Thousand Sons vs Astra Militarum - 40k in 40m Warhammer Battle Report 2000 points.

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Nick plays one of his hobby heroes, Carl of the ‪@TheIndependentCharacters‬ podcast in this 2,000 point Warhammer 40,000 battle between the Astra Militarum and Thousand Sons.
Also A big thanks to ‪@Groundeffected‬ for supplying us with the remote control miniature. That was fun! Make sure to check them out!
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Thousand Sons - Cult of Magic 2,000 points
Ahriman on Disc of Tzeentch
Exalted Sorcerer on Disc of Tzeentch
Rubric Marines
Rubric Marines
Rubric Marines
Tzaangors
Thousand Sons Rhino
Thousand Sons Rhino
Mutalith Vortex Beast
Scarab Occult Terminators
Thousand Sons Land Raider
Thousand Sons Predator Annihilator
ALLIED UNITS
Flamers
Flamers
Pink Horrors
Pink Horrors
ASTRA MILITARUM 1,985 points
Cadian Castellan
Commissar
Death Korps Marshal
Tank Commander
Ursula Creed
Cadian Shock Troops
Death Korps of Krieg
Death Korps of Krieg
Infantry Squad
Attilan Rough Riders
Hellhound
Kasrkin
Leman Russ Exterminator
Leman Russ Vanquisher
Rogal Dorn Battle Tank
Scout Sentinels x2
Music License Code: MB018BJUIBKHAVP

[@Apollomasque]

When your Thousand Sons roll hot: "Ah, Tzeentch must be paying attention to me." When your Thousand Sons constantly whiff: "Oh no, Tzeentch must be paying attention to me."

[@Jagonath]

Thousand Sons really got duped with their choice of Chaos God. At least papa Nurgle doesn't *deliberately* screw over his own servants.

[@RevanR]

Imagine in 2 or 3 years in future that Nick will face someone that into the hobby because of him

[@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs]

I mean realistically that could happen now haha

[@trystanmarchand1293]

wouldnt be a guard player without him

[@random1ghost819]

Considering he is the reason my starting army is Tau, would love the chance to play and learn from him

[@cpt.arctourus7950]

​@@random1ghost819same reason I want to play steve

[@supernoloo7757]

Hek I got into the game because of him and this channel

[@daN-bk1fz]

These thousand sons are so well painted. Big respect for that

[@Gakusangi]

I can only hope to get them to look that good!

[@cvtuttle]

To be fair the Thousand Sons were painted by Colin Ward from Legalized Mischief and the Demons were painted by David Roberts of Dave Paints. in the UK. Both fantastic commission artists.

[@Dracobyte]

Yeah!!

[@Koplod]

Always feel really bad when a guest rolls so poorly - still a great sport and a fun game. Those TSons models are absolutely beautiful

[@cvtuttle]

I'm so used to rolling so poorly it doesn't phase me anymore. The bigger surprise for me is when I roll well!

[@Dracobyte]

Indeed!

[@im_flat]

You just KNOW the Guardsman piloting that Scout Sentinel that parried the Vortex Beast and chainsaw'd a wound into it was the talk of the company after this battle

[@cvtuttle]

as he should be! @@im_flat

[@im_flat]

@@cvtuttle He even lived to tell the tale! Man's halfway to Living Saint already!

[@sumcanadianperson7145]

That "pile of glue " joke was not horsing around. Well played.

[@TheJugHeadHat]

What is this, a crossover episode?

[@Dracobyte]

Nurgle would be proud!

[@The_mekboy_you_deserve]

The first round must've been one of the less brutal I have seen of 10th edition so far, almost nothing seemed to die

[@NickLupercus]

With those rolls it is obvious defeat was part of Tzeentch's plan.

[@Fr3nex]

*Rogal Dorn actually moves* Tzeentch: What sorcery is this?

[@tauraszenkevicius8263]

Whoever's been producing the music for these videos is absolutely fire at sound design. Super catchy and vibrant every time, gah damn

[@purplemountainmajesty7534]

came here to say this exactly

[@techboi_420]

Agree 39 minute song is what I noticed the most

[@OG-ke5xi]

This was a special stand out episode for sound design - the music was phenomenal!

[@Dracobyte]

Nice sound editing!!

[@yankeehussar3614]

I bursted out laughing when the Dorn turned out to be remote controlled!

[@bigbrowntau]

Yeah I was looking at the tracks thinking about why they were so differently painted, then when it moved, realised they're rubber...D'oh!

[@firebert123]

That RC tank was awesome! I would never stop playing with it at home.

[@hufferou812]

Wow, if Tzeench is the lord of change then maybe he wanted you to change dice. Your army is beautiful. Great video guys.

[@cvtuttle]

I brought my own dice - but Play On Tabletop wants you to use their dice for camera visibility.

[@alistairo314]

As a Ksons player I cant tell you what part of this battle hurt the most. All the rolls of 1 and 2 are a strong contender, but I also felt the lack of cabal points right in my chest

[@UnityAmongstChaos]

I was literally counting the cabal points during list previews and wiggling in my seat with pain. That and the disturbing lack of magnus lol.

[@alistairo314]

@@UnityAmongstChaos Absolutely. I love watching and seeing off-meta Thousand Sons on Play-On because it's more interesting, but off-meta definitely hurts the army a lot. Hopefully some variety will come along and fix that

[@Whoknows21356]

I mean it is a casual game. I think it’s okay to not always be competitive with your lists

[@alistairo314]

@@Whoknows21356 For sure. Ksons as an army is just unusually punished for not bringing a competitive list, so it hurts a bit to play that way. The strength of the army is in its synergy and combos to modify damage. I mean, can you imagine if Nick played this game with his army built in a way to only get access to a single guard order? That would be silly

[@helix.01]

I would say the not attaching characters hurt the most lol

[@poggiemat.g2]

God, as someone who got into the hobby mainly because of this channel, I can only dream of facing the Son of Chaos himself one day. He inspired and made me collect Death Guard, an army I love so much! Stellar production again, amazing sound and beautifully painted models again! AND A REMOTE CONTROLLED TANK WAIT WHA

[@MilkshakeSkunkette]

Those dice rolls :( felt sooo bad but great armies!!

[@cvtuttle]

You felt bad!? Imagine how I felt! 😂

[@MilkshakeSkunkette]

@@cvtuttle oh man i could feel it! Im a thousand sons player (and necrons) since 4th edition D: tzeentch myst be playing some SERIOUS long con on those imperial guards!

[@Dracobyte]

Tzeetch must be trolling arround!

[@fathurshaon123]

One can seriously feel the absence of the Psychic Phase from time to time...

[@freedomgeek2097]

Really was just the lack of cabal points. Who brings a list that generates 5? In a 2k game? Hell my 1k list still puts out 15

[@SerryJeinfeld32]

Thank you for uploading doom soundtrack

[@oberonfeyarch4128]

My God, those Thousand Sons and Tzeentch demons are so beautifully painted. It is pleasure to watch them. Big respect for that!

[@Dracobyte]

Yup!

[@IbramGaunt]

Seeing Gaunts Ghosts in action would be pretty cool

[@Nazgull2k1]

Ive never felt so bad for someone's dice just abandoning them at the altar like this before in my life.

[@cvtuttle]

I'm so used to it by now...

[@nanomachines8023]

Great painting as always! I also really enjoy the "football casting" voiceover work. It really makes it entertaining to watch

[@jamesgaultier2949]

So glad to see Carl! Used to love it when he’d cross paths with the LatCS podcast back in the day. I also played Carl at Adepticon in 2011 his Ultramarines and my Blood Angels. Super fun game and just a fun, enthusiastic guy.

[@HurBenny]

The true heroes of the Imperium take the stage they deserve !

[@BranOfSteel]

Love seeing Carl here. Such a good guy! IC's Podcast is one of my all time favorites.

[@cvtuttle]

Thanks @BranOfSteel!

[@kungfupacman]

I haven't been this entertained watching a batrep in years. The editing and the commentary really add so much character and flavor to your content.

[@thefloridaman41]

Always nice to see a Land Raider. I feel like I’m alone singing it’s praise in Custodes as both a transport and Lascannons on tracks

[@shadowmancy9183]

I love my Crusader and the ball of hate I can transport in it.

[@michaelmiller2570]

excellent visuals and table effects. really elevates the medium. great job guys.

[@PlasticAddict301]

Man I could listen to Carl play Warhammer all day, guy is so chill

[@cvtuttle]

Thanks man! That's really nice of you to say!

[@3eyeDrone]

All of a sudden a wild RC tank appears.

[@Pidgen56]

Yeah that actually blew my mind.

[@Bluecho4]

Two blue-clad armies meet on the battlefield. But only one can have the favor of the Architect of Fate.

[@andrewking8811]

The Vanquisher auto rerolls wounds vs vehicles :)

[@troutwarrior6735]

That Dorn is absolutely beautifully painted!

[@Dracobyte]

Indeed!

[@PrimeAesthetic]

I don't think I've ever heard JT say several times..."no words, I have no words"

[@Eliimore93]

Man, glad to see a list of TSons not including the same as always. So happy to see some tanks!

[@cameronnelson7179]

Good job Nick! Nice to see a guard victory ✌️

[@banalebanane8792]

Me thinking that the riders will go down first round. The riders: To Death and Glory!

[@ChargingCarnifex]

I've been looking forward to this video since Carl mentioned this was coming on the IC's sometime last month! Great work as always!

[@Dracobyte]

Their videos are awesome!

[@scalefreakgaming]

Every time you say "Movement Phase," I hear it as a "Mubin Phase."

[@sunbreakerqueenofbronze621]

These videos are always amazing! They’re great to watch at any time. I nearly died today, and I decided to watch a Play On Tabletop video to help calm me down.

[@cupcakewithatophat1131]

The tonal whiplash of going from “great video” to “I nearly died” is simply amazing. Hope you’re doing ok!

[@sunbreakerqueenofbronze621]

@@cupcakewithatophat1131 I’m fine. Don’t worry about me.

[@Dracobyte]

Yup!

[@TabletopTurtle]

My boyfriend and I enjoy miniature gaming but we can never seem to get into Warhammer stuff. Your playthroughs are so freaking good that it makes us want to pick the game up and go bankrupt buying more plastic toys!

[@tojajestemmiszczem7926]

FOR THE EMPEROR, FOR CADIA, FOR LORD SOLAR!!!

[@Dracobyte]

Cadia stands!

[@mattmanchip9419]

We need a showcase for those thousand sons, chefs kiss

[@codybaker3530]

i was pretty excited for this, As these are my Two armies, and then i realized ive already seen this match. still a great one as always. feels bads for the Mutlaith though. ;-;

[@scribeslendy595]

For a moment I forgot that members got early access to this video, so I was SUPER confused when they were playing the same armies lol

[@Kronosbear]

“Pile of glue” made me do a spit take.

[@jiggitydazzle84]

the tsons constant rolling of mass 1s and 2s....dear god

[@math_bat]

Kudos for the production on this video, the music was so good!

[@Scrubthulhu]

The RC Rogal Dorn is amazing!!!

[@joshuataylor5080]

I know! Now I want one very badly, that or an RC Baneblade 😆

[@Aviatorproduction]

Loved this episode. Nick is such an inspirational dude. I’d love to know where you guys got that Prospero inspired terrain. Excellent episode guys

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Bought a pack of 3D files from cults 3d

[@packcrackergoose7111]

This is why we play these games. To watch absurd dice rolls and laugh our butts off.

[@christiandittrich2608]

I'm glad, that I'm not the only TS player, who forgets the lethal hits from the detachment rule all the time 😅

[@DrGrizzley]

Dude... Tzeentch absolutely cursed your dice. A ton of fun to watch and good sprotsmanship was awesome to see when those dice were cursing you.

[@CaptainPoseidon282]

Please do a 10th Edition grey knights game, and a black templars one too

[@rtreytoh8546]

Best. Game. Yet. That dice luck was so hilarious

[@cvtuttle]

It hurt my soul

[@roman_tyrant]

Whoever chose the music for this episode: keep it up!

[@Rationalrevolution1]

Seems like every time he invoked Tzeentch before a dice roll he was off by exactly one. In other words, it worked.

[@nemdenemam9753]

Great battle report! Why did you use the reroll for the small stuff and not for the main battle tank at 11:48? That round 1 was crazy from both sides, the die didn't seem to want to help either side. Good ol' Tzeentch schemes

[@sircashew1097]

“Some Atillan rough riders” *confused has mask noises* 😂

[@cesarehernendez]

Where did that pyramid terrain come from?!? Its amazing!

[@JLPracing]

Love how the kriegsman are painted

[@StygianSkunk]

Battle of the Blues! The teal on the Rogal Dorn looks really good!

[@Slamn9334]

Best episode so far! A+ the vibes, the music, the game just damn perfect

[@clearthesmoke999]

send Carl's dice into the warp haha

[@bobrbw]

It’s a really good thing that his horses get good mileage in these games, they literally cost more than an elder titan

[@kacperdrabikowski5074]

Wowzers, Tzeentch evidently was pissed at that particular group of TSons...

[@badrabbit9703]

Vanquishers are great when you bring three of them, support them with orders, and have daring recon (which you'll already have.)

[@rjfrantz539]

Hey, the background music is actually pretty good. I'm glad they finally changed it up a bit

[@cavemansam8400]

23:23 That’s some ‘Tzeench says no’ shit lmao

[@markuszenger7709]

Some of the miniatures have evolved great from Rogue Trader to 10th edition.

[@benchristopher9601]

I think it would be cool if you can show the spread sheets at some point, maybe when their fighting another unit that shows the difference in stats and luck

[@1_BhS]

about time I get to see my two armies fighting each other on here

[@krelekari]

I'm a big time Tzeentch fan so I absolutely LOVE seeing a variety of T-sons n daemons in this faceoff

[@cvtuttle]

Thanks - I tried to bring a very thematic and expansive list :)

[@lordcastellan4735]

The vanquisher doesn't need a CP to reroll to wound against vehicles. It's built into the datasheet.

[@Dracobyte]

I see... thanks for the info!

[@MatthewNope]

BTW whomever made the NOT-Nine Inch Nails track really did an awesome job :D

[@Holodmer]

I think Nick forgot the Rapid Fire 4 and Twin Linked of the Exterminator 😢

[@scodo3970]

Also that vanquisher gets a free reroll to wound vs vehicles, so he didn't need to use the command point reroll that failed

[@SteefPip]

3 seconds from having to retitle it 40k in 50 minutes.

[@synergy8879]

tzeentch watching the guardsman rip a chunk out of the mutalith vortex beast:

[@renevil2105]

Horse master passive allows them to shoot and charge in the turn which they fell back in, so you could had shot him before charging back in.

[@huyhuy3837]

The real Twist of Fate here is that Tzeentch decided to troll Ahriman (again).

[@nickhayley]

I would like "whole army" turn based 40k transform a little toward "unit/points value" turn taking. Like you choose a unit that you want to do something and move, fighting/shooting is all done, then the opponent can retaliate, either with a unit, tank, creature or special character of their own. I feel it would reduce a lot of the impact of the person getting first turn. I havent played for a long time, but whoever gets first turn has a big advantage, right??❤

[@mangost2008]

we will get AA eventually (hopefully)

[@steliosvagianos8445]

That's definitely a neat idea! That's kinda how Age of Sigmar's fight phase works too, though I suppose there is a reason why this works like that. Though yeah whoever gets first turn has a big advantage.

[@mangost2008]

@@steliosvagianos8445 i think 40k and age of sigmar have basically the same fight phase just that charging doesnt grant fights first in aos, and in 40k it starts with the defending player

[@steliosvagianos8445]

@@mangost2008 I am very new to AoS, though I do believe players take turns picking units to fight back and forth in fight phase. I may be mistaken

[@kyralynn8883]

The problem is this would make 40k take even longer because on average you would have more activations per game. The game already takes 3 hours as is

[@unknowncryptid115]

Imagine rolling up to a table with your Rogal Dorn and telling your opponent that you are going to move it, pull out a remote, and it starts moving up the board. Absolute power play.

[@shadowmancy9183]

Turn 3 felt like when I rolled for max shots against a stealth suit unit with a Vindicator, then rolled eight misses.

[@artimus6179]

Amazing fight, you could see the warp energy in action with the building shaking in the bottom left throughout the match haha

[@princeofmoskova]

Great guest! I LOVE this format for 40 K battle reports, they are the BEST, hands down! Great Job Play On Tabletop!!!

[@themoderatelysadpanda461]

If Play on has taught me anything its that no one hates the TSons more than Tzeentch, those rolls were painful

[@FrozenPyro06]

I’ve got a guard gameplay question. On multiple occasions we saw Nick giving his Dorn “Take Aim.” I assume this is from the tank commander but if so, then how did the tank commander himself get the order too? Do the officer and other model both get the order?

[@PlayOnTabletop]

He’s giving the order to the vanquisher. It’s got an enhancement to give two orders. He’s not giving it to himself.

[@FrozenPyro06]

@@PlayOnTabletop very cool, thank you

[@nytecrow6452]

Carl, what did you do to piss off our giant blue chicken overlord?!?!?! XD

[@cvtuttle]

I have NO idea...

[@nytecrow6452]

@@cvtuttle Must have been all according to Plan then.

[@vorno102]

Absolutely creased at "a pile of glue", jeeeeesus, no chill!!

[@Subsistence69]

I have never seen crazier opposing dice than this 😂😂 Man how will I ever decide what army to start, literally all of Warhammer is so sick 😭

[@MrDangadave]

What a great game I didn't expect that from the start. Two beautifully painted armies. Big up for the remote control Dawn from ground effect. That china makes some lekka things bout.

[@jordandavenport5784]

Haha and here I was just thinking about starting my second army of Thousand Sons. Little did I know that Tzeentch hates his followers.

[@dominicl5862]

*Clap *Clap *Clap So you too join the 1% of people who can use Daring Recon. You've done it Nick, you're getting better, slowly but surely. Really impressed by the use of Daring Recon and the Fields of Fire for free, and Withering Hail. That small little optimization and you won your first Guard Game! Of course it was really because of the opponent's dice being so bad but its a development. Seriously though you are shooting yourself in the foot by not just having the data card in your hand and reading it as you shoot with each unit. It might seem dumb but you totally missed Twin Linked and Rapid fire (Exterminator) and Psuedo Twin Linked against Vehicles for the Vanquisher. Yes the Vanquisher sucks when you don't use its ability. P sure you wasted like 3 cp on its rerolls alone. Anyways, the Tank was cool touch. Definitely the 40k Batrep with the most resources dumped into it.

[@David13579]

42:21 Oh yeah 😂😂😂😂😂😂 omg 😆

[@StantonCLT]

Play On Tabletop is my hero. I have been collecting for a while but never really wanted to play. Now I want to find a way to visit them and have the team teach me the various groups. I love Nurgle, I have lots of Astra Militarum, and tons of Space Marines. Just need to get some paint on them and they'll be ready to go. When are you guys going on tour?

[@tylerzvitan646]

I feel bad cause he forgot the vortex beasts end of movement phase ability but I can't judge cause I forget it all the time. But at least he tanked a bunch of shots

[@lukef6878]

Music in round 2 got me hype

[@anvos658]

Well that story of this match is that is largely what you get for following Tzeentch.

[@pablonunalvares5391]

Narrator: "He's got a bad past with the Dorn Tanks" Dorn tank survive a whole lot of shots lol The gods of dices were with him

[@warmachine5835]

I'm a guard stan, and I felt bad for Carl. Tzeentch did not want him winning.

[@casbernard5582]

The remote control Dorn was for you guys?! I thought it looked familiar, what a cool model!!

[@barrylewis3937]

Pile of glue. lol that’s so funny.