Tier 3 Quests Are Not What They Used To Be in 7 Days To Die 1.0 [Episode #7]

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[@dpowell3702]

Just the right blend of cynicism and world weary commentary for a Sunday evening - nice one mate

[@johnnytieszen]

You should make a series doing what you hate aka build a base from scratch live in it and fight all hordes in it lol

[@spicydeath82]

you should give zombienationFFS a watch. dude builds huge horde bases and maxes out zombie counts. he uses a few minor mods that are mainly QoL in nature.

[@jonfryer7613]

​@@spicydeath82 Do you know what happened to Z? he hasn't posted in like 2 years i used to watch those all the time.

[@johnnytieszen]

​@@spicydeath82you should give Skippy0330 a watch

[@protoblaze77]

@johnnytieszen why should he do something he hates if you've been around for awhile doing something you dont enjoy leads to burn outs and no longer enjoying a particular game the way you used to

[@andreiolteanu7811]

"I'm severely drugged , wanna fight?" LOL

[@alejandrozapataq]

i managed to complete tier 5 in my save and i was really considering not to do missions anymore. When i saw the changes to mission rewards i thought it was very good because it was way too overpowered but now the rewards are so bad i dont want to do them anymore and the higher the tier the worse it gets. And the thing is that pois trend to have worse loot when you are in missions, i dont know why but that something a friend of mine and me realized in the past alpha when double looting tier 5 pois. So i dont see a reason to do missions anymore. And the map generation got really bad for cities since they are always far away and at least in my map only one of them has two tier 5 pois

[@ihateoxycodone]

Exactly i feel like this update made the game worse !!! why would I spend 30 minutes doing a mission just to get 5 steaks or a magazine bundle ..

[@mrrooter601]

did one and screenshotted it just so I could confirm. t5 in the wasteland (1 lvl daring), which took basically an entire day, and I get the choice of .A single first aid kit ."crafting skill magazine bundle" (that has 3 books you will never use or need and are not specced into .a hunter mod schematic that I already read .a single fort bites .a single forge ahead insane.

[@alejandrozapataq]

@@mrrooter601 it really makes you feel like you wasted your time. Btw yesterday i used commands to give myself some xp to get the daring adventurer to max to see what happen, equiped myself with the best equipment using cm and went for a tier 6 mission. guess what? the rewards were similar just in more quantity

[@shikamaze1489]

I used to like the book system until i played Darkness Falls, where there is still a learn by doing system and now i hate the book system.

[@King-O-Hell]

Yeah DF is a better survival experience all-around

[@clownofwar]

It is the superior way of handeling skill gain, i never understood this way of progression, the books are boring a,f.

[@tric30]

Darkness falls really messed up my enjoyment of vanilla. From what I can tell, a lot of DF is inspired by what the community enjoyed from old alphas. Even though I started at A21, I really started to understand the constant criticism of the changes TFP have made since I’ve enjoyed the reverted changes via mods.

[@billymercier7412]

I play Alpha 15 on console and its learn by doing. I play with my brother and I usually focus on base building and let him go exploring. Unless you bring back all books home to other to read, can't no longer play that way. So 1.0 have no appeal to us. Game move from 7 days to die, 7 days to fetch, 7 days to read.

[@bannankev]

⁠@@billymercier7412lmfaoooooo that’s the best line I’ve read about this game in years!!! Went from 7 days to die, to 7 days to fetch to 7 days to read lmaooooooooooo I love it hahahahahha 💜

[@JustChillinOnThe5thFloor]

Prebuilt says TFP won't have a sniper. But the TFP have super vultures, killed vehicles, super rage digging zombies. And probably more that I can't think of. Just let me have hordes of zombies in the open world. It's more scary for me to run into a 30+ zombie horde.

[@OmikronTitan]

I loved the horde night talk. Probably preaching to the choir for some of us, but never stop with it! Might be some bad news, I may have taken some of the universe's luck with the honey challenge and completed it from casual stump removal on my travels. (Last two stumps were back-to-back honey.)

[@tallgamerboy]

First?! Love the series so far, thanks for putting out content even though The Fun Police make enjoying the game harder, tried playing this version, and found the majority of my enjoyment from this update was coming from content creators like you, and not my own gameplay.

[@randomhero6365]

I actually ended the day 7 horde with more ammo than i began with. The bags at the end after killing them all gave me all my 7.62 back and even some mini bike parts.

[@tric30]

The progression in this game gives me the same vibe as Oblivion. On the outside it looks fun, but it’s way too easy to outpace yourself by just playing the damn game that one of the most consistent ways to stay on/ahead of the difficulty curve is to do super counterintuitive strata (not killing zombies, not having your actual build as your major skills) It’s like they had one meeting for like 15 minutes and just ran with it

[@mrrooter601]

wow, a meeting is giving them a lot of credit. I was thinking more like, they passed eachother in the hallway, one mentioned a few things that would make the game worse and not to add them, and the other guy misheard him and got right on adding it.

[@abhishekiyer9617]

YOU SHOULD DO A SERIES SIMPLY LIVING OF YOUR BACKPACK

[@kjmagnon]

Has Rekt always had a tin in his pocket branded "Climax"? BTW I found a legendary item part in a shoe pile, also don't forget the stun baton repulsor mod.

[@Happylachia]

Right next to a croc

[@W1se0ldg33zer]

I got the 'find 5 honeys in stumps' challenge done - I had 3 of 5 fairly quickly and then didn't look again until day 20-ish. Took about half a day of driving around to get the last two. I didn't think it was all that tough to get.

[@kopicat2429]

You can be really lucky and get 5 honey from 5 stumps. Or really bad luck and get 0 from 20 stumps.

[@fivedollarcombo1211]

Progression has always been iffy in 7 days to say the least. I just don’t worry about being optimal and do what’s fun like fighting hordes. That’s not ideal though for everyone so they really should have multiple progression avenues.

[@benceseger7748]

Not just T3 quests, it's T4 as well. I feel like quests got significantly harder (more zombies + health buff) and the end loot doesn't seem like what it used to be. Plus the time it takes to do certain quests and the dukes you get. Idk it feels off. Oh and I also have like 3 points into Daring adventurer, 300% XP.

[@karstengulsrud7297]

These videos are truly comforting to me. I love escaping with the daily prebuilt vid every day. Perfectly cynical.

[@Robbydarkwood]

31:10 people need to listen and learn from this.

[@malpheus4299]

@@sbarceaalexandru1456 Yes but his point is that leveling doesn't remotely benefit your actual progression ingame since the learn by looting change which he is absolutely right about. Leveling just deliberately makes hordes harder for you quicker.

[@fafufafu5784]

I LOVE ACTION LEVEL MODS!!! it makes the game give you a reason to kill zombies other than clear quests

[@Robbydarkwood]

@@malpheus4299 exactly. In the last alpha had radiated zombies by day 14 and demolition. Though I was in the burned forest

[@sithknight7740]

The rant at 31:10 is the exact reason why I play Darkness Falls, and once I've had my fun with Vanilla (Might shoot for Day 100 just for shits and giggles) I'm gonna wait for 1.0 to go stable and then play Darkness Falls once Khaine gets it to 1.0 Darkness Falls is brutal, yet fair at the exact same time. Your actions directly affect how you level (If you beat the zombies with a club or sledgehammer, you level up your blunt weapon skill, pistols - pistol skill, etc). It's a blend of a lot of older Alphas, and I'm curious on how Khaine is going to handle the new armor system bs.

[@engineeringtheapocalypse]

It's so weird... I really don't notice the T-Rex hands when playing but watching videos it's really awful.

[@ninjaexperto7217]

Maybe it´s the resolution of the screen?

[@tremas3329]

2:40 The new armor is feeling very powerful, perhaps a bit too powerful, dare I say it. Heavy armor especially, even low quality, I felt very little threat from a few Ferals and the occasional Rad. And some of the bonuses seem to be insanely good. The nerd chest if you can get a legendary quality is insane for powering through book series that I dont really need till later in the game. I save my first legendary mod for that specifically. Even without speccing into armor, ive been getting enough of the Armor books to max it out early and save other books for when i can make the Nerd chest. Saving up vehicle books for instance I end up needing about half or 3/4's the books normally needed to max it out. I just go up enough to unlock the Minibike and save the rest of the books for when i have a good source of fuel and can make whatever vehicle i need/want. Same goes for whatever weapons, tools, etc im going for once I have enough to make a sufficient one to do whatever Im working towards. Its made me slow down a bit early game and accelerates me to the point I can mostly skip mid-game.

[@mrrooter601]

yep, with armor nothing is dangerous, yet still takes ages to kill. wonderful.

[@James.2006]

Since your doing an intellect build u should put points in daring adventurer since it increases your trader stage and doesnt screw up the book loot table so that way you can get sum better weapons

[@zlatanmorrison8182]

The more videos I watch from YT creators the more 1.0 loses its appeal tbh. It's all so utterly 'meh' and has added almost nothing of interest (other than new POI's which are always welcome). The difficulty spike added to the vastly reduced rewards means attempting tier 2 and 3 infested with a potato gun and a toothpick, no thank you. I am all for challenge but they really have lost the plot with this (imho).

[@W1se0ldg33zer]

I'm using nerd helmet %8 xp, scavenger outfit +4 carry, ranger boots +40 stamina and Preacher gloves +40% damage against the undead. When I get more pocket mods then I'm going to switch to an outfit that helps against critical hits. That's all green armors. Pretty good I think! Love that +40 stamina.

[@bannankev]

Everything is the same for me except boots. I got ones that provide run speed. In case I get caught off guard and gotta dip really quick. I’m always at min 2 into parkour so I can run fast and jump high. No nerd poles for me, just jump to everything. -Luis moving quick makes getting into and out of POIs that much faster. Either way not a bad setup at all. Stamina is always GREAT! 💜

[@bannankev]

7 days to die, 7 days to fetch. Now we got 7 days to read all the books and magazines. 😂😂😂😂

[@wolf3794]

You sound like you've lost all joy in the game. Personally, except for the new controller UI being completely BORKED, I'm loving 1.0

[@TheKenworthys]

I'm going to shift over to being a gargoyle on horde nights...

[@Marxon1134]

This really doesn't bode well for 1.0 yikes.

[@clownofwar]

If this gets released in this state on 25th of juli, it will get nuked on the store page.

[@Marxon1134]

@@clownofwar absolutely.

[@clownofwar]

Preacher gloves with Raider gear and your a freaking tank. The 50%undead damage is a allround modifier and is freaking nuts.

[@Gonadscratcher]

Your comments on the horde night are sooooooo incredibly accurate, game has become FUBAR. Mods on the game are now the only reason to buy the game

[@goatski8054]

So lets just get all the level 6 weapons and tools from quest and be bored by day 20... This is better than what it was before, as far as leveling, it does matter, you can cure sprains with a point in physician, you can jump 2m if you got 2 points in parkour and so on, little things like this changes the gameplay. Sure rewards still need a bit of tweaking but its far better than what it was before being handed literally endgame gear as early as like day 16-18. Game is suppose to be challenging its a survival game.

[@playground2137]

I lost interest in the game.

[@Highwind6001]

No I know exactly what they'll do. Similar to what you said a timer. If X amt of zombies aren't being killed they'll send a ton of vultures like they did if you try to drive away during horde.

[@sethkings]

17:04 the crackhead outside the gas station i go to

[@snakesdaggerlangdale5711]

I got state of decay 2 because it was on sale been waiting ever since your series and I am wondering why I even likes 7d2d

[@slave2truth4freedom]

I love your rants man, they're always on point. The Fun Pimps created a great base concept game that also looks/feels mostly good which is very difficult and impressive. Then they take their impressive success and piss half of it away because they spend all their time implementing and subsequently tinkering with half baked ideas on top of their prize creation. It's like they worked real hard to be able to afford top end steaks for dinner every night and then they cook them well done and cover them in ketchup. It doesn't make any sense and it drives me nuts as well. There's so many ways to design the RPG aspect of the game and they chose such a mediocre route. The new armor system is extremely unbalanced and as nonsensical as the rest of the RPG system. Same with perk books and magazines. It's even more difficult to understand why they struggle so hard with the loot tables and quest rewards. Why is it so feast or famine? Where is the balance concern? The game is really fun and worth playing for some time regardless but it could be truly great with better design direction.(and a performance overhaul) I want to experience each stage of the game(early,mid,late) week by week. Veteran players who are trying to progress should be in the stone age until day 8, iron age until day 15, and into steel by day 22 and end game by day 29. Whereas less progression concerned players may regularly take until day 50 to reach end game. I want to progress linearly and I want the most amount of choices to make possible, no more gating weapons and skills behind half-baked class concepts. Let players be a bow expert and expert miner or use shotguns and be an expert hunter/gatherer or be a stealthy sledgehammer expert or maybe I just want a bit of everything; let me mix and match any skill progressions I feel like. Then just make all the armors niche, right now there are too many armors that are too generally strong(preacher, raider, etc..) and others that are generally weak(ranger, athlete, etc...). At least then the players get to choose inconsistent RPG elements instead of having the developers choices forced upon us. Power to the players.

[@clownofwar]

Before horde night i make i farm enough cash for 5 mega crushes and simply outrin the horde, after they implemented the bird chase for driving of during horde night i was ok drugs it is then. But now they are even nerfing that strat by lowering the stat buff from 100% to 50% they are the unfunpimps at this rate, they want people to suffer and die more in there game most all that seems to be the driving force behind all these changes.

[@kopicat2429]

Honestly wish the challenges gave more game play benefits other then xp. Xp is honestly not that useful as rewards. Would be cooler to get various perma buffs or something from completing some of those challenges. It also incentivizes experienced players to focus on specific challenges. I can't really see myself bothering with those challenges after the first few times, and just forgetting about them. Great for new players and all, but that's all. Heck, as they are, they aren't even all that great for new players either. Since many of the challenges encourages you to gather some materials the hard and inefficient way.

[@Thundeelord2009]

New trader changes are odd for me. On one hand I’m glad they nerfed them so you don’t blitz through the game. However, it was like that for so long that it’s gonna take ages to adjust properly. At least for me anyway.

[@ariesace02]

I watch enough of your video to understand your humor/frustrations. But some time you really don't at like you enjoy this game anymore. you like of sound like Lumbergh from office space.

[@boopearth5697]

The kill challenges once redeemed you get items from the traders like a quest reward btw

[@AlphaBuildz]

Love your videos dude. Been staying up until 1 50am to watch as soon as I can. Keep up the good work!

[@greg5145]

It isn’t just about levels on hoard night. You get a ton of loot. I get 2 legendary parts a hoard night at least, amongst plenty of other loot.

[@alexandriagrimm888]

Some would say thats a perfectly average, if not sizable shotgun. Not me, it does look puny....

[@treed873]

I guess the downfall of standing on a rooftop talking, is a portion of your game is boring to watch.

[@gothaminsanity]

'Why is the shotgun tiny' You set the difficulty to insane, that's what you get

[@Imae08I]

Lol

[@bushman7733]

Yeah this game definitely has gone wrong path, I played console version recently alpha 15 and I actually like that game a lot more than current version, there was a lot of cool mechanics like wellness, better farming system, learn by doing and much more, realistic graphics instead of cartoony is also a huge benefit, I think they completely ruined the game when they decided to add quests with pois and make them dungeon style now all you do is just farm and speedrun them to get op items, the game doesn't feel like survival game anymore which is the worst thing that could have happened to this franchise, if I was on Fun Pimps place I would just entirely scarp current game and revert everything back to alpha 15 and keep developing game from there, because it was peak 7 days to die

[@katcorot]

1.0 is just a crappy placeholder while I wait for Subquake to hopefully update UndeadLegacy mod. One dude has made a massively better version of the game with many improvements on the base game

[@clownofwar]

Agreed UL is the best qol mod on the modding scene to date DF is the goofiest for combat i love both.

[@King-O-Hell]

I love that you blatantly don't play the way they want you to. Lol No sarcasm

[@dragonkillergaming8528]

what are your pc specs if you don't mind me asking

[@garethrasmussen6186]

this game always needs mods to make it good

[@TheLordNugget]

Huh, I've been gaming on a widescreen for a while now. Biggest issue is the image stretching at the sides. I've been able to mostly eliminate it though it still does it to a small degree. I noticed that yours is doing it too and you're just playing on 16:9 aspect ration. Can't help but wonder what your FOV is. Cheese bases still work fine for horde nights. Typical bunker bases are gonna get absolutely demolished though.

[@IzPrebuilt]

My FOV is maxed like a normal person because i dont care if my game that looks like dogshit looks like stretched dogshit.

[@Hamstray]

wow, they totally nerfed the zombie bears.

[@somedude12348]

“I hate it.” -IzPrebuilt probably

[@hidhshsj123]

I hate the vultures they are so effing annoying

[@Gaara7809]

Can u combine stuff at workbench ? 😂

[@xHONEY0BADGERx]

Didn’t realize the stun baton is so op 🤘

[@DeathKnightsAreOp]

yeah questing now seems pretty meh to do, i dont really see a point in going above tier 3 anymore, the increased zombie HP and the pretty meh quest rewards. Unless the end loot from higher POIs is better for getting rarer items like legendary crafting parts, which i seem to have the absolute worst luck getting even with lucky looter and the new looting glasses mod.

[@Elpiotras]

Really?? Im on day 30 i have all tools and armor at lvl6 and 8 legendary parts in storage chest idk what to do with them😂

[@DeathKnightsAreOp]

@@Elpiotras On the server im doing right now my cousin has looted 7 legendary parts, got his first one from a random trash pile on like day 3, i havent found a single one lol

[@kpeleent]

if too much XP is the problem for not doing hordenight, then why not turn the XP gained to 50% ?

[@IzPrebuilt]

it's A problem not THE problem.

[@GrumpyGillsFishing]

Treasure maps give great loot tbh.

[@gasad01374]

All quest rewards suck.

[@kevinsiscoe]

Just wondering, have you played Navezgane recently? That is most likely what a "New Player" would experience, rather than creating a custom world. (I know for me, that's what I played since it's default.) It seems like there's a huge difference between starting in a remote, sparsely populated area vs a city. I think the closest POI is the mushroom mine, which is 400+ meters away. Since there's no close building to commandeer near the trader as a base, nights are usually spent building one. This slowed how fast I could progress to the bike, dramatically. After watching this series, I re-made my world and am much further progressed after starting in a city. Thanks for the video.

[@dirgesheverish]

so... so far what I have gathered is that doing trader quests is kinda pointless now, unless you want to double loot somewhere and traders inventory seems kinda sucky too now. Great... Also, for hoard nights, I think they will just make Zombies do way more block damage in a way your can't turn off during Hoards to prevent roof sitting. Seems like something they would do.

[@JustChillinOnThe5thFloor]

I wish TFP would have a option to remove the 7 day base horde and have it just happen in the open world. I don't really care for base building nor do I care to do the horde night fight. I would be ok with slight improvements to prefabs and walking dead/project zomboid city hordes. But the mods that add hordes of zombies in the city usually solve this issue. As always with every patch I end up downloading a bunch of mods to make the game more to my liking. While TFP are per usual removing options for "their" end game vision.

[@Domaorn]

when i completed "kill cops" and turned it in i was given choices.. i have daring adventurer maxed so i picked 4 leg parts and a crucible lol so yeah technically it was worth the effort lol i agree i do horde in a basic 5x5 3 high with bars around the top.. melee back off and molo them at times.. when i want to if not.. tall poi and cut off all accesses to the roof and wait it out so i can get going on what i actually want to do ive always felt we get cheated ... any one finds a way to safely fight them, they nerf stuff like blocks or remove stuff like spikes or barb wire sheets... in the end we are gonna either have to fight them on foot or in a box sigh...

[@Yogi_Bear69]

I hope they either buff honey drop rate or reduce the amount required to make awesome sauce. 5 honey to make each one?! Ridiculous, might as well just remove the crafting recipe ffs.

[@h4rdc0r3noize]

Been trying to watch this episode for 3 days now, i keep falling asleep just before horde night, not that it's boring.. I just watch KZbin in bed 🤣🤣 maybe I can get to episode 8 this time

[@snootchie3341]

When I first noticed I thought perhaps they tried to make the headlight mod serve a purpose but the motorbike and 4x4 have light from the get go, so it's only the minibike. To get light you have to put in the headlight mod and, as you mentioned, the handlebar recipe requires a light to craft. So they FunPimped our rides...?

[@ImezRuez]

tier 4 rewards are even worse

[@blackmonk6390]

My solution is to have a wide spread on the blood moon hoards. Every 7 days but with a 14 day spread, no warning. I can get one very early, day one, or day 21. I can also get back to back hoards. I just never know.

[@LyricalValor]

8:46 that's what she said

[@radbradmusicartist]

Alpha 15 had the best leveling system. If they could have that system with the content there is now. Id actually play it again when I'm able to.

[@King-O-Hell]

I had to lol at the idea of a sniper killing you if you don't fight the horde. They tried vultures but it doesn't work for killing "roof dwellers"

[@halfasoap1172]

I don't know much about loot tables, but i will say that on day 12 or so i was still getting pipe machine guns from cop cars, but a wasteland tier 1 had a level 5 AK

[@saintuk70]

after all this time, v1 and the "fun" pimps have made the game almost pointless...... bonkers.

[@malguskerensky]

Passive horde night, I foresee further improving the structural AI of zombies so they tear down building faster.

[@billadmond9450]

I also noticed that kiiling too many zombies will make your life much harder. I remember my first 7 days horde was just insane!

[@calvinbarnes1721]

My guess is the FunlessPimps will crank block damage to the moon on horde nights so you can't turtle up to avoid them.

[@Durrtyboy]

I actually like the rewards more, way more book bundles which is nice I think, but iv still got decent stuff for rewards

[@Md936S]

Could you please raise the video volume in future videos? I'm on mobile and it can be kinda hard to hear.

[@xandersendek]

I'm not sure if I missed it or not, but did they fix the glitch with the stun baton taking longer to charge when you first use it

[@gainsongames2486]

I just ran around a field during horde night. Chopped them up with a stone axe. Insane difficulty too

[@rhinox3474]

I agree. I am on day 10 and i always level my intelligence up so i can get 2 rewards per quest which was OP and tier 3 hasnt been good

[@KonflictLegacy]

Man I was really hoping to see a Prebuilt horde base build for this 1.0 stuff it has been absolutely destroying me.

[@mjhrobson]

To avoid vultures. Go inside a brick building with three or four floors and knock out the stairs

[@HatarMyspace]

Not all rewards are bad. The one for killing 50 cops is very op.

[@Highwind6001]

"he said the thing" lol yay 2013 humor never change TFP!

[@ronniezr201]

Love the vids and series thus far , definitely enjoy how you keep it real with gameplay!

[@Zombieknockin]

The new armor system almost makes me not even want to buy the game when it comes to console

[@WATLUHWHITE]

watching you play and playing 7 days to die makes things better

[@playground2137]

I agree with just about all your criticisms on the game.

[@mattoe123]

You should try molotov's, they actually kill now

[@RichardRitenour0522]

We all gotta play our own way, only different not good or bad.

[@scripter2510]

you can cycel backwards without using stamina

[@mrhyde2121]

Chances are if too many people avoid hordes like this they will make it so even more vultures spawn, especially the radiated ones, like they do if you try to ride your vehicle on hoard night, but so far I've only seen you doing it so you might be safe, for now 😅

[@clownofwar]

Scary predictions, at this rate i would not take it away from them. Well more reason to setup some smg turrets and make em face the sky as some makeshift AA guns.

[@CutzMcOnions]

Tbh the 4am shop open is the best change so far.

[@theflyingwhale5778]

8:45 funny that's exactly what my ex said to me

[@spicydeath82]

if you don't build and don't care about the horde night xp, why not just disable the hordes altogether?

[@IzPrebuilt]

Explained in video you are watching

[@nikkisimms8075]

Question: what do you look for when finding a house to ride out the horde in? I’m always a bit too nervous to do that but would like to.

[@IzPrebuilt]

Large flat roof if possible, strong walls ideally, preferably no way to get onto the roof other than placing your own blocks and at least 2 floors tall so things like cops have a harder time long shotting you.

[@halil7760]

PLEASE CREATE NEW HORDE BASE VIDEOS❤

[@mrwallygator501]

Love your channe m8.

[@sorcesscores5366]

The zombie ai has gotten so bad.

[@farty90]

Praise lord Helix