Thunderbird: Three Legends From Native American Mythology

Exploring Thunderbird Symbolism in Native American Mythology, Religion, & Culture through ancient and contemporary art, artifacts, poetry, and traditional stories and legends. Despite the great diversity within indigenous North American cultures, the Thunderbird is a recurring symbol all across the continent. We uncover the practical meaning behind this ancient symbolism.
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The purpose of this channel is to share the important stories at the foundation of human cultures throughout history. These include mythology, legends, folktales, religious stories, and parables from the dawn of history to the modern day. This channel provides interpretations and insight into these stories, to find and apply their meaning to contemporary life. All stories covered are treated academically. This channel makes no claims regarding the historical, scientific, or religious truth of these tales. Rather, its goal is to find the meanings understood by their authors and apply them to the modern world.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:03 Map of America by Claude Bernou
00:46 Thunderbird Petroglyph at Twin Bluffs, Wisconsin, United States
01:00 I Own This Land by Alan Levine, Licensed Under Creative Commons
01:41 Protector
01:44 The Trapper And His Family by Charles Daes
02:26 The Teaching Stone, Petroglyphs Provincial Park, Petersborough, Ontario, Canada
02:36 Inscription Found on the Dighton Rock, Berkley, Massachusetts, United States by Henry Wheaton
02:46 Horned Serpent Vase, from New Mexico, United States or Chihuahua, Mexico, from the Art Institute of Chicago
03:14 Thunderbird Petroglyph, Washington State Park, Missouri, United States, photographed by Wikipedian Kbh3rd, Licensed Under Creative Commons
03:28 Painted Skin Representing the Thunderbird, Great Lakes Region, from the Branly Quay Museum, Paris, France
03:51 Harriet Maxwell Converse, Myths And Legends Of The New York Iroquois
04:29 Boy Chief - Ojibwe by George Catlin
04:46 Thunderbird by Emily Carr
05:13 Norval Morriseau, Thunderbird And Snake
06:15 Artist And Shaman Between Two Worlds by Norval Morriseau, from the National Gallery of Canada, photographed by Joanne Clifford, Licensed Under Creative Commons
06:55 Provider
07:01 Map of the United States by Sidney E Morse
07:55 Mungo Martin House, Thunderbird Park, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada, photographed by Ryan Bushby, Licensed Under Creative Commons
08:44 House Posts by Emily Carr
09:00 Thunderbird Rug from the Collection of Bill Volckening, Licensed Under Creative Commons
09:10 War Canoes by Emily Carr
09:30 Nutka Chief's Hat from the Museum of the Americas, Madrid, Spain, photographed by Luís Garcia, Licensed Under Creative Commons
09:40 Alert Bay by Emily Carr
10:11 Preserver
10:16 Bison Skulls Adorned With Thunderbirds from the Kwakiutl People, photographed by
10:31 Harney's Peak [now known as Black Elk Peak] by John C H Grabill
10:57 Haida Double Thunderbird
11:08 Ojibwe Pouch from the Peabody Museum, Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts, United States
11:17 Totem, Thunderbird Park, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada, photographed by Emmanuel Brunner, Licensed Under Creative Commons
11:24 Thunderbird Petroglyph, Zion National Park, Utah, United States, photographed by Wikipedian Fredlyfish4, Licensed Under Creative Commons
11:33 Water Monster And Red Painted Tipis by Walter McClintock
12:06 Nuu-chah-nulth Basket from the National Museum Of The American Indian, New York, United States, photographed by Jeff Kubina, Licensed Under Creative Commons
12:39 Field With Poles by Emily Carr
13:43 Conclusion
13:47 A Mohawk Medicine Woman from Metropolitan Magazine
14:37 The Dawn Drink Of The Dream Faster by Harriet Maxwell Converse
14:49 The Village Hill, Saint Paul's Island by Henry Wood Elliott
15:11 Summer, Lake Ontario by Jasper Francis Cropsey
16:32 Outro
All visual art used is within the Public Domain unless otherwise specified.
Ambiment - The Ambient by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license.

[@brendonducharme3527]

I'm part Nisga'a here on the western coast of british colombia, and my grandma has stories of when the Tseax Volcano erupted. She told me of when the rivers in the nass valley were bountiful with salmon, so much so, that you can walk across the river along the backs of the fish. The many higher spirits watched over the land, when some boys from one of the villages dotted along the river, came to the waters edge and pulled salmon out. As the fish struggled in the open air, it amused them, and they took sharp rocks and cut their backs open to jab into them sticks that were burning like candles. After doing this to many fish and putting them back into the water, watching the smoldering sticks weave their way up the river, the frog spirit got extremely upset that these boys would abuse such an important source of food that these salmon sacrifice themself for. In quick action, the frog spirit struck the valley, causing the earth to violently shake, open up, and lava to spill. The glowing, molten rock intercepted the river and flowed towards the villages, replacing water in the river with lava. One after the other, the villages and its inhabitants were consumed by the glowing red river. Hearing the chaos happening, our, and I quote "friends to the south prayed and called upon the great thunderbird to help us." After flying over the mountains and seeing the lava move towards another village, he layed his beak on ground, just beyond the village, making the lava flow elsewhere. People were saved, but villages were already gone. It is said that the cooled lava rocks seen from above, seem to have cooled in a straight line, and some have speculated that that's where the Thunderbird laid his beak Even in this instance, the Thunderbird was a protecting figure, much like the other nations who's stories told of such a bird.

[@mythosandlogos]

Wow. That is truly beautiful; I would have even included that story in here if I had heard it beforehand. Thank you so, so much for sharing.

[@brendonducharme3527]

@@mythosandlogos No problem, my friend. It's in our culture to share our stories, and I'm glad you like it :) Not often to I see native American culture being promoted, so I'm more them happy to share

[@tereanderson8456]

Beautiful... thank you. That was a great addition! The video creator even commented that it would have been included have you heard it beforehand! But yes this giant bird communicated with me telepathically, it knew where I was, it wanted me to know.. it felt loving and protective.

[@mythicalcreaturereport9293]

W.O.W wow! truly inspiring😍😍😍

[@mythicalcreaturereport9293]

W.O.W wow! truly inspiring😍😍😍

[@CuteDwarf11]

I have always been fascinated by Thunderbirds, and their connection to storms and the earth. I would love to see a Thunderbird even just once in my lifetime, they're amazing...

[@mythosandlogos]

Indeed. Happy you found your way here!

[@redthunder7530]

Well done! My own native grandfather was honored with the name Chief Thunderbird by Lakota Chief Whirlwind Soldier after WW ll. Thus I have always felt the protective presence of Thunderbird. The old ones of my own tribe said the our Thunderbird had metal feathers that deflected arrows. Recently I heard another far away tribe had a similiar story of a metal clad Thunderbird long before airplanes were supposedly invented. Very curious.

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you for sharing your story!

[@marvinmartian6516]

🛸⚡

[@tiagomori2534]

Here in Brazil, we have a legend about a giant fire snake, call boitata, this giant snake is the gurdian of the forest, protect the people that live in the forest from wildfire, and other’s people that want to warm the forest

[@mythosandlogos]

That is beautiful. Thank you for sharing! Muito amor

[@cloakedsquid]

when i was young, i saw a giant bird. it looked like a hawk but it was bigger than a car. i always thought about what it was, but honestly just thought i imagined it somehow, even though nothing like that has happened before or since. then i heard someone telling a story about their mom who saw a giant bird, and it sounded exactly like the one i had seen

[@wessphillipson2959]

I am of both Spanish, and Native heritage. The totem given to me is Crow. As I’ve come to embrace my totem, I have found a new found fascination and deep connection for the Thunderbird folklore. So far, this video has been the most cohesive, well thought out, and well written piece of information that I’ve found available on the subject. Mythos & Logos has consolidated a broad and scattered amount of information, and made it an accessible trail-head to further knowledge. I highly appreciate the hard work and detail put into this video.

[@mythosandlogos]

I am really glad to hear that. I wear a Thunderbird pendant around my neck; I am very happy to hear that the stories of this marvelous being have touched you, too.

[@louisroth5941]

Doesn’t that make you Mexican

[@thunderbirdsalvage8248]

The Native American Thunderbird ultimately symbolizes creation, transformation and rebirth as does the ancient Egyptian Phoenix, which is the same metaphysical being. Represented through one of nature’s most majestic life forms, this bird is within us all. Always cycling death and rebirth.

[@mythosandlogos]

Beautiful insight, thank you so much for sharing! The Thunderbird clearly means a lot to you :)

[@MrsJones-1]

I put this in comments. I had a 7 on third eye couple years skin pigmentation melanin gets darker in sun. Then it grew into a legit thunderbird shape. Been told I was a native american medicine person in past life few times. AB rh neg blood though. Any who liked your comment Im searching for meaning. It feels good

[@JP-mn5iv]

I don’t understand why people have to insist on connecting Native American traditions to Egyptian culture. Other than skin pigment they don’t have much in common at all…. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@KizaWittaker]

@@JP-mn5iv It has nothing to do with how they look at all. I also extremely disagree that Egyptians and Native Americans don’t have much in common.

[@robynperdieu3434]

@@MrsJones-1 A B-. Here as well. Definitely think it means something significant. AB- was on the Shroud of Turin, but the evil ones are trying to hide it now.

[@Tayalovetreeee]

I’m Makkah and quileute this was cool to watch I went to chief leschi all native school and we got lots of culture that nobody knows so it’s cool seeing this and people enjoy

[@mythosandlogos]

Wow, that must have been such an amazing experience for schooling! It absolutely sounds like a step in the right direction as opposed to the damage done by many schools in the past. I’m happy to hear that you enjoyed this video, and since I like these comment sections to be open places, feel free to share anything if you ever feel like it, whether it’s stories, culture, your experiences, etc.

[@Kylee737]

They exist! I saw ‘something’ on full moon 2020 in nor cal… only saw part of one wing, which was banded light & dark, huge, filled my entire field of vision of sky. Heard it first, like a canopy in a high wind. Scared life out of me.

[@mythosandlogos]

Great story, thank you for sharing!

[@steff9041]

There are several reports of hikers who have gone missing in Northern California who disappeared without a trace. Their footprints/trail come to an abrupt halt, as if they were taken by something above them. Dogs don't pick up any scent after that halting point. Be careful out there! There are modern day sightings of gigantic winged creatures all over the globe.

[@clarissasoftner9363]

Hey I'm interested in this have you seen it again? And was that on north California?

[@Kylee737]

@@clarissasoftner9363 no I haven’t seen it again. I moved back to Australia not long after, haven’t seen anything interesting since but now I go outside looking every full moon.

[@alanwerner8563]

would you mind telling more exactly where it was that you saw this? N.CA. is a Very large place. I’ve heard it said that just Mendocino County is the size of Connecticut. And then there’s Humboldt, Del Norte and Sonoma counties besides. You know, without saying Too much.

[@jennifermoody6987]

This was not only incredibly fascinating, it was extremely well told and utterly captivating because your voice is so perfect for doing this kinda thing.. I'm now a new subscriber and can't wait to experience more of your work.. the metaphorical concepts displayed in this were profoundly deep and resonated somewhere within the very core of my being, in a way I certainly wasn't expecting, but I found immensely comforting and thought provoking..BRAVO 👏 👏 👏SENDING ALL WHO READ THIS SO MUCH LOVE, PEACE, LIGHT AND INFINITE BLESSINGS ❤ STAY BLESSED NEVER STRESSED 🙏

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you so much. Your beautiful words are encouraging, knowing that I'm doing a good job sharing the beautiful meanings of these stories. I'm happy to have you here!

[@kingmaverick4499]

The speech at 9:55 and on reminds me of the times we’re in now, the time where society is tired of doing what is necessary to keep balance in the community, society and works itself, thus we pray for the arrival of the most high. For only he can restore order to the whales of today. Peace be to everyone.

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you, and Amen.

[@RRNGE]

When you encounter one of these things. Your outlook on life changes. I live in Nebraska. Some of this stuff is unreal in until it's starting you right in the face!

[@octavialaprairie4525]

This was so beautiful and informative. I was meditating recently and heard the word Thunderbird and so began my quest. I recently drove through Thunder Bay Ontario and felt even more connection.

[@mythosandlogos]

I’m happy this found you! I’ve seen photos of Thunder Bay, it looks beautiful :)

[@marypehachek7568]

Thunderbird came through in my meditation recently, too- as an image. I have been familar with the symbolism during my life and have been given pendants and brooches with this symbol from the Pacific rim, Peru and one was my great grandmothers. Life has evolved. I have not associated with these pieces for a time. It came as a solution to a question. Your concluding statements in this piece gives me that answer perfectly. We face challenging times. The Earth Spirits cry. I am grateful for your work. 🙏🐋

[@phoenixtoash2396]

I was named an eastern thunderbeing. By a medicine man in 1996 during the comet halebop in billings montana. This medicine man was purely the most wonderful man. He told the the story. And it was a beautiful story. His granddaughter was there as well as my professor. I thought he mistook me for someone else. But now i see what he was saying. In truth his dream was right.

[@mythosandlogos]

That sounds like it must have been an amazing experience. I would love to hear more about this wonderful man and your time with him! 💫

[@phoenixtoash2396]

@@mythosandlogos It was. He sat on a bench and told me the story of creation and said he dreamed of me. And said I was the eastern thunder being. Said I had to teach humans about being human. I took every word seriously. But didn't believe it at first.

[@phoenixtoash2396]

​@@mythosandlogosThe old man. Was animated was very wise. I could feel how strong he was. I still have no idea who he was. His name he said was something like two dogs. But I told him he had the wrong person. That he must be wrong. But he said no. He dreamed about me. I was shocked and sat down. And listened.

[@phoenixtoash2396]

​@@mythosandlogosone thing he told me. Was to touch the foreheads of the people and teach them. He told me to spread my wings. And soar. I was so amazed by this man it effected me from that moment on.

[@toadelevator]

Informative, and much better at 1.5 x speed

[@mythosandlogos]

I’m glad you enjoyed, at any speed :)

[@tereanderson8456]

Also I live in Northeast Wyoming by the Black hills. Lakota territory. I've been seeing all kinds of things lately, I just feel so honored thank you for your information it helped a lot

[@JP-mn5iv]

I’m from Cody. It’s the same up there… strange days indeed.

[@amysue1616]

Please. What did you see? I believe you

[@tereanderson8456]

@@amysue1616 I saw a white Thunderbird, at first I thought it was a small White Plane. But just as I was thinking that it tilted it's back toward me and I saw its wings flap in succession, two sets of wings, up up down down. Right then I said is that a bird? And at that exact moment a dragonfly nearly impaled itself on my left cheek as if to say, did you see that? Let me just say that it was epic oh, I haven't been the same. It also left me with a telepathic message that it knew where I was and it wanted me to know.

[@robynperdieu3434]

@@tereanderson8456 Was this near Bear Lodge, Hulett WY?

[@tereanderson8456]

@@robynperdieu3434 this was a Newcastle Wyoming, so yes, not far from Hulett if you had giant wings two sets even

[@josephmamah4124]

My friend made an absolute banger of a song and he named it thunderbird.

[@mythosandlogos]

A great subject for inspiration! Feel free to share :)

[@Mr.Xeno.]

The day before, my son Pheannx came to my sister in a dream, as a Thunder Bird with a ⚡ he means so much to me.

[@mythosandlogos]

Beautiful :) I’m happy this found you!

[@Mr.Xeno.]

@@mythosandlogos I'm glad the knowledge found you 1st!

[@rosepetals8181]

🌈🙏

[@doberman1ism]

Beautifully told. Thank you for your contribution. The Ancient Egyptian Phoenix known as Bennu rises from the ashes.

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you! I’m not familiar with Bennu, but will be happy to take a look.

[@rosepetals8181]

🙏🦅

[@briangateley4909]

I'm from rural cedar grove TN. I found Countless Stones of the Thunderbird. Said to be Effigies. When upon finding one sometimes I have to set down to take it all in. Plus found stones of mastodons, snakes, owls etc. Etc. Thank u fer video

[@mythosandlogos]

That sounds awe-inspiring. Thank you for sharing!

[@kimberlyhenson9954]

Enjoyed this as part of our homeschool day after seeing the Thunderbird in the book "A, Beast, C". Thank you!

[@mythosandlogos]

I’m honored to be a part of it :) Thank you!

[@CharlieSolis]

Love this! Thanks for sharing! But I have something to say… I have found the thunderbirds. Not metaphorically. Literally I have found the thunderbirds in every major city not just on these American continents but the ones all over the world. I have found them, I have seen them and I know how to bring awaken them all and give them their proper glory once again 🦾🦅 ⚡️ Who’s with me?

[@sheriesehenderson429]

I want to add this as well in south we have lightening storms and this bird did appear during that same week and it felt like lightening hit the ground out back . I recall I went to search the ground to see where the lighting hit.

[@mythosandlogos]

That must have been beautiful. I’m happy you found this!

[@hopenfeathers1984]

So, so beautiful! Rise above, like the great Thunderbird. I believe this to be a very solid lesson for all times in our lives, taught in a beautiful and respectful manner. Such powerful wisdom in these stories. Thank you! 💚 🙏🏼

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you so much! Comments like yours make me so happy, knowing that the message is well received. Best wishes 🙏🏼

[@dianabarrera999]

Honestly, I’m usually skeptical about things like this but experiencing something like this, was freaking Crazy!! me and my best friend saw like this big huge black bird on top of this big tree as we were driving out in the country n this very long gravel road we passed by this huge tree and all I remembered was looking on top of the tree as we were driving by and seeing these GIGANTIC ENORMOUS bird claws it was quite terrifying to see because, I remember we were out of gas too so we were like driving fast too lol 😂 I wanted to even record or take a picture but I was to, frozen just looking at this big bird and I’m like what the heck!!! All never forget that crazy experience we know what we saw till the end of the day and we never stop talking about it ever since. Once you’re in that moment it’s unbelievable. ✨ crazy part is we saw this in The midwestern region in Nebraska

[@mythosandlogos]

What an experience! I'm glad you could add your story to the many others here :)

[@jaredthomaseuper]

Great video! After researching this subject for a few decades now I am convince that Thunderbirds were airplanes. The native stories and descriptions seem to all point to them being planes.

[@mythosandlogos]

I’m happy you enjoyed! Even though I’m personally more interested in the spiritual/poetic elements, it is very cool to think of the similarities between ancient legends and products of modern technology. There is definitely inspiration. The US Air Force Thunderbirds, a team of pilots that often perform stunt shows, come to mind. They’ve flown over my apartment a few times.

[@rosepetals8181]

LETS NOT BE FOOLED BY A STORY,THAT IS A ACTUAL EXPERIENCE 🌈👁️🙏

[@TarninTheGreat]

Thank you. And yeah, I'd listen to you tell as many more Thunderbird stories as you've got.

[@mythosandlogos]

Noted! Coyote stories are up next :)

[@dolltall]

Beautiful

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you! I am happy to share from a beautiful tradition.

[@sheriesehenderson429]

I Thank you. 🙋🏽 Yes, I would like to say this explain to me that Big huge bird That appeared out of the woods by a creek .As I looked on watching the bird trapped through the leaves walking along the leaves making a noise I was with family on back porch we all was trying to guess what type of animal we were looking out ruling out all the native birds. This began to be for me a spiritual moment in time. Mark by this strange bird. Black Large animal.

[@davidireland9195]

Thank you for your work and the sharing of the wisdom and knowledge you have shared. I have been given a gift before i could even walk out the door,, then too relize there were even more, for one to wake then to open my eyes then to move the body i am in, then you as well. Peace Love and Light equals Love -Truth

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you for sharing ❤️

[@michiahcarpenter135]

I've been searching for this video long before you started making it! ❤

[@mythosandlogos]

I’m glad you found it!

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you for joining! This video took a lot of time and research, but I am *very* proud of the finished product! It was quite ambitious to find a narrative shared by distinctly different people across the massive continent of North America, or Turtle Island. I hope that the meaning and symbolism of the Thunderbird have been able to connect with you! Going back to our Greek comfort zone next time :)

[@PotheadCowpoke]

You're welcome, and thank you for sharing!

[@susannahfranklin8768]

I deeply enjoyed it and your voice was so comforting . I found great value in the symbolism, it gives me a lot to chew on.. i wish i had a way of making pocket totem poles for my family. To remind them of the story about the thunderbird 🧩

[@mythosandlogos]

@@susannahfranklin8768 I'm sure you could find some carving wood and some tutorials, KZbin can be a wonderful place! Thanks for watching

[@urbanelysium]

I’ve seen a thunderbird. And is it ironic that I can talk (bird songs) to birds? I dunno but I feel privileged to be able to do so.

[@dingle1563]

Really enjoyed this video. If future videos could have raised volume for your wonderful voice it would be a blessing my good sir

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you! I’m happy you enjoyed, and I will surely keep that in mind :)

[@stacyhazelwood4033]

Great video. Thank you for your extensive work and sharing it.

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you very much! It can be a lot of research, but it’s worth it.

[@ravi_freitas]

incredible, so deep ...

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you so much! It was a lot of research, and took time to put together, but comments like this make it clear that the hard work is worth it. Thanks

[@ravi_freitas]

@@mythosandlogos your work is great! 😉

[@guynouri]

Thank you

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you for joining!

[@missourimongoose8858]

If you would like to see a unknown mississippian site with rock paintings and 2 caves I made a video showing it on my channel, we were told it's a shrine to the underwater panther God which is also known as the horned serpent in certain tribes

[@mythosandlogos]

That is so cool. It makes sense that that would be near a natural spring, too. I’m so glad you shared.

[@missourimongoose8858]

@@mythosandlogos thank you, we really don't know who to tell about this site because we don't want any methheads looking for arrowheads destroying it so I figured I would make a video (although I really wish i knew how to turn on comments lol) we were told this site most likely has burials around as well but no one has checked it out or anything

[@mythosandlogos]

I would recommend reaching out to a local university! They either likely have a program, or have contacts in the right place who can make sure the site is preserved.

[@missourimongoose8858]

@@mythosandlogos a man from Washington University came and took pics of the bluff one time but we didn't really hear anything since then

[@louisroth5941]

I just watched the movie Prey where they mentioned the thunderbird.

[@mythosandlogos]

That movie was so well done! That was a really great cultural touch.

[@pamelapurcell8574]

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[@mythosandlogos]

Welcome! I am a simple person doing my best, and I appreciate your kind words ♥️

[@davidlloyd2225]

I live in UK I got,3 times across moon....saxon,man,crow,wolf ❤...peace and blessings change comes

[@sunnybeaches1331]

Just subscribed! Thanks.

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you, and welcome!

[@wanderingfree149]

Beauitful

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you, I’m glad you were moved by this.

[@frankbluestar2103]

The Thunder Bird Can travel to the Stars

[@mythosandlogos]

Yes! Thanks for being here.

[@Danielnesteves]

Thunderbirds seem a little like angels

[@mythosandlogos]

Messengers, hard to describe but you recognize them in action... Definitely some major similarities here! Lame Deer’s quote on how you no one has seen a Thunderbird, but you can see it’s claws, reminds me of the question, “How many angels could fit on a pinhead?” Very metaphysical. Nice connection.

[@nicoleis108]

I would love to know where I could find the third story you told, of the thunderbird and the great-horned serpent. Also, have you come across any Seminole thunderbird stories?

[@mythosandlogos]

Thanks! That story is told by John Fire Lame Deer. I found it in the collection “Native American Myths and Legends” by Erdoes and Ortiz. I haven’t personally heard any Seminole Thunderbird stories, but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t any; in fact, I know very little about the Seminole, so it just means I have more to learn.

[@andrewellisonlee]

Great video, found all of it interesting.

[@mythosandlogos]

I’m so glad! Thank you :)

[@richardemerson549]

Beautiful!

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you!

[@missourimongoose7643]

On my dad's property in southern Missouri there is a rock bluff with native drawings on it, we were told it's a shrine to the underwater panther which is the enemy of the thunderbird but I haven't found much info on the subject, if anyone knows anything let me know like if I should start looking for a thunderbird shrine close by or something

[@mythosandlogos]

That’s amazing! To help you do some research, you can start by looking up “Unktehi,” which is the Lakota name. (Even though they weren’t in Missouri traditionally, they’re the nation I’m most familiar with and the one that I know the name for.)

[@dreamchaser0477]

I have also had a major spiritual awakening in Florida which made me seem high or crazy vand totally had me so terrified as to try understand what seen don't hallucinate but yet all that seen and all that know as make my way down my spiritual path truly am understanding. And God path and the way of this also within my family. As have many different. Lines within. My. Life most don't understand or remember much of my past just know that I can move forward more that my ancestors and sprites and others that meet along this way. Is truly

[@Lordhavemercy567]

Well done! 👌

[@mythosandlogos]

Thank you! This topic was a personal favorite of mine, so I’m glad you liked it :)

[@oneshowoneservant]

🔥landed🔥

[@tereanderson8456]

Thank you so much! I love this! I was meditating and my front yard today. Standing with my feet on the grass. I was looking at the clouds and saw what I thought at first was a small airplane. It went pretty quick, I realized it had two sets of wings and they were moving in succession the front ones followed by the back ones. Is that a bird I said? It was quite a ways up but close enough to see it was not an airplane. It swooped around out of sight and I went around to look and of course it was gone. I went in the house and immediately looked up what mythical creature has two sets of wings? First picture it brings up is that white Thunderbird from Harry Potter. I tell you that was exactly what it looked like. I don't usually talk about the things I see, but I listened to all of the videos and most of them were just reading the things I found myself. Yours was really different. Thank you so much

[@mythosandlogos]

You are so very welcome. What a beautiful part of the country you are blessed to live in, I really hope to make it there one day. Wishing all the best.

[@tereanderson8456]

@@mythosandlogos May the opportunity open up for you, it is visually stunning here, blessings.

[@deannekliene2673]

I don't live far from the Piasa bird in Illinois ..when people record these things it generally means something happened..my friend had cats come up missing one by one...her neighbor claimed he saw a giant bird grab one....

[@ericm3872]

I like that

[@mythosandlogos]

I'm happy you enjoyed!

[@BigChant88]

❤

[@VsAStarr]

Where is this place 15:55?

[@mythosandlogos]

The artist, Jasper Francis Cropsey, painted it as an idealized landscape of Lake Ontario in Canada, with parts of the landscape taken from multiple places around the Lake combined into one paining. The painting is in the Indianapolis Museum of Art. Glad you enjoyed :)

[@ZeteticPlato]

The year was 1977 ... A Cherokee pointed at the sky ... That Cherokee was my dad

[@bluesonicdrift2519]

As a fellow Louisianan I wonder if there is any Thunderbird references in local Choctaw tribes? Considering you said thunderbirds are prevalent around areas with a lot of water, I wonder if that’s applicable to the Choctaw people. I’m asking because I’m 1/8 Choctaw and none of the tales or history was passed from my mother. Anything helps and thank you for such and informative video!

[@mythosandlogos]

Great question. I’ll do some research and let you know what I find! I would certainly love to learn some Choctaw stories :)

[@bluesonicdrift2519]

Thank you so much!

[@mythosandlogos]

I've found a few things that may help: In the "Presentations" section on this page, Slide 10 of Ryan L Spring's presentation on Choctaw Ethnobotany shows some art made from a yellow dye from Kvta Lakna (Bois D'Arc) which shows a Thunderbird. www.choctawnation.com/tribal-services/cultural-services/historic-preservation Also, this children's book may interest you! www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0803717490/natilangofthe-20 There are a lot of events at the Choctaw Cultural Center in Oklahoma, since most of Choctaw Nation is there now after the Trail of Tears. Definitely worth a visit. choctawculturalcenter.com Best wishes!

[@bluesonicdrift2519]

Looks interesting thank you for all of your research and best of wishes!

[@bonezsmith7331]

The tell go as far as aboriginals in Australia with a Thunderbirds fighting the rainbow serpent

[@mythosandlogos]

Beautiful. I would love to learn some Dreamtime stories.

[@sofoclesmefisto]

Nsasi ⚡️🔥

[@oracleangelsshiftall2609]

What about the Thunderbird of the South. Like the ones found in the bird mounds of Poverty Point Louisiana?

[@mythosandlogos]

Good catch! There are more stories than can fit in any one video, I think.

[@oracleangelsshiftall2609]

@@mythosandlogos I'm asking because I saw one here in Louisiana.

[@alanwerner8563]

Very Cool. Fascinating how Universal the Thunderbird is across (apparently) the entirety of N. America. Several things: first, you didn’t seem to recognize that there have been Actual Real, Physically manifested Monster Birds, animals which there are Many photos of, mostly it seems in the SW US and/or down into Mexico and S-ward. I have saved screenshots of several. There are also a few early photos of Monster Birds which were killed by huntersand which were stretched out, 1 against the wall of a barn as I recall. And based on the 8-10 guys standing next to it must’ve had a wingspan of 40-50 FEET. These ofcourse are kept in the realm of Crypto-Zoological creatures, even though the one is supported by a crystal clear black-white photo. What do you think of these? There are those in the field of cryptozoology who think these creatures are relictual avian dinosaurs, possibly Pterosaurs or Pteranodons (sp?). And then there are the cr3atures from the Chinese Astrological pantheon who are called Phoenixes. Although i think the Phoenix is considered a Dragon. What are your thoughts of the relatedness of these things? Important to bear in mind that most Anthropologists and Paleontologists link the Native American tribes to early (from before the most recent Ice Age) emigrants from Siberian and Mongolian tribes who slowly crossed across the Bering Land Bridge during times of periodic warming, so these peoples would’ve naturally brought along their mythological (or real) totemic animals.

[@andrewapple5816]

Give us more First nation stories please

[@mythosandlogos]

Every time I share one, it’s received remarkably well, so I think I’ll have to :)

[@LillianAdamson]

Most of my people are dead or suffering so yeah sorry there is not more stories for your entertainment 🙂

[@mythosandlogos]

@@LillianAdamson That makes it that much more important to share the stories that we can, and inspire people to care about these beautiful people and cultures.

[@spaalqutsi]

@@mythosandlogos just be careful, this vid your work is great, in general tho I think maybe it's time that non native people step back with native culter and let the people speak tell there stories share what we know is safe for outsiders ears, were not gon were still here, there are story tellers elders artists n passing r stories on, I'm not saying u didn't do ur homework I can tell lots went into this, but there's lots of potential for miss interpretation to and sometimes miss use, at the very least I hope none native peoples ask and talk with elders and the people of these culters, There's a history in the "amaricas" we were forbidden to teach and talk... Perticapait in r culture so much so native kids were kidnapped, starved, turterd, murdered... people were forbidden and now there's a lot of work in all of these comunites to heal, I'm tierd of non first nations deciding they know what's best for so long alot of r history has been taken and told in the colonial way of thinking to this day none natives take without a care for respect, this vid is defently in good attention I'm just saying be carfull wen it come to actuall living and healing growing cultures I can't speak to all the people's mentioned in the vid n I'm sure alot would love it I'm sure my dad would, I a Coast Salish/mixed culture but Salish carver first That all said it's interesting hearing outsiders thoughts on these things wen done with respect like ur vid. Paraden any misspells n gramers these things don't come easy to my brain

[@mythosandlogos]

@@spaalqutsi Thank you for a very thoughtful comment. You are absolutely right, in many cultures there are some stories which are more open to outsiders, and others which aren’t. I will definitely do my best to make sure that I am echoing indigenous voices with these, rather than focusing on my own. I think it would be a good idea for me to make sure that, in cultures where these stories are still living, I also share how they are today. There is a lot of shameful, tragic history, and letting people know that these people are still here and alive is very important. Thanks for a very thoughtful comment, I really appreciate it.

[@newnormal1841]

. Is this Anzu? The ancient Sumerian Mesopotamian Zarathustra bird? Thunderbird, Phoenix. Some depictions to me, looks like the giant steel electrical power structures - "poles"(?). Thunder - bird, Thors hammer. Electricity. Transmission tower Electrical pylon. ❓ I was looking at metal charms to decorate my moccasins The Phoenix, some are depicted as the Chinese flying dragon - bird. 🤺💐

[@kiramortwilson7411]

Grr, why does this have so few views... Real talk, if you labeled this as ASMR, you’d probably grow your channel overnight. You have the voice for it. :p I know that’s likely not your goal, but I just thought I’d point it out.

[@mythosandlogos]

Happy to hear it! xP Honestly, the quality of views matters so much more to me than quantity, and it seems like we are reaching the right kind of people with this, so I don’t mind a slow and steady growth :) Thanks for doing your part!

[@ArtTaggerr-223]

The Thunderbird is real, I’ve seen it myself 100 feet away.

[@mythosandlogos]

Wow! If you’re open to sharing, I would love to hear the story.

[@ArtTaggerr-223]

@@mythosandlogos Sure. Two of us were sitting in a 3/4 ton truck on a dirt road facing west near the old base at El Toro, California, the dirt road ran parallel with a long roll of Eucalyptus trees. We got a call on the radio, started the truck, then heard a loud cracking of a Eucalyptus tree in front of us. It sounded like the tree was breaking. A giant bird flew out of one of the trees in front of us about 100 feet away. It flapped it’s wings and was gone over the rooftops of the houses to our right, which was in northern direction. The bird’s wingspan was much larger than the width of the road. I estimated to be 20-25 feet wide. So yes, the Thunderbird is real.

[@johnwalker9315]

You are not correct, many people have seen these massive dangerous birds, myself included! My friend and I saw it over 30 years ago, during a hunting trip. We saw it at extremely close range. Wrong again, this is not a friendly Bird by any means. It could rip you into many new pieces, in only a matter of seconds! I do not mean to be funny by any means. I am as serious as a heart attack! You are now warned!

[@omggiiirl2077]

There also other creatures that Iare found throughout the North American continent, the wild giants, or Bigfoot, and the little people.

[@mythosandlogos]

There is definitely a lot out there!

[@mandym9249]

First thing I thought of while listening to this was Harry Potter being saves from the basilisk by fawlks the Phoenix!

[@mythosandlogos]

Yes!! A great parallel :)

[@MrsJones-1]

Got a melanin brown mark in between my eyes where third eye is. It was shaped as a 7 now it morphed into thunderbird shape. Dont know why im sharing this, just am. Just proud of it

[@mythosandlogos]

Whether symbolic or a coincidence, that’s quite cool, and I’m glad it’s led you to some learning :)

[@LillianAdamson]

Maybe it's a good, blessed Omen for you. like u have medium powers or something like that ..hmmmm

[@stefthor7297]

Miigwetch. Marks can show self their transformations... curious if in your walk you went from colonizer religion to creator's way? Sometimes we speak not knowing why but perhaps it is for the other person to receive inspiration.. just thoughts

[@11Evalone]

Neato, I'm curious to see. I have a dark phoenix tattoo on my chest. Always been attracted to Phoenix and Thunderbird mythology.

[@JimmyDean1312]

"Oh no I can say that word bro I've got melanin on my third eye"

[@tommygamba170]

These are actually stories of other tribes invading the area specifically the Aztecs invading to take the people. And beating the axtec to a point

[@laurenalacroix5114]

French Canadien indian listening....

[@mythosandlogos]

Bienvenue et merci!

[@uan588]

Thunderbird Rules Barr none

[@mythosandlogos]

Such a powerful figure!

[@sabassilva8338]

That's right, the Thunder Bird strikes all liar's with its lighting, like the vatican!

[@CRAZYxSNAKE]

😺

[@mythosandlogos]

Thanks for stopping by!

[@adampetrie621]

There's absolute truth behind the Thunderbirds, check out Mr Scientific ' the magnificent Argentine bird '..

[@xanv8051]

Naga vs garula

[@oneseedaway6062]

Thunderbird ( mothman) is very real. I seen it.

[@PotheadCowpoke]

Conclusion: Someone had one heckuva peyote trip Great video, absolutely loved it, this makes me so much more interested in native American culture, I have a great grandma who is full blooded Cherokee, I don't know why I didn't look into this sooner!

[@mythosandlogos]

My understanding is that if you can trace yourself back to a Cherokee population list from around the time of the Trail of Tears, citizenship is open to you. It might be worth finding record if you can!

[@PotheadCowpoke]

@@mythosandlogos hmm interesting.. 🤔

[@inakihermosilla155]

Im view thunderbirds

[@themeek7499]

Interesting but how is it that it’s not first Nations people that still exist not speaking about their ancestral wisdom?

[@mythosandlogos]

Great question, the answer is that they are! We quote from them and share their art and poetry here, with these stories being a secondhand compilation and essay of sorts. This channel tells stories from around the world specifically because I believe we should all try to understand each other better, and hold these stories in the same high regard as those of the Greeks and Romans, for example.

[@thirdstarspiritscholar5763]

Not centuries but a few generations ago

[@mythosandlogos]

A bit of both, really; you’re absolutely right that it’s important to remember that these stories are still being told, even today.

[@HassanCodA-Xod8hm]

Thunderbirds are Go 👉 🤭💘🤭

[@mikeeckhoff20]

I wonder if native Americans had a cure for lyme disease

[@rainbowboa100]

so nice to not see pictures of buzzards!

[@imaginanalyst3317]

dude this sounds super slow. I sped it up to 1.15x and it sounds like normal talking

[@ragtimegals]

Turks are not European.

[@danielsterrett3845]

your talking nearly put me to sleep after 2 minutes