2023 Honda Civic Type R Review // Return Of The King

[@reuterindustries8240]

Sergio is so cool under pressure. He didn’t even seem to be bothered to be seated next to KZbin legend Thomas

[@amadeiusc657]

Did a good job hiding his full on chub.

[@blakehenderson8828]

@@amadeiusc657 the hero we deserve

[@Ficon]

Did he slam other journalist cars into the wall?

[@jaioncebollero1168]

Because he’s not a weirdo fanboy? Thomas is a regular dude why would anyone not be able to act normal around him or any other “celebrity” very odd comment

[@SejoManPro]

No pressure environment when both Sergio "Checo" Perez and Thomas Holland are equally respectful legends! Great Video! Love this performance machine, but already hate the future and excessive markups!

[@jacobrev6567]

I did not expect it Thomas meet Sergio in the new Honda Civic type r

[@toyotagaz]

anything is possible

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@toyotagaz yep. Ayumu Uehara also met Thomas in this episode.

[@danielwebster1197]

The way they captured the heel toe downshift at the 3:52 mark was awesome. It's truly amazing the amount of detail in the making of these videos. Throttle House is the best car review channel on KZbin.

[@CatchMeNever]

That’s just good editing. That’s not the same downshift and they just put it in later.

[@mrflippant]

That's all Carston for the win, getting the perfect cut shots like a pro!

[@marceloherrera4244]

You beat me to it. I was gonna comment the exact same thing. Amazing attention to detail

[@wynn324]

they literally filmed that while the car was parked, so fucking corny

[@cnguyen32]

@@CatchMeNever Yep. Camera was set there to record the entire drive. Its not like someone hit record at that exact moment lol

[@jahahua]

I do like how more simple it is, it's like the older type R or even like an 86 where it's a blank canvas to make it into whatever way you want it to be

[@kingofthenerds7925]

Yeah I think the Championship White color emulates that beautifully

[@bikemike1118]

It’s actually the same car as its predecessor apart from a less wild looking body with more rear seat space… and an 80% price increase!

[@jahahua]

@@bikemike1118 the chassis?

[@bikemike1118]

@@jahahua the chassis is longer which leads to the overly longish look of the car. More like a limousine than a hot hatch…

[@justace123]

As a huge F1 fan, seeing Thomas with Sergio on the hot lap had me grinning so much. Love that.

[@shadowkillz9606]

@PAUL DON Poor

[@The.Fake.Adam.Lulich]

I can understand why Doug DeMuro hates press tours. Hot laps with Perez, Ping pong with Tsunoda, Tickets to a Grand Prix. Sounds like hell.

[@Liam-vh8bz]

@@The.Fake.Adam.Lulich DeMuro would want to give an F1 car a Doug score🙄

[@Carlife0830]

Ikr, I was soo surprised to see Checo with Thomas

[@Tryptamine999]

Need the full length video of Checo doing hot laps with Thomas

[@JPals-gt4mp]

This

[@xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Who is Checo?

[@andrewrobertson5508]

@@xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sergio Perez, he drives for the RedBull F1 team lol

[@Tryptamine999]

@@xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sergio Perez (The F1 driver at the start of the video Incase you don’t follow F1) It’s just a nickname for Sergio not sure where it came from though. It’s more just like a second name than a nickname at this point though it’s used for him so often

[@ritwizrai8550]

@@xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx You don't know. Checo is a F1 driver who beat Lewis Hamilton (7x World Champion) in the 2022 WDC.

[@Booseman51]

Was not expecting to see Checo in this. Also he is so focused he almost missed his cue during the intro. Loved it 😂

[@speedracer2please]

I think he's in most of the coverage from this event, I saw him in the Straight Pipes one too!

[@MikeLego89]

Who wants a type r coupe?

[@gman9mm1]

I’ve always wondered if it was possible to put a Type R engine in a 10th gen coupe… I’m surprised no one’s tried! I feel like the performance numbers on a coupe would be better than a hatch… maybe I haven’t watched enough TH though. 😂

[@chrisvigo4880]

I definitely thought the 10th gen coupe was gonna be a type r

[@danielb1674]

Bro it’s a Honda civic

[@eyeguardcrazy4815]

Yessss

[@classicdufferin8739]

Honda civic but can reach 275kph while some proper sports car cant even reach 260kph 😅😅😅😅​@@danielb1674

[@joshbasarab6869]

Maybe I'm partial because it's mine, but I love the off the wall over engineered look of my 2020. I do also have a 18 accord and man, he's right, it's close to an accord type R.

[@wbhandy]

The championship white and red interior just does it for me. I spent a lot of time drooling over white integra type R’s with red interiors when I was a kid, and Honda has successfully tapped into that memory.

[@TopHeavyVideo]

@Cary Hernandez hey dip head, overseas it was called a honda integra. He knows that.

[@jamesjames]

@Cary Hernandez in japan its the honda integra

[@jj481012]

That red paint and grey wheel combo at the end looks gorgeous.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Yep. As gorgeous as the car itself.

[@DEVILTAZ35]

The wheels look good but nothing else does lol

[@wr8thbeatz322]

@@DEVILTAZ35 the paint looks good

[@hrvojegrgic5111]

Red is the perfect colour for this car.

[@ulysses4989]

@@hrvojegrgic5111 Grey*

[@aksahdev01]

The journey these 2 have went on is actually insane, from nothing to meeting Checo 🤩

[@WilliamCWayne]

Yeah, they've really hit the big time now, and completely deservedly

[@jorgevillacis8127]

CHECOOOOOOOOOO

[@SilverScarletSpider]

i still remember watching thomas working on his old bmw 3 series in his garage whilst reviewing other people’s Kia Forte’s

[@X_HYEM_0UT]

I like how they showed when Thomas hit that clutch great attention to detail ‼️‼️

[@BOOSTEDDUDE]

Very cool. My first new Civic Type R review I've seen. Much cleaner looking than the old version and just as or more capable? I'm not sure how I feel about the overall looks yet. I would hope the 7K over the previous versions is worth it!

[@wendystacos7447]

I genuinely mean it when I say this is my favorite channel right now. The skit at the end solidified it. The humor is always right on point and the cars… love the cars man. Love you guys. Best days are throttle house days

[@WAYTOOCOMPLICATED]

Sergio using 2% of his driving abilities while Thomas uses 100% concentration not to throw up 😂

[@rhodepersley]

Thomas and James do make a dynamic fun duo😎😎 🔥

[@JS-hw8ve]

It's great, but as much as I normally prefer understated, or subtlety, I loved the fact that the older Civic Type R models looked like Angry Little Spaceships. It gave them character, made them unique, and different from every other car on the road. I do love this (piped in sound not withstanding) but I do kinda miss it being a car that might show up as reinforcements when the Enterprise is being attacked by Klingons. Lol.

[@robervin9107]

0:43 his dancing was my favorite part go Thomas. You sing and dance.

[@StaufferGarage]

Been waiting to see what people really think of the new Type R! Still gotta say I would be prefer an EK9... Call me old fashion lol

[@petkokrushev3840]

Me 2 man, me 2. Overall it's a nice car, but there is something "blob fishy" about it

[@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου]

EF and EK are the best looking civics.

[@Amerikanskis]

Seems they will never catch that soul again

[@kennethporter992]

That was the high water mark. We didn't know it at the time. Glad that they're still making good stuff though

[@J0J0Zx]

I personally really love the 10th gen type r just such and aggressive looking car

[@MatthewGaither]

I like it a lot better in red with those optional wheels but overall the styling shouldn't offend anyone unlike the last generation. Looking forward to the full review on TH's home territory!

[@steve8032]

That red was sexy

[@overlordtype25]

What nerd would get offended over styling?

[@flacjacket]

@@overlordtype25 offended in this context doesn't mean pearl clutching, it just means put off. I was in this sense offended by the last gen Type Rs styling. I went from a 9th gen civic SI which I loved to a Mk7 Golf R without even considering a Type R purely because of it's immature overwrought styling. The last Type R was not something I could show up in for a business meeting or, God forbid, a funeral which is something a daily driver (which a Type R civic is meant to be) has to be able to do. It's styling was just too vulgar.

[@BigDonkMongo]

@@flacjacket while your opinion is definitely an opinion, it is wrong. last gen's styling was something that made it stand out, and this car looks like a vw. Please stay with your German cars, if Honda made something styled like the last gen with the new gen's interior I'd make the poor financial decision of buying one in a heartbeat

[@Craycrayallday]

@@BigDonkMongo I agree, I’ve never liked the new civic, looks more like an accord, the styling definitely stood out on the last and this just makes it blend in.

[@tyler9703]

It definitely seems promising. Like Thomas said, more testing is definitely necessary but I'm glad it carries the same sense of lairy playfulness that the old car has. One concern I have is the suspension: it looked really, really stiff on track, to the point where you guys were getting thrown around so much I'd like to know if it hindered your ability to drive the car like in the FK8 Type R LE.

[@gabecarreon7671]

@PAUL DON and that's a bad thing? I don't think Honda is worried about not selling these. Never thought we'd see the day that people are complaining they didn't come in auto, LMAO. Besides, the Type R has never released with an automatic trans in my knowledge, and year after year, it's still here.

[@immortalsennin605]

@PAUL DON One of the reasons people buy the Type R is because it's manual. There are plenty of other options out there for people that want that experience. Not so much these days for the manual. For that reason alone you'll see every Type R sell.

[@Tunnelsnakes]

It’s in +R mode, which most likely gives it the stiffest suspension setting.

[@GaryV209]

@PAUL DON 😂😂😂 lost your when your said auto

[@ricecreamzz2861]

@@gabecarreon7671 even the Si doesnt come in auto.... this guy doesnt know the reliablity in the manuals i guess

[@blabl590]

Gaymes, you never cease to amaze me with the depth of your jag baggery. Thanks Thomas.

[@grriceman782]

Brilliant review!! Thank you Honda for continuing to keep updating the Type R

[@CT37BN]

Good Luck to Sergio for the Mexican GP. Best looking Type-R series since the spider eyes Integra Type-R of the mid 90's.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

Max P1 Checo P2 Lec P3

[@ryangromoll9329]

I just watched the Gorolla GR vs. Golf R video like 5 minutes ago not knowing this was going to come out… what perfect timing!

[@wileecoyote5749]

The re release of the Datsun 510 is being released early next year. 650 HP to the wheels. 2000lb car.

[@blackhammer5189]

Yeah, manual for more fun. Like it. Thomas' happiness is priceless.

[@VictorDeveze]

Everyone wants a manual, I want a sequential, now that would be fun

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@VictorDeveze yep. So did Max Verstappen.

[@MultiplexityGaming]

damn. 2.28 mil subs. you guys really blew up. congrats on your success as one of the top car channels .

[@MMOchAForPrez]

Honda did a great thing having F1 drivers take different content creators around the track. We were glad to have you guys in my home town! I hope we didn't let you down! 😂 And Harris Hill is very bumpy. Hopefully that didn't color your review too much

[@anthonyferretti28]

Checo and Throttle House! Two of my favorite automotive things! Great Job guys! Checo is the man and so are you two. Keep up the great content.

[@MKBinDC]

OMG! You got to hang out with Checo and the Alpha Tauri guys! What a great life you've built for yourself. Congratulations on all your well-deserved success.

[@alex.antolini]

What a great combination this is, TH + F1 stuff. I could barely believe it when I saw Checo "The Street Circuit Demon" Peres sitting besides Thomas. This video made me happy. Oh, and the Type-R looks amazing. Honda for life.

[@meCmoni]

Thanks for the objective review! Too many reviews just talk about pros and no cons.

[@will8349]

The red type r at the end looks sick!!

[@makatron]

I can already see stealerships dropping a 10 or 15k markup on top of the already high MSRP. Hot laps with Sergio gotta be its own video.

[@cloudyview]

It's kinda cute that you think it will only be 10-15k 🤣😕

[@makatron]

@@cloudyview I was laughing as I was typing it too 😂

[@jankisty9704]

In EU unofficial price is hitting 54 999€

[@makatron]

@@jankisty9704 EU got more controls over scalpers though

[@kc510]

Damn shame.

[@bottlely]

"And I'm Sergio" And I hadn't expected that Edit: 1:47 - "for that price, it had better drive... to survive" I didn't know that And I'm James is an Acceleracers fan /j

[@_.crzzyy._]

What a legendary video. Checo+Throttle House, amazing

[@cristiancristi9384]

same superb performance, with ( now) elegant "shooting-brake" style that looks gorgeous.... And real practical and usable physical buttons on the dashboard instead of an all-screen-style for which you would otherwise have to look away from the road to change whatever.... They took all the best features from the previous generation and made a car that looks much better too... that is what I call the recipe of success

[@HiraethOblivion]

You guys have gone far! I've been following you guys for years! Now, you had Sergio Perez, a Formula One driver in your reviews! CRAZY STUFF!!

[@purwantiallan5089]

This 2023 Civic got S grade.

[@jrzez]

$43k? Woof... prices are in fact, out of control. Looks much better though.

[@ryanb8736]

I’d give 45 for one. Dealers are already talking 65k markup.

[@Whispergryn]

@@ryanb8736 You're the reason they're marking them up so high tho man. Why you gotta add to the problem?

[@ryanb8736]

@@Whispergryn I have friends offering dealers 65k, just so they can resell them. Welcome to the world of entrepreneurs. This is what happens when you can’t make money in real estate and stocks now. Specialty cars will go up. That desire is still there. Remember, we are at the last stages of ICE vehicles. Especially ones that are Manuals and a collectors car that’s numbered. Bad for anyone thinking they will get one at MSRP. That’s why it’s just a suggested retail price. Street price will vary on demand of buyers. Twenty times more buyers than supply. Blame Honda for not making more and keeping it limited in the highest buying market.

[@FallenArtemie]

This is such a cool car. Unfortunately because it starts with a 4 in it's price I probably have to wait til the face lift to get a used one. But thanks for making this Honda, and thanks for the video guys

[@s2kedwin502]

My dealer where I work adds another $30k for the mark up smh $80k for a civic no thank you lol

[@keirinmaster]

Liking those forged wheels. That's a must if you're getting that. Majorly adds to the appearance.

[@lavarclemmons1920]

I must say Civic came a long ways that is one gorgeous Type R right there and I never was into Hondas but I must say this year they are some nice cars I can't wait to see that new SI with the double head cam

[@DolphinsAreBetterThanHumans]

I love you guys & your amazing work.🥰 I wish i could join your team for anything. P.s. as you said, the price is now the new deciding factor for type R considering the rivals at 50k

[@touayaaj84]

Checo is my favorite F1 driver. He is so humble.

[@shadowreaver752]

He's a smooth operator

[@CarsMadeSimple]

$43,990 including destination... which just so happens to be $5 less than the Corolla GR Circuit Edition. Hmmm. Looks great! I like the more subtle look versus the last generation.

[@laszlogaspar1244]

Good luck on 44k😅

[@yovannydominguez2860]

@@laszlogaspar1244 I'm thinking that SOB is going to be marked up so high that at that point, you're better off buying a Supra Manual. Lol. Although the Type R will still hold its value more over time.

[@ryanb8736]

65k with markups.

[@laszlogaspar1244]

@@yovannydominguez2860 yes sir 😃

[@laszlogaspar1244]

@@ryanb8736 easy 😃👍

[@codyC423]

I love Throttle House and I'm glad I watched this. Now I want to see Keiichi Tsuchiya's impression of how this car drives at the limit. He's the end all authority about how any new Type R drives on the track

[@TheWoebegoneJackal]

Honda has always been the king of FF and I am glad this thing still handles like a champ. My CR-Z rotates a lot if you lift off which mad it so fun, can't wait to test drive this thing!

[@dredayetheridge]

You guys do a great job at reviews!

[@nathancook4918]

Love the car reviews! I have a 2019 CTR, Full Bolt On's pushing close to 400whp when I put in E85. I Love the Interior of the new CTR, however that outside you called it and its true, they went to the other end of the spectrum and it is way to tame now. Keep the reviews coming and looking forward to the track testing with GR, Golf R and CTR head to head.

[@hawkman996]

Poor James! 😂 Always love the throttle house way. Good honest review on a highly anticipated car. Can’t wait until you get your hands on back in Canada. Loved my 2017 and was really considering getting the 2023. That was until I tried 3 local dealers who said I’d be lucky to get one in the next 2-3 years due to low supply and a few people on the waiting list. I’m sure this will be 55-60k with mark up too, not to mention interest rates that are double what they were 2 months ago. Not paying that for a civic. Honestly disappointed with the price. Going to be “44k” with destination…does it even come with heated seats or steering wheel? The previous gen price I could forgive that but at mid 40’s it should have a few more options that are standard on basic cars.

[@chio987]

Those were my thoughts as well. The prices are just getting nuts, it's still a civic even if only in name. I personally would choose this or the Si last if for no other reason than the stupid electric parking brake, I just can't bring myself to accept it, and the red interior is nothing more than a "LOOK AT ME" "feature". I LOVE red with cars but no way would I live with that.

[@tenkayruanaya2554]

if you tune The Elantra N with no mods just a little tune you get way more performance . 340Whp and about same toque for way less .. i got my for $33,600 US

[@hhinojosareef1]

In my opinion one of the most beautiful civic type R ever made beautiful design.

[@gabegunn3]

My favorite KZbinrs reviewing one of the coolest hot hatches on the market, with an appearance from my favorite f1 driver, what’s not to love.

[@wileecoyote5749]

Ha Ha "KZbinr" Person with cellphone

[@EvanMcC240]

A very complete video considering how little time you likely had with the car! Great job - car looks good. Too bad ordering one over a year ago wasn't early enough and I won't likely see mine ... ever.

[@bluegold5186]

Really excited to see this car irl the front looks super cool🔥

[@dontyouworryaboutit_]

want one of these so bad, if everything lines up hopefully by the end of 24’ i’ll have one

[@TexasSteele67]

So glad ya'll made our race in Austin this year - Happy trails

[@hockeymann88]

I really like it. I'd definitely own one.

[@traun17]

I just love the way how you really talk about your differences and how good the car is and how bad it is without trying to just talk nothing but positive on a car that might not be that good

[@Ebearm3]

I was like " How the hell did you guys get an FL5 to review already?!" Great stuff ^^

[@wileecoyote5749]

3 people have 1 on my block since June

[@johna.4350]

Love the Type R, but for $44,000 its a much tougher choice. The GR Corolla starts at $36k and for the top options is $38k.

[@dannyd7714]

Top GRC is $50k bud

[@StarCitizenZero]

@@dannyd7714 He means a fully loaded GR Corolla Core, not the Moritzo.

[@TheFK8Life]

Corolla has a tiny engine that blows headgaskets at 500hp - you can eaily make 640hp with a Type R which is lighter

[@GrimSRT8]

Honda wants to get a cut of the ADM money, and I don’t blame them. My bigger issue is that for the next year you could buy a Camaro 1LE for the same money. So if you don’t need a (usable) back seat, the choice is obvious. The 1LE will obliterate the CTR in overall performance.

[@dknight25]

Core edition is watered down. Circuit has added vents, bigger wing for improved aero, LSD and carbon roof among other things. It would cost you a lot more if you buy a Core and try to add all the things. Type R is priced competitively with the Circuit which is the one people would want.

[@jshumphress13]

Anyone else here because of the Smoking Tire Podcast? I will say I love throttle house and have been subscribed for a long time.

[@staardrift7480]

I played the video and was looking elsewhere for a second then I heard "I'm Sergio". Checo does have a unique voice

[@JasonT883]

That ending killed me😂

[@raider____]

I really loved the 2020 civic type r it really felt a true new gen type R

[@dsher503]

Definitely not as interesting as the FK8 but so much more clean. I think it will age super well and will be able to take some more subtle racey mods to make it look a little more aggressive if that's what you want. Honda just needs to make the exhaust sound so much better. If it sounded like the Veloster N or Focus RS stock, I would be so excited for it. Sound is at least half of why I like to hoon a hot hatch around. Excited to see these on the road and hope people can get them for decent prices. I have a feeling a ton of the boy racers are just going to stay with the FK8 once the price goes down and maybe the average age of driver will go up a bit on the FL5. I guess I'll have to wait and see how many new Type R's try to race me when it's finally out lol.

[@TheBajamin]

It will not age well. Its a box with a wing. It will age like an early 2000s ricer car. A slow car that cost too much with a wing and nothing unique about it. Sure the last one was CRAZY but that was fun. This one looks like a car you mom would buy and her teenage son slapped a pep boys wing on. Also for the real world price of near $50k, can Honda not give me a $15k car interior? The seats are awesome, everything else looks like budget crap.

[@razvan3062]

@@TheBajamin as if the golf r has nicer interior materials or bolder exterior styling...

[@TheBajamin]

@@razvan3062 Are you not aware that more than one thing can be a ripoff at once?

[@razvan3062]

@@TheBajamin i would rather have better steering feel and faster track times than better interior quality... And so, in this hot hatch segment, this criteria you mentioned shouldn't be deal breakers.

[@LEORedSun]

I couldn't agree more. It's like an Accord with a Wing that a kid put on. I thought the previous styling was too racer boyz but now I wish Honda would stick to the previous Type R.

[@jeepneygang]

That little alert that let you know that you need to switch gears sounds like a harmonica.

[@billshoe22191]

$45k before stealership markup is insane. I would go Elantra N and save $10k

[@alsayedfakhri4597]

You pay less for a worse car. That's the trade off.

[@carsinruin6102]

Elantra N is amazing but the Hyundai dealer experience is terrible.

[@dougmoore6612]

Not gonna lie. A little bit of anxiety until I heard James’ voice. Sad he wasn’t there on camera. But a TH review without him at all would be no review at all!

[@aa6355-r4m]

I think the most underrated comparison people aren’t making is between the cost of this type R (with the markup) and the TLX Type s. It’s also a Honda, it’s faster, nicer inside and out, and is a true luxury car. Yes it may not be the same track weapon as this, but at 55 grand for the Type S, and 60-75 for this Type R… I’d go to the Acura dealer asap.

[@grizzle1629]

manual is the difference

[@dubzc5895]

That outtake at the end is great lol

[@dennvision1353]

Y’all are so legendary it’s crazy

[@antoniobermudez4989]

I actually always liked the previous design. And it’s true that looks just like my 2022 accord with a wing attack to the back. At that price point. I rather go for the manual transmission Supra: and do feel like you’re on something different

[@jameswillard1]

Knew everyone thinking the new Type R was going to be just barely over $40k (US) would be wrong. Used 2021’s are still damn near $50k for the last 12+ months and people buy them at that price, which Honda certainly sees, combined with inflation and I’d say we’re lucky they didn’t price it quite a bit higher

[@jabraan1360]

It’ll go up slowly

[@musclecarenjoyer]

Absolutely disgusting I’d never buy a civic for that much at that price point buy the damn golf r or Audi s3 both are faster and just as fun for like 2k more after destination who the fuck is buying this thing 😂😂 hell I’d get the base supra for 43k instead of this thing no I’d get the Elantra n basically a better version of this thing for 12k less

[@jaybosher6144]

@@musclecarenjoyer this. Dude its a civic underneath it all. I can't believe they want 42 before the dealers get ahold of you.

[@JA-uv8nh]

@@musclecarenjoyer lol Audi s3 is not faster than a type r …. Golf r is also not faster , only off a dig .

[@ryanb8736]

Markups will be 65k plus.

[@allyance8846]

Great job guys. The car is a beast. 👍🏼

[@stormierbody8419]

2:33 so glad I’m not the only one that thought this new gen of civics look more like an accord than the new accord does

[@andrewb325]

The fact that it has no fake vents is enough of an improvement for me. I think this car looks best in any color other than white. That red looks great.

[@daebak7370]

It look really good in that sky blue paint

[@MrNoVimBr]

We miss you James! Thomas held it down tho ✊🏾✊🏾

[@lbc2840]

Just the styling alone makes this infinitely better than previous gen.

[@fedefernandez1219]

Sergio Pérez!!!! Omg! He is amazing. So good u brought it to the show. Cheers guys, u r doing a great job

[@shawnscott1254]

Stellar video gents. Loved the honourable mention of PartSource lol. As always, great combination of information, opinion and humour. I’m a sub for life.

[@jadentha1090]

Been a fan of the Latest Gen of type Rs. Although I'm an owner of a MK5 Supra, seeing these cars come out brings a lot more fun on the road!

[@charliecharlie8621]

Undoubtedly on the large side, but possibly the best looking CTR since EK9. The last gen looked like a parody of itself.

[@Tigerex966]

The price increases on the si and type r are insane! And that's before the markups.

[@MrJjburgess11]

Prices on cars are up across the board. The VW GtI is 35-37k now .

[@Tigerex966]

@@MrJjburgess11 just about $32k after destination where I'm at. 2021 Civic SI went up $2300 last year and about a thousand this year... And lost another standard expensive upgrade like heated seats and 4 adjustable dampers, one of which alone cost about $450 to replace retail, and there's 4, that's almost $2000 alone right there. The markups on the hondas are also insane.! Elantra N, Subaru STI, Mazda 3 turbo, not so much. You can actually get those for under MSRP if you ship around. The Civic Type R went up about $$5000 in just one year, that's atrocious, Luke with the Nussa Z, although that did get a better engine upgrade, Civic type R with just a model change and better tuning almost no performance upgrades.

[@MrJjburgess11]

@@Tigerex966 yeah , crazy times we are in now. Everything getting out of control. Gas was going down. Now its on its way back up. 😞

[@righteousinphillthy9483]

Throttle House + Straight Pipes = Canada 💨💨🔥🔥🔥

[@sage11x]

$44K for a Civic. These… are interesting times we’re living in. Personally, if I wanted something fast: I’m not buying this. If I wanted something fun: also not buying this. If I wanted a jack-of-all-trades, one-car-solution daily/sports car: also not buying this. This is for the Honda boys. Pure and simple. No one else need apply.

[@magmagamer13]

Thomas conoció al viejo sabroso en la prueba del Type R 😳

[@dividead100]

The previous model's wing may have been out there but it did look like it was designed like that. The new one just looks like default long car with random spoiler attached. Overall the old one had a better more cohesive design even if it was more "look at me!".

[@td2688]

yeah, It looks like a cheap Ebay wing. Im sure it is easy to remove it though.

[@redrock861]

The last gen looked ridiculously stupid from every angle. I'd be embarrassed to be standing near it let alone be seen in one.

[@ConfusedGeriatric]

@@redrock861 yep… 🤮🤮🤮

[@jimmypena2442]

@@redrock861 embarrassed? Man im embarrassed to be driving the highest trim Civic. So many ways that could be taken.

[@fafiteee]

@@redrock861 true, this gen civic automatically looks 10x better without the obscene amounts of fake vents and generally cleaner overall design

[@LifeISMagix]

Absolutely beautiful car. Easily the best Civic ever made and now with no STI around, a rare type of car. I haven’t driven one and I don’t know how well it drives and whether it would be better with AWD, which would be my preference.

[@stmcdowell77]

You got Checo to do a review with you!!! This is epic!

[@jax9074]

Styling wise somewhere in the middle of this and the last one would have been perfect. That spoiler really does look like something off Amazon.

[@skipadbutton7526]

Excited to see your track times to see how the Elantra N compares 😍

[@cleopasmakaza9873]

Always been a huge fan of thr type R and the styling of the previous Gen i loved the most as it WAS different. I still love this design but i feel they played it too safe.

[@harsh_rujkoomar]

Let's be honest, the new type R is absolutely gorgeous👌🔥

[@Tunnelsnakes]

Yeah, really do like the more matured look. I’m sure it’ll grow on many.

[@laxislife143]

Old one better

[@kc510]

I like the look alot but it’s so big.

[@smiddysmidton8313]

Must be styled for American taste , i think it looks horrid. So fat and bloated!

[@GrimSRT8]

I don’t think it’s gorgeous at all, but it’s not hideous like the last generation. So that’s a HUGE improvement. If this was a $15K used car I could pick up as a beater I’d get one, but there’s now way I’d pay MSRP much for this car. It’s cool, but not $45K cool.

[@saucyp123]

"The underside of a horseshoe crab" is actually the perfect description of how the old car looked. Wow

[@thechump10]

Just got a civic sport hatchback. I now want to own a type R sometime in my life. They have one in sonic grey near me and it looks sick af

[@mituc]

Well... I have to admit I like the look of the outgoing model more :) This model is easier to wax though.

[@Cataclysm1]

$50k+ is insane.

[@intoitshots420]

Right, just get a Supra at that point