Thrust Vectored Awesomeness - FMS Avanti 90mm EDF Jet Review

[@TwoBrosRC]

Want to know what's involved in the normal setup, unboxing, and build process? Check out Brian Phillips: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6rRpH2OhLdogM0 See Brian's take on Avanti without TV: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKOcl6dop7OpZ9E

[@weewoomanv2116]

the guy at my field said my gains on my plane are too low and have to program them up how do u do that

[@weewoomanv2116]

poop i just saw the 19th minute

[@CameronDasso]

You shouldn’t recommend Brian for the setup on this one. He does a great job most of the time but in this one he tried to demonstrate upgrading to AS3X+ and really did a bad job of it. Just sayin.

[@TwoBrosRC]

@@CameronDasso Brian is a friend of the channel and we'll recommend him because he's an invaluable resource to the hobby. We haven't had a chance to see his AS3X+ vid yet, but if you want a deep dive into it, you can check out what we posted recently: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7ViJl6n86Vi5I

[@CameronDasso]

Ok. Great video.

[@mattsrcking]

After uploading your file to my IX14 for the Avanti I had to Donate!!! Really impressed with all the info you provide for the community! FYI I couldn't get my avanti to fly as good with my Powerbox Core!!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thanks so much dude, really happy to help however we can!

[@Mach3RC]

Jaw-dropping flying. I love flying this in a circle then coming to Twobros to see what this jet is ACTUALLY capable of 😅 Great job as always.

[@TwoBrosRC]

You'll get there dude! Jon was in your boat in late 2020. At the rate you're progressing, you'll be doing this kind of stuff soon too. Always think positive. If Jon's dumb ass can do this, you definitely can!

[@SuperiorRadioControl]

​@@TwoBrosRCI just started flying in April and thanks to you I now own 15+ planes😂 but I've progressed from not being able to fly without safe to now doing high alpha with planes that aren't supposed to (futura). Anyways just wanted to say thank you for saying that because I wouldn't have believed I could do it.

[@TwoBrosRC]

@@SuperiorRadioControl You gotta believe in yourself. After all, Two Brothers believes in you!

[@thomasedwards629]

So you've basically created a new genre of EDF flying. Pretty amazing.

[@djjay9974]

Thanks!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thank YOU dude!

[@djjay9974]

Thanks for all your help! Drjay

[@erikshute7153]

Nice flyin Jon! And awesome camera work! Love the close up shots in the air

[@TwoBrosRC]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@SafetyThirdRC]

One of your best videos ever. The performance you can ring out of foam EDF is sick. AX3X+ looks super locked in. Cheers

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thanks dude, happy to hear you enjoyed it! Let your buddies know about it too so they can see how much fun this jet can be!

[@nirlachman007]

As always, your flying and videos are very unique and special. Nobody flies this Avanti like this and it’s awesome! Thanks for sharing buddy

[@TwoBrosRC]

Always look forward to seeing what you think, Nir. Cheers m8

[@nirlachman007]

@@TwoBrosRC my pleasure 😇

[@BrianTurner-ub2tu]

Double back-flip! Holy crap! Then a triple back-flips! wow Thrust vectoring is amazing with a as3x+

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's not even the same jet with vectoring. It looks similar, but it's so much better in every way that matters. FMS crushed this release.

[@grampskraka6976]

Absolutely great video Jon!

[@n411xbushpilot]

Incredible video TBRC I have been in Aviation my entire Life I am so thankfull for your information and very complete evaluation of this EDF I build a Bob Violet Electra all though Paint and it was very difficult in the Paint booth in my Hanger here in Alaska I sold it and shiped it off to Texas I also purchased BVM Arf Electra 10 cell Operation it was a real hand full if there had been As3x it would have been appreciated for sure, I have been out of RC for 10 years and am itching to get back into the hobby Flying has been my Life and rc is even better you stand on the ground and see really high G maneuvers and not pass out 45 years ago I started fly Aerobatics and realized I was not going to live a long life if I keep doing flat spins inverted can you feel the pain all the way to the Ground I had many friends that are gone. I am so thank full for your knowledge thanks again TwoBrosRC.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thanks for your thoughts buddy! Appreciate hearing all of these stories.

[@n411xbushpilot]

@@TwoBrosRC no problem wise i could find that model for sale and find someone to help ship it to Alaska

[@8da11en]

Appreciate the demo of flying with and without gyro / vectoring and neutral cg

[@TwoBrosRC]

Happy to help! Don't forget there's comparisons between 6 and 8 cells too. ;)

[@ThomasColeman]

KEEP MAKING ME BUY STUFF - LOL - my living room is full of jets since watching your channel LOVE IT KEEP IT UP!!!!!!! from london UK

[@TwoBrosRC]

Haha, happy to help there Thomas! Our affiliate links probably don't work in the UK, but if you ever feel the need to hit that Super Thanks button, we'd absolutely appreciate it!

[@ThomasColeman]

@@TwoBrosRC super thanks done! - keep it up love watching your videos!

[@redwineisfine]

Absolutely sick flying jon.. Great video

[@FarmerFpv]

That was crazy! Your skill level in such a short amount of time has skyrocketed. In a short amount of time, you have become as good as most Demo team pilots. Thrust vectoring is awesome. I have the Sky Flight Hobby Super Mig 29 twin 70mm 360 thrust vectoring EDF Jet. It does some wild stuff when you put the nozzles in opposite directions. If you love single nozzle vectoring you will love duel nozzle thrust vectoring.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thanks man, really appreciate the kind words!

[@lordjoechu]

Think I am sold. Finally a sport jet that has all the benefits of a sport jet and some of the fun stuff from the military jets….

[@TwoBrosRC]

If you can pick it up via the links in the description, that would be a huge help to us! Hope you enjoy, and don't be afraid to ask for help with setup on Discord!

[@n3cr0sc0pe]

You've absolutely nailed this review. I wasn't impressed with the standard 6S performance against the 90mm Viper. I then added the TV unit, and it was too much for me. I planned to try the 8S setup, but ive now sold it, as its not how i want to fly. Great awesome and accurate review.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thanks dude! It's definitely a tossup between the 6 and 8 cell system. The 6 cell setup is great, but the 8 cell setup is heavier - with more thrust, yet only minimal handling differences between them. Hardly like the Viper 90 which felt sluggish on 8 cells due to all the weight it was carrying.

[@n3cr0sc0pe]

@TwoBrosRC My Viper currently has the 8S fan that was meant for the Avanti. I will be putting the Viper back to 6S though, as I prefer the lighter setup in her.

[@RubyS.1]

Your camera person's commentary is the best.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Liz? She's great, thank you!

[@Hangar14RC]

That AOA is insane! Crazy to see that out of a sport jet

[@rcplanesandfriends3067]

Another great one! Thank you for the excellent content John!

[@pieceofchevy9123]

"But does it hover?" - " I dear say it do!!!" Hell yeah!

[@pieceofchevy9123]

I'm thinking about getting one of these, It will be my first jet. I don't have much experience with planes, just sim time. But I do pilot 3d helicopters. Any recommendations would be helpful?

[@HarperCushing]

@@pieceofchevy9123 NOOOOO DO NOT

[@pieceofchevy9123]

You think it's too much? Better choice? Freewing avanti v2?

[@SmokeyMountainRcTravisThompson]

Sweet flying bud. Thrust vectoring is the way to go looks like. Very impressed with the capability of that jet.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Better snag a TV unit before they sell out!

[@SmokeyMountainRcTravisThompson]

@TwoBrosRC rite lol. I can't afford that one at the moment. I just ordered the new Freewing 8s 90mm F16. Definitely going to get it in the future.

[@عمرعمر-ه7ح]

23:45 really I like the playing❤❤❤❤❤ wow it’s very nice

[@rayh5804]

Awesome John thank you very much fantastic flying Bro!

[@williamlane6374]

Yup I have one with thrust vectoring and a 8s motor for it, can't wait to try it out

[@TwoBrosRC]

Definitely consider AS3X+ on a 10 channel receiver for it!

[@williamlane6374]

@@TwoBrosRC yup AR10360T is the receiver already in it

[@shaggygoat]

The sound the ducted fan makes is awesome and seems to me more like the sound of a real jet’s engine than that produced by a jet engine built to this model’s scale.

[@alanshearing7515]

Awesome 🤩, the future is here . Thanks for showing us ❤

[@johnberrios4255]

I was on the fence because I was like, meh, another avanti, so i was waiting for a two brothers video of course, but I was curious about the thrust vectoring. I am going to get the 8 cell motor also. Awesome video and presentation as always Jon.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thanks for the support, John! It means a lot. Every purchase from our links keeps this channel running and makes it possible for us to do things like this. Cheers!

[@ThomasColeman]

Thanks

[@TwoBrosRC]

No, thank YOU! Be sure you hop on Discord and grab the IX/NX files for this jet to save yourself some time!

[@ThomasColeman]

What’s your discord link ? 😮

[@TwoBrosRC]

@@ThomasColeman It's in the description, but also here: bit.ly/TBRCDiscord - you'll find the radio setups in #spektrum-radio-setups!

[@3DMOFO2020]

2:44 Jon you really have to try that again but lower to the ground please??😁😁 2:50 I believe in you Jon👍😎👍

[@renaldolama9517]

Gyros are more necessary than people will admit. Can’t wait for your 90mm F-16 review. Let me guess how it starts off. Freewing finally got it right on their 5th iteration….

[@TwoBrosRC]

You'll see it soon! It's unfortunately incredibly heavy for what it is, but it should fly... well enough. We're still getting ours set up.

[@renaldolama9517]

@@TwoBrosRCAfter two crashes, I've made several mods to my V3 which I deemed necessary for it's long term survival and to give it proper flight characteristics. She is considerably heavier than stock. I have a feeling that this V2 90MM has to be flown 8S and with light packs. I will get one as soon as I finish sucking the life out of my V3 70mm.

[@RC4ever]

At long last... a proper vectored sport jet! Good on FMS for finally delivering! Too bad Freewing are dragging their feet on this.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Right? Like how did FMS beat them to the punch here?

[@RC4ever]

@@TwoBrosRC quite!

[@bleudie173]

These videos are absolutely AWESOME!!!!!!!

[@TwoBrosRC]

You rock! Thanks dude!

[@INCABRC]

I’m new to your channel. Actually found you searching for AS3X set up and advanced forward programming. Wow you cover a ton of technical info and I love it ❤. I have several thrust vectored jets including a non vectored FW Avanti. The FMS with TV is my next purchase. Thanks for making a great channel 😊

[@TwoBrosRC]

Welcome aboard, and thank you! We try to be impartial and avoid biases as much as possible. Sticking to showing what a plane is truly capable of while going over a 25 point system designed to tell you specifically what it does and does not have (per class of aircraft of course) should be a fair way to judge these things.

[@arturoespinosa8985]

Great plane and great pilot, thanks for your video...

[@randomlymadeanimations52]

16:19 well good thing I got that info cause I didn’t catch it the first 5 tiene I watched this vid- gonna get to that soon.

[@mikeylikesrc]

Wow - crazy flying! Thanks for sharing (as always)! -mikey

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thanks for watching!

[@zestyorc6506]

Time for the legendary 7S battery!

[@FloridaE-bikeAdventures]

Great video as always. I wish you guys would believe a lot of us like to fly our jets fast and we'd love to see more fast flying/passes, speed tests etc. We don't all just fly high alpha and flipping all the time.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Hey man, thanks for the feedback! Apologies if this next bit comes out curt or disrespectful - it isn't intended to and we hope you don't take it that way: That's the nice thing about KZbin - there's other channels which focus on other things and have priorities that are different than us. Our priority has never been "speed tests" because we don't care about ground speed on an airplane. We focus on a few things: A) A 25 point review system that covers exactly what you can expect to get from a plane you purchase, regardless of whether you use our affiliate links or buy it after considering it from someone else's content. B) How agile the airframe is at all speeds, primarily the low speeds. We focus on this because airplanes go fast by nature, and if it can't fly in a circle or hit at least 50 MPH, it's not much of an airplane.

[@FloridaE-bikeAdventures]

@@TwoBrosRC no offense taken. Just thought I'd make a friendly suggestion, I see that's not welcome by you guys.

[@TwoBrosRC]

That's absolutely not what we intended, but hey, can't win 'em all. Sorry you feel that way!

[@MrMLT67]

I found goo gone to be the best for cleaning the thick grease in the landing gear.

[@MiguelFAlvarez]

Thrust vectoring is the way!

[@lewiemotorsports3616]

Bro unintentionally did the frecce tricolori wild stallion manuever when he turned the gyro off 😅

[@Sheedy1979]

I wanna see what you can do with the Freewing Avanti S V2. Love that jet

[@tthulsey]

Yes high Alpha is sick 😝🤩

[@MasJets]

Wow, you nailed it 👍👍

[@rc-fannl7364]

3:40 Is that some wing wiggle when stopping after a roll? Apart from that it flies amazing, great demo

[@TwoBrosRC]

The gyro was slightly *over*-tuned. The settings we flew were 60 roll, but recommended 50 roll for you guys to help smooth it out a little more and avoid that bounceback. Good eye!

[@rc-fannl7364]

@@TwoBrosRC It had to be something like that, or a structural issue, but seeing how the jet held up in those thrust vectoring moves, something being loose/floppy seemed highly unlikely. Good to see the correction to the settings has already been applied in the gyro setup overview.

[@rodeopilot7495]

great flying and review , I just clicked on you link to buy the avanti and the 8s motor but typical fms out of stock on the motors, come on fms

[@TwoBrosRC]

Hopefully you snagged the Avanti for now - it's still capable on 6 cells, and you can always upgrade later!

[@turboed00SI]

Good job jon!

[@OlliHeli]

Hi Jon, great flight performance 🙂. I just have a question regardung the TV installation. You use 2 seperate channel (fElev and Rud) for the Thrust Vector unit with corresponding gyro functionality? Thanks for your answer in advance Oliver

[@TwoBrosRC]

Yep. For more info, hop on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord

[@feelgooddany]

Woohooooo OMG !! Woaww FF-beeb-king Great!!! 😂😎🤠 I need this .. and waiting for my FW F16 haha GreetZ DannyMetall

[@TheRyaninspokane]

I'm thinking about getting this as my 3rd jet. Umx, trainer Habu. I've got it bad for this jet. I'm going to ask the wife for this one at for Christmas.

[@bertpanis8649]

Really nice, falling in love with this jet when seeing this video! This is what I want to do with a jet too :-): Question: I'm flying with a Futaba T14SG, will it be possible to fly this plane with TV as well, or is a Spectrum needed any way for being able to do all this (TV, 2° Gyro etc)? Thanks on advance, keep up doing this 🙂

[@TwoBrosRC]

Spektrum isn't needed, it's just easier with a single receiver that contains a very configurable high end gyro.

[@bertpanis8649]

Thx. Other question, and this is really the only disadvantage that keeps me away from buyng this plane: how good are the landing gears , is this a good plane for landing on grass fields as well? I read a lot that FMS landing gear systems are not the best, and are damaged quite fast?

[@TwoBrosRC]

The gear should be covered in the vid, but basically it won't have any issues on grass if you clean out the "grease" junking up the struts.

[@adambednarik9737]

Great review John, you just made deciding on my next jet all the more complicated. Which do you like more, the FW F-22 (90mm) or this FMS Avanti with TV? Thx

[@TwoBrosRC]

We love 'em both for different reasons. The F-22 is... an F-22. You can't really beat it. Avanti does things it can't do, though. If the F-22 had a TV unit like it should, it would be a much closer comparison.

[@cyliptus332]

Thanks for making me broke Jon 😂

[@JN24185]

Whoah. Hold on a second Jon. I have an NX6. Are you telling me there’s an update that allows my 6 channel Spektrum transmitter to act as a 14 channel radio?!?!?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Yup. Google it and you'll see

[@fabneo69]

Hi Jon, I bought this amazing jet trust vector version two weeks ago. i tested it this weekend and i have to say that it is really nice to fly with this jet. I was not able to do the high alpha flight that you show in the video. can you give me some advice? Iuse a 3 axis gyro. with which setup do you fly? thanks fabio

[@TwoBrosRC]

Use the gyro settings mentioned in the video, and join Discord via discord.gg/twobrosrc and check the #spektrum-radio-setups channel for the setup file. This jet'll do it when it's set up like ours is.

[@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib]

It would be cool to review the FRsky radio. X20 RS or Pro. I heard they are awesome Radios packed with options and insane range, and with IRX4 Lite module works great with Spektrum and Futaba and 100 others !!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Unfortunately FrSky isn't something we have any plans to cover. Sorry!

[@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib]

@@TwoBrosRC thanks Bro. Thank you for your amazing content 👌

[@johnSunde-or4sb]

Hey Jon, love your channel & videos. I’m trying to learn & understand more about the high voltage batteries you use and the corresponding voltage alerts with those higher voltage batteries-namely how do you set that up to include the esc low voltage cutoff? I can’t seem to find a video or thread on your discord that addresses this specifically. Also, I know you specifically mentioned using the AR10360t receiver that has telemetry yet in your video you mention using a timer only & not using the telemetry-I don’t understand that? I’m clearly not as knowledgeable as you and many others in this area but I’m trying to understand. Thanks in advance🙏🏼

[@TwoBrosRC]

Looks like you got your question answered on Discord.

[@johnSunde-or4sb]

Yes, after I posted this I thought maybe I should’ve started on discord so that got a quick response. Thanks

[@PaulThomas-s1d]

Good afternoon I’ve been following you now for a few months and I find everything that you say very interesting and very helpful Would it be possible for you to use other gyros Kind regards, Paul

[@TwoBrosRC]

Hi Paul, unfortunately not. We stick to the Spektrum ecosystem. It's not affordable for us to buy other tools given we're paying for receivers out of pocket.

[@PaulThomas-s1d]

@ Hi thank you very much for your reply. I totally understand and respect what you’re saying. Kind regards, Paul

[@andretaskmaster4101]

Love the content

[@AllanG1914]

Thrust vectoring will require an extra 2 channels on the receiver? Basically, a 10 channel to include thrust reverse? Asking because I've never had a TV model before.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Yes, hence why we're recommending the AR10360T - plus the multi-gyro setup on that particular receiver. Links are all in the description, but definitely hop on Discord and ask for help. We'll gladly guide you through it.

[@Rmaia3d]

As noob to using gyros in planes, I have to ask… 😅😅 Are you using normal “rate mode” when the gyro is enabled or some “level lock” mode? (kind of how the heading lock mode in heli gyros work, but for each of the 3 flight axes, roll, pitch and yaw)

[@TwoBrosRC]

All the gyro modes in our jets are just rate gyros, no heading holds.

[@Rmaia3d]

@@TwoBrosRC Thanks a lot!! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@Mroswaldo16]

Well any jet can do tricks with thrust vector & has the thrust to climb. Question, why do the CG upside down? If jet flies normal most of the time? Been doing my cg normal & landing gear up.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Not every jet comes with TV as an option. The reason we're checking the CG inverted is because it feels more stable.

[@M4rkmcc21]

Jon im used to having a flight mode with adjustable gains on the Rknob. Im going to try the throttle based gains you use. Have you got a set up where you can still have a flight mode where you can still adjust gain on the fly by the Rknob? Ps where is your 2nd gyro installed? Thanks

[@TwoBrosRC]

Assign an open channel to the knob, then assign that channel in Forward Programming for the gain. For more info, join up on Discord and ask for help in the #tech-and-setup channel via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord

[@M4rkmcc21]

Oh I know how to use Rknob for adjustable gains. It's how I set up all my planes on FM3. Just wondering if you had a FM like I do but also a FM with throttle based gains too?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Flight modes in the receiver don't recognize mixes, the mix is always active for our setup.

[@randomlymadeanimations52]

I’m sure the answer is yes, but does the thrust vector have an activate and do activate switch? In case i want to fly without using it half the flight and then activate on the other half? Or is the thrust vector always on while flying and can’t be turned off?

[@TwoBrosRC]

The setup we posted on Discord has a switch controlling the TV system.

[@its_generik]

Why do none of the "old school" fixed wing flyers use ELRS? I came from quadcopters and its been a dream to use with fixed wing.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Not interested in it, that's why.

[@its_generik]

@TwoBrosRC relax John I wasn't attacking you, just a question. Just noticed that people getting into RC in the last couple years Go towards ELRS instead of spektrum.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Didn't take it as an attack, just answering your question lol

[@its_generik]

@TwoBrosRC you're right, I'm truly someone who can't understand tone. It's good we have choices. Insane flying, I can't even fathom making a jet do that.

[@Rcenthusiast90]

How did you set up your radio setting with the mixes for the thrust vectoring. Thank you.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Info is on Discord

[@TwoBrosRC]

If you figure it out, you'll be able to grab the setup file. Discord shouldn't be hard to set up.

[@Munchymonke]

Wowie

[@M4rkmcc21]

My 8s was just too heavy with TV. The lipos needed to CG is jusy too much. More weight than thrust and a heavy character. Im settled on 7s on the stock edf and means I can use any 6s that I may have left over whilst at the field. Such a shame more manufacturers dont bring out a TV option on their jets.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Can't say we experienced it being too heavy. It flew great on TV with 8 and 6 cells. The difference was only perceptible in post-stall maneuvering, and only then during flat spins or other tumble maneuvers.

[@M4rkmcc21]

​@TwoBrosRC I'm suprised you didn't notice the extra weight as you are the guy who loves lightness and agility. The 8s fans extra 220g and extra 250g bump from 6s to 8s just wasn't welcome for me on this jet.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Just didn't feel it this time. It was quite odd. Something about the design of this jet makes it less noticeable. Probably the TV system - because without it the jet would most likely lumber around on 8 cells.

[@ray1969pr]

Hi Jon - any chance you could upload .SPM for the DX18 radios. Or do you know how to convert from Ispm or Nspm to .spm thanks

[@TwoBrosRC]

Unfortunately not, the DX radios aren't compatible with NX or IX setups.

[@cwwisk]

I might actually be interested in a horizon plane for the first time since the scorpion was in my radar 3 or 4 years ago.

[@TwoBrosRC]

This is FMS, though - kinda confused by where Horizon factors into this lol

[@cwwisk]

@@TwoBrosRC horizon contractually made it easy for themselves to be the "mainstream vendor" for FMS via large quantity shipments a few years back. They order large quantities of FMS products in order to retail them close to factory-direct pricing. Also FMS manufactures E-Flite planes as part of that agreement, I believe, which is a Horizon brand. While Horizon may or may not sell this model at this time, I definitely started associating FMS with Horizon about 3 years ago.

[@DesertFoxProductions]

@@TwoBrosRC, Hello Jon, first thanks for the proper credit in your video. The Horizon factor is FMS is a proprietary brand of Horizon Hobby. Jason Merkle of Horizon Hobby has made statements to this in RC Groups posts. Here is a link to Wikipedia showing their proprietary brands. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon_Hobby

[@TwoBrosRC]

@@DesertFoxProductions Sorry about not asking ya first, but hopefully the shout-out can get some of our audience to check out your great content! HH did come out and clarify that FMS is not a brand they own though, just to clear that up.

[@dalewalton4897]

Quick question, is the foam the same density as the FMS Integral?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Pretty much. All the 80 and 90mm FMS jets are similar in that regard.

[@dalewalton4897]

@@TwoBrosRC Thanks. The integral really has me taking a hard look at other FMS EDF’s for this exact reason.

[@kchong9035]

Hello, if I upgrade to 8S ,do I need to upgrade the ESC or just the EDF motor? How is the Avanti 3D performance compared to freewing gripen 80mm?

[@TwoBrosRC]

The ESC is rated for 8 cells. All you need is the motor linked in the description. The Avanti outperforms Gripen because it was designed as a sport jet.

[@EDF_FANatic]

I wonder if the thrust vectoring can be used on the viper 90?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Unfortunately not without serious mods. You'd be better off using a third party TV nozzle.

[@sundayfloater2926]

Do you mix down elevator to flap for landing?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Nope.

[@davidgerlach1132]

Bottom line, is it a better flyer than the mighty VIPER 90MM? Already have the Freewing Avanti S V2 80mm 2150kV -- in the right hands kicks butt.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Yes, but only with thrust vectoring. And we say this as a channel whose logo is the Viper 90 flying a high alpha pass. If the Viper had TV, we'd see a real battle of aerobatic prowess.

[@koezzy1]

Weird, I just posted a reaction and small donation but don't see it?

[@TwoBrosRC]

That's strange, definitely didn't come through on our side. Consider trying again maybe? Thank you!

[@ToddRichmond]

+3 points for using "asunder" in a sentence in 2024...

[@shane__L39]

Now hover it. I've hovered the old 90mm Eurofighter.

[@shane__L39]

Will the Grippen hover?

[@TwoBrosRC]

2:37 and yes Gripen hovers, it's covered here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWeci3d7hq-nlbs

[@yichuyeah2898]

Abnormal and unusual operation.

[@TwoBrosRC]

That's why it's fun!

[@feelgooddany]

Woww as3x+ 80 on pitch gain 🤪 serious?!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Yeah. Why?

[@feelgooddany]

​@TwoBrosRC I don't now how to tune the pitch gain, I'm afraid to put it higher as default 😂

[@everettecarpenter6606]

Lower…

[@TwoBrosRC]

🪧

[@jmscott31]

Thrust vectoring does nothing for me.

[@TwoBrosRC]

🆗

[@DannyPellini]

Hi Jon, can you do a E-Flight Viper 90 mm comparison to the Avanti 90 mm which plane flies better and longer flight times.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Nope. We don't own the 90 Viper anymore - and it would be a bit disingenuous to reuse old footage to make a new video.

[@Rcenthusiast90]

@@TwoBrosRCwhy dont you own the viper sir

[@charlesrestivo870]

Thanks!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thank you dude!

[@MasJets]

Thanks

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thank you! 🧡

[@Studio_RSR]

Thanks!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thank you dude!

[@RossCarson-w8t]

Thanks!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thank you, dude!