Throne And Liberty 1 Month Later... "What Changed?"

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TheLazyPeon

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@TheLazyPeon
@TheLazyPeon 27 күн бұрын
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@noble137
@noble137 27 күн бұрын
theres lots of little audio disturbances in this vid fyi. thanks for great content though :D
@bobjj6602
@bobjj6602 27 күн бұрын
Hey brother Thanks for the video I just dl the game, is it still ok to begin as a casual gamer (daily player but not more than an hour or two)?
@billy_cross
@billy_cross 27 күн бұрын
Good video Peon
@rools2roolsproject325
@rools2roolsproject325 27 күн бұрын
You definitely paid for levelling up your gear so fast. It's hugely pay to win
@noble137
@noble137 27 күн бұрын
@@rools2roolsproject325 bruh get a life. you have to be so miserable to try shit on others for enjoying something that has no impact on your life.
@steveaguilar9833
@steveaguilar9833 27 күн бұрын
All games should have 2 reviews: 1 - The OMG hype, honeymoon phase 2 - The played too much/no life mode after X hours
@igorthelight
@igorthelight 27 күн бұрын
MortismalGaming does just that ;-)
@TheLazyPeon
@TheLazyPeon 27 күн бұрын
Not a bad idea, I might take this approach for MMOs I continue to play into the hundreds of hours, it’s more content and although not every game will keep me playing that long your perspective is more balanced for sure, any game that’s given me a couple hundred hours of entertainment has something going for it, even if it’s got a bunch of issues.
@igorthelight
@igorthelight 27 күн бұрын
@@TheLazyPeon That would be nice!
@steveaguilar9833
@steveaguilar9833 27 күн бұрын
@@TheLazyPeon LazyPeon replied to me, achievement unlocked hehe :D -- hey man wanted to say great work on all videos and physical stuff been doing now awesome to see!
@henrythegreatamerican8136
@henrythegreatamerican8136 27 күн бұрын
0 - The never bothered crowd. We knew the game was the same old same old.
@darthtesla301
@darthtesla301 27 күн бұрын
The breakdown of everything wrong with the combat is beautiful and only really possible by an actual player (not just a youtuber)
@_xMiru_
@_xMiru_ 27 күн бұрын
Not real player?? hes got 200+ hours get outta here.
@dissolver5388
@dissolver5388 27 күн бұрын
dumb
@Mjsmallsville
@Mjsmallsville 27 күн бұрын
@@_xMiru_ Think you kinda missed the point of that comment. They're appreciating the fact that TLP is commenting on it from the POV of an actual player, not just as a KZbinr 🙂
@Casiot
@Casiot 27 күн бұрын
@@_xMiru_that’s literally his point lol
@DBTHEPLUG
@DBTHEPLUG 27 күн бұрын
​@@_xMiru_American reading "skills."
@Jinny-Wa
@Jinny-Wa 27 күн бұрын
Months later those guild alliance "cheaters" cry about the game being dead and have no idea why and how it happened and the story continues
@Frostgnaw
@Frostgnaw 25 күн бұрын
It's basically the same story of horde pvpers on PVP Classic WoW servers obliterating the alliance players and making the game unplayable for them during Phase 2 and killing their own server in the process. All for some gear.
@Peglesss
@Peglesss 24 күн бұрын
It’s not dead, any town or place I go there are 100s and 100s of players 😅
@Raviis
@Raviis 23 күн бұрын
@@Peglesss Jinny was saying inevitably, not currently. This type of shit WILL kill the game.
@Retronomicon
@Retronomicon 23 күн бұрын
@@Raviis It already is, Korea servers have gone like this. Smaller guilds get absorbed to alliances, then alliances merge into bigger alliances, then it is just one giant alliance. Server dies, no new players since they can't access content. Want to farm crypt? Better do it in day time. Conflict boss? Run in, touch and just hide or die. Guild Wars 2 World vs World is like this, just large guilds zerging the map, it is happening here with the difference being that in Guild Wars it is a separate mode that doesn't affect the PVE. Throne will become like Lost Ark. The Devs need to be on top of this to fix the game, it cannot be like Korea, we are a different player base.
@freedomofspeechisgoodforalljus
@freedomofspeechisgoodforalljus 23 күн бұрын
Its dead because 80% of gamers are bandwagoners that follow the crowd. They play a game fir a week or 2 at most and move on to something else. Never min-maxing never getting there moneys worth out if a game. Giving everyone a false sense of what ganes are dead or alive
@JackoffeeTV
@JackoffeeTV 27 күн бұрын
I don't know why there's so many comments bashing him for providing honest feedback. Most of what he says is legit especially as it relates to the movement, targeting and usage of certain skills. That doesn't make the game bad or not fun or not worth playing. He's simply making a case to what will make the game more enjoyable. I personally fucking go livid when I try to dash forward but the cursor goes backwards. Not fun. Most of what he mentions can be polished up and should be brought up to the developers. All that's going to do is make an already awesome game better
@chester8459
@chester8459 27 күн бұрын
Because the game is dying and bad. It already lost 40% of there players.
@JackoffeeTV
@JackoffeeTV 27 күн бұрын
@@chester8459 every single game on the fucking planet dips in player retention over time.
@chester8459
@chester8459 27 күн бұрын
@@JackoffeeTV Not that hard.
@kyoden1928
@kyoden1928 27 күн бұрын
​​@@chester8459not that hard? this game cycle ended people is now logging in a off from dailies just like your wows ffxiv etc games, idk why u seem surprised, people quit lost ark once they reached T3
@kyoden1928
@kyoden1928 27 күн бұрын
​@@chester8459this game also has bots the amount of bots they are baning every couple days is insane
@Merchuyley
@Merchuyley 27 күн бұрын
healing dungeons in this game really opens your eyes to how stupid most people are because even at max level nearly all of my groups refused to block any of the BIG OBVIOUS ATTACKS
@_xMiru_
@_xMiru_ 27 күн бұрын
THIS!! i dont understand why people are so bad at blocking... There is a GIANT circle telling you when to block..
@cosmicshatter91
@cosmicshatter91 27 күн бұрын
I aint a healer, but I have noticed this a lot.. I have lost count how many times its only been me as a GS/CB and healer are left, because everyone else just doesnt bother blocking those majoy attacks... I have quit many dungeons because of these stupid people...
@pmalbuquerquetop1687
@pmalbuquerquetop1687 27 күн бұрын
If there is a healer why block 😂
@TheNEPTY
@TheNEPTY 27 күн бұрын
Facts
@winter359
@winter359 27 күн бұрын
@@pmalbuquerquetop1687 because majority of heals are meant to keep your important tank alive, we have cooldowns and limited heals we're not meant to babysit you
@VladHTX
@VladHTX 27 күн бұрын
The most spot on TnL on KZbin that finally someone that experienced the real end game and its pros and cons. Very well done and as someone in the same exact position in game as you, I agree with 100% of what you’ve said. I hope the devs listen. This has the potential to be a legendary game for years if managed correctly.
@paintspot1509
@paintspot1509 26 күн бұрын
The game is dogshit and will only get worse.
@rext3404
@rext3404 26 күн бұрын
​@@paintspot1509I don't think I'd call it dog shit, but I also don't believe they will fix a damn thing.
@dennisgalatas8823
@dennisgalatas8823 22 күн бұрын
Remember what they did to Lineage 2. But I’ll still kill few other months of my life. Let’s see.
@FriedChairs
@FriedChairs 27 күн бұрын
Even though I'm a PvE player and most of your comments are about PvP, I appreciate this video. You have given very specific changes that should be easy to implement. I think this shows that you like the game and put time and effort into coming up with these ideas. I'm really enjoying this game so far. Most of the things I hate about BDO are not in this game and many of the things I like about WoW and GW2 are in this game. I'd like to see 20-30 player raids like you mentioned and more developed NPC storylines to add to immersion. As an example, WoW has the Gadgetzan faction with its own lore and town designs. Also, I think your video prompted me to try the game so that is appreciated and I think NCSoft should pay attention to your feedback.
@Belleslayer
@Belleslayer 27 күн бұрын
ironically the game is pretty enjoyable for a non-hardcore PvE player, and it's dogshit for PvP heads. The PvP is terrible, and I'm not taking p2w into this. It's just bad scaled, mitigation mechanics feels off, there's literally no skill involved just some weird RNG and stunlocks
@hoofhearted4
@hoofhearted4 27 күн бұрын
so as a GW2 player, you've been enjoying the game? GW2 is the only MMO that's every hooked me. I tried the beta demo for T&L but wasn't immediately hooked or all that interested. but I like hearing what other GW2 players enjoy, so I might circle back to it eventually. I'm not currently playing GW2 (or any MMO).
@FriedChairs
@FriedChairs 27 күн бұрын
@@hoofhearted4 It might be worth another try. It’s pretty quick to get to level 50, at least when compared to New World on release and then you can try the open world dungeons which are quite a lot of fun and getting into a group there is the easiest I’ve ever seen. I’ve not seen any toxic behavior in any group I’ve been in so far and it’s mostly been random groups for the dungeons and world bosses. It’s turning this solo MMO player into a group player it seems. Since it’s built on Unreal Engine, theoretically it’s got lots of room for future improvements. Games built on custom engines typically can’t invest the money required to make any real improvements but Epic has lots of tools for migration to the newer engine.
@MistAssassin69
@MistAssassin69 27 күн бұрын
I don't see much to look forward to in terms of PvE sadly. Every boss seems like a loot pinata and most of its purpose is to drive guilds to PvP for it via better loot, while its spells being kinda funny when they wreak havoc in a big PvP fight but otherwise trivial. Dungeons are pretty minimalistic with only 1 boss that does anything so idk what to expect. The clunkiness of movement and desync can make even the simplest PvE tasks dysfunctional, for example Duke Magna's stomp where you have to jump has the weirdest timing where trying to intuit the timing gets you desynced back onto the ground - you have to do it earlier than it seems AND step out of the boss as melee so you don't get body blocked. Fights like Shaikal are cool so maybe they can put together something good idk.
@danikmoroz2328
@danikmoroz2328 27 күн бұрын
Yeah for small instanced pve it is not so bad, u can get to max lvl in couple chill days and using lvling gear go to any 50lvl dungeon, mechanics are pretty easy yet still fun. I totally agree that the hardest enemy in this game is movement and terrain 😅 No way comparing this game to GW2 which is far deeper game, but as some fresh and new thing I advice to give it a try. Hope devs invest more in PvE open world and more scalable instanced content as this will gain more player base
@xBaristaPaul
@xBaristaPaul 27 күн бұрын
Dude, im so proud of you man. bumbed into you on the streets of Zwolle couple years ago. you have done good so far. been following from the start of BDO days. Keep up the grind ( personal and Game wise)
@LargoBlack
@LargoBlack 7 күн бұрын
Nederlander! Woont hij in Nederland of was hij op vakantie?
@CBrown
@CBrown 27 күн бұрын
I was having an absolute blast playing Throne And Liberty despite the lack of a boob slider but the longer I played the more impactful many of the issues described here became for me. The one that killed it for me however was the lack of depth in non-combat activities. I'm a little spoiled by BDO I suppose but the Life Skills gameplay added so much depth to the game that I'd often do just that stuff and not engage in any combat during a session. Farming, fishing, gathering, trading, building my own ship, etc. There was so much to do. Throne and Liberty by contrast feels like it could have been a mobile game. The only thing you really do is fight and everything else is geared towards making you do bigger numbers when you fight. That got boring quickly. Add in all the issues with the actual combat gameplay, the shallow endgame experience, and all the Guild BS and I couldn't find any reasons to keep going. I'll check back if any of this stuff gets addressed but I have my doubts.
@dukesagami9974
@dukesagami9974 27 күн бұрын
no one cares about bdo, its a coomer game anyway.
@Stickman0660
@Stickman0660 27 күн бұрын
"Throne and liberty feels like it could have been a mobile game" thats because it started as one.
@snazzydrew
@snazzydrew 26 күн бұрын
It was designed ground up to be a mobile game.... I don't think there's any fixing that base.
@dissolver5388
@dissolver5388 24 күн бұрын
yes its a mobile games porting to pc/console somehow,its a thrash.
@Lavrec
@Lavrec 24 күн бұрын
Lack of boob slider is yet another amazon being dumb/woke thing.
@barelystephen
@barelystephen 27 күн бұрын
I agree with every point you made & hopefully the game will continue to improve! Great video as always.
@Tai182
@Tai182 27 күн бұрын
I noticed the most important slider was missing when i was creating my alt. I was confused because I remembered it was there in the beta so I was quite upset about it.
@GurkenkoenigZ
@GurkenkoenigZ 27 күн бұрын
i am not playing the game. are you talking about boob or dong slider?
@astolfo2305
@astolfo2305 27 күн бұрын
reason no play
@agaeus
@agaeus 27 күн бұрын
I'm sure they'll add Foot Size back in. That's what you mean, right?
@kampie88
@kampie88 27 күн бұрын
AGS makes everything 'all-ages friendly' and will censor as much as possible. But the moment you want to buy currency, it’s easy AF.
@Tai182
@Tai182 27 күн бұрын
@@agaeus Maybe 😜
@Gormfeld
@Gormfeld 27 күн бұрын
If I had 1 lucent for every time targeting for skill shots got stuck on terrain, then I'd have enough to fully gear both my characters and never have to engage with the lackluster endgame.
@TruePower44
@TruePower44 27 күн бұрын
This is a solid complaint. As you pointed out, smaller guilds with 20 to 40 active players have barely any content left because of these mega guilds. For example, I can never participate in the Junobote world boss event, which is supposed to be peaceful. Instead, the zone shifts to PvP mode, and the top guild, along with its subsidiaries, blocks the entrance and kills everyone. It’s frustrating to see one guild, with all its allies, ruining the experience for everyone else. It's the biggest issue I have with the game.
@mntssth5004
@mntssth5004 27 күн бұрын
By any chance you experiance it in adriana server?
@1vaultdweller
@1vaultdweller 27 күн бұрын
Bad game design.
@PsyrenXY
@PsyrenXY 27 күн бұрын
Open PvP leads to griefing, who could have possibly foreseen this (Lucky Ghost)
@pahalasyurgabarokah
@pahalasyurgabarokah 27 күн бұрын
😅 join the mega guild
@devindillard1918
@devindillard1918 27 күн бұрын
My guild along with 6 others are alliance to combat this in my server. The top guild is allying with a lot of smaller guilds but we are countering that by allying with other top guilds to keep the server fair and in check as much as possible.
@Haqi-gg
@Haqi-gg 27 күн бұрын
Been a fan for a long time, you are the person who introduced me to AOC back in 2017/18 and finally so many years later i am playing the A2, Keep up the good work sir!
@DylandPROS
@DylandPROS 27 күн бұрын
Hey bro thank you for this video. Hope this game will getting better. BTW We on the same server nice to know.
@jinnzoln9063
@jinnzoln9063 27 күн бұрын
23: About devastating smash. I'm not sure why I haven't heard much compliant but I think body blocking/collision needs to be removed. It makes melee combat feel garbage and I can't count how many times I've used devastating smash into my charged combo and found myself on top of enemies due to collision, slide off, then slide out of range, and then be forced to recast. It's also TERRIBLE design that grapple NEEDS stamina. I was wondering why sometimes it simply does not work and later saw my stamina bar drain after grappling and connected the dots. I'm not sure if that only happens if you're in combat or take damage from falling and get put into "combat" but either way it should not require stamina under any circumstance when damn near everything wants to take from your one stamina bar. One more thing about collision I hate is when im in a dungeon and I'm casting my big damage... and then my tank or other party members runs into me and then proceedes to push me out of range.
@TheLazyPeon
@TheLazyPeon 27 күн бұрын
Yeah collision definitely causing a lot of issues, weird that there’s literally a stat for it too
@danikmoroz2328
@danikmoroz2328 27 күн бұрын
Yeah grappling hook using stamina was also somewhat bad news for me 😢
@MyAnalyser
@MyAnalyser 27 күн бұрын
The lack of boob slider made me and hundreds of my gooner friends quit this game. Disgusting.
@emptyasmrman
@emptyasmrman 27 күн бұрын
You need better values then lol
@awesomelegend3569
@awesomelegend3569 27 күн бұрын
@@emptyasmrman no you need better values.
@FoxyJesus
@FoxyJesus 27 күн бұрын
this is mmobyte lol
@baxter1004
@baxter1004 27 күн бұрын
Yeah the lack of character customize keeping me away. Cookie cutter characters 👎
@serioserkanalname499
@serioserkanalname499 27 күн бұрын
These "global audience" appeasements always turn out to just annoy everyone. What do they take western gamers for? Kotaku readers? Quite insulting ngl.
@iam.loumos
@iam.loumos 24 күн бұрын
I really thought I was the only one missing the RP walk. I love starting the game in Kastleton by walking around the city, doing my cooking, etc. I’d love to just stroll around or even sit down in the inn. In general, many RP elements are missing here. It would also be cool to make the Guild Building more useful; it’s always empty when I enter. I’m sure many would disagree, but it would be interesting to limit the Guild menu access outside of the Guild House for added immersion. More RP-related Guild engagement features, like mini-games or special item crafting that requires two or more people, would be great additions. Its not a TnL thing, but many guilds are basicly full but at the same time dead.
@BangsarRia
@BangsarRia 27 күн бұрын
I'm playing TnL because of your prior video. I am actually more comfortable with the combat (Longbow/Dagger) than I ever was in years of playing ESO and New World. My character is similar to your Alt, with Level 9 Blue gear (2,585 GS). My issue with TnL is that getting the right 3 traits for each of 3 levels for each of 13 items (117 traits) was ridiculously complicated, confusing and onerous. (Getting around 2,000 Growthstones was challenging enough.) Later, when you transfer a Blue item into a Purple, the traits are all lost and you receive enough Pity (called "Blessings") for 2 of the 12 purple traits you need. I'm not enough of a masochist to go through that grind for another 130 (10 x 13) purple traits when I would also need a few thousand purple growthstones and skill books.
@aresameliajenalpha9019
@aresameliajenalpha9019 27 күн бұрын
Melee is definitely a nightmare
@fwabble
@fwabble 25 күн бұрын
This is huge info, this alone is enough for me to pass.
@noothernameleft1
@noothernameleft1 25 күн бұрын
And then you have to do it again with T1 purple gear to T2 purple gear when it is released if you want more improvements on your numbers. That said all gear in all MMO's lose their value over a certain time period.
@skillo6399
@skillo6399 25 күн бұрын
You are wrong. You only need the exact same trait to UNLOCK that line on the item, the rest is upgraded with any item of the same slot.
@ShadesSpolsky
@ShadesSpolsky 24 күн бұрын
@@skillo6399 this. You can also buy the right traits on the AH for basically nothing when it comes to blue gear. Additionlly you have unlockstones for the most expensive bis items so you don't have to spend too much. I'm 3.3k gs while paying for battle pass only, had 0 problems with gearing. When it comes to growthstones you should have enough to +9 your whole blue gear after doing Taedal's Tower + some codex and aslo can craft a ton from doing open world dungeons.
@MasonIce1999
@MasonIce1999 18 күн бұрын
Only for you do I listen to the ad. I appreciate your breakdown of new games and how you revisit them for late game reviews. Thanks for your content, it is some of my favorite game reviews.
@blobs819901
@blobs819901 27 күн бұрын
10:27 I guess a lot of people still doesn't know this but you can block your falling damage with Q, you don't need to glide from that grapple you can just press Q
@cosmicshatter91
@cosmicshatter91 27 күн бұрын
Ive tried this managed to be able to do it once, because for some reason when I jump from more then 5ft high my character likes to rubber band, so I have hit the ground and either died or almost died.
@kyleyu9543
@kyleyu9543 27 күн бұрын
Why we need to figure this out. They need to fix it themselves
@Ziegeri
@Ziegeri 26 күн бұрын
This sounds like a glitch more than a feature and intended way of doing it.
@jonoki
@jonoki 26 күн бұрын
@@Ziegerieven if you are correct..... ok... so.... use it
@noble5832
@noble5832 25 күн бұрын
@@jonoki yea man, when a core mechanic of the game doesn't work but there's a buggy workaround, everyone should just learn how to bug abuse to circumvent the broken morph mechanics of the game. Genius
@hisammy3969
@hisammy3969 15 күн бұрын
hey peon, been a long time silent viewer and never really commented on anything. But it's been a while since i've checked in and you're looking so much more comfortable in your skin. Idk.. not sure how to describe what I'm saying but it's really nice to see :)
@cochogod
@cochogod 27 күн бұрын
Agree with those points, game is great, and could improve a lot with what you've pointed out.
@MorrolanTV
@MorrolanTV 27 күн бұрын
Really good list of all the things that feel clunky right now. The game has so much good content on the way - I really hope they just drill down on the *feel* of moving, attacking, grappling, etc. If they do this game will stick around for a long time.
@modestoddish3331
@modestoddish3331 27 күн бұрын
I've been enjoying the game but I found that evasion stacking makes PVP really unfun. In combination with CC having a percent hit chance (mentioned in the video), it turns a lot of fights into "who had better evade/hit RNG". Especially when your big powerful ability just misses and you can't do it again for 30 seconds.
@hasi3128
@hasi3128 27 күн бұрын
Another greatsword Player complaining😂
@mjokerboy3539
@mjokerboy3539 27 күн бұрын
Its either you dont pvp or boost your hit chance. Nothing wrong with the game mechanics. This is a korean game. The one with the best gear wins. Its either you have no life or you swipe. If you are neither then just enjoy the PvE content
@infamoussnyc3761
@infamoussnyc3761 26 күн бұрын
It's called defense
@ChanChan-jk8pc
@ChanChan-jk8pc 26 күн бұрын
Skill gap. Get hit stat if you're missing. Another crybaby
@paintspot1509
@paintspot1509 26 күн бұрын
​@mjokerboy3539 lol everything is wrong with the game mechanics.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 26 күн бұрын
Great video! ❤️ The idea of small guild content is great - capstones that are limited to small guilds and an option to mark your guild as a small guild, limiting members to about 20/25 instead would be amazing. Also think they should make it so that if ypu join a guild with another character, it does't take up a slot, as you cant be logged on to both anyways. I also think they could makecsmaller forts for siege battles, or even a faction system, in the new area, where you have open world pvp with keeps/castles like DAOC! I'll make a video 😁
@Ok-nz7gy
@Ok-nz7gy 27 күн бұрын
the movement, especially the morphing and grappling in this game feels like im an obese walrus dragging myself through shards of broken glass and rusty nails
@jonoki
@jonoki 26 күн бұрын
bdo might be more your speed
@TheVintress
@TheVintress 22 күн бұрын
@@jonoki unironically bdo is better than trash and liberty
@kamygod
@kamygod 26 күн бұрын
Wb Peon, glad to see ur a bit more positive and cheerful lately , last 2 reviews were very good, shared on 20 Discord servers and liked
@paintspot1509
@paintspot1509 26 күн бұрын
Lol.. oh boy, shared on 20 dead TL discords.
@thunderchild303
@thunderchild303 27 күн бұрын
Throne and Liberty: As wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle...
@MrCarlWax
@MrCarlWax 26 күн бұрын
In what way?
@goldensh0t439
@goldensh0t439 18 күн бұрын
lol this brain dead comment template is on every game review. Such a deep thinker😂
@thunderchild303
@thunderchild303 18 күн бұрын
@@goldensh0t439 Actually its a very old adage that fits this game perfectly, hence why I used it. I have not seen any other reviews only Peon's. Having played T&L to max level I based my comment on MY perception of the game. The real question is..... Whats wrong in YOUR life that you feel the need to lash out at random people on the internet? 🤔
@KetaFPV
@KetaFPV 8 күн бұрын
Not seen your channel in what feels like years. You're looking very healthy brother!!
@Fearmocker
@Fearmocker 27 күн бұрын
Excellent analysis man. Very well done.
@leeroyjenkins385
@leeroyjenkins385 20 күн бұрын
Whoever wrote this analysis should get a raise!
@C_Sardius
@C_Sardius 27 күн бұрын
Very good points added for them to improve! Hope they listen and take notice of what you've just given them. All of them are noticeable and disturbing the gameplay for me and probably everyone else!
@ArielAriaVT
@ArielAriaVT 27 күн бұрын
Honestly really enjoy T&L and wouldn't have checked it out without your endorsement. Thanks LP!
@paintspot1509
@paintspot1509 26 күн бұрын
His ad* isn't wasn't an endorsement.
@calumsinclair6494
@calumsinclair6494 27 күн бұрын
Great list ,as a regular player you hit it spot on. This is the most fun ive had in an MMO in a long time, i hope they can fix these issues as theres so much potential with this game
@CoreyC4
@CoreyC4 27 күн бұрын
How people are claiming this is the best mmo they have played, just tells you its the only mmo they have played. That just simply makes no sense and is an absolute joke of a statement. It fails to beat so many current mmos out there.
@tyler6971
@tyler6971 22 күн бұрын
This is a joke of a comment. Your OPINION is not end all be all.
@ThatGuyInTheBack007
@ThatGuyInTheBack007 10 күн бұрын
@@tyler6971 Yet it rings true with the huge drop of players, so there's that. Nearly every Korean mmo keeps falling on this same track in some capacity: -Characters try to exceed the realms of looking like beauty models or realistic. (Got to draw in the crowd on "graphics"). -Flashy combat. (Instead of focusing on details to the substance, they focus on flash quality without thought of various scenarios on balance, or functionality). -0 substance with story. (THIS is a big kicker cause then it just falls back to "it's all about the gameplay" crowd) -Generally forced PVP. (They rely on players to just duke it out or have it at the "source" of the community, which generally boils down to just a few massive guilds and just becomes a crappy experience). -Horrible crafting/Tied to horrible rates. (If they go down the route of you have to grind obscene rates to get 1 powerful item, or sometimes have a "shortcut" in their cash shops).
@zero131056
@zero131056 27 күн бұрын
crazy how accurately you described many of my issues with the game, even wording it in a way that really hit the nail on the head
@Oxy80111
@Oxy80111 27 күн бұрын
Time and time again, the community proves to be the worst part of MMOs.
@TheWolfDude91
@TheWolfDude91 27 күн бұрын
I agree, Throne and Liberty community has some of the shittiest players I've encountered in a while, had a lot of unpleasant encounters, f2p games tend to attract the most toxic of players.
@scottlevis5704
@scottlevis5704 27 күн бұрын
Dude it's so true people are just toxic unless a MMO is solo nowadays I swear I don't even care to play one. I hate humans
@TheUnseenPath
@TheUnseenPath 27 күн бұрын
I don’t and no one should. Hate the toxic ones, love the good ones.
@freedomofspeechisgoodforalljus
@freedomofspeechisgoodforalljus 23 күн бұрын
So pathetic complaining about toxic stuff. Grow past it and stop letting it affect you. Our society is way to soft its pathetic.
@riddert4966
@riddert4966 22 күн бұрын
I always say: the true last boss of an MMO is the community :D
@misspurrfectx
@misspurrfectx 27 күн бұрын
This is the first mmorpg that I have genuinely enjoyed in such a long time I am super addicted but as you mentioned there are some immersion breaking and gamebreaking flaws that just drive me crazy. I am 100% getting tired of having to summon a diff amitoi and then having to summon the shark amitoi back. He gets broken and you miss out on loot if you don't catch it 😅i want to see this game improve but I am seriously enjoying it. Great vid! Hoping devs watch feedback vids like this!
@remingtonsummers6802
@remingtonsummers6802 26 күн бұрын
Can you elaborate? Whats the difference amitois do?
@misspurrfectx
@misspurrfectx 26 күн бұрын
@remingtonsummers6802 they just have cosmetic differences. However make sure you have world tree leaves in ur inventory because all amitois can heal you! you can set what level of health they will heal you on in your settings😊
@seanblack5085
@seanblack5085 27 күн бұрын
I think there's a big issue with world boss loot being parts of armor sets needed for builds. You would need a guild to give you 3 of the same item just to get the set you need to be competitive.
@Unknownrace
@Unknownrace 27 күн бұрын
T2 Gear it will change and will be lot easier u can get all bis from dungeon excl arch boss
@chuckvirus7742
@chuckvirus7742 27 күн бұрын
you need it only once, you can use lucent or trait unlock stones to get the rest
@MineWikiCraft
@MineWikiCraft 25 күн бұрын
Thats where trait unlockstones and trait conversion Stones come in handy
@RoninRyae
@RoninRyae 27 күн бұрын
Amazing review almost everything i experienced is here
@NotEfficient
@NotEfficient 26 күн бұрын
So tl;dr, combat is awful/buggy and uncomfortable at times but the open world and group content feels great? If I got it right.
@laoch5658
@laoch5658 26 күн бұрын
always onlne guy try form your own opinion instead of watching streams all day,,you end up playing no games
@LotvisTheOwl
@LotvisTheOwl 22 күн бұрын
@@laoch5658 he said it good, combat is terrible and clunky as fuck, action camera combat is literally downgrade of guild wars 2
@MineWikiCraft
@MineWikiCraft 10 күн бұрын
combat is amazing although buggy/clunky
@riftbog
@riftbog 20 күн бұрын
Good to hear I am not the only one struggling with movement/ fight controls as melee.
@user-wq1kl4so6f
@user-wq1kl4so6f 26 күн бұрын
another problem i find, (my opinion) is the huge disadvantage some classes have against others, for example greatsword has 5 stuns but crossbow has none. No diminishing returns. Bow does tornado a spell that makes you airborne and unable to do anything, but can hit you with abilities that are targeted in a straight line. Tank is super tanky(obviously) but does way too much damage and gets none. Blocking is also shit.
@RathVantas
@RathVantas 25 күн бұрын
Yeah the classes feel pretty unbalanced in PVP, definitely agree that tanks are just unbalanced cause they are incredibly hard to kill but can still do tons of damage. Greatsword dagger is one that’s funny because it feels absolutely miserable to be targeted by since you’re just locked in crowd control for 5 years with very little you can do against it, but the class is quite weak in large guild vs guild or zerg scenarios. So it’s weak but at the same time feels extremely unfair and oppressive if you get targeted by it. For blocking not sure what you mean, I think it depends a lot on your weapon/passives. For example with dagger block + 1 passive, when I successfully do a moving block I immediately regain a bunch of mana, go into stealth, and gain 690 magic and ranged evasion. It saves my life all the time when I get ganked by multiple people
@dissolver5388
@dissolver5388 21 күн бұрын
yes indeed,theres no fun for support users as they keep spamming the stun and you cant counter it and die.but no wonder its ncsoft the most horrible company worldwide knows it.
@rejointrident
@rejointrident 27 күн бұрын
thanks. this is the no-pink glasses review i was waiting for to make the decision!
@zae_llama9111
@zae_llama9111 27 күн бұрын
My guild died a few days after launch. We barely have 5 online at one time and haven’t raided in weeks. Game is fun but the reliance on other people is what’s kinda killing it for me. The game is SO DEPENDENT on team play but it’s still a good game imo. Just want to play more things solo
@timproc9355
@timproc9355 27 күн бұрын
That's fundamentally the issue of the game. When two alliances monopolize the end game. The people most interested in the game flock to them. While locking out the others from ever participating.
@benjaherrera3299
@benjaherrera3299 27 күн бұрын
welp, it's an mmo
@twlsrovrdaar
@twlsrovrdaar 27 күн бұрын
​@@benjaherrera3299 This MMO shoves team play down your throat way more than any other I've ever played. I feel like it's just not really possible to play this game solo.
@benjaherrera3299
@benjaherrera3299 27 күн бұрын
@@twlsrovrdaar i dont really get the point of soloing an mmo but hey do you. and how so? what content does the game gatekeep u from being solo?
@Zack_Wester
@Zack_Wester 27 күн бұрын
@@twlsrovrdaar I love it when peaple are like I play MMO but I hate to interact whit other player. like theres other games that way better on everything then a MMO (because it dont have to deal whit Network). that said if the guild is to small talk whit the members that left and try and join a bigger one. the wow guild I was in had a rolling aliance (and whit the aid of a few addon) more or less Cross guild communication whit a few other guilds so that when ever there was stuff that needed doing we could always scrape up enouth members between all the guilds to make it work. that said Im not sure how good cross guild communication is in Throne and Liberty consider that Guild functionality have not really advanced a lot sins what it was when Wow launched in 2007-2008. (like sure we got Guild halls and or Guild vs Guild Keeps/castle) but after that not really. no real ability to link whit other guilds in a proper way (mega guild or alliances or what have you). Guild ranks are still just a single Line whit maybe 10 ranks (one is the Guild master and only one can be the guild master so really 9 ranks) (whit no way to communicate ranks outside of the guild). (out guild had to set up its costume Guild rank structure shown whit ascii art through a MyRolePlay addon. (this also through a lot of jank also let us show our Guild rank to other players but it was sort of Janky in that you had to input the rank as a name into a rank field manually. (so if you had a event where you and other guild was holding a promotion even where someone whent up a rank it could take the addon 2 min to broadcast the uppdate to the other MyRolePlay user and we could see it).
@elyallgames5690
@elyallgames5690 27 күн бұрын
man you are one of the best and smart and honest youtuber i have ever seen ,you pointed on every details that i thought nobody cares to point out. keep being best and honest at your work o/
@singularitybound
@singularitybound 27 күн бұрын
13 is so counter intuitive. All your pointed out issues are 10/10. Love the game, hope they get on top of it. Range in general also feels like trash. (I know why they went with it) but it feels to forced. There is a ton of content/modes coming for small, med groups also, so there is a lot to look forward to. Removing sliders because of annoying useless people when the far majority want them is just cancer. Tbh they need to make the chain lock on just supersize or something, even objects, npcs etc near them can literally throw you off to. The fact its in important content and forced is so ugh. Hell if in the area it isn't killing you, or even just not working at all LOL, even when you do fly theres a pretty huge chance you get that issue where your flight mod T poses and you crash to the ground. All of that is compounded when dropping off a 1' ledge kills you.. Who''s idiotic idea was that. Also because of the super low pings in SK I bet they did not do any testing for how building around that would effect all of in global with even normal pings lol.
@domppa100ify
@domppa100ify 27 күн бұрын
Some skills and/or augments of skills feel rushed and are just useless by just having bad effects or requiring stupidly situational effects to get the same effects that other skills get without the conditional triggers. Here are some that are mostly just from my used weapons. -Bow and crossbow passives that get affected by windspeed. At least dungeons don't seem to have wind. -Longbow and Crossbow each have one or two skills that create a Whirlpool area (movement speed area), which is also a requirement for some skills to gain the use of their augments. For example Longbow's Decisive Sniping grants 20% faster charging time, while another weapon's change attack would gain this benefit just from gaining the augment. -Decisive sniping also has another augment, which also provides incresed maximum charge time with the benefit of increased maximum damage, which just doesnt grant extra dps. -Decisive sniping also gets damage boost augment, but it only works on cc:d targets, which most bosses are immune to. In addition because players cant benefit from each others' debuffs that were placed on the enemy unless specified in the skill, the Longbow can only gain this benefit on normal targets with it's one cc skill, which binds the target. -Crossbow and longbow both have augments with Gale status, but Longbow alone doesn't have nearly enough ways to trigger the gale stacks by reaching 10 stacks. (and one of these Longbow skill augments does increased damage per gale stack). These should just be simplified to damage increases or gale should get reworked. -Crossbow's Recoil shot augment lets you stack three stacks of Repulsive force to consume all three stacks to do triple damage, but why not just do normal recoil shot each stack for the same damage. Not to mention that you need to use all of your stamina to get enough dashes for the stacks. -Crossbow's Mortal mark's duration is too short to use if effectively. -Staff has lots of synergies, maybe even too many for a normal player to keep up, but at least they got options. -Tome's Ray of Disaster gets an augment that lets it do 100% MORE damage and 50% LESS cooldown, sure it's effect isnt that great but for 5 points having that on any damage skill would be great. -Some augments like Fountain's of life's mana gain needs to scale with the skill's level. -There is no reason why SW's Shield throw's bounce augment shouldn't just bounce farther distances. Augments either need more options, removing too complicated augments or increasing the amount of possible synergies. Some skill descriptions are just badly translated and just don't clearly explain how they work. Examples: -Longbow skills uses keywords like Bullseye and Mark, while also using the word Bullseye for the name of an augment that has nothing to do with the keyword Bullseye. -Crossbow's Recoil shot explains that it requires a stack of Repulsive force to be used and that the skill Nimble leap grants Repulsive Force. It does not mention that Any dash skill and dodge roll also grants Repulsive Force. -Crossbow's fire arrow enchantment is just described as having the same effect as a skill of another weapon's skill's burn. Having to got that extra mile to learn what it does it just plain stupid. Some status effects with some weapons are just useless. -Crossbow Burn doesnt actually do much damage compared to poison (burn does damage in tens per second, while poison does hundreds per second. For some reason burn only has three second duration with max stack of 10). -Crossbow Frost's 10% slow feels useless on its own. It should at least affect attack speed. (only has one second duration) Tbh l don't understand why each different source of burn and frost does different amount of damage/debuff amount/duration
@KingRabid
@KingRabid 27 күн бұрын
games have been going *_backwards_* in development ever since game studios realizes rabid gamers will continue throwing money at them even if they release unpolished turds. mmorpgs are no longer full games that are updated and maintained as time progresses but glorified beta or in many cases even alpha shells of a game dolled up and rolled out to collect funds while the rest of the game is still being developed. pardon my optimism.
@leeroyjenkins385
@leeroyjenkins385 20 күн бұрын
Hard to call any of these amalgamations "games". People spend money on most of the products to feel better about themselves. If you already spent money on the product - why not enjoy it? Can't unring a bell. But you can ring the bell again, find your way to the herd.
@c2lhu
@c2lhu 18 күн бұрын
The master reviewer and one we can trust. Really admire your devotion
@laciee
@laciee 27 күн бұрын
One pretty simple thing I would love to see is some basic glow/sparkle effect on your armor/weapon when it is upgraded. Can start with some basic glow on green items, heavy glow on blue items and glow and lightning effect on purple items. This was a cool thing in the game called Last Chaos. You could upgrade your weapon to +15 in that game and it was glowing with lightning effects 🙂. When upgrading the armor, you got a fairy flying over your right shoulder that was glowing more the higher your upgraded weapon was.
@whoaskedyoutolookatthis
@whoaskedyoutolookatthis 27 күн бұрын
So basically like lineage 2.
@Vaibryn
@Vaibryn 26 күн бұрын
Thats very unlikely to happen. Glowing Enchantsments was a big thing in 2010's MMO Scene but in the current age it's not that popular anymore.
@laciee
@laciee 26 күн бұрын
@@Vaibryn But it looks cool 🙂.
@alexlucker1
@alexlucker1 26 күн бұрын
hello fellow LC enjoyer
@swarmsovereign5158
@swarmsovereign5158 27 күн бұрын
gonna say it- FALL DAMAGE IN A GAME WHERE YOU ARE PRACTICALLY A DEMIGOD IS OBJECTIVELY ABYSMALLY BAD. We can turn into birds and nosedive straight into the ground and -magically- take NO damage. But the moment your human foot touches ground from anything higher than a 2ft jump, OOO BOI OUCH OWIE OOF
@emptyasmrman
@emptyasmrman 27 күн бұрын
…..what a weird take
@rudyseptian3812
@rudyseptian3812 27 күн бұрын
​Here one Cool tips for you,you can use block to mitigate fall damage. you are welcome ​
@Belleslayer
@Belleslayer 27 күн бұрын
since u can just "parry" fall damage I thinks its fair
@mjokerboy3539
@mjokerboy3539 27 күн бұрын
Will you say the same for Elden Ring? 😂 Killing gods but can't kill gravity
@DerpKeHerp
@DerpKeHerp 26 күн бұрын
​​@@emptyasmrmanwhy is it weird? He makes a great point. Even though it might not make or break the game experience it goes straight into the pile of other questionable design decisions.
@Verienn
@Verienn 27 күн бұрын
Arena advice, you can Q block fall dmg, just Q as you land after grapple
@Tklinedesign
@Tklinedesign 27 күн бұрын
I've put 170 hour into the game. You've hit the nail on the head for most of my gripes. It's a 7.5/10 game that I have a hard time putting down and if they fix most of these issues it's easily a 9.5/10
@higguma
@higguma 27 күн бұрын
Generous. It's broken in more than what he stated. The new player experience will kill it. They have to redesign a lot. It's more than some bug fixes. You walk in the game and u have 20 small menus everywhere
@ngc4486diane
@ngc4486diane 27 күн бұрын
its a 1 out of 10 or 0 cause u have to buy gear less u play 24/7 and u make it ur job but even kanon admits that u will never beat a paid player.
@dukesagami9974
@dukesagami9974 27 күн бұрын
@@ngc4486diane cry , skill issue. Im 2.6k sns/wand, but i beat 3k + players 1v1 easily. git gud bro
@GanjaManVids
@GanjaManVids 27 күн бұрын
​@ngc4486diane lol, kanon litterally said many times a f2p player can easily kill a p2w player. Because of class counters... i am only 2.854 and i can kill everyone in 1 combo except tanks as a greatsword dagger...
@Marco-929
@Marco-929 27 күн бұрын
How is any tap target game a 9.5/10??? For me this combat feels like 30 years old.. like wtf...
@Evoluti0nz.
@Evoluti0nz. 24 күн бұрын
Absolutely spot on review. Once again 10/10 review from you.
@Xhotic
@Xhotic 27 күн бұрын
I just want them to add more actual non Daily lock out content, like KR has basically Mythic+ dungeons, and getting actual Instanced 12 player raids in Jan next year... If they dont start pumping in the content KR has, were going to have a Lost Ark situation on our hands (was too far behind KR for FAR TOO LONG, causing player base to bore and burn out and quit before they actually released the meat and bones of the content that the KR region had.....)
@AlexMac_TV
@AlexMac_TV 27 күн бұрын
SPOT ON, the best retailed feedback I ve seen so far of things to improve or fix in TL, some really easy, some harder. If NCSOFT goes through this list the game would be so much better
@Punisher1992
@Punisher1992 27 күн бұрын
why didnt you play'd wvw in gw2 more? thats exactly what you described.
@LemonHam5408
@LemonHam5408 27 күн бұрын
I think most players won’t play GW2 cuz it is really old and people want new and flashy things more.
@TheLazyPeon
@TheLazyPeon 27 күн бұрын
WvW is my favorite part of guild wars 2 and was the thing I played the most, I stopped because the devs don’t really show much love to PVP and I also prefer the feeling of Guilds fighting Guilds rather than Faction v Faction, still enjoyable though, just wish Guild Wars had more “Guild Wars” if that makes sense
@MineWikiCraft
@MineWikiCraft 10 күн бұрын
I played a bunch of WvW in GW2, it's nowhere as close to TNL
@SchockerX69
@SchockerX69 24 күн бұрын
If the fantasy of being a soldier going into battle is what you like about throne & Liberty, might I suggest Conqueror’s Blade? It’s free to play too. You and your teammates play heroes leading squads of soldiers in huge siege battles. It’s got +130 units to collect, train, and outfit. Like T&L, Conquers Blade had some stuff that needed to be worked on at the start, But it’s a completely unique experience and worth checking out.
@Spre4
@Spre4 27 күн бұрын
Man you were really spot on, but if someone that doesn't play the game watches the video they might get the wrong impression, yes there are a shit ton of things that need to be fixed, but at the same time the game is sti amazing, and one the things I love is the community, especially when you are in a organised guild, it is amazing
@timproc9355
@timproc9355 27 күн бұрын
his impression is correct. Coming from the same server he is on that is the experience. It's full of mega alliances and there are others similar. It's not fun if you have zero chance of winning.
@jpchanchico
@jpchanchico 26 күн бұрын
Agreed, this gave the vibe that the game is dead and horrible. The game is fucking amazing outside of these points and the way this video got people trying to shit on it having zero idea about what the game actually is.
@jaytee2992
@jaytee2992 16 күн бұрын
@@jpchanchico Idk his points are valid, theres not really any end game content that is fun. Yeah guild battles are fun but thats literally all there is. I have 100 hours 2 characters 3.2cp other than doing the same 3 types of pvp the game is bare bones. Leveling system is horrendous, crafting system is even worse, The dungeons aren't even fun to run anymore due to how incredibly easy they are. They also need to add combat power scaling to PvP arena, the plebs who have lvl 6 blue weapons will never do more than 10k damage per match and just griefs their teammates lol.
@teekanne15
@teekanne15 27 күн бұрын
Keep going with hat video style! I was sceptic for a bit but now enjoy it much more!
@etotherside
@etotherside 26 күн бұрын
Healing in the game is complete dogshit, it's about 1/10th the range of the boss dungeon boss area. You'll constantly be running around trying to heal your group. Additionally, the stunlocks from GS abusers is also complete dogshit. If you are a GS abuser or got lucky with an insanely rare drop early on to sell it for thousands of lucent, you'll also be way ahead of everyone else unless you pay literally hundreds of dollars to catch up. This also allows you to keep ahead of everyone by taking advantage of the treasure chests on the island at night, which is the only way to break the timegated progression in the game, since you can just bully everyone else off the island with an insanely geared group. Also only having 3 loadouts is 2-3 too few for healers in particular. No loadout for solo pvp roaming or arena or small group pvp if you already have one for group pve, large scale pvp, and solo pve farming. Seems like an easy thing to do if you actually heal in the game at all, which I doubt the devs have because then they'd realize it's complete dogshit. Probably just abusing greatsword with how broken it is in small scale and 1v1.
@musikausdemosten
@musikausdemosten 26 күн бұрын
But that make it heavier and need more your skills than standing on one point and press only healing buttons 😂
@tryhardigan9952
@tryhardigan9952 27 күн бұрын
I remember when you were in the UK, now you look like the characters you play, well done. On my way on a different path asap.
@qkckn3391
@qkckn3391 26 күн бұрын
After investing 250 hours and building a 3400+ CP Invocator and a 2600+ CP Scorpion character, my motivation to play has completely drained - just like my points in the game. The game feels extremely limited. Daily content can be completed in just 1-2 hours, leaving me without anything more to do. Unfortunately, I don’t see a future for this game. Stability isn’t an issue, and it handles zerg PvP and teleportation excellently. (Perhaps due to a patch or adjustments to server performance?) I miss a game with a much larger world, an economy like in New World (where I’ve put in 4,000 hours), and diverse build possibilities. Maybe I expected too much, at least something close to Lineage 2, which I played for years on both L2J and official servers. Here, there’s simply no variety! This game feels very barren.
@eurrikkeedward9351
@eurrikkeedward9351 26 күн бұрын
"This game feels very barren." Just like new world eh
@qkckn3391
@qkckn3391 26 күн бұрын
@@eurrikkeedward9351 The concept of New World was good, despite it remaining a bug-ridden mess to this day, entirely thanks to AGS's incompetence. I loved the PvP in it, even though I played a constantly nerfed class. Imagine what that game could have been like if NCSoft had implemented that system! Now that could have been the so-called WoW killer! ;) But Throne and Liberty just turned out to be a dumbed-down pay-to-win MMORPG, designed to cash in on whales. Few options, tons of limitations…
@sir-sorrel
@sir-sorrel 12 күн бұрын
Kind of the same feeling. I'm just hoping the castle siege will be good as that was the big draw for my group of friends. T2 is supposedly coming after the castle, so we should be getting new dungeons and content, getting closer to the Korean build, but we're really going to feel that content drought once global is caught up. I don't know if the other systems will get attached at the start like runes and resonance effect, but that's supposed to allow for more build options. I'm a berserker and it looks like it becomes more viable when t2 hits, but dunno if things will still feel good at that point.
@DM_Rid
@DM_Rid 24 күн бұрын
Dude, thank you for talking about the lack of RP Walk! It's a feature that should be in every game. Even if people aren't RPers, sometimes you just want to walk around and look cool in your armor lol.
@thebandithing95
@thebandithing95 27 күн бұрын
Honestly i really wanted to enjoy this game but i simply cant
@philmehrart
@philmehrart 27 күн бұрын
It's cool, it's not for everyone.
@shinvolcano
@shinvolcano 27 күн бұрын
@@philmehrart its not for most, apparently, the game will be dead in 5-6 months.
@mortek1379
@mortek1379 27 күн бұрын
@@shinvolcano 🤦‍♂
@andrewsong7760
@andrewsong7760 27 күн бұрын
@@shinvolcano it will definitely be a niche title. it does a lot of things right, but too many core features are mobile-y in nature and rewards only the swipers. the argument of 'its not p2w, lucent can be earned!!!' is cringe because the amount of time it takes to earn the amount of a lucent that another player can obtain through just swiping is absurd. yes you can farm abyssal dungeons for 8 hours to make a profit of 350 lucent on average (probably less if you aren't lucky - and fuck the tax system in this game); no this isn't fun and shouldn't be used as an argument to claim that this game isn't p2w. the average player does not have the time nor the energy to do this
@l3loodR4IN
@l3loodR4IN 27 күн бұрын
​@andrewsong7760 ive made about 5k lucent and I'm free to play. About 50 hours played lol
@metalunits
@metalunits 8 күн бұрын
I was halfway done downloading the game while watching this video. I stopped and uninstalled at 75% downloaded. Thanks for saving me the time!
@chiefenumclaw7960
@chiefenumclaw7960 27 күн бұрын
No bewb slider, no $$$.
@tokyodrifttt
@tokyodrifttt 27 күн бұрын
Great catches. They all seem small when you mention it outloud, but combined together in game in a daily basis it really gets to you lol
@RamzaBehoulve
@RamzaBehoulve 27 күн бұрын
I couldn't bother going beyond lvl 40. One of the most boring MMOs I've played.
@seabhacgra517
@seabhacgra517 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I agree with nearly 100% of what you said but despite alot of issues with the gameplay I can deal with most of them and still have fun, but the 1 thing you mentioned that is the "elephant in the room" for the game, at least for me, is the mega PvP guilds killing servers. Like you I'm not sure there is a perfect resolution for this but it NEEDS to be acknowledged and worked on by devs.
@emptyasmrman
@emptyasmrman 27 күн бұрын
As a casual PvE player going along with my friends, I haven’t had as much fun in an MMO in YEARS. I love the combat, the exploration and the dungeons. I’m very excited to see where it goes and what they add. We are only a couple weeks into the game lol. They are being very receptive to the community so I have hopes that some major changes come to the world boss loot system. But pvp is trash, and I mean in general, there’s never been a fun pvp in mmo’s. It’s for shitters who live off the meta and genuinely don’t have lives. It has NEVER been done well and it can’t be.
@Belleslayer
@Belleslayer 27 күн бұрын
yeah the PvE is really the strong point of TL. In other hand the PvP remember me of WoW's PvP, a big ass meta MEME with bad scaling, exaggerated amounts of CC and brainless zergfests. I'll stay in the game cause the PvE so far is one of the best I've played in mmos.
@Taskling
@Taskling 26 күн бұрын
Really also enjoy pve and dislike pvp. Or at least I want to engage in pvp when I choose to, not to have enforced on me. But I do think there should be pvp in the game for the people who enjoy it. Endgame in throne of liberty are more oriented to pvp, which i think is fine because that is what the creators intended. But I wouldn't be sad if they had only pve servers xD
@MightiestBeard
@MightiestBeard 26 күн бұрын
Sounds like as long as they are willing to make some improvements it'll be pretty good next year. Gonna just keep waiting.
@JacobLeex
@JacobLeex 27 күн бұрын
After hitting around 3k gearscore I realized how p2w it was and we're only in Tier 1. Tier 2 will be a nightmare so ill stop investing my time
@ofensatul
@ofensatul 26 күн бұрын
That's my fear aswell , the t2 cost/investments
@JacobLeex
@JacobLeex 25 күн бұрын
@@ofensatul I'd be okay with the grind if you couldnt buy all your gear with money but yeah
@MineWikiCraft
@MineWikiCraft 25 күн бұрын
It really isnt that p2w
@sperrex465
@sperrex465 25 күн бұрын
@@MineWikiCraftit’s super p2w don’t cope. You can make a new character and buy best in slot gear with best in slot traits in your first day. A Timmy will be 1600-2000 gear score and you will be 3000+
@MineWikiCraft
@MineWikiCraft 25 күн бұрын
@@sperrex465 100% f2p sitting at 3200 i'm not denying it has p2w i'm saying the p2w is not as big as people are making it to be
@CrackedZac
@CrackedZac 26 күн бұрын
Im completely with you on this review! Game is great and has been fun but the potential is way bigger than where it’s at now. I think all of these issues are very fixable though which is good
@JustJeka
@JustJeka 27 күн бұрын
Really glad I gave Throne and Liberty a shot, because it reminded me how good New World is and I'm back enjoying that game now!
@kyoden1928
@kyoden1928 27 күн бұрын
new world lmao
@aries4378
@aries4378 27 күн бұрын
​@@kyoden1928better than Throne and Liberty, a game that failed in Korea.
@Nytrusdeathcyde
@Nytrusdeathcyde 27 күн бұрын
​@@kyoden1928whats wrong with new world now? seems the recent update is a step in the right direction. please don't tell me that you are one of those "only gear is content so theres no new content" people. thats just a silly way to think
@BKL909
@BKL909 27 күн бұрын
LMAOOOOOO 💀
@kyoden1928
@kyoden1928 27 күн бұрын
@@aries4378 yea it failed cuz lacked enough p2w for korean slaves and was being maintained by western audience? which btw were probably more people than the 4-7k new world had for a year Lol
@RobinT.H-D.E.S
@RobinT.H-D.E.S 26 күн бұрын
I'm so glad I was wrong about this game. It's a lot of fun. I hope they keep improving the performance though. For mid range rigs
@Nephilim2001
@Nephilim2001 27 күн бұрын
"With over 10 million downloads" is what you say when you don't want to tell how many active players you got.
@hedoingitsideways
@hedoingitsideways 27 күн бұрын
He literally shows the active players 0.1 seconds into the video....If you're having trouble reading, it's 150k at the time of making the video.
@Dihyyy
@Dihyyy 27 күн бұрын
​@@hedoingitsideways 150k looks pretty low to 30mln downloads when the game isnt even 3 months old
@ohaitoto8689
@ohaitoto8689 27 күн бұрын
I mean people gotta go to sleep and it's worldwide so one can assume that real active players is far more than 150k ​@@Dihyyy
@hedoingitsideways
@hedoingitsideways 27 күн бұрын
@@Dihyyy It's been 150k for a month...In comparison to Lost ark and New World (both way more popular), it has retained more players than both the above in a months time.
@billy_cross
@billy_cross 27 күн бұрын
@@hedoingitsideways first of all steam charts don’t show how many active players there are they show how many were playing at the highest peak concurrent hour and how many are playing at the moment? Any active player count number that come from that are mostly just guessing. What we do know is that it’s frequently about 184,000 people playing in the highest peak concurrent hour and in the wee hours of the morning Eastern time mind you it’s like 100,000 people playing, but those numbers are for steam alone I suspect, although no way to prove they’re much higher on and Xbox. Any case that’s not an active player account number. And as an example currently there are 100,000+ people playing the game at 4 AM Eastern time zone. In the last 24 hours the highest peak concurrent player count I.E the most people playing it in a given hour was 184,000, which has pretty much become the baseline
@That_Guy_You_Know
@That_Guy_You_Know 27 күн бұрын
I hope they watch this and actually fix these things. Great call outs. I've personally run into literally everything listed here.
@xTreyray
@xTreyray 26 күн бұрын
My girlfriend tried this game and her first complaint was “why can’t I have big titties, why do they only let me look like a boy”. They take away the ability for women to feel feminine, why? Do they think men are the only ones who want their FEMALE character to look like an actual woman? It’s so weird to me.
@silverancient7840
@silverancient7840 25 күн бұрын
Hush
@dramslife
@dramslife 25 күн бұрын
Great video. 3100 cp sns/staff and been loving the game. Most of your gripes I agree with. Especially the conflict bosses. Just feels ridiculous with guilds having 30+ people with flash wave wiping the whole player base.
@TheToxicFlow
@TheToxicFlow 27 күн бұрын
New world is actually really good now
@kyoden1928
@kyoden1928 27 күн бұрын
id play if the game didnt have wow classic animations in 2024
@ofensatul
@ofensatul 26 күн бұрын
Lol ppl still talking and playing NW have some serious issues 😂
@12SickOne34
@12SickOne34 26 күн бұрын
Good to see a more reflected long time impression after the heavily pink tainted 1st one.
@jaredh923
@jaredh923 27 күн бұрын
Throne and Liberty is THE MOST p2w game ive seen in the past 10+ years. Anyone who puts even 20-30 hours into this, reaching blue gear will see how ridiculously insane the levelup system is (That can be completely skipped with a credit card). You level up your Weapons, Armors, Accessories, AND skills, each requiring resources of their own tier which require multiple resources of the previous tier, which funnel down to grays. Its blatantly obvious to anyone who has played the game where its going. Getting to max level tier of even most of your gear/spells you use will be literally impossible without a creditcard, and as you approach that feat, a new update will add higher tiers to equipment, where the whales can then jump back ahead again, in an endless loop. Even hardcore NEETs who can invest 40+ hours a week into this game will realize the time gated mechanics stop you from competing with whales. KZbinrs talking about "meta" classes are completely moot, as no matter what class combo you are, you will NEVER be able to 1vs1 a whale, and reversely no matter the class combo of a whale, they will never lose if they actually try. Any youtubers saying this game is good, is most certainly being paid to do so. Yeah, the game is kinda fun, it plays like Archeage, but anyone investing time into this already has Stockholm syndrome, or are a paypiggy themselves.
@kyoden1928
@kyoden1928 27 күн бұрын
crazy copy pasta with actually little 0 game knowledge lets applause the effort
@_Diktator
@_Diktator 27 күн бұрын
@@kyoden1928 Okay, is any of it false?
@zxcasdqwe33
@zxcasdqwe33 27 күн бұрын
Being full traites in blue gear is the easiest fucking thing in this game. If you’re blue fully traited you’re strong as fuck already.
@kyoden1928
@kyoden1928 27 күн бұрын
@@_Diktator 10% of it ya
@_Diktator
@_Diktator 27 күн бұрын
@@kyoden1928 10% of it? Which means the rest is absolutely true.
@evolitile
@evolitile 27 күн бұрын
Great video, I agree with all of it, especially number 27, as I am a walker in all my games :)
@Aartwood
@Aartwood 27 күн бұрын
I remember the days when you couldn’t even jump in guild wars one! Let alone move when jumping lol The main pointless think in this game for me personally, on Xbox series x, world bosses drop to what feels like 2fps once everyone starts attacking, so it’s more for the achievements really unless in a massive guild. As a small guild of 4 we are loving the game but stay away from pvp as it’s way too hardcore for us in terms of gear. The dungeons and pve part of the game we love thankfully :D We had the eclipse issue on our server this week with junabote but they have already got bored of it and moved onto the tree boss with it now 💪 Great video though man, very well thought out and made 🎉
@niccoli003
@niccoli003 17 күн бұрын
A lot of valid points. Number 8 frustrates me a lot. Nothing like going into a pvp area, getting tossed in the air, nuked and never flagging before you hit the ground dead.
@RezBoaDawg
@RezBoaDawg 8 күн бұрын
Not having a boob slider is a big deal, but I'm seriously having a blast with this game.
@Kaeoooo
@Kaeoooo 26 күн бұрын
10:12 there’s literally a setting you can activate that bypasses that. It’s along the lines of “pick new target if using ability with no target selected”. I feel like it was a huge improvement to my QoL in combat. I also have the settings that puts auto attack and auto cancel on 1 singular key, and I find that convenient because it leaves one extra key for me to bind skills to.
@ursalight
@ursalight 24 күн бұрын
having some boonstone/riftstones be small scale 20 vs 20 or 30 vs 30 sounds like a crazy good idea
@Grumpskin
@Grumpskin 16 күн бұрын
dudeee waiting on your ashes video !!!!!
@gdrslukas4221
@gdrslukas4221 26 күн бұрын
Yes they should definitely fix all of the issues you listed up. Couldn’t have said it better
@bohdaicitta
@bohdaicitta 26 күн бұрын
great points, thanks for covering my points without me having to list them
@Frostgnaw
@Frostgnaw 25 күн бұрын
13:09 one of my favorite abilities in WoW is Death From Above. Having an ability that you can use to attack targets at a higher elevation and just the fact that it looks cool af makes it incredible in my book.
@vanillabro46
@vanillabro46 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for playing so I don't have to, Bruv. Onto AOC!!
@vedista
@vedista 27 күн бұрын
Excellent review mate !!!
@adrianenea5943
@adrianenea5943 24 күн бұрын
You provided a list of tasks for the de team!!! Start and fix this ASAP and this game will be the mega mmo what we all wish. Great video like always🎉!
@tkZombie_
@tkZombie_ 27 күн бұрын
Good video, would like to see general bugfixes on movement/terrain block things you mentioned. But also, for us Australian players there is no Australian servers (despite new world had them) there is only Oceania servers. So we are stuck on ~130 ms ping with no option but to take it. The jump puzzles get very frustrating when you rubber band back 50 metres. There's probably other locations that suffer from this too I'm guessing.
@virusx6233
@virusx6233 26 күн бұрын
I hope the Devs saw this Video, because im a End Game PvPer and this Targeting and some skills like you mentioned should be reworked asap
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