Thor Helps A Dying Priest To Understand GOD

[@ZealStarMedia]

Priest: “Thor, is there a god?” Thor: “I… have no idea.”

[@John.McMillan]

The only correct answer.

[@asrieldreemurr1210]

There's God

[@emanuelmaldoileacont8253]

Yes,my ass​@@asrieldreemurr1210

[@Scp-682-]

@@asrieldreemurr1210well you half right the equivalent to god in the mcu is the one above all if you count that as god.

[@The_Vaperion]

@@Scp-682-I mean Yahweh is considered “God” since he did make the spirit of vengeances but yeah the one above all is technically the actual GOD

[@TheCombatEditor62]

Ok, I'm Catholic and this brought tears to my eyes. the priest's confusion and doubt was very real, and he dealt with it in a very mature way: instead of suppressing what he saw or angrily denouncing Thor as a demon, he instead asked him what he was and tried to rationalize it. and Thor's interaction of him was very sincere and heartfelt, I love it. I love how Thor didn't deny an answer because he was hiding something, but because he himself was asking the same question. the fact that he's open to the idea of another God existing above him, and is pondering his place in the universe just like the rest of us 'mortals' is all the answer the priest needed, and his honesty to him was so beautiful. I love how, even though Thor doesn't make up his mind about whether he believes in the priest's faith, he still addresses it in a very respectful and heartfelt way. His humility throughout the whole thing really shines through and proves that whatever he is, he means no evil and doesn't want to lead anyone astray or cause them to doubt their own beliefs. It's such an honest and beautiful interaction, and ultimately shows that, whether or not he is a god, Thor ultimately is this man's friend and fellow traveler on the path to eternity, not the end of the path.

[@slappyjo1046]

Hey quick question for a catholic, do you believe that the things your church did in the 15th century are justified or do you believe that it was wrong? Just a question, no hatred.

[@TheCombatEditor62]

@@slappyjo1046 Good question, and well worth asking. no, I don't think the Spanish Inquisition or anything like that were justified. Pope John Paul II actually apologized to the world for that, along with all the other things Catholics have done in the past. The way we see it, these things were clearly sins in the eyes of God, and serve as grim warnings that no matter how holy we think we are, we are not immune to horrible sins and must be careful and vigilant not to fall for such atrocities. even today I still feel some guilt over them, (that and all the other things contemporary Catholics do, such as scandals among our clergy) it sometimes feels like I have to go putting out all the fires that corrupt Catholics start, and I worry a lot about people who are led astray by the bad examples they see. I appreciate your sincerity, and I think it's an important question to ask. We do need to be aware of our past and know where we went wrong so we can make sure it doesn't happen again. thanks for asking.

[@CorbinB-Rax]

He's a Father. He should know the bible repeatedly acknowledges other gods.

[@slappyjo1046]

@@TheCombatEditor62 thanks for responding, I’m part of a non theological church where people just come to hear people speak about God’s lessons for us. I’m not sure how different our Christianities are, but seeing how you responded I’m assuming Catholics aren’t all misguided.

[@Scp-682-]

@@TheCombatEditor62bro you are a goat and a true Christian In my eyes I may not really be Christian but I do still ponder and except the idea that I don’t know if god is real and either answer is fine for me have wonderful day and may god bless you and all your loved one.

[@Sjono]

MCU could never have a moment like this without ruining it with a joke

[@brandocalrissian3294]

the old man would fart or something

[@Cosmicfury100]

@@brandocalrissian3294 OMG I was just thinking he'd probably fart as he died or some stupid shit.

[@rdowg]

After they played Jane Foster's cancer as a joke, I genuinely think you're right.

[@Sjono]

@@rdowg How something like Deadpool 1 can handle the heavy topic of cancer tastefully better than Thor: Ragnorok is beyond me

[@sgtroach1510]

Man y’all straight up cry about everything

[@bandolero7970]

Man, this kind of thing should be in marvel movies.

[@MagnificantSasquatch]

No, too many white men, too patriarchal, too praising of intolerant Christian dogma. (I am being /s personally, but that sadly is the real reasons.)

[@ToonGrin]

Its to esoteric. There's a set of folks who would demand the answer of how so many deities and creation myths can co-mingle and how their existence is a slight against the "one true yada yada". Worse off there is that attitude of "Mine is the real one how dare you say..." then folks get on social media and don't shut up. Which might be a half decent business strategy or just cause more flame wars which we can all agree the world needs less of. An the reality is that there is no satisfying answer. Like the fable of learning the magic trick. Instead watch screaming goat meme lol. 🙄 I tend to like the down to earth angles. I recommend a show called Doom Patrol its a solid show with a bunch of quirky personalities where folks deal with their trauma and trying to mend while also dancing around with silver age style funny book nonsense.

[@bandolero7970]

@@ToonGrin yeah, the majority of the audience would hate something like this... They prefer the fucking goat

[@Yayofangamer16]

No. It speaks good about religious people so no.

[@Teamo86]

Wrong! We need more screaming goats. 🐐

[@memesouls8653]

As a Catholic, seeing characters like Daredevil and Nightcrawler be devout Catholics helps me relate to them on such a spiritual and religious level. Even though they are fictional, it’s nice to know that these fantastical characters uphold the same values and traditions as you do. They hold themselves to the same standard as you which makes their stories feel all the more grounded.

[@TimTheEnchanter0]

Zatarra (DC) is too

[@texaswolf4655]

Especially in the X-men series where Wolverine prayed in a chapel

[@arkking552]

Nightcrawler being a Catholic despite being NIGHTCRAWLER will never not amuse me

[@kifferkang9567]

That sounds hella interesting. Pls tell me more about nightcrawler being a Catholic and how that works out for him

[@sebastianguzman3845]

@@kifferkang9567watch the 90’s x men series. It’ll explain

[@davidandrews2972]

It's a good question. The Marvel Universe superficially looks like ours, but there's super-science, and aliens, and cosmic beings, and magic, and afterlives. It'd be hard for a man of faith to maintain that when so many of these things have actual in-universe proof.

[@porzto]

Or it could reaffirm that faith. God created everything including super science, magic, aliens, and cosmic beings. If God is source of all things, we are witnessing his marvels and miracles

[@animalsmistakenformonsters1492]

@@porztoThat’s just dumb though.

[@adrenaline4323]

@@porzto amen

[@Nomadmandude]

I like to believe Asgardians are the Angels kicked out of heaven and they made their own little faux heaven. Having children and acting like Gods kida like the the ancient Enoch and predeluvian stories.

[@davidandrews2972]

@@Nomadmandude Marvel goes back and forth on this one. Depending on the writer, they're aliens whose technology is indistinguishable from magic, or primal entities at least partly shaped by the beliefs and stories of their worshippers. Angels who'd forgotten their origin is no bad idea, either.

[@Enraged-Gecko]

Thor and Nightcrawler could have some interesting conversations… The God who questions his own existance in a debate with an ordained Catholic priest who looks like the devil.

[@spideybuildscars]

I'd read that comic. It just sounds so interesting

[@libervitaexaltis4551]

You say "god", but it's interesting how the Asgardians don't consider themselves Gods, ie Supreme beings. They are mortal, sentient beings from a higher dimensions. Human beings see them as Gods. They're similar, in the MCU, to beings like the Sandman, Gabriel and Lucifer and even, as we have seen, the Abrahamic god who is shown as a character. It's interesting how, then, none of these beings truly as "god" in the sense we understand it. Because they exist as seperate beings with agendas and beliefs and actions, they must have something over them, or higher than them. Reminds of me a Hindu concept. It's something like "if you can define it, it's not God" Because God in the literal sense is such an incomprehensible, all encompassing thing, that we rarely ever think of God in a true sense. Instead, we give form to Gods. It is likely, (and I say this as a religious man) that every God worshipped by humanity, including the "supreme" gods, are really just very powerful beings. Remember, Zeus was the supreme god once..to people who believe in him. Today we think of him as the "Greek god of Thunder". I know I'm rambling, but this thought fills me, sometimes, with both wonder and lovecraftian dread.

[@Midv1322]

@@libervitaexaltis4551In the comics they are gods. Haven’t read a comic in years but Thor couldn’t die of old age. Becuase he’s half God with a little g on his dad’s side. Half Elder god on his moms side Gaia. If he’s not killed he ages but he will live as long as the universe does. Now in the comics there is a supreme God. A lot of the characters aren’t aware of The one above all though. Not sure if Thors ever met him… maybe. Spidey has a few times. The writers also use him as a metaphor for the writers. Since within that story the writers are God and decide everything.

[@Enraged-Gecko]

@@Midv1322 Asgardians aren’t immortal. They can be killed and the average lifespan is 5000 years. The Aesir periodically consume apples if Idunn to extend their life (in Marvel & Norse myth), but Ragnarok heralds the twilight of the Aesir and the fall of not only Asgard, but all the realms. Ragnarok is a bit different in the comics, though.

[@Midv1322]

@@Enraged-Gecko We aren’t talking about the MCU we are talking about the comics. In the comics Thor is millions of Years old so is a lot of other asgardians but like you said they eat the apples. Thor doesn’t need the apples. In the Comics the Olympians are immortal. Thor in Marvel Comics is the son of Gaia( Not Frigga like the MCu). Gaia is Zues Grandmother. Therefore Thor is Zeus’s uncle and has the same immortality the Olympians have. In the comics Thor will only die if he is killed or the universe ceases to exist.

[@jamessm4401]

I mean just ask Ghost Rider. There is literally the Christian God in Marvel.

[@FrostDJakki3529]

The one above all. It's true.

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

Yeah...but its a FAR different entity than what veggie tales will talk about.

[@natman2939]

@@MrJustonemorevoicenot much. Isn’t there a Lucifer too? Oh wait that’s DC😅

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

@@natman2939 DC has an entire pantheon. Greek gods are apparently real, then we have things like Trigon that might be "the devil" then you straight up have people like Constantine ...

[@johnsayles8032]

​@@MrJustonemorevoicenot to mention Death, Dream and their siblings. And Lucifer himself who decided to open a bar

[@harozuken]

knowing Thor's degree of connection to the afterlife (See him saying high to peter in Valhalla after he dies saving cap in an alternate civil war) I have this warm feeling of imagining him going to visit the old man and asking "did you find the answers you were looking for?" and the old man responding "Ask me tomorrow." There is that genuine degree of knowing something works versus knowing how something works. and a show of genuine humility to say I don't know all the answers but will try my best to find them.

[@AskMarkieMark]

It's things like this that will bring about another Golden Age of comics books. It's time to look at deeper meanings of philosophy in these books now. Time to grow up and realize we're all asking questions...and the thing of it is...there may not be answers after all. The point is to ask the questions to begin with.

[@Meldrick-jv7sy]

That second sentence in your comment is a bit baffling. Since people never stopped doing that.

[@newchangeunlisted_viewer5594]

Whoever was in charge of this writing... Amazing

[@shawnsouth327]

Probably the greatest piece of writing in a Thor comic imo

[@MatthewGoss562]

The author of this story did a masterful job of navigating this question amongst beliefs, myths and mortality. Excellent job.

[@shep9231]

This is who Thor is... This is what he does.

[@lbrett7054]

If only all religious debates went this calmly...

[@libervitaexaltis4551]

Fun reminder that Pagans and Christians once burned and tore apart the entire city of Alexandria and killed innocent people because "muh god is better than your god" The philosopher Hypatia died this way. Depressing.

[@sevenseven7990]

people are often afraid of what they dont understand, personally to me i believe all religions are wrong to some degree and that each part is just a chapter in humanity trying to make sense of something far beyond their grasp of understanding. If there comes a day where i will answer for my belief then it is between me and whatever lays beyond the veil for me. I am at peace with this knowledge and until then i will live my life as myself

[@lbrett7054]

@@sevenseven7990 That's a nice way of seeing things.

[@jovi2149]

@@sevenseven7990Jesus Christ loves you brother, he’s only waiting for you to let him in your life

[@Crozzzbonez0]

​@jovi2149 exactly what I would expect from a christian...

[@Prominent_intellect]

Slap for anyone who still thinks Thor is ab average written character in Marvel Thor is indeed a goat of Marvel universe

[@Winter_Wizard3]

Thor Is everything DC fanboys believe their characters are A GOD Thor Is a God that's trying to be human

[@rommdan2716]

​@@Winter_Wizard3 Thor and Superman would be really good friends

[@antoniewest]

I find it interesting that in the DC Universe, god and the devil exist, while Marvel is more ambiguous about their existence. If Thor were real, it would raise questions about the existence of god.

[@mightytitan8354]

In marvel god yahweh do exist, he is just a skyfather being same as odin and zeus above mortal but bellow cosmic entity the true god of marvel is the one above all

[@tritthompson631]

Watch Thor love and thunder. He points to the god of carpentry but they don't show him because people would be pissed.

[@davidortiz3094]

​@mightytitan8354 The One Above All is the the most powerful being in Marvel. Not theory. Fact.

[@Grey_Shard]

If more comics had this sort of thing, done tastefully and thoughtfully, I would still read them.

[@thebatman7347]

Best definition of faith ever: the magic of the unknown, the wonders of tomorrow. A few years back i walked away from.my catholic beliefs for one thing remained in my mind: the universe is infinite and it cant be as simple as we humans view ir, we create dieties, gods and all powerful being in our image believing evrrything surrounds us... what if we are parts of the surrpundings of something else while at the same time something surrounds us and surrounds other thigs at the same time. What i mean is, i wont limit my faith in the unknown to a religion and its rules just befause its "right", I choose to wonder and believe in the beyond, but also wait to accept the answer that will be given to me when my time for answers come and theres nothing wrong with answering tomorrow

[@yasininn76]

There is no time for answers. We aren't owed the truth, we aren't even owed existence as a concdpt, let alone to understand it. We are here and that's the most we'll ever understand of it all.

[@SarajevoKyoto]

Religion, rules...God desires a relationship. He is waiting to welcome you home frome your wandering, if you will still trust Him.

[@IImthinking]

I just realized how good this would’ve been being the catalyst and driving force behind love and thunder. Thor is just living passenger in his own life after losing his family, not properly feeling asgardian after his homes destruction, not feeling like he belongs as part of the guardians, not feeling like he’s needed as another hero on earth, not even feeling like The god of thunder after finding out he’s no longer the only one that can lift Mjolnir. Then being forced to confront all of this after being asked this by a dying old man, or better yet, a dying Jane trying to find something to believe in and hold onto as her final days approach.

[@jamestown8398]

This is sweet. I liked how, even though Thor doesn’t have the answers, he’s able to comfort the priest by admitting he asked himself the same questions.

[@marcianong2939]

Imagine how freaked out he was when he saw Lady Death come to pick him up.

[@haterade3.029]

Gigity

[@serialdreamer8386]

"AGH, A WOMAN IN A HIGHER UP JOB... man, i hope she doesn't send me by car..." /J

[@johnrobia5460]

These are my favorite stories. Not just struggling against a foe and fighting for justice. But struggling with existence and fighting for perspective.

[@PaulGuy]

These are the best stories Marvel does. The stuff that happens between the fights.

[@davidbethke5463]

"There's only one God, [Father]. And I'm pretty sure He doesn't dress like that."

[@Beloved2342]

I saw this picture of the main marvel heroes with Jesus in the center. He explains how He saved the world with them pondering His sacrifice and Resurrection. So for me, just give me Jesus ✝️🔥❤️

[@hyperraidsaerofrights5649]

Zeus? Pretty sure there are multiple god's next to him also.

[@chaseviking5096]

Who? The chrstian god? Fact is just like his son Jesus and the the rest of christianity, he's a copycat of numerous pagan religions that predate christianity.

[@realanti4537]

@@hyperraidsaerofrights5649 Zeus is pagen imagination so he cant be the true god the true god is beyond imagination

[@SandmanBsB77]

The Dagda and Taranis aren't the only ones.

[@lessonsfromfilms5101]

Ask me tomorrow to a dying man, that's deep, there's a sliver of hope in there somewhere bit still, ask me tomorrow when you have mere moments to live, that would rattle me to my core and make me question my existence too...

[@russbutton9347]

There is a living spirit which connects us to one another. We call it love. The meaning of life is very simple. We are here to learn how to love, and more importantly, how to be loved. Only when we know, right down to the ground, that we are worthy of being loved can we open our hearts and love another. That is the meaning of life.

[@yasininn76]

Actually no, we are here to fuck, reproduce and die. Love is our natural system of finding a mate to have more offsprings with because we chose quality over quantity but still left the door to the latter open. We are animals, love and other social bonds are ways to keep ourselves alive so we can pass genes, nothing more. But nice try

[@KenobiStark1]

I’m sure that the creators of these characters had no idea people would take them to places of great significance and ask questions not usually in comics. It’s real questions, real thoughts, real human fears in this fantasy. I’ve learned a lot from Batman and Spiderman in particular about the human spirit and how to not lose hope.

[@redrasegarden]

This is probably the only time this issue has been brought up. And it was nice.

[@charizardsniper5064]

If you mean in history, no this is probably the millions time. If you mean in day-to-day life, no it’s probably the millionth one, but if you mean in Marvel comics even then no. Marvel comics even made a comic about pope John Paul, the second and his life. Shoot, daredevil and nightcrawler are good examples too, and they do get into it. We can take gods and goddesses from different cultures and ancient civilizations and turn them into superheroes and do what we want with them, but it seems that when it comes to God……. He’s not just a character but something more. When you read about gods and goddesses, they sound like the villains and superheroes of the comics we read, but when you read about God, it’s just so different.

[@redrasegarden]

@@charizardsniper5064 I suppose I should specify. I can’t remember a time in marvel or dc where someone questioned monotheism

[@RClipsGaming101]

​@@charizardsniper5064 Have you considered that maybe, that is exactly what makes him God? Like, think about it. Of all the religions of the world, the real world I mean, we have this one religion, where the singular God, chooses to sacrifice his only Son as a ransom for many so that anyone who believes in him will be able to have an eternal afterlife should they choose to believe in him. Meanwhile, we have these many other religions where the "gods" go on these great quests and fight giant monsters and represent many different aspects of human society. And in some cases these religions only have a Hell and no hevean. And in other cases, you simply disappear when you die. Or in other cases, you get endlessly cycled through life till you eventually achieve eternal life by doing some deed. See? Like, another good thing to note is the perspective that the Bible has on humans and their place in the spiritual hierarchy. I think, that no matter what you believe in this world, realistically, we can all at least observe that humans are not and have not been good throughout our collective history as a whole. Now yes, there have been good people throughout that, but often, they still did bad things. Even if they simply made a grave error. And, for all intents and purposes, Christianity and a few other Faith's are some of the only ones to address this aspect of human society. Now in the cases of the faith's they address it by offering a punishment after death, the same could be true of the Gospel before Jesus. But in the case of Christianity, it is presented as "we as humans deserve to be punished, but because God loves EVERYONE he decided to make it so that we can live in eternal bliss if we simply choose to put our Faith in him, and him alone." I look at it this way, all these other pagan faiths have God's that DEMAND that they are worshipped and seen as gods. But in the case of Christianity, as far as I know, this is the ONLY God that doesn't DEMAND worship but rather ASKS for you to believe in him. And even still, he decided to have his son take the punishment for the whole WOLRD's sins, just so that those of us that CHOOSE to believe get to go to hevean. And for those that don't he still loves them anyway. That, to me, is what makes him truly God. Because for all the gods and goddesses out there that claim there gods created the earth. Isn't it a bit strange that most of those gods seemed to only create us as either slaves or as an answer to some great ancient evil? But with the Christian God, he simply created us so that there would be joy, happiness, sadness etc. Life. Not as servants. And what does he choose to do? He chooses to give us ALL a path to eternal life should we choose to take it, in the form of his OWN. SON. How much love must one have for them to give up the thing most dear to them, for the good of many? If we all have a purpose and a place on this Earth, then to me it makes that it comes from a God that chooses to love EVERYONE and not just the select few that worship him. Otherwise, we come from a series of random chances that when you think about it even a little bit, makes no sense because of how well and finely tuned this world truly is. And honestly, I find it ironic in a sense that some people don't at least think about this aspect of our world. Because even Scientists and Physicists, who basically spend there whole lives trying to answer this very question with probable observations, have outright ADMITTED that the world is simply to well adjust for it to have not been made by some higher power. And, I think that says the most about how illogical the idea of there being NO God is. It's not stupid, and you don't have to agree with it, it just doesn't make much sense when you really think about it. And it leaves you with more questions than it answers. So anyways, that's my little rationale for why I think Jesus is truly the real God. I know it's probably not fool proof and there probably plenty of counterpoints that poke holes in it. But I think it holds more merit than the world would give it credit for. Anyways, all that aside, God loves us all, and though we may not agree on WHO God is, I just want to end this by saying, God Bless everyone. Have a wonderful day.

[@John.McMillan]

​@@charizardsniper5064 "But when you read about God, it's just so different" My man, NEVER read Old Testament then. That was the "Casually annihilate an entire peaceful civilization for shits and giggles" God. Also obviously the original comment was talking about the comics.

[@cartwrightworm1317]

In Sensational Spider-Man vol. 2 #40 Peter meets The One Above All.

[@cristobalgaleana1507]

The one above all just spectating this with some popcorn on hand

[@Tecnofanbooy]

he is not the religious GOD in the marvel universe.

[@cristobalgaleana1507]

@@Tecnofanbooy but he is the creator of all living and undead creatures in Marvel universe

[@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer]

When Thor said "ask me tomorrow" I thought that either Thor was going to give a message to a Valkyrie to give the priest in Valhala or the potion was going to heal him

[@bignick2k215]

What a beautiful story. This is something that the MCU would never be able to pull off, without adding an annoying amount of humor to it.

[@FourthMan82]

I wish comics in general - not just Marvel - could grasp the fact that we - the readers - just want good stories. And this? This was one of the most impactful stories I've ever read in this format. They did not need to make long or about some world ending threat, and yet it managed to touch me not only emotionally but intellectually as well. To me this is one of the most memorable Marvel stories ever.

[@therando1165]

Passing on, not knowing whether or not there is truly something out there after death has got to be the most terrifying feeling of all.

[@joethestrat]

Having drowned and been brought back, I can tell before it all faded to black and there's a massive sense of panic, until there's not. The panic isn't from drowning, either. That came first. Next, came the even stronger panic of being before a giant nothing and heading that way.

[@DarkNobleSon]

That was beautiful. Faith demands a heavy toll… but once rendered over, you’ll find greater peace than most ever will. Amen. Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah. Christ has come. Christ has Risen. Christ will come again.

[@KnightsOfCamelore]

That was beyond words. I might just tear up from how beautiful that was. ❤

[@mudshrooze]

Nightcrawler, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, Ben Grimm, Hellboy, Thor need to have a 10 part comic. Ps the Asgardians were still created by God in marvel. The biblical God exists in marvel even if modern writers amd audence pretend it doesnt

[@ThanosDestroyeryearsago]

The Biblical God exists yeah, but he’s not the most powerful in the verse.

[@joshualopez9175]

He is. Comics obviously don’t go into these aspects though

[@joshualopez9175]

Cause comics are fiction. God is of reality

[@KwabzModding]

​@@ThanosDestroyeryearsagohe's called the One above all so he is.

[@zero0cash]

@@joshualopez9175 i'm sorry but thats is wrong. In Marvel the biblical God is Yahweh and he is one of the numerous Skyfathers of Earth's pantheons, being the Cosmic figurehead of the three Abrahamic religion. He is the creator of the dimension known as Heaven and the father of the beings called Angels. The One Above All is most likly the writers/artists. The One-Above-All is the supreme ruler of the Marvel Multiverse and cannot be defeated. The One-Above-All has appeared in various forms, including as Jack Kirby, the co-creator of Marvel comics.and The One Above All's weapon is a pencil that could manipulate reality. The organization Gorgon found a "rock" (actually the tip of God's pencil), called it the "Protolith," and attempted to use it to rewrite reality but was thwarted when Deadpool notified the One Above All. marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Yahweh_(Earth-616) marvel.fandom.com/wiki/One_Above_All_(Multiverse)

[@bernardmclinney4614]

Trying to make sense of thors story: there is magic in having faith in what you believe in. Being comfortable in it brings magic, and questioning the magic behinds it, although brings understanding of what it is looses the magic . Because in the end, what is faith if not to believe, and what is magic if there isnt any magic to believe in?

[@ahsokahaney]

Thank you for narrating this comic, this was very interesting and good to hear

[@jozsefbustamante2466]

The real question is who replaced everyone in these comic panels with lovecraftian fish people?

[@blackc1479]

That is a pretty janky art style. Thor looks like a flat faced toddler in half of the shots

[@Animalover205]

And this is one of the reasons why I love Thor, because he isn’t just a hammer wielding muscle bound idiot, he is clever and contemplates questions when they are asked of him.

[@LosZavion]

Halkgirl from JLU, said that she doesn't believe in God (heavily implied) when Grundy was dying. I'm like, how could you not? You've fought against Darkseid before. FFS. Sups, GL, WW and MAN, had to take care of a demon baby when the group got turned into kids.

[@jonathanathor117]

I think it's more less not believing that gods are fake and religion is a sham and more so that while gods exist, that doesn't mean you or we or me have to follow them and whatever religion. It's like a middle ground between atheism and misotheism

[@thorgeist]

Smh, this was beyond beautiful writing. This is peak right here. “Ask me tomorrow.”

[@ryancarter1080]

I know in the DC universe God or the Presence does exist as does Heaven, hell Lucifer, Michael and the rest but I have no idea about the Marvel Universe.

[@davidandrews2972]

The top of the cosmic tree that we know of is the One above All, who exists outside the multiverse and predates it and its predecessors. It's been hinted at that even he may not be the final top, but simply as high as it's possible for beings within the multiverse to know.

@@davidandrews2972 the only "thing" above TOAA is Marvel itself and the writers.

[@davidandrews2972]

That was, very faintly, the implication.

[@GeoDeathDeathGeo]

@@davidandrews2972 Wasn't the one above all a representation of Jack Kirby, and considered a stand in for the writing teams?

[@davidandrews2972]

@@GeoDeathDeathGeo Traditionally he's been shown that way, yes, in brief cameos. In the recent past though he's been more involved - in the Immortal Hulk, and in one of the Thanos books - which I suspect is what's prompted the suggestion of a hierarchy beyond even him.

[@moro2485]

Now this is good writing. Why are stories like this becoming so much harder to find?

[@Tecnofanbooy]

they are more interested in power scaling and gender politics

[@tannersummerville1834]

Steve Rodgers: meets a god, still a Christian Tony Stark: meets a god, still an atheist Thor, God of Thunder: converts to Roman Catholicism

[@surendirenparthasarathy9087]

Was thor baptized and accept jesus as savior.

[@gameguy-fk9hf]

​@@surendirenparthasarathy9087e Why the fuck would he do that hes literaly a god

[@Hakar17]

​@@surendirenparthasarathy9087No but that would be hilarious 😂😂

[@Iwhoremain]

I think Tony don't give a damn about god

[@masterpython]

Is there a Marvel Jesus?

[@shealupkes]

Can you imagine how awesome it would have been if they put this guy in love and thunder? Thor did fight dark elves in the mcu at some point, and it would have had significance to both gorr and jane

[@Iliadic]

The MCU could never. They wanted to up the comedy in Love And Thunder, and this wouldn't be possible in an MCU-ified "comedic" film.

[@tannermccollum7060]

Seeing Thor comfort the priest shows that he cares about the people of Midgard. Just as he does in the Eddas. ⚡🔨

[@duaynecollins9994]

This was deep. Like really deep. None of us have the answer. We never will, until death. And after we learn, we can never tell those who still ask. It’s funny in an away. We spend our lives asking why, how, what, when, and where… but in the end, we will never know the truth in this life. Either there is an afterlife or there isn’t. Either a supreme being created everything or it was all a series of random accidents that created life. We will never know, that’s the only truth in this life.

[@armynurseboy]

That's why it's called "faith."

[@robertkreutzer4107]

good writing. such a rare thing.

[@freyathedragon899]

Marvel Comics: (deep discussion) Marvel Movie: “What the sigma whoa well that just happened”

[@YoBen100]

There was a nun who had similar questions but decided to risk it all when talking to Thor.

[@MSDarkspyro]

That was really thought provoking

[@theloniousMac]

If I were Thor, I'd go to the land of the dead and see if the Priest is there.

[@Dayhawk101]

Allow me to a answer you old man. The One Above All is God for you. There done and out.

[@AskMarkieMark]

And only Peter Parker has met him....because he needed him "above all" at the time.

[@SpiffyYuh]

the one above all isnt God, there is already a character in the verse with the name of the Father, which I think is wrong but who am I to say.

[@SpamorammA]

Yunno, I know youre referring to the character, but that statement there out of context is rather profound actually. The one above all is god for you. Its such a simple answer to conflicts over belief. The fighting of others belief only proves a lingering doubt in your own. Accept that the one you feel watches you is above all and be at peace.

[@GeoDeathDeathGeo]

@@SpiffyYuh The one above all as far as i know with limited knowledge, was the one who created the marvel universe. He created the Firmament (1st Universe) and the Living Tribunal, and after the Firmaments essence created the marvel multiverse the beings within created humanity. So in marvel logic The one above all is the creator God or True God of the Marvel Universe.

[@SpiffyYuh]

@@GeoDeathDeathGeo in a sense, but not at the same ya kno?

[@harveyhams1572]

❤ Great answer to the Great mystery.

[@captaindoom1]

These are the things marvel AND dc are missing that can make their films whole.

[@sircrimsonwolf7492]

Due to a lot of conflicting beliefs in real life, there’s probably not going to be a full answer to the age old question even in a story, but the question does draw out many things wisdom contemplation, everything and nothing The question itself may seem like nothing, but it is almost like art or poetry in it’s simplicity, endless is its inspiration boundless are its effects, immeasurable in its complexity, timeless as it is past throughout all generations of time by every civilization.

[@nightwing5177]

Wow! Very Nice, the best I seen. Thank you. God Bless you.😇

[@wolftal1178]

Thor really was worthy of his power, he possessed kindness and wisdom.

[@maximiliano_molina]

Ironically enough in god of war ragnarok, odin who i might add is an aesir god, yet even he admits that gods don't have all the answers

[@evanrutledge-sz4yo]

Priest: “God?l Thor: “Not the one you were expecting, but yeah.”

[@guyjackson1839]

There are things in this world and outside of this world that humans will never be able to fully comprehend and that’s perfectly fine But if you just leave it at that without trying to push even further You will die, wondering

[@tylerolsen1643]

I can't help but imagine the Priest showing up in a Norse afterlife after Thor preforms the last rites.

[@KingOfSciliy]

SInce he did not die in battle, but he lived "righteously" he would probably go to Gimlé in Álfheimr

[@jd3907]

You mean, "A Dying Priest humbles Thor, giving perspective to his Godhood"

[@omnipresentl1316]

No 😑

[@mickyzombie9741]

I'm an Atheist, but I really like this comic. Amazing recap!!

[@titus2120]

This is like the Mevel works of the early ‘60’s. Well done, Marvel. Well don indeed….

[@TheSeptacle]

Father: “I need answers!” Thor: “Some weird writers got high, I dunno what to tell you man”

[@321lionheart8]

Yep

[@Dreamfox-df6bg]

Good story, but there is a very interesting part in the bible: 'Thou shalt have no other gods before me.' So there are other gods.

[@hugocavalcante4799]

I think in this specific scenario, the context means not to put any other gods, existent or not, before/above Him, as they aren't able to provide the real peace ,love and truth that we as humans need

[@MbahMu9829]

I was hoping that Thor reveal himself as jesus in disguise all along

[@steelb2880]

This comic just hit me .

[@DonDraper8288]

Brilliant writing.

[@muhammadhabibieamiro3639]

This give me chills like wow

[@paganavenger8920]

I do have to admit this a pretty interesting concept.

[@YoniAber-k7x]

I like this comic instead of usual superhero stuff it’s about a random person just living life in the marvel universe cause like what is it like for a Christian or atheist or any random normal person to just live in the marvel universe

[@82dorrin]

Why can't comics be like this anymore?

[@oscardanny228]

Wow firts history of Thor I know (besides seen him on The Avengers or mentioned in other comics) and Its already my favorite, thanks

[@kirgan1000]

They did do a comic Thor lord of Earth, then Thor take over after Odins death, and the other gods of Earth invite him to join them, they have a very hands of approach toward Earth. Thor disagree, and declare himself as a god on Earth, and get worshipers and start to do miracle, like resurrect the dead... you can imaged what religious strife and crises of fate that create, Thor try to do good, but do more harm then good, and in the end realize the hands of approach is the best way, he travel back in time, and give himself the knowledge and the humility, so he do not declare himself a god on Earth.

[@charmgman0118]

Wonder Woman needs a story like this.

[@WI_Wanderer]

I appreciate the concept of Thor going theough this. Would love to see it on screen.

[@Tecnofanbooy]

Never going to happen, and i mean like ever

[@MANESHARK]

What's hilarious is he asked the wrong person. He SHOULD have asked Howard the Duck.

[@krisscanlon4051]

Whew this was heavy in the best of ways...i love this type of thing.

[@thepro9417]

Thor: what do you want to understand about me?!

[@hillbillyhippipe]

hello there thank you very much for the reading❤

[@SandmanBsB77]

In Marvel exists the One Above All, wich this story shows that the Thor never crossed Him till these day. Marvelous story, I had to say

[@Tecnofanbooy]

TOAA is not a GOD in religion sense in the marvel universe. he is just the embodiment of the writers.

[@rsacar217]

We need a Thor show. Whether it's a linear time-line or not, we need one.

[@destructo2300]

I always think its self actualization, I think that all religions are equally true.Just depends on your faith.What happens when you die it's solely up to you.

[@zack9697]

Honestly i could imagine the MCU in the past being able to nail a scene like that, but now they only have their jokes, before they were able to balance them, but now it is impossible.

[@shriksemorlumi3229]

I miss old mcu

[@shadowpoet4398]

Thor doesn't know. He's just as lost and vulnerable as the old priest, but he also doesn't have the heart to tell him that he doesn't know. All he knows is there's something else after.

[@Tecnofanbooy]

He literally told him in this very story.

[@Winter_Wizard3]

"mArvEl aRe huManS tRyinG to bE gOdS" Marvel:

[@Tecnofanbooy]

that nonsense statement has been debunked to hell and back. infact when you actually look at properly, you will find out that reverse is the case.

[@coreytaylor5386]

to be fair, you cant just walk around calling yourself a god and then be shocked when you cause a crisis of faiths to those who worshiped a different god

[@Dovah21]

I'm a practicing heathen of the Norse variety. There is a riddle in my faith that goes, paraphrastically: "What god does Odin worship?" It's my opinion that it's not a question meant to be answered, it's more akin to a Zen koan, such as "What is the sound of one hand clapping?" We're not meant to know the answer, because the question itself is the whole point. It's to stimulate contemplation, and at the end of that contemplation is the realization that an answer to that question is, ultimately, unimportant. Pagans like me don't hold the notion that our gods have "all the answers". They have many, but not all. Odin himself sought as hard and as long as he did specifically because he did not. They're on a journey just like we are.

[@charzanboo9940]

Priest: “Thor, is there a god?” Thor: “Yes, it is me.”

[@TwoPaw-Shapurr]

Wait... Isn't Thor aware of the one above all? He had the answer...he could have given it 👀

[@Tecnofanbooy]

except that TOAA is not God in a religious sense.

[@TwoPaw-Shapurr]

@@Tecnofanbooy He is within the marvel multiverse to those that are aware of him 👀 Even Catholic priests within the marvel multiverse still exist in a world there there are thunder gods..... Just like this whole video is about. Yes he may be a Christian priest.... But he is a Christian priest within the marvel multiverse. And he asked for an answer to how he is supposed to deal with his faith in a christian god when there is a literal Norse thunder god standing in front of him. Thor could have started with exactly the way he did, " You will have to accept what I am about to tell you...." And instead of giving the answer he did, he should have said, " there is a supreme being that is the ultimate god of our known multiverse. This being is known as the one. Above all. He is the literal creator of all and everything. As guardians are gods but we too have gods. And the god above all others is The one above all. I am sorry that this is not the answer you wished for and I'm sorry if it doesn't satisfy you. But I promise you and answer to the purpose of your existence...... I Thor, god of thunder will not lie to you. Now I have given you your answer."

[@Tecnofanbooy]

@@TwoPaw-Shapurr which part of my comment do you not understand?? these gods sees TOAA as just another cosmic power house like the living tribunal or the beyonder. they don't view him as GOD. and frankly speaking, neither does marvel itself. TOAA is viewed as the representation of the writer. not as a biblical GOD. marvel literally has a character called Yahweh. who is a skyfather just like Odin and zeus.

[@TwoPaw-Shapurr]

@@Tecnofanbooy which part of my response do you not understand?? His question is, " how am I supposed to deal with my faith in God and that god being the one and only God ...with the literal Norse god of thunder in front of me?" Thor's answer should have been along the lines of, " I'd hate to break it to you, but even if you're God exists... Obviously he is not the one and only God. In fact, there is the one above all Who is the supreme ultimate being and creator of our multiverse." The point being is.... THE PRIEST'S QUESTION WASN'T ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF A BIBLICAL GOD!!! His question specifically was, " how am I supposed to deal with my faith that the god I chose is the one and only God.... When here you are the Norse god of thunder standing before me." And since you don't have the intellect to understand my response, I will state it more simply. Thor himself is aware of the one above all.... He may not know or understand exactly what or who the one above all is.... But he is aware of the one above all's existence and knows he is the ultimate being of his multiverse. Therefore, in response to the priest question.... Which is how does he deal with his faith in that his chosen God is the one and only god, when the literal Norse god of thunder is standing before him.... He could have answered his question the first time by telling the priest EXACTLY HOW EVERYTHING IS AND INFORMED HIM OF THE ONE ABOVE ALL WHO CREATED EVERYTHING! So instead of giving a snippy remark and attitude..... FIRST READ WHAT THE PRIEST'S ACTUAL QUESTION WAS

[@Tecnofanbooy]

@@TwoPaw-Shapurr since you don't have the intellect to understand my answer" 😂😂😂😂😂😂. says the guy that literally misconstrued a question in a comics he never read just to create his own narrative 😂😂😂. dude he's a PRIEST, he's literally asking asking about the biblical GOD. even someone with shortages of brain cells like you should be able to grasp that. like jeez, if he isn't talking about biblical GOD when a pagan god is literally sitting right next to him then who the hell is he talking about then?? i guess common sense isn't common after all.

[@neopy1578]

"Don't take forever." (Thor takes forever)

[@yasininn76]

0:39 "Thor standing there with a mighty presence" Meanwhile Thor, looking like a confused shriveled testicle baby: ._.

[@msp1925]

The only answer, there is always a higher being.

[@johnnyonthespot1665]

The truth of God is knowable...it requires an open, humble heart and a willing mind, but He is no respecter of persons, he will answer, and you will know the truth of God himself.

[@antixblast7772]

One hand this is a deep dispaly on fear and faith. On the other hand Thor is a troll who kept saying "ask me tmr" and when it finally came his answer was "i dont have a clue either"

[@gamernickcentral]

Maybe details were left out due to this being an abridged recap, but that priest looks like he had a very rough 4 years.

[@TSNeph]

Oddly, Loki is the better one to ask. God of Stories Loki, not the other Lokis. He spelled out how gods work in marvel pretty well right before secret wars. Also the Dr. Strange from just recently where Bats and Mordo escape from the mirror.

[@johnschnakenberg6738]

I would pay top dollar to go see a “ Christ in Marvel” documentary about Stanley’s life