Thomas Sowell vs Academic Socialist on Employment and Price Controls

[@quonsetthehutt3105]

Has anyone else noticed the death of civil, intellectual discourse in our society today?

[@extremeddd]

Yelling and personal narratives have replaced patience and civility.

[@BladeOfLight16]

+Drka17 This is by design. The left can never win in a fair battle between ideas. Their only option for survival is to teach people to not listen.

[@notayoutuber09]

The Left arguments and theories have been proven to be wrong and false time and time ago. Thier arguments are ethos not logos. If the Left didnt have illegals voting, there would be no left party. However, the communist marxists took over university and theyre indoctrinating the ignorant and dumb.

[@dericksuapaia]

I see more today.

[@Tonyrg1988]

the product of public education

[@navsquid32]

I find it deliciously hypocritical that the socialist makes a tongue-in-cheek remark in the beginning of the segment that he was drafted into WWII and that he was less than happy about it. Except, his drafting into the war is exactly the realization of the type of socialist policies he supports. He was being compelled to do something, against his will, in the name of egalitarianism; for the common good. Like most so-called socialists, he only supports socialism when it isn't directly imposed on him. He just wants it imposed on others.

[@patbreslin5793]

+Matt Williams Well spotted. Leftists are always trying to score points by dropping in irrelevant little vignettes that they hope no-one will pick up on. Note that the above leftist does not claim to have seen action. My guess is that if he had, he would have let us know. Thomas Sowell was also drafted - Korean War.

[@bobk.463]

Matt Williams Excellent point and well put .

[@Brettagher]

Great point.

[@johnh1852]

Matt Williams brilliant

[@Keranu]

Touche, keen, and succinct.

[@peterdragon6367]

I consider myself conservative/libertarian and I'm sorry to say I just discovered mr sowell. I wish I had discovered him so much sooner

[@themeadowlarkminutewithpau8184]

Spread the word so more people find out!

[@kejiri3593]

He kind of looks like Moss from IT Crowd. But he looks like a interesting guy

[@casualobserver2380]

Better late than never!

[@YouAintBlackIfYouNeverAteThis]

I was lucky enough to discover him when I was 17, which was roughly the year this comment was written.

[@clintonr60]

@@kejiri3593 dude.. hilarious 🤣 Thomas is the man tho for sure 👍

[@jscottupton]

Even as an old man Thomas Sowell could run intellectual rings around Hillary, Trump, Obama and Bush. We need someone of his caliber as president.

[@anthonyweinersnose2583]

J Scott Upton Oh fuck, absolutely. Sowell's fckng brilliant.

[@zitools]

amen

[@672egalaxie6]

2020!

[@davidbryant3223]

from your mouth to God's ear...

[@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8]

NEW STUDY CONFIRMS ECONOMY Was DESTROYED by DEM POLICIES A new study from the widely respected U.S. NATIONAL BUREAU of ECONOMIC RESEARCH (the official arbiter of U.S. recessions) released this week has confirmed beyond question that the left's race-baiting attacks on the housing market (the Community Reinvestment Act--enacted under CARTER, made shockingly more aggressive under CLINTON) is directly responsible for imploding the housing market and destroying the economy. The study painstakingly sorted through failed home loans that caused the housing market collapse and identified an overwhelming connection between them and CRA mortgages. Again, let's review: - President BUSH went to Congress repeatedly for years warning them that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were going to destroy the economy (17 times in 2008 alone). DEMOCRATS continuously ignored him, shut down his proposals along party lines and continued raiding the institutions for campaign contributions on their way down. - JOHN McCAIN also co-sponsored urgently critical reforms that would have prevented the housing market collapse, but DEMOCRATS shut that down as well, along party lines, and even openly ridiculed anyone who suggested reforms were necessary...to protect their taxpayer-funded campaign contributions as the economy raced uncontrollably toward the cliff. - No one was making bad loans to unqualified people until DEMOCRATS came along and threatened to drag banks into court and have them fined and branded as racists if they didn't go along with the left's Affirmative Action lending policies...all while federally insuring their losses. Even the NEW YORK TIMES warned in the late 1990s that DEMOCRATS continuing to force banks into lowering their standards would lead to this exact catastrophe. - OBAMA himself is even on the record personally helping sue one lender (Citibank) into lowering its lending standards to include people from extremely poor and unstable areas, which even one of the left's favorite blatantly partisan "fact-checkers," Snopes, admits (while pretending to 'set the record straight'). - Even The NEW YORK TIMES admitted that there is "little evidence" of any connection between the "REPUBLICAN" deregulation measures OBAMA blames, like the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (signed into law by a DEMOCRAT), and the collapse of the housing market. But non-Fox media have spent years deliberately and relentlessly inoculating people against the facts, training them to mindlessly blame BUSH for being in charge when DEMOCRAT policies destroyed the economy. So here we sit, to this day, still watching OBAMA excuse and shrug off endless economic failures, illegal government takeovers and utter national bankruptcy with zero accountability.

[@douglassjac]

When he said the thing about 'we haven't had enough time to properly sketch my utopia' I burst out laughing for 5 straight minutes. 'It hasn't been done the right way yet, I can do it perfect, trust me'. Socialists never change.

[@Your_Mossad_Handler]

I have trouble remembering that “utopian” doesn’t definitionally mean “an impossible vision whose pursuit tends to cause unprecedented horror.”

[@teg5135]

Yep just give them more money and power, and you have less freedom, and then they can make it utopia…

[@neo-nazisgetcucked4190]

he’s not wrong

[@neo-nazisgetcucked4190]

he’s not wrong

[@themotocrosslounge8697]

@@neo-nazisgetcucked4190 yea he is

[@koyunbaba73]

Arguing economics against Tom Sowell is like arguing about how to throw a fastball against Randy Johnson.

[@anthonyweinersnose2583]

koyunbaba73 Just found Sowell. Thank God. In a sea of foolishness this man's intellect is a lighthouse.

[@TruthisWITHIN]

I’m 31 years old and I’m embarrassed I’ve just recently discovered Thomas Sowell.

[@aaroncain4452]

@@TruthisWITHIN same here

[@josephsweeney8611]

Well said

[@gggusc11]

It took me a minute to realize that this was a debate of opposing views, there was now screaming or name calling. What a time we live in.....

[@dogdriver70]

that's back when intelligent, well-meaning people with opposing views could treat each other with respect

[@Alexwhatisit]

William F. Buckley would lean on the floor if he could have found a chair that'll go that far.

[@bernie.fitzpatrick7948]

Lol😁👍

[@richardtytus1546]

F U N N Y

[@jeremiahsams2848]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Kilgore482]

I can only lament that we no longer live in a society in which such discourse was commonplace on television. God bless Thomas Sowell, then and still one of America's greatest intellectuals.

[@pacifront83]

Even if such discourses take place, it is now deemed “miss information”

[@pauljnolan1000]

Not only is he wrong, he's obnoxiously wrong.

[@neo-nazisgetcucked4190]

@Complete Failure | Total Loser | Low IQ Subhuman 🤡

[@casualobserver2380]

This guy positively has the most annoying speaking mannerisms of anyone I have ever heard... Only thing worse is what he has to say.

[@richardtytus1546]

Funny

[@fullautoant]

oh you're talking about the socialist

[@pacifront83]

Buckley seems to have a similar but distinct dialect of English- I agree with Buckley, so it doesn’t bother me one bit lol

[@VidkunQL]

I really can't stand people who say _"aaaaaaaaaaahhh"_ while they think about what to say next, in order to keep anyone else from starting to talk. They make me wish I had some grapes and a slingshot.

[@randylahey8207]

It's what makes Thomas so amazing. His thoughts are like a spigot that turns off and on, always ready to flow out and drown fools like this in undeniable logic. He is a treasure..

[@mrshah2043]

Thomas Sowell is an absolute champion from academic America.

[@johnzenger7880]

What a “lovely” debate. They were civil and respectful in this clip. People arguing ideas and not attacking their fellow man.

[@alexchaney8916]

whaaaaaaaat an iiiiiiiinntereeeeesting viiiiiideeoooooo

[@uppercutgrandma4425]

Iiiiiiiii fouuuuuunnnddd iiiiiit only really goooooooooooddddddd

[@jamesmoriarty9603]

iiiiiiiiiiiii am always haaaapyy when i fiiiiiiiiind a thomas soooooowell viiiiiiideooooooo... *breathes in* that i hadn't seeeeen befoooooooooore

[@bernie.fitzpatrick7948]

Yeeessss aaannndd I like it froooommm New Zealaaannnddd🇳🇿👍👋

[@SamvedIyer]

If I may part ways with this interesting lyrical tradition, I must say by means of my rustic words that I concur.

[@marcusporciuscatotheyounge5795]

Thomas Sowell did not have to work vary hard to gut this Socialist. Price control and Rationing are always a bad idea as Sowell explains.

[@marcusporciuscatotheyounge5795]

***** you're my hero

[@JADEGATETIGRESS]

Marcus Porcius Cato TheYounger Indeed.

Works pretty well in Scandinavia lmao

[@donaldthesavage1288]

Kyle Manes They have large social programs, but not necessarily the price controls and rationing.

[@TheJpwzrd]

Preparation makes it seem so :)

[@jonmkl]

“I would like to see the well-off take care of themselves. If they can’t, who can?” HELL yes.

[@wrAIth-AI]

"... which came after 40 years of so called progress." "That's not enough time for... Utopia"

[@GNBcorporal]

these are some of the exact same debates we have today only a lot better informed and more civil

[@erniereyes1994]

Thomas Sowell would've mopped up the floor with Noam Chomsky.

[@randylahey8207]

He still would..

[@MattH-wg7ou]

"I therefore identify myself as an improperly educated economist" ...well...yea. Duh. Or as the distinguished Mr Sowell said: "hear, hear!"

[@zenodotusofathens2122]

Buckley said: "hear, hear"

[@CheeseKing007]

The socialist reminds me of Miss Fowl aka Jimmy Neutron’s teacher.

[@LittleHatori]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 HERE HERE!🍻🍻🍻🍻

[@Winter0263]

Holy shit you're right LMAO

[@truth0149]

Thomas is exactly correct. Very intelligent man , always enjoy his conversations.

[@LittleHatori]

Sowell and the host seem like rly good friends. Like- I would watch a buddy cop show featuring them just policing academia with STATISTICAL FACTS AND SAVAGERY.

[@fortusvictus8297]

William F. Buckley Jr. Hell of a lot of content with him, namely the famous (infamous?) debates with Gore Vidal.

[@TheSterlingArcher16]

All of modern history in two sentences: free societies with open markets and unintrusive governments flourish and raise the prosperity/ ease of access to prosperity. Societies with more intrusive governments, especially governments that attempt central planning of the economy fail, or diminish the prosperity of their people.

[@TexKimball]

Spot on. It angers me that people can't realize this. Especially young people, they have no idea what they're getting themselves into.

[@MrClaudiuzz9]

+Logan S. well said, well said. Sooner or later reason and logic will triumph emotions. It's a lot more appealing to receive instant gratification for 'free' things and the feeling of helping those less fortunate

[@lubomirkompis9441]

Yeah, the cycle eerily reminds me of Imperial Order in the Sword of Truth book series.

[@WJack97224]

@Archer, And the US politicians have impose all 10 Planks of the Commie Manifesto, which is why all of them are commie/socialists. Remember that old response to the question of why some commie/socialist had special stores where they could get the "good" stuff: because comrade, some comrades are more equal than others.

[@coutz64]

Plus also there’s fighting

[@TeamTriumphHQ]

Thomas Sowell is an Economic Ninja... With "Knowledge Nunchakus"

[@andresp7136]

Just found Thomas Sowell. He's growing on me, for now, Friedman is still the GOAT.

[@TheBrunarr]

I like him too, Thomas Sowell was Friedman's student after all!

[@gabec6410]

Hayek is my main man too 🤜🏻🤛🏻

[@themeadowlarkminutewithpau8184]

Gabriel Ciraulo hell yeah

[@WJack97224]

@Andres Peirano, Read Henry Hazlitt's Economics in One Lesson and then The Inflation Crisis and How to Resolve It. Friedman was in favor of inflation but could not figure out how much but then inflation is theft so Friedman had a problem. Yes, I like Milton but he was wrong about political government control of "money." Politics is violence and political government is the bane and pain of mankind; it is not Christian. Oh, and voting is an act of violence as it sanctions political government to use force to impose the voter's beliefs, opinions, views, prejudices and "false religion" on those who do not share the same.

[@BladeOfLight16]

@@TheBrunarr I really think that Sowell ultimately surpassed Friedman. He just makes all his conclusions so down to Earth and obvious. He makes it look like believing anything else is completely stupid, which it usually is.

[@SimpMaker]

Type of debates, I yearn to see in my generation. Civil, cohesive, but also straight up.

[@alanvld3703]

Why would any one willing enter into a debate against Thomas Sowell? You'd have a better chance fighting a grizzly with a spoon.

[@joehancock5119]

I wish I could have studied economics under Dr. Sowell. Guess I'll just have to read every Thomas Sowell book I can get my hands on.

[@CiCiKensey02]

I just love listening toThomas Sowell. I show YT videos of him to my family.

[@Technoguy3]

Sowell's patience with this guy amazes me.

[@noreexic]

On a side note, isn't it strange how all of these accents are no longer common, dialects are becoming very homogenized

[@haikat4]

Buckley's transatlantic accent is a thing of beauty and almost completely lost.

[@christineshields3653]

@@haikat4 Firing Line was required watching as we grew up. I love Buckley’s voice. Love his books as well. He lives on in his words.

[@discojoe3]

40 years later Thomas Sowell has the exact same hairstyle and glasses. Hahaha

[@JADEGATETIGRESS]

discojoe3 If it ain't broke...

[@LittleHatori]

Gotta love The academic afro

[@mena94x3]

What a shame Thomas Sowell never ran for president.

[@xchen3079]

TS is not for usa president. But his main books should set as the ABC course to be qualified as president candidate.

[@VanillaThunder930]

The show was named Firing Line with William Buckley Jr. and aired on PBS.

[@ohedd]

00:23 "unifooooormah" wtf??

[@davee91889]

Oh nice times those were, when people could have a peaceful intellectual exchange of ideas

[@johnblaze5252]

I found myself drifting off because no one was raising voices & menacing or talking over another. Then I realized how much I miss my childhood the late 70’s early 80’s. The freedom of opinion was still free as compared to today.

[@Pedrotheporcupine]

I just made a commitment to post this statement in whatever video pops first in my newsfeed. Great video

[@jirensentry7609]

I don't see this type of discussion anymore. In fact, I miss *"It's Academic!"* I just miss this.

[@marcusporciuscatotheyounge5795]

Thomas Sowell crushed this socialist.

[@matthewanders4907]

Thomas is the man!

[@detectivefiction3701]

Mr. Dan Austen: Mr. Buckley's accent was not "put on." It was real, a combination of many environments/influences in his early life: American Southern, New England and, yes, British, as he was educated in a prep-school environment. I think there was a French influence as well. That's why his accent sounds so unusual: it's an amalgamation of many things.

[@DieFlabbergast]

Who the hell gives a damn about the man's accent? Do you understand what he's saying: for the vast majority of people with a reasonable education, the answer must be: yes. That's all that need be said. Now let's talk about substantive issues, such as WHAT Buckley is saying, rather than how.

[@bhseeley]

Regardless of the subject matter, all 3 of these men could work as voice overs as just listening to the way they speak is fascinating in itself.

[@adithya945]

It's sad that today we don't have such beautiful debates.

[@thebeatnumber]

When anyone uses the word "utopia" in the sense of it being an attainable goal, just run for the hills.

[@kingsman428]

*"...40 years of progress under your system..."* 🤣🤣🤣

[@striker890trewq7]

Dam you can tell it's a good debate when they're having fun.

[@CoolHandLuke7]

this was such a good show

[@typeerk]

Mort! Get back to your pharmacy in Quahog!!

[@SoNoFTheMoSt]

+typeerk reaching bro.

[@billdipperly6079]

Lol

[@uppercutgrandma4425]

Thhhaaaatttttsss verrrrrryyyy iiiinnnnttteeerrrreeessstttiing

[@ME-fo7si]

Thomas Sowell has a great smile, can’t really say the same about the other two.

[@christineshields3653]

Buckley is awesome. Watch some Firing Line for quite a devilish smile.

[@tonycarver2745]

William F., RIP. watched a lot of him when there were only 5 or 6 channels on Tv.

[@LunHaolai]

At least they have a cordial and respectful conversation

[@warrenstemphly5756]

Two opposing views having a logical discussion while throwing the occasional respectful insult. This is how civilization is supposed to work!

[@SirParcifal]

I'm in love with Thomas Sowell - damn it I wish he would have ran for president! I would have voted for him!

[@naturalbornchiller158]

Its rare for people to talk like this today. We havent progressed, we've regressed.

[@darrininmesa9750]

I'd love to see the full hour show on this one

[@carmelopappalardo8477]

We cannot watch shows like this anymore. A shame.

[@ragnarthedestroyer3545]

This is fantastic rationalization of two opposing ideas in friendly manners and terms

[@jakenicholaides3214]

We just haven't done socialism properly yet. We'll get it right this time promise

[@davidshaw901]

It used to be okay to hear different educated points of view and then formulate your own opinions. Today the media decide what is good for you and narratives are not to be challenged.

[@BruiserBailey1]

Currently reading Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged". It is as if this Academic Socialist has stepped from the pages.

[@cemab4y]

Sowell did not gut this man. He boiled him dried him, and jerked him.

[@AnmlPeeweeIsHere]

Charles Martin Indeed.

[@rodneyleon3645]

did this thing do a reverse Jenner?

[@phill2035]

Thank God for Thomas Sowell.

[@shane3589]

Given the current climate, these discussions are refreshing.

[@brianrajala7671]

Thanks for Thomas Sowell!

[@Lisat1109]

I grew up watching William F. Buckley on Firing Line and he has always had some twitches. It doesn't mean he was doing drugs. He was a brilliant man and if you want some insight into his intellect watch more videos of him or read some of his writings. He is sorely missed because we now have an ignorant electorate.

[@cj222100]

I like that they actually took turns talking, anymore stuff like this, people just yell & talk at the same time

[@iluvinternalcombustion]

Sowell could take a nap and still outsmart this guy before he finishes his sentence, this is too easy for him.

[@sushrutabatsya]

October 2020, anyone?

[@bernie.fitzpatrick7948]

November 22nd 2020. In New Zealand🇳🇿👍👋😊

[@paytonwalter7934]

Thomas Sowell is a jewel. I can’t believe I just found out about him or no one told me not him. I need new fiends.

[@AlwaysIndoors]

If only it was possible to for someone with the character of Thomas Sowell to reach high office in this country.

[@santiagowolf9535]

I believe he turned one down multiple times. Unfortunately people who desire liberty seldom want to control others. Therefore you have the power hungry commies gaining ground.

[@lucabrazi3067]

What a nice discussion between 2 different opinions. Not like today.

[@Daddy0os]

Whenever I've seen Harrington debate it's as if he has full knowledge that he's a complete clown and his ideas are absurd... but he goes ahead with it anyway.

[@eagle6702]

I'm middle class and yet I have much more than my parents did back in the 80's when was a teenager and we were middle class.

[@tsuba14]

when someone says, they want to create a utopia for you, run the other way!

[@yowie12]

Please post more Thomas Sowell videos, wherever you can find them.

[@VityokOrgUa]

Yes, try listening to any Chomsky speeches.

[@uppercutgrandma4425]

if that guy's voice was used everytime you type out a letter on anything.... Ttttttthhhhhhaaaaaatttt wwwwooouuuuuullldddnnnn't bbbeeeee gooooodddd

[@stewheart]

That's how you disagree with dignity and respect

[@holybear]

Buckley managed to find someone who sounds even more patrician than he does xD

[@hello15848]

If only this was a current show on TV today. They dumbed down their shows to CNN nonsense.

[@john172867]

Sowell is a genius and sharp as a tack.

[@benmiddleton9984]

@ J ML. Do you know that it is illegal they have private government meetings in this country but yet it happens every year at the Bohemian Grove and the annual builder berg meetings.

[@vivahvv]

A new term has been created to describe the behavior of the person with the red tie, "smugnorant". Otherwise known now as the Dunning-Kruger effect.

[@michellec1866]

The “oohaa” is so annoying!

[@chiefslinginbeef3641]

How do I turn off cc?

[@tomkeating5178]

I Love Sowell

[@bernie.fitzpatrick7948]

Metoo. From New Zealand🇳🇿👍😊💕

[@gabekarp3008]

Sowell cleans the clock of this unidentified "academic" again and again; Buckley just smiles like the Cheshire cat.

[@chrispafrieddreams9118]

👍👍👍 miss Buckley too...

[@Thomasianwood]

One thing I can agree with the minimum wage is it prevents people from falling into poverty, but at the same time if governments are enforcing a minimum wage law, corporate tax and income tax, and businesses want to maintain their profits. The solutions are to increase their prices in the revenue or shift their costs into cheaper machinery, which means employees have to be removed and ultimately doesn’t help anyone

[@emkuf]

That dude looks like the ackchyually meme in a suit and tie

[@hoosierteacher]

Maximum wage is being used as another term for price and wage controls. He used the term to link it with his point on minimum wage. You have heard of the price controls and (to Sowell's point) wage controls haven't you? They were courtesy of FDR.

[@Showmetheevidence-]

Yeah. Common sense isn’t really that common. Then when you subtract this lack of common sense from an “academic”… wow!

[@gurugeorge]

lol I think you're right, he also gurns a couple of times.

[@gurugeorge]

More like Ellsworth M. Toohey from one of Ayn Rand's novels :)

[@ngl31186]

Don't know the name but the host is William Buckley Jr.

[@misterjosh]

Did anything think of count Fenring from Dune when the socialist was talking?

[@servantprince]

'everyone' 'thinks' they 'know' and 'beleive' that they know absolutely. galatians6:For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.