was just a brick that only worked for the flash light feature

[@kgoodfarms]

@Kush_McDank420 true. I don't wear baggy pants by any means but certainly not skinny jeans. I could see that being a different story

[@PeteTrerice]

Matt’s right on the timeline; it’s a great goal for the iPhone XX - the whole campaign is around reimagining what an iPhone can be

[@thebigpurplefloof]

Love the fact phones rotate between full and folding

[@SoteroMurguia]

I’d love to see a folding iPhone. Gimme the iPhone that opens to an iPad mini sized tablet!

[@BigBob-p9d]

Flip is just cheaper, thats why it’s so much more popular!!! It compromises features and is more expensive!! It makes no sense, how would u keep it in your back pocket even???? 😂

[@TomT-bn1lm]

iPhones are boring, and they are for the 80% of iphone users that do not want any radical changes. The iPhone user base is basically locked in and Apple won't be rocking the boat. Their design is mostly static, there OS is doesn't change much, but the Apps may change a little. The folding phones are exciting, they are still new and offer interesting things with every update. Just coz iPhone users love iPhone, doesn't mean they should be stuck with not so exciting, but Apple knows what side their bread is buttered.

[@highestrbi]

Any iphone past the x is almost the exact same. Besides camera

[@krypticgaming2629]

quest 3 is way better than apple vision lmao 😭

[@TomT-bn1lm]

@@totoditv For a product that does the same thing but without the app ecosystem, and has very few current uses, the Vision Pro is only better as hardware and any company charging that much could make it work 90% the same as the Vision Pro. Meta knows it's market does NOT want a $3500 headset, but they have the resources to build an identical headset.

[@GamingWithTristanTroxell]

to make the glass strong enough to be able to withstand scratches and still be able to fold we are gonna need to lace clear kevlar into the glass with a gorilla glass victus overlay

[@itsdeonlol]

I agree with Matt!

[@victoresarey4036]

Can't ruin what already sucks

[@razzapple5442]

I for one wish Mat would talk about cloud gaming more. I just want cloud gaming to get better.

[@MACBoricua]

Matt is on my team…. Please, Austin, what’s the thing with flips?! We may never see a ‘durable as glass’ screen for a folding phone!! Ask yourself one question, which is already answered: they have been show hundreds de prototype foldings, in almost every size, even before you all started on YT!! And I’m turning 60!

[@DJ_Darkstar]

"Durable as glass"?!? Since when is glass actually durable when you see broken slab phone screens everywhere?!? Drop an iPhone and it shatters like an egg

[@mateuszmaliszewski1698]

Keep it we don’t want it

[@ting4939]

The z flip has nothing on Motorola razr

[@darkphase7799]

I use an Otterbox defender on all my phones so I don't really care about how big it is in my pocket. I am more worried about my phones surviving, rather than if it folds or does something fancy like that. I use a pixel 8 pro.

[@qiii]

Imagine a folding cloud gaming device Matt

[@apollolux]

Personally, I’d rather see smartphones return to having physical keyboards (slide-out/fold-out or candy bar) like the Motorola Droid, Palm Centro, Blackberry, or heck even the old Sidekick, and a headphone jack.

[@briangallagher8881]

This is the most contradictory video I've watched in a long time.

[@hw2577]

My wild guess is that Apple's version: The lid will be thinner than the base. It can be positioned in an angle so that the phone in this form factor will be more comfortable to use for voice. In this configuration, the dialer will stay appearing on the lower half. When the lid is fully opened, the display will show the regular iPhone screen.

[@BigBob-p9d]

Y lid thinner?

[@TomT-bn1lm]

such a clunky design idea. Unless Apple design goes bat-sh*t crazy, not way they will go 'unbalanced' and not symmetrical.

[@magicjack4076]

Apple should be dominating the market as they were first with the iPhone 6

[@myriddncarmarthen847]

Correction: In every market Apple makes a product that product is the most anti-consumer version of it" ;-)

[@martinseal1987]

Anti consumer is good for business when you have a cult following

[@motherearth7303]

@@martinseal1987they know they can get away with it, so they continue to push it further and further.

[@MACBoricua]

I rather have Apple go back to a smaller factor unit, rather than a fold; either way I won’t buy it! I will stick with Matt! 😂😂😂

[@viharkottakota1849]

An Apple folding phone??? Fugg no

[@itsgeodoodz]

Ahh yess you want more trashy cameras on it, the iphone 10 camera pro coming soon

[@deathdecorvid9926]

Do something different 😂

[@Soraviel]

Lmao, well why not?

[@nonnnth]

If Apple wants to be funny, they will make a regular size iPhone but it will unfold to be twice as tall, so it can become a new meme.

[@nappa0582]

Apple: we will remove the headphone jack and you will like it. General Public: That's gunna be a no for me.

[@gijoeljamesmaldonado]

why not a phone with a hand crank?

[@Adam1llion]

iPhone Pro Max folding to iPad mini is what I have been wanting since the day the iPhone came out. With iOS and iPadOS this is the move.

[@Lando00100]

Is that a new this is episode? I'd love to watch it if my cornea's weren't fried from mY vision pro. 😵 Thank goodness my speech to text works flawlessly. Hashtag go apple.

[@ram89572]

I'm just not that interested in the current Flip style. I did have a Fold 3 and Fold 4 for a couple years. But I went back to the S24 Ultra when it came out

[@ElectricalPaint25]

foldables are fire, cloud gaming in itself is awesome but as a service paid for in a subscription sucks.

[@AdamSmith-gs2dv]

I will personally NEVER buy a foldable as long as they keep using plastic displays. Plastic sucks because it scratches extremely easily

[@johnreeves6854]

I'll take my z fold over a z flip anytime

[@marcustmusic]

If Apple is going the flip/fold route, I think it would make more sense to make their first gen based off the SE/8 design since they'll most likely cut down specs for increased margins anyways. Still, I think the iPad fold thing be more interesting but of course they won't go there.

[@robaustin3258]

Yup, Apple IPhone or nothing. LETS GO!!

[@photosbymiketm2461]

Only thing that's currently holding Apple back with their iPhones that can't currently compete against Android is #1 iPhones out of the box aren't able to sideload apps outside of the app store and #2 iPhones have less customization compared to Android. If Apple allowed to fully be able to sideload any apps available online like installing APK apps and allowed full customization like Android then Apple will have the ultimate best device hands down. These are the only 2 things holding iPhones back compared to owning a android device. I choose android because I need to be able to install APK apps outside of the Google Play store.

[@HellsProphecy]

Introducing the new folding iPhone! Its as much money as a Z Fold with only half the size and functionality!

[@christiancarter7563]

I would absolutely live a iPhone flip. I’ve used both the Z flip and the razr. Love both. But I want one with iOS.

[@m.hreels9822]

I switched over from iPhone to using the new Motorola Razr plus folding phone 📱❤️ 👍🏻 and I've been loving it ever since! Apple needs to get on the folding phone bandwagon! 🍎

[@skyMcWeeds]

Apple invented the concept of foldable phones with the bendgate it was the start of s revolution 😂😂😂

[@DJ_Darkstar]

😅😂😅😂

[@jamesburke2759]

Why don't we just use 2 seperate 4:3 screens that snap together like that 120K tv from CES. no hinge issues, easy and cheap replace for either screen. ???? am i on to something?

[@chris0wheelock]

both foldable phones and cloud gaming are like an ouya

[@Deja117]

I want a phone that reliably makes calls and gets messages, with software that just works all the time. Oh a web browser too... Anything else is just a cherry on top. Still, ease to navigate and good software is a must. Like if I get a call, I want to be able to answer it within 2 seconds of touching my phone.

[@loch3765]

The new Razr is built so much better than the Z Flip

[@Sonnylll94]

Remember the LG G Flex we’ve come along way

[@jaimepontes3236]

The year is 2045. I still don't see any advantages on the "Flip Form factor". With Fold you have more screen. With flip you just pay more for less.

[@DJ_Darkstar]

Flip is just compact. Retro to the days of the desire to have the smallest phone possible after the huge ones of the 90's

[@MACBoricua]

I do agree…. Craig! Take him out to dinner…. And I see him as the next CEO!! Don’t you think?!

[@user-be3mk6cg4c]

Just can't get on board with folders, until it last as long at my Oneplus 7 pro I still use 😅

[@DJ_Darkstar]

You would actually absolutely LOVE the OnePlus Open! No bigger nor heavier than an iPhone 14 Pro but unfolds into a near 8" tablet

[@Wedeemgaming]

Thin for what? We are acting like the Zfold is really thick 😮 it fold and its pocketable! Personally there are 2 things if they got rid of I wouldn't even care, foldable screens on phones and curved screens on phones. I'd be happy to never see another curved screen on a Samsung phone again!

[@unCoopervised]

I really would be excited to have an iPhone that folded out to the size of an iPad, mini or bigger. But I really don’t want a regular size phone that folds in half to be shorter but twice as thick. Just give me the tall thin phone.

[@DoctorX17]

Personally I don't see the point of the hamburger... hot dog all the way for me. I'd be quite interested in an iPad I can fold into an iPhone size, even if it's a little thicker

[@misterpanda8820]

took them long enough, they made a preview of it way back in iphone 6 rofl

[@dmitriytechmix1665]

My question is, what and when will Google and Microsoft will release their versions of VR headsets? Both of these companies have technology, available 😊

[@simpkira]

Prefer phablet folds like z fold to the razr style tbh

[@Old-School-Liberal]

I don’t want a folding iPhone what a hassle

[@CherryNecessary]

After the vision pro I feel like Iphone is going to take something out and then charge double for what it is.

[@damneddude8299]

Apple the first one to make a folding phone! LMAO

[@jasonratcliffe9535]

I don't see the point of a folding phone to unfolding a phone to have it being the same size as a normal phone it should unfold to a bigger screen

[@LarryGanz]

Yes Please - iPhone Pro max that flips open into an iPad mini!

[@NotGarrettG]

Apple flip phone. Gross. That would RUIN the iPhone.

[@NotGarrettG]

There’s a reason it’s been 5+ YEARS of folding phone companies and NON folding phone companies TRYING to do a TREND. Apple doesn’t just do a trend. They make the trends. I’d rather see DISPLAY GLASS on the BACK GLASS of iPhone, than having a phone that goes *Click*

[@chkilla1]

Would be a nice phone if it was 2005

[@ieditedmyname289]

Foldable phones are not even a fully baked product!

[@jaimeerobertswarz]

I can’t see a foldable iPhone anytime soon. You know the foldable aren’t selling well when they go from $1500 launch to $700. Then the repair cost if it break is outrageous. Also if its a foldable iPhone, the iPhone doesn’t have multitask support and doesn’t support landscape mode anymore cause of face id. They would need a special IOS version. Then knowing apple the phone would cost $2500. No thanks. There software on ios and ipad os is so far behind I cant see them doing anything truly innovative. Until 2030 at this point, or 20 years of iPhone.

[@favour9189]

Then get an android you will be happy with it sure there is occassional lag, low quality camera video and some games run low rez on android but gets the job done like a boss

[@Ponytail_MC]

I'll never understand why people are so willing to sell their souls to Apple

[@hilmalumay]

Apple's gonna release an iphone flip that is gonna be priced over 2 grand.

[@chrisspain]

fold able, non fold able, aluminum, titanium, 48Mx, 50Mx,100Mx,200Mx, no matter, all the same and really at the end of the line. Today, a $200 Android to a $1800 Samsung or iPhone will do what the average user want or need. The folding phone is not the revolution or the follow up. Something new and exiting must be radically different. And the AI clip is not doing it either. I spend money on something like the communicator in the TV show "the expanse" holographic display, natively networking with anything and anybody around regardless the screen size, cheap and 100-1000h screen on time. Until then my classic iPhone 13pro will do everything I will ever need.

[@cneasai]

I have a One Plus Open (Foldable phone, not a flipping phone) and I don't understand the appeal of a Flipping phone AT ALL. It is not any more portable than a full sized phone. How tiny are your pockets where that tiny flip makes a difference? It's absolutely not work the compromises of a crease and the reduction in durability. I have a folding phone because it's a tablet in my pocket when I need it, it is it's own kickstand, multiple camera modes, selfies with the back camera, actual competent multitasking...Like why do you like flipping phones? I left Apple because folding phones offer an actual new and better experience that Apple isn't. A flipping iPhone is not a better product than the regular iPhone. A folding iPhone however...That I may be willing to switch back for one day.

[@Realplayman17]

Xiaomi is the only other top 5 company without a flip phone

[@cgwworldministries83]

I am a huge fan of Austin, that being said; I can't stand folding phones.

[@kevinkev1530]

Apple hasn't made new tech in 13 years

[@brendankoester5216]

I will die on the fact the fold is the goat

[@_Tree]

Apple has a good build quality, but I doubt that they'll have a foldable phone for a while. While I love the Z Fold Series.......Apple isn't making one like that.