Thunderf00t VS. FemiNAZI Ghostbusters: A Measured Response

[@Genguidanos]

Thunderfoot is my least favorite Land Before Time character.

[@sadtitties222]

@Genguidanos It's been two years and I'm still laughing at your comment lol! 🤣😂

[@BenGrem917]

@@sadtitties222 Best comment ever, Genguidanos.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

@Anon 1 "Someone's being too positive about something time to be a little shit!"

[@deadmeat1471]

Lol

[@deadmeat1471]

fistbump for those who still know what the land before time is.

[@jonathansalvador5037]

(Feminists agreeing with each other) "Lol, NPCs. Think for yourselves." (Feminists disagreeing with each other) "Feminism is EATING ITSELF ALIVE!"

[@oof-rr5nf]

I did not know clap backs could be this sexy.

[@ScottGuertin]

I love the NPC meme, the people who share it all make the very slightest change to the exact same meme mocking other people for not being original thinkers. It's the weirdest self burn I've ever seen.

[@MrMarci878]

@@ScottGuertin except the NPCs looking more or less the same is kinda the joke?

[@datfisheboi6519]

@@MrMarci878 The point isn't that the NPC characters themselves look the same, but that the joke is pretty much always the same.

[@MrMarci878]

@@datfisheboi6519 you wouldnt have to make the same joke if people wouldnt shout the same shit everywhere

[@CanBamBoo]

"If women want more women in films, they should just make their own movies!" *women make their own movies with women in them* You werent supposed to do that!

[@ocek2744]

I think the better reaction is "Now feminism is taking over Hollywood!"

[@emceehawaii7542]

I don't watch a lot of movies or pay attention to Hollywood, but don't most of the big movies made by women often do poorly?

[@isaacwright8211]

@@emceehawaii7542 I think a lotta movies suck anyway... I think it might only look that women suck at making movies because men have had so many opportunities to make great movies that no one can doubt that some men are great filmmakers but women don't have that, they lack opportunities historically so it's much easier to say "every film made by a woman sucks" because there aren't that many films by women

[@1v966]

But in this particular case WoMeN did not make their own movie but parasited on an already existing franchise? I mean, if this was not a ghostbusters remake, literally no one would give a shit

[@isaacwright8211]

doctor rieux not as lazy as the disney remakes so I don't give a fuck anyway

[@thespiceman9367]

hbomberguy deserves a lot more credit for making these kinds of videos when edgy cringe culture anti feminism was the mainstream view online

[@seigeengine]

Not really? If you watch his older videos, this is par for the course what his audience would expect from him.

[@keepcalmandenjoythedecline]

Was? Frosk is still getting her *** ****** for her rant. All the strong independent wahmen BS from hollywood and netflix is getting roasted non-stop.

[@joshyoung1440]

Uh... it never was, I think maybe you were just a bit into that culture yourself when you first started watching him. Cause it's never been "mainstream;" really there's no "mainstream" on the internet. Incel cringelords, also known as misogynists before the internet, while a constant presence on the internet and in real life, and while being so insular that many members may _think_ it's mainstream, are neither new nor mainstream. It's just a demographic man. But no, there was no point when everyone was into misogyny.

[@joshyoung1440]

​​@@keepcalmandenjoythedecline oh no! Incels are still making jokes online! Wow, it is kinda cute seeing you guys think that's a wider societal phenomenon with wide effects hahahahaha nope, it's mostly virgins, and it's still just jokes online (and the occasional mass shooter).

[@GeneralJackRipper]

What do you mean "was"?

[@LifeUntilLove]

So if a film with more women than men in the main cast makes it a 'chick flick', does that mean films with more men than women are 'bro flicks'? Or are those just normal movies?

[@malis9045]

Those are called 'Dick Flicks', I am not kidding

[@user-ny1wo1vp9r]

I think chick flicks are movies that focus on stuff like romance from a female perspective. I don't think anyone would call wonder woman a chick flick.

[@mojavehippie]

Nil S The majority of the cast of Wonder Woman is still male. The protagonist just happens to be a woman.

[@vaiyt]

Welcome to the world of privilege.

[@n0xx295]

A chick flick is not about the number of women on cast, it's about a story crafted to appeal specifically to women.

[@BOFAMET]

T-f00t seems like the creepy priest guy from the Hunchback of Notre Dame movie who was so confused by his sexual obsession with Esmeralda that his only means of dealing with it was to try to burn her at the stake.

[@beesus1412]

holy shit someone needs to do an edit of hellfire with thunderf00t as frolo

[@digitaldeathsquid3448]

THIS BURNING DESIRE IS TURNING ME TO SIN

[@briarrosegael2015]

She will be mine, or she will burn!!

[@pauline9970]

ö Count Frolo?

[@PitLord777]

"IT'S NOT MY FAULT! (choir sings) I'M NOT TO BLAME! (choir sings) IT IS THAT GAMER GIRL THAT WITCH WHO SENT THIS FLAME!" -Thunderf00t, probably

[@Techdeki0]

"I'm lonely and it's everyone else's fault" is the perfect tagline for the alt-right/gammergate guys.

[@ThisguySL]

Mirrors are available for purchase online and in your local shops.

[@thatsprestine5663]

Techdeki0 yeah because anyone who disagrees with you can’t get laid

[@flashmanfred]

That's Prestine - doesn't sound like you're getting laid. I know, I can tell, because I'm not either.

[@chosenrubric7308]

"Gamergate guys" lmfao. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYXPaGCVm5mSm6M

[@medexamtoolscom]

Meanwhile "let's steal everything away from men, observe the vast majority of men are then a bunch of broke deadbeats and whine that there aren't any good high value men around to marry and subsequently divorce-rape, and then blame this problem we caused on men" is the perfect tagline for leftard feminazis.

[@slothmanification]

This aged terribly. Not the commentary, but the need for a bald cap.

[@cuidadocomomatheus]

This video is a prelude to the Great Hairy Migration to the South

[@ideadlift20kg83]

Harry looks cool AF bald though.

[@theawooos3793]

Omg 😂

[@hitojo]

L take

[@blurengo]

​@@hitojowhat, did Harry not turn bald ? are we arguing his hairline now ?

[@Gaviollieo]

Thunderf00t is just unbelievably bad at arguing. I remember he was making fun of Anita's Bechdel Test video. In it, he said she was an idiot for thinking it was a useful or valid test for judging a films quality. Except she literally says this in the video he is critiquing. She LITERALLY says "There are terrible films that pass the test, and great movies that fail it." She actually made the exact same point he did before he even made it. She preemptively refuted him by ACCIDENT. He lost a debate to a fucking pre-recorded video. That is how insanely trash he is at discourse.

[@somegreybloke]

+Gaviollieo And he thinks the quality of a KZbin video can be determined by its likes to dislikes ratio.

[@lovasip]

He even claimed that Anita's one minute narration only video game story summary fails the Bechdel test. A story summary without any actual dialog from a nonexistent game. You know what also fails the Bechdel test? A minute of silence. But he is rational. He also claimed that not all videogames present "concepts of normalcy" because of Plants vs Zombies. Comedy and caricature has nothing to do with the real world according to the renowned pop culture critic Phil Mason. Then showed clips from the Simpsons to make a point about the real world.

[@Zeredek]

+Gaviollieo that's nothing, check out his response to Anita's Beyond Good and Evil video He literally tries to use the game containing violence as some sort of counterargument against Anita saying the game also contains things other than violence No, I'm not joking

[@williamwritepony9322]

+Zeredek Or how in her first video, she points out that in a lot of games it's a male protagonist versus a male antagonist, fighting over a female character (which amidst a lot of "well, duh, Anita, I already knew that" was actually kind of an interesting observation) and pointed out that the opening of Double Dragon was kind of tacky, his response was "well no it's because he loves her!" and then went to ask "What, do you think the protagonist of Double Dragon should have just gone back to washing his car?" It's like... the problem with picking apart these arguments is that they have so much pure nonsense and they're so fucking out there that you don't even know where to begin.

[@milominderbinder2907]

+Gaviollieo Like, oh my gaaawwd. You are soooo smarts. You must have some sort of degree or something. It's inthaaaane!

[@Wintermute01001]

MRAs: Feminism is an echo chamber that squashes dissenting ideas Feminists: *Argue on matters of race, gender and sexuality* MRAs: Haha the feminists are eating each other!

[@Ridgwaycer]

Maybe they mean "eating each other" in a slightly different context? That almost fits better.

[@entertain7us148]

one of those things I've always hated about anti feminist logic is: 1. "feminism is an echo chamber that doesn't allow dissenting opinions." *feminists from many different strands have a dialogue in which they critique each other*. 2. "feminism is a cannibalistic bloodbath!"

[@fy8798]

To be fair, when you're from an echochamber like Thunderf1234t is, any disagreement looks like a bloodbath. I mean, look at the guy. He can't even argue against a generic creationist without falling apart. A generic person at your local pride rally does far, far better against creationists on a *regular basis*. That's WHY he is making videos like that. In videos, people can't disagree, and he can make up whatever argument he wants.

[@Ave_Satana666]

you people demonize to avoid using words and logic. then laugh at people who obviously have mental disorders like flat earthers this video was a real mask off.

[@Ave_Satana666]

how would you know if his points were valid... he skips through them... for instant q:"is everyone's reasoning valid?" A:"we are humans we have the same genome, everyone here has more or less the same genome..." then he cuts him off and says its unimportant. why? sounded like he was going to talk about mental disorders and such that would make sense seeing that the question is if "everyone's reasoning" is "vaild". but let me guess he wasnt the right skin tone for you huh?

[@Ave_Satana666]

well atlest I got ThunderF00t to watch now lol

[@Ave_Satana666]

Futher more people like me and him have stuff to do like the work females act like they are doing. so we dont have time to make our words look pretty if you cant understand what im saying then "Is your reasoning valid" anyway?

[@spaghettiisyummy.3623]

2016 Was a weird time.

[@do3807]

Yupp...

[@adrianmetzler2523]

Totally was/ still is lol

[@MelancoliaI]

It's 2023 and I'm feeling nostalgic for some gamergate culture war type content

[@spaghettiisyummy.3623]

@@MelancoliaI Seeing that stuff is still easy! :D All you have to do is go to a video that was made in that Era!

[@SleepingLionsProductions]

We all want to forget 2016

[@angryyogbuscus1578]

Women=Female Female=Fe-male Fe=Iron Male=man Therefore; Women=Iron Man Women are played by Robert Downey Jr confirmed.

[@reneerabie5585]

I'd seen everything in that post before apart from the last sentence and it truly caught me off guard. Well played. He is a multifaceted actor indeed.

[@oof-rr5nf]

Angry Yogbuscus You have let out our ancient and sacred secret. Get ready to be *eliminated.*

[@digitaldeathsquid3448]

Ah, the Teal Deer response to feminism

[@ProletariatPrince]

ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED!

[@FrankieTheSkin]

Great, now I can't watch Iron Man, or anything with Robert Downey Jr in it, without getting a boner, thanks for making my life even HARDER... pun not originally intended, but once I noticed it became absolutely intended. :-P

[@IamSpacedad]

She spent not ONE CENT on her thought experiment that she said was a thought experiment rather than a real game pitch! FEMINISM IS DEFEATED!

[@low_poly_pain646]

+IamSpacedad Didn't that aruni dude blow some of the money on the sarkessian effect on a new car

[@Dorian_sapiens]

@Ash Kitt Sargon's not doing any patreon shilling today! 😏

[@TomSka]

You had me at ~WOMZ~ x

[@goatpen]

So glad one of the only animators left on this site who I respect enjoyed this.

[@brphoenix]

+TomSka I was not expecting to see you here, TomSka! :O

[@pushon10]

+EdwardMelton He's not an animator. He's even said as much in a video called 'I am not an animator'.

[@ScottJohnHarrison]

+EdwardMelton there is a few more but he is the only one who posts regularly.

[@TheKilgoretroutfan]

TomSka to

[@fingolfin536]

I like how Harris doesn't need a swimming cap to parody Davis Aurini anymore

[@Lyra173]

💀💀

[@cuidadocomomatheus]

hes taking cosplaying to a whole new level

[@stuartp2006]

The set up and joke of: "Logical fallacy!" "There, I've undone it. Are you happy?" "Do I look happy to you?" Is an almost perfect microcosm of the nature of the discourse presented by the youtube right.

[@Dorian_sapiens]

True. Good eye.

[@GrimSleepy]

This psychological phenomena is endemic to the human mind. I've caught myself in similar mental pitfalls from social ideologies. Unless you lack a mind, you have as well.

[@radschele1815]

​@@GrimSleepynach, my guy. Just because you worded it well does not mean you're correct. Being unhappy is not normal, but being happy all the time isn't either. Paul Watzlawick anyone.

[@GrimSleepy]

@@radschele1815 It's the seldomness of happy or good events that make them so valuable. An unnaturally unhappy individual will cherish them all the more than an unnaturally happy individual. Point goes to the unhappy. When things are going well, as they are supposed to be, people tend not to take notice or give attention to the momentary events. It is when things go awry, or in unintended ways, that people afford their attention towards. Which is the same reason that most news is bad news. It grabs attention better. Point goes to the unhappy. A glass that is half full of liquid, through evaporation and other physical reactions, will contain less than half of its contents within moments. Science says the glass is half empty. Point goes to the unhappy. Negative begets negative, positive begets positive. Love and be loved. Be glad to be less than happy, in fact, be downright happy about it! It just means you're a person.

[@Lexi_Zone]

"That gif of her makes my blood boil." My first instinct is to laugh, but I think that would be mean of me. The ironic thing is that feminism is also against the culture of raising young boys into men who feel their blood boil because something threatened or challenged their masculinity. It really does boys a disservice and leaves them unprepared for dealing with basic human feelings.

[@Sleepy12ftPanda]

Speaking of basic human emotions, your icon fills me with much moe. Mad props.

[@Cobalt985]

@@Sleepy12ftPanda moe is one of human's basic needs

[@bruhmomenthdr7575]

@@Sleepy12ftPanda cringe

[@thenotsoamazinggracetnsag3463]

@@Sleepy12ftPanda cringe

[@FormalPeople]

@@Sleepy12ftPanda cringe

[@KennyHazy97]

"Heart on the Proton Pack! These grills don't give a shit about SCIENCE and laboratory etiquette!" Because the Ghostbusters in the first film were so safety-conscious and totally did not get on the wrong side of the federal government for housing unlicensed equipment in their basement.

[@asongforphildaoust]

I definitely sympathized with the EPA guy in the first film. I mean, he was portrayed as an over-the-top asshole caricature of a nosey business-hating tree hugging government fascist trying to keep the honest, kind-hearted small businessmen down, but in the real world I'd be totally on board with the EPA shutting down a bunch of untested nuclear equipment in the middle of Manhattan. By the same token, ghosts aren't fucking real, Ghostbusters didn't understand nuclear physics at all, and in that context it's completely fucking okay to put a heart on a warning sticker. I mean for fuck's sake, Egon made an EEG sensor out of a colander. Is that disrespecting neuroscience?

[@kunou126]

He's still dickless.

[@asongforphildaoust]

As he was portrayed in the film? Agreed.

[@louislaveau3143]

...that's the joke about it. I don't know about you, but I laughed SO hard when they switch on Ray's proton pack and then back away.

[@MMMM-vq1yr]

+Louis Laveau Exactly, now it just seems like they're jumping around awkwardly with these silly looking ghost gun things.

[@MrGod-xw5ed]

the thing of Anita wearing normal clothes and standing in a normal way with a caption making fun of her for going against gender stereotypes whilst still "dressing and posing sexy" makes me think it's psychosexual

[@Malkmusianful]

"OH GOD SHE'S TOO HOT, SHE'S OUT OF MY LEAGUE" - phillip mason, injecting 90 units of insulin into his dicc

[@Friendly_Neigborhood_Astolfo]

Psychosexual?

[@timthememer2785]

'Hey thunderf00t, did you win that debate with Eric Hovind?' 'That is, uh, is a malformed question.'

[@OsmoZchannel]

well it depends on what you mean by "win" and "debate"

[@MrJason005]

A question CAN be wrong! For example, if I ask you "What is 5 volts plus 5 amps?", you won't be able to answer the question, because the question is wrong! Or another example, if I ask you "How do you make a thread from assembly?" (assembly meaning assembly language and thread meaning an operating system thread), again, you won't be able to answer the question, because the question is wrong!

[@notchickens2530]

MrJason005 Easy Q1: 5 volts AND 5 amps Q2: You can’t Checkmate, atheist!

[@MrJason005]

OK, try this one: "Why is Nicola Sturgeon's hair pink?"

[@notchickens2530]

MrJason005 Ermm.... Ahh flip you got me

[@nickrezzonico4846]

"I'm so rational.... I'm rational..." *starts crying* lmfao

[@anduro7448]

you did it , finnaly , you are a rational being son , i am proud of you *tears of joy*

[@Jrez]

I'm rational 😥😢😥

[@nightshade7111]

"This is what a patriarch looks like..."

[@aguywithalotofopinions412]

“Because we’re manly men who don’t care about feelings we’re gonna whine and bitch about a movie because it has female leads for 40 minutes. Because that’s what confident secure men do.”

[@seigeengine]

Assuming you're talking about TF, the video is about five minutes, and it's actually a criticism of corporate pandering, and how that ultimately is self-defeating, but don't let reality get in the way of your screeching about an open border or whatever it is this week.

[@changaescobar2032]

@@seigeengine bruh

[@PresidentOfTheUSA]

​@@seigeengine bruh

[@seigeengine]

@@PresidentOfTheUSA People really be acting like just because you're vomiting shit for a different team that there isn't a stream of foul feces flying from their faces.

[@interiordagoth]

​@@seigeengine Corporate pandering about what exactly? This is a dull remake of an old film it's not like the actors started blatantly repeating feminist theory. (And I would know since I've seen the film) Is it really pandering because there's women in it? If you have a problem with the fact that the movie is a totally unnecessary remake of a classic comedy film from the 80s I wouldn't disagree but as far as pandering this is nothing.

[@entertainedsheep7668]

"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" - Mark Twain

[@remwastaken]

i feel like that statement only works for irl debates with no other witnesses. If you're in a room full of rational people or even better on the internet, anyone with a brain will realise who the idiot is and side with you since you're gonna make sense and they're not

[@aliasofgray2854]

I remember hearing that exact phrase from anti feminist weirdos years back when someone tried to explain anything above basic biology.

[@jankucera8505]

hbomberguy is directly making fun of tf's chatacter and you put this quote here? dude it's about you.

[@User0000000000000004]

"Mark Twain never said that." -Albert Einstein

[@dysmissme7343]

What a great quote

[@bonhll8070]

THREE female Ghostbusters?? ThE femiNisTs are TaKiNg OvEr! (🎵I’m an adult virgin🎶)

[@MaxSnowDude]

Benjamin Hill haha lmao

[@konstantinoskalavrezos5273]

Anakin I told you it would come to this,the feminists are taking over

[@berserkerciaran]

I read that last line on the tune of the Ghostbusters theme.

[@jaws6026]

@@berserkerciaran because that's the way it's supposed to be read

[@q.s.9810]

Same 😔

[@DewMan001]

Even his fans want him to stop talking about Anita Sarkeesian. Imagine when they saw this video in their sub boxes: "Ah, finally! Thunderf00t's gotten back to not talking about Anita! Let's see what he has to say about Ghostbusters." "Remember when Anita Sarkeesian-" "FUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK!!!!!"

[@Maserati7200]

DewMan001 - I’ve been subbed to him since 2007. OG watcher. I never watched his Anita videos over the years, but a few. I even agree that Anita is a grifter whose critiques of video games are banal feminism 101, that she is a moral fanatic whose criticisms are inconsistent and trivial. But I’d rather just ignore her. She has 30k followers on twitter. If she didn’t get all this attention, she’d be even more irrelevant than she is now.

[@theonlyafropuff]

It was so annoying, but enlightening into what type of person Thunderf00t is

[@tshred666]

Maserati7200 it’s not even that the ideas she’s communicating are incorrect, but that she frames them and supports them with very weak reasoning. Tooltime’s response to her series highlights why this is is the case. It’s a framing issue where she fails to fully contextualize the content she’s criticizing.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

Yes, and apparently even the ones with entirely vague and pretentious critiques of Sarkeesian want him to stop, as evidenced here.

[@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus]

I didn't even know about his obsession with feminism when I first encountered his channel. I subscribed because of the science videos and the ones debunking stuff like Solar Roadways. Those are genuinely good in my opinion.

[@SuperMegaPeanut]

"Take only what's important!!" *grabs fedora and skull*

[@Mekose]

IT'S A TRILLBY -HISS-

[@lawrenceredmacher4382]

thunderfzerozerot also has the unique ability to turn a 5 minute video into a 40 minute video by just repeating himself over and over

[@thomasphillips885]

And talking about Elon Musk in every video

[@Krytern]

​@@thomasphillips885The guy is literally obsessed with Elon Musk. It's like he is mad about his success for some reason.

[@numbersstationsarchive194]

@@Krytern It's incredible how muskoids manage to snake their way into every corner of the internet with the sole purpose of calling Tfoot mean names, because that'll totally show him. It's honestly pathetic.

[@Krytern]

@@numbersstationsarchive194 What names do they call him?

[@numbersstationsarchive194]

@@Krytern "Mad about success", etc. though usually the insults are more petty than that. I've actually seen some muskoids insult the length of his penis before. Sad!

[@Maxisamo1]

"Ghostbusters is bad, let me tell you about Anita Sarkeesian"

[@21owlgirl72]

Thunderf00t in generall

[@Vanamutt]

"The trailer for Ghostbusters looked bad and the reaction was used to create an internet shitstorm for publicity, here's an example why it was possible involving Sarkeesian"

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

If you formulate it that way it does sound weirdly like the JW coming to your door "may we tell you about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ"? :D Is Thunderfoot secretly worshipping AS? Is he an AS(s)guy?

[@thevampirefrog06]

Ironically, the guy from the CBSN clip was trying to make a point about how racism has a power element (essentially, "we're all subconsciously prejudiced bc that's what society teaches us, but you can't be 'racist' against white people because they're the ones in charge"), and right after he said it another guy was like "don't say that because someone's going to use it as a sound bite to misinterpret what you're saying." And lo, it was in fact turned into a sound bite and misinterpreted.

[@Toasty667]

Racism is hatred of race, power doesn't enter into it. If I had a black boss and if I was racist I'd still hate them.

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

The guy in question is Frank Luntz. His job is to figure out how to make Republican racist policies sound more palitable to a larger audience. A couple of years ago, he told them to stop using the word "capitalism" because it had become so toxic.

[@MiketheNerdRanger]

@@Toasty667 What you described is bigotry. Racism is systemic; it involves creating rules and policy based on one's race. Racism does have power element to it.

[@blackanimecat2]

@@Toasty667 when racist city planners make a highway to seperate predominantly black neighborhoods with predominantly white ones or build bridges by black neighborhoods that are perpously too low for school buses to pass under, that is the power of segregating black people from better education and resources. Black people not being alowed to get government backed loans in the reconstruction effect their decendants by not having a family owned house for their kids to live in or sell for college money. Its structural and hard to change and hard for people to see even when people's veiws change on how slurs are bad. The racist decisions made by people in power in the past effect people in the present unless perpously changed.

[@targetbuddy5]

@@MiketheNerdRanger Except what you're describing is SYSTEMIC racism, which is a subset of racism, which is itself a subset of bigotry. While many forms of racism are created by systems, systemic racism is by no means the ONLY form of racism, and describing an irrational hatred of the general group of people with the most power in a society as anything but is misleading at best. It's as though you've classified all non-human mammals as solely "Kingdom Animalia" because they're not the most populous mammals on Earth. It is both colloquially and academically incorrect language. Edit: Also I definitely said the word "racism" too many times and now this paragraph doesn't scan. Goddammit.

[@Theboneroomreal]

I actually fell into the skeptic community around 2014 after the whole gamergate scandle and the quinnspiracy and i feel like such a fool now. Videos like these, and the ever increasing right wing nature of these skeptics has driven me away from them. There is no exact moment that i realized i was wrong, it was a slow build up over time and it wasnt something someone could explain to me in a rational argument that i could digest and internalize all at once. It took time, and i had to come to the realization myself. I just wanted to say thank you for being one of the many voices that helped me realized that alot of what these guys were saying was disingenuous scare mongering.

[@Ruby_Spacek]

Thank you for giving us hope! I’m a feminist but I can see how anti sjws have an appeal,it’s a lot easier to demonize others than to self reflect. I’m guilty of this in many ways myself and am always trying to grow and learn.

[@GeekInBelgium]

I don't understand why you'd have to feel like a fool, what happened was outrageous no matter what "side" you were on. On one side, you'd only see people harassing a woman for allegedly having multiple affairs and on the other, you'd see many people you wanted to trust spit at your face and treating you like garbage no matter if you cared about Quinn or not. As a convinced socialist and an avid gamer (to the point where I wrote for a website and was invited to a whole lot of events by publishers), it was complicated. It wasn't the first time I encountered SJW, but even trying to explain what happened during those events would flag me as a right-wing women harasser deserving hate mail, doxxing and death threats on a weekly basis at least. When I tried to talk about the analyses of Sarkeesian on video games to devs or publishers, they would feel embarrassed because they often work a lot and need to cut down many things for a game to be out in time, giving all they have to make it the best experience possible from pure passion and the best intentions, just to be told by some people that their work promotes racism and sexism while they struggle with the publishers for them to make the games how they want. Seriously, the devs are treated like shit on a daily basis (bad working conditions + the old nerd stigma) and having this on top was a huge disappointment for quite a lot of those I met. There are huge structural issues in the gaming industry and I wish we could fix them. When people say we need more women in the industry, I'm like "Sure, why not ?" When people say that we need to find a better way to make games, with decent work conditions like an appropriate staff and give up "Please the shareholders at all cost" system, I'm full on board. In the end, I changed my way of checking things. I listen to the people who are experts in a field, then try to see if their sources hold up to the scientific method. I take an example, Peterson, the guy is an expert in his field, but he tells so many things that aren't backed by actual science that I can't trust him. First, he criticizes the methods of psychoanalysts by saying most of them only want to find sexual trauma in people's past to explain their disorders, then proceeds to suck on Jung's dick even though most of his work is pulled of his ass or he blabbers about the existence of God and Jesus as archetypes, maintaining a perpetual confusion between what is true and what is not. When I want to learn on feminism, I do the same and listen to experts in social sciences, then proceed to check their sources. But in the same way, I often see psychoanalysis papers as a foundation to the works they claim are science. It makes them untrustworthy to me. I have to check on other sources to find something that doesn't rely on pseudo-science, but that rules out many people as untrustworthy when I'm looking for facts, even though I want to agree on the idea that we should be treated with more equity.

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

Don't give up on skepticism as a whole because of the recent trend of youtube skeptics saying terrible things in the last few years. There are plenty of skeptics who don't do that, like Rebecca Watson and Skeptics Guide to the Universe (where Watson worked for many years), and a bunch more. Those are the two main ones I follow (I started following Watson personally after she left SGU), but SGU talks about others all the time if you're looking for more.

[@fehzorz]

Nothing wrong with atheism and skepticism, just ignore the online community of people trying to make themselves look good by picking soft targets and trivial issues, and apply actual skepticism to the alt right. hbomberguy, contrapoints et al are much more skeptical than the likes of Sargon.

[@rob9726]

@@medexamtoolscom bad b8 m8

[@bani4631]

Watching this now is incredibly gratifying. I was once young, on the internet, and discovering atheism. I was also a teen girl. It already hurt so much when I just wanted to watch videos about anime or games and other hobbies that are normal for kids to have, only for there to be misogynist "jokes" inserted in by 30 something year old men making top tens about kids' games like Mario, Megaman, and Banjo. I was also carrying a lot of trauma so the "top ten hottest women" lists were also very uncomfortable to me. This was the end of the 2000s and early 2010s. I can't look back on any of that stuff fondly now. Atheist content was the one avenue I had that was even the smallest bit of validating, as it would often criticize homophobia. When the anti-feminist phase of atheist content swung by, it was scary. All of the feminist talking points they were demonizing actually made a lot of sense to me, but it was met with seething vitriol by the one community I felt I could trust. I just felt ashamed that my first instinct was to agree with feminism. The worst was how angry they got at feminists bringing up sexual assault and how we normalize it, as I was struggling with coming to terms with being a victim of it myself. Amazing Atheist very infamously told a woman she deserved to be raped because she was a feminist. To add to that, the made up fearmongering over false accusations by anti feminists only scared me from saying anything because I didn't have hard proof of things that happened, which would make me an evil "false accuser". Truly vile, I have no qualms saying it was damaging. Thankfully, now I'm still atheist, but also as radical of a feminist you can possibly be lmao. Just want to drop a retroactive thanks to Hbomb for this, though I wish I found it sooner.

[@KasumiRINA]

Remaining an atheist after seeing... The "amazing" guy with the banana and I HOPE chocolate must be some real conviction! XD

[@SilverMe2004]

Good for you.

[@YouthRightsRadical]

@@KasumiRINA Because it is the duty of feminists everywhere to kink shame.

[@LAVATORR]

Fun fact: I posted a KZbin comment on the official trailer saying, essentially, "I'm fine with Lady Ghostbusters as a premise but this movie looks bad" and my comment was deleted. But all the mysoginistic comments surrounding mine? Totally untouched.

[@12171010011010]

Can that even happen on youtube? I know there's like a spam detector or something.

[@DIVAD291]

Ghostbusters wanted to promote the idea that people hated the movie strictly because of their sexism in order to get people who hate "sexism" to go watch it.

[@sethbritton6970]

@@DIVAD291 So, an attempt to do something like the Kuerig marketing thing from Woke Brands?

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

"But all the mysoginistic comments surrounding mine?" It's misogynistic. Why do you even use big words when you do not know how they're spelled? Also: how do you even know that your comment was deleted? The Poster NEVER is shown that their post is no longer visible and doesn't get a notification of the deletion. You did value the chance of deletion so much that you went into the comment thread a second time to see it with a different account or not logged in? If you did not change profiles, there are more than enough explanations for your post having vanished, like it being so far down that you didn't bother to check up on it. Comments do not stay in the position you originally posted them in, they end up down where they chronologically were posted and with a pretty lively thread that would mean VERY far down. Or you did write the post but it failed to actually save. Happens occasionally, especially when the website is busy like it could be with the amount of interest generated through the said trailer. Finally if in YOUR view it truly is gone... you might have wanted to edit the post and simply deleted it, forgetting that later on. Actually with how KZbin comments work that is the only way you would be shown that your post actually has gone.

[@goldxahn5247]

@@Ugly_German_Truths Wow even the worst thing he could've meant making this extreme mild comment wouldn't commence such an aggressive answer ,like Maybe english isn't his first language ? You ass hat

[@Havarti_Samebito]

Why do these tools always think that women disagreeing with each other is "feminism eating itself muahahaha"? I guess it's easy for them to find contradictions when you think the other side is a robot Hive Mind...

[@hemanownsyou]

Gee, I don't know, maybe because it is? Maybe you should tell your fellow feminists how they aren't a hive mind because they clearly didn't get the memo.

[@Havarti_Samebito]

I don't think you quite understand what a hive mind is, my dude...

[@jackcharlotte25]

+hemanownsyou Yeah, because disagreeing with one's ideological group internally OBVIOUSLY means said ideology is broken. It's not as if continuing discussion and debate is necessary or anything in order for ideologies to evolve and prosper...

[@MiketheNerdRanger]

Because anti-fems think that all feminists are part of a collective hive mind, and any sort of descent is tantamount to a wrench in the gears.

[@MiketheNerdRanger]

@@Havarti_Samebito feminism is not a hive mind, unlike the so called "rational" community

[@coolcat001100]

Thunderf00t's obviously got a crush on Anita.

[@robmckennie4203]

Reminds me of the incel crowd. "God I want a girlfriend, I hate women!"

[@KamZero]

Bullshit, he's more in the closet than Tom Cruise

[@TheMidnightdemon]

If he´s that obsessed with her, maybe he should ask her out and go on a date with her? Maybe this would help him a lot :) ... or worsen his obsession XD

[@th3d3storoy3r]

Well I can't blame him for that as she is an attractive woman.

[@javgoblin]

Why is Anita obsessed with fucking up everyone's good time?

[@johnthebarbarian]

Man I rewatched some of the old tf00t and amazing atheist stuff and I cant tell if I'm cringing at them or at myself

[@inkryption3386]

That's a mood. I remember watching it, and at some point I was like "Uh... I guess? Alright yeah, it has to be true, because they're rational, and I'm rational too". Thank fuck I grew up.

[@johnthebarbarian]

@@inkryption3386 EXACTLY

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

at least now he's mostly just focusing on calling out shitty projects?

[@inkryption3386]

@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 Sure, but it's still just low-hanging fruit. Don't need a "powerful skeptic" to tell you that the electrolyzing water bottle or some shit is probably a sham sandwich.

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

@@inkryption3386 sure, for you or me maybe. there's some things that people look at and go "whoa, i wanna throw my money at this!" and wind up feeding the things that Thunderf00t promptly proceeds to disassemble via the science. at least he does it with SCIENCE. better than just "oh, it's bad and an obvious waste" as the lowest hanging fruit. he actually does put the science behind his reasoning behind those videos.

[@MrDaxmortys]

In an age where saying you support feminism on the internet will get you bashed by 100+ angry anti-feminist crusaders, it's good to see that someone has the balls to go against these obsessive fuckers. Thanks for making this video!

[@lynette8299]

Actually there is more; look for Contrapoints, Garret, The Skeptic Feminist... Welcome to the other side!

[@nicklass842]

+Lenna thanks for those names. Sad to see their lack of followers though. But just the fact that someone is picking up arms against these idiots is encouraging. I saw some of these folk (thunderfood and sargon etc) on Dave Rubin's show, and was scared to see them go unopposed in the comments. But then again, no matter how many times Dave says he's a "classic" liberal, it seems he's embracing the alt-right ever more each day. It may be just his choice in guests, but damn I hate his calling everything down the middle. When someone is deliberately lying, call them the fuck out. Sry for the rant, just wanted to say thx

[@MrDaxmortys]

***** Maybe educate yourself from someplace other than Reddit you ignorant crusader shallow fuck.

[@TiaCosm]

That's...not a main issue. It's not even a sub issue. It's something used as an example of men not putting the needs/comfort of others above their own. Issues are things like rape culture, things like manspreading are symptoms. Learn the difference.

[@MrDaxmortys]

AvengingMikon He's already influenced by big youtubers trying to get views on the matter and nothing else. He's beyond saving. Too much Leafy for his own good, poor child.

[@jmm1233]

Tfoot got a major crush on Anitia , and its so obvious it almost 3rd grade cooties level

[@RockBottomRiser21]

Reverse Hey Arnold situation.

[@terrymackamckenzie6865]

He's a stalker and is cyberstalking Anita.

[@NihilisticSnake]

In all seriousness, she's beautiful

[@CharonsNightmare]

+ Steven W his hairdo even somehow resambles helga's!

[@kayeleva9006]

yup and smart

[@Lightningsnowstorm]

Thunderf00t can't make a single video without mentioning Anita Sarkeesian. I'm being pretty literal here. Almost every video he makes mentions Anita Sarkeesian. If I didn't know any better, I would say he likes her or something.

[@1Rekuiem]

I honestly think he has a crush on her.

[@moonie1825]

um no he doesn't, jesus do you people even watch him

[@smygskytt1712]

+MOONIE I think he realised that his videos on bad science was gaining him more viewers and patreon supporters, and so he focused more and more on those things, while at the same time not commenting as much on politics.

[@topwomble]

I'm glad that Thunderf00t got so thoroughly shamed that he went back to science

[@anmolt3840051]

Brexit is when he cut ties with the rabid anti-SJW crowd. He was a remainer

[@littleloner1159]

I used to watch him a couple years ago like before COVID without know this and uh Idk i mean i didn't care enough to put my finger on it but i did end up unsubscribing because something felt really off If he did change good for him tho really hope he did and isn't as in need of being superior in arguments and life

[@kevinwells9751]

I used to watch him a bit in like 2013 for some of his debunking pseudoscience videos, which were decent enough, but then I started seeing him talk about "feminazis" and I was like, "nope, I'm out", and I've been very glad to have distanced myself ever since

[@swegatron2859]

I used to enjoy his science videos, but then I finished college in chemistry like him, & realised it’s all pop science, & it’s more important for him to look right than be right, just like his anti-feminism videos. Bcs he displays a lack of understand of lots of things he comments/explains on but most ppl can’t see that. He’s owning ppl with “facts & logic” for his Paterson subs but this time most ppl can’t dispute his claims

[@BearBoiBlake]

What actually happened was he built up a fan base of alt-right types, appealed to them further with anti-SJW videos, then made the error of publicly disagreeing with alt-right figures like Sargon of Akkad in that he was opposed to Brexit. This made him persona non-grata in the alt-right pipeline so he stopped doing political stuff really.

[@Azerkeux]

If you sold "I'm so rational" t-shirts I would totally buy like, 5 of them.

[@sophiethepegasus]

Problem is, I bet there would be some redpilled dudebros who didn't realise they were sarcastic

[@vicentenavarro1190]

That would be the most rational thing to do

[@Duhya]

I remember when I was a edgy 12 year old who just found out atheism was an option, and watching thunderfoots videos.

[@victorbarraza4910]

same here, I was older tho. Man I'm ashamed now.

[@emotionallyinvestful]

Duhya Idk if I was 'edgy' or not but I too remember those days, thankfully even back then (he was just starting to get into his anti feminist shit) I didn't much care for him so I left pretty quickly.

[@johnjoseph9494]

Stale Bagelz I remember when I was 13 and was basically alt right and I just laugh at how stupid I was

[@jaymiddleton1782]

Jeremiah Michael don’t worry, only 13 year olds are alt-right. It’s like a phase you have to go through. They progress through high school, start meeting girls and switch to libertarian because it’s less intrinsically misogynistic and helps them get more tasty babes.

[@humpymcsaddles3696]

bruh, that was me only at 24 years old.

[@Lurdiak]

It cannot be overstated how insane it is that there are so fucking many videos out there screaming about Anita Sarkeesian. This is not normal behavior for human beings.

[@JoeSixThreeOh]

To be fair, the same could be said for people like, say, DarkSydePhil. However, when all those videos come from ONE person, that's a whole different story.

[@m3llo8an4t0s]

+Lurdiak You know what else isn't normal human behavior? Wearing glasses, using medicine and building machines! Are you seriously suggesting that you'd rather vision impaired people bump into walls all day, people die from all sorts of terrible diseases and humanity never got to the moon? That is quite clearly what you're saying. Let me desribe to you a big number of horrible, painful diseases that can be prevented with the use of medicine so you can see how wrong you are. Look at the statistics (link in the comments) to see how many people would be dead or suffering horribly, right now, if we all followed your ridiculous "normal behavior" doctrine. Are you feeling bad yet, you repugnant, idiotic scum of a human being? Do you finally understand how wrong you are to criticize my right to make 10 million video COMPLETELY OWNING Anita's pathetic sjw agenda-driven arguments? I'm rational.

[@KironVB]

+m3llo8an4t0s Holy shit I couldn't even tell your post was satire until the very end. I was feeling my blood start to boil.

[@hbomberguy]

It's such a masterful post. Love it.

[@m3llo8an4t0s]

Aww, thanks :D

[@ZergrushEddie]

Not exactly one of my proudest memories but I was a real, real, REAL big fan of Thunderf00t back in high school. Yes, I was that guy. The pseudo intellectual who was a B student and thought all my little Christian fellow students were idiots who would follow a false belief in an invisible man: no joke, I once called out a girl for wearing a crucifix because "lawl, would you put an electric chair around your neck?" I didn't even know her name. My steady diet of atheism stuff kept me that guy. And then this Anita Sarkesian character came out, who was just wrong and bad and wrong and trying to take my video games and wrong and bad and didn't know what she was talking about and how she should just stop because what does she know about anything! Why do I need to watch her videos: she's wrong! And my idol Thunderf00t was always willing show the ridiculousness of Anita. I mean, she rails against this 'supposed' anti-woman sentiment by characters being drawn ludicrously sexy but she was wearing a push up bra and had sexy make-up! Clearly this Feminazi was an animal that needed to be shut up! And I CLEARLY didn't have a problem with women because I was a liberal white boy who would have voted for Obama if I was old enough! Sure it is wrong to be sending death threats, BUT, really she's just the worst! I, uhh, came back from a pretty dark ledge. I think back to those times and am just so fucking glad I barely missed red pill. I wasn't quite ready to go along with "women should be silent, and pretty" but I was doing the "how is it fair that women are usually given parental preference in custody battles?!" type shtick. I read back on some of my old journal entries... it is fucking appalling. How weird in this 15 page screed against terrible actors who should not be acting that they just so happen to ALL be women! Or stuff that basically amounts to "the problem with feminism is that women are saying it." Hearing Thunderf00t's voice again talk about "they think having certain sexual organs makes them special" brought back more memories, and emotions, than I was prepared to handle...

[@deffientllynotjalenbutler1736]

As long as you get better nobody is proud of who they were in high school

[@bunnimi]

my boyfriend is in that phase... at 29 years old... I've been trying to explain to him how how he's hurting me by saying dumb shit and agreeing with people like thunderf00t, but I'm really not that smart and I don't know how to analyse what he is saying and point out what I think is wrong. I feel like he's starting to look down on me, because I'm a woman, and because of my silly attempts at making him understand. all the while he's parroting the anti-feminist youtubers.

[@inkryption3386]

@@bunnimi Gonna have to agree with faith reader here, you should dump him. If your relationship is important to him, he'll see how bad he's fucking up; if he doesn't, then he's too far-gone at this point in time for anything you could do to help.

[@alisonpurgatory85]

Yeah I agree, no matter how much he means to you, that MRA shit us mind poison and it could make him worse than he is now and you already said he’s hurting you. Pls get out while you can. The only one who can make the choice to improve is him

[@poiz921]

you grew as a person. be proud, buddy

[@sixstringedthing]

"Mummy always said I was a good boy, a handsome boy. But now I'm in my mid-thirties, all my relationships have failed, and I spend my evenings eating processed cheese slices straight from the packet while weeping into a manly glass of bourbon. Now, let me explain how Anita Sarkeesian is directly responsible".

[@DIVAD291]

""Daddy always said I was a good girl, a beautiful girl,. But now I'm in my mid-thirties, all my relationships have failed, and I spend my evenings eating processed cheese slices straight from the packet while weeping into my 13 cats". Now, let me explain how Thunderfoot is directly responsible"." How does what I just said make you feel?

[@geoffreysorkin5774]

@@DIVAD291 When did Anita Sarkessian make dozens of videos about Thunderfoot? He's the one whose stalking her, aside from reporting death and rape threats to the police, she couldn't give two shits about any gamergaters.

[@goodolmeplant5809]

@@DIVAD291it's not happened the other way around, Anita isn't actively going after him as much as he is for her

[@alicedeligny9240]

@@DIVAD291 what do they all have against cats seriously ??

[@marzipan2555]

@@DIVAD291 lollll youre def the type harry is making fun of

[@moxis9260]

"take only what's important" *grabs skull and hat* I DIED

[@stevethepocket]

Thunderf00t is right about one thing: The reason so many people clicked Dislike on the trailer _was_ because they were angry about feminism. It's almost refreshing to hear someone on his side admit it.

[@salokin3087]

What a strawman...

[@NugicusStreetPhotography]

Or because the movie was complete shit.

[@vee1193]

Pocket Fluff Productions I just disliked it because everyone else was doing it and it was funny :]

[@Techdeki0]

That can be true (it is!) and the rage and fury over it being somewhat unrelated to said badness can also be true!

[@micmac274]

The original Ghostbusters trailer was worse, making out it was a more serious horror movie. Only when I saw it on a top ten at the US box office show did I actually realise it was a comedy. I didn't want my brother coming along (I'm 3 years older than him) in case it scared him at first. They fucked up on that trailer more than this one.

[@darklitebug]

Thunderfoot keeps bees? This is respectable. I will give him one respect for this, and nothing else.

[@inimitableminimalist]

He only keeps male bees though, anything otherwise would be misandrist

[@shawnpepin7890]

@@inimitableminimalist well if you know anything about bees, they are over 99% male by design, so yup, accurate

[@heinrichagrippa5681]

@@shawnpepin7890 And if _you_ knew anything about bees, you'd know they're 99% female. The otherwise useless and short-lived males are born in the mating season, and live for a week or so before they either mate with a new queen from another hive (and die in the process - their dicks literally explode), or fail their one purpose in life and are driven out of the hive and left to die of exposure. Male bees don't even have stingers.

[@shawnpepin7890]

@@heinrichagrippa5681 lol... you are wrong.. and there are many different types of bees... some male bees don’t have stingers, but many do, and are very agreesive... have you ever wondered why there is a queen bee

[@heinrichagrippa5681]

@@shawnpepin7890 I don't claim to be an expert on all bees, but I do know that at least for honey bees, all except for drones are female. However, only a select few called "virgin queens" fully develop their ovaries. The rest are infertile. You might try to argue non-functional ovaries means they aren't truly female, but they're definitely not male either.

[@andrewnovak1390]

All this obsessive hate on Anita by these anti-feminist guys actually makes me wanna watch her videos lolol.

[@medexamtoolscom]

As long as you don't just watch them and believe them in a vacuum of other information. Like when she insists that being a woman is living life on "hard" mode for instance. She's just a smug ignoramus that assumes men have everything so easy because she has no experience being a man.

[@MarchingGrrl]

medexamtoolsdotcom you have no experience being a woman. Guess we’ll have to look at the data.

[@unchpunchem8947]

@@MarchingGrrl that's kinda the issue, is that it's really difficult to see how hard someone else's life is. Everyone by default sees their day to day as harder than someone else's, because they don't experience their day to day

[@TheMellowFilmmaker]

The funny thing is that her videos aren't very radical at all. Her most famous video series was about Damsel in Distress being overused in video games and she says stuff like "just because a game uses this trope doesn't mean it's sexist" and "just because a game is sexist doesn't mean it doesn't have value". It's comical that so many men got pissed off by those videos.

[@ragalyiakos]

@@TheMellowFilmmaker Another thing about that is that she discusses at length many things gamers have complained about in the forms of memes before she came along (like the trope of even high level women's armor basically just being a bikini made of metal, or even less than that). Most of the things she talks about are similar to this. But since she's 1: a woman, and 2: coming at these things from a feminist perspective, her detractors HAVE to disagree with her. Because agreeing with her would make them quasi-feminists, and we cant have that, now can we?!

[@Henpecky]

WHERES ANITAS BEES #WHEREANITASBEES WHERE ARE THEY

[@pervelinn]

WHAT DO WE WANT? ANITAS BEES!! WHEN DO WE WANT IT? BZZZZZZ!!!!

[@riewo]

H OW DARE SHE DOESNT HAVE BEES WHAT THE FUCK ANITA DAMN U

[@llamamall3653]

#BEEGATE2017

[@ZaireXIII]

Still waiting on them bees...

[@lauren5540]

It's been well over a year, where are those fucking bees Anita? #WHERESANITASBEES

[@GretgorPooper]

I think Thunderf00t was rejected by Sarkeesian in college or something and didn't get over it since. That's the only explanation I can think of for this guy's obsession with her.

[@MrJason005]

I think it's something more general. Thunderf00t always gets really cross when bullshit gets money, because he's a research scientist and it breaks his heart seeing money going down the drain when he knows he can put it to a really good use. He's made a lot of videos on pseudo-science and how much attention and money it gets. In the case of Anita Sarkeesian it got the better of him, not only because she got hundreds of thousands of dollars, but because she was using video games and pop culture, giving the sense of no effort being put in.

[@Vasioth]

@@MrJason005 But so what? People make money from KZbin and funding platforms all the time. Anita used a lot of that money on making those videos, making appearances at conventions to discuss the portrayal of women in media in general, etc. If she has a lot of surplus money and she spends it on personal, non-related things to the cause of feminism then that's fine. She's human, it's a job to her, she has personal interests. No one is being coerced into paying her money, her supporters willingly, with their free will, give her money, as does she make money through ad revenue like every other KZbinr. You can disagree with her points all you want, but I just don't get this argument. She's making a living off this. She's not a charity organisation. Thunderf00t just comes across as overly obsessed and creepy with each relentless video on Sarkeesian he releases.

[@MrJason005]

he hasn't really made any more videos on anita, he stopped years ago the peak of it was when she got his twitter account suspended, i think that was the catalyst for the endless stream of anita videos

[@BarHonigfeld]

By that logic he got rejected by Elon Musk 10 times harder.

[@MrJason005]

No Tea Zone Can you link me some of those studies?

[@anthonybencivengo6901]

The fact that he thinks women are distinguished from men by "a different set of sexual organs" says so much about what he thinks of women. He cannot fathom that a female organ (say, breasts) might have a purpose other than his own sexual pleasure.

[@seigeengine]

That's actually a very good way of conceiving of the difference, because anything else is almost certainly a product of sexism. Men and women are for most purposes essentially identical. Also, breasts are a particularly funny example, because human breasts have this odd feature in that they're enlarged seemingly for no reason other than attracting men. Other primate breasts do enlarge somewhat during lactation, but they aren't permanently enlarged like in humans. That is, of any trait of women, you've picked the exact one that arguably does "exist" (in so far as they aren't flat) entirely for male pleasure.

[@RosariaDF]

"that gif of her eating popcorn makes my blood boil" oh god that's just so bizarre, I can't stop laughing about it. Any way I really liked this video and I'm going to check out more of your content. Thanks :)

[@saintdevilsfood7784]

im a scientist dont question my social commentary credentials.

[@AmaranthOriginal]

+CinnamonTwist Fuck that. I handled *bees*. Checkmake, -atheist- feminists!

[@minch333]

+CinnamonTwist ...Unless of course you're a social scientist. Then your social commentary credentials should be questioned. -Thunderl0gic

[@RockBottomRiser21]

+CinnamonTwist Surprised the thundermentalists haven't shown up yet.

[@AlexanderHarris]

What the hell happened to Thunderf00t? I remember loving his videos where he took Young Earth Creationist claims and applied actual physics calculations to them. What a sad fall from grace. : /

[@alexjaybrady]

bingo

[@w00tehpwn]

Same here! I stopped watching when got obsessed with that Christian kid (VenomX or whatever his name was).

[@charlx8979]

to be fair he was never very good at taking down creationists either id just watch aronra

[@RedMan24OO]

HA! Oh yeah, the atheist who says feminism is the only answer. What a fucking joke you all are.

[@charlx8979]

Gerald Kijitskowski oh wow a strawman *yawn* okay, whats next going to say atheists are all communist? cant wait for the next straw man because as far as i can tell the only thing aronra is firm on is methodological naturalism, he never brings up feminism in his videos he isnt like thunderfoot who is god damn obsessed with feminists

[@Thomas-ev4gm]

Thunderf00t was actually how I ended up getting into alt right KZbin as a kid. I love science and watched his cool science videos and as somone I respected for his science I started watching his other videos. So as a kid I was told by who I saw as a smart science guy that feminism bad and for year 10 me that was enough to send me into a spiral where I ended up balls deep in the alt right. All I can say is thank fuck I went to uni and was exposed to literally just 1 other viewpoint that made me think hmm maybe feminsm no bad as what the alt right portrays it as isnt even close to what feminism is. It's funny to think I went from tommy Robinson and trump supporter to basically a socialist thanks to uni and videos like this. Goes to show how important and influential a different perspective can be

[@leon6777]

People will say you got indoctrinated by uni and that schools have espouse SJW propaganda. You haven't, I'm in the same boat (except university, I had some amazing friends that explained again and again why my views were objectively wrong and answered any questions I had) and it's such a good feeling to see other people having gone through this. You feel better for it eh?

[@seigeengine]

Which is unfortunate because thunderf00t is definitely left-wing and not at all alt-right. Thunderf00t is a bit sloppy about his criticisms of genuinely deranged "feminists," for sure. Like, your general vibe isn't uncommon, but consider Thunderf00t had a huge schism with a lot of his audience because of his ardent opposition to Trump...

[@Thomas-ev4gm]

@@seigeengine yeah, he's left wing but his most vocal political views alight with the right. And that's because he probably similarly to what happened with me was intrldiced to things like feminism via the extremist feminists and then just assumes that's what all feminism is. Yeah considering hes a scientist he got sloppy when it comes to researching feminism

[@moleethedon]

@@seigeengine I think he's a centrist because "he's rational and doesn't like to puck one side" lol

[@seigeengine]

@@Thomas-ev4gm Which would those be? Cause "feminism" isn't specific.

[@rowanmcclantoc5418]

I'm a simple man. I see Harris making fun of "rational" people by putting on a fedora, I like. (edit) Sorry, it's a trilby.

[@MrCmon113]

What's the difference between this and rightwingers calling others cucks and soyboys?

[@hayden1351]

@@MrCmon113 usually the racism

[@Cobalt985]

@@MrCmon113 the fact that it's not straight-up projection

[@brittanykidwell9044]

Ha ha Ha I know right! It’s awesome I love HBomberguy’s videos 🤩😍😍😍

[@WALKINGonaSPIRAL]

I'm so glad you exist to make a proper filter to laugh at Tfoot's shit without having to actually sit through it.

[@WALKINGonaSPIRAL]

***** I'm sorry, could you repeat that? All I heard were crying baby noises. I did get the impression this crying baby is incapable of comprehend the irony it spews though.

[@QueenMoontime]

"Equality is a lie" says the guy who's never been on the receiving end of bigotry ever.

[@QueenMoontime]

Marshall Mead Not sure if poe

[@evanever]

+WALKINGonaSPIRAL HAHAHA this can't be real. I've just stumbled into the biggest fucking moron on the internet. You don't even understand what irony is. The guy asked a legitimate question: "so letting other people think for you and copying they'r opinion is a good thing?" There is literally nothing ironic about that. I love how you have to make completely false claims about things to even make a response. You're being spoon-fed opinions by hbomberguy. You don't even watch Thunderf00t's videos and yet you have opinions on them. Then again, they're not even your opinions, they're hbomberguy's opinions. Thanks, I needed a laugh today.

[@jonoc5]

fat if it helps, I've watched most of his videos, and he's a disturbed person in myriad ways.

[@IAmTheStig32]

Does Thunderf00t have a crush on Anita? Absolutely. The foemance is real.

[@pliskin101]

+Yang Xiao Long Anita is my waifu leave her alone

[@Daruqe]

+Yang Xiao Long Ew.

[@pliskin101]

***** NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@silverstarinthesky]

Part of the reason he hates her so much is because he knows he'll never tap that.

[@noble3696]

You're my only waifu bby

[@SovietWomble]

6:09 - I mean, to be fair, that is a seriously malformed question.

[@creativepseudonym9872]

Very true. I think it's the only type of question Eric Hovind can ask- a malformed one.

[@anduro7448]

Not a debate man but i dont see it Is it impossible for a god to exist? as in ”agnostic atheist or atheist atheist”

[@creativepseudonym9872]

@@anduro7448 I don't think it's impossible but based on the scientific knowledge that has been gathered, it seems highly improbable.

[@anduro7448]

@@creativepseudonym9872 same , god could exist , but so could russles teapot most likely not , but we will never know for sure

[@creativepseudonym9872]

@@anduro7448 Not presently at least. At some point we might know with a high degree of certainty.

[@ShootingStarNeo]

Wow, going by some of the comments going on here, I have reason to fear for the comprehension skills of the human race. But if most of them are Old Thunder's followers I'm not really surprised. I'm glad I grew out of my angry atheist phase.

[@GiygasStarman]

What angry phase are you in now?

[@purplebarf]

... video a* liar* and ... three question marks is excessive an ellipses only uses three dots you know like it'd be a debate if y'all were able to debate, my man. Your comment is utter tomfoolery.

[@petercahill6696]

A few things I can take comfort about the rampancy of the angry atheism/anti-feminism on the internet: One, a large amount of these people are just kids, like, teenagers. Sure, there are plenty of new atheists and anti-feminists are adults, but let's face it, as teenagers, we don't always have the greatest reasoning skills. So, I think eventually a large portion of these people would grow up and realize that their views are just bullshit, especially with feminism. Two, I think it's safe to say internet anti-feminists are only relevant on the internet. Like, seriously, the only time when I saw any anti-feminist try to do anything outside the internet was Sargon's petition to ban social justice classes at universities. So, don't worry too much about Thunderf00t and other similar channels.

[@GiygasStarman]

Peter Cahill Prepare to be disappointed then. Also, glad you aren't condescending or anything. Clearly, feminism and religion is the superior lifestyle.

[@petercahill6696]

Navlock I'm atheist and I know the new atheist thing is generally bullshit. Trust me, I was one of y'all once, as well as anti-feminist, and everytime I look back on what I believed, I just cringed.

[@automatontonic]

Thunderf00t is better when he makes videos debunking Kickstarters and theories. He should really stick to that.

[@masterchiefgtxable]

Your wish has been mostly granted.

[@girlykyuu1185]

@@masterchiefgtxable some of the videos of his are intresring but so many are so fucking boring I'm glad I don't even bother

[@DjDolHaus86]

I like the ones where he discusses science (nuclear physics in particular) where he is arguably well versed but I wouldn't touch his social studies vids with a 10ft pole. Stay in your lane mate

[@captainnyet9855]

Agreed, but also he needs to stop stretching videos with 3 minutes worth of content out to 10 minutes; his editing is downright horrendous with all the constant repitition and self-aggrandisement, which leads to even his science videos being damn near unwatachable these days.

[@PokeRapper5000]

@@DjDolHaus86 Does 'stay in your lane' mean that a scientist shouldn't publicly voice his opinion about a movie? Should only those who are involved in the movie industry be allowed to do that?

[@jdnk]

my god that section on Anita is some "how can Al Gore be against carbon emissions when he himself is made of carbon" ass shit "how can anita speak against gender signifiers when she herself exists in a society that genders her expression and actions by assigning meaning to signifiers" nothing gets past this guy, except creationists apparently

[@FamilyQuan]

+Niel Jacoby Al Gore, you hypocrite! LMAO.

[@samueljackson3512]

Niel Jacoby "Genders het expression and actions by asssigning meaning to signifiers" Wat.

[@SioxerNikita]

If you quite literally speak out that gender signifiers are used to oppress women... and that women should eschew those completely... and then you still use those gender signifiers to look pretty and hot for an advantage while speaking... you are... a hypocrite... The argument works fine... I know this comment is 7 years old, but... like... what? Your comment makes no sense...

[@roxef]

11:40 "Brevity is the soul of idiots." Man, hbomb really took that advice to heart.

[@origrammar]

lmao

[@cyphernull6722]

Shitty reboots marketed towards men, like Transformers, make tons of money and no one says a peep about "ruined childhoods". But a reboot featuring women gets more dislikes than any other trailer on youtube. I actually saw the new Ghostbusters movie and it was pretty funny. There was absolutely no reason for Ghostbusters to get as much hate as it did, other than everyone jumping on the anti-feminism bandwagon.

[@garrusn7702]

cypher null How was transformers marketed explicitly towards men?

[@MiketheNerdRanger]

Well there were lots of talk of childhoods being ruined, but your point still stands.

[@carlholm7867]

I saw the trailer and thought it seemed reeally shitty. Just studio trying to cash in on 'girl power' or something. Later saw the movie and was pretty amazed. I enjoyed the characters, they had a few funny moments and overall the pacing and feelgood was pretty similiar to the originals. Not disappointed at all!

[@huckthatdish]

@@garrusn7702 the trailers are just cars, explosions, hot girl, and a rock ballad. Obviously that appeals to some women too, but to pretend like you can't recognize how thats marketed towards our culture's conception of masculinity would be silly. if you want to act like neither of us has prior knowledge of what stereotypes of men and women are in our culture, then feel free, but no one will take you seriously.

[@garrusn7702]

Daniel A Millar This is so cisnormative of you.

[@Phizzy]

This is great, I used to watch this guy's creationism videos a long time ago, but when he started attempting to talk to other people and talking about feminists, it became quite clear how awful he is. I wonder if he's purely in it for the money, chasing that juicy anti-feminist ad revenue, or if he actually believes some of the terrible arguments he's been putting out for the past several years?

[@eakintunde84]

+Phizzy Have you guys ever stopped to think about why there is a growing backlash against feminism? Could it be their ever increasingly nonsensical positions? Or that the fact their increasingly growing political powers has real consequences for the rest of society? I'm not saying Sargon or thunderfoot are perfect but, they make too many important points to completely dismiss them.

[@kenirainseeker539]

+Manny Akintunde What effects on society though? Anti-feminists will often bring up things like the draft, or men having higher completed suicide rates, (which women actually attempt more than men, as well as having higher rates of depression) or court custody stuff, but none of those things were caused by feminism or brought about because feminists advocated for them. Those are all archaic institutions with rules and biases that assume women are too weak to fight, that their primary role in society is to rear children, etc. In other words, they're aspects of patriarchy. (yeah I know you probably hate that word, but deal with it) Feminists try to tear down those very gender stereotypes, the same gender stereotypes that say only men should go to war, that only women should raise children, that only women can get sexually assaulted/raped, etc. Meanwhile, anti-feminists often vehemently try and DEFEND those very same gender stereotypes that cause all of the problems they complain about, saying that it's just how we "naturally" are, that we "can't fight biology," etc. It's almost as if they don't actually care about the plight of men or about solving those problems but rather just to use them as "gotcha" tactics against feminists.

[@eakintunde84]

Kendall Raine I don't see feminists trying to open up domestic violence shelters for men, even when they make up to 40 percent of the victims. Where are the feminist advocating for changing the family court system or ending the archaic alimony system? I can tell you that most anti-feminists(myself included) believe in gender equality. That is equality of opportunity and not equality of outcome. If a woman can prove she is qualified for the position then she should have to have it. The ones that don't are usually traditionalists that want to turn the clock back to the 1950's. On those gender stereotypes or roles. I would argue that we should make it up to each person to choose to live their life. If a woman wants to be a stay at home mom, that is her choice. She shouldn't be shamed for it. Just as if she chose to be a career woman. Same thing with stay at home dads. In our desire to break down gender roles, let's be careful not to shame those who might decide to embrace them. I agree that feminism or the women's liberation movement has done a lot of good women over the years. This third wave feminism, not so much.

[@kenirainseeker539]

Manny Akintunde The problem with the family court system stems from the very thing feminists try to dismantle, that being, gender assumptions/stereotypes. You can't solve the bias in courts until you address what causes it, which is constantly assuming a woman's purpose is to care for children. We need to stop associating child-rearing with "women's work" and make it more socially acceptable for men to raise and interact with children. Not only would that reduce bias in courtrooms, but the social acceptance of men interacting with children would mean less men might feel inclined to abandon their kids. Unfortunately a lot of judges are old people set in traditional ways. Not to mention, things aren't always skewed in favor of the woman. There have been times where children were awarded to extremely abusive fathers. Plus there was a study done that showed fathers actually get custody much of the time if they actually fight for custody, and the reason most women get custody is because the man didn't want it anyway. DV centers for men do exist, however, the problem is that they're never government-funded. It's not feminists you need to convince as much as it is the government that male DV is a problem that deserves to have funding going into it. Lack of recognition for male victims is also not something created/started by feminism, so that's not an "effect on society" by feminism either. It's another aspect of archaic gender stereotypes that assume a woman is too weak to ever harm a man. This hurts both men and women, as feminists often point out. It's an assumption that's existed for centuries, it certainly didn't begin with feminism. Homophobia also plays a part in this, as most male victims were harmed by other men, and as a result, the victims are blamed for being gay rather than actually helped. If you think male victims are ignored now, go back to a time before feminism was a thing, and see how much MORE ignored they were then. They weren't even on the radar. Imagine in 1950, you're a gay man who was just assaulted or raped by your boyfriend, so you go to the police for help. You'd probably be laughed at and then arrested yourself due to anti-sodomy laws for admitting you had sex with a man. I'm not sure where you get your statistics, but the majority of intimate partner violence is done to women, but you're absolutely right that men are victims too. When men are victims though, much of the time the perpetrator is also male, so in these situations where a male is the victim of another male, I imagine it can be difficult to convince that male to go into a men's DV shelter where he will likely be bunking with other males. www.americanbar.org/groups/domestic_violence/resources/statistics.html "Sexual violence against men is also mainly male violence: 70% of rapes, 86% of physical assaults, and 65% of stalking acts were perpetrated by men." Note I'm not bringing up this point to say "men are bad," but to point out that a victimized man might not feel safe in a men's shelter where he's with other men if he's been victimized by another man, which is likely to be true because this seems to be the case for most male victims. If you talk to anyone who's ever been in a homeless shelter, which aren't always male/female segregated, there's a lot of rape that goes on there, so that can be a concern. It could also simply be the case that the government doesn't fund men's shelters because it doesn't view it as prevalent a problem as violence against women, which is technically true, but of course just because it happens less often to men doesn't mean it isn't worth funding and dealing with. If it were up to me, I'd give everyone their own room with locks where they can feel safe and secure, but that would cost a lot of money and nobody seems to like shelling out taxes... Feminists largely don't disagree with you here, either. I've never met a single one that would oppose someone being allowed to be a stay at home mom if they choose to do so based on a genuine desire, and not just because they were raised/groomed to be that way. They just don't want it to be an expectation on women just because they're women, or have girls raised as future housewives just because they're girls, and don't exclude the possibility of a stay at home dad, either. Although nowdays, it's usually pretty unrealistic for poorer or middle class families to do either, given how hard it is to support a family on a single income. Most feminists actually don't advocate "equality in result" necessarily, you might be mistaking it for when they point out huge disparities that means they're advocating for complete 50/50 results. When in reality they're merely pointing out the disparity and suggesting that there may be inequality in opportunity, as you put it. It's not even just as simple as "opportunity vs result" either. Even if women have completely equal legal and financial opportunities to men, there's a social and cultural aspect to this as well that we can't just deny. Young girls are still largely raised a certain way and young boys are raised in another way, and groomed straight from birth to have certain interests based on their gender. Have you ever been to a baby shower before? I'm asking this because it's still rather common for parents to attempt to force very stereotypical gender roles on their children before they're even born. You learn from the doctor that your baby will be born male, and everyone buys him sports items, science things, action figures. Why is that chemistry sets and the like are "boys" toys, anyway? We can't deny this grooming has an affect on the things they decide to do as adults. Boys are often taught that being assertive is good, but girls are often taught to be more passive and told that if they're assertive, they're being "bitchy," which could explain why women are less likely than men to ask their bosses for raises or promotions. My final point is that feminists are not a hivemind. Feminism is actually a lot like atheism; there's not really any solid, set-in-stone doctrine or set of beliefs you have to follow in order to call yourself one. The only requirement for being an atheist is a disbelief in any god or gods, while feminism is even less clearly defined than that. There's no "official feminist church" or any kind of singular feminist organization that is considered the final authority on feminism, just like there isn't any for atheism either, unlike say, the catholic church, that has an official and clear hierarchy with the pope at the top. Feminism is a wide label that encompasses many many different people with completely different viewpoints. I consider myself a feminist, but there are some people who also consider themselves feminists who I would call blathering idiots. There's intersectional feminism, TERFs, etc...it's a pretty wide range of ideals. So it's impossible to really say, "Why aren't feminists doing this or that?" Well...WHICH feminists are you talking about? Because chances are, there are some who ARE doing so-and-so thing, and some who aren't.

[@eakintunde84]

Kendall Raine You might be surprised just how many men in heterosexual relationships are victims of domestic violence. Remember abuse does not have to be physical, it can be mental and emotional. I think both men and woman should be advocating for changes in the family court law. If support gets large enough then family court laws will change. While I agree that parents groom their children to their assigned gender type. It's also important to point out that a child's gender shapes their personal interests to a degree. Girls tend to play with dolls, play dress up and are more social by choice. While boys tend to prefer the typical toys like legos, rough housing and such. Off course, there will be some boys interested in girly things and vice versa. I think it's better to simply encourage children to pursue their interests and passions whatever they are.

[@CaptainAndy]

I definitely think one of the reasons Thunderf00t didn't like The Sarkeesian Effect was because he saw a bit too much of himself in it... and I don't just mean the interview he did for them. It's like somewhere in his subconscious he realised, "This is how sloppily put together and weirdly obsessive my content must appear."

[@m.streicher8286]

thunderfoot is far better at making fun of Elon Musk than he is Anita, he should stick to science, and mostly has, thank god.

[@jepulis6674]

I dont know, the vacuum stuff he pushes is a bit ridiculous. "Is your thermos mug a bomb!!!!!?????!!!" So many real things to critique and he thinks a vacuum irl collapses to same pressure as outside in 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001s :D

[@RanEncounter]

​​​@@jepulis6674 Wait are you actually serious? How are you this lost and yet so arrogant? A vacuum needs more structural integrity from the same pipe because of the outside air pressure. How is this so hard to understand? Also large vacuums are hard to maintain. There is always some leaks, which means a lot of energy used for just maintaining the vacuum.

[@SeaCowsBeatLobsters]

@jepulis6674 I don’t like tfoot, but his elon videos are as accurate as they are needlessly repetitive (very) Vacuum can absolutely crush objects in the blink of an eye and videos of this happening are just a KZbin search away.

[@ProffyChaos]

I agree, I didn't know thunderfoot for anything but ripping the p*ss out of Musk and seeing this other stuff makes me lose respect for him for engaging in the culture war.

[@oldcowbb]

@@SeaCowsBeatLobsters its hilarious Elon fanboys keep trying to find validation in this comment section

[@SinHurr]

It was a bad-ish movie, but I think probably because it had no real script and was more of a backdrop for the comedian cast to play on. Also I don't really remember the villain that well, except that he possessed Chris Hemsworth and had pretty cool if nonsensical ghost powers.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Hemsworth is the villain I guess in the end and he's hilarious as fuck and super sexy. I enjoyed that a good bit lol. It's not a great film but far from as bad as some idiots say... It's fine. Better than I thought considering sony releases dog shit almost 24 7 lol.

[@syntheticteapot]

@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 that's what I thought too. I just thought it was average - not necessarily bad... just a bit average akin to something mindless and simple you'd put on before going to bed or doing some chores to have a bit of background noise.

[@chloe-qs7ue]

it’s not a great movie but i agree, it is funny and chris hemsworth’s character is the ultimate bimbo icon

[@modman4842]

Snl comedies the movie

[@captainnyet9855]

The movie was really bad, but it was released by Sony, so that's hardly a surprise.

[@spinyjustspiny3289]

I like how people are giving you shit over making fun of the people you talk about while debating their points as if that invalidates your argument when the entire point of the subtitle "A Measured Response" is to evoke a comedic dissonance between what the term means and the fact that most of the "making fun of them" is more just reacting to the absurd shit they're saying and passing off as sound logic.

[@3366catch]

yuck wtf did I just read.

[@ds2sofs]

+Spiny Justspiny Don't try to come off as smart by using big words and weave them together in sentences, you'll come off as nonsensical.

[@evanever]

It's all good to throw some comedy in, but you have to actually make some legitimate points as well.

[@Gingertimetraveller]

+Nightowl the only non-tard words he used was dissonance and evoke. Are you really intimidated enough by those two words to leave a comment on it?

[@nathanbruce1992]

Knight Solaire: I understand it just fine. Maybe you have a limited vocabulary?

[@Mauricekaip]

“Is everyone’s reasoning valid?” “No.” “Who’s reasoning is invalid?” “Everyone’s.”

[@psychicbyinternet]

I wish I found this channel instead of thunderf00t's in 2016.

[@Terjecs]

me too

[@Greaseball01]

Theory: Thunderf00t actually has a huge crush on Anita Sarkeesian.

[@Maksie0]

Can you blame the guy?

[@Liquidplasticable]

Thunderf00t @Anitia: Notice me senpai!

[@definitiveentertainment1658]

medexamtoolsdotcom Your comment is not logical. Not at all. Point A is not consistent with Point B. And your premises are not consistent with your conclusion. Also if you’re calling Anita Sarkesian a “4” and calling people “soy boys” you are INARGUABLY incel. And not the voluntary kind. Men who are confident in their masculinity don’t call other men soy boys. Lol 😂

[@unchpunchem8947]

@@Maksie0 Anita is low-key kinda cute not gonna lie

[@rippspeck]

+medexamtoolsdotcom Nice 1995 website you got there, idiot.

[@rhaeven]

I love that searching for "anitas bees" brings this video up as the top result

[@25maxman]

#whereareanitasbees

[@JP-qn2gu]

I'm laughing at myself cause I believed in this shit back in my edgy years. Thanks for the video HHbG

[@Ghost-ss1vu]

And I thought I was wasn't like other girls because I had no friends in my preteens and read books. I'm now a very chaotic non binary person that is doing a theater degree and still can't best their girlfriend at scrabble. I guess society sucks and young people pick it up and internalize this stuff, we as individuals have to move on, grow up and unlearn all poison that we've had shoved down our throats. Anyway don't be to hard on yourself, be happy that you've gotten this far 🙃

[@NonSparkly]

@@Ghost-ss1vu I started watching this and realized that I had a much more strong connection to the idea of tf00t being the 'good guy' since my teenage years that I had you pause it. Either he or I or both have changed in the past 15 years or so, and I don't really care which one it is. Anyways, 'unpoisoning our own minds' is probably going to stick with me for a little bit so thanks for that Edit: typo

[@Ghost-ss1vu]

@@NonSparkly You're very welcome, it just makes me sad when people get stuck hating themselves. Like you literally don't have to hate yourself, it uses up to much energy that you could be using to accept and improve yourself. Also I think Contra-points out it best "sometimes self loathing is still self obsession, and that helps no body", just keep learning is I guess what I'm trying to say ❤

[@pieynot9084]

Yes, Thunderf00t is pretty stupid here. But Feminism is still bs.

[@NonSparkly]

@@Ghost-ss1vu I think my 'shrink' or whatever she officially was told me that a commonly recurring thought is like a valley in your mind, in which the thoughts flow through and in order to stop them recurring you have to exert some sort of force to dig canals away from that specific valley

[@CordyCordyCordyCordy]

I don’t appreciate the KZbin algorithm making me remember Thunderf00t’s existence for the first time in 12 years

[@seigeengine]

Twelve years ago Thunderf00t was primarily making content about Islamic and Christian authoritarianism and extremism. Before that he was criticizing George W. Bush's presidency? I guess you're a weirdo righty, but damn.

[@CordyCordyCordyCordy]

@@seigeengine God, if I am a weirdo righty then I’m doing it wrong, what with trans-ing my gender. Specifically, I remember Thunderfoot not through his videos but someone called Richard “the dick” Caughlan making by videos on him. Of course, I could have gotten the years wrong on how many years it has been - I just know it was in high school. But no, I’m not a right wing bigot.

[@seigeengine]

@@CordyCordyCordyCordy Being trans doesn't demonstrate you're not a weirdo righty. Thunderf00t back then was mainly criticizing right-wing authoritarians. If you were a bit off, he might have been criticizing the crop of "feminists" that got super-popular about ten years ago that were pushing very disturbing messaging.

[@Matazuma]

@@seigeengine and now he's anti elon and trump, maybe life finds a way in the end lol

[@seigeengine]

@@Matazuma I'm not sure what your point is. He was criticizing Bush, he's now criticizing Trump. He was criticizing Anita Sarkeesian and Eric Hovind and now he's criticizing Elon. He's pretty consistently maintained an anti-authoritarian and anti-conman stance. If you find you agree with him when he criticized one and not the other, you might want to examine why you think they're different, and whether or not you've just been sold on the con.

[@TheBrownestFalcon]

WHERE'S THE BEES ANITA

[@chrisiousity]

+Snow Mystique Hornets smile?

[@Davesknd]

+TURBODERP Clearly they are in Nicolas Cage's eyes. Next question!

[@mcj88]

+TURBODERP I think Huey Lewis has 'em all. It's hip to fuck bees, don'cha know.

[@FrankieSmileShow]

I fully expect the skull to appear in every shot of every video from now on.

[@oof-rr5nf]

"Four female Ghostbusters!? The feminists are taking over!" ☡I'M AN ADULT VIRGIN☡

[@JohnSmith-cz9bd]

Holy fuck that movie was 6 years ago... i feel old.. Also, just discovered ur channel. What a gold mine, awesome content.

[@tyboar1926]

we are twinsies

[@voltairinekropotkin5581]

Thunderf00t seems to have some kind of weird and creepy crush on Anita Sarkeesian, which manifests itself in his obsession with attacking her for just about anything. He's like Helga from Hey Arnold - only a skeezy fortysomething bloke.

[@stateofthenihil8352]

The reaction to the Star Wars film irked me too. People kept claiming Rey was overpowered because it was feminist propaganda. And while she did learn the force suddenly, I don't really think it was because she was a woman. I just thought it was sloppy writing.

[@theautisticguitarist7560]

I also felt that, at least in The Force Awakens, you were supposed to wonder how she got so powerful with no training.

[@ComradeLavender]

@@theautisticguitarist7560 Agreed. I was okay with them leaving it a mystery in the first film and expected the TLJ to explain it. I never felt it had anything to do with her being a "Mary Sue." But we all know how well it did that...

[@criticalthinkingconcubus]

Plus Luke learned how to use the force in a few months despite the prequels establishing that it takes decades to master the force.

[@garrusn7702]

Jasmine Donald No he didn’t. It took him years to become a Jedi Knight. He could barely lift a rock before he went to confront Vader. Rey defeated Luke in hand to hand combat and lifted 10 tons of boulders after 3 days.

[@ZILtoid1991]

No mentioning of the video where he called certain forms of rape "just bad sex"?

[@nughh3546]

+László Szerémi Wait he said that?

[@ZILtoid1991]

He made a video where he tried to give tips on how to avoid rape. It's awful in general.

[@TheSamuraiGoomba]

+Tendai Manomano Yeah. Long story short, he draws the line on what is considered rape in a different place than the courts do. What Thunderfoot considers "bad sex" seems to include situations that could be described as Date Rape in a court of law. But you should totally take his advice about sex because he's a scientist and shit.

[@williamwritepony9322]

+Tendai Manomano Video is titled "Teach them not to rape." It's as bad as it sounds. Utterly tone-deaf and shows that he's not interested in trying to understand other peoples' arguments and points of view, but just runs off of knee-jerk reactions.

[@kenirainseeker539]

+TheSamuraiGoomba Well, Ben Carson was a neurosurgeon...and well, that's a man who thinks pyramids were used to store grain. Just goes to show intelligence isn't a single overall scale. You can be good at chemistry and shit, but that doesn't mean you know anything about anything else.

[@skinhead-vasya]

I want to believe that this is what made thunderfoot move from making 100500 videos about Anita Sarcisian to making 100500 videos about elongated muskrat

[@seigeengine]

You know, this video is a load of shit, but even I have to admit Thunderf00t weirdly fixates on individuals.

[@AlashiaTuol]

"Take only what's important!" *Grabs the skull*

[@bagandtag4391]

I ship Anita and Thunder.

[@bagser1]

+Combinemon So much disappointing angry sex in that ship

[@silverstarinthesky]

I get you're kidding but this made me think of those weirdos who ship Jessica Jones with the Purple Man. Eugh.

[@fnord3125]

I ship Thunderfzerozerot and his tear-stained pillow.

[@bagser1]

Llamamall To hell with Davis, I ship myself with decadent sluts

[@hedgehog3180]

bagser1 Where can I order you?

[@nemo5335]

take:: the original ghostbusters is hugely overrated, it was a good comedy film but acting like it's some touchstone of western culture is really goddamn dumb.

[@seelcudoom1]

the theme song was the best part

[@sailorplanetmars6103]

Hard agree. It felt like it was at war with itself - it wasn't willing to be funny enough to be a comedy nor serious enough to be a drama so it ended up stranded in tonal limbo. It's... fine. I'd rate it with other "good idea, bad follow-through" classics like Bee Movie or Chasing Amy, albeit somewhat more competently made than the former.

[@swozzlesticks3068]

Actually now that I think of it, maybe it IS a touchstone of western culture. It's perfectly emblematic of sitting down with your friends, alcohol or weed in hand and having a good time watching a dumb movie.

[@archagenteverlasting1239]

The only thing I like about it is the practical effects. It's only popular in America, other countries aren't nearly as obsessed with it.

[@lucasoheyze4597]

I was never a big fan of the original, but I find the 2016 quite fun...I'm a 45 year old straight white guy too 😆

[@masternerd64]

ironically, Thunderf00t is the guy who got me on the track to de-radicalization. Back in 2016 when this video was made, I was definitely in the anti-sjw crowd. I watched Dr. Shaym, armored skeptic, Sargon of Akkad, shoeonhead, and many others. One of the others I watched happened to be Thunderf00t. I liked his anti-sjw content and stuck around as a subscriber to his channel. At this point, I should mention that I grew up Mormon, and then later evangelical Christian when my family left the church. In about 2018, I started watching his "Why People Laugh At Creationists" videos. They're long, rambling, horrible meme-filled things, but he brought up some important things about burden of proof and basing decisions on evidence. This lead me to have a crisis of faith, and in conjunction with watching and reading a lot of christian apologists, I told myself I'd give the other side a try. This led me to watching creators such as Genetically modified skeptic, cosmic skeptic, and others of the 2nd-wave atheist KZbinrs. One thing I noticed was especially from GMS CS was their focus on morality and ethics. On my journey through that, I learned a lot of my preconceptions about sexuality and gender identity were plain wrong. This caused me to rethink everything I had thought about social justice, and eventually I ended up here.

[@mutedajar9687]

Thunderf00t is a bit difficult to listen to, because all he does is reiterate the same point over and over again, with the same weird image macros and whatever. It gets tiring quickly.

[@cuckoophendula8211]

I know this comment is at least 2 years old, but something that I've always found disappointing about him is that while he's so knowledgeable on many topics, his continual mocking tones would only cater to particular people.

[@cuckoophendula8211]

@ThisIsMyRealName Watch any of his science videos (recently his kickstarter fail videos), which tend to talk about the limits of thermodynamics. I could see this topic being much less intuitive for many people outside of an engineering curriculum, so they do have potential to be very helpful. However, my personal criticism is that he would only want to educate if it meant that he could make fun of people. While I'm sure his audience doesn't mind this, I think my biggest disappointment is that he's never going to reach as wide an audience to educate as say...Veritasium's videos.

[@XMysticHerox]

Cuckoo Phendula there are many better science channels with no far right bs thrown around. Literally hundreds.

[@somed214]

Do you think that Mason just starts ranting about Sarkeesian without even realizing he's doing it as he goes about his day? Like when he's at the grocery checkout, the clerk will say "Nice weather today, isn't it?" and Mason responds with "Yes, and it's supposed to be sunny the rest of the week but Anita Sarkeesian probably wants it to rain because she knows there are men outside and she's dedicated to making all men miserable, just like a feminist!" and the clerk just stops making eye contact but he keeps going and going, getting louder and less coherent as he goes, until he entirely fugues out and security guards have to escort him from the building while he screams "...AND HITMAN DEDUCTS POINTS FOR MURDERING THOSE STRIPPERS SO IT DOESN'T COUNT BUT THE FEMINISTS DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT..." until he passes out in the parking lot from lack of oxygen? And then his ice cream melts, which is Anita Sarkeesian's fault for sure. I do.

[@RottingintheMidwest]

thunderfarts's videos have almost always been composed of about 89.3 percent recycled material from his previous videos and about 10.4 percent new material.

[@minch333]

So so true.

[@RockBottomRiser21]

In other words they're a bucket of fresh shit poured onto a pile of old shit

[@billfluffenstein5129]

What was the content of his first video then? I'm so confused.

[@evanever]

That's because feminists repeat the same shit over and over. No reason to come up with different arguments when your old ones already work.

[@purplebarf]

+fat - Road to 5 subs! Man you really gotta work on your reading comprehension

[@thedogmaticdirector]

Looking back at this discourse years in the future is just sad. I can't believe so many people actively and publicly hated this movie because of women, and not because it was a soulless corporate reboot. Moreover, the vitriol seen here hasn't really changed in the present. People still talk about stupid reasons to hate things today because their "woke" instead of anything tangible.

[@RegalPixelKing]

My issues with it both when it released, and now is how pointless and soulless it seemed, it also just was not funny. Ghostbusters had a very specific style of jokes meaning even if the jokes were good, which they weren't, they still might not have fit the "Ghostbusters" branding that was used for that movie. The second reboot/sequel Ghostbuster Afterlife was actually decent. I mean it was basically 2 hours of fan service, but it was good fan service and I'd give it 7/10.

[@kieranhurst8543]

@@BobCassidy so that's why people made multiple videos about the female cast, because it wasn't about women!

[@seigeengine]

That's literally the thing Thunderf00t is talking about in that video, lol. His primary point in the video is basically "if your focus is on how 'feminist' and 'girl power' you are, your focus isn't on making a good film." It's a criticism of corporate pandering and it's displacement of the emphasis on a good film. The video also contains several other points, including how it's a bad reboot that fundamentally does not understand the format of what it's rebooting, and how it's rather racist and sexist.

[@peterdietrich8810]

By the way, people who actually make games come up with concepts for games they'll never make all the fucking time. Either it'll take too long, they're busy, the concept is bad, or it's just one of those projects you don't do. Expecting a game reviewer to make a game they said they had an idea for is one of the most unreasonable expectations you can hold any human to.

[@HighPriestessIce]

I have never heard of half these basement dwellers until your videos. Good god are they embarrassing. I legitimately feel so much 2nd hand embarrassment that they and their followers are a thing. Men with a persecution complex and some serious mommy issues. Yikes.

[@sqldatabunny]

I fucking lost it at the Aurini impersonation. I love you hbomberguy

[@youforget1000thingsaday]

I'll never forget how grown ass men acted over this movie. It was embarrassing.

[@calluml314]

Thunderfoot is living proof that being an expert in one field does not prevent you from being a complete idiot about other things.

[@TheBT]

+calluml314 True, I think it's called Ben Carson Syndrome

[@apocalypseap]

+calluml314 Did you watch the video?

[@TooFatTooFurious]

Is he even an expert in something? I tried looking for his "rich" contributions to the world of science, but couldn't find it because of all his anti-Anita stuff. Finally, when I found some, it turned out he once did a thing with water and sugar. And it seems he was only an assistant there. Doesn't sound like a great expert to me...

[@williamwritepony9322]

+Арсений Брилёв He's done some physics work and published a number of papers, most notably some stuff on alkali metals. I don't know the full extent, though. Whatever he does in the lab, he's a fucking idiot when he opens his mouth on anything else, be it religion or social sciences.

[@williamwritepony9322]

***** Though not nearly as egregious, I'd also point to Neil deGrasse Tyson and some of his remarks on, say, history.

[@TBTabby]

I can't believe I once looked up to him.

[@Turidus]

Yeah. There was a time when he only made a few kinda nice videos about creationism i liked to watch. But then the shit show started and he became unwatchable, even before gamer gate.

[@BoggiFroggy]

I once did too. We're only human.

[@demongrenade2748]

Same.

[@f1nger605]

He's my go-to example of how fame can turn seemingly rational skeptics into self-aggrandizing conspiracy theorists.

[@heartlessmushroom]

Thunderf00t is indeed right that it is easier to criticize than to create... While spending most of his time criticizing rather than creating something related to the field he is criticizing. Irony of ironies

[@Sivanot]

why the fuck did i used to listen to this man literally i remember watching this video when Thunderf00t made it and just nodding along, what was wrong with me

[@seigeengine]

You were watching Thunderf00t's video, where he makes reasonable arguments, instead of watching a hit piece where a fraud lies to you in order to insult a stranger.