Thrustmaster T598 Review - No Revolution.. yet?

[@OverTake_gg]

Since we uploaded the video, Thrustmaster has released a firmware update for the T598 (the one mentioned in the quote in the video) that fixes some of the oscillation, especially in the menus and apparently tweaks the Gran Turismo 7 feeling a bit. -Michel

[@smokesgtp]

This firmware was released in the U.S last week, just FYI.

[@Lava-Puperze]

Can confirm that. The update had a positive impact on ffb and handling in GT7. Let's hope that soon there will be a dedicated update in GT7, so that the wheel will be recognized as a true direct drive and not as a tgt.

[@tecnocris]

I bought this and i'm quite happy with it. I'm using it with iracing as i'm not a console player. No complaints at all except for one, the mounting screws wiggled loose after a few days of use and left a few metal shavings on the desk it was clamped to. There's already been two firmware updates since I bought it, so i'm confident its only going to get better. I want to add, in iracing using the auto calibrate button it actually ends up setting the peak to 15nm. Using that option, I have not once seen it clip. I'm still a noob to iracing though so it's possible i'm not using their settings correctly, but it feels very powerful.

[@FullSendStudioProductions]

have you tried in any other games, if so how does it feel in them? I am pretty intrested in the t598 even though I am not going to be getting one as it would be downgrade for me but I just find it intresting

[@tecnocris]

@ AC, iRacing, and dirt 2. Dirt 2 actually feels better than the other two.

[@FullSendStudioProductions]

@@tecnocris kinda weird for dirt to feel noticably nicer. Do you come from some other wheel or is this your first wheel?

[@tecnocris]

@ only other wheel I’ve ever used was a friends fanatec csl dd.

[@FullSendStudioProductions]

@@tecnocris how does it compare to that?

[@phenic5761]

4:00 From a technical perspective we ARE still talking about DD (although this is not how Thrustmaster have marketed it) as it is still directly driven(no gears or belts). If you would like to split it by motor type it is DAD rather than DRD.

[@stevewilden5769]

Best review and comparison I have seen yet. 👍

[@Rude_dxD]

(GT7 VR racer) I love my T598 i started sim racing on tgt2 and I stay with TM in case that I have tlcm pedals and 2x rims EVO and SF1000( using QR adapter) and cockpit from next level. T598 get me back to be competitive and faster normally I was on TGT2 3sec on faster time on actual track in sport mode, on T598 Iam 1.4sec on faster time on actual track. I have T598 from 28.11.2024 but from start I did update of firmware to newest ,setup I used which shows on support TM pages and T598 feels great So for me it is new ERA 😊

[@OverTake_gg]

Thank you for sharing your experience, that sounds good overall 👍🏻 -Michel

[@ikosmargaritis9749]

1:41 G923 is gear driven NOT belt driven

[@ParlierEddy]

You should update the base with the new firmware V2.07 available since last week (now definitively better in GT7 with the new slider INERTIA 👍)

[@randypittman4994]

What does the inertia do?

[@ParlierEddy]

@@randypittman4994 Release notes said: This new slider lets you adjust the wheel rim's inertia. There are four settings to choose from, ranging from no inertia to high inertia (OFF, LOW, MID, HIGH), allowing for more or less steering control depending on the game you are playing and the vehicle you are using. This motor setting increases the wheel rim's inertia proportionally to the vehicle's speed. The faster the vehicle goes, the more the inertia increases. High inertia increases the force required to turn the wheel rim (the wheel rim then slows down), thereby limiting oscillations in a straight line when using very powerful vehicles.

[@PanzerMagnet]

I have one and play Gt7 in vr, I am very happy with it, vey smooth, lots of detail and plenty of force for me.

[@OverTake_gg]

That good to hear, did you already update to the newest firmware or are you running the launch version? -Michel

[@PanzerMagnet]

@ yes I have updated to 2.07 which I believe is still the latest version.

[@PanzerMagnet]

These are my current settings Gt7 settings: Force Feedback Max Torgue 4 Force Feedback Sensitivity 10 T598 settings are: FFB 3 Master 100% Mode E Inertia High Friction Low Boost Low +1 Boost High +1 Speed Ext Damper 0% Spring 0% Gear Jolt Low End Stop High Try them if you wish, they are a work in progress.🤪 I think I have decided on these for now These are my current settings Gt7 settings: Force Feedback Max Torgue 3 Force Feedback Sensitivity 9 T598 settings are: FFB 2 Master 100% Mode P Inertia High Friction Low Boost Low +2 Boost High +2 Speed Ext Damper 0% Spring 0% Gear Jolt Low End Stop High These feel pretty good to me now, I’ll let you know. They are a work in progress.🤪

[@OverTake_gg]

Will try them 👍🏻 Thanks for sharing! -Michel

[@Lava-Puperze]

Pretty close to my settings. I have Inertia on mid and friction off. End stop mid. And I learned to don't change the spring setting. It is submitted by the game I don't know what the parameters are but I have seen amounts from 5 - 15%. It's at 5% at the moment. Otherwise it's the same settings. Ingame Settings are vibration 75, Steering Sensitivity 6 Torque 3 and Feedback Sensitivity 1.

[@hey_polok]

It’s incredible so far. I always held off on buying a wheel cause something worth getting always seemed out of reach. For the price with console and pc support it’s amazing. GT7 support could be better but I’ve still been having fun with it. Super responsive in ACC on PC.

[@boltfiend]

I've had mine for about a week now and zero complaints. I love this unit! Immediately updated the firmware and everything works smoothly. Needed a wheel setup for my PS5 and GT7 as I use my TSXW for Xbox and this T598 setup is a much better experience at a more affordable cost. I did not use the included pedal set as I already have the TLCM pedals, TH8A shifter, and TSS Handbrake for my TSXW connected to the simhub and everything swapped right over. My only small complaint is how much plastic is used in the wheel it comes with. I've since purchased the Thrustmaster Hypercar and Evo32 wheels and waiting to try those out.

[@OverTake_gg]

Sounds great - how would you compare it to the TS-XW? Would be worth upgrading from it? :) -Michel

[@Isa-t6v3v]

Do I use red mode or blue mode I’m only on ps5

[@boltfiend]

@Isa-t6v3v Thrustmaster has a link on their website under T598 support that tells you which mode you should use for specific games. Click on the "Game Settings" option and there is a PS5 and PS4 games list. GT7 for PS5 is Blue mode. Hope that helps.

[@boltfiend]

@OverTake_gg It's a significant upgrade in my opinion from the TS-XW and I would definitely recommend it. The smoothness of the DD in comparison to the belt drive while simply rotating the wheel while not in game or in game is night and day. The in depth onboard settings options of the T598 is a game changer as well. I also had alot of issues with the TS-XW losing FFB at random times during races and the only option was to restart the game or wheel. Frustrating to say the least.

[@yampieltoledogarcia1312]

question I have a sparco racing wheel from my t300 , Would this wheel rim need an updated also like ferrari one you showed? I Still gotta get that QR For It Tho

[@NosPeter]

I always have connection problems. While I am playing, the T598 loses the connection to the PlayStation. The latest update is installed..do you know This Problem?

[@yampieltoledogarcia1312]

Hello Great Review ' I Have Lasted Update 2.07 , I Still Got Oscillation in the menu and a high speed over 200 and get very bad!!! I have all the latest updates on Settings and the wheel still does the same thing overall, the wheels great just the oscillation in the menu is what kills it for me!!

[@evonick]

Nice video many thanks. I’m still on the fence as a mature sim racer who hasn’t really felt the need to go direct drive yet. I’ve been using belt driven wheels for years and still rocking a T300RS as my everyday setup. My biggest concern is even at 500 notes I would really prefer less plastic as this really puts me off as it looks cheap and even my T300RS feels dare I say more toy like. I’m not knocking thrustmaster as I’ve had many of there products and had excellent reliability over the many years. As you mention for PlayStation users (like myself) there isn’t a great deal of options with direct drive and we definitely need more players like Moza and Cammus for healthy competition and more options.

[@OverTake_gg]

From my experience the feel of a massive difference and step up from something like a T300 or TS-XW starts with 10+ Nm wheels like the Logitech G Pro or Moza R12 👍🏻 Its really worth saving up some extra money. -Michel

[@untrainedprofessionals2374]

You might want to look at Sim Racing Corner's initial impression of it. He was very blunt with his thoughts, It is not a cheap DD.

[@MrJaz8088]

Not since the T500 have we seen a 30cm wheel, its either 28cm or 32/33cm on every single wheel and aftermarket ones 30cm aka 12" is perfect all rounder

[@garybalaban6129]

I am loving mine.

[@CKracer86]

This should be a review based on console performance, it’s obvious that on the Pc market there’s way better options at the same price. I find hard to believe that not single reviewer on KZbin has tested T598 with Assetto Corsa OG not ACC. The first AC has amazing FFB and detail with every single car. I played AC all the time with the TGT II and it’s crazy good. It’s a $25 game for PS4/PS5! So cheap and so good. ACC in the other hand is junk compared to their previous game like I mentioning. The FFB and detail is horrible and not properly set for console base wheels I’m assuming. Why there’s no one trying F1 24/23 whichever your favorite is in the T598?. I feel like there’s much more opportunity to test this base out not only with two games. Like GT 7 or ACC both on console and PC. Reviewing T598 on PC is just useless, the whole point for this base is to market console players. PC users have way more options available. Cheers

[@tecnocris]

I'm not an assetto corsa fan, but I tested it out and found the FFB to be fine on that game. No worse or better than iracing.

[@JtotheM]

@CKracer86 i got the t598 for its compatibility w/gt7. Otherwise only on pc. This wheel is much better using it on pc than console actually. Its very good in gt7 but what I've been surprised at is how good it is in motorfest on pc. But works w/any other racing game ive played on pc as well. Its well supported now, while will be even better in future. It also has 10nm overshoot which I dont know why nobody points out. Its obvious if u have a high end wheel this will feel weaker. But for all coming from most belt driven wheels and never tried a DD wheel will be very impressed.

[@alnath01]

"...on the Pc market there’s way better options at the same price..... " which are ?

[@kazeke754]

Absolutely love mine. Only will get better with time. But they should release a premium round gt wheel for it.

[@vidvir1492]

they have release two new wheels. the hyper wheel and one more which is completely round

[@Lava-Puperze]

the other one is the evo 32r

[@Manuel-ms3qv]

Yes the 488 update was a strange one wonderd why there is a usb plug inside. Then I found out to update it you need to unscrew the quick release again. Not very user friendly.

[@davidebrusciano9527]

Hi I have a question can you update the t598 software whit a Imac ? I do not have a window pc so I am asking bc I am about to buy it ! Thanks

[@OverTake_gg]

I fear its only Windows! -Michel

[@michaelsmith4534]

Can you update the wheel via the playstation? I only really play GT7 and I don't have a PC.

[@SoberHighDrunk]

No

[@delasse3178]

its awesome but definitely need to firmware update etc. currently for me the cars are spinning out too easily, or overbraking.

[@AXIDNT66]

Any word on when it will be Xbox compatible? Or when it will be available as a standalone base for those who already have Thrustmaster ecosystem stuff?

[@bigsam9987]

lol glad i got the cammus c5 early.. the wheel is a beast

[@MrJaz8088]

Axial Drive Motors have been used in EV Cars for a few years now, Thrustmaster are acting like they just invented it, plenty of info on these type of drive's is out there

[@Two49]

If they can reduce the size of the wheelbase by even 15% if would be a way better form factor. For someone upgrading over a G29 it's cartoonishly large.

[@KayoMichiels]

It is like that, because of how the motor is built.

[@Andybarney555]

Ive gonr otherway.. cuz this sucks.. no xbox.. so im now logi.. get the g pro.. ps base xbox wheels. All 3 platforms.!!. Dont regret now play gt7 on ps4 pro got cheap.. epic.. i have it all or will with pc aswell oneday soon

[@Designer_Opine]

I have mine for 2 weeks now. Very impressed by the company’s efforts to evolve, especially when it’s in part, motivated by creating a more competitive market. A huge benefit for the consumer. I came from a T300 GT bundle so for me this has been a huge improvement in all respects. TM support was extremely helpful with walking me through my 488 Ferrari wheel update. A Mac user who after 5 years had to boot up their old windows laptop to make this possible. 😂

[@OverTake_gg]

I can imagine that update was a quite challenging then 😂 Good that they supported you! -Michel

[@tubest8kdagreat]

its a great beginner wheel

[@f1simracingdenyvps230]

I’am testing this T598 for a week now, and it’s a great product for it’s price. Testing for a couple of hours don’t give a good revieuw!

[@OfficialJoeyTV]

Why are reviewers forgetting to update the newest firmware? lol. The inertia update got this wheel locked in! Still a few things to be worked out but I can definitely say this wheel is better than a t300rs. Some say they like it better than a tgt2. Idk. Im loving it now with the new update. At first I was like oh noooo why did i buy this lol.

[@OverTake_gg]

We are not always reviewing, filming and editing videos the day before we publish it :) This took more than a week and was worked on while doing other videos. So for the review I was testing it just before the firmware was released and then mounted other products on our rig. Thats how it didn't make it in this case. But there will be a follow up with tips for wheel settings with the new firmware 👍🏻 -Michel

[@valentin1166]

They threw it out there as an unfinished product with no avaibility just to disrupt the sales for other companies during the holidays.

[@Miguel-th3wx]

Testing pedal movement on carpet by pressing straight down on them standing up. Did you seriously expect them to move when the force is pointed downwards?

[@OverTake_gg]

Nah I pushed it also the other way, it works :) -Michel

[@RacingHermit]

Unless you're stuck on console or live somewhere where other bases are not available. There is no good reason to get this base. Not when other companies offer better quality products around that price. Thrustmaster falling short again.

[@mfetterelli]

Name one competitor at that price. I'll wait.

[@RacingHermit]

@mfetterelli Moza, Fanatec, Cammus. This is dependent on where you live, of course.

[@Daz-Boyo]

Released too early 😂😂 No stock at thrustmaster and no stock at a high street outlet . 😡😡

[@mkatakm]

Too little, too late.

[@flaw3dgenius222]

Shame really...it promised so much yet delivered so little.

[@shmuckmcbozo3067]

How are you going to review a bundle kit for $500 and not mention the PXN v12 lite not once. Honestly, for a reviewer and not mentioning it (when the PXN is superior in everyway and being 20 bucks cheaper) like its so much better I'm convinced in your agreement to review this unfinished garbage that it was a claus not to mention it. If 500 is the budget ppl, PXN v12 lite comes with a clutch, compatible out the box with pc, ps5, and xbox, comes with a premium metal adjustable mount, it is DD, 6NM torque, break pedal comes with spring and elastomer, the pedals come with a nice metal plate, like for the money and the quality of the components you would feel nothing less of disrespect if you knew these two brands are the same price point but one outshines the other in every category. I mean cmon, thrustmaster knows this so well they have to claw back market share with a god damn "research paper" statimg how theyre better in everyway when their own software on launch doesn't even work sheeeesh, and im not even done ramblimg yet...

[@OverTake_gg]

We even reviewed the PXN here, but its not available in all markets, has no official PlayStation license and a few other things like a questionmark when it comes to warranty, costumer service etc. why I wouldn't recommend it to beginners in this environment. -Michel

[@marki61422]

@@OverTake_gg Come on, it's because you got paid by Thrustmaster, if PXN paid you, you'd be saying the PXN v12 lite was way better.

[@realtalk9195]

Sounds like a cheap version of real direct drive like what fanatec use! Thrustmaster your not fooling anyone with your so called scientific papers 😂😂

[@LocoTheSquirrel]

Thrustmaster has been dying for years.