2022 Subaru WRX Review // Class Of One

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@Skfkf1393a
@Skfkf1393a 2 жыл бұрын
“A refined lumber jack is just a…barista.” Exactly why I watch this channel.
@vlj1133
@vlj1133 2 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it. That line was definitely comment-worthy.
@serhiy1237
@serhiy1237 2 жыл бұрын
Sure it is. It’s like (good) old auto journalism meets blogging. They review the car BEFORE filming and give you evaluated examination instead of you looking at stupid face reactions of the guy who cannot spell specs himself, let alone point out pros/cons over competition.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 2 жыл бұрын
Because these two boneheads are baristas?
@ryanrebel1073
@ryanrebel1073 2 жыл бұрын
Bet me to it! lol
@ervenbonganimtimkhulu
@ervenbonganimtimkhulu 2 жыл бұрын
Most quotable quotes of quotes from this channel... Hahaha
@shaw8623
@shaw8623 Жыл бұрын
A 4-door AWD 6-speed turbo made in Japan with analog gauges and a real handbrake for under $35k?..this is unbelievably a great car..it’s like a classic Japanese sports car that can be bought new..I think some of us are just getting too spoiled.. 😊 this car will be dearly missed one day.
@karmahunden
@karmahunden 10 ай бұрын
This comment is underrated.
@eliezergutierrez2472
@eliezergutierrez2472 10 ай бұрын
@@karmahundenvery true
@kabob21
@kabob21 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, no. I’d rather get an older “stink eye” STi hatch and upgrade the infotainment
@eliezergutierrez2472
@eliezergutierrez2472 10 ай бұрын
@@kabob21 facts
@adamdaake7488
@adamdaake7488 9 ай бұрын
I just bought new 2023 base for 29650
@yanboa
@yanboa 2 жыл бұрын
Just making sure you guys are constantly reminded that we massively appreciate the incredible production quality of every single one of your videos. Amazing stuff. Rivals anyone, anywhere.
@oc0dyc
@oc0dyc 2 жыл бұрын
I was with you until Titu showed up with a pretty convincing counter-argument …
@hey_myk
@hey_myk 2 жыл бұрын
@@oc0dyc 🤣
@ikkenhisatsu7170
@ikkenhisatsu7170 Жыл бұрын
Look, I'm almost 65 years old. I had an MG back in the day, a VW Corrado the year they were introduced, a Saab 900 Turbo and a Volvo C30. I loved them all but this WRX is the most fun of any car I've ever driven. If you're like me and can't afford a C8, or Porsche, or BMW (yecch) and don't want the maintenance woes and expense, I can't imagine anything better.
@fez3327
@fez3327 6 ай бұрын
I'm a bit younger, I've driven the Si, sat in the R, driven the VW GTI, .... also had an MG B, RX7, Miata, Northstar Caddi, The WRX has a shifter, and a hand-brake! It feels a bit like the Volvo Brick Turbo I could never afford.
@nickjacobsss
@nickjacobsss 2 жыл бұрын
I thought these were hideous from the internet, but after seeing one in person i’ve totally changed my mind. They look pretty great in real life
@Sir_Logurt
@Sir_Logurt 2 жыл бұрын
I had this exact revelation today, looked super clean in person
@Spacemonkeymojo
@Spacemonkeymojo Жыл бұрын
I saw one for the first time in person today as well and I thought the same thing! Those wheel arches are still nasty though.
@cybertroy2
@cybertroy2 Жыл бұрын
Looks best in white color I reckon. The contrast is fire.
@27qwljrob2
@27qwljrob2 11 ай бұрын
I noticed that while building one on their website yesterday. It surprised me. The stark contrast between the white paint and the black cladding is so intense that it somehow makes the cladding less noticeable. The cladding almost seems to blend into the darkness of the wheel well, tires, and black wheels. I think that combination with the cherry red mud flaps would look good. @@cybertroy2
@eyes2338
@eyes2338 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I dont get that feeling the wheel arches and real doesn't do it for me.
@crxtodd16
@crxtodd16 2 жыл бұрын
The car enthusiast's channel for the people, by the people. Well done as always, gentlemen. Thank you for your service.
@RolyMoes
@RolyMoes 2 жыл бұрын
but the people are... kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3fKlKR4bZJ0rqc (just kidding of course, these guys are great)
@crxtodd16
@crxtodd16 2 жыл бұрын
@@RolyMoes Lol
@jaybosher6144
@jaybosher6144 2 жыл бұрын
90% of wrxs were bought with a manual. Subaru: let's put all our best options on the cvt. Wtf
@alexc7864
@alexc7864 2 жыл бұрын
I mean that's what Honda does and they probably saw their success with it. Ofc they reserve the best of the best for their STI/Type R models.
@jaybosher6144
@jaybosher6144 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexc7864 your not getting it, they are putting their best, WRX not sti, options like Recaro seats and adaptive suspension behind the cvt trans, their worst selling model. No company does that
@grriceman782
@grriceman782 2 жыл бұрын
Seems ridiculous!! I have a strong feeling we’ll see some changes to the ‘23 lineup. Perhaps some minor cosmetic improvements as well, assuming Subaru actually cares what its customers prefer.
@TheBigNate505
@TheBigNate505 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing it's because they're trying to attract a larger market. By making a WRX with a CVT, adaptable dampers, and "adventure" inspired plastic cladding that the general public seems to like Subaru have created a car that is more attractive to the average car buyer instead of the enthusiast. Being that the enthusiast market is much smaller than the nonenthusiast market it makes some sense from a business perspective. Just a guess.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaybosher6144 It makes sense because those specific items are low profit options. Their highest profit margin trim is exactly what’s in this video. Recaro seats, the CVT, adaptive suspension and iSight aren’t cheap to build/purchase.
@wtsane5449
@wtsane5449 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought my first subaru at 56, having been a car guy my whole life. The overall impression so far is one of simple, uncompromising competence. If the WRX is anything like this, I can see why their followers are rabid badger loyal.
@No_Comment87
@No_Comment87 2 жыл бұрын
A rabid badger is better looking
@tvang464
@tvang464 2 жыл бұрын
@@No_Comment87 no comment
@jralphroman
@jralphroman 2 жыл бұрын
I also bought my first Subaru WRX at mid age (also being a car guy) quickly traded it… I feel at our age we deserve more…went with a gentlemen sports car in a Audi S3 and have no regrets.
@lordraiden5398
@lordraiden5398 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my 02 WRX at 34 years old. Still have it and have modified it every step of the way. 2019 I bought a 09' Forester X which was supposed to be my winter car that replaced a 98' Audi A8 (electrical issues). Now it has a full suspension upgrade and handles like it on rails. I will be 55 this November and will never give up my babies.
@bella_testastretta
@bella_testastretta 2 жыл бұрын
congrats on your purchase! all you need is a vape now if you don't vape already lol
@preston4050
@preston4050 4 ай бұрын
Recently bought the 6 speed wrx and I am not disappointed in the slightest. Very minimal turbo lag, great feel and quality for the price. Definitely would recommend it to anyone.
@chrislaid214
@chrislaid214 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of the looks, WRX still performs on the curves, dirtroad, asphalt and that's enough reason to buy it.
@CRatcliffe
@CRatcliffe 2 жыл бұрын
I still will never understand how they thought “let’s give the recaro seats to ONLY the model with the cvt”
@RatedKwong1
@RatedKwong1 2 жыл бұрын
to encourage more buyers to get the cvt and stray away from manuals
@KennyHaan
@KennyHaan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s criminal
@tonychau1983
@tonychau1983 2 жыл бұрын
@superkadabra whats the manual take rate for wrx 80%?
@tonychau1983
@tonychau1983 2 жыл бұрын
@superkadabra sorry to hear that
@emissarygw2264
@emissarygw2264 2 жыл бұрын
@borek obunga I think the WRX is one of the very rare exceptions where manual is more popular than auto. But whereas if you can drive manual you can also drive auto, the reverse is not true, so it's probably one of those things where the volume of higher trims sold is low enough that they want to consolidate to just auto.
@talkingdentalinnovation681
@talkingdentalinnovation681 2 жыл бұрын
Im up to my 8th Subaru, I had most of them, turbos, NA, Auto, manual, wagons, Suv's you name it! Here in Canada, the value of a Subaru is there. For me the last great Subaru was the 11-14 Wrx. Those cars had. Soul! Wagon, 2.5L turbo with Subaru Rumble, wide arches, simple interior. To have that same formula again in a large legacy wagon (family men need cool cars also) I would be in heaven!
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had 3, my current daily is a 2011 Outback 3.6R. Also had an ej25 swapped GF8 hatch years ago, and an 2008 Impreza 2.5i… almost bought an ascent but went with the Grand Cherokee L
@fatkat311
@fatkat311 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 15 and would love my engine in a 14. Still not a huge fan of my 15 even though I’ve had it for seven years
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 2 жыл бұрын
Also the drive an 11-14, felt numb compared to a GF8. The 90’s were the best years for imports
@EOCA
@EOCA 2 жыл бұрын
I am hoping my seventh Subaru with be the next gen STI. I am so excited/NERVOUS to see what the factory does. Fingers crossed that they take on this opportunity to impress us, and do not roll out this exact same WRX with a 315hp motor.
@talkingdentalinnovation681
@talkingdentalinnovation681 2 жыл бұрын
@@EOCAunfortunately I cant see it to be more then 335hp. I was a Subaru sales rep in the mid 2000s. Man the STI had respect back then. The conversation was alway 'wow is that a STI? That thing is as fast as a Porsche' now its ....look another STI. That this is as fast as a 2.0L Accord lol
@milyxbixch
@milyxbixch 2 жыл бұрын
The taillights look like they'd be at home on a 2012 civic 😬
@derekaldrich330
@derekaldrich330 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that. Just feels like a 10+ year old Civic in the back. It's not awful, just...uninspired.
@sadiqsamawi
@sadiqsamawi 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!
@brobob52
@brobob52 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Dont mean to beat a dead horse, but damn. The wrx is just....ugly imo.
@Skfkf1393a
@Skfkf1393a 2 жыл бұрын
You are talking as if Imprezas were pretty before. The only good looking Impreza was the GCs. We all bought Imprezas knowing they were ugly as a sin inside and out.
@thedarkgreenvanman
@thedarkgreenvanman 2 жыл бұрын
Well you’ll be sure to see a lot them driving one of those
@misterpsych3804
@misterpsych3804 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, In Oregon USA. Called a bunch of dealers for this. None to be found. So… just bought a 2018 limited Sti, with no wing. No sales tax here . 20,000 miles. Out the door for $ 39400. With new tires. Never drove the sti until three days ago. Very impressed. that thing is planted and rips. Real quick. Very happy. Take delivery in 2 days. Can’t wait months and months for this new Wrx. Oh yeah, mine actually Looks Good! Btw , this is by far my favorite channel.
@jonathandavidar
@jonathandavidar 2 жыл бұрын
Always the driver's point of view. Love the way in which you address usability and ergonomic issues. Thank you for such compelling, well-designed, and edited content! Nobody does car reviews like you - and you still celebrate manuals. Keep revving!
@tigerhawk84
@tigerhawk84 2 жыл бұрын
Subaru themselves said when they dropped the hatch for the 2015 model year, they didn't really notice a drop in sales much, if at all. That basically solidified its position in the grave. Saves them a lot of money and the customer doesn't care(proven with their wallet, where it counts. Also why manuals are dying cause people say they want them but then nobody buys them)
@peterretep1010
@peterretep1010 2 жыл бұрын
Sad but the truth. They ain’t about to comfort the minorities oppose to the majority.
@k-peezy2723
@k-peezy2723 2 жыл бұрын
I get the concern about the manual transmissions, but I think it's only true in time and place. The USDM complained enough that BMW retrofitted a six speed manual to the E60 M5 as an option for instance. Also, in cars like "ze Germans" you get a proper well sorted automatic that is in fact just better all around than an old school manual (you say you want the manual for gearhead points, but you know the auto is what you really want to live with). In the WRX? It's either a proper manual, or that reheated leftover of a CVT that all other manufacturers saw as useless in the face of newer and better autos and dumped it. If Subaru used a proper DCT or ZF automatic instead of that CVT, they'd sell WAY MORE. Not just auto vs manuals, but WRX's in total.
@pondmonserfox
@pondmonserfox 2 жыл бұрын
If this were any other car I would agree with manual transmission comment but according to Subaru themselves, 90% of all the WRXs they sold in the last generation were in fact manuals which makes it even more puzzling why they would only offer the GT trim with the CVT.
@Jay-yg8jj
@Jay-yg8jj 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason sales didn't drop is because the WRX still stands alone on the AWD/Turbo/6MT platform for 26-30k. If someone else pulled their head out of their ass and developed a 275-300HP hatchback with realtime AWD and a standard 6MT, Subaru would see sales drop almost immediately. It's just that there's no other option in that price range. Sure, we all want an AWD Hatch/Turbo/6MT, but you can't get one so a sedan is the next best thing...
@marasco.official
@marasco.official 2 жыл бұрын
@@pondmonserfox they've explained it - they see a market opportunity. When you think about it, it seems smart idea, however, the car looks old, like from the 2005.... Styling won't get any good for reaching the new customers, and I think it's a huge deal these days, people want to be noticed.
@H2o3G2a
@H2o3G2a 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still completely attached to my 2013 sti. It's not the most popular opinion but I think that the stink eye is the best looking subaru with a balance of modern and old tech. Imo, 2013 was the last year subaru felt right.
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 2 жыл бұрын
2014 was the last year they made the wide body Subie! I agree that's the best looking generation for sure!👍
@Sireristof1332
@Sireristof1332 2 жыл бұрын
@PYXB3 doesnt matter what happens before combustions die i will probably put everything in my hatch, i hate the new ones they get more girly every year. And theyre also sharing the same prices nowadays as gti's and others
@erikleblanc4539
@erikleblanc4539 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir I have a 2011 sti and I wouldn’t have it any either way 💪🏻
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 2 жыл бұрын
seems like the 2015 improved on it in all ways.. minus the loss of the hatch
@alexizmonteiro2063
@alexizmonteiro2063 2 жыл бұрын
I would definitely buy a hatchback version 🤭 in a heartbeat for my 2018 sti but I don’t like the interior in that model 😂
@matthewb9241
@matthewb9241 2 жыл бұрын
The WRX is growing on me. Everyone always hates on the next gen WRX until everyone likes it.
@WitchYuki22
@WitchYuki22 Жыл бұрын
It's almost a tradition within the Subie cult lmao
@eyes2338
@eyes2338 8 ай бұрын
The cg8 is the one that everyone likes.
@HenkBlankes98
@HenkBlankes98 2 жыл бұрын
The blue looks SOOOOOO much better than that orange the initial renders had. Also really helps hide those fender covers. The styling is a step backwards yes, but the blue(any wrx/sti has to be)redeems it a little bit
@buss1205
@buss1205 Жыл бұрын
the style may not be ur favorite but its a huge step fowards in terms of functionality. as someone who actually uses their subie, i can definitely appreciate the more offroady approach they're taking
@DarkPassenger918
@DarkPassenger918 Жыл бұрын
@@buss1205 I love how the new WRX looks. Really anticipating getting mine
@QactisX
@QactisX 11 ай бұрын
IMO the magnetite gray looks best this gen. Not only is it a super cool gun metal color, the cladding -instead of clashing with the color or contrasting it- compliments it.
@mbz8944
@mbz8944 9 ай бұрын
I am driving one now for a month. This is an amazing car if you like an engaged driving experience. And the plastic that everyone is talking about, The weight, the durability and no concern for oxidization were all considered when this car was engineered. Absolutely love it.
@brodie5012
@brodie5012 2 жыл бұрын
Throttle house is better than what used to be my favourite KZbin channel carwow, great work guys
@stimannzz
@stimannzz 2 жыл бұрын
I owned a wrx and a STI…. Now I have a RS5. I love the power, the comfort and the look of the Audi but I miss the rumble and the fun of the 6 speed manual.
@eggy7346
@eggy7346 2 жыл бұрын
Good on you brother. I'll hop on the RS train some day I hope
@jamessterman5088
@jamessterman5088 2 жыл бұрын
Same also , I now own a 2019 RS5 sb
@nevercedes2070
@nevercedes2070 2 жыл бұрын
i'd rather have the feeling of missing and drive an RS5 lol keep winning King
@stimannzz
@stimannzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamessterman5088 2019 sportback also, color is white…
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld 2 жыл бұрын
Just 2-step your RS5. Audi/VW engines have the best sound when it comes to 2-step. Do this and you won't miss your Subaru. Everything about the Audi is better...
@TheWombatCredenza
@TheWombatCredenza 2 жыл бұрын
“A refined lumberjack is nothing more than a barista”. That’s great writing! TH rules out loud!
@TheKrisBunch
@TheKrisBunch 2 ай бұрын
I've had a 24 premium 6 Speed Manual for a month now. I absolutely love this car. They solved some of the interior weirdness you point out in the 2024. I personally love the plastic cladding. This is my 5th Subaru (2 foresters, 1 3.6r Outback, 1 Crosstrek). You can say I am a Subi fan. The highest praise I can give it. My wife, who does have an outback but knows nothing about the history of the WRX absolutely loves driving this car and driving it fast. I've had a 24 for
@IndifferentZ
@IndifferentZ 2 жыл бұрын
Another top-notch video from the best automotive review channel online. They always come across as knowledgeable without being pretentious, and the vids are very well done. Keep them coming, TH. Oh, and the "refined lumberjack/barista joke" had me rolling ... because it's true.
@ilimit
@ilimit 2 жыл бұрын
The last 2 generations of the wrx were definitely more aggressive looking. Remember when the base 2011 Wrx got the flared fenders vents from the previous 2008-2010 STi, and quad tips? It made a huge difference in looks. Smart move to whoever picked up any last model run STi and even smarter jumping in before Covid hit. Still very interesting to see what they do with the next gen STi.
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 2 жыл бұрын
The next gen STI does look pretty interesting as to what could be done. However, one thing that’s sort of disappointing to me is how Subaru is known to make some of the sexiest concepts, yet dull the production versions of the car down. Look up any one of Subaru’s concepts (namely the WRX Concept from 2013) and it looked nice and solidly proportionate. I’m not saying the production version of the last gen WRX was dulled down or anything, but it could’ve still gotten the more honed and sharp traits of the concept.
@alexizmonteiro2063
@alexizmonteiro2063 2 жыл бұрын
I bought mine in November 2020 and now it’s worth more than what I paid for it 😂
@Torquestable
@Torquestable 2 жыл бұрын
I know right ? I actually blind bough a 21' STI 6 months ago and I have to say that was the best car decision I've ever made.( 1 of 2 sports cars ) With Hydraulic steering wheel in 2021 !!!! The other one is NOT out yet and its Lotus Emira. Im also interested if they kept hydraulic steering in the new gen STI, thats the only way I would ever consider getting one.
@Torquestable
@Torquestable 2 жыл бұрын
@WRX_Matt Congrats on the car bro !
@Torquestable
@Torquestable 2 жыл бұрын
@WRX_Matt I bet once you drive it for the first time, you were good and refreshed by end of day
@Allwayzworkin
@Allwayzworkin 2 жыл бұрын
My 13’ wrx hatch is easily one of my faves. Looks? Subjective. But the character it has is undeniable. Glad I’m part of the Subie community. 🤙
@TDBRICKS
@TDBRICKS 2 жыл бұрын
The editing is amazing! Cool review. I didnt like this car when it first came out but now it’s starting to grow on me
@Car_Tism
@Car_Tism 2 жыл бұрын
And so it begins lol… 😄 I’ve owned 3 generations of WRXs and every one grew on people over time
@addicz2
@addicz2 2 жыл бұрын
Subaru never known for "Love at the first sight" design
@entropiated9020
@entropiated9020 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 WRX, and I would still pick that car over a 2022 simply for those ugly composite fenders around the wheels. So damn ugly.
@drizztatk
@drizztatk 2 жыл бұрын
I had an 08 STI. The hatch. And yep, it was fantastic. I spun a rod bearing because the oil pick up tube cracked ( known issue), and I had it built. Forged internals in a new short block, bigger turbo, e85, elh, etc. I loved it. It could literally do it all with 420 hp at the wheels (on e85). If they made a stock one with a hatch and at least 400hp I’d consider getting one. Unless they screwed up the looks… At least the re-sale value is fantastic, helped me out putting money down on my 17 SS.
@DoubleOSevan
@DoubleOSevan 2 жыл бұрын
I've been a Subie enthusiast for a while and every new gen that comes out has people screaming that it's a disgrace... then it outsells the previous gen every time. I like the new looks - especially in blue. Got a lot of cool options coming up with the GR Corolla, Type R, and STI.
@Evolution10X
@Evolution10X Жыл бұрын
GRvCorolla is disappointing in both looks and price tag.
@ericstefko4852
@ericstefko4852 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning the rev hang question ; no current reviews talked about it. It was a big enough reason for me move on from Subaru as my next ride
@campurdy9083
@campurdy9083 2 жыл бұрын
Cobb stage 1 tune fixes it immediately. Not cheap, but have never regretted it and the tune adds a flatter torque curve and a bit more power
@joeboland95
@joeboland95 2 жыл бұрын
Hanging onto my '12 wrx. 197k miles on the clock. Planning to drop a new engine in and STI transmission and go for another 100k. Although the new STI started to grow on me, if there's no hatch then I'm not super interested. Can't wait for the GR Corolla
@silviodante5829
@silviodante5829 2 жыл бұрын
You’re part of the minority of people who actually like the hatch. Idk how anyone can like it honestly
@mikebauman1752
@mikebauman1752 2 жыл бұрын
@@silviodante5829 lol dude everyone likes it
@silviodante5829
@silviodante5829 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikebauman1752 No, They don’t.
@mikebauman1752
@mikebauman1752 2 жыл бұрын
@@silviodante5829 your crazy 98 percent of the people prefer a hatch in wrx
@silviodante5829
@silviodante5829 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikebauman1752 they really don’t. You must live in some kind of bubble buddy. Go in all the major wrx/sti groups on fb and very few of them actually like them. You’re just trying to justify your purchase of an ugly vehicle and it’s obvious.
@noone1704
@noone1704 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a car with cladding and it got so discolored from the sun it didn't look black anymore, almost instantly. Also saving most options for the cvt is ridiculously stupid.
@GabeShowNetwork
@GabeShowNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
It's because i'm betting this is the last generation of the ICE wrx and since electric cars don't have manual gearboxes, they want to have a bit of a normalish transition from their top their GT trim that has all the goodies an electric car would have too
@lucian7182
@lucian7182 2 жыл бұрын
You have to use some of that toxic back to black shit on it. Make sure to wear gloves and breathing protection because that stuff is toxic. Makes it look brand new for a couple of months.
@boostid8026
@boostid8026 2 жыл бұрын
You mean sUBaRu pErForManCe TrAnSmiSSon 😵‍💫
@jazenkow5792
@jazenkow5792 2 жыл бұрын
@@boostid8026 Can bet that this gearbox will hold much longer than manuals in most *homemade rally* owners hands...
@boostid8026
@boostid8026 2 жыл бұрын
@@jazenkow5792 my last car was a WRX CVT 2019. It had a transmission oil pan leak after 20k miles it was stage 1 +.. which I read up was probably the most power to make in a CVT. However, after getting the oil pan patched and additional research I sold it probably 4-5 months later. I picked up a 2019 STI. CVT was a fun car! But it’s built for fuel economy not performance. Dual clutch would’ve been a much better transmission. I’m speaking from Experience when I say avoid the CVT unless you plan on 0 mods besides maybe a exhaust. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@grimloxx
@grimloxx 2 ай бұрын
2 years later , the car is aging like fine ass wine
@fayizd654
@fayizd654 Ай бұрын
It's a great car
@dlcurtis69
@dlcurtis69 25 күн бұрын
I have a 23 WRX in white, 6 speed manual. I love the car. It's fun to drive.
@JohnLee-hb9ix
@JohnLee-hb9ix 2 жыл бұрын
“Why can’t I get a turbo charged hatchback!” Took the words out of my (and thousands of others) mouth! Subaru has been making some “weird” (bad) choices lately…going away from their core buyers
@ArronPeaceXI
@ArronPeaceXI 2 жыл бұрын
they're doing what mazda has been doing recently, alienating their biggest and most loyal fans by trying to appeal to parents who want a kid carrier that's "cool"
@vomErsten
@vomErsten 2 жыл бұрын
I am struggling to think of an automaker that hasn't been making a long string of big mistakes recently. Hyundai Group? Toyota?
@Jay-yg8jj
@Jay-yg8jj 2 жыл бұрын
@@vomErsten Hyundai has been absolutely smashing it. The KIA stinger is still a great option, the Elantra N actually looks unique and scoots pretty good, the Telluride is still very popular and a good looking vehicles. They give you upscale interiors and JUST enough performance that you can't complain.
@vomErsten
@vomErsten 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jay-yg8jj They have been pushing their exterior styling a little too far, IMHO, but overall I agree. The Veloster N is an under-appreciated gem of a car.
@RAZGR1Z
@RAZGR1Z 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArronPeaceXI Mazda makes more money doing that. They are working with Toyota on a sports car though. Most likely the GT3 concept vehicle will have the inline six co-developed between Mazda and Toyota.
@GabeShowNetwork
@GabeShowNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
I still love my 2020, i think the looks overall went down, drive ability probably increased slightly but with no major updates to the trans/power output so I wouldn't consider the new generation much of an upgrade from the last, but if i didn't have my VA I could still see myself getting the 2022 because it's basicly the VA with the few gripes fixed + some plastic so it looks different. Interior looks more in line with the 2020s decade, however i still prefer the cool customizable top screen you can display your oil temp/boost%/mpg etc, with the touch screen for Maps and spotify and the physical knobs and bottons for the climate controls/buttwarmers. It's the perfect combination. The base model interior for the 2022 is atrocious, compared to the outgoing base model. My conclusion: Still a great car and choice for what we love about subaru, boxer engines and turbos and good suspension and AWD system. The looks will grow on everyone, it seems half of the Subaru community sees someone buy any generation subaru and goes "looks great throw some wheel arches and a lip kit on it and it'll be great!" and as soon as one comes from the factory with it everyone hates it. I'm not saying the backend looks good, the VA was perfect for the amount of plastic back there
@ianwalter3349
@ianwalter3349 2 жыл бұрын
What gripes do you have with your ‘20? Rev GABF still an issue, currently looking at some ‘21’s.
@tbh1444
@tbh1444 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, as Canadians you can do something I haven't seen done yet with a modern touch-screen based car. Come up north with 3 all touch-screen, haptic feedback bs cars (actual north, but drivable, like Kapuskasing) park them outside on an average night, and then try to start them in the morning. I want to see what the EQS acre-of-touchscreen dashboard, or the iPad in the Subie, looks like after 12 hours in -40°.
@calebneff5777
@calebneff5777 Жыл бұрын
In 2019 I was in a Subaru dealership for several hours. I was on the brink of buying a WRX. It was great. I loved the speed, I loved the practicality, I live in Iowa so there's no shortage of snow or gravel roads, I loved the look. but in the end I didn't buy it for one reason and one reason only: rev hang. Here I am having driven a Jeep Patriot for the last 4 years and I like it, but I'm ready to give another WRX a try. Let's hope this is a good one.
@Manic_Mitch.official
@Manic_Mitch.official 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for making such a great show here on KZbin! Ive been recovering from tonsil surgery and binge watching all of your episodes!
@Armen567
@Armen567 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome. I look forward to each and every review.
@alexanderdeburdegala4609
@alexanderdeburdegala4609 2 жыл бұрын
Having sold every since version... every single one was HATED for its looks when it came out. Go back to forums for 2014/15 everyone HATED IT! Said it looked like a Camera. The Bug Eye when it came out was hated MOST in my experience.
@alexc7864
@alexc7864 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah idk if there's saving that plastic tho. I get hating a new design but this is hating a new design that somehow looks more dated than the one before.
@zcmdzpp127
@zcmdzpp127 2 жыл бұрын
The bug eye was the best looking..lol
@victorrodartecandiani9317
@victorrodartecandiani9317 2 жыл бұрын
@@zcmdzpp127 and it was hated the most tho
@Trendyflute
@Trendyflute 2 жыл бұрын
The 2010 widebody update was pretty universally liked, as was the hawk eye in 2006.
@zcmdzpp127
@zcmdzpp127 2 жыл бұрын
@@Trendyflute people like the Hawkeye because there so few..just one year 2006..lol
@grriceman782
@grriceman782 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review…thanks guys…been looking forward to this one!! It’s because of this black cladded plagued ‘22, 4mo ago I snagged a ‘21 Limited with the short throw shifter option. I’m thrilled with my 3rd WRX.
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 2 жыл бұрын
@@alunesh12345 There’s no god, bud, just like there’s no Santa that rewards good kids with toys & punishes bad ones with lumps of coal. It’s time to grow up, Aluani..
@niewissen9912
@niewissen9912 2 жыл бұрын
@@alunesh12345 it's a bot not a person
@user-oq8hw8lo1k
@user-oq8hw8lo1k 2 жыл бұрын
The black cladding & trim makes the WRX look like a rally car of the future. No paint makes total sense, I love it. Great bold choice Subaru!
@LeoMkII
@LeoMkII 2 жыл бұрын
Agree! It's like the only car on earth that rocks the cladding but people still complain lol
@elnino7822
@elnino7822 2 жыл бұрын
Showing the stars in the beginning, as a tribute to the Pleiades star cluster which the Subaru badge is a reference to, makes me appreciate you guys. Thanks for that. You've got a dedicated viewer now. Cheers
@m.stnz1
@m.stnz1 2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome introduction - the transition of environmental shots just on point with the music. Karston just really steps up his game!
@badbeatking80
@badbeatking80 2 жыл бұрын
This WRX is starting to look better day by day. It's a fun car to drive, practical and lots of room to make this a beast
@brandondannys-menary3678
@brandondannys-menary3678 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to own one, found a few in my area for around 31k for a base model, or around 35k for a premium. Still higher than it should be but that’s todays economy lol
@Jay-yg8jj
@Jay-yg8jj 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandondannys-menary3678 Just wait for the car market to implode and pick up one for less than MSRP during the recession.
@brandondannys-menary3678
@brandondannys-menary3678 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jay-yg8jj good idea lol
@waykool698
@waykool698 2 жыл бұрын
“10s of thousands would say i want it, and 5 would buy it” that explains most the people online. Haha
@chanceroberson7517
@chanceroberson7517 2 жыл бұрын
I keep saying this but the production and quality of every video goes up with every upload. Such a fantastic channel
@DoubleClutchAutoReviews
@DoubleClutchAutoReviews Жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice the "way less sad" song in the gauge cluster screen @ 3:08 as James is talking about less rev hang? That certainly makes me way less sad about the new WRX! Hahah
@automotive_passion
@automotive_passion 2 жыл бұрын
I still prefer the older version, it just looks better, a good al round car at a fair price.
@nickval5962
@nickval5962 2 жыл бұрын
When the last generation of WRX came out (Evo eye) I instantly fell in love, though I went for the BRZ cause I wanted a 2 door. But still a very nice car. This is... eh. The front end is nice, the hood scoop looks better, love the seats and the gauges. But I hate that plastic cladding, the entire rear end, and that huge IPAD.. terrible. Don't see this generation being too popular.
@Fifthcell
@Fifthcell 2 жыл бұрын
People said the same about the new BRZ, but I can already see the massive change in opinion on it, and I know it will be exactly the same with this car
@nickval5962
@nickval5962 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fifthcell Nah, when the new BRZ came out, it was a change, yes, but most people welcomed it. The exact same goes for the new civic. I've personally always loved both. The hate is justified on the new WRX. - The plastic cladding in general (at least color match it), -An awkward, unproportioned, and bloated rear end. -The massive IPAD that looks completely out of place, - Barely any increase in engine performance. - Locking the Recaro seats and adaptive suspension behind the CVT???
@garboi8976
@garboi8976 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fifthcell nah man I have the 2022 GR86 and not one person has told me they like the first gen better or they’re not sure about the looks. I’d say it’s pretty well accepted/appreciated in my personal experience.
@Fifthcell
@Fifthcell 2 жыл бұрын
@@garboi8976 really? I’ve only heard negatives about it when it was introduced. I’m glad to hear it’s being accepted though
@garboi8976
@garboi8976 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fifthcell at the few meets I’ve been to so far it’s definitely been a talking piece for sure. All compliments besides the occasional “it’s slow” “where’s the turbo” type stuff. Maybe since they’re uncommon where I live people are just excited to see one 🤷🏻‍♂️
@jaymoore332
@jaymoore332 2 жыл бұрын
Light steering is good for rally. It would be sensory overload to feel every surface imperfection on the stage.
@alexmartin-schael7556
@alexmartin-schael7556 2 жыл бұрын
Good comment. Also, I have been driving a 2022 WRX for a month and have not felt at all that it does not have a good steering. My car is still in the break-in period, so I am treating it gently, but feels pretty solid so far and sends on a lot of confidence. Definitely, the steering does not feel below anything in this price range (speacially if you value having AWD and a stick). I own a 2014 BMW M135i and the WRX is close to match and even superior in some respects.
@optionstrader9637
@optionstrader9637 2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely very sensitive steering but that makes it that much better to drive imo
@sunnyvalentino
@sunnyvalentino 2 жыл бұрын
The WRX and Golf R hold their value like few cars. There's a reason why. This is the rough tough version of the R. I love it including the cladding (which is good for rallying) other than the rear end.
@DL-xf3ur
@DL-xf3ur 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the WRX video guys! Appreciate it. I've been waiting for this one.
@ChrisN06999
@ChrisN06999 2 жыл бұрын
"...a refined lumberjack is just a barista." ~Thomas, February 2022.
@clappednotso445
@clappednotso445 2 жыл бұрын
that actually cracked me up
@No_Comment87
@No_Comment87 2 жыл бұрын
The WRX is like a girl you don't want to be seen with so you have to drive out of town to have some fun with her once in a while 😉
@christopherherr7561
@christopherherr7561 2 жыл бұрын
Damn
@vikingmetalhead024
@vikingmetalhead024 2 жыл бұрын
I've always found recent Subarus have comatose steering feel. Shame to see the WRX keeps that trend going.
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 2 жыл бұрын
How was steering feel in the 13 WRX? I'm thinking about buying one!
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't give a shit about the styling but I NEED steering feel in my cars. Same goes for post 2011 BMW 😭
@dw4686
@dw4686 2 жыл бұрын
@@germanengineering204 2013 still has a hydraulic rack so you're good
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 2 жыл бұрын
@@dw4686 Thanks for the feedback really good to know 👍
@michaelwilburn1001
@michaelwilburn1001 2 жыл бұрын
Love yalls content. Can't wait for the Elantra N comparison.
@RB-xv9os
@RB-xv9os 2 жыл бұрын
Idk about you guys but I always like these vids right after the skit
@ricknolan1671
@ricknolan1671 2 жыл бұрын
Stink eye was the last time the wrx looked and sounded great. Loved my 2013 for 128k miles until it blew the engine.
@nadiranarain9309
@nadiranarain9309 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video (as always)! I really like how they have been adding bloopers to the end of their videos! Great work guys! 💙
@autointern7371
@autointern7371 2 жыл бұрын
I saw it in an authoshow and liked the design overall. Loved the interior. I think the STI will get rid of the cladding or add an option for it to be painted as body color. We have to thank subaru for still making fun cars with manuals.
@sevay696
@sevay696 Жыл бұрын
The plastic are actually great. If you guys are from Canada you know that salt does a lot of damage to fender flares and rocker panels. The plastic is soooo great its a good Idea when you live a little bit on the edge of big towns where salt' dirt and gravel are common
@thestormking6737
@thestormking6737 2 жыл бұрын
As a Subaru technician I’ve driven both manual and automatic wrx’s and have already driven the new 2022 wrx and worked on it and I have to say that the cvt is not slow. Subarus new cvt is going to change the game of cvt’s
@tonychau1983
@tonychau1983 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@legoguy5944
@legoguy5944 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad i went with a 2020 sti. Even though dated, no one can deny the drive is alot of fun and still more engaging then others
@garethwillmott4234
@garethwillmott4234 2 жыл бұрын
Did you just say your 2020 is dated?
@MusicLover1049
@MusicLover1049 2 жыл бұрын
@@garethwillmott4234 he’s probably referring to it having an old engine etc. Dated in some ways, but still a great car and very formidable
@konactopus5418
@konactopus5418 2 жыл бұрын
Dated engine = Very proven engine that works very well
@legoguy5944
@legoguy5944 2 жыл бұрын
@@garethwillmott4234 engine
@phodacbitch
@phodacbitch 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the 2020 sti looks better than this new ugly as fuck subaru
@AngySumo
@AngySumo 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say I used to take my gti off road all the time, it was great fun on gravel. Subaru are definitely the better choice for gravel though, hands down. My R can keep up with them quite well, but that's a different price bracket all together normally.
@markymark3071
@markymark3071 2 жыл бұрын
I agree subaru is good on gravel. I also used to take my 5th gen prelude off road while camping 🏕 😅. I've had it for 17 years and still running strong. Still get compliments ☺ 🙂
@AngySumo
@AngySumo 2 жыл бұрын
@@markymark3071 I'm a big vw nerd now but grew up a total jdm fanboi lol. Still have a huge soft spot in my heart for the prelude though, they're just so cool
@TheMCAids
@TheMCAids 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing you guys forgot to mention when talking about the Golf R and Type R is the base WRX is almost 15k cheaper in Canada with far more tuning potential. Alot of people overlook that the new WRX comes stock with almost 5psi less boost so just putting it to the stock 16 of the 2.0 should have HP and torque well over 300
@malcolmn.5222
@malcolmn.5222 2 жыл бұрын
GTI + Downpipe × tune = MONSTER
@kenankamaric4252
@kenankamaric4252 Жыл бұрын
Lol this car averages 12.7ish psi of boost currently. With basic bolt one stock turbo and increase in PSI these cars put putting almost 400whp and 450awhp trq plus. So these cars are also monsters with simple stuff. Also prime motoring almost has these cars in 11s at 1/4mile. Allot of potential in these cars and it is being over looked because not allot of people are fan of the look
@TeamGun
@TeamGun Жыл бұрын
@@malcolmn.5222 GTI is a shitbox tho
@rinodoog
@rinodoog Жыл бұрын
@@malcolmn.5222gti suck in the snow.
@progpogs
@progpogs 2 ай бұрын
I love this car, including the quirky looks. It feels a lot more mechanical than its peers. Maybe that's because its old, but in this day and age that is ironically an advantage. I just wish it was a hatch.
@NvSrAgE679
@NvSrAgE679 2 жыл бұрын
Throttle House, best car reviews period. Thanks again Gentlemen!
@jacobrzeszewski6527
@jacobrzeszewski6527 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda like the new design. Subaru has always been weird and quirky, and these pointy wheel arches bring back some of that old Subie goodness.
@fullthrottlefpv5616
@fullthrottlefpv5616 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has driven a ‘new’ (evoeye) wrx and owns a blob eye, I can say that the changes are minimal to the driving feel and this feels like a continuation of that… everything about the car is almost the same, the clutch, transmission, and the steering feel are all so similar (steering was the biggest improvement I noticed) but I like that my old turbo hatchback doesn’t feel too dated compared to the new
@evog35viii
@evog35viii 2 жыл бұрын
I miss my old Hawkeye STi. Then again, I miss my old Evo VIII MR even more 😭😭😭
@deanthakid9803
@deanthakid9803 2 жыл бұрын
The most honest car review channel 💯🤘
@marcthegod9990
@marcthegod9990 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say you guys are the coolest car reviewers on yt
@ChR0nos_7734
@ChR0nos_7734 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime I see the back of the car, the black plastic reminds me of Tombstone from Death Race Mustang. Might as well make the whole back bumper unpainted plastic at this point
@tomaszj.9608
@tomaszj.9608 2 жыл бұрын
2012 Honda Civic sedan designer called. He wants the taillights back…
@williamparry6733
@williamparry6733 2 жыл бұрын
100% what I thought first I saw it!
@TEDdotcom
@TEDdotcom 2 жыл бұрын
I think the new WRX will be my new car…but will wait until the GR Corolla arrives.
@mulindejohn
@mulindejohn 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't like suburu drive one in a 3rd country and you will fall in love. That's how I became a fan. I drive a 2006 legacy B5 AWD in uganda and it's magic. Beat most cars off the line and it has an option to peak the turbo. It does everything. I agree way more utility with a Hatchback
@Jonoponomono
@Jonoponomono 2 жыл бұрын
A bit of a downbeat review for you guys. However, I remember when the last gen came out that people responded in the same way and now it is a classic. Congrats to Subaru for giving us the manual.
@MaddNomad1015
@MaddNomad1015 2 жыл бұрын
True, actually that went for every WRX model on release
@JDubbs07
@JDubbs07 2 жыл бұрын
I actually never understood the backlash for the last gen, I always thought it was quite handsome looking. It's also come to be very popular in SoCal - they're EVERYWHERE here in San Diego. I don't expect to see too many of these though...
@brandonmckibben1164
@brandonmckibben1164 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Personally I'd never buy this because of the screen and touch controls for HVAC among other things. Terrible look and the poor steering feel are also huge turn offs. Unfortunate.
@BitcoinTo100K
@BitcoinTo100K 2 жыл бұрын
Get base model gets small screen and paint cladding what I'm doing
@stephantranquille6681
@stephantranquille6681 2 жыл бұрын
Great show guys, makes my day everytime! Aa for this WRX Subaru has lost its way when it comes to design and it shows across their entire range. It's going to cost them, Pity.
@moonman_8935
@moonman_8935 2 жыл бұрын
Owned a 2019 STI & 2021 STI. Now got a 2022 IS500 launch Edition.
@calumsmith2934
@calumsmith2934 9 ай бұрын
Now that Canada has the RS model available for 2024, I’m ready to make the jump on buying one. We need a review or a track test to see how much it has improved.
@sameerpandya1947
@sameerpandya1947 2 жыл бұрын
Hoping the active suspension and other bits come to the WRX at the refresh, shame to lock those behind a CVT. Nice review, hoping the upcoming STI will offer up some nice OEM turbo upgrades for WRX owners now that they share a common engine.
@lightorchestrator
@lightorchestrator 11 ай бұрын
How bad is CVT? Is it really Jerky? Like the gear changes throw you around?
@twystedhumour
@twystedhumour 11 ай бұрын
@@lightorchestrator Motormouth said that the CVT was decent. I still got the manual, though, and it's one of the easiest manuals that I've driven.
@jon-umber
@jon-umber 2 жыл бұрын
I went out and bought a new '21 WRX once I saw how ugly the next gen was. No joke.
@Jay-yg8jj
@Jay-yg8jj 2 жыл бұрын
Sold my '18 WRX and bought a '19 STi before prices went through the roof lmao
@lucian7182
@lucian7182 2 жыл бұрын
Jay I went and sold my 2020 Wrx for a 21 sti limited 6 months ago after seeing the new model.
@ks-bg5uk
@ks-bg5uk 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I'm holding on to my 11 WRX Ltd, this new model looks pretty amazing (minus the rear tail lights). I like the new engine. And I'm sure it will be a beast with a tune and some upgrades.
@pbandjwrx
@pbandjwrx Жыл бұрын
From the world's best rally car to the world's best rental car! The trip reset button is the cherry on top of a rental car cake.
@cocopuffsbird
@cocopuffsbird 2 жыл бұрын
That’s gotta be the coolest intro I’ve ever see in a car review
@Tom-cf1ib
@Tom-cf1ib 2 жыл бұрын
i know it will sound like i'm just scared of change, but wouldn't it look much better if the wing on the back was a bit bigger? I think with the ride height that high it looks weird having the rear taper off so much.
@ocasey5446
@ocasey5446 2 жыл бұрын
They’re probably saving a bigger wing for the sti
@itdobelikedat4202
@itdobelikedat4202 2 жыл бұрын
Hvac on the giant Ipad, plastic cladding and rear end are deal breakers
@stevem1362
@stevem1362 2 жыл бұрын
The cladding on the wheel wells is great for those salty winter roads that turn wheel well chips into rust spots. The cladding on the rear though.... 🤮 As usual Subaru makes very odd changes to a new generation. Still a great car! However I'm looking forward to see how the engine reliability works out. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE NEW STI!!!
@Heres_Perry
@Heres_Perry 2 жыл бұрын
You still ready for the STI?
@stevem1362
@stevem1362 2 жыл бұрын
@@Heres_Perry yeah what a bummer Subaru decided to cancel it! Sounds like they're developing a hybrid STi, maybe... who knows. Doesn't bother me too much as I have my Focus RS still but a new STi would of been welcomed no doubt.
@mikeh.9954
@mikeh.9954 8 ай бұрын
The clading has grown on my over the last 2 years.
@chriswaldrup9855
@chriswaldrup9855 2 жыл бұрын
They say legends never die. Yes, yes they most certainly do.
@ymp6345
@ymp6345 Жыл бұрын
It literally has 9th gen Civic tail lights, is no one else going to mention that
@Kyle-ty6mx
@Kyle-ty6mx 2 жыл бұрын
I Personally don't mind the styling of the new WRX, I actually really want one!
@scottwilbur7400
@scottwilbur7400 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of like it actually.
@erikn.7540
@erikn.7540 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of weird decisions that Subaru makes, why can't we get the 2.5 in the regular Impreza?
@RDRS_Phoenix
@RDRS_Phoenix 2 жыл бұрын
Weight. The Impreza is already light enough, so it doesn’t need the extra power. The Crosstrek is heavier, so it needs that extra power from the 2.5. Speaking as an owner of the first generation Crosstrek, this was an issue that needed to be addressed, which I’m glad they did eventually.
@erikn.7540
@erikn.7540 2 жыл бұрын
​@@RDRS_Phoenix Are you sure? According to Edmunds, the Crosstrek with a the 2L engine only weighs 84 pounds more than a Impreza hatchback in Premium trim.
@RDRS_Phoenix
@RDRS_Phoenix 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikn.7540 other crossovers in the same segment as the Crosstrek have significantly more power. The previous Crosstrek models were way too underpowered compared to its competitors. Bringing in the 2.5L engine was Subaru’s way of remedying that problem after a lot of owners, including myself, complained.
@eskimocheeks9911
@eskimocheeks9911 Жыл бұрын
Seems like the WRX is starting to get some love after it's hatred of it's release. I think what owners of this vehicle who were willing to take a chance on it will come to find is that it's an excellent daily driver with no rival. I would love a hatch back version of this vehicle, and for whatever reason car companies can't seem to figure out that enthusiast drivers like feedback with their steering.
@AG-un7dz
@AG-un7dz Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what you said, but we should be happy that they still make the WRX. Car manufacturers are chomping at the bit to rid themselves of manual transmissions in the near term and do the same with gasoline engines in the medium to long term. I know there are still many that would buy a WRX that met your criteria but I believe Subaru is trying to simplify their supply chain and a niche offering isn't in the cards. Fossil fuel vehicles are far from dead, but in this segment they certainly are on borrowed time. Like it or not.
@pizza2437
@pizza2437 2 жыл бұрын
Already used to the way it looks. Dare I say I like it more than the old one.
@Fifthcell
@Fifthcell 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, people are talkin crap about it now just as they did when the new BRZ/GT86 was revealed, but the opinions on that car have changed dramatically, and I suspect that will be true with this car very soon
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