Simplify your setup with the CYRUS ONE HD Integrated amp

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A class D integrated amp with a Toroidal transformer.
Just a note this is a “Hybrid D Class” amplifier rather than just D Class.
The combination of D Class tech with a linear power supply is of their own design.
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[@ThomasAndStereo]

Just a note this is a “Hybrid D Class” amplifier rather than just D Class. The combination of D Class tech with a linear power supply is of their own design. Finally, this unit is made in England.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I don't know about the details but I did ask the distributor of Cyrus where was it made and they told me England. (I just confirmed it is made in England and to be consider as made in England, it means the majority of the components have to be made in England.)If you look at the comments from a lot of youtube videos, you will see for some people, a local made product is important to them so I think it is important to mention. I don't think it is right to group all asians together and I never mystify or think local made products will automatically sound better. If anything, the fact that I have experience with so many product has already showed me it makes zero difference where it is made.

[@carlitomelon4610]

Yeah, me too :-D

[@moktaabdul6310]

I did recommend you this before. You need a separate power supply for every poweramplifier you add or if you add monoblocks. So 4 poweramplifier will require 4 powersupply. Even a CD player will require powersupply. That's pure 100% signal path that doesn't interfere with main mother board.

[@moktaabdul6310]

Cyrus does the Class A, amplifier aswell. they do 3 versions.

[@see1953]

@@ThomasAndStereo Is it suitable for acoustic energy ae300..ae500? I want to use it to build a computer hifi！Or can you suggest me based on experience？

[@josevarela6352]

Thank you again for another hifi review. I do really love the Cyrus One design. It's definitively different, atractive. Greatings from Spain.

[@spunkthecombo]

Great review, thanks! I really love the looks of the Cyrus gear.

[@siliconnubian3622]

I have very fond memories of a Cyrus 1 Mk2 driving a pair of Acoustics 3a MM's that I owned for many years. Haven't matched that setup since. Good to see that Mission is still producing great products.

[@simonlai]

What a wonderful unique comment of yours among others on the Cyrus One HD, tks Thomas.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, glad it is interesting.

[@pedrocols]

A product like this makes a lot of sense today. There are a lot of speakers out there that I am sure can work great with this unit.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yes, it is great for a certain group of people.

[@Chapterrifik]

Awesome info here, love the suspension metaphor... lol.. Awesome stuff Thomas.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Lol. Glad it kind of make sense.

[@Chapterrifik]

@@ThomasAndStereo as a JDM enthusiast I totally dig that 🔰😉

[@marcbrummel8566]

Thank you for the review. Another "All In " solution, is the just arrived AUDIOLAB 6000A Play. It has one thing that others does not have. You can switch From all in to preamp that switches the inbuild power amp off. So you can drive some pair of speakers, maybe for tv with the audiolab, and when you switch you can use as preamp for your tube or other amp. It also can be used as Line out but then the inbuild power amp is still on.

[@Noisycarl1]

I have this amp and really enjoy how it makes me want to listen to more music. When I first got the HD I was using a friends focal 918's, it sounded punchy and powerful, now I have it connected to my martin logan Aeons and it sounds divine, works brilliantly with acoustic guitar and female vocals, for the money I paid i think it's a cracking amp.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Very cool! Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@mdsveda]

I have the ONE CAST with Triangle BR03's and they match very well. Smooth, non-abrasive: totally agree.

[@hi-fihaven2257]

Hi Thomas! Nice looking unit. I really like the minimalist aesthetics. Great rear panel layout, with plenty of inputs. I really like that toroidal transformer. It also has a pretty nice price tag. "I" really like the mellow LED's, it would be a bonus in my smaller room. Not too bright. For the cables that I use the rear panel would work just fine. Like that is has those pre-outs. Flexibilty=Awesome. Thank You much for for introducing us viewers to another great product. Have a great one man!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Many thanks for the comment. Yeah, the more product we know out there, the more choices we have.

[@hi-fihaven2257]

@@ThomasAndStereo I would totally agree with that statement!

[@carlitomelon4610]

Nostalgia attack here Thomas! My first HiFi amp was the first Cyrus one. I built a Russ Andrews external PSU for the power amp section. The Cyrus two at the time had the option of a Cyrus XPSU and the circuit boards were the same, so I modded my amp....and the clipping at higher volumes went away. This latest version has a torroid almost the same size as the one I built! Thanks for the review:-) PS looking again: my torroid filled the full width of the case. The 4 DNM caps and polypro bypass caps most of what was left:-D

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Your welcome, yeah I find class D amps that come with a good power supply seems to have a bit more "juice."

[@danielthomas7747]

Fantastic.... Thank you!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Glad you liked it!

[@one-wayexistence4482]

Good review and profound thoughts.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, appreciate it.

[@Ceko]

I really like this unit. If I was to start all over I’d probably get something like this instead of separates.

[@aboxofphotons]

That babby is quite possibly the cutest thing I've ever seen...

[@jeanm289]

Great point about 'but separates are better'. I'd pick a high-end integrated over a mediocre seperates anytime, saves the matching and cabling for the engineers that design it.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Nice way to put it, I should have position it that way in the video.

[@sidvicious3129]

Thomas it’s funny that you would be talking about integrated amps because I just picked up a Rotel RA-1572 for a bedroom system and I have not had an integrated amp in decades. I’m shocked how much that they have changed and all of the features, like the Bluetooth,Aptx standard, it actually sounds okay. Class A/B and 120 watts in 4 or 8 ohms continuous. I have never owned a Rotel product., but the deal that I got it for puts it at 300.00 less than the Cyrus. Normal price would have been 500.00 more than the Cyrus. I almost bought an Arcam SA-20. The Rotel is just loaded with features including pre-out, and the ability to turn on when a particular source is turned on and playing from stand by. I bought this for a pair of bowers and Wilkins CM5, bookshelves, which sound great with it probably because of the close relationship that bowers and Wilkins has with Rotel being the distributer.

[@larry4802]

Great review! I'm looking for a replacement for a PS Audio S-300/Stellar Gain Cell- This sounds great

[@ianstorm45]

Having a digital parametric equalizer world make it so easy to tailor and couple almost any Amp and speaker together.

[@smugglersrun7779]

I use a anolog EQ and the benefits far out way the old school thinking of not adding components into the chain. Also use a tube preamp sounds awesome

[@smugglersrun7779]

Yes your bang on what ever sounds good to one person might not be good for another.

[@paulwooldridge2380]

I have this with Monitor Audio RS6 speakers which some people can find slightly bright, they work beautifully together.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, that is one possible good combo. I had the RS8 and I can see where you are coming from.

[@zjzozn]

Great vlog.... all engineering is a compromise..... ok I better get one 😁 Tell is more about the DIY cables 🤔

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, those DIY Litz cable is what I settle on after trying like 15+ speaker cables. It is however not cheap for a DIY cable.

[@ivansmola]

Очень приятная подача материала👍 Спасибо!

[@simplcity]

Hello Thomas, thank you for the review! I‘m going to buy a Cyrus One Cast and have a pair of LEF LS50 and a Q Acoustics B12. Where did you put the crossover for the B12? Thanks in advance and greetings from Germany! Niclas

[@scottlowell493]

Note: When you employ a class D circuit in the amp, it's Class D. Just biasing or adding other circuitry does not make it another class like A/B. Lyngdorf, Rogue audio and others use hybrid circuits. What that does, is improve the treble above 15khz vs pure class D. Class D amps are noisy and vague above 15khz as measured. This "vague" treble manifests in a softer/diffuse tube-like sound vs class a/b. Manufacturers like Class D audio, Crown, Nuforce etc... all have the same vague treble. Good sounding amps, but lacking on top for me.

[@arturruta226]

T’hans for the review. Doing the right mix of objective data with personal perceptions and taste is far from easy but it’s definitely a must in this field and you definitely master it. Regarding this amp, do you consider a reasonable match for the pmc db1 gold you praised on another review (for a desktop near field)? Would you rather consider the ls50w in such environment? Thanks a lot in advance.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Hmm , for me in nearfield, the PMC DB1 Gold is amazing. It worked ok when I tried it on my desk, more full sounding when compared to the Yamaha WXA50. If you prefer a bit of leaner sound, then the WXA50. LS50w, I never tested it nearfield so I don't know.

[@aussie8114]

I have a Cyrus 8 amp with the updated dac. I’m no expert but I think it’s very good. Huge detailed sound out of a half size unit.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Nice, thanks for sharing.

[@Philear4124]

What I wonder is how this cyrus contrasts with the Belcanto c5i. Kind regards Phil

[@jogmas12]

I have the original Cyrus one from 1985. It was made by Mission Electronics in England. $399 back in the day. 25 wpc into 8 ohms, 40 wpc into 4 ohms. 40 amperes on peaks, 10 continuous.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, they have been around for a long time, I wonder what kind of sound signature they used to have.

[@jogmas12]

Thomas & Stereo It sounds clean, crisp and immensely detailed. Is my best description

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@jogmas12 I see, so this unit would have a different sound than their traditional unit.

[@timbre7999]

Excellent review, thank you! What is the music we hear @ 1:22 into the video? My compliments as to your very relaxed and personal style of presentation, it is a pleasure to watch and one can easily imagine what you are describing. Keep well.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, it should be in the description.

[@cunningtim]

I remember when it was the Mission Cyrus One in the 1980s; it was appealing then too.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, they have been around for so long. I never tried products from this company but now I am curious on their higher end products.

[@carywatmore]

Yes the Cyrus one back then was one of the best inexpensive integrated amps out there the other was the Musical Fidelity A1 - but that was a class A toaster that had issues. The more reliable class A amp was/is the Sugden A21

[@TukaSlave]

Yes, my first explorations into hifi were with Cyrus amps and various speakers until the shop guy decided I was taking the piss and asked me to leave. Just like my history with girls. Is audiophilia a registered mental disease, and is it a displacement behaviour to distract from failure in fun with women? I think a study is in order. Sign me up.

[@1968krug]

That’s funny I can relate! Dysfunctional? No, of course not. Honest? Absolutely, courageous too!!

[@LuxAudio389]

Hi Thomas, Today I just purchased the Sopra Center and listined to the Luxman L-590AXII, Roland 925, Bel Canto REF 600M, and a Mark Levinson No 433 on Sopra No2's. I have Sopra No 3's. The Luxman hands down bar none number 1, close number 2 for me was the Bel Canto REF 600M! Since I have a hybrid 2 ch and home theater system the Bel Canto is my compromise The other 2 were good, but not as mind blowing like the Luxman or the Bel Canto which was fresh out of the box! Check out Luxman which features high current. My dealer mentioned high current is just as important as the torque rating in relation to horsepower. I want to add that the DAC was the Aurender A30.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Awesome, thanks for letting me know. I am still waiting for Luxman to send me something and can't wait to try their products!

[@moktaabdul6310]

Luxman, Sanusi are old-school veterans. Premium quality.

[@iampuzzleman282]

Thanks, trying to learn about amps. One thing I hope gets attention and never does is useability of home theater systems. Ie. Switching back and forth between lots of stuff when home theatre is combined with a high end stereo system. I like watching screen when stereo plays, but this is very challenging to do. Marantz avr does it but very restrictive, an audiocontrol processor appears to offer more flexibility but still complex. The horrors of HDMI combining vid and audio, and cec problems we all know about. This is an important issue.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, this is something I think companies should address going forward.

[@sean870523]

I own this unit. When I pair it with my ProAc Tablette 10s, I was never really satisfied. It always sounded a tad thin and lacking in sparkle. When I pair it with my Amphion Argon 3S though, the sound has more presence -- more "meat on the bone" and overall more engaging. Granted my Amphions have larger woofers, but I don't think that has too big an effect on the results. The built-in phone stage, while sounding good, is edged out by my Schiit Mani, which has a better sense of space and sounds more 3D. It's not a gaping difference, but definitely discernible by most people I would think.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Good to know, I just got my hands a schiit Mani, time to try it.

[@sean870523]

Looking forward to your review!

[@mika2oo1]

Thomas, can you please do a review of the NAD c388 d-class amp, especially with the magnepan speakers.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It is not possible to get Magnepan as they don't sent out to reviewers here in Canada.

[@JingoLoBa57]

My Esoteric F05 SE sprung to its life last month, and played arguably the best I’ve ever heard from my system. It was like a freak experience. Tidal. Oppo205SE. To F05 to horn speakers. It was a proud moment.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

wow, looks like a great integrated amp and price seems decent for what it is.

[@JingoLoBa57]

Thomas & Stereo esp buying from HK... 😎

[@nemocacihlas4876]

good morning from London Ontario....I have a first generation cyrus one,I listen mostly to vinyl. My question is, can I hook up a tube preamp to expand sound? Cheers.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yes and no, ideally you would not do that unless the cyrus has AMP in. It will still work but I don't know how it will affect the sound.

[@TheBodhisattvaWisdom]

Plastic maybe, but simple, beautiful amp... I go more and more for the looks of my gear, the older I get.. As long, as it sounds great , ofcourse ;-)

[@manu_le_maboul]

That's why I like paper dome tweeters, they're never fatiguing. Metal tweeters sounds too agressive for my ears, and since I can't hear above 16khz anymore, it's not like I'm missing anything anway :)

[@moktaabdul6310]

I have Sony SSB2ED speakers, SED=super -Extended-defenition SACD, that goes to 70khz. Love them. Me can hear a pin drop. In a live ochestra you will be able to hear instruments that you never knew that it was there. You are missing out.

[@manu_le_maboul]

@@moktaabdul6310 unless you're a bat, you can't hear above 20khz, and that's with brand new ears. Do the test and see how high you can actually hear. I did, and I can't hear anything over 16khz, so no, I'm not missing out.

[@abdulmokta48]

@@manu_le_maboulit's important to recognize that high frequency axial response is not the only contributing factor. Having consistent and smooth power response (ie insignificant amplitude deviations across its radiating bandwidth, 0-180*) will lend itself to an increased level of detail as the free-field response of any monitor (or loudspeaker for that matter) is the vector summation of the axial response as well as all reflecting surfaces. In traditional alignments, high frequency extension is achieved (easy enough with an EQ), but flat power response up to 20khz (even 10khz) is not. Often times, you will be several db down (>10dB) at >60* wrt the distribution of midrange and lower treble energy. Live sound is consistent in its distribution of energy and so should your loudspeakers. If high frequency extension is your goal, may I recommend ribbon transducers by Raal. Although they will require proper integration into your existing studio monitors, you can't just slap them into a setup like you may be able to with a super tweeter.

[@manu_le_maboul]

@@abdulmokta48 high frequency extension isn't my goal, since again, I can't hear anything above 16khz. This having nothing to do with my system, my ears can't hear above that anymore, it declines with age.

[@abdulmokta48]

@@manu_le_maboul have you ever listened to SACD , that's where it helps. I like to know hear and know what's being played in on a music. There are hidden instruments which you can't hear unless you have device that goes over 20khz. Like in orchestra, there are over 40 people with 40 different instruments playing. Some at the front middle side back rear upper front lower front far left basement first floor. , there all over the place. When everyone starts to play, no speakers below 20000khz can pinpoint what instruments are playing. When I listen to music, I want to know the truth. Youve never been in a recording studio, so you won't no? Above 20000khz, you can hear wispers syliva pindrop. I like to analyse the whole music, you don't care what's going into the music and coming out. You're more concerned about vocals. Well the extreme difficult composing music. Voice is just 1 person, vs instruments 40 person. That's where super fine microscopic details come in above 20000khz.

[@kylejohnson1945]

Hey, I see you have some Sim Audio equipment, so I’m sure you know how nice they play. I’ve heard that the Moon I-250 is a amazing value and quite a sleeper in the Moon line up. I am looking at one for another room system. Any of your feed back would be appreciated. Thanks!!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I had the 340i for like a week or 2 and I would say they are quite detailed and has that very clean sound. I think of it as a car in a showroom level kind of 'cleanness'. If that is the kind of sound you are going for, sure.

[@EmilioGarcia-fr5po]

I have a question love the power n sound of krell but have class D pockets. What would you suggest in integrated need advice

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Depends on budget, Sprout 100 or Yamaha WXA50 but I don't think it has the same type of sound as Krell. Class AB sounds fundamentally different than class D as I mentioned in my other videos. You might need to look in class AB direction but I dont know any budget one that does.

[@bilguana11]

Please review the VTV Class D amps.

[@NosTubes58]

I’m a diehard integrated amp | Mini-monitor lover | as it has been since 1979. Do separates sound better indeed!. Not ‘hear ( yes, I spelled it that way on purpose ).

[@kohnfutner9637]

I think I'll not get anymore receivers and start getting integrated amps. BUT I still like my room calibration. If only I knew how to use REW.

[@WelkySchullin]

Hi Thomas can the smoth top end of your vintage speakers be because the tweeters are simply old? I´m currently building custom speakers with one local handy speakerbuilder. He told me after he changed the 5 year old Scan Speak D3004/6600 (it was a demo and heavily used): This was not the first time that the tweeter wasn´t so detailed and let´s say smooth maybe even rolled off after it gets old. This could be the problem of the textile diaphragm when the resin came old and simply can´t be as hard as new one. Really interested in your opinion. Thx for a great work.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yes and no cause everything is relative meaning he does not find the same when he uses his other amps. So if that is true then it should be true with all amps he tried.

[@WelkySchullin]

@@ThomasAndStereo Thx for reply. Looking for the next vid!

[@zoranjovancic9816]

Will you say that the Cyrus one/HD is more superior in overall soundstage compare to the rega Brio

[@dennisliavas4463]

I saw a Pathos amp in the background. Which one is it? Do you have a review video on that one?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It is the Pathos Logos, I have not reviewed it.

[@dennisheadley4408]

I remember the Kef 105's from the eighties. Many though they were the best speakers in the world at that time. Around three thousand dollars as I recall. I couldn't afford them, so had to settle for the 103.2. Good review of the Cyrus. Integrated amps do have advantages.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

The KEF 105 are amazing even for today. I am still impressed with them everytime I hear it. Thanks!

[@FalleNoah]

I am using a PS Audio Sprout100 driving a pair of LS50, compare to Cyrus one HD, will you consider it as an upgrade?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

This is not a straight answer because they sound different. The thing is PS sprout has a lively and thinner sound while this as I mentioned in this video has a less 'forward' presentation. For some, that is gold and it is too bad I don't have a spout in hand else I can do an AB test with a sound demo.

[@clemleg123]

Hey Thomas. Thanks for this. Any recommendation between this one and the Bluesound Powernode 2i?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Well bluesound node 2i is a streamer that has network capability but has no poweramp nor phono. If you want a Cyrus with network streaming, you would need the Cyrus One Cast.

[@clemleg123]

@@ThomasAndStereo the Powernode 2i actually does have an Hypex poweramp module embedded in the chassis (which as a result is slightly thicker than that of the Node 2i). I guess it means you don't have a view 😂👍

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@clemleg123 Oh, I don't know how I missed that. Yes, I am aware of the Powernode 2i as my friend had the Powernode 2 and I can't really comment because I have never heard the Powernode 2i or Hypex modules. Sorry about that.

[@igaldins]

I would try to pair it with ATC11 or ATC19. Could be an interesting match.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Still waiting to get my hands on a pair of ATC.

[@gordyboy01]

Thomas thanks for another very informative review. I am considering a auditioning the Cyrus 6/8 Dac integrated amplifies, have you had the chance to audition these products, if so what were your opinions?, would love you to review these too. I like that you purchase these as integrated amps, and can then can follow an great upgrade path if you want, upgrading the the DAC inside, or add additional separate stereo power amps, or separate mono blocks, and separate power Supplies PSX_R. to power each separate components too.

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

So if you can use this integrated as just a dedicated Pre-amp, will the Cyrus let you turn the amp section off to lower the noise or cross comtamination ? This is one feature that I love about the Audiolab6000a, you can turn the Pre-amp or amp off to use either or as just an amp or just a preamp 😆 Thanks Thomas !

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I don't think so, I don't remember seeing that in the remote app. Thanks for dropping by again!

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

@@ThomasAndStereo Thank you Thomas , For all your hard work and dedication in bringing educational value to audio gear reviews 😃 Your one of the best IMHO . I would like to see you start a Patreon , As much work as you put in helping others out on their Audio Journey , well its time for that help to come back around to you 😃

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 That is nice of you to suggest it. My only concern with Patreon is once I start it, I feel a certain responsibility to my Patreons that I need to consistently upload content. I don't see myself helping others, it is more just a hangout.

[@linmi9472]

great review, I think the deal breaker is the missing of network or stream option. For a second system, streaming is a must for me. It will very interesting to see how it compare to Marantz pm7000N, same price range.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks and that is where the Cyrus ONE CAST comes in. Same thing but with network.

[@linmi9472]

@@ThomasAndStereo I see, but looks like that will be around cad2400, that will bring in Hegel H90 into the game.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@linmi9472 Right, so I guess it comes down to which one sounds better. Class AB vs Hybrid class D.

[@Luq-John-Bro]

Hi thomas..would you do a review comparison between the cyrus One and One HD model? 😊

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Nah, I don't think so. Sorry.

[@robertm8518]

Do you plan on reviewing the Kinki Studio EX-M7 Power Amp?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I don't think so, I did ask them a while ago.

[@janz.3214]

Hey Thomas, do you have any speaker recommendations for the WXA 50?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Something not too hard to drive. We had good success with Klipsch RP8000F but not LSIM 707.

Sorry for interrupting your day, but would you choose Cyrus One HD over PS Audio Sprout 100? You have had an opportunity to use both of these amps and I am wondering which one to choose for myself (Wharfedale Evo 4.2). If you find some time to answer my question I'd be very grateful. Thanks in advance and thank you fot your channel and your insight you share.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

If you find the Evo 4.2 too smooth, the Spout 100 will spice things up. If you enjoy the smoothness and want more, the Cyrus. Keep in mind the Cyrus is a higer end product and that is reflected in the price. With the Sprout 100, you can return it so worth trying. Cyrus, ideally you want to buy somewhere where there is a return policy.

@@ThomasAndStereo Thank you very much. You've helped me a lot! :)

[@m.9243]

It reminds me (in looks) of early Naim amplifiers. It has the same kind of appearance even though the Naim sound is very different from what you're describing Thomas. How then this amp would compete (in sound) with the smallest Hegel amp that, I believe, is similarly priced and offers an inbuild DAC?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

For me, the Hegel is smooth and more polite. Given it is class AB, it has more body in the midrange so it is a completely different sound. I only had try the Hegel H300 and H200 and those cost significantly more than this unit. So the basic sound characteristic is different and should not be really compared. Just that relative to the other class D amps I tried, it felt different.

[@Philo1]

@@ThomasAndStereo Thomas, can you please tell if the Hegel H300 amp will work with Dynaudio speakers like the older (towers) Contour or Focus lines ? Thx

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@Philo1 I am pretty sure it will. The Hegel H200 drove my Compound 2 ok so I would assume the H300 will even be better at 300w.

[@louiekariofillis8516]

Hi Thomas Would this pair well with the Polk reserve 200 speakers? Cheers

[@ThomasAndStereo]

sorry, never heard the Reserve 200 yet.

[@fan3325351]

Hi thomas i've seen complaints online about noise in the background of the cyrus one hd, have you had this problem? would you prefer the cyrus one HD + kef ls50 or the kef ls50 wireless? the price difference between them is not significant! i'm considering buying them for my computer stereo, can you advise me?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I think a few of the class d integrated I have tried has that problem. I don't remember but once the music start, you dont hear it

[@fan3325351]

@@ThomasAndStereo I can't find anywhere to try them, I should have chosen Cyrus an HD + Kef ls50, Cambridge audio cxa81 + kef ls50 or kef ls50 wireless, which confuses me! Anyway... Thank you very much for your reply! Have a great day!

[@johndoe-vb9sm]

Hey Thomas. Great review! Any chance you or Sean can get your hands on a Technics Sug700 for a review. You guys are so popular. I figure you guys could get you hands on one? Only review Ive seen of it, is from Andrew Robisons channel. Thanks

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks. If they reach out to me, I don't have a contact there.

[@johndoe-vb9sm]

Ok cool. I wish they would. Would love your opinion on it. Im always trying to like class d amps. Just cant just yet.

[@johndoe-vb9sm]

Class d amps just arent bright enough yet, from the ones Ive heard. They arent very full sounding either.

[@NiSHAN256]

More like 'Thomas & stories' xD. But I really love them :D

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I should change my channel to Thomas and Friends :)

[@NiSHAN256]

@@ThomasAndStereo lol

[@chilli6565]

Hi Thomas, What power cord do you use with the one hd ?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Cardas

[@scottyo64]

I was thinking this would be good to run my old console. I have a cheap class d running it now but would like something better for it. Phone stage would be perfect! I do have a turntable in it. How heavy is this unit?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It is slightly heavy because of the Toroidal transformer. It depends on your current setup and what you are looking for, would upgrading just the amp not be sufficient?

[@scottyo64]

@@ThomasAndStereo Right now I have a class d integrated with bluetooth strapped on the back. It weighs less than a pound.

[@kayuen6035]

How does this compare with rogue sphinx v3 soundwise. Thanks

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Sorry, never heard the Rogue.

[@michaelmityok1001]

Sphinx V3 is a much better amp but it lacks many of the features of the Cyrus HD.

[@kjbiz]

Hi Thomas like your show. Thanks. I am going to get some wooden stands made for KEF LS50’s as I am limited for supply where I live. Noticed you have some - any tips. Likes/dislikes

[@ThomasAndStereo]

These sandfill stands are from like 20 years ago. BBC stands.

[@andynowy]

Love your reviews Thomas, waiting for fact8's review 🤩 Try parasound halo hint6, i love this amp and would like to hear your opinion. Coctail audio x45 as well.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, yeah I will ask for a Parasound eventually. Cocktail audio, I almost bought one actually.

[@andynowy]

@@ThomasAndStereo i'm pairing CA x45 with hint6 and pmc twenty5 23s and it's a end game for me. So happy with sound. I know it probably can be better but lets say it's a budget end game.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@andynowy Nice, congrats on finding a system you would consider endgame.

[@moktaabdul6310]

@@ThomasAndStereo what happened to the PMC FACT speakers you were meant to review?

[@moktaabdul6310]

@@andynowy I have the 5.23 in gloss black. Flipping l ove those deeeeeeep cabinets. Have a CM9S2 SONY SSB2ED

[@borlach321]

Are you in Canada? Where did you get your hands on this? I thought Cyrus abandoned the North American market? Who is the distributor? I never see their gear anymore. But of course I live in Japan now! lol.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

The distributor? It is in the description and they are back to North America. Yeah, I am in Montreal. Japan? A place I must visit before I die.

[@JosefTreiber]

nice intro! zero fifelity style ; )

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, it has that feel.

[@ericsusanto1394]

Thomas, have you ever tried wharfedale evo 4.4 ? If that's, how you think ?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I did reach out to them asking them to send me a pair, they suggested I review the Wharfedale Elysian instead. I will eventually try the EVO after I try the Elysian.

[@ericsusanto1394]

@@ThomasAndStereo Glad to hear that, i hope you can review wharfedale evo soon. Thanks Thomas.

[@toddhupp]

Interesting music Thomas: what is it?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It is in the description.

[@felixlaboy1453]

Amazing video as always Thomas. Can you recommend where to ordering from.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I think they sell it on Amazon and that is awesome because of the added security.

[@felixlaboy1453]

Thomas & Stereo Thomas thank you very much for the response I know that you’re very busy and you get a lot of questions over the emails I really appreciate your time keep up the amazing work I love to watch your videos

[@felixlaboy1453]

Thomas of topic. I have a old OPPO Sanica DAC that still works great. I was thinking of thanking my IOTAVX PA3 amp and trying to see if it would work as a preamp do you any advice on this. I wanted to setup something simple in my basement.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@felixlaboy1453 You have a PA3 and want to use the Oppo Sonica with it? In theory, it should be fine but really depends on your speaker.

[@felixlaboy1453]

Thomas & Stereo I don’t have speakers for it yet. So I have open options. What do you think would work for this. I’m just doing easy listening and mostly Classical and Jazz. I would like to keep the budget for the speakers at around $1,000 US

[@Megellin]

That seems like something that would be good to hook to my office PC.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yup, that is the intent of this unit. All in one and small.

[@jamesbrotherton5487]

Nice review and that's something I might consider but I believe the AV is an input not an output.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

You are correct! Darn, newbie mistake on my part.

[@shedendpussys]

11:40 Is that a Marantz pm5005? Would be cute to hear your thoughts on such an entry-level product.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yes it is, I was kind of shock at how good it is. That is why I kept it and did not end up selling it.

[@shedendpussys]

@@ThomasAndStereo Probably the highest praise something could get. Anyway, not sure if you've played around with Equalizer APO and the VST plugins you can download (specifically the iZotope ozone suite) but damn, even though it's designed for production mastering you can dramatically transform a listening experience playing around with the settings. Night & day. A must try.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@shedendpussys No I have not. I do have equalizer built-in Jriver already and I use it once in a while.

[@shedendpussys]

@@ThomasAndStereo Thomas, I'm running a pm5005. How much would you estimate I'd have to spend for a 'wow' upgrade?

[@monkeypunker]

Love the cyruss design. But I guess all these all-in-one solutions will need an update, to accomodate the apple airplay. So I’ll wait for .. Cyrus TWO?.

[@eastgreenlander5016]

Wonder how this amp compares with Parasound NewClassic 2. Same features

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Sorry, I never heard Parasound before so no idea.

[@eastgreenlander5016]

Thomas & Stereo . They got a rave review here kzbin.info/www/bejne/np2taXacnp6lfa8

[@trungvang417]

How does compare with peachtree nova 150?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Sorry, I never heard a Peachtree integrated amp before.

[@editorjuno]

In terms of pure amplification, my latest sub-$50 (plus $25-30 for an suitable SMPS) Aiyima A07 Class D power amp outperforms the One HD by miles. Add a decent $100-200 DAC, e.g. the latest from Topping = Done -- at a tiny fraction of the cost. There is zero audible advantage to using a linear vs. a switch mode power supply with a Class D amp as long as both can source the same amount of current with suitably low ripple -- IOW IMO, the "hybrid" approach is mostly marketing balderdash. FWIW, I use my A07 with a pair of slightly modded, somewhat vintage (circa 1990) JBLs.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Hopefully I get to try that Aiyima one day. I don't think it will outperform this One HD by miles but I will not be surprised it performs really well for the price. For example, how does it differ with this ONE HD in terms of top end extension? Or how does it compared if we talk about the muscularity and speed of the bass. What music track was used to evaluate the difference? I have been getting more budget class D amps recently and I know they are great. In fact, I can pinpoint exactly how this One HD compared to the DIY $300 class D poweramp I recently reviewed. In some areas, I have to say the DIY does better but I would not say in every area.

[@editorjuno]

@@ThomasAndStereo -- Fair enough. The little Aiyima beats the One HD "by miles" in the basic, measurable stuff like power and THD+N. I'll leave the subtler factors to subjective reviewers like yourself, but I can testify that to my (admittedly aging) ears it sounds considerably better in every resoect than the two supposedly outstanding Class AB power amps I previously owned, a Kenwood KM-8002 from the 1970s and a classic Nelson Pass designed Adcom GFA-535, both of which were much, much larger and far more expensive in inflation-adjusted $USD..

[@HungryEatNow]

Putting the new mic setup to good use?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Not for this video cause I am filming with my DSLR. I can only use the new mic for voice over, so only good for subscriber's videos.

[@lukaszx5271]

Thomas great video. i realy is like it. D class stands to me as the problem. A few weeks ago i had bought rough sphinx hybrid amp, hoping that my yaqin ms30l will by outperformed, finally. I thought maybe hybrid amp will be some solution to it, to keep tube sound in the system and giving me some transitor features, but Unfortunatly despite the fact that sphinx has the tube pre amplifier- it failed. I am really coming to the conclusion, that, d class is highly non musical. I would realy happy if Yoy make video about that problem and maybe You could review some hybrid amp, like for example sphinx. Regards Lukas

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Well I completely get where you are coming from and the way I explained it in the past is think of it as different kind of food. We have our preferences but we should also learn to enjoy other type of food. It takes getting used to, like eating spicy food for the first time. So I always advice people, when you audition something new, just put away your old gear and spend a few weeks with the new gear and see what the strength of that new gear is, you might discover something unexpected.

[@spunkthecombo]

The only time I have experienced good sound from a Class D amp was when it is used as a subwoofer amplifier. Other than Class D for a subwoofer, I agree with Lukasz. I've owned Bel Canto, Audio Zone and several other Class D amps and have wound up selling them all. I own Class A (AVI, StereoKnight, Pass Labs, ect) and Class A/B (Unison Research, Monarchy, Threshold, Pass Labs, ect). Class A or Class A/B are still the best amplification circuits!

[@matthewchrist9082]

How does it compare to the Billie? Similar price points and both class d

[@ThomasAndStereo]

One of the strength of Billie is that it is quite neutral sounding. This Cyrus definitely have a more muscular presentation. Having said that, if you pair the Billie amp with a good external power amp, it will leave A LOT of systems way behind.

[@matthewchrist9082]

@@ThomasAndStereo ya I remember you saying the preamp section of the Billie rivals ones priced much higher. I was thinking of pairing the xtz edge power amp because they're both class d and both ICe module, but maybe I'll shoot for something highee

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@matthewchrist9082 Yeah, the Billie amp will easily benefit from something higher end. XTZ is good but it will be slightly roll off and just a step up from the internal amp. You want to jump 2 levels when you upgrade.

[@derrick8064]

Well Thomas which power amp would you pair with the Billie amp?

[@nemocacihlas4876]

My first generation cyrus still sounds great....mean little amp.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I read it sounds really different.

[@nemocacihlas4876]

@@ThomasAndStereo cheers from Canada! All the best to you and yours.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Ah I am in Montreal.

[@davidttk]

Sound good with KEF LS50?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It does.

[@kohnfutner9637]

It's a question of how much money do you have and how fast can you get something new? That's always the only question in audio.

[@hagbard72]

Holly cow! That thing is $2k cdn!! Way more than the Crown.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Well Crown is an amp, this is an amp+preamp+dac+blue tooth receiver.

[@MinhTran-ig9om]

Could you do this amplifier please SoundArtist SA-200IA

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, I think this is the one I am receiving for review, should get it in 2 weeks time.

[@MinhTran-ig9om]

@@ThomasAndStereo thanks.

[@lostncal]

I think the NAD D3020 amp falls in the same camp of being non abrasive but still dynamic.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

So the NAD D3020 is non abrassive? My friend had that NAD and his evaluation of it is that it is not even as good as the WXA50 I have here. He seriously AB tested both and he is very experienced. Having said that, I never heard it myself so I can't comment on it. Maybe it was just less to his taste because the WXA50 can be really sharp.

[@igaldins]

What about the Sonus Faber toy behind you? Are the a real speaker or a gimmick? Do you have axperience with Sonus Faber speakers that can play agressive music like Metallica? I think that for live non electronic instruments and vocals Sonus Faber are amazing.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

The Sonus faber toy are pretty decent. I have the full tower too. The bookshelf one needs a sub. I never tried agressive music on any Sonus so I don't know, sorry.

[@crissnickers_frog6689]

i like this,........

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, I like the unit too.

[@hushpuppykl]

Just reviewed the ONE Cast, it does sound great for a Class D. Even the new Parasound NEW Classic 200 Integrated sounds nice. Non abrasive ... that’s a great description. 👍👍 We live in interesting times! Might you be keen to enlighten your viewers why 2 amps that measure as flat as a ruler but can sound very different? 😈

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Great question but I would not be able to answer why 2 amps that measure the same can sound really different. I remember I was chatting with a speaker designer on that and I forgot the reason. Getting old. The ONE cast seems to be quite popular but I think if I review anything from Cyrus, it will be their higher end models.

[@JingoLoBa57]

The best class D still sound like class D Merrill Audio or AGD Acoustics. Class A beats them both and so do well executed class AB. Tubes are a different category again. NAT make some great tube kit as does Audio Note UK. I sold my LM518/845 and prefer my PassLabs XA25. My recently switched on PrimaLuna here in Melbourne using KT120 is very nice too.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Is it Prima Luna EVO series or the older one? My experience with the EVO series it is lacking that 'tubish' sound. Class D, for your level, give Jeff Roland 925 paired with audio research a try one day if you can.

[@JingoLoBa57]

Thomas & Stereo Dialogue Premium integrated 👍

[@rhwinner]

The sound of Class D is entirely dependent on the filters that are applied to the output. (Unfiltered Class D is unlistenable). So, the sound of a Class D is an invention of the people producing the filters. If they have the same preferences as you, it will sound great; if they don't, it won't.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, this is a hybrid so maybe that is why I find it a bit different when compared to the other class D amp I have tried.

[@chebalendra9622]

How this amp compare to moon 240i?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

From my experience with current moon product, they are very very very very very transparent. You see where I am going with that? I had the Moon 340i for a while actually.

[@chebalendra9622]

Thank you, What amp would be step up from Yamaha as801? Speakers are Polk lsim 703.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@chebalendra9622 Depends on your budget, I would say Yamaha AS2200 but that might be overkill for the 703.

[@mladendumancic9520]

hello thomas,i like your channel... and i like your reviews but... you need to upgrade your turntable.. it is weakest point in your system. you need proper tt in order to make justice to analog sound😀

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Sure, I used to have the Marantz TT15 but ever since I broke the stylus by accident, I have stopped using TT, This REGA P3 is my attempt to get back into turntable.

[@anthonyrondolino8148]

Similar price (now $1399), specs & features on the Hegel H90 integrated D class w/ toroidal

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Good price. I like Hegel and have the H200. In this case, I think it is worth looking into Hegel also unless the user absolutely needs bluetooth, a Phono stage and AV out. Well you do get network steaming with Hegel instead of bluetooth.

[@jaybowen2235]

In regards to similar price and features I wonder how this compares to the Billie amp

[@kohnfutner9637]

You should start every video with the price of the unit your reviewing. 70 watts? 😐. I thought the point of class d amps was to get megapower?

[@rileyleclerc7042]

The MiniDSP SHD Power would be an interesting comparison: www.minidsp.com/products/streaming-hd-series/shd-power Or a look at any of the Anthem products! Thomas, as a Canadian reviewer why do think Paradigm and Anthem get no love? Keep up the great work.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I guess the marketing department of those company don't embrace youtube platform? If enough people email them, they will 'get it' that they need to move with the times.

[@GlueeeeGuy]

the bluetooth version is 4.1 y🤔

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It was still pretty ok.

[@GlueeeeGuy]

@@ThomasAndStereo why dont they for this money put 5.0 in, the range is so much better. like Marshall does in his products