2019 Mustang GT PP2 vs Camaro SS 1LE - TRACK REVIEW // DRAG RACE & LAP TIMES

[@stevenc2071]

Finally a truly fair comparison, both are manuals, both are the track package option, and both are on the same tires.

[@thepioneer6178]

What's the price difference?

[@benendo9234]

@@thepioneer6178 They're pretty close - within a couple thousand. The mustang pp2 comes with pilot sc2 though, but they don't last very long. I switched out to ps4s.

[@user-qr7ee2cp4y]

And I would love to have either of them in my garage...

[@andrewflores2913]

Camaro is an auto wym lol

[@stevenc2071]

Andrew Flores no, the 1LE comes only in a manual

[@D-Man_Jam]

This is some of the best content I've seen on KZbin. no biased opinion, no unfairness, no bad-mouthing, just pure, rich automotive content.

[@Sahadi420]

And the fact that they look at more then just "what time did it do." I enjoy their comments on how the cars feel, and how they feel driving them.

[@warrengarcia884]

These cars are not the same. Run the GT with the 10 speed auto. Much faster than the six speed

[@Sahadi420]

@@warrengarcia884 not around a track......and the manual is the better "driver's car", which was what they wanted to compare. Auto is for drag racing only.

[@samimasood3954]

True

[@КириллЛукин-л9ъ]

Dgdufbfn functionality

[@s550danny]

I own a mustang but even I can’t deny that the SS 1LE is a track monster

[@shawnmacisaac5226]

Yeah, but a little fine tuning and I can pretty much Guarantee the Mustang will take out the Camaro. It's literally redefined to compete at multiple levels, including higher speeds smoother. The Camaro is literally all about that blow torque in your face as it should, but unfortunately won't admit to much on the highway against other greats. Like I said, take your GT and get it tuned, maybe go with Ethanol and you'll be fine on the Drag. GT has been proven to be funner and smoother, more stability in general and basically will do the same damn thing but with better end game results. I see too many people here in Cali racing on the freeway and if we are going that route, your Mustang should beat that Troque monster... I feel bad for saying that cause I love that Chevy made a true Muscle Car thats actually great on track : (.

[@R0CKSTAR023]

@@shawnmacisaac5226 Agreed. Ford leaves a lot on the table for the aftermarket, both in terms of power and handling, that you can build it for whatever you want and it will perform. For example, twin turbo Mustangs running 9s and destroying modified Demons :D

[@rileyneufeld7001]

@@TheLouke Lol the lt1 is ass compared to a gen3 coyote. The 18 mustang had gone 8.6's with stock motor and stock transmission. The Camaro is barely able to get into the mid 9's before the LT1 powdered rods clock out. On the highway the Camaro just gets walked even worse since it can't use it's torque at all.

[@rileyneufeld7001]

@@TheLouke lol I drive a GMC but okay... I'm not delusional I know that the coyote is a better platform than the LS/LT motors.

[@rawful502]

@@rileyneufeld7001LS/LT motors are good even into 8 seconds.... you must be delusional. I have a 2012 cts v coupe with a cam and bolt ons and I run mid 9s with drag radials and the car still has plenty of room to go if I wanted to do turbos which I probably won't. If you check out justa6 his coyote got rekt at about 1000hp. I've seen other youtubers with cars like StreetSpeed717 who had a Z06 that was making over 1200whp on pump gas.

[@Racer_Mike87]

Thanks for doing a proper test. 37 track days on my 1LE and zero issues

[@Racer_Mike87]

@Belgrave Wallace track Insurance is per event. An event could be one to three days but I always get it

[@drodriguez1724]

@@Racer_Mike87 how much does it cost per session? Like an average per day.

[@TUGRA14]

Hi do you still have the Camaro? I’m wondering if I should buy one too for track purposes and some weekend driving

[@mmf9765]

@@TUGRA14 yes ! 🙌

[@speedluvr1943]

Mine broke after 5 sessions. AFM lifter. Not mad. Getting it fixed and looking forward to more fun.

[@erikmacaluso]

"Gone are the days of boaty American cars." *Dodge* *Challenger* *has* *issued* *you* *a* *challenge*

[@themechanicred]

@ the unfortunate truth people go from fwd Honda civics to cars with descent power and lose there minds 😂

[@themechanicred]

@ yeah fuck safety right 😂

[@marcosmontiel2189]

@ nigga tr

[@Bigalinbklyn83]

I own a mustang and I must admit I love the challenger. Just has that classic look to it.

[@berky1976]

Challenger has no chance against these on a track, but I have it on my purchase list over these two for a number of reasons that I won't bother with here.

[@newvoice1935]

I think anyone that get either one of these cars is a winner, and cost less than a BMW

[@Iconhulk]

Mustang >

[@maxwelllevy5760]

m4 costs more and is slower than both of those cars

[@Helm113]

You mean supra?

[@memorychiedzo6172]

@@Helm113 well there is more than the m4 just performance you wont find cheap material on an m4 and its refined

[@jermainejpshepherd2778]

@@memorychiedzo6172 run the average person broke in shop repairs too. Lol.

[@jonasyracheta2185]

Camaro driver's wrist brace added extra 12 hp and 8 lbs of torque. 😂

[@mob1235]

increased scaphoid stiffness by 90%

[@rubberskilla2991]

Legend has it, he broke his wrist wacking off too hard to the Camaro before filming

[@mob1235]

@@rubberskilla2991 Or while fisting the exhaust

[@alexander1485]

or while warming his pp in the exhaust

[@MrNismopro]

If the Mustang would've had racing stripes it would've won.

[@Linknelson]

You guys were the First to do this with these cars head to head in the same vids, I feel like I'm not the only one who has waited for this quite a while, awesome vid guys

[@2aevensen]

No joke. I've been waiting for a good PP2 vs 1LE comparo.

[@dixinyamada3198]

2aevensen same

[@DivadNoodeldehm-lz2gm]

I hate it when they do PDK vs GM auto. Next up: Manual 911 VS Manual Corvette, same price point, or Manual cayman vs manual corvette, same price point.

[@taylorc2542]

I love it, this and the C/D comparison confirms that GM is just a step ahead of Ford in chassis engineering. It's the synergy and brain trust that GM has developed between the V-series, Camaro, and Corvette that puts them ahead. If you are a serious enthusiast and love to drive, you have to get the Camaro.

[@DivadNoodeldehm-lz2gm]

@@taylorc2542 It's years ahead of the Mustang on a real road track with the same tireset/brakeset.

[@markevans658]

What I learned from this is......buy the one you think looks the best.....they’re both awesome performers.

[@nkosimoyo3936]

Wow

[@TheBeebop420]

@@nkosimoyo3936 wow

[@TheBeebop420]

Wow

[@idku582]

Wow

[@vinichie]

Wow

[@cat-em3mj]

When american cars are better at that track than European ones Boomers: Confused pikachu face.

[@JPTHRICE]

lmaoo

[@relaxedguy496]

Okay. American car good. But when comes to curves Japanese car's. And the reason is. Most Americans car's are FR. And long n to wide. Witch mean if come to a sharp turn. You have to slow down. Because if you don't FR car will spin out of control. Urpion car's are so much worse. Like the marcidies car omg. And the jaguar. But Japanese car's are designed differently.

[@relaxedguy496]

Japines car's not so long n boky.

[@JPTHRICE]

@@relaxedguy496 lmaooo arigatouuu

[@rayyanali8545]

cat what about Mercedes Amg gtr

[@Mangobrain82]

The best version of the Camaro SS and Mustang GT out right now. Awesome time to be alive

[@Mangobrain82]

Jozer SS hardly man. The Camaro has come a long way. Especially interior. Mustang has gotten better and better since the 5.0 came out though.

[@Tusuperbis]

@@Mangobrain82 I agree, just bought a new 2020 1LE earlier this week. I absolutely love it! One of my buddies has a boss 302 and he loves it too! Says he wouldn't hesitate to buy one. Excellent performance for the money!

[@Johnny_Zoom]

2018 camaro 2SS is a little better

[@juanito6340]

@@Mangobrain82 I’ll give you visibility, interior wise the Camaro is so much nicer and feels not as cheap as the mustang

[@Mangobrain82]

@@juanito6340 newer Camaro I agree with you. The last 2 gens were very disappointing. I wish they could fit luggage and better use of the interior. Camaros are compact by todays standard.

[@wolfhorsky]

It looks like Top Gear did in its golden era. Great vid.

[@ravenstylea2]

wolfhorsky 💯% agree! 😊

[@Urajotoface]

Don't mention top gear 💔😭

[@qasually]

That blue looks so nice on the Camaro 😍

[@destinyjacobs8147]

Qasually ford blue lol

[@leesantos9711]

👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@qasually]

@@destinyjacobs8147 I'll assume you're talking about "grabber blue", and that's a bit darker than the blue on the Camaro. Js

[@lukes2097]

Grabber blue will always be the best color on a mustang.

[@zach891]

Qasually do you know the exact name of that blue ? I wanna get my camaro wrapped that color

[@pathwaysounds3025]

The GM Alpha platform is amazing and The 1le is a drivers car.

[@chelseanoellegallegos4778]

I’m addicted to your channel. Just got a 2020 Mustang GT started with watching videos about just mustangs vs other cars but I can’t stop watching all the videos! Love the format of the videos, informative and the footage is so good.

[@MrHenn1]

Pony Life 🤘🏾🏇🏾

[@southsidecompton9668]

I just bought a 2021 Mustang GT 5.0 it's a beast love it!

[@aamir1972]

3:20 "I am lighter weight than him... the car is lighter weight than him" lmao

[@josenavarrete8820]

he said his

[@darkstalkeralbatross5754]

3:23

[@Petrik_33]

Love both💚 Would take the Camaro personally, but both are amazing machines!

[@LONGWALDO]

Zilla 46 I have had both, Camaro is better.

[@RRR-jd2oy]

I have both mustang is definitely better

[@209DaddyMack]

Raul Rey one of y’all lying lmao

[@joshuafallet5690]

It's all opinions. Objectively the mustang is easier to daily, the camaro is easier to track. Just from a driver perspective (visibility).

[@sudiproach]

@@JSIV-j7p it is not outsourced. It's assembled in Lansing Grand River Michigan.

[@JoseLikesCars-ln9qc]

Motortrend had me looking at the Camaro 1LE, but you guys were the ones who made me buy one. Well done.

[@johnkontos3227]

how do you like it? looking to sell my 370z for one

[@rocksjoshua]

@Vinny Booboo Imo, the Mustang looks more sexy and sleek, while the Camaro looks more mean and aggressive. I feel like for daily driving the Mustang is a better car, but on-track performance, the 1le is better. Both are great cars though.

[@ABlueevo1]

If you're considering a 6th gen ss 1le dont think twice. My 19 is a amazing all around car. I love it even more then the 2012 m3 I had

[@raulp6573]

I have a 2018 Mustang GT and really really enjoy it. But can't stop thinking about the camaro too. It's nice as well. I feel both are good muscle cars. Comes down to preference.

[@gtrance3567]

Great car but better weekend car than daily driver. IMO

[@doubletee4391]

Ive noticed a tread with a lot of the youth automotive journalists where they know facts but when they actually speak about the car it doesn't make sense. Like they don't understand driving or something. I just stumbled across this channel and pleasantly surprised. You guys sound and act like legit cars guys that like to drive cars like they are supposed to be driven. Keep up the good work.

[@NotLilWien]

This is incredible! The tires are the same, the same driver and people don't argue in the comments!

[@tweeter05ify]

For Real!!! almost unheard of fantastic video and cars well done

[@Lefty_Knox13]

The little one was OBVIOUSLY biased towards the Camarillo, so do I think it was fair. No! Plus I own that exact Mustang and I roast Camaros regularly. 🤣

[@dystantmind7254]

😂😂

[@tee2x965]

@@Lefty_Knox13 your car lost bro just take dat L lol

[@ashes2ashes863]

@@Lefty_Knox13 if only the people you think your beating are as willing to lose their license as you, then your races would go just like this Mustangs did everytime.

[@NeutralGenericUser]

I love your track videos, but please mention the price in the beginning when you're comparing specs (and also maybe put up a chart on screen with HP, torque, price, options, etc.? Thanks guys. Keep up the excellent work :)

[@0gsrV]

NeutralGenericUser that would be great

[@_E_B_]

Or...just dont be lazy and look up the prices on these 2 cars yourself. There is such a thing called Google. And it will easily bring you to these things called websites. Specifically Ford's website and Chevrolet. In the time it took for you to read my comment...you could have looked up the price on at least one of these cars. Nobody should hold your hand as you walk thru life...😉😜🤣

[@TeflonNapkins]

@@_E_B_ These cars are equipped differently with different options. You can't "Google" the price of these specific cars dumbass.

[@nigel_white]

@@TeflonNapkins Based on what I see in the video... GT Premium Fastback with Orange Fury paint, Performance Pack Level 2, and Active Valve Performance Exhaust: $59,775 CDN. Camaro 1SS with 1LE Package, Performance Data Recorder, 1LE Hash Mark Decal: $56,180CDN. But, the pricing can be very misleading unless you go into a lot of detail about what is actually included in that price, in order to do an apples to apples comparison. However, from my experience, most people just see the numbers and ignore all the details anyway. So, I question the value of including the price in the video. You should research the cars yourself and take the time to actually understand what you are getting for the money.

[@natek1993]

I was going to comment the exact same thing. Every video should include this.

[@julioangel1839]

James made that drag race look so casual in that Camaro while Thomas looked like he was racing for his life. Good race guys

[@99-Zulu]

@@KeithSchwerin I'd wager quite a bit, because you are not having to lose acceleration while shifting gears. I know some people can change gears fast and without losing acceleration. But for the average person that no lift shift feature will make you feel like a track star.

[@ThePraveshchauhan]

No matter how dark, wild your horse 🐴 is. We still love our #bumblebee

[@HEATHENS5074]

what is bubblebee

[@thefoxoropeza7906]

@@HEATHENS5074 the camaro

[@gautam2550]

Does your country have roads??

[@HEATHENS5074]

@@thefoxoropeza7906 ahhh

[@HEATHENS5074]

@@gautam2550 it does

[@khyoon14]

i'd buy the camaro for the simple fact that it looks more aggressive

[@jasong9502]

khyoon14 you sound like a woman... as long as it comes in pink too eh

[@zach4604]

@bodarya OMG yeah and the 6.2 has 455hp not 460hp like the 5.0

[@zach4604]

@bodarya OMG yeah and it’s pretty easy to make a mustang have 600hp too. They’re both good cars man, just pointing out that the 5.0’s displacement doesn’t hold it back

[@AtH1338]

I'm deciding between the two and the Camaro is an ugly car that you cant see out of. Dont care if it's faster than the Mustang

[@sergiogarcia9822]

Zach it is easy to get 600hp with forced induction, otherwise you will not get 600hp at least from a 5.0 mustang which I own, I’m almost sure that it is the same story with the camaro.

[@PuffPuffPassTheJenkem]

The key thing Thomas said was the mustang is more fun so that’s why I bought one. I’ll openly admit the camaro is better on the track though. Why can’t all gear heads just get along and appreciate amazing cars though?

[@JamesW7723]

Depends who’s driving the car. My mustang GT frequently beats SS and 1le packages and I have a lot of experience on the track. Also they got the horsepower wrong on the mustang it’s should be 480 not 460.

[@Arcamensios]

Throttle, you know you're doing things right with a comparison like this when your comment feed has minimal excuses about why their car should have won. Kudos! Wonderful video. I would like to see more of this SAME TIRE comparison. This is such a argument destroyer lol

[@democracy_is_truth7620]

Im sold on that 1le It looks badass and seems to back that up in performance too

[@lukecrossman3170]

Democracy_is_truth I love the matte black hood also🥰😫

[@Tusuperbis]

I just bought a new 1LE earlier this week. I absolutely love it!

[@reggiewillis77]

@@Tusuperbis it is worth the extra 7,000 dollars is it not my wife definitely loves our 1le over the ss we had

[@aidenarkham]

Yeah except when it breaks down lol

[@colleenbeckt4956]

@@aidenarkham Someone wanna get this butthurt fanboi some prep H?.....

[@03c5z]

Love them both. Im glad to see the US producing great sports cars.

[@SuperFredrickh]

Sounds fair. I just bought my 2019 camaro ss standard and I love it. Both are beautiful cars but I've had a thing for camaro since forever.

[@eliubfj]

That's great, If you replace the air filter with a K&N performance one you'll thank me later!

[@SuperFredrickh]

Jesus Ortiz it’s kinda got something like that already. Instead of the black box it came with a cold air intake style filter. I’ll try to track you down and send you a pic

[@harshanbajwa]

fredrick houston same here

[@Tusuperbis]

I'm looking into the rotofab cai. All the guys at race proven motorsports swear by them!

[@Deadeye60]

@@Tusuperbis I run a Roto Fab in my 19 SS 1LE. Loads better.

[@devn3818]

the track speeds were interesting cuz the mustang definitely carried more speed through corners which is really impressive but the fact that the camaro was able to make up for that in the straights is also impressive

[@Dynoids]

I would have expected the opposite to be true, that the camaro would carry more speed through the corners.

[@peperodriguez9961]

Sorry your right. Camaro

[@wesleywalls7582]

Two phenomenal cars...amazing time to be alive!

[@Sinoops]

I think they are close enough you should just buy which ever one you think looks/sounds better

[@motionelco]

Sinoops 1.2 seconds is a lot at the track . Pretty close besides that though.

[@Detz0325]

You should do that from the start lol, the average person isn't going to track their car that they need to buy the faster one on track.

[@motionelco]

Ginjabredman that’s what this episode is all about though lol.

[@Detz0325]

@@motionelco ya but I wasn't talking about the video I was talking the persons comment about which one to buy realistically.

[@snowconeman512]

I think they both look and sound good

[@Jimster481]

This is a great video comparing. MotorTrend has also done this and came out with the same result. The Camaro is unstoppable lol

[@tomaslopez2940]

3:52 I could listen to those roaring engines all day!!😍😍

[@gaius_marius]

Forget about Top Gear, this is my favorite car channel. That track is such a fun place to bring these classic rivals. Great job guys!

[@thedoomslayer2468]

I watched this video a year ago DEADSET that I was going to get the Mustang GT PP. Now it’s one year later and I’m the proud of a Chevy Camaro SS and I don’t regret it.💪🏼

[@cre2368]

Made the right decision going for the SS, and this is coming from a former GT350 owner

[@mr.c493]

I love my ‘14 mustang GT. But damn these two cars are awesome. It’s great to see that both names are still competing. That blue looks amazing!!

[@Dolby109]

Great video and editing guys! One tip. For windows down driving at speed, take at least one camera, and get an external mic, and stick the mic in the glove box. You'll get great engine noise, without any of the wind noise.

[@andrewmitrica8897]

underrated comment

[@harpz902]

Those Mustang GT PP2’s are unreal !!

[@bobjohnson7972]

That camaro is gorgeous as hell love it

[@darrius362]

I absolutely love this channel!! You guys are awesome from the skits to the actual reviews!!

[@berkleybargo2621]

The blue on the camaro looks so good😍

[@joshtaylor3818]

Should have switched driver’s on the drag race.

[@juancruz-jg5pq]

Josh Taylor also both vehicles are extremely heavy , the zl1 weight close to 4.000 lbs , thats 1100 lbs heavier than a Porsche cayman gt4 and 400 lbs heavier than a 4 door sedan 2018 bmw M3 . Definitely not authentic race vehicles . Extremely heavy

[@joshtaylor3818]

I know.

[@jessemurray1757]

@@juancruz-jg5pq that's great except for the fact that the car isn't a zl1, its a 1LE

[@juancruz-jg5pq]

Josh Taylor even worst the 1LE its heavier than this one. Its fat and needs a diet asap

[@kace002pumpkinwizard]

@@juancruz-jg5pq they have big American V8's... just they way we like it

[@mauricejones3387]

Really Really great review. One of the best I have seen. No BS just real experience with the carsm. Drag race was like anyone on the street would do. No lowered tire pressures, burn outs, etc

[@nothingbutfaxx]

Finally! A fair comparison. Couldn’t find any vids like this on youtube.

[@remissiveslave]

Need more than 159k subs. Deserve many times more.

[@XUncleBossX]

I just rolled down to comments to say that exact same thing 😂

[@GolnatP]

Thomas = Canadian Stig Great driving and great review as always! It’s great to see the cars with the same tire and driver.

[@Ryan-qr8yl]

Finally an actual real comparison. No bullshit, no having to subscrbibe to a trial offer. Quality content of the best muscle cars.

[@chrisrake8914]

I have a 2018 SS 1LE. I love it!! Such a great car.

[@chrisrake8914]

As so do I. I love it.

[@bferg9264]

Ok bro I need some help!!! I'm trying to decide on a fun daily driver!! Right now my choices are G37s, Audi S6(c7) ATS V, Chevy SS, I want to say Camaro ss 1le but I'm hearing too many complaints about the blind spots!!

[@ishdafish9148]

​@@bferg9264 bro, I own a camaro and you'll get used to it. And on top of that, you can get blind spot monitoring which does most of it for you. Trust me it's worth it!

[@7.62x39-b]

In 20 years we are going to miss the sound of this amazing cars on the streets. Im glad they exits, and existed.

[@epa316]

I like how youtube interrupts this video with an ad thinking I'd be interested in a CR-V.

[@michaelsharp5464]

Kudos for a BS-free comparison!

[@Accost2u]

Could you guys line up a 500 abarth vs Mini Cooper S?? For that subcompact go-kartiness fun

[@loki_wolff]

def want to see them in an abarth

[@payasofeo69]

🤮

[@Accost2u]

HaB22 breaking down in style lol

[@rj9617]

@HaB22 lol!

[@jcolt84]

Get a Fiesta ST.

[@eddiet204]

As a 7 time Mustang owner, one test drive in the Camaro 1LE convinced me that it’s the better car. Hands down, in every performance metric and seat of the pants fun, you cannot go faster, easier, for so little money. I drove mine bone stock at Laguna and I can attest that this car needs nothing. I drove my friend’s GT350 hard and it’s still not as good a car. Sorry Ford, just being real here. The 1LE reigns supreme!

[@itssDrake]

My dad has the 19 Mustang Gt Premium. I got to admit its fast but not as fast as the Camaro.The thing is the Mustang sounds more beastly or muscle like. Most Camaro SS I see their not that loud.

[@deca3928]

Wolf EffectzX so does my dad 😂

[@unfairsanic5089]

Tune the mustang and it will be more faster than camaro

[@k.hamilton5848]

The mustang is faster stock for stock lol

[@k.hamilton5848]

In the video its both manual so its a drivers race, but the mustang is quicker stock

[@jhaylabradley]

Wolf EffectzX it’s just that Mustang is wayyy to loud

[@rv6ejguy]

Great test. Love that you went to the trouble to get them on the same tires (tyres for James). The video production gets better every time and is among the best out there for car reviews. My fav YT channel for car reviews now. Glad summer is here so we can see more track shootouts. Keep up the great work guys!

[@BigInjun05]

Bad ass vehicles. I own a mustang but I'd grab Camaro too.

[@tarantulamadness6191]

I own a 1995 mustang XD. I still love it, it's also a convertible.

[@JT-yz4rj]

I had a 1999 Z28 6 speed Camaro in high school and a 1999 GT convertible 5 speed 3 years after. Traded the Camaro for a Silverado, but I miss it. Never had a problem with either. Camaro with the LS1 was MUCH faster than the GT but the GT was a sweet ride, fun to drive, steered a little better, and felt lighter. Wouldn’t complain about either one of them.

[@KiingPoop]

You don’t deserve to drive a mustang😑

[@BigInjun05]

@@KiingPoop you have a mustang? I'll teach you how to drive it. Disclosure, I dont lift.

[@tarantulamadness6191]

@@BigInjun05 Mustangs are like, not hard to drive, they are supposed to be user friendly. That old concept that mustang drivers cant drive is only there because mustang drivers can afford a cool car and do stupid shit, and ya we get out of hand but only cuz we spent money on a machine capable of far more than its intended. I drifted my stang into a curb the other day, totally fucked up my rear left axle shaft and need to replace it cuz its fucking up my rotor and brakes. I didn that cuz i wanted to and had a car that could manage it, maybe i am a bad mustang driver, i regretted every second of it hearing my wheel seep air out. as my two stupid friends are like YAAA THAT WAS DOPE and im like no, it fucking wasnt. I got home on my deflating wheel in time, and now i need a new axle shaft, already bought a new wheel becuase i fucked it up. Now i cant drive till i get paid and have the moeny to buy my part. luckily my dads a mechanic and will help me install it but fuck, just, dont be a retard like i was, im a great driver, i was just trying to show off.

[@SShaBazzz]

These cars are beautiful. Great machines. These cars have come a long way.

[@sd5775]

I didn't buy my Mustang for the track, I bought it because I thought it looked better. The performance are quite miniscule if you think about it and it truly comes down to the driver.

[@wisewigga7129]

Not really miniscule but to you it definitely is because you won't track it or race, and yeah mustang is the better daily driver because of visibility

[@Kev2980]

If any of you are watching this and are stuck on deciding between the camaro and the mustang like I was a few months ago, I'm not going to tell you what to choose, but the blind spots in the camaro really aren't that bad, yes the windows are smaller, yes the blind spots are there, but every car had blind spots, its just a little harder to see them in the camaro. However after a few days in the camaro it feels completely natural, you don't have to "struggle" for visibility, I've never had any close calls when changing lanes, the blind spot detection feature is accurate and trustable, the windows are all big enough to see out of and actually makes you feel like you're in a special sports car. So if you want the camaro performance but you were on edge because of visibility, well there ya go 🙂 can't go wrong with a stang either, but I'm glad I went with camaro

[@FL50ssp]

So what you are telling me is all of these media rags and youtube stars are wrong? How can this be, I'm confused... can't think for myself. Quick someone, please tell me what to think/do. You must be mistaken here because the mob can't be wrong, right? LOL I own a 2019 SS 1LE and you are correct about the overblown visibility BS. As for everything else you are again correct. It's unfortunate that the world we live in is full of people that just latch on to whatever the popular spin of the week is. And can't be bothered to do the research for themselves. Glad you are enjoying your Camaro, great choice and car.

[@jseaton7992]

Great video. Good to see drag race and track times. Keep up the good work.

[@venom999333]

Keep growing the channel! Honestly, one of the best car review channel I have come across!! Canadian 🇨🇦 eh??

[@birthdaygrave_]

The shots in this video were sooooo goooooood 🔥

[@philbertlovely7724]

Having driven them back-to-back, the Mustang is a fast car that you can comfortably daily drive with its spacious interior and excellent dampening, whereas the Camaro feels like more of a weekend car with its stiff suspension setup and tight quarters. Given this result, I'm not surprised by the 1 second improvement with the Camaro due to the sacrifices that where made compared to the Mustang. In essence, it comes down to what you'll be using the car for. Both are splendid in their own respects.

[@reefraider954]

Really good content. Plenty of channels have done it, but you've done it properly. Honest comparison of two track focused muscle cars. Ford and Chevrolet have come a long way with these two cars and although popular they are still highly underrated.

[@evanescent0311]

Now we need an updated comparison: newest GT350, m2 competition, SS1LE. super torn between these three! also: M5 competition vs 992 4S.

[@Linknelson]

Gt350 is quite a bit more money wise and HP wise, a little unfair for the Camaro. Crazy how capable that 1LE is to even be compared to the GT350, Chevy did a solid job

[@Linknelson]

@@ender2664 right I know lol I saw that, I'm for the 1LE I was just saying how it's crazy how it's in the same playing field, esp on how expensive the 350 is.. and it has more power and the 1LE still hangs

[@evanescent0311]

link nelson more money and HP but similar performance .... GT350 has a little more “special limited edition engine” feel and more unique (better?) sound, but is the extra $20k worth it? I saw an SS1LE for $38k USD the other day... what a bargain. hard pressed to find a GT350 for under $60k especially with markups.

[@evanescent0311]

timothy clancy I saw that ... it’s a great car! I actually had an SS 1LE once and loved it. got rid of it for some odd reason but would def get another.

[@evanescent0311]

timothy clancy GT350 is easier to live with on the road, I’m sure. The ZL1 1LE is an animal and even the basic ZL1 is also a consideration. The ZL1 (+/- 1LE) is a heavier front car and although it is way more capable, is that worth it? I don’t race for pink slips and the SS1LE certainly isn’t slow, already has great seats, suspension, exhaust, tires, PDR, brakes ...... not sure if all that extra is necessary for a fun/dramatic ride at $30k more? At $80k I start looking at things like 718 GTS, M2 Comp, base 992 (sure they’re more, but that’s how the game works ... slowly looking at more expensive cars until you’re in a Mclaren Senna

[@IMGONEIN60]

Interesting results but FYI the PP2 Mustang beat the SS 1LE by 1 second in car and driver’s lightning lap results at VIR. The Shelby GT350R Beat the PP2 Mustang by two seconds at VIR...

[@clutchthepearls3062]

That could come down to driver and track too. TH said the Mustang feels more planted whereas the Camaro gets more upset by bumps. C&D aren't professionals by any means, so the Mustang being more comfortable to push harder could explain those LL times.

[@robertofigueroa5011]

That was different days and drivers, drivers matter quite a bit. Motor trend had Randy Pobst drive both, albeit on different days, and the 1le was faster.

[@ssoffshore5111]

Did they both have the same tires on them like they did here. This to me is more apples to apples.

[@robertofigueroa5011]

@@ssoffshore5111 they didn't, they had the oem's. Same as when the motortrend ran them and the 1le won. Same tires helped for sure since the psc2's are the best but the Camaro would have done fine with the stock oem's and would have most likely won still. The problem here was that the Camaro they used didn't have oem Goodyear's to begin with. In the episode where they did the road comparison it was wearing ps4's which are not as good as the psc2's or the Camaros oem Goodyear supercar 3's.

[@jmm1174]

But in Laguna Seca is the other way around. Professional driver Randy Pobst from MT has better lap times in the Camaro.

[@SSDracerSD]

Awesome guys! Now keep a time board and update it as you keep doing track comparisons. It would give a nice perspective for the future track tests.

[@ThrottleHouse]

Yep! We have enough times now to start doing a board

[@bmorphizzle5190]

This!! 🤙🏼Definitely a review comparison chart would be a great touch to the channel...but something unique. Not copying the “Doug Score” 💤💤

[@OctaneStreet]

The Mustang is actually such an amazing car... Ecoboost or v8 it doesn't matter... the car PERFORMS amazing regardless.

[@vernonprice5986]

Just not as amazing as the Camaro.

[@avinavpradhan3829]

I would love to see a track test between the shelby mustang gt500 carbon fibre track pack and camaro zl1 le.

[@GhassanAlHarthy]

Awesome review, really wanted to see this battle. Thank you!

[@InsinuacionOfficial]

Great review! I’m glad you did the tire upgrade on the Camaro to keep things even. You guys look like you had a ton of fun making this video! Great job!

[@fathersweek]

Really enjoyed the video. I’ve always admired you guys and your auto comparison choices. I thought it was brilliant that you avoided upsetting dealers/manufacturers by doing unorthodox (to say the least) comparisons. That way you avoid upsetting half your audience and auto suppliers. Yet you guys always come-off as completely authentic in your final judgment. Brilliant. You always highlight the strengths off each car. Brilliant. Any criticism you do share is always constructive. Brilliant. I’m not sure if anyone else has figured out your formula to making informative and entertaining car review videos, but I think you have something magical going here. I have no doubt that you will eventually be picked up by a network for broadcasting on TV/cable if you decide to head that direction. Keep up the great work guys and let me know if I can help out in any way. (Besides liking/subscribing).

[@jamesengelsman9369]

Thanks mate! Really kind words. Liking and subscribing will do for now :) We are going to keep at it in the meantime

[@scoobsshrooms109]

James Engelsman dude, are u gonna buy a camaro, looks like you really like driving it every time your in one, seen every camaro vid with you in it, u should go for it

[@xavier_acg5042]

I don’t know what it is but I can’t stop myself from watching throttle house review and race mustangs

[@chrisdblue]

You guys are killin it! Keep up the great work! ❤️

[@enthused7591]

Nice. What's crazy is I love everything about the Camaro more than the Mustang; namely the engine due to torque, simplicity and reliability, the 6 speed Tremec trans due to durability, the interior, the entire chassis balance and handling. The Camaro IS the better car top to bottom. And still, I'd HAVE to buy the mustang because I'd be doing 95% street driving, and the 2015-2019 Mustang is one of the single best looking cars ever made for any price (to my eyes) and the Camaro is just "ok" looking.

[@jmm1174]

The Camaro is also great for street driving. The only advantage of the Mustang: better looks and better exhaust. All the other advantages in performance go to the Camaro

[@rogerp4612]

Great vid and two great cars. A privilege to own either, I'm sure - but I prefer the overall aesthetics of the Mustang and the comparatively panoramic view out of the sides and rear. The lap times are cool to know, but the fact that the Mustang felt more fun to drive (and the reasons why) was of greater informational importance to me.

[@jaxoneering5469]

I have test driven the base GT and SS both in the last two weeks and hands down for me the driving experience in the Mustang has been much more to my liking. Also the visibility in the mustang is like 500% better. The front end of the 2019 SS (not the 2018 in this video) is a mistake over the 18. I'm leaning more to the Mustang but I will try them both again before I make my decision before buying.

[@mizinoinovermyhead.7523]

Let me just point out that the m2 comp is what everyone thinks of when they think sports cars. These two beat it. Can we stop calling them pony cars and call them what they are? These aren't muscle cars, the only one of those left is the challenger, these are sports cars.

[@nelsonvanvickle8862]

And let me just point out that I wouldn't swap my Rs3 for either of these cars. And the M2 is STILL a monster...

[@mizinoinovermyhead.7523]

@@nelsonvanvickle8862 The RS3 is not a sports car or a muscle car. Its a sport sedan, different class dude, two extra doors. These would also cream it.

[@nelsonvanvickle8862]

@@mizinoinovermyhead.7523 The Rs3 is NOT A SPORTS CAR? LOLOL!!!! Dude, did you actually write that? Did you bother to give any forethought to that statement before you decided to wrote it? Lol!! Please enlighten me then, what, in your assessment is a 2.5 liter turbo charged 400 hp, all wheel drive subcompact? A really fast go-cart?? Btw, my business partner has a 19' zl1 and we've gone head to head in both 0-60 duels and rolling starts several times. He's never been able to beat me. So I'm not sure wtf you're talking about, because with Quattro, launch control and a far superior power to weight ratio he's green with envy just about every time we square up. I get that the Audi is a sedan, but ask anybody who actually owns one and they will definitely attest to its sports car characteristics...

[@mizinoinovermyhead.7523]

@@nelsonvanvickle8862 Sports cars are coupes, sport sedans are sedans. Has nothing to do with performance. It's just four doors verse 2 doors. People who buy an audi rs3 don't tend to cross shop them against camaros and mustangs despite similar prices. They don't cross shop them against M2's either, despite similar performance and size. It is a different type of car. It has nothing to do with performance. The RS3 weighs 3,593 lbs, and has 394 hp and 354 ft-bls of torque hitting peak at 1700 rpm. The 1LE weighs 3,685 and has 455 hp and 455 torque at 4400 rpm. You beat it cause you hit peak torque sooner with about 100 lbs less weight. Of course if you only care about roll ons and drag races then yes buy the turbo machine they usually hit peak torque early and often punch above their weight class. Around a track the 1LE will likely out perform it. Yes the RS3 has awd lauch out of the corners, but there isn't much difference in weight, while there is a huge difference in grip between the two cars. I'd bet the 1LE will carry much more speed through the corners, brake later, and so on.

[@Texarmageddon]

Mizino: In Over My Head. The mustang was and always was a sports car Smdh... The car was never that damn big to begin with so if that’s your soul justification for a pony car then get out of here. The GT is on the back of the car for a reason. It was just a sporty coupe from the beginning and still is just that. It’s handling has sucked all these years, because this might come to you as a surprise, BUT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE CAR WAS TO BE A CHEAP SPORT COUPE. Get off this whole stupid ass “muscle car or pony car” bullshit and read up on the history of these cars. The cars sucked at handling and had cheap ass interiors, because the whole idea of the car was to be cheap as fuck and as fast as possible. So if you want to be technical about what they are and have always been..... they are Gran Touring sport coupes.

[@krishumphrey3777]

The nls feature is awesome and sounds great, but it pulls so much timing in order to achieve that feature that it is actually faster to shift normally (as long as you are a fast shifter). I have tested this on mine and had faster times every time

[@official.akashsingh]

Bumblebee is always perfect ♥️

[@MJK8TheSimRacingDad]

Just an FYI if you are running full assists off in track mode, you could have overriden the suspension from track to sport to slightly soften it up if it felt too harsh on the track. Under vehicle settings in the infotainment screen.

[@Britman78]

Great Video as always. Any chance we could see the PP2 mustang vs the GT350? Genuinely curious how close the two cars actually are.

[@jmm1174]

Please include also the SS1LE VS the Shelby GT350

[@YOSHI450R]

I've seen a gt350 vs a pp2 GT base model no extra options and the GT350 was around two to two and a half seconds faster around driven by the same guy. The 350r would have widened that gap even further. The Camaro is better out of the box because of Cadillac's racing program with the Ats-v. So GM has dumped millions in research into that chassis and dialed it in before the Camaro even used that chassis. Ford on the other hand doesn't take that same approach, they leave you in the hands of aftermarket companies such as maximum motorsports. The PP2 is for guys who just want a little more grip who might do one track day a year it's more suited for twisty roads. If you want to build a track monster you buy a base car and hop online to buy aftermarket parts. Which has always been the Mustang way. Ford gives you a canvas to build on while GM is more paint by numbers. Two different approaches but both amazing cars. If you don't want to dive into modding and building a car the Camaro is a better car, if you want to build a car the Mustang is a better car. The aftermarket support reflects that as well the only vehicle you can buy that rivals the Mustangs aftermarket support is the jeep wrangler. Personally I'd like to mix both cars together. Give me that ats-v chassis with the coyote engine and the Camaro's trans with the looks of a Mopar and the interior of a 911 and it'd be my ideal car.

[@jpolimus]

The 2019 GT350 will eat both of them easily due to the improvements made for that model year. On VIR a 2016 gt350 was faster than the 1le by 4 seconds both on stock tires

[@jmm1174]

@@jpolimus Probably was the "R" but the ZL1 & ZL1 ZL1 1LE would beat that Shelby easily

[@erwan7]

@@jpolimus 350r was 3 sec faster. 2019 350r has non improvments. and 350 is slower on most of the tracks than 1le.

[@santiagocalderon3261]

Am I the only one who prefers the mustang?

[@jeremyhuggins8796]

No you are not. I have that exact same Mustang except for the transmission. I

[@jasonlommen4769]

Love this channel. Great comparison. I’m a Mustang junkie, I’m still taking the original Pony!

[@azizbeklatipov5586]

My lovely car is Camaro 😍🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@parkerwalls3337]

YES! Totally support having the cars on the same tires. Anyone who actually tracks their car will have track tires for that purpose, and it's never made much sense to me to compare car performance with car A on one tire, and car B on another that sometimes isn't even in the same class of tire. I wish more auto journalist would do this!

[@FL50ssp]

Sounds like you haven't been to many track days. Plenty of people track new cars on the OEM tires. Matter of fact in the case of the SS 1LE, ZL1 and Z1LE the OEM tires are very good and really only bettered by a true R comp tire. By the way when was the last time you bought a new car and changed the OEM tires for aftermarket to run a track day? Have you priced out tires for 20"x10" and 20"x12" wheels recently? Probably not.

[@parkerwalls3337]

@@FL50ssp Well, people who just do open track days or are just starting, sure, but most anyone who really is pushing the cars to where these type of performance tests are actually relevant, or people who are doing track days on a regular basis, will have track tires. And yeah, the Pilot Cup 2s are a track tire, and some cars do come with those, but a PS4S isn't, and I'm just saying if one of these was on a PS4S and one on Cup 2s, that wouldn't be fair.

[@TheAlchemistZero1]

Brilliant channel, deserves millions of subscribers

[@SGTRacing]

Awesome runs guys and great comparison!

[@_Colt]

I’m a proud Chevy guy, and I’ll tell you right now I simp for the Camaro, all gens and all trims lol. It’s still the monster today it always was, and I love that. The only thing I think the Mustang has over the Camaro is a sometimes better sounding engine, I’ll give em that. Anything else, sorry, Camaro all the way baby! Great video y’all

[@AwesomeDude799]

"I live my life a quarter mile at a time." Never heard that one before. 🤔 Awesome quote.

[@Movie-tf4yd]

The intelligent world went to metric, but "I live my life .402336 of a kilometer at a time !" sucks.

[@AwesomeDude799]

@@Movie-tf4yd I love Movie 43.

[@pkradgreek]

awesome that you put the same tires on. Hopefully you can keep testing cars on the same tire.

[@remissiveslave]

You guys make some of the best contact pur there. Great video.

[@WOT122]

Both cars killer quick but that Camaro won by a good margin 1.2 sec is alot! I'm a Mustang fan too.

[@rocksjoshua]

The Mustang is a great car, but the Camaro is a better track car for sure. But I think the Mustang is better for daily driving, both are great cars, Chevy and Ford are really competing with each other in the sports car segment.

[@LONGWALDO]

I had both and the Camaro is better all round. Currently have a 2019 pp1

[@SShaBazzz]

I actually wouldnt agree. 1.2 is a good margin but we also have to take into account human error. Human error does come into account.

[@WOT122]

@@SShaBazzz given your average human your right....I wonder how consistent he is

[@patrickmartin2689]

@@SShaBazzz especially in a qt mile drag race "shifting" is everything advantage goes to Camaro...✌✌✌✊✊✊

[@reggier2343]

This is a top 5 auto review channel for sure!

[@EpicGamer1.]

I’m buying a 5th gen Camaro soon, I can’t wait.

[@leejackson1546]

Great video! The noise these cars make is breathtaking! Love it! - Personally going off looks alone, it has to be the Mustang; but I can't deny how good that Camaro is. You could see that he could get the power down much earlier in the corners

[@scoobsshrooms109]

Camaro looks better, mustang needs a face lift

[@hacklaurent9412]

Hearing those beauties take off are music to my ears

[@jmm1174]

The Mustang sounds better. I compared my Camaro SS to a Mustang GT PP1. And the one in the Mustang is amazing 👍

[@anguselliott9845]

Definitely Favourite car channel! Keep up the good work guys!

[@jhaylabradley]

I vote Camaro without even watching🙃😀

[@j_mars_cars]

Seeing the subscriber count at 135k just 5 years ago… and approaching 3 million now is amazing!