Thorin's Side - Dune: Unravelling the Golden Series (Influences/Books)

[@Shadoww2309]

This video made me start reading the Dune series back a while ago. I just started God Emperor, and I have to say that so far this has been one of my favourite series ever. Just wanted to drop a thank you, for pointing the spotlight on these books!

[@TuomioK]

I just finished god emperor and it was amazing. I also just dropped thanks for this video and this video made me read it as it did you! So cool.

[@TuomioK]

So finally I've read the series up to God Emperor of Dune. I literally just set it aside before I returned to this video. I watched this video when it came out and since then I had decided I would read Dune some day. I bought the first one this spring and as I was reading it I just decided to order the rest five of them. I am very thankful and glad that Thorin shared this because I feel like it prepared me so well into the series "boring" and "tideus" parts. At this point I don't feel it was any struggle to read any of it. Also watching this now prepares me for the last two books which apparently are again different. Great about this video is also that it doesn't spoil anything at all but it surely made me wanna read the books. Thank you Thorin.

[@umiluv]

Dune is an amazing series. I read through God Emperor of Dune and stopped there. It sounds like I should reread the books again and continue with the series. God Emperor of Dune was fucking crazy but philosophically amazing. I completely agree with you Thoorin.

[@AdAstraMadCat]

I would genuinely like version of this video with spoilers, just to see what parts and ideas in particular were most appealing to you, Thorin. Gliding on surface is unlike you!

[@mmpdj5654]

Agreed. I've personally read the first few books since watching this video and am really eager to compare insights and perspectives from each of the novels.

[@nathanchin2483]

Love this channel and variety of topics that are covered. Love the barrage of recommendations and your defenses of them as well, even if I choose not to go forward with it the discussion is interesting.

[@peerreview8970]

Dune is a wonderful series. While I can agree it may possibly be the best set of novels in it's genre; there is another series that I've always enjoyed just a little more. That series being ‎Frederik Pohl's Gateway series, also known as the Heechee Saga. This was the set of books that really jump started my mind, and helped me to start using my critical faculties in ways I had previously not imagined. It was also the final piece of the puzzle required to consolidate my now lifelong love affair with the cosmos, and the nature of space and time. As far as literature goes, I don't think many would deny that Frank Herbert is a better author than Pohl. Nevertheless, even Dune, a series which also holds such a cherished place in my memories (and always invokes a smile when remembered) can overthrow Gateway as my favorite Science Fiction novel. Anyone who has never read either of these needs to rectify that. I've yet to meet anyone who tried that was left unfulfilled.

[@timur7381]

Huh, Heretics is where I dropped off years back. Maybe I was too young to appreciate it fully. I'll get back to the series, looking forward to reading it all again)

[@DieSchlachtfeldler]

Since you made a video about the Kindle why not make a "top 10/5/whatever books" or "must read books" or something like that?

[@benturner3548]

Without wanting to speak for him, he's said in the past he doesn't like doing lists like that and will only do "books I'm thinking about right now that are good" lists.

[@kadji_]

BallsToTheWall he's done a short book list before here: www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1rx8sz/i_am_thorin_creator_of_the_grilled_interview/cds109b

[@CatnamedMittens]

A reading list would be cool.

[@MasterLapin]

I read the first book of the series last year and this video really made me want to read the rest

[@CatnamedMittens]

Denis Villanueve is making a Dune movie. I'm so fucking stoked.

[@Nathan-hs2ut]

Just ordered Dune (#1), can't wait to get started

[@JoeSmith-fw8ix]

Damn, Dune was an amazing series... now I have to read them again.

[@brownbeehiv]

This video is so well time for me. Just finished reading Sophie's World and was looking for another book to read. This made me remember that my humanities teacher suggested rereading Dune after college to see how my perspective changed from my early teen years. I also agree with God Emperor of Dune being the best and my favorite thing about the book is Leto II.

[@FITZFACTOR]

Thanks mate, I loved the first Dune book but was originally turned off from the second. Most people I asked said that was fine and the first was good as a standalone novel. I'll take your advice though and plow forward.

[@alexm2134]

Fear is the mind-killer

[@Summersovergrowup]

45 second ad that i can't skip? THIS IS WHAT MAKES ME TURN TO ADBLOCK

[@eyemjp1991]

got me downloading this dune series now. the Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan has similar themes to what you were describing and has a very unique feel to the universe its set in

[@GrandOperational]

FUCKING A I'm excited for this video. Favorite book series ever, just reading those books will give you an increased confidence in your ability to perceive patterns and extract information from them.

[@GrandOperational]

SPOILERS: One of the most prescient concepts I think is in the second book; the attitude of the Fremen after conquest: wanting to return to an era of honor and simplicity that no longer exists and cannot be recalled. It's effectively the Trump camp in a nutshell.

[@matheus.bueno47]

Watching this after the trailer for the Dune movie. Fingers crossed, hope it will be good.

[@derekgreen7319]

Youve sold me on dune. Ive been on the fence about reading it.

[@TheElectriczil]

Want to read this book now

[@TinusPieters]

Can confirm that the Dune series is amazing, a must read for sci-fi fans

[@McBoomPow]

Thorin, you should start a book club about the Dune series. Would love to hear what some fans would have to say about my favourite sci-fi series.

[@karmA2q]

Dune is the best series of books ever. Strangely relevant in these trying times we are going through in the world now.

[@ColonelTheSlav]

The first book felt like whenever Frank wrote himself into a corner he invented another secret Bene Gesserit technique for Paul to use in order to solve the problem.

[@kadji_]

Hey Thorin, I recall you recently mentioning meditation in your gfuel video. I was wondering where you learned it from well as what you get out of the practice.

[@Ba_Ado_Mushroom]

Great video Thank you 🙏

[@PixelKatana]

It’d be great if you ever decide to make a video on what your interpretation of the ending is.

[@MrDeathyness]

I read the first book from the Dune series and really liked it, are the audio books any good?

[@jackel11235]

I fucking LOVE Dune. God Emperor had such an impact on me throughout my life.

[@BoorishM]

Great to revisit this video after watching the Dune 2021 movie. Would love to hear your review of it.

[@JohnDoe-uc5iu]

thank you for telling me to read these books

[@SpecSlayer]

What do you think about Isaac Asimov and his Foundation series?

[@horst29]

This was very fascinating, I just read the first book and wanted to see if Thorin made video on dune. Of course he did lol.

[@horst29]

Just finished Children of Dune and I am so excited to start God Emperor!

[@Hooivork1987]

Great series, i'd recommend them to anyone After i read the 6 books ( i mean like 5k pages in small lettering) i immediatly read it again. After watching this, a few years later i want to read them again. xD

[@MrCreativeEgo]

Hi, Thorin. I was just reading that Denis Villeneuve has been officially confirmed as director for the future Dune series of movies. I now dare to hope that they will be good.

[@rigzz6951]

Wish I could watch this..Just recently started reading Dune

[@timur7381]

Rigo Aguilar no spoilers in the video

[@manfrombc5162]

Very sad right now. I've been looking to read Dune for a long time now, but when I read I bite my nails like crazy and Ive been trying to stop. Once I get that together again, its going to be a sure read!

[@terencebad7009]

You could try an audio book if you can't kick the habit. Different but still great.

[@rh_BOSS]

My biggest issue with the first Dune novel is that Herbert keeps head-hopping literally mid-dialogue throughout the whole book. And he does it only to point out how great this or that character is at everything from diplomacy to martial arts from the point of view of another character.

[@arnonuehm1]

Allright, you convinced me to finally give Dune a shot, especially with the 2nd book being all about political intrigue. I'll check out the audio books.

[@Pletzmutz]

I've read the first one but always heard that the other ones are a significant drop off in quality. In what way is that the case/why is this a common sentiment?

[@Washi81]

Have you read any of the Witcher books? If not I suggest reading at least the first two sets of stories: "The Last Wish" and "Sword of Destiny".

[@123blalala]

I'm sold

[@Neverwas_one]

Have you read the hyperion cantos?

[@TheTheromas]

The director doing the new blade runner is suppose to be doing a dune movie too. I hope it's good.

[@JoZ0Z]

I wonder if Frank Herbert read Foucault. Also Thorin I know you don't really read comments, but have you read the Hyperion novels by Dan Simmons?

[@leaderoftheproles8586]

If he did it would have likely been after Dune, Madness and Civilisation was only translated into english in 64. I mean he could have read it in the french but thats a bit of a stretch.

[@CatnamedMittens]

Jonas Foucault blows.

[@endrof1264]

I've recently read the series, and i've felt so much like you were saying at the 5th book. It took me a while to get through the first 4th of the book but kept going and it was worth it. Also have you ever read Foundation from Asimov ?

[@1GoddessGeek]

Regarding the "Seventh" book, wouldn't be in keeping with Hubert's thought process that he'd leave us with barebones "notes"? Sort of like he as a teacher is testing us? The question is: Did we learn?

[@samsuitup]

Could u do a video focused on watchmen?

[@OrganicStuff1]

G fuel gave me heart palpitations

[@CatnamedMittens]

OrganicStuff1 Means it's working.

[@Alisir5]

You might be interested in checking out the Kingkiller Chronicle as good contendant for best fantasy series of all time!

[@mcvag84]

Spice must flow

[@fttmvp]

I just started reading Dune, are there a lot of spoilers in this ?

[@alexdowd02]

No

[@Crimmjaw]

just got the Dune books :DD

[@OpticalResonator]

Please sir, may we have a new video?

[@droogbear649]

Great now I have more books I must read lol

[@matex600]

best way to buy books online?

[@thedananti]

amazon

[@LockoRockoFTW]

Shame how it all ended though

[@Pallid85]

Dune is really great.

[@WayStedYou]

The PC games were pretty awesome

[@Iraydren]

Thooorin, you should look into the manga series Berserk. I think you would like it. Philosophical elements as well as action and horror. Insanely good art. The way I got into Berserk: Watched the 3 movies, then went and read the manga. Imo, that's the best way to experience the series. Either that or just straight read the manga (skip all anime adaptations).

[@Iraydren]

Read it and then get back to me lol

[@JoZ0Z]

Mushishi does it too.

[@Fragsu]

Could you talk about "what is it like to be a fan" in one of your videos? In e-sports, as a viewer, I connect more as a fan towards players, not teams. Since I love VP as this squad that plays its heart out never changes, I have no difficulty cheering for them. How about other fans that cheer for other teams? Fnatic broke off to build 2 different teams. How can I now cheer for the team if there is about 2/5 or 3/5 of it left? Do I cheer for both then? Now they are back together (without Pronax tho) so still I can't even imagine fans being like "yesss I love fnatic" ... why? Is it the organization that you love, or the players? Taking Mousesports as an example is even more extreme. Hell! The current french-shuffle could have split the community as well. How do people stay fans if the rosters change? What does it even mean to be a fan? Could you talk about this topic? You bring often so many good points I never thought about and since you are a big personality in the e-sports team, I trust your opinion on topics connected to e-sports obviously.

[@CatnamedMittens]

XFragsHD He made a video called "I am not a fan" on his other channel that might address your questions.

[@Fragsu]

thank you

[@CatnamedMittens]

Np

[@breezelord]

Hi Thorin, Please try the King Killer Chronicles and the Farseer's Trilogy. I feel you would really enjoy.

[@BillyHashbrown]

I like Csgo

[@simargl2454]

On all of the channelses

[@romanausserdorfer6615]

Any love for Philip K Dick?

[@RLjumpers]

Do a football video.

[@McBoomPow]

Duncan Idaho in almost every book

[@0sm1um76]

McBoomPow minus the almost

[@hristo.bogdanov]

#ihavereaddunebooks

[@yngnickel]

First trilogy is extraordinary. God Emperor certainly has complex ideas with lots of depth and merit; however, it is bloated beyond belief, reads like fan fiction, has unbearable pacing and certainly is the worst novel in the series. If that's intentional by the author, then it's definitely got some merit for being able make the reader feel as bored and frustrated as humanity does in the book. It is objectively pretentious and thinks it's smarter and deeper than it is. Everything that has golden path and story relevance in this book could have been done in 50 pages or less and would have been better for it in my opinion