Obviously I'm no expert but I feel compelled to say this. I was a skeptic of behind the neck press because I had all kinds of shoulder mobility and popping issues with regular OHP and bench. I started stretching daily and doing behind the neck press with just the bar. Like 10 reps at first. Over time I worked up to like 15 reps with small weights like 5's and 10's and eventually was able to go heavy with 5x5's ect. I'm telling you behind the neck press completely opened up my shoulder mobility and I have no issues anymore. Bench press and OHP are no longer uncomfortable for me. This is just my experience but I'm currently of the opinion that if you CAN'T do behind the neck press then you should work with stretches and very safe weight until you can. My shoulders have never been better.
@joedimaggio36872 ай бұрын
I did the behind the neck press for years until one day it screwed up my shoulder. All the orthopedic surgeons that I've talked to all told me to stay away from the behind the neck press because the shoulders are not designed to handle that motion with significant weight.
@mack0ka2 ай бұрын
@@joedimaggio3687 Your body is not "designed" to use barbells. I think the main point is load management, you body can handle x but not x+1 you have to stay below x in order to not get injured and get stronger.
@joedimaggio36872 ай бұрын
@@mack0ka this behind the neck press is just not worth the risk.
@luanfreitas230328 күн бұрын
Did it work for your rear delts and side delts?
@mattvaughn852524 күн бұрын
@@luanfreitas2303 IMO mostly front and side delts. I feel a really deep burn at the end of my sets.
@Rakyr Жыл бұрын
I mainly do the behind the neck press because I heard that it activates the medial head/traps more which are areas I want to focus on.
@HypertrophyCoach Жыл бұрын
That’s not “bad”. But there are definitely better exercises for both medial head and traps
@jacobweidner9405 Жыл бұрын
Ive been wondering about thiw forever you just answered all my questions thanks joe!
@joedimaggio36872 ай бұрын
Take my advice and stay away from it. After doing this exercise for years, one day, I badly screwed up my shoulder from doing it. If you don't believe me, then talk to an orthopedic surgeon about this exercise. I always tell people to stay away.
@KenanTurkiye Жыл бұрын
Obvious front and side delts are primary, but I get huge rear delt pump with behind the neck presses, thank God I have the shoulder mobility to be able to do them regularly.
@KenanTurkiye Жыл бұрын
*obvious=obviously
@JoelP19617 ай бұрын
Same
@RsiX_soundsUK3 ай бұрын
Me too . On standard military press i feel nothing on rear delts .. with neck press my rear delts get pumped properly and develop
@mattdcomedy2228 Жыл бұрын
I do free-standing handstand pushups, and I found that this particular exercise helped me increase this ability. I'm not sure why, but I think that behind the head range of motion is recruiting some important muscles for this.
@AMan-vs4vs10 ай бұрын
Variety is the spice of life
@GraysonAugustine2 ай бұрын
Behind the neck press is A1!!!!
@HypertrophyCoach2 ай бұрын
If it fits you, have at it! 👊
@joedimaggio36872 ай бұрын
Until it screws up your shoulder. I should know.
@joedimaggio36872 ай бұрын
Not according to orthopedic surgeons.
@GraysonAugustine2 ай бұрын
@@joedimaggio3687 keep crying
@joedimaggio368728 күн бұрын
@GraysonAugustine ok tough guy, and where did you go to medical school?
@3riantran Жыл бұрын
He’s finally back ❤🎉
@gintareandriuskeviciute8564 Жыл бұрын
Was doing and it deffo had better development than now that I haven't done them more than a year. Also it's not for everyone, as you said not everyone can comfortably do them
@danski669411 ай бұрын
In 1999-2000, I was able to behind the neck barbell 225 for reps. That was the exercise to do back then! That and of course bench. My delts were absolutely tremendous when I was able to handle that weight
@tomm43288 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I was doing in 95. I wasn’t even doing front presses and my delts were tremendous as well. Once I stopped doing them , my delts never achieved that look.
@sujoychoudhury55048 ай бұрын
500 for 500
@ghostintheshelll8 ай бұрын
I reached exactly the same weight for 8 reps, 3 sets in 2000 and this was the only exercise for shoulders I would do.
@marko-1826 ай бұрын
@@ghostintheshelllgood for side delts?
@leonitis595 ай бұрын
To each his own, I have done this with way much less weight and end up in pain.
@124madcow10 ай бұрын
I do them at the end of the workout for mobility work. Light weight for higher reps like 20 reps has done a lot for my shoulders
@digitalfly7728 ай бұрын
Smart !!!
@qalih7 ай бұрын
Not sure this is taking into account every thing. I guess its because it was an off cuff question. So, some reasons: zero chest involvment and a fair amount of rear delt, side delt and tricep activation for me anyway. So exactly what a compound should do. Its not heavy at all but thats where I am at.
@raihaanimmanuel5 ай бұрын
Does it work front,mid and rear delt
@patrickjulius7352 Жыл бұрын
Can a person get near their maximum of SIDE delt gains without ever overhead pressing above a 45 deg incline? So basically side raise variations ALONE enough for side delts?
@HypertrophyCoach Жыл бұрын
Yes
@jeremyjonesacc11 ай бұрын
Any hypertrophy coach fans know of a physical therapy version of Joe? Any actual experts on things like shoulder bursitis, tendonipathy, herniated discs, etc?
@musclemedicine_M.D Жыл бұрын
Argument 3: “Yeah but Kevin looked so damn good doing it!” HC & MMMD: 100% Valid 😊 lol
@Nick-ge7ug Жыл бұрын
I love doing it on a smith machine, feels a lot safer
@NyashaM10 ай бұрын
Yep, I feel less of the front delt and more of the side
@tristanjames2575 Жыл бұрын
Does Behind the head hits side delts slightly better than in front of the head?
@HypertrophyCoach Жыл бұрын
No. Especially not compared to good side delt exercises.
@faithnfitnessguykk9569 Жыл бұрын
Good assessments. I tried Behind the neck twice over the years. Stopped both times when I started getting shoulder pain. But that is me. Others can do them with no prob. I also like the idea of change-up. The dumbbell route too, but cables mainly because of tension at the stretched muscle point. I also like his alternates for experimenting. I also like Joe Bennett is a professed brother in the Lord which is cool.
@brewhaha515 Жыл бұрын
Wait when does he say he is a Christian? That’s awesome!
@faithnfitnessguykk9569 Жыл бұрын
@@brewhaha515 In interview with Lee Labrada recently. Lee is too.
@brewhaha515 Жыл бұрын
@@faithnfitnessguykk9569 this makes me very happy ❤️🔥 Thanks for responding to my comment bro!
@timothypierce4739 Жыл бұрын
Adding to the performance note, Olympic weightlifters (Snatch and Clean & Jerk) perform BTH presses all the time because they have to be strong in that range of motion for their sport. You can't really use them as an argument for or against the movement (IMO). If you're an Oly lifter, do it or get to where you can do it. If you're not, don't try to use them as an argument for the exercise
@dennisnordlund90211 ай бұрын
Being strong in that ROM for the average lifter is very benificial since it decreases the risk for shoulder injuries and makes you an all around better lifter. The behind the neck press is without a doubt one of the most underrated exercises ever. Doing dumbell pullovers can greatly help with ones ability to do them.
@DominikKowalczyk762Ай бұрын
the point of it is to load more weight on the side delts, not front delts
@HypertrophyCoachАй бұрын
It’s doesn’t
@DominikKowalczyk762Ай бұрын
@@HypertrophyCoach if you've ever had btn presses consistently in your routine, you'd know it causes crazy delt growth
@HypertrophyCoachАй бұрын
I have. And the thousands of people I’ve trained the last 20 years. Glad it works for you though 👊
@DominikKowalczyk762Ай бұрын
@@HypertrophyCoach must not have implemented it for long enough
@sadhucat447610 ай бұрын
The point of behind the neck is to minimize pec participation. Most people shoulder press with their chest, behind the neck prevents you from arching back and using your chest like in the Hypertrophy Coach thumbnail for "How to Overhead Press for Huge Round Delts..."
@jrsmithfitpro6 ай бұрын
Behind the neck presses create too much external rotation on the humerus cranking down on the rotator cuff...much like close grip upright rows create internal rotation and grinding the rotator cuff.
@HypertrophyCoach6 ай бұрын
How do you know how much is too much? You think it’s the same for every individual?
@thegreatguy38293 ай бұрын
Thanks doc. You must have been told this of Athlean X.
@GraysonAugustine2 ай бұрын
Strawman argument
@HypertrophyCoach2 ай бұрын
How so?
@GraysonAugustine2 ай бұрын
@HypertrophyCoach the purpose of the BNP isn't just to train the front delta like you make it out to be. It's an over all shoulder builder, the "arbitrary" rom isolates shoulders and makes leaning impossible. It absolutely smokes all heads of the shoulder and triceps. As well as working stabilizers. Its am amazing movement. In my opinion, most people will make flimsy arguments to avoid it because they're weak and lazy. My BNP helped me build a 275 OHP natty.
@therockakaada61099 ай бұрын
Ur wrong … btn is neck is goat for complete shoulders and posture !