Thorin's Thoughts - A Eulogy for swag's Career (CS:GO)

Some thoughts on the career of swag.

[@BlastBinary]

*holds candle*

[@Figurefi]

rest in pepperinjós, my man :DD

[@xM4XvPA1Nx]

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[@MrKingOfNever]

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[@blackjack-bd3jb]

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[@lemonparty6595]

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[@albertgreen1402]

rip swag you will be missed

[@roederlicous]

nah not really

[@DropOut002]

why does everyone say rip it's just one year lmao

[@dull_dawid]

Roeder yup, yes really

[@apet1572]

Rasmus boström has valve changed it? Last it was known it was indefinite..only everyone AFTER IBP got banned for 1 yr.

[@MrKingOfNever]

Rasmus boström Nope indefinite ban

[@themodfather9382]

I love how he always starts out so calm.

[@des6298]

#FreeBrax #FreeSwag #LightACandleForSwag [*]

[@xM4XvPA1Nx]

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[@xM4XvPA1Nx]

Matt Matton I heard lol

[@TacticalBluez]

+Matt Matton The Blue One HES UNBAANED?

[@TacticalBluez]

Matt Matton The Blue One Meet me at VALVE HQ and lets fucking riot m8

[@TacticalBluez]

Matt Matton The Blue One Come over here bro bring the fucking maple syrup will bribe them with dat and duh bacon.

[@AlexB-jx7ll]

Light a candle for swag [*]

[@xM4XvPA1Nx]

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[@hunterneal2597]

+Matt Matton why do u feel the need to comment that 1000 times?

[@svenschukat2958]

Was nice to see you on the faceit stram today!

[@DIXYx3]

Thorin distributing the swag.

[@olgertszile]

#FREESWAG motherfuckers!

[@peLicaNGames]

SMaRk how so?

[@MaRkDiCatiVo]

peLicaN Games He threw for skins just like steel and dazed did.. hes an equal.

[@olgertszile]

ye but he's an upcoming GTR or f0rest for whole NA scene.. everyone makes mistakes.

[@MaRkDiCatiVo]

Oļģerts Zīle There is no excuse for what he did really... he participated he got caught, he got punished. I think the indefinite ban is a little harsh because kqly only got a 2 year ban. But valve had to make an example i suppose.

[@bloxhead100]

SMaRk I honestly don't give any fucks that he manipulated the idiots on csgl to get skins.

[@Kartsah]

"We need more space to nail the next fool martyr" -Tool, Eulogy

[@charliedah]

Thorin, do you think you could do an interview with krimz? I think it would be really interesting considering how he has evolved into this insane player, yet I can't seem to find many interviews with him.

[@TheWP120]

Yeah we don't like to talk about it but Krimz never wants to do any interviews after that awkward handshake.

[@Hjerez17]

FREE BRAX

[@granddd7273]

at the 18:30 mark you could do an entire video on the toxicity of NA scene. Specifically the clashes between semphis + seangares vs DaZeD and also Hiko vs n0thing. these clashes make everything incredibly more difficult than it needs to be.

[@Thooorin]

I will, because it's a trend, unbeknownst to some of those guys, which goes back way beyond their time, from NA players.

[@CaptainSpork1337]

I don't get what's with the toxicity of NA. From watching streams and listening to these guys talk there seems to be so many shitheads in NA compared to the EU scene. I feel like swag, Hiko, and n0thing are the only NA players I can name off the top of my head that aren't shitheads.

[@jonjanjer]

You never saw the German scene :P

[@jonjanjer]

Matt Matton Well, fuck.

[@AceTrainerTroy]

Do a Who is Adren next?

[@Thooorin]

Which one?

[@adrianobrum5903]

Thooorin NA one. Ingame leader and main awper for Liquid

[@AceTrainerTroy]

Thooorin would be cool to kind go into both and talk about which one was better

[@justinizgd]

Adriano Brum daps is the igl, adren actually choose not to call for the team

[@mesavor]

I think the asian AdreN story is much more interesting than the NA one. He's from country that has no background in CS at all like Kazahkstan. He finished 3rd at WCG when he was only 18 !!! and then he developed to be one of the top player in 1.6 scene, definitely the best player from central asia. He's the king of 100+ ping. etc. Damn... Thorin, you should consider to do Who's AdreN (asian one) ?

[@Ziamangry]

Nice vid :D Also, what about team liquid? A video explaining what you think of the players and what they could become would be interesting:D

[@1deagr]

your videos are a lot better when you're not hyped on energy drinks, your points come across a lot better :p

[@whatsittoya5539]

Lol, the name of the ad before the video started was "Catastrophe", seems appropriate for a banned player who had it all as a young teenager.

[@DayyMeeBear]

Semphis Nothing Shroud Hiko Skadoodle

[@the_blxck_sheep]

Literally almost predicts the future

[@SpasmodicGaming]

Sometimes, you have to do something extremely stupid in life, and you're better for it in the end. I hope swag and company come back, and they come back better than they were before. I can't imagine any of them are eager to repeat those mistakes. They can only improve from here. All the best to 'em!

[@Wafftop]

He knew what he was getting into, its not like match fixing is some tabboo activity that is legal in other sports. All the guilty parties involved with that scandal deserve what they got, theres no excuse for tossing matches. Especially if you get a little 1 year ban

[@the_blxck_sheep]

+Waffen11x are u fucking kidding me??? A one year ban u refer to as little. Lol. After the 1 year ban is over NOBODY will sponsor you, a one year ban.

[@flarehd6183]

I think we need an updated Eulogy after valves confirmations

[@DualReaver]

Good video. I'd really love to see you do a "who is" type video for Skadoodle some time.

[@rizzcs6018]

Can't imagine how crushing this must be to a young and uprising player, does he still play CS GO?

[@hackzein4138]

rest sweet prince [*]

[@soupnazy]

nice to see you @Faceit ggwp!

[@Paintballandthings]

I agree, a video analyzing Team Liquid would be cool.

[@YorkiePP]

Sorry if this is a tad late (and a bit nitpicky/irrelevant) but it was kucher, not edward, who played for Astana Dragons. 5:26

[@tgunfail1132]

I agree thats probably the most irrelevent thing I've ever heard

[@Spruce-Moose]

Here you go. Intro: "What is going on guys!!? This is Thooorin and today Imma tell you about bla bla bla.." And outro: " That's all for today, please click the like button if you enjoyed and subscribe - it would mean world to me! And please check out my previous videos if you havent seen them yet! Peace out boyooos!" Thank me later

[@ElementalPride]

What are you on about? This was an interesting video and an enjoyable watch. Not to mention, it's free content, so shut the fuck up and stop bitching.

[@Spruce-Moose]

Also epic dubstep track at the end! Wub Wub Wub!

[@dennisT12345]

The worst idea I have ever heard!

[@randomfaca]

***** Actually, I'd love a LP from Thorin just for the fuck of it XD

[@PabloLaConecta]

No.

[@sc2jolt]

Tarik is gonna be the American super star they need, would bet st karambit slaugher on it, in my mind he seems to have all the qualitys they need but we will see how his big game nerves are at Katowice i guess.

[@MrTreebeard420]

Lmao, im late but AZK is a really good AWPer but when you have a guy like skadoodle who can be a dedicated awper over him, he went to play entry fragger :P Also hes French Canadien, not french french... Hes a Quebecois, like missharvey!

[@TyphoidKitten]

Wow he did that with a straight face. He cold.

[@holdenswanson9256]

who is here in 2017 and knows he's back in competitive

[@allcaps8903]

I don't know why people hate on him for what he wears just stop he really knows what he's talking about so just listen

[@Nerdgazm]

good vid

[@jpbjj5998]

Ive noticed that you recorded it in your old room. do you have 2 houses in separate cities?

[@MrKingOfNever]

He photoshopped himself in just to fuck with your mind

[@moamed2006]

MrKingOfNever Plot Twist: *Photoshop is not for videos*

[@alexmackzie]

Hassan Mohammed he did It frame by frame.

[@NewAgeBusiness]

#FreeSwag

[@vERM1LION]

www.hltv.org/?pageid=247&playerid=5021 swag's first event outside NA in cs-go was dreamhack winter 2012 btw..

[@NegativePaint]

So cold in the house.brrrrrr

[@caspar3386]

Can you make a video about shroud?

[@vvalimaki]

What i would be interested in hearing from you, is what you think is the reason the NA teams are not as good as EU teams. I have always wondered this, it just doesnt make sense to me. You cant blame jet lag or anything anyway...

[@chucknorrisBLOPS]

JuiZyy ~ CS:GO cuz 1.6 died in NA before the rest of the world same with 1.6. so the good NA players had no real competition

[@cvogt12345678]

NA has always been slightly weaker in terms of development compared to the euros for as long as competitive cs has been around. The one time I can think of in terms of my career where I believe the NA scene was at its strongest was CPL 2004. Now for the toxic behavior. That's how it's always been. Going way back to the CAL/CEVO days. And it probably will never change.

[@iseedeafpeople8256]

Someone take a picture of you in the beginning?

[@synkra4836]

What if a new csgo comme out is he still gonna be ban by valve ?

[@quarizzlee]

mTw team was playing csgo the other day on minets stream. Maybe a who is trace video?

[@jonathana4551]

honestly if brax wouldnt have been banned/ thrown he wouldve been one of the best in the world

[@flickflack8107]

Jonathan Albertson i think the ibp team would be on the top

[@HXXPE]

I see you on stream Thorin

[@simianalien5583]

Thorinator!

[@lgjhmovies]

could someone explain to me what matchfixing is?

[@Compufreak]

Google can. Wikipedia can. "In organized sports, match fixing occurs as a match is played to a completely or partially pre-determined result, violating the rules of the game and often the law. " .

[@JoonaKiisseli]

These videos are really good but it's a shame that you don't follow dota scene :(

[@astrocsgo7381]

if only he didn't fall into the peer pressure smh. he was so good

[@alen4835]

you have underestimated Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert who is a legendary player and still is !

[@zriggz13]

Speaking and asking objectively here... you talk about iBP being the team who was good in NA but International couldn't hang but you never bring up any C9 player besides when Swag teamed with them. Hiko is without a doubt one of the best in NA but there is a whole other team you give no credit to in NA but C9 is the team that competes in International play. Other than that, AMAZING video for a great player that we lost...

[@oORrawrrOo]

He doesn't talk about C9 cus this is a video about swag's career and he was never a part of them so.......

[@zriggz13]

Swag was on CompLexity before they were Cloud 9 lol...

[@oORrawrrOo]

yeah and he talked about complexity so.......

[@SanJoseBassDude]

I hope swag gets unbanned after a year he's the only one i believe is actually sincere in his apology and not just trying to save face. As for NA talent, watch EliGe, hes only 17 and for his first couple lans he has been a frag monster, i think in a couple years with more experience he will be on one of the big NA teams and will see more international competition

[@Wafftop]

Is he apologising for doing it, or for being caught? Do you think he would have come clean without being called out on it with a mountain of evidence?

[@124Callum124]

You forgot to say, Swag was the only player playing well on inferno vs Penta when they bombed out after losing 14 rounds in a row or something stupid like that

[@Danixxxxx]

I highly doubt his career is over yet

[@georgejpg]

Seeing as he's 'indefinitely' banned from all Valve sponsored events, and most non-sponsored events too, It's safe to say it's over.

[@sixish]

***** I thought they changed it to a 1-year ban after they defined throwing bans for Epsilon?

[@sixish]

true, Valve are morons

[@Pacifistrapist]

You won't see him for at least 3-4 years.

[@Pacifistrapist]

var1ables Valve aren't controlling CS:GO in the same fashion as they are with Dota 2. Doesn't matter if Valve is willing to let him back into the scene. The rest of the scene won't.

[@bdf-22222]

Swag unban HYPE

[@zanda__]

+Matt Matton I wanna believe

[@OGGrvty]

nope

[@notmethods]

WE NEED TO COOK JESSE

[@mementomikez]

Banning indefinitely is ridiculous. Guys made a mistake, year ban is fair

[@milesbalint6907]

does your place have not like heat or ac? cause i see some videos you are like in a jacket and looking super cold and other vids you are like sweating it looks like..

[@thelovebelow3378]

He lives in Korea and saves money on a heater by wearing coats

[@Thyassasin99]

[*] swag

[@FourThreeZeroSZ]

lgb,clan mystik, coL and some other team (for the katowice group)

[@Chompylol]

8:13 thoorin face :3

[@jacksonbermingham2168]

so thorin are they completely banned forever everything iv seen its shady with the ban for swag and steel.. i think dazed is done and azk

[@skatersridge]

dont need swag as long as we have shroud,skadoodle,hiko on the same team

[@drewsama]

+skatersridge hiko isnt on c9 lol

[@KonnorC]

+skatersridge The only way an American team could have a possibility to win tournaments if they made a super team of hiko, shroud, ska, simple, and tarik

[@audstire]

+konnor cahoona shroud is overrated

[@Flo1093]

+konnor cahoona fucking tarik. what about nitr0?

[@jmanj0sh]

+konnor cahoona no IGL??? I'd have nitr0 an my entry man, JDM as my awper, hiko for my lurker (to clutch of course), s1mple as my support, and seang@res as my IGL. Shroud is overrated as hell, and JDM is a more consistent awper than Ska, his rifling is just awful.

[@lanksey1606]

He wasn't 18, he was 17

[@Telikrows]

@irl wilson ex ibuy players (I.e the ones who were involved in the match fixing including chud and dboorn) are banned indefinitely from valve run majors and cevo + esea banned for 1 year

[@wcpelle]

who is swag? is he yolo?

[@KevinWowCS]

"joined Team Dynamic with adren, AZK, and some other people you guys probably don't know." How rude :( TD was the greatest NA Source team ever

[@Thooorin]

This wasn't in Source and 99.99% of people here have never heard of the players I'm referring to.

[@magic4218]

Thooorin But we do. Kevin Guo and I are the only people that matter, Duncan.

[@phoqueboi]

+Thooorin Is Pex was part of the lineup?

[@mikeshrocazoidabadirgustaf1644]

+Phil pinel i think so

[@ChrisPra7]

who watching in 2017? xd

[@s1mo-RBC]

krzysP still sad about this in 2017. Still haven't seen an NA team with the skills of IBP nor a player as good as swag. I think he could have transcended NA stardom and become a legit star on the world stage.

[@willardv]

Still sad about this in 2020

[@murdergames9684]

RIP :(

[@HostileChickenGaming]

Skadoodle was banned?..what?

[@pchspchs]

No

[@hagooba]

lol i thought this about the swaglord

[@DropOut002]

swag will most likely be back in 2016

[@SuperkolisCool]

***** "It's a hard guess but it's safe to say he's not coming back." Wtf that is one of the most contradicting statements that I have ever read.

[@qap0ne]

#301club

[@aombarbor]

#rektthatass

[@sheneverlookedback]

rip sweg

[@geopolityk1160]

why does thorin always look like he's about to die of some deadly disease

[@andrewrivers4595]

So SWAG can never come back...? So stupid. What if he made an alt ? :D

[@zXCFXz]

Can't he is banned from all valve sponsored events but can play esea and cevo in 2016

[@6eian]

cs_summit 2017

[@ScotchLAD]

3st

[@zissou6928]

nobody gives a fliffpin flip about $wag

[@jasonescobar9475]

NA scene is so fucked ;-;

[@caleb6373]

*An

[@franklinninja5765]

Match fixes and gets 10 grand, gets an ban on pro gaming

[@maxjarmic]

match fixing is illegal and destroys the competitiveness of a game

[@lukas1cs]

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[@mesavor]

Well, Thorin, i think you forgot to mention about iBP performance at ESWC2014 when they got rekt so hard by GuardiaN and friends on de_nuke. That's the first time people recognize them on how bad T-side this team is.

[@KreKeriS911]

First.

[@sudormdashrf]

pls stick to League. You decided to cast league of legends just for the huge amounts of money, now when cs go is just growing and growing you decide to go there instead. Stay with what you picked in the first place and leave this to the casters who aren't in there only for the money.

[@Jonni3h]

I really like his analyses. Not to be mean, but who are you to tell him what to do? D: I mean Thorin is already a legendary analytic in CS:GO :D

[@Nrch666]

yeah just fuck off

[@Pacifistrapist]

Thorin was working with CS before you could use a keyboard.

[@Thooorin]

I was involved in CS:GO content in 2012 :)

[@maxmiller7629]

hahahahahahahahHAHAHAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAH

[@alex-fw1bl]

Russian AdreN > American Adren

[@jimbob926]

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[@locus61]

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[@roxx0n]

blah blah german cheated penta blah, comeon.

[@Maxchillin420]

Thorin is borin

[@yonishussein1322]

#FreeSwag

[@gbrahah]

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[@nkduy1996]

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[@Liskoou]

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[@Rzamortis]

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[@FourThreeZeroSZ]

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[@redpunk9]

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[@joshb6352]

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[@gregaaron89]

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