Tiger P Review After the Update 1.20! - World of Tanks

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[@jokanaan2486]

That first battle was just comedy gold, especially the IS 😆

[@gnone4140]

Best part is this guy is smurf account with 56% winrate

[@Kel.the.Bakker]

I usually pen IS 6 out of 8 times no aim, skill about 0 of 8 hahahaha what the hell was that rng, like throwing a dice and getting 0

[@whenpigsfly8178]

So was the second ''Armageddon'' game 18:15 - 19:30, lol.

[@joe125ful]

Russian balance:)

[@ottoapocalypse4412]

Stalin Blessing

[@rlets]

I think you had the true Tiger P experience. Never understood 4 stars for it's gun, total troll, 3 at best even with this buff IMO.

[@costyconstantin3814]

true

[@OneMrAnderson]

For me it seems like some guys have a good gun handling on specific tanks and some guys have the opposite. For me, for example, Leopard 1 feels the same like Tiger P for Skill in the first game, gunhandling wise. I switched equipment and testet everything, but the shots hit everywhere in the circle. It's just depressing.

Funny this. I would agree that that gun is 4*, that tank so far has treated me well.

[@vatuka1570]

“ this tank has great gun “ proceeds to bounce 12th shot in IS😢

[@Cozmoz79]

--- Whenever they say armor will be buffed on X tank --- WG: Just angle your tank. Player load gold ammo: Hehe.

[@АндрейБелозеров-к6ю]

Perfect video, just as I remember this tank, 100%, lol. For me the problem of tiger p isn't the armor, it is the gun. The dispersion of shells is insane, and lack of DPM was horrible. It's still really bad tank. At the other hand, tiger h was one of my favorite tanks in the game because of its amazingly reliable gun. Thank you for the funny video of the first battle:)

[@amongusztav655]

Tiger H? You mean Tiger I?

[@АндрейБелозеров-к6ю]

@@amongusztav655 yes, I mean tiger I. It's project of henshel company, that's why it is also known as Tiger H, just as tiger p was a Porsche project. In game it has no armor, but oh man it's a fucking killing machine

[@doduyle8476]

I had to sell this tank 3 months ago due to the frustration it caused :D and now it got buffed

[@АндрейБелозеров-к6ю]

@@doduyle8476 as the video shows, it changes nothing, so you have nothing to regret:)

[@wdinns]

looks like there is a huge file of soft stats, on German vehicles, when going against russians

[@staramuha]

27:39 *F* for CC-67 for going back to unflip P.43 ter :)

[@novi82]

I don't like this game for such rng, IS had too much of this luck. It hurts to look...

[@serialman1]

Thats how 9 out of 10 games lock a like for me.....

[@scottmurray8483]

It's a disgrace, rng probably calculated on how much money you have paid to WG

[@mackomako]

The problem is the IS has great gun handling for the alpha. Tiger (P) has the same gun handling but worse alpha although more accurate if fully aimed. Tiger (P) is still crap imho.

[@rudolfkeizah4682]

Hes not fully aim cuz reticle mod

[@StoneageVultures]

​​@@mackomako the IS has been the hardest grind so far for me because of gun handling

[@Honzimus]

Play the german tech tree, they have accurate guns in general. 😂😂😂😂

[@LVArturs]

Tiger P has been great for me (before buff), forces to generally play sniping, always there's someone who doesn't know how to pen and bounces front hull. Have triple marked it, unlike IS, Tiger I, T29.

[@edwinparker6732]

55% win rate in my Tiger P, these days I use full mobility setup - improved rotation, turbo, grousers. I had always thought it was under rated; it helps me do something right.

[@Sargatanas2k2]

Not sure why the Tiger P still has 240 alpha with the same gun the Tiger 1 gets 280 alpha with.

[@MegaAlexanderiii]

you should get used to the smaller reticle size, it means the shell landing point will be more evenly spread

[@nephalos666]

Oh look. That first game where every shot Skill takes against the IS either misses or bounces is literally how over 60% of my games go when I'm shooting at enemy tanks!!! Seriously, I'm not even joking. That's why I call it Rigged Number Generation.

[@geerliglecluse5297]

Would be nice to know if changing the improved aiming unit for vertical stabilizers will make gun-handling a bit more playable. Subject for a next video, perhaps?!

[@Geeza-rc9kz]

Aren't vert stabs tier 8?

[@BRACIAKSERO]

Don't worry Skill. It's not that bad. I have such an RNG in almost every second battle and that's why I am not playing and would prefer to watch You playing 😁

[@madogthefirst]

That IS has RNG armor.

[@bazookajoe2625]

That first was like watching myself lol

[@KurtElliott]

Cool, I had to buy the To get P back to get back on the Maus line!

[@favorius]

That IS tank player's father does not work in wargaming. He is a major shareholder.

[@StirbMensch]

Sadly, they forgot to buff the shell damage of the Tiger P, so that it's on par with the Tiger H. I mean, it's the same freaking gun, ffs

[@oldtanker7665]

Nice... looking for "angle" so Super Hellcat fought alone and died, instead going to help him and attack enemy Super Hellcat with him ..

[@emperror85]

Lol, I haven't been playing or following WoT the last few years. But it took WG THIS long to buff Tiger P? Blitz already solved the Tiger P issue half a decade ago by buffing the shoulder and turret face armor so that Tiger P actually has some armor to work with. The lower plate and cupola are still weak spots, so lower tiers can still deal with it. Tiger I still has a better gun, so is still worth playing too. Simple solution, obvious from the start, should have been implemented around 10 years ago in WoT.

[@lepaul26]

1:11 What ??? Tiger P in the face ?! That's disgusting 🤣

[@jasper5878]

Tiger P was one of my Favorites in 2017, When used well she could bully all t7 heavies, She started to really struggle vs T8

[@tracus88]

We shall do something against this RNG mm. The game started to be unplayable, you are missing lots of shots just because the game decided that you have to lose, this is unfair an unplayable!!! WG, please think abut this, I am a modder and I know that all games has triggers and conditions, you are just making this game unplayable with this triggers!!! Even when you are activating reserves or play platoons, the game is triggering and gives you sh!tty mm and RNG, everything started to get fuck3d up just because you are ignoring the fact that you have to make us (the players) happy, not to make us quit wot because of your handicap triggers!!!!!

[@costyconstantin3814]

The gun is not the 88 of the germans, i see that i am not the only that the gun is treating bad

[@silimarina.]

they should have added the same alfa gun (280) from Tiger 1

[@alex.mielus]

But Skieeeeel, there is a gentleman CC who has this saying: "stats of the tank don't matter, until you actually take it on the battlefield and play it". 🙄 And it seems he is right, it's not a conspiracy theory this time 🤣🤣

[@HomeCinemaJunkie]

Regarding the rng in the game. I believe it is weighted to allow for new players to survive a bit longer. I allways check the enemy stats when I miss a lot and allmost always they are sub 47%...

[@_oPhanLong]

And I thought I was the only one who kept missing shots with this tank.

[@dirkk-yh7oy]

I think you missed the Shots because of using the Reticle-Mod!

[@StoneageVultures]

This rng is why I'm just about done with this game. I play very rarely, and when I do, over half of my games are this with fully aimed shots. I'm only average, but it makes games impossible for me.

[@andypandy2848]

Always makes me laugh when people say to aim better. yeah with 25% RNG... lol what's the point.

[@gobartosan5768]

gun handling is feeling like a 3 or a 2 imo because of accuracy troll and aiming time.

[@t3cker254]

Aahhh Tiger P, once upon a time when gold ammo was still gold and not special, and those nasty IS ruled tier7, i loved to smack those p*ussy IS right in the face like there was no tomorrow. Everyone backed up when IS showed up, my Tiger P made them fear the almighty 8.8

[@pikethree]

Skill, if the algorithm has decided you are on the losing team, then you will very rarely win. It's why I hardly play anymore, your videos still keep the dream of winning alive but the owner of WG wants battles to be over quick.

[@pgruszewski]

Disgusting accuracy - nothing changed here, just as I remember it. This gun was always like this, so I'm confused with your good opinion about it.

[@valdecirzimbros9179]

German accuracy... the published stats never tell the true story.

[@snakeplissken1754]

Westfield in a heavy with arty is just complete waste of time. The area you are fighting in has you constantly splashed, missed for xxx damage and stunned (which makes fighting pointless as it's even more of an ring fiesta).

[@dylonlachenal5294]

ah, finally some rng similar to what most people deal with

[@kiwicory100]

Tiger p used to be good then got nerfed now back as it was before

[@josef.martin5174]

The first game is a clear example of what happens when WG says "no". A pity.

[@lanelesic]

My dream come true. Skill playing Tiger (P) :D

[@SlazakGrzesiek-ZootopiaComics]

Sorry, Skill, but 4 stars for gun handling is a joke Or maybe you need to change improve aiming unit for vertical stabilizer with your playstyle

[@InfestationPony]

Oh come on let's just face it: tier 7 suck not of their status, but because they just can't stop facing god-like tier 8s.

[@joe125ful]

Lol that first game vs IS. This prove why Russian tanks are good in reality and in game too:)

[@matepatko3902]

NU Skieeel german buffed tank dont work aginst unbuffed Soviet tank😉

[@exoticdachoo007]

Alright I am just gonna say this as someone who has had... not the best time with the Tiger P lets just leave it at that. The tank to me is still shit. Sure the gun might be better, but just play the Tiger 1 then. The whole point of the Tiger P compared to the normal Tiger is to have frontal armor, so why didn't they just keep the gun stats the same and buff the frontal armor from 200 to 210 and make the MG port 215 because of the additional plating, remove the damn side things that make the tank trash against even tier 6 tanks. The gun would be garbage, but the armor would actually hold making the tank viable in tier 6, 7 and 8 games as a good heavy.

[@M45KY]

Only Tiger I like is the Tiger 131

[@albazar]

that first game sums this tank up.......poop.

[@pen8142]

So far it looks like WG is "rebalancing," tanks, when they really need to fix their garbage RNG.

[@andypandy2848]

funny how some games certain players have an RNG force field. funny or fishy?

[@JaLoK1N]

fine acting my man

[@Alan_900]

This tank is still shi7 but the gun. IS is at a different level, but I cannot think of a worse tier 7 than this... T29? No. AMX M4? No. BZ58, Tiger I, VZ44-1, Carro and 45TP, even O-Ni, all are simply better. Chinese IS2 & BP are maybe worse...

[@Alan_900]

Edit: THE worst tier 7 HT.

[@ivanmarkovic8885]

Such gun behavior equals new keyboard for me...

[@Dariuze]

please get the ADD blocker.. ;)😝😝😝

[@sassysaddles9981]

That first game is regular world of tanks experience, game is RNG dogshite

[@rolyantrauts2304]

Nope its way the game has progressed, predetermined short game for $ I guess.

[@joachimschmitt9001]

Just still a bad tank... ESPEC. you know the normal Tiger 1 gun...... Wot made it bad.. At least against Russian tanks.. 😅

[@LittleMigi]

first

[@marv1nperator]

feels like intentionally misleading when you spam shots never fully aiming and then complaining about it. wait for full aim

[@Pinaman69]

What I see is the game is rigged as ever! Haven't played for months, and won't put money in this " the most rigged online game! "

[@OTOss8]

I had a 60% WR in this hog before the patch. I'm either going to go to 80% with this thing now or down to 40%. I have no idea which.

[@MW-te5fv]

59% before and I'm a 48% overall kinda guy. Not sure what to expect either. I hope the buff doesn't break the spell.

[@frreeebird3504]

First game is how half my WoT games went lately until I uninstalled the other day, bastards at WG 👎

[@nikoladd]

This game gives unlimited possibilities to miss.

[@marekc.546]

When someone is average player this game and that MM when you can hit nothing make me crazy. You can't chillout after work playing this

[@baohungle5410]

That's one bad side of having small reticle. When you're getting bad RNG, it's even worse because you feel like your shots go everywhere but not where you aim. If you have default reticle, you will see those shots as far way from fully aimed and even when you fully aimed, the reticle is still so big that makes you think you have small chance of hitting the target.

[@alanwatts8239]

Everyone gangsta till Tiger P turns into Tiger OP

[@DovahFett]

It was one of the best Tier VIIs in the game before it received its HD model. That's when Wargaming decided to strip out half of the turret armor. I guess it only took them about *8 years* to decide to add it back.

[@SirDaffyD]

Those bounces you were getting Skill, was my night last night, RNG saying F U! Not tonight sunshine. Had 1 game in my SU-130M were at around 100m with the reticle fully aimed in on his front hull plate, and a full green dot, I got the "No Penetration" message 4 times in a row! Not a "Bounce" or "Ricochet", but "No Penetration"!! And he was stationary when I shot at him. When this happens, I know I'm not supposed to win this game. My last 5 or so weeks have been like this. It's just RNG BS! Usually I can handle this to a degree, as I usually do my bit with damage & kills, but after 5 games last night, and only 1 win, where I did bugger all, I logged out shaking with frustration. I was SOOOO close to uninstalling the game. It was that bad a night. I know you can have bad nights, But the last 5 or so weeks have been like this! It's just RNG BS!!!

[@xblastx1956]

I have had the same thing happen many times, everything you talked about. There are some things going on in the game, that everyone experiences, but only the developers know about, and everyone just calls it RNG. To keep the win rate of everyone near 50% you have to tweek things. There's no way I'm a super warrior one game and a noob the next over and over. I finally after playing a long time just decided this is not a game of skill, it's a team game. When tanks work as a team, they can win, when working as individuals, it's a long hard road. Looking at it this way helps, at least it does me.

[@SirDaffyD]

@@xblastx1956. I'm hearing ya xblastx1956. You know it not you but the game, when in one game you can't miss the pixel shots if you tried, yet can't hit a barn door tied too the front off your gun in the next. I know it's a team game, but when that happens, it's nothing to do with team play.

[@Eshelion]

First battle - my typical rng vs russian tanks; also typical game leading to alt f4. :D

[@brunomiguel2591]

Not decent. But certainly more tolerable...

[@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35]

Oh look, thats how my battles go! I aim and miss, they hit me on the move, ridiculous!

[@Fabio-wc6rv]

After this first game if players dont believe this game is rigged in favor of some players it tells us this game comunity is the dummest ever in gamimg world...the way IS evades all.shots tells everything

[@Fabio-wc6rv]

And is not bad luck...its stupid yo say.that or i just have bad.luck in all games i play in wot because all games all enemies my tanks do what your tiger p did in IS

[@MikeMohawk]

RNGsus said no! No matter how close you are to the enemy or how "good" your aim is: No means NO! NOT going to happen. This is Not a Skillbased game by more means then one ;) Keep it up buddy!

[@VosperCDN]

That rng in the first battle was horrible, just never seemed to go anywhere it was aimed. Glad to see this buffed though, as it was definitely left behind when Tiger I was given the ROF buffs years ago.

[@ColMarcusMaxwell]

Love how they listed all buffs in the article but forgot to mention aim time got worse on Tiger (P) 🙃

[@sytricka3318]

No it didn't. It was 2.78 before the patch and it still is 2.78

[@fireshorts5789]

Didn't get worse, it was always garbage. Probably WG's way of balancing it cause the armor was actually strong like 10 years ago.

[@laszlopap8271]

@@fireshorts5789 Yeah... All theese buffs are nice 'n' all BUT why the flying F took it 5-6 years for WG to make them??? Tiger P was like the "textbook freefrag" for many-many years... Just another example that they know EXACTLY what should be done, they just absolutely dont give a cr@p about it...

[@thomasbna]

feeling like playing an accuracy troll gun... this tank is cursed

[@Fabio-wc6rv]

Talking in curses in a rigged manipulated game is ridiculous

[@Fabio-wc6rv]

But i dont get suprised...america created a war in ukraine and with all facts in front of their eyes people still think is russia fault...with this game is the same...we see the game is manipulated but people try excuse of luck or unluck or cursed...lol idiots

[@alpeace888]

SKIIIEL! Are you still using the smaller aim circle mod? Then thats probably why you feel like the rng is trolling you, remember that the shots often go all the way to the edge now. I think it takes a while to get used to, am struggling myself. Makes you wanna snapshot alot more than you should.

[@DLG49]

The 8,8 is cursed because my jagdtiger8,8 sometimes it decides not to act right some battles and my shots go out the aim circle.

[@BroncosoftGames]

I realize that aming time is trolling you, you have to aming completely

[@piaskonator2535]

3:40 wot moment

[@maxsun8810]

1) Sub-caliber projectiles against the IS turret. 2) Half the time you didn't wait for the gun to be fully engaged. The game deceived you only by 50%. The other 50% is yourself. I saw in first battle the good behavior of the gun. It's not perfect, but somewhere between "average" and "good".

[@gdema2856]

This is the Toyota Prius of wot from historically point of view

[@loonowolf2160]

Delete lefh, delete 4005 and 183, add Ukraine 🇺🇦 tanks, nerf all soviet tanks to oblivion, limit tier x arty 1 x team, limit 279 chieftain and any other reward tier x tanks 1 x per team on match, disable rewards tanks on competitive only tech tree and premium tanks should be allowed, support Ukraine 🇺🇦. Delete ebrs tanks, amx 103 was the alpha light tank before being replaced by a clown car, let people blacklist has many maps they want, stop nerf Italian tanks and read the data better before doing bs to spaghetti and meatballs tanks, bring back reward of merit, bring back race game mode of 2019, add the Ratte P 1000 and P 1500 on the game has bosses, bring back old winning and defeat soundtrack

[@MikeForFreeSpeech]

why not tell the real reason.. in this battle there was wargaming "balancing game experience by altering game mechanics" so you just had -25% on every parameters, so your equipments and skills was nullified by randomly controlled game mechanics in your disadvantage,,... than they expect every average joe be so calm professional. But hey, they have invested in chat filtering mechanism to find and punish those they do not behave as calmly as you did.. but you nailed it at the end ""you got scammed" wondering by who?,, wargaming? lol Second battle yo was not fighting directly russian equal opponent.. so you actually penetrated... numbers.. numbers .. question is who decides how numbers behave..... in whos favor...when.. answer.. wargaming 1 player 0... nice play and nice videos tho

[@chris_hisss]

This looks like the old switcheroo, buffed paper stats, nerfed hidden stats. 1 battle maybe unlucko but you had three bad battles, that handling needs to go down in stars, while protection goes up. I don't remember the gun ever being so horrible. I bought it because I assumed it was better because I saw thumbnail on this video and now I feel very mislead. It has BZ 176 levels of aimtime. Damn I hate this game sometimes.

[@Dougie-ex1ov]

That first game no joke is how my guns handle every fucking game. It is messed up, glad its not only me. But to see him react like hes not used to it makes me wonder. They do fuck with RNG for some players. I have about 50% hits of where I aim like in these exact situations this is exactly what my gun does fully aimed. Not sure why that is for me but there you go. And doesnt matter what tank I play.

[@mdellyd]

you threw the first game by not helping your FULL HEALTH hellcat. You just let him die for NOTHING.

[@neox464]

The first game was not special regarding gun accuracy, Tiger P accuracy is always like that. If you don't aim fully it always misses.

[@johnascroft8738]

First game is a typical 'rigged' game. 5-1 down at the start and then huge number of misses and bounces, nothing works.

[@maxsun8810]

Passed this tank after your video. I call him Tiger Paper. Because everyone always punches in the forehead.

[@jarvisdx5132]

Attempts to showcase the formidability of the Tiger, instead we're all wanting to play the IS :D

[@DS-wl5pk]

They’ll literally double armor but can’t double gun handling? Not even a single dispersion statistic?

[@JimBob-ly6er]

There is no buff. Played this yesterday and mr BZ penned for 800. Rocket tanks ruining the game.

[@bloodmoney88]

yeh, nah, this... I ground the tiger P when I had to do 4 different grind tanks to "elite" the P... games too easy now.

[@johnsamson9889]

Combine that gun performance and how slow this tank is, I can see some real stinker games for Tiger P.

[@joe125ful]

Needs those cheeks on hull buff and side armor to angle always penend by 122Mm guns.

[@xavierzlotorowiez316]

new code : any time a german gun aim at a russian turret, accuracy drop by - 50%, penetration by 100%

[@britschmenn]

Gun is same funny random-clown as 4 years ago, when I played this thing last time..

[@xskalibur3538]

this is tiger p in this first game its just all about this tank. But the tiger 1 is twice if not more better then this pill of kacku

[@citylumberjack9169]

I kinda liked the Tiger Pee before the buff ... I'll have to try it again now.