2024 Mustang GT Performance vs Camaro SS 1LE // DRAG RACE and LAP TIMES

[@samsharma9207]

There was a moment where I thought Carston was actually going to take off with the real goats in the back!

[@paskowitz]

PETA: REEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeee... eeeeeeeeee

[@M7_Saffar]

For moment thought he will smoke them both

[@vintagetriplex3728]

@@M7_Saffar I knew the pick up was gonna get left behind. 700 horsepower in a pick up truck won't help you win. A pick up with 700 horsepower will never beat cars with 400+ horsepower.

[@mediocreman2]

That was the point

[@oldschool6268]

I would love to have seen the real goats at the end of the track eating grass. 😅😂

[@jm-alan]

That powerslide transition from James in the Camaro to Thomas in the Mustang was golden years Top Gear level. A+

[@fillertext778]

agreed, the timing was too perfect

[@mustangmike3830]

I didnt think anyone would catch that. One of so many reasons i love this channel!

[@GoodFoodShared]

Oh it was absolutely perfect, made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck 👌

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@mustangmike3830what about Plymouth Superbird?

[@Tom-op1pv]

Just came here to say the exact same thing

[@byronjabbar1989]

That monologue for the Camaro around the track was like a scene a movie scene. Very well said with passion.

[@JTSuarez]

Carston kicking the goat out of anger has to be one of the funniest clips I’ve seen

[@markgt894]

Yeah hilarious….

[@brandonnickerson3077]

Agreed 😂

[@russellwestbrook6397]

@@markgt894who shit in your cereal

[@markgt894]

@@russellwestbrook6397 no one, it’s hilarious. Just so dam amusing.

[@bozziovai]

tell me the time frame please .......

[@IDv8I]

The intro kings of KZbin, you never let us down boys. Thanks for the review.

[@ZesPak]

You mean the GOATs.

[@IDv8I]

@@ZesPak I see what you did there, well played, lol.

[@richardmead5969]

what? why files, zeducation, kallme kris, terry solomon don`t count? love the show but kings, lmao

[@IDv8I]

@@richardmead5969 Confused, but I do love their vlog intros, makes me laugh.

[@TakunTakun]

No truer statement has ever been made.

[@rmpullenii]

As a Camaro owner I do love the feeling i get while driving this car. I always feel as if I’m on the hunt. And I believe that has everything to do with the driving position you are in while in this car. Blind spots are “Bad” but the car is loud, it has an attitude, and it looks like it is stalking you whenever it behind someone. It is a menacing car that does what not many cars on the road today can do. And that is make driving fun. When I was a kid and got my license it was fun to drive. And this car has brought that back. Chevy I just have one question why are you killing this outstanding car? 😢😢😢

[@chriswarren8834]

I also own a Camaro, a 2017 SS, and I agree with everything you said.

[@lorian4366]

honestly I kept hearing about "blind spots" but after having purchased one I don't feel this is an issue at all. If anything it feels like I have better blind spot visibility than a typical sedan.

[@KantGitRyght]

​@@chriswarren8834Same here, manual '17 SS, fun , fun, fun every drive.

[@rmpullenii]

@lorian4366 I received my 2022 in May of this year I have had to adjust to the blind that is over my left rear shoulder. I am basically a 6ft tall individual so maybe it is my seating position 🤔 but I must stay aware of who is around me. Dispite that. This car is still awesome to drive. I will hang on to it for as long as my leg will keep pushing the clutch. I hope the same for you.😄

[@lorian4366]

@@rmpullenii I see I was mainly referring to the right rear blind spot. For my left I usually just have my window open and peek out if need to 😁. Thanks for the wishes and hope indeed you enjoy yours for as long as it drives.

[@TimeBucks]

Thanks for the review.

[@neelamopm]

2024 Mustang GT Performance vs Camaro SS 1LE // DRAG RACE and LAP TIMES IS VERY GOOD VIDEO

[@mkgamingmlbb6558]

Happy 😊

[@MuhammadAkaash-fu7gh]

👍

[@JOSHUAELISHA-cf1eq]

Performance vs Camaro that is good to hear

[@Muhammadkamran265]

Nice

[@Paul-tw3yi]

These guys are the GOATs of Car Review Videos.

[@BigInjun05]

Whoa whoa. That title is reserved for the holy trinity

[@itsben32]

Best on yt

[@kevmagill5163]

Ah...I see what you did there.

[@dmx0104]

and funny as hell 😂😂😂

[@Dp107.1]

Carwow is.

[@Goodthingz.]

I love how good James has gotten at sliding around! Love seeing this

[@JamesOKeefe-US]

The shot at 9:15 where Thomas rolls in sideways behind James just gives me chills each time. So frickin badass. Love you guys!!

[@nabroosi]

SAME HERE ! IT MADE ME SO HAPPY

[@AustinBurton1997]

I rewatched it 3 times ❤️

[@omdevs]

Yup!

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@AustinBurton1997i rewatched it 77 times.

[@Bastion71]

Yeah, that was a great scene. Nice transition. Well done, guys.

[@AnarchyFoxMusic]

Damn I really love watching James gather driving skill over the years, that drift in the camaro was choice

[@purwantiallan5089]

Camaro and Mustang have been nice choice for many.

[@drgonzo123]

I notice every episode he gets better and better. Love to see it.

[@CarStory]

Proud to own a 2022 Camaro SS 1LE. Look how close the SS 1LE track time was compared to the GT500 and ZL1. Really impressive.

[@DoWorkNP]

I'm more surprised it was faster track time than the gt500! Holy smokes

[@jameslopez5652]

​@@DoWorkNPThats due to the track mainly. Take them to lets say a real track like Laguna Seca or Road Atlanta where you get to stretch their legs properly and it will flip majorly. Im a car guy in general. Like any car really. Hell I can have fun in a base yaris lol. Daily atm is a bolt on 19' GT 401a, magneride, active exhaust, PP1, 6 speed. Only downside is no Tremac but I can drive the shit out of a manual so I'm okay lol.

[@chriskolaska897]

​@@jameslopez5652 well of course the times will flip on a track with bigger straight aways considering it's got almost 300hp more. That's where the ZL1 comes in which still puts up better lap time's with still less power.

[@layne4376]

@@jameslopez5652 The fact that a ZL1 will pace the GT500 on a longer track and cost the same as a Dark Horse Mustang is incredible. I had a previous generation GT with the PP2 and the MT82, which is such a crappy transmission - I longed for a Tremec.

[@luciusael]

"I don't want to whisper about the Camaro, I want to SHOUT!" Omg you're gonna make me cry man.

[@avarvar8102]

literally same. My favourite car since I was a boy.

[@antoniomesa1362]

9:13 that power slide transition with the mustang chasing.... BEAUTIFUL

[@4r391]

So, I bought a new 2024 Mustang GT premium in May, so I've had it for about a month now, and at first I was very very skeptical about the interior and the large screens. As a classic muscle car person, I'm ashamed to admit they are actually really nice. From a practical standard, they are super convenient and very easy to use when driving, especially with the manual transmission. The one thing I will still say is that there should be physical climate buttons. Overall the car is awesome, super happy with it.

[@andrewroff5387]

100% agree with you. Although I opted for the auto to compare the track performance with the manual my brother has.

[@ryantaylor3828]

lol I got my 24 GT in may as well mine isn’t a premium though it’s a base model but it’s an upgraded base model with the 301A package and active exhaust it has been a blast to drive honestly.

[@cski12894]

@@4r391 are there real stereo knobs? Like for volume? That's a must for me. With a stick I need to be able to quickly turn off the stereo during spirited driving so I can hear what the engine is doing. The new Mustang witb 480 hp and 420 lb-ft is short on torque but will catch the Camaro in a straight line; but not so much in the twisties. Plus I like the 200,000 mile lifespan of the LT1 with its simple 16 valve, single cam, pushrod V8. If you hsve a cherry picker and the right tools a Texas speed cam and headers can be added for substantial HP gains.

[@4r391]

​@cski12894 ​Yes, there is a physical button/ knob for the radio that does on/off and volume. There are also physical buttons on the stering wheel for next track ect. As for the Camaro and it's LS. To be honest I'm not sure it really matters anymore since the car is now dead, along with the Challenger. Generally I agree with you I prefer old school V8 single cam engines but CAFE is an unfortunate reality and the Ford modular V8s while more complex and yes more expensive, they are a lot more technologically advanced engines. Ford has a lot of areas to play with to squeeze out power amd performance. With the adaptive exhaust option, the HP is 486. 486hp/420fp is impressive from a naturally aspirated 5 liter engine. Once the engine is unlocked and tunable I have a feeling there are some good power gains coming. Also personally I think the Mustang is a much better looking car. 😏

[@cski12894]

@@4r391 I was sure that there were steering wheel controls, as I think all newish cars in thr USA do, but in busy city situations (at my age) I always reach for the real knob so I can hear the engine / stick shift engagement. Good luck with the GT. I like both cars but my fat ass was more comfortable in the Camaro. Lol.

[@M4Kendall]

I love how good James has gotten at sliding around! Love seeing the progression

[@alalal123421]

right! bros gotten great at driving

[@ThrottleHouse]

He’s all growed up.

[@Inawello]

​@@ThrottleHousegrown* not growed 😭

[@claytonjewett320]

​@@Inawellono no, they were making a funny.

[@Xaunoki]

@@Inawello all growned up

[@jaytop3012]

As an SS 1LE owner, this makes me happy... And sad that they are stopping production of it.

[@dnegel9546]

God forbid GM puts the LT2 in the camaro 😤🤦🏻‍♀️

[@thetruthhurtsisee]

@@dnegel9546 so true i would've traded in my ss 1le if they did.

[@dnegel9546]

@@thetruthhurtsisee whats it like driving one if those on a daily? Like do you feel you have to much car for day to day use? I ask cuz I’m thinking a SS would be to much car for me. So looking at a LT1 trim.

[@thetruthhurtsisee]

@@dnegel9546 its super easy to drive as my daily. my pervious daily was a wrx sti so when its rains in miami its nowhere near as confidence inspiring but in the dry its phenomenal and has more traction but it has traction control so that solves alot of problems in the rain. i immediately suggest the 1le or zl1 305 goodyear supercar3 tires and rims because the base ss and the lt1 tire size is way to small for the power. cool burnouts but horrible off the line traction. the ss and lt1 have the same motor and transmission but the lt1 has tiny brakes, basic suspension. you can save the money but please upgrade the brakes and tires as they're laughably tiny. i think for the first month i was like wow this is powerful now i drive it and im ehhhh i need more power. the car is super easy to drive with linear easy to control power. not a good car for a teenager but great for someone who has had fast sports in the past. i got a 1le which is basically a zl1 without the supercharger so everything on the car is overdeveloped for the minimal power it produces as its made for a 650 hp car and now making only 600 it still isn't up the limits of what the car can handle just be ok with smiles per gallon because the mpg is atrocious nut its a v8 so par for the course.

[@joetheunknown8413]

@@dnegel9546 Its like the perfect amount of power, especially on the highway when having to go around slow drivers in the left lane.

[@claudiucristian5632]

This video makes me happier for my decision to keep my supercharged 2017 50th Anniversary SS. It will age gracefully while being a track and straight road monster. 👏🏼

[@seacradev5400]

I'm a Ford man but completely agree with you, we have quickly reached the end of good muscle cars. No way will I enter the electric era. Are muscle cars are only going to appreciate since within 10 years they will no longer exist.

[@chriskolaska897]

​@@seacradev5400don't close the door on them just yet buddy cause all the car manufacturers are starting to fightback over this while all electric bullsht by 2035. So who knows we could still have muscle cars in 10 to 20 year's.

[@seacradev5400]

@@chriskolaska897 Man I hope, somebody needs to tell the EPA to back off but either way I'll still never get an EV and being a Ford man I'm glad to see Ford is already seeing the light and realizing EVs aren't the immediate future.

[@seacradev5400]

@@chriskolaska897 And one thing that these EV lovers just don't understand is yeah they can be quick but man they weigh too much they eat through tires like they're nothing and I don't care how many Tesla owners gloat about their car yet I've seen dozens of them. The paint jobs are terrible the body panels don't line up, service centers are non-existent so is customer service. I know, I have a brother-in-law that owns one and I got to sit there for an hour watching him on hold just trying to get brake pads for his beloved Tesla, yet Tesla owners on here claim they have zero issues and their cars are perfect where I rather find a freaking Yugo and drive that over an electric car any day.

[@montecarloss305]

Appreciate the inclusion of the Camaro at least one more time. Here's to hoping that GM has a surprise up their sleeve for us!

[@jamesmin2837]

Uh yeah. In form of a collector's edition. 100% an appearance package. RIP Camaro.

[@montecarloss305]

@jamesmin2837 well, I was hoping for a good kind of surprise, not that...

[@nigel_white]

The surprise is that they're ending production even earlier than they initially claimed. 🤬

[@_B0NES762]

Doubt it, I traded mine in for a c7, best decision ever

[@jamesmin2837]

@@montecarloss305 I am a 6th Gen Camaro owner. But sales wise, the car was am absolute disaster. GM did nothing to help it during the fresh with it's resign. Nor did it get any significant performance bump (like S550 Mustang), or tech. GM gave up on it a long time ago. I love the Camaro, many enthusiasts love the Camaro, but it was destined to be killed off. I'm actually surprised that it even lasted as long as it has.

[@happypavankumar123]

Can we just take a moment and acknowledge the power slide transition from camaro to mustang was insanely epic. Goosebumps

[@purwantiallan5089]

Well this always got me goosebump.

[@phongtran-mw9dm]

zzz

[@scarface9617]

that LT1 just looks amazing, the ‘24 GT was showing out with its Straight-line power!

[@goofy_xf6223]

Yep! All the 5.0 needed was 4 cams , 32 valves and now 2 throttle bodies to finally beat the Camaro 😂

[@scarface9617]

@@goofy_xf6223 yeah, the 10spd lt1 still feels a bit more torque & power to me.. but I really do like the newer 10spd GT tho.. I had a c7 and I think the 10spd Gt run lil better on top end.. got the c8 now!

[@goofy_xf6223]

@@scarface9617 the Camaro absolutely hauls ass! I get that there are faster cars but it’s definitely not slow! I want a c7 so bad. That’s my favorite Corvette despite the c6 being the most iconic. When I think Corvette I think of the c6 design. I love the c8s. They’re truly a work of art. I personally think Chevy is missing an opportunity to offer the c8 engines in a 7th Gen Corvette but as a front engine RWD vehicle with the 10spd Auto and a MANUAL. That’s people’s biggest gripe about the c8, no manual.

[@KiingPoop]

Jealous bitter much

[@shiftmotorsports9803]

I am fortunate enough to own a 21 SS 1LE 6M. I have owned a few iconic Japanese, German, and British sports cars over the years, but this is my first American sports car. I decided on it because of reviews and videos like this. I love the driving experience. It's got incredible grip and makes you want to push it all the time. Problem is the limits are so high that you're always way over the speed limit. 2 tickets in the first 4 months and had to go to court to fight to keep my license. It's like the "bad influence" friend that keeps getting you in trouble but is so much fun to be with. Thanks for the great videos! (and the recommendations....I think)

[@ssd9318]

Good cars are those which gets you in trouble 😊 not just get you to point A to B

[@Jmarzx]

Yeah having a muscle car or any sports car in general takes a lot of throttle discipline aye dont look at it in a negative way !! Its a blessing u have ur license still nd u gotta beautiful car also its a blessing u didnt crash it or anything!!

[@danielmembrillo6472]

You HAVE to take the 1LE to the track. It's a must. Had one for almost 3 years. It's such a capable car for the money.

[@shiftmotorsports9803]

​@danielmembrillo6472 That was the reason for getting it, but the tickets keep taking my track money! Edit: I did take it to the Tail of the dragon (Ticket #1)

[@sulimansyed2444]

Buy a radar detector for your car so you’ll know if a cop is near by.

[@Tain950]

I think that I’d prefer buying a used GT350R than jumping into a new Gen Mustang GT.

[@ZeerXX]

100%. Its still a way better car.

[@meanmugginj]

Man those are still pricey

[@sparkgrid]

It's out of the price range

[@IanMart]

Agreed. Dark horse are like 75k fully loaded

[@meanmugginj]

@IanMart man i aint driving around the track give me a premium gt with a procharger im good lol

[@matadorvids6912]

Every time I drive my 1LE, it puts a smile to my face even after a bad day 🙂

[@mikegiordanoplayspiano8609]

Me too. Love my 2019 1LE....and this video makes me love it more.

[@rodneynorwood4203]

I’d love to drive one but I do own a 2012 Camaro modified 3.6 that I’m impressed with and a 2021 mustang gt premium that ilike

[@hypblue1le]

Facts

[@kjk4795]

Camaro transmissions are terrible.

[@hypblue1le]

@@kjk4795 they're the best muscle/sports car transmissions. You must be smoking.

[@scottw2140]

Thank you guys for making some awesome Camaro SS1LE comparison content. First the Z Vs the 1LE and now the S650 GT. It a great benchmark in which to test track capabilities on these “new” platforms

[@mogulme6190]

The ss 1le is ridiculously underrated

[@frankie072]

​@mogulme6190 U got that right ,I only started looking into the 1LE's about a year ago and the more I researched them the more I had to have one,I actually ordered a 2023 2SS 1LE M6 that ended up not getting built,so I doubled down and ordered a 2024 2SS 1LE and my order was accepted sept 7 ,I cant wait till it comes home

[@VaunShiz]

Ya to bad it's so dang ugly though

[@justme307]

@@VaunShiz I'm with frankie0728...function over form.

[@jonathanbautista3138]

@@frankie072sold mine in 2022 the biggest regret I sold it to get a Ford raptor and I just miss my Camaro manual 1le, I hope in some years I get some money to get my baby back and keep my truck. Congratulations in your new 1le you’re going to love it.

[@larrysupersport]

Your track looks way cooler when the corn is high. A real "field of dreams" vibe.

[@jsackett42160]

I was thinking "Children of the Corn". Especially with Cowboy Carston and the "Kicking of the goats"!😂

[@InsaneTaco1715]

These guys are the the perfect balance between stupid and smart. They are smart enough that I trust what they are saying, but stupid enough to keep me entertained the entire time. By far the best car review channel!

[@Livlifetaistdeth]

"It's like getting out of a pickup and getting into a Porsche"... every Ford driver took that personally!

[@SR71life]

Lol

[@VermillionRacing]

I mean it’s true. Having had a 2013 mustang and a 2018 Camaro, it’s a drastically different feel inside the car. You feel higher up and have more room in the mustangs than In the Camaro, Which feel like you’re sitting on the ground

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

Lol that’s what you got out of it? The comparison was more for how it drives

[@akrs6398]

Nahh camaros look dated and ugly. The best year was 2018

[@SR71life]

@@ayushmalpeddi2793 Thsts exactly the point. The Camaro does all better.

[@mave2k]

We definitely need more Cowboy Carston.

[@HK00ful]

me too

[@upshifter5316]

Think he also had the most speaking lines of any vid so far too!

[@CalebHood-c1b]

9:13 that power slide transition with the mustang chasing.... BEAUTIFUL. Thanks for the review..

[@MrGamingCookie]

Never in my life have I clicked a video so fast!

[@AyoitsTayswrld]

Same 😂😂

[@JaysRandomnessChannel]

Doesn't really matter...it's not going anywhere.

[@jjukjkjiok7782]

same!

[@hugovallarta]

RIGHT!!?? 😂

[@cesarpdc]

Yeah sure bud, I bet those pornhub clicks are no comparison huh??!

[@mikkosantos7202]

Whoa, James putting down big power slides now? He looks much more confident with it now 🔥

[@purwantiallan5089]

He always does man.

[@mikkosantos7202]

@@purwantiallan5089 he does. But he's now holding bigger slides on this video.

[@parkerm64]

I’ve been a Mustang guy my whole life, but man these newer SS 1LE’s are great! They’re definitely on my list to own. Love the honest reviews!

[@eliaskhazal6303]

If that ss 1le was a manual it wouldve tied the gt both times, I was eating 10 spd camaros as a 6 spd manual

[@JohnDoe-xl1ig]

98-02 SS/WS6 6spd still best years imo

[@2024hekyeah]

That doesn't make sense the auto is faster

[@CoyoteFTW]

More like biased review how are you going to take a review of an ss 1le dedicated track focused variant of the ss versus base GT ? That’s like comparing the dark horse to the base Camaro SS … very stupid comparison these KZbin nerds aren’t as smart as you think they can’t even get the models right

[@pieswimmer1]

​@@CoyoteFTWbitter mustang fan. What a creep.

[@ryanb8466]

What you say about the mustang steering is 100% correct. I sold my 2021 5.0 GT for a 6.2 Camaro and I couldn't be happier with the upgrade. The steering and the way the Camaro attaches to your body is like the movie Avatar. And for my testing the best 0-60 I could ever muster with my mustang was 4.5 with my Camaro I ran a 4.3 1st try..

[@unfairsanic5089]

I mean stock for stock yes, but mustang have aftermarket suspension/wheels/ tuning if they tune its suspension it will keep up with the camaro on track times

[@blaqjac21]

@@unfairsanic5089 ok but put equal money into the camaro it still wont be even close .

[@sylvaind.6786]

4.3 with 455hp is a joke

[@The_Garnetts]

​@@sylvaind.6786455 horsepower is a joke itself lol. . How fast do you expect it to go 😂

[@unfairsanic5089]

@@blaqjac21depends on what money/suspension youre talking about because ive seen mustangs that are quicker around the track than a camaro with cheaper mods

[@austinhoff66]

You guys never fail to surprise me with your antics. Always so genuine and wholesome, keep it up guys!

[@Anonymous594]

Ok, so if I wanna “look and sound cool”, buy a Mustang. But if I wanna actually be cool and drive fast, buy a Camaro. Seems like a no-brainer to me.

[@tri3pleagent]

😂😂😂

[@hamdanali2036]

dangerously close to being not only my fav channel rn, but fav of all time

[@Laclanta]

Both are amazing but the 1LE is a bit different class

[@Funeillusion]

I love my 2SS. I've taken it to the track so I know what it can truly do. It's so much fun at fast speeds around corners. SUPER SMOOTH. Not to mention the ZL1 Wing I have on mine helps with that, but does affect your visibility when looking at your inside mirror. The front headlights just give off that Deathstare like it's ready to fight and that's before I put a front splitter on and canards. With those it's gonna look even more mean looking.

[@TShelb30]

The weathertech segment was wild 😂

[@Wulf573]

It went swimingly

[@DPCcars]

Watching Carston attempt to abscond with the goats was pure comedy gold, but James leveling up his drifting skills is the real MVP moment here! 💪🔥 I can't decide what's more impressive, the progression of driving finesse over the years or the unadulterated humor that seeps through every video.

[@pacha2516]

I’m sad to see the Camaro go, but good news is that there always gonna be available. Just cause there won’t be anything new doesn’t mean you can pick one up! Go Chevy

[@swayls351]

Yo the scene when James was talking about the end of the camaro and drifted around the corner and then Thomas broke into the frame drifting behind him in the mustang was absolutely peak automotive content and I ran it back 3 times 🔥🔥🔥

[@GODEYE270115]

The camaro has aged gracefully. Mogging the Nissan Z and MKV Supra in the straights and corners. Definitely ahead of its time

[@_Quattr09]

The Camaro will forever be a white trash Ferrari, most at home in a trailer park or barracks. It’s not mogging anything lmao.

[@porkchopexpress6969]

@@_Quattr09take it easy buddy. Peeps from all races, sex, and religion drive camaros.

[@tmacsauce]

@@_Quattr09camaro is the better Ferrari. You don’t need millions to buy a big engine with plastic around it. Ontop of that, the parts and maintence doesn’t cost an arm and a leg and will drive just as fast around a track. And you’re not signing your life away to Ferrari

[@davothegreat9990]

Supra is quicker though

[@chabweezy9905]

@@_Quattr09 thats technically what the corvette is and they perform better than rraris nowadays

[@michaeldodd9302]

“Getting out of that and into this, was like getting out of a pickup truck and into a Porsche. “. Damn… That’s just brutal. OUCH! Poor Mustang. 😢😢😢

[@smackledorfmcsween]

Calm down. That's just the GT as in Grand Touring. It didn't have performance tires or magnetic shocks. This is the model meant for street racing. ALSO IT'S NOT DEAD! GO DIG YOUR CAMARO UP! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 JKJK.

[@MrLuvtheUSA]

Yeah I thought he was too harsh 😅. And I’m not knocking the camero. The 1LE is an outstanding track car. But that mustang should be a little quicker than he was with it. I mean, he spent 2 minutes bitching about the steering feel and under steer. I have an older mustang and I think the steering is great; and I’ve never thought it had too much under steer either. Hopefully the new ones aren’t really that bad?😬

[@TheCaffeinatedDrive]

@@smackledorfmcsweenTypical mustang fanboy coping

[@J707xyz]

Incredibly sad that they decided to kill off the Camaro. GM really did slap their fans with that announcement.

[@camonly849]

There's no way that will be the end....I would imagine they will bring It or some other car back in the distant future. It will take time after they figure out electric isn't the end all be all.

[@BigTwigs1981]

my money is on them bringing it back as an electric crossover to compete with the mustang mach-e

[@jmmch3358]

​@BigTwigs1981 but it would never be a Camaro, neither the Mach-E is a jusMustang, t electrical SUVs

[@jmmch3358]

​@BigTwigs1981 but it would never be a Camaro, neither the Mach-E is a Mustang, just electrical SUVs

[@uraniumcranium2613]

good riddance chev junk

[@michaelrainerii3547]

That mustang is a beast! This definitely reminds me of old top gear episodes. Loving it

[@donaldkinder6716]

Lol such a beast with 31hp more and the Camaro SS smoke's it on the RACE TRACK

[@michaelrainerii3547]

@donaldkinder6716 Who won this race is all that matters. Accept it lol. For the price of the mustang, it's a good buy. Both are bang for the buck if you want an affordable fun car. Honestly I like both for the price, but I'm to old for these types of cars now. I've had several in my years. Much faster cars, so technically neither of these are just monsters but for the price point they're awesome. They can't handle a Ferrari 296, McLaren 765lt or Porsche 911 turbo but good cars for the price.

[@GTOGregory]

Yeah, they should have put the Corvette's LT-2 engine in the Camaro for it's send-off year. The 495HP might make a difference especially considering they increased the price.

[@keylago220]

I could never understand why gm does'nt revamp their v-8 with dohc technology.they can squeeze so much more hp and higher revving engines.

[@goofy_xf6223]

Dodge would’ve done that. Dodge also would’ve supercharged it and put it in a Camaro. And they would’ve put a supercharged LT2 in the Silverado ZR2. Unfortunately GM is succumbing to wokeness and abandoning what’s made them who they are. Makes 0 sense

[@iEternal_Frost]

​@@keylago220because the dohc v8s are for their new Corvette lineup, if they sold their premium dohc in a Camaro no one would buy the Corvette especially if the Camaro still offered 6 speed manual

[@keylago220]

Good.point.

[@justinbeamon6624]

Great review as always. I think this really goes to show the chassis of the Camaro is beyond world class. The engineers outdid themselves. I'm sure the Dark Horse will be great but the 1LE is the one I would take home if I had an extra 60k. I'd do the manual, big cam, tune and exhaust. That's the dream.

[@Kev27RS]

Both cars are ugly though… The previous gens looked so much better!

[@leonvoltaire]

@@Kev27RS 67-68 Firebird wins for looks.

[@camonly849]

100% I would also take the camaro....heads, cam, intake would be amazing on it. The camaro I bet still runs within a second or so of the dark horse. Mark my words! I bet the dark horse is about a second quicker than the ssle, and for half the price. Why wouldn't you get a camaro?? If I'm spending 70-80k. I'm getting an actual fast car, a c7 z06 or c6 zr1, not a glorified mustang gt.

[@camonly849]

The new mustangs are hideous. Except the dark horse doesn't look as bad. I didn't like the grill on this camaro as much. I like the 2018 grill better. I think the camaro looks better overall.

[@Kev27RS]

@@leonvoltaire I was talking about the Mustangs and Camaros from the last 10 years. Not the classics.

[@MahmoudElgassier]

I'm just gonna throw this out there: we need Carston to chime in with his inputs on these races.

[@JKyRei]

Thomas Holland > Tom Holland

[@domenicpolsoni8370]

"A track whose surface is inspired by the back of a stegosaurus." 😂

[@EwalkGT]

Can’t tell you how much I appreciate you guys and the quality content you continue to make. Keep it up guys!

[@ziggy___moon]

"our track, whose surface was inspired by the back of a stegosaurus..." that is an epic quote

[@lordcorgi6481]

Got to get the Dark Horse with that 6 speed Tremec 🔥 This demonstrates the problem with the Camaro and why it's outsold by the Mustang every year. The Camaro is the better track car. The Mustang is the better street car.

[@samschroeder8019]

Have loved watching this channel grow to unreal proportions over the years. Great job fellas

[@faridalghali5246]

Thanks guys, I thoroughly enjoyed that! Great video as always; witty, entertaining, informative, FUN!!

[@fulcrumsee5968]

The fact that the truck can keep up is pretty impressive

[@FL50ssp]

With ~700HP I'd hope so but looking at it another way it is a frod.

[@raionshishi8290]

@@FL50ssp Ford has the fastest truck on the market, so I don't see why saying "it is a Ford" means anything.

[@MrFordguy73]

If it was 4x4 it'd launch way harder.

[@headhunter531]

"Our track, who's surface is inspired by the back of a stegosaurus" Ah, james has such a way with words.

[@Devin.Kurant]

It's been fun watching the Mustang/Camaro lineage evolve over the past 25 years. The only thing that's baffling is paying 20-45% premium every model year refresh for a laughable 10% performance increase.

[@Gymbroe00]

Love Camaro and Mustang both💙

[@Kev27RS]

Both look ugly now! Camaros and Mustangs looked so much better a few years ago.

[@andras.89]

For me, the previous gen Mustang Bullitt edition is the peak, both exterior and interior wise. Perfection.

[@SoFarFromCrust]

It definitely is. The Mach 1 wasn't much of an improvement for the price, and the current gt makes the same as the bullit did, but with an extra throttle body. I personally felt like the Bullit handled like ut was on rails

[@mikehughes8023]

GT350 ftw!😎

[@jljr1998]

I Love my 22 2ss 1le. if anything were to happen to mine I would hands down get another! both the mustang pp2 and the supra were on my list as the 2ss 1le's are quite hard to come by unfortunately plus the price increase and market adjustments im so glad I got mine when I did. great honest review as always

[@dkushnir]

I ordered mine so I was able to get it at MSRP. Had to wait 5 months , but it was so worth it. Such a great car!

[@playboy51904]

I enjoy driving my 2022 SS 1le I just added the lt2 and ported throttle body

[@bruceleejr7631]

If you add anything to a 60000 plus vehicle then you're still not satisfied with your purchase

[@playboy51904]

@bruceleejr7631 yeah tell that to any car guy and they will say bs because we enjoy upgrading whatever we can especially when it comes to our cars

[@bruceleejr7631]

@@playboy51904 And then WHAT...down the same rabbit hole, It's your $$'s

[@MikeHowl]

To think I was going to enjoy the beginning sketch for my lunch break…

[@Wulf573]

If only you knew

[@superss9563]

Im on my 3rd camaro going from a 13" 2SS, 16" 2SS, and now the 21" 1SS 1LE and my god... my family was fotunate enough to own a C8 and a "21 vantage, and I have to say that the 1LE is definitely the best car in the corner and gives you so much confidence in driving! Would recommend to anyone considering to get it.

[@GODEYE270115]

Would you say it out handled the C8? I had a 17’ 2SS last year and for as heavy as it was. The amount of confidence it had on the turns was absurd

[@evanescent0311]

I had a ‘16 SS then 17 and 19 SS 1LE. Moved on to 2022 GT4 but never quite had the fun I had in the SS1LE. Even with money aside. I’ll get one again.

[@superss9563]

I wouldn't say it was better than the C8 but was damn close to it but the 16 2SS I had was definitely not as sharp around the corner. The sound is definitely better than the C8 thought surprisingly 😂

[@1LE_LUISS]

Just bought a 23’ SS 1LE sharkskin metallic & guys I can not say how happy I am with it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it was going 15 vette but I’m glad I picked this!

[@MCGodzilla94]

The Camaro is leaving the game out on top

[@BrandonGoodwin-qz2kh]

Not in sales. The mustang killed off the Camaro again.

[@jonathanflask2475]

@@BrandonGoodwin-qz2khmake less cars = make less sales🤯

[@MCGodzilla94]

@@BrandonGoodwin-qz2kh Sales don't matter on the track.

[@TehNiCoLaS]

@@BrandonGoodwin-qz2khmustangs suck get over it

[@ClutchKillers]

@@BrandonGoodwin-qz2kh And a bugatti sells less than a lamborghini does that make it an inferior car? Keep coping.

[@junitoss83]

The Camaro for having an LT1 that hasn’t been touched since the year it came out in 2014 is still incredible. You can’t beat that car around a track unless you have something much more expensive. Great car.

[@bird-man4022]

@junitoss83, Well said. That’s 100% facts! I’m still amazed at how well it drives. There’s magic in that suspension..👍

[@shaneknight13]

What a joke. Putting the 1LE against a regular GT and complaining about how dull the GT is around the track. Test should have been against the SS only. Apples and oranges guys. Purpose built track car vs regular car.

[@slammedcm8]

​@shaneknight13 that's the premium gt, the black wing is like z28 level

[@bananaoligarchy8754]

@shaneknight13 Price is comparable. The Dark Horse is way more expensive. The 1LE directly competes with the Performance Pack GT

[@evanescent0311]

This is why I’ve never had a Mustang .. to get the same track performance as SS1LE I would’ve had to go to a GT350. Great car but performance/dollar never made sense. Bespoke motor or not, performance capabilities matter for a track car. Mustang interiors also always looked like 10 years in the past

[@samnews76]

I have been wanting to see a drag race between the Mustang and the Camaro since they first came on the scene. The cowboy kicking the goats at the end of the first race was hilarious. Thank you.

[@BelloAbdullahi-el5nx]

Nice and awesome

[@czajan101]

0:07 i likehow you got in and already had seatbelt on. Lightning fast moves :D

[@sparkgrid]

This feels like a personal attack on thestraightpipes 😂

[@onewatchjustisntenough]

Can we just take a moment and please appreciate how absolutely hysterical these guys are. I mean for Christ's sakes they were out there filming goats taking a shit and taking a piss for an add. I mean who does this? But it is absolutely brilliant and hysterical. I absolutely love throttle house. You guys are awesome

[@purwantiallan5089]

This car looks cool to ride.

[@dirtylittledoe]

Taking the lords name in vain is commandment number one.

[@jasondilissio3916]

Best ever integration of sponsor into content with the Weathertech bedliners. Completely funny and woven seamlessly into the storyline so it didn’t feel like a commercial break. A+.

[@kenm724]

Costs are outrageous. The 1LE package on my 2015 Camaro SS was only $3,500! It’s also a 2SS with every option but Recaro seats. It was still only $45k! Don’t even get me started on my King Ranch F-150 and how much they’ve gone up since 2015…

[@7000U9ZHIFT]

Yessir... few more updated mods to your 2015 you keep up with 6th gens in the corners

[@blaqjac21]

well in honesty back in 2017-2021 ish the 1LE 1ss was only about 44K with recaros which it absolutely needs

[@kenm724]

@@7000U9ZHIFT truthfully, given that this car will consistently pull 1.1-1.2 G on back roads without breaking a sweat, power was more of a concern. Cam and headers and it made an extra 80 WHP. The only thing I did for handling was add the Z/28 spoiler with duckbill. I also run PS4S tires, which are definitely better than the factory Goodyears.

[@al151]

The thing is though, if you try to add everything on the 1le package to an ss, the cost comes out around 13-14 grand without installation fees

[@kenm724]

@@blaqjac21 I didn’t want the Recaro seats in my car bc I’m a wide dude and I do a lot of cruising and road trips. My brother’s 6G has Recaro seats and they’re a bit tight for me. And yeah, you’re right, bc I was considering a 1LE in 2018/2019 before prices jumped from covid BS.

[@FOWBOWZ]

Best throttle house in a little while. I've been laughing at every point. Love this channel omg

[@silverious1le299]

It’s such a shame that Camaro is going away. I wish more people knew exactly how fantastic the SS/1LE really is. Sure there are faster cars, but it is the absolute most bang for your buck currently available across the entire world. It is an incredibly capable track car out of the box. And no, we’re not talking about drag racing for those confused. We’re talking about road course lapping. Anyone can drive in a straight line. This thing out laps just about everything aside from supercars. This includes many Porches, Jaguars, Most Corvettes, and everything GT 350 and lower from Ford. The list goes on, and it’s at the very least $20k cheaper than the cheapest of them all. None of these stand a chance against an SS/1LE. It’s the best common man’s Camaro ever built! Truly an anomaly!

[@Nick-Lipples]

So happy to see this is #14 on trending you guys deserve all of it❤

[@McCoyB2017]

I love my 2SS. It's a shame the stigma of poor visibility seemed to really effect its sales because it is fantastic and visibility isn't an issue. I wonder how the much lighter lt1 or 1SS would compare on a drag race with the new GT

[@RobQuincysFather2012]

visibility is 100% an issue with camaros and the trunk is tiny

[@McCoyB2017]

@@RobQuincysFather2012 trunk is very small. Especially compared to when I had a challenger. I daily my Camaro and I promise you it isn't nearly as big of an issue as you think. The 2SS makes it even better with the camera rear mirror and blind spot momitors

[@TheCaffeinatedDrive]

@@RobQuincysFather2012A typical mustang owner coping

[@Steve-yr5vi]

I don't think poor visibility was the main issue; the main issue is the interior is cramped. I went to check one out in 2016 after it won the COTY awards. The sales people were cussing them; funny how a car can win COTY and actual buyers turn away. In contrast the S550 Mustangs got oh-hum to bad reviews and it's been a run away best seller.

[@McCoyB2017]

@@Steve-yr5vi I loved the roomy feel of my challenger. But I also love the fighter pilot feel of the Camaro. To each their own I suppose

[@JasonDerryberry]

Did anybody else notice the meteor or UFO at the 7:57-7:58 mark streaking across the sky !?! Great video as always, keep up the good work fellas.

[@krishanpatel3360]

those shots at BMW killed me !!!!!! A always S tier content!!!!

[@seanfuller9770]

That's the truck that should have been the new Lightning.

[@clubbizarre]

the coolest and funniest sponsorship presentation ever !!! nailed it - you guys are the GOATS

[@skankhunt420]

BEST INTROS ON WHOLE FRIGGIN KZbin!!! 🔥❤ Love you guys!!

[@brooklynbandit6788]

The race that I've been wanting to see for years!

[@cgmehta8264]

I don't think I've EVER heard carlston say anything in any video. Till he said "DAMMIT" 😂

[@cartilagehead]

I know that modifying/modified cars isn’t really your wheelhouse, but it would be really interesting to see a sort of comparison between the new Mustangs and the previous-generation model with, like, a good suspension upgrade/etc. Given how much Ford kept from the old car it would seem like a buyer could get a tremendous amount of value today by buying something used and making some smart purchases in the Mustang’s enormous aftermarket.

[@FL50ssp]

Question... did you ever ask yourself why the mustnag aftermarket is so large? This is from a former mustnag owner that in the past has dumped thousands and thousands of dollars into mustnags. I know the answer to the question above and wonder if you and your peers know.

[@cartilagehead]

@@FL50ssp I own a Fiesta ST, so I'm assuming it's because they're Built Ford Rough, to quote James?

[@VagrantZero84]

@@cartilagehead Alternatively, it's because the focus on the Mustangs isn't really racing performance so you goto the aftermarket to plug that hole. I say that as a S550 Mach 1 owner. I wouldn't be against letting TH track my car, I'm probably 300 miles from them so it's a doable drive. But my car is the auto without the HP.

[@cartilagehead]

@@VagrantZero84 I think a lot of the focus on tracking cars is really misplaced, unless you happen to have $10-20k to burn on top of whatever mods/upgrades and the actual time to do it regularly. I want the best on-road dynamics and enjoyment, maybe with a semi-annual trip to the track, and for me that means trying to find the best balance between handling and comfort. People just seem to really hate on the recent Mustangs all of the time "oh it's mostly great, but the suspension is really floppy compared to the Camaro" "oh it's mostly great but the manual on the GT isn't as strong or as nice as you can get in the pricier 'track focused' models" "oh it's mostly great but they made the gearing ratio all wrong" etc.

[@Nah5534]

​@cartilagehead6326 Stock they sucks it took a full revamp of my suspension on mine to make it feel good. Sadly there was no fix for the lack of steering feel so I sold it.

[@hugovallarta]

How can you boys get better with every video!!!???

[@JTrimble80]

This was such a great review, but for the money of the Dark Horse I’m definitely buying a Camaro ZL1.

[@Six3SixTay]

Carston kicking the goat has me in LITERAL TEARS!!😂🤣😭 Ahhh..I f*ucking love this channel man.

[@jamespeterson101]

I was shocked to hear that people think the Mustang looks bad. Seeing it in the evening sun and speeding around the track I thought it was the best looking generation of mustang (Arguable though because I really like the 2005-ish era).

[@franciscodanconia4324]

It’s not bad looking but I had a chance to look at the S650 and S550 sitting next to each other at an auto show and the S650 looks bulkier, bigger, and has lost a lot of sleekness. And that rear quarter screams Camaro.

[@ohboy2592]

We just bought a ‘24 gt. Test drove the ss and it is small, cramped and outdated. It’s not even in the same ballpark. As the ‘24. Our son convinced her to try the gt as she was hell bent on the Camaro.

[@avocado9763]

James thank you for your brutal honesty. The new dark horse is a fat pathetic finish for this icon. I'm a mustang man but the last few years is a testimony to ford parking its customers. Thanks again. Carson was on the money. Instead of going out like Camaro and Dodge with big horse power.

[@rzrz-f1d]

i had a mustang gt and a challenger scat pack. i was very surprised how good the new camaro ss drives. i still like my challenger the most but to be honest, the new camaro ss drives amazing 🎉

[@NXT_LVL]

FP700: when Ford realizes it's Lightning image was ruined so they made a "Lightning" package thats not a Lightning, but is.

[@benreifhardt4471]

Someone needs to smack the designer who decided that giant screen in the mustang looks good.

[@Parker565]

I’d love to have these guys use my 18 1LE with a naturally aspirated 416 stroker motor making 600whp with some fresh cup 2 tires, Dot5 brake fluid, and a track alignment go up against a Dark horse. In a way it was my shot at making the 6th gen Z28 that never came to fruition. Throttle house hit me up!

[@bk138gt6]

S550 owner here, I think the S650 looks good, but I'm glad I have my 19 PP1 with the analog dash

[@unfairsanic5089]

They should tune the previous gen mustang with aftermarrket suspension/pp2 tyres/+hp and i bet it will keep up with the camaro on track

[@MikeShero]

i'll still choose my 1LE over the mustang any day!

[@sirTytylor]

These guys made the paid ad an interesting segment! ...We really are witnessing greatness in real time.

[@BodyGoalsAsap]

I love the FP700 esp. that it's a single cab

[@jcajigas88]

I’ve seen several videos now where the Camaro was the quicker car. This the is the first video I’ve seen the Mustang be faster

[@jeffbeca1]

The outgoing Mach1 with handling package is great on the track! I’ll just keep my 22 Mach1

[@fdangleshadang-a-lang7149]

I almost got one but I ended up not being able to sell one of my other cars in time, and someone else bought the Mach 1 I was looking at. Biggest regret in life besides a previous failed relationship

[@UnitedNaishuns]

Mach 1 on those cup 2s is very impressive. I was ripping up GT4s in my last session in one, bone stock except X-pipe. Some lowering springs, sway bars, more aggressive camber should really make it a missile.