tiktok keeps romanticizing serial killers...

[@bryncallahan1144]

People really be like “I can fix them”. Honey NOOO

[@katie.jane.]

FR😃🤚

[@Blossom-q3k]

They're so weird 😭

[@mitskiswashingmachine]

@@kpopsolos you're the one they're talking about huh

[@svftystrange]

BFFR BE FUCKING FOR REAL

[@Palomaaa3]

The only think their gonna change is his kill count

[@stan_6992]

Imagine logging on to Netflix as one of those family’s and seeing this show and all the memories just come flooding back 😐

[@starrygoodnights]

The families werent even told about the series either its so upsetting 😕

[@moistwrmonastring1017]

I heard about one of the mothers in an interview talking about how she never signed off on the series and how inaccurate it was 🙁 it’s awful! How can you make something knowing it will cause multiple people so much pain…

[@idk4721]

@@moistwrmonastring1017 That’s the thing, most of the times the families do sign off on these series for the money. These series are inaccurate though, and quite fucked up. If people want to learn more about these serial killers I would say watch their tapes instead it will give more accurate information at least.

[@j3ss.j]

@@idk4721 they probs didn’t ask as they wanted money, knowing the families probably would of said no as its purely based on dhamer for entertainment, not education. If they said no Netflix wouldn’t of been happy as they would of lost money opportunities. There is already a ton of documentation on dahmer (tv shows, movies, etc) so why make another one? Netflix has gone to far now.

[@sophiaplayzz9932]

that would be so awful people that think hes hot need to hear what he did its so sick.😥

[@Barfigarfi]

The most disgusting part is that the family of the victims were not made aware of the show being produced whatsoever.

[@LilyG27]

ikr it’s so messed up

[@qibli7812]

Netflix is such a shitty company. Like, you can't make a show abt smt that affected so many ppls lives in a negative way without telling them. the least you could do is tell them. *the least.*

[@Aris_universeR0cks]

That’s just messed up

[@user-xs2ww3dw6n]

And there were things in the show that were changed from what actually happened.

[@Juliet-ow1wy]

People defending the fact that Netflix didn't tell them make me feel physically sick

[@chlover_]

it genuinely scares me how people can simp over serial killers like wtf

[@shezacookies]

IKRR ITS SO DISGUSTING PEOPLE NEED GOD

[@chlover_]

@@shezacookies they need a therapist, holy water, the lot of it💀

[@sole9177]

imo, if the person is attractive, whatever honestly. But that doesn't gustify whatever they've done in any way. My point is, people can do really shitty crimes and still be attractive, on the other hand people who simp for murders knowing what they've done is so disgusting omfg

[@_Lmttz]

@@sole9177 Yh a serial killer can be attractive but no one should be attracted to such a horrible person that traumatized tons of families

[@Vamprqe]

Not saying it's evan peters' fault in any way I love him sm he's such a sweet man, huge fan of him, but I think him being attractive playing Dahmer was one of the reasons teen girls don't know that they can simp for evan and not for dahmer it's kinda odd. Gotta admit I heard of evan from first watching dahmer (and I'm glad cz Evan honestly is the first celebrity ive ever liked for longer than a month, excuse my rambling) but I actually had the brain cells to piece together that I found the ACTOR attractive and I got into movies and series he played in, ahs, kickass etc. I'm so glad I didn't go down the path of other people, yk, them liking jeff dahmer and I'm now currently a fan of evan for about a year and 8 months. That was unnecessary I just thought it was cool as I normally forget about a celebrity after a month Anyways what did we learn today? If you're finding yourself watching a reenactment of a REAL LIFE serial killer and you think to yourself "he/she is kinda hot!" Maybe google the actor but if you still find the ACTUAL serial killer hot, uh, idk get help?? 🤷‍♀️

[@kurapikakurta503]

the amounts of dahmer thirst traps ive gotten is absurd and im sick of it 😃

[@Tanatopraxia_n]

damn

[@definitelynotblaze]

Me too

[@andrewpropst1071]

Same bro

[@AreYouForReal607]

Ikr same

[@nicolesstudio743]

I haven’t gotten any am I lucky

[@malaysiastarr1286]

its so disgusting that even after knowing what these disgusting killers did, people still choose to go crazy over them. its so disgusting and I feel so bad for the families

[@G4briell4]

It’s fine to be attracted to the actor BUT THE SERIAL KILLER?! Society is messed up.

[@gargiverma3185]

exactly like i get the appeal for evan peters but jeffery dahmer ??? hell no

[@Etensine]

I know this is old but I couldn't even bring myself to find the actor hot cause he was still playing the role of the literal real life serial killer. People that were finding the actual killer hot was literally shocking.

[@TURBULANCE___AHEAD]

people scare me sometimes.

[@BookObsession2024]

REAL LIKE ROSS LYNCH IS A FINE BADDIE (I LOVE HIM SO MUCH) BUT IF YOU LIKE DHARMER YOU ARE THE MOST DISGUSTING PERSON

[@Arandomsimpsonsfan]

IVE SEEN PEOPLe SIMP OVER DYLAN KLEBOLD BEFORE😭

[@eden5236]

What I found so sad about the show is the fact that they didn't contact the families about the show, and they also used the actual Polaroid of his victims

[@starrygoodnights]

the fact they used the actual polaroids is fucking disgusting, so is not contacting the families. I hate netflix sm

[@nonexistent3030]

They used the actual Polaroids?! So the families just saw their son's/brother's/cousin's *mutilated* corpse in a *NETFLIX SHOW* ?!?!

[@supergachastudios9730]

@@nonexistent3030 OH MY GOSH!

[@ameliaspowart8837]

I’m a true crime fan, I find it interesting how their brains work and how they can commit these disgusting things but the fact that some people are attracted to them is something I’ll never understand. I’ve known about Dahmer for years and the only reason all these videos are around now is because he’s suddenly relevant again. In a way it’s a good thing, bringing awareness to the victims, but it’s also giving more popularity to disgusting criminals. 😢😢

[@Iloveocs]

Exactly

[@dinahsaur7999]

I'm also a true crime fan, and I agree with you. There's no need to give more popularity to criminals we already know about. No one needs awareness about Jeffrey Dahmer. Everyone knows who this dude is and what he did. Even if they don't know all the details, they know he was a serial killer. It's just completely unnecessary to keep putting out these dramas of popular serial killers played by celebrities who are attractive (Zach Efron, Ross Lynch, Evan Peters). The celebrities that play these serial killers are the reason (apart from obvious daddy issues/lack of therapy) that people are making these disgusting edits. All they're doing is re-traumatizing the families of the victims and for what? Just to give us info we already had before? It's just disgusting. They truly don't care at all about the victims because it's just about Dahmer.

[@ameliaspowart8837]

@@dinahsaur7999 exactly, it’s just romanticising the whole thing. I’d love to see a documentary or something about just the victims, there family’s, jobs interests etc. and not bring their cause of death or killer into it.

[@Char.805]

I am also a true crime fan and I think that people who thirst trap serial killers are psychos I’ve had a crush on Zack Efron since the greatest showman and if you don’t remember he was in a TV show or movie about Ted Bundy but that doesn’t mean that I have a crush on Ted Bundy

[@Sturmgeist899]

as someone who has had a hyperfixation on dahmer ever since i was 10 id say i agree also the netflix series is very confusing if u dont already know alot ab dahmer but i dont think it was that dramatised as everyone says i think its more accurate then most podcasts/ytvideos id say

[@JaylaisAwesome]

I can’t believe people are actually having crushes on serial killer, it’s downright disgusting, and it shows that they don’t have sympathy for the victims or the families.

[@distant_tearsofawaterfall]

it’s goddamn evan peters. i know he wouldn’t want it like this and, but he’s fucked in the head now from simply filming that show and the poor man has edits of his trauma. and the families have now a film of the worst piece of their life. it’s absolutely ridiculous.

[@Arandomsimpsonsfan]

I’ve seen it all at this point I saw one simping over Dylan klebold One of the columbine shooters

[@zozochelo_5575]

The way I clicked this video so fast because this is what needs to be talked about🤷🏾‍♀️

[@anaamado748]

Fr

[@vyouyoute]

right!!

[@wifebeatwr]

right. the way people think this is ok is disgusting

[@nancyiscoolaf]

literally

[@unaliv3urself]

Ok I've seen videos of this THERE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTOR WHO PLAYED JEFFERY DAHMER NOT THE ACTUAL SERIAL KILLER OMG 👁️👄👁️WTH IS WRONG WITH Y'ALL he killed innocent people

[@SandC_Sturniolo]

Andrew tate should’ve acted for Jeffrey cause their would be no edits except for ppl hating on it💀

[@lx3nnyv]

YESS AHA

[@PrincessMaiMai]

Truee

[@solarspowervocalsoutdidyou8594]

Nah we'd have teenage boys calling him a chad

[@UrFav.DeafRedhead]

FR

[@NoahIsAqt]

@@solarspowervocalsoutdidyou8594 that would be amazing ;)

[@aleenasayed1313]

I heard something like this:“Those who romanticize serial killer would be serial killers, but they don’t have the guts” Just some perspective (this was from a psychology major)

[@lol-wy9zs]

They probably don't wanna go to prison lmao 😭

[@unaliv3urself]

Ok I've seen videos of this THERE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTOR WHO PLAYED JEFFERY DAHMER NOT THE ACTUAL SERIAL KILLER OMG 👁️👄👁️WTH IS WRONG WITH Y'ALL he killed innocent people

[@aleenasayed1313]

@@lol-wy9zs yeah 😅

[@lag8085]

@@unaliv3urself they’re* also yeah some people are simping for the actor that’s still weird though considering the role he’s playing. but there’s also people actually making videos about the actual jeffery dahmer 🚶‍♀️

[@aleenasayed1313]

@@lag8085 yeah it’s both

[@koixruu]

The fact that Jeffrey physically repulses me and yet still people simp for him makes me want to be sick

[@lolidva3807]

OMG

[@strawb3rrymilky]

Me

[@soleilem]

Some of the victims families aren’t even okay with this it’s honestly sickening

[@Peachessssss13]

Dahmer had actually always had a huge fan base for whatever ungodly reason

[@artery8972]

So did ted bunch and the night stalker 🥲

[@lol-wy9zs]

@@artery8972 bundy*

[@LilyG27]

WHY

[@taskedwithmediocrity]

fr, i remember people on tumblr in like 2014 were always talking about him and bundy (and, like, the columbine shooters and other school shooters) it was insane

[@chlover_]

people are just messed up istg

[@dalighlah5960]

My mom was murdered in a very gruesome way…so now I simply cannot handle true crime and all these murder shows,it will make me physically Ill,and will legit have panic attacks

[@cydneybell-su8pg]

Im so sorry for your loss that sounds horrible. Im praying for you and your family♥

[@soupguy5243]

that’s awful and i’m so sorry, you and your family are so strong for dealing with your loss , i hope life has been kinder and gotten better for you

[@tillyct8937]

The thirst traps are honestly disgusting but one case which I will always fight for is the menendez brothers whom murdered their parents after life long abuse: sexually, physically and mentally I've watched the trial and all the evidence clears proves Erik and Lyle, the brothers stories. They were given life without the chance of parole. This case I found on tiktok and completely agree with people posting videos about them as long as they are informative.

[@luv4catalyst256]

agreed. the menendez brothers is honestly a case that breaks my heart. what they did is unforgivable but we know why they did what they did. and even then, only videos i wanna see about them is informative

[@simp4hadvar]

the menendez brothers fan edits rub me the wrong way (i used to get them on my fyp all the time). regardless of their circumstance, they are murders. they should be treated as such. i'm all for their early release, their sentencing was undeniably excessive. but like the fan edits are inappropriate. i know some of them are "informative" but even most of those still feel like blatant romanticization

[@ieatchildren67]

I watched this case with my dad a while back, and I was sick after. The way the mom did nothing, and neither did the nanny when the oldest brother told her when he was a little kid. There was so much evidence proving the brothers' true yet they still got ridiculed and called liers. It breaks my heart.

[@tillyct8937]

@@simp4hadvar videos that inform you. Like trial clips or explaining evidence

[@apersonorsomething8705]

I went down the true crime rabbit hole and the Menéndez case always made me so sad. Of course, murder should never go unpunished, but life sentences without chance of parole?! I don't think they deserved that much...

[@MinaPregent-s1u]

People who are attracted to serial killers are almost as sick as the killer. Almost. HOW could someone like such a horrible person???

[@Taehyungmain]

Not even therapy will probably change them

[@starrygoodnights]

theyre fucked in the head ngl. I think people that romanticise these killers are almost as bad as the killers.

[@lailaa.jonesss]

I agree with Ben on the torture instead of death penalty part

[@getosqueen4747]

It's so sick how people wake up one day and are like "He can eat me!!" etc, that type of shit like......this man was DIGUSTING. Not even worthy of that word.

[@PeytonWatt]

There is this girl in my grade that made a shrine in her locker about Jeffrey it was so gross it honestly makes me so sick

[@MinaPregent-s1u]

What 😐

[@emmamartinez9365]

“Get like Ed Sheehan to play Jeffrey dahmer. Nobody would be making edits at that point” 😂 I’m dying. Ben why are you always going after Ed

[@em6352]

💀💀💀

[@zeff8820]

Nah, real Jeffrey Dahmer was attractive

[@emmamartinez9365]

@@zeff8820 mmm he looks like a chicken with a mustache and glasses. its giving chicken little

[@zeff8820]

@@emmamartinez9365 he did horrible i know, but he wasn't ugly looking, in fact he fooled people since his first court appearance because of his looks.

[@zeff8820]

@@emmamartinez9365 some people don't believe he was a killer with that looks.

[@greeeen_bean]

i’m 14 and religiously watch true crime. it’s so interesting to me and like. i’m desensitized so i listen to it when i wanna multitask. but seriously if you romanticize them that’s different than interest

[@aireanaconner6152]

I think it’s different for me I think the ACTOR is cute not the real person 🤨 does that still count

[@recreatio]

@@aireanaconner6152 like evan peters? or just evan peters acting as jeffrey dahmer?

[@aireanaconner6152]

@@recreatio just Evan peters. I’ve always had a little crush on him before he played Jeffrey

[@recreatio]

@@aireanaconner6152 that's fine. I mean, as long as you're not romanticizing the actual jeffrey dahmer, I don't see an issue.

[@txtallydti]

@@aireanaconner6152 I personally have no problem against people like that, like you can find Evan peters attractive. But Jeffrey Dahmer himself, as in the actual killer that’s disgusting. And being proud about it is even worse.

[@bryncallahan1144]

I really needed this, my week has sucked. I hope everyone is doing good ❤

[@MichelleBarrett-wj2wp]

I feel so bad for the people who are the victims in these horrible murders.

[@CaTiNtHeNiGhT]

My sister keeps trying to get me to watch it. But I can’t. Once I had kids I stopped listening to serial killer podcasts and watching shows or you tubers who profit off of others horrible experiences. It is just all too real for me. Can’t do it.

[@cartmanaintslick]

Coming from a true crime fan, I especially enjoy learning about the way these people's thoughts and minds work. One of my favorite cases is Dahmer's, but I think in no way they should have made this show. It doesn't really show the victims. Half of the show is just Dahmer's life before and after the crimes. I also hate that the show became as popular as it did because it shines a new light on him and creates a new generation of "fans". People who lost their son to Jeff don't deserve to have to go through this again. They also never notified or asked permission to Dahmer's family or the victim's families to make it.

[@theprophecyofdia]

Ben is literally the only person who can talk about this and get it into peoples minds

[@WW.STAYvlog]

I’m able to stomach a lot. My parents tried to recommend Dahmer to me and I was just kinda like 😮😊 “no thank you” I would not be able to watch something like that, and the sheer fact that the families of the victims didn’t sign off on the series being made is just… I’m speechless

[@emmag1636]

i think it's always been kind of a thing. many serial killers, like ted bundy or O.J. Simpson, used their good looks to create a status that they could hide behind to escape prosecution. it makes me so mad because the people simping for these serial killers are not only being insensitive to the families affected, but blatantly displaying how easy it would be for them to succumb to those killers methods of capturing victims. I could go on a whole rant about the "I can fix him" trope, but that's for another day. I also think that once people started to actually detect a pattern, they went for it. you can't convince me that certain creepypastas like jeff the killer haven't contributed to the craze. there's also american psycho becoming more popular. i'd talk about joker too, but a lot of the people who relate to those kinds of media are sigma males that, again, i could rant separately about for a long time. those people relate to the killers in a way that makes them seem like they want to be like them, not date them. american psycho as a book made a statement on killers and the culture surrounding them, but the movie wasn't executed properly, and is now a graphic display of seeing what people can get away with, played by a very conventionally attractive young man. i liked watching it, but nobody can deny that its popularity on tiktok hasn't added to everything. there's also true crime podcasts. listen, i love a good, respectful and thoroughly researched true crime podcast. one where there is empathy and an understanding that the stories told aren't just stories, and have an impact on people- yes those podcasts exist. but most of these can be really dehumanizing so yes. hollywood, for taking anything for clout and casting the hottest people possible. the internet, for seeing troubled people and fetishizing the idea of fixing them or being the exception to their bloodlust. and also years and years of the privilege of more conventionally attractive murderers getting away with shit. it all adds up. and i could say more, haha- like actually i've watched so so so so many video essays on stuff like this! but i haven't finished this episode yet and i don't wanna repeat anything you might've said. in conclusion, yall are insane.

[@glitchtrap_gaming6577]

I’m lucky I’m not like that. I’m on your side on this one

[@Mynameistotallynotabadword]

Ben: Bully your local serial killler romanticzer! Also Ben: *Smiles pyscotically*

[@saramalecka458]

I still can’t believe people are like this

[@beatrix2099]

In my view, the concept of bullying someone for romanticizing over a serial killer is not the best option, because if they are “psychotic” and adore a person for their crimes that means that your life, family and safety will be put in danger and that that specific person will try anything to achieve their “idol”’s goal…

[@orteney.]

8:35 RIGHHTTTTTT????? bc honestly if these weirdo’s (serial killers and their fans) were caught out on how weird they were earlier and were bullied THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY STOP BEING FLIPPING CREEPS

[@dinahsaur7999]

or they might explode with anger and go on a shooting spree

[@nyxbedumb1369]

i love true crime, and you hit the nail on the head with the empathy thing. personally, i'll be disgusted by the things i listen to, but i can just go about my day, and that's because i have low empathy. that's not everyone, however. some are just genuinely interested in seeing what goes through these killers' minds and what leads them to do such horrific things.

[@Joemamarides]

This is honestly so disturbing...😰 Why just why!?

[@Averyaa_67]

Stop normalizing serial killers 👇🏽

[@alesia6731]

Honestly I blame Netflix for all of this

[@prettyhatemachinexoxo]

You don't even gotta be chronically online to find interest in Jeffery Dahmer, shit like this has been going on for years im sure that even in the time Jeffery Dahmer was around, there was still insane fangirls. 😭 I hope these people get help

[@anukriti7511]

yep I remember reading about Richard ramirez years ago and how many fangirls he had who wanted to be with him, who wanted to be abused by him, who were writing letters to him and PUBLICLY fangirling over him like full on making posters trying to get his attention when he was being taken to court etc even back then.

[@SSO.WRLDDD]

@@anukriti7511abused by him??? Thats fucking wild💀

[@Sageeex]

My friend and I literally had a conversation about this yesterday Can't believe this continues to happen

[@al1ce_908]

It actually disgusting that people do this.

[@ankles5978]

i’m so glad you talked about this

[@sun904]

''i want him to cut me up!!'' like girl no you don't...you wouldn't be saying that when you become a victim of a murderer

[@Vamprqe]

@@sun904 real also wasn't he gay?? He went for men as his targets never women from what I know so even if they were infront of him ion think he would do anything

[@fairy_garden]

i am a true crime fan and honestly when i hear some things i can live my life but other cases when i stay sad all day like the emanuela orlandi one, so it depends

[@even8653]

@@aleenasayed1313 saying that girl and stating a fucked up case that happens way too often… you explained that in the worst possible way

[@dinahsaur7999]

Yess. Honestly, some cases are so bad that it stays w/me for like a week. Just in the back of my mind, I'm thinking about the tragedy, and I'm just sad. So, that's why I have to take breaks.

[@abbycadabby975]

any case where someone is murdered should make you sad and ruin your day because its a tragic and horrific event. pls dont allow yourself to be desensitized to the pain of others 😢

[@TiyanaCasey]

@@abbycadabby975 People literally die everyday. That would be so mentally exhausting

[@abbycadabby975]

@@TiyanaCasey I said murder did I not? and yeah, it should be exhausting, because its horrible

[@justapeacha]

I think Netflix is just using the "do victims justice" card bc if you want to do them justice maybe don't make a show and leave it alone. Not only that they didn't even ask the victims family's permission to show their court case, and they all were very upset

[@majestictrooper2980]

Dude it make me SICK that people do that on tic tok like bro idc if he is attractive he is still a KILLER

[@Nojokeimyourmom10]

Fr he ain’t even attractive either 💀

[@TiyanaCasey]

Dahmer no, Evan yes

[@Nojokeimyourmom10]

@@TiyanaCasey true but he ain’t attractive when he plays Dahmer

[@naitacat962]

@@TiyanaCasey what does evan have to do w anything??

[@stormy3758]

@@naitacat962 he’s the person who acted as Dahmer

[@Bingbongq]

Evan Peters said himself that he wasn't trying to romanticize Jeffery Dahmer and it was more for the victims they chose him for the role because he has Jeffery Dahmer's facial structure..

[@jkhourshed]

Wait what

[@definitelynotblaze]

It's scary bcz it's not even like edits of just appreciating Evans acting it's legit them like "omg Jeffery Dahmer😍" nono let's not romanticize serial killers now hun

[@georgethefossil5857]

I believe it too, like why is it that a person who was accused of stealing a gummy bear being tortured in prison, while the serial killers are getting like a week then just getting put out of their misery?!

[@not_maddy15]

People are sick for forgiving someone who would kill people and make them pose in ways that were “s3xu@lly pleasing” AND THE FACT THAT HE TOOK OUT A WHOLE F_CKING RIB CAGE OUT OF A POOR BOY AND TOOK A PICTURE

[@amelie4066]

It’s actually disgusting that people find serial killers attractive in anyway, shape or form. So disgusting omg.

[@dollbowz]

i've been in a lot of cringe fandoms online over the years but i'm grateful to have never gotten caught up in all this, i always thought it was insane even at my most mentally ill. the worst i ever did was reblog some sexy tate gifs on tumblr but it was because i was a big evan peters fan, not so much tate

[@corleavanstaden8238]

It's something to like the actor that plays Jeffrey but romantizing the serial killer on his own and the crimes is so different and disgusting

[@addison1742]

I hate when people do this like it's disgusting.

[@Yumiko.LUNA_IRIS]

I found these comments where they were like "I cant just hate him, I miss him, I forgive him," LIKE WHAT?? PEOPLE FORGAVE HIM??

[@NKceller]

Yes

[@Charlotte_scarlotte]

They're just insane,I think they just wanted to be brutally fuck up by a murderer

[@eshal1.]

that’s just so concerning what is society…😰

[@ellenobrien4989]

It’s not actually as complicated as it seems. Some of these actual killers are mediocre to higher than average looking, and this ‘trend’ has hooked in a lot of usually girls/women, plus some of these people obsessing over them have weird or extreme kinks etc. and when they’re admiring these people and making these edits they’re not usually seeing it as seriously in their minds as it actually is. (This is just what I’ve taken from when I’ve spoken to them). So if people can do this for the actual killers when an attractive actor is cast as these criminals the whole ‘bad boy’ fantasy kinda goes through the roof in their minds. Idk how to explain it but I’ve seen quite a few (girls particularly) with this obsession

[@rudollphh]

As a true crime listener…WHAT THE FAWK

[@dinahsaur7999]

same

[@ilovepenis12]

be honest. if ed sheeran played jefferey dahmer, there’s probably someone who would still make an edit😭

[@diddler0467]

OFC

[@mazzyfangs]

Love you Ben, CANT wait to see more podcasts! 🎉🎉🎉

[@agneskarlstrom3944]

Whenever I’m done watching or listening about a murder, I never think they affect me but then I find myself walking around feeling almost like empty the entire day and looking over my shoulder

[@Lilacil]

I watch true crime to try to come to terms with the world we live in, the way I see it, if someone had to live through something horrific then the least I can do is acknowledge that kind of thing happens. Many people, understandably so, choose to ignore the terrible things that happen but I do think people can stay safer if they're honest with themselves about how dangerous our world truly can be. I DO think though that these topics should be handled with way more care & empathy than they often are, however.

[@dinahsaur7999]

This is such an interesting perspective! I never thought about it like that, as someone who also watches true crime. But I have wondered while watching these videos is how one decision, one interaction, one meeting with the wrong person can end someone's life. I often wonder what the victims felt and what their last thoughts were in their last moments. It always makes me feel pretty down...

[@TrapNoticiasArg]

Mmm i watch a lot of liveleaks when i was young. It defenly open your eyes. The worst ones where car accidents then random killing, terrorist attacks and cartel killing. But the worst cases are those that you know the person (the true crimes tipe of crimes) and those typically arent record and are the worsts stories about betray abuse manipulation. So sad.

[@TrapNoticiasArg]

@@dinahsaur7999 what really sink my stomatch is stories about parents killing their child. I think women kill more in that aspect and its terrefying thinking about a mother doing that to her children. And what get me sometimes is when they do it to start another life. I dont get it. Just sad.

[@Musicismyheart877]

I know someone who feels bad for Jeffrey Dahmer more than the victims it’s so ridiculous

[@nau3561]

me

[@Musicismyheart877]

@@nau3561 you actually feel bad for Jeffery dahmer

[@nau3561]

@@Musicismyheart877 yeah he deserved better

[@Musicismyheart877]

@@nau3561 what do you mean he Deserved better

[@nau3561]

@@Musicismyheart877 a support network

[@randompersonh]

whats truly disgusting to me about that man is he preyed on black boys/men, and the police would sometimes hand the victims back to jeffrey because they are so racist. they dont even care. also sa’ing dead bodies is absolutely disgusting. . stay safe guys :(

[@horang-idle]

that is so upsetting wtf

[@kelseasettles3113]

It was actually all races. Anybody he thought was attractive 😐

[@kelseasettles3113]

Funny how only the black victims matter to you. Not the underage Chinese 14 year old boy. Or all victims including yk ALL races

[@randompersonh]

@@kelseasettles3113 yeah im sorry i havent actually watched the documentary, ive just heard about it

[@Moonstxrlvr]

Most of his victims were people of color

[@cloover-jg5zd]

The part where you said that the serial killers should be tortured reminds me of when nietzche talked abt people being generally violent in nature and enjoy suffering but as a society we have groomed ourselves to realize that its wrong and not to act out but we also deem the same violence to be okay when it is morally correct.very weird things we are

[@tatelangdon_dotbaeex]

The only fine man they should be talking about is the actor. NOT the serial killer.

[@Charlotte_scarlotte]

True.

[@norahstefora]

24:24 "dying is easy,young man living is harder"

[@ashlumos]

the thing is, most of the jeffery dahmer edits now are a lot more tame then they used to be. that sounds stupid, but people ACTUALLY used to edit the COURT HEARINGS of jeffery dahmer and ted bundy. not only that, they would edit flower crowns on top of their heads, or quotes saying they were “misunderstood.” i remember seeing someone post on tumblr saying that one of ted bundy’s victims was a bitch because she got away from him and testified against him. people who are infatuated with serial killers have an actual mental disorder and NEED help immediately.

[@Iknoweverything-yc4wx]

Fr, and most people who were killed didn’t get the justice they deserve like Junko Furuta

[@nazzysdaisies]

tysm for posting Ben!! Ur videos always make my day and i’m always VERY happy when you post.

[@RibbonHorn]

There is a Netflix documentary called “Don’t F**k With Cats” and its about a serial killer named Luka Magnotta, (He posted videos of torturing cats and dismembered a chinese student Jun Lin) He POSTS what he does to people and the documentary is about catching him. Luka Magnotta used to live VERY close to us. I don’t remember since I might’ve been a bit young perhaps but once my brother told me that I was scared 😅

[@angyrodriguez3623]

Omg lord 😭

[@abbycadabby975]

hi. i have really loved true crime podcasts, documentaries ect. for many years, and here is my point of view on it and why i listen to it. I like true crime because 1. I think it is really facisnating to look into how the crimminal mind functions, and what drives them to do such things. For me personally, I hate podcasts that draw out the gory descriptions, because it feels really disrespectful and is really hard for me (being quite squeamish) to listen to. So really, Im interested in the psychology of it. I can often get angry when listening to these podcasts, or really sad, which is why i really try to limit how much I listen to them. Usually it is once or twice a week and I specifically choose a non-gory podcast/documentary to listen to so I don't vomit. I think some people listen to true crime too much to the point where they become desensitized to it and that is not good. Ive hear many brag about how true crime doesn't scare them, and tbh thats not really a good thing 💀. I also have OCD, and one of the ways that it manifests itself is through me being afraid of hurting others, and sometimes I worry I could be crazy or even pycotic for being interested by true crime. i think the intrest factor in true crime is the same as people being intrested by the holocaust, or wars, pandemics, because it is something the normal human mind can't understand which is why people get really obsessed w it. Nevertheless, romanticism of serial killers is not cool, its disgusting and completely disrespectful.

[@nycdrillpxge]

i can say as a person whos whole acc is about tate edits, they were stupid to pick Evan to play dahmer 💀 bc thats where we’re at. its in no way Evans fault but some of us girls can’t just sit down and realize that sure he’s fine but this is most definitely the wrong show to be editing and romanticizing.

[@lizeth8553]

I feel like they did it on purpose tbh

[@angelz_suki]

yeah true, he is fine (evan peters) but like i dont romanticize a serial killer, some of us girls are messed up

[@whoisaleshaaitkens]

i love your podcast so much, it has helped me a lot

[@mftemi]

im so glad im not the only one who thinks the same about the death penalty😭 like a death penalty is literally the easiest thing for them but life long torture is the best way to handle these people

[@dinahsaur7999]

Yes!! This is what I've been saying. How is the death penalty the worse thing that can happen to a serial killer? And it's not even a torturous death. It's the quickest death imaginable. Like, no. Their victims didn't die quick, so why should they go peacefully?

[@abbycadabby975]

and the death penalty is often desired by these crimminals. Isreal Keyes for example wanted the death penalty, and when he didnt get it he killed himself. It also costs a ton of money for court and the supplies and death row in general and draws out the grief process for victims families. the taxpayer dollars used towards the death penalty are taken out of highway funds and police securtiy funds. in states where there is the death penalty, crime is significantly more than in states without the death penalty. so in conclusion its an escape from a misreable life in prison for disgusting and evil people, and it draws out the grief of victim families instead of just letting the person fade into the background (because death penalty cases get a lot of publicity) and it costs a ton of money (california has spent over 2 billion on this btw) and in general its just immoral (why does killing someone for killing someone prove that killing people is wrong?)

[@abbycadabby975]

@@dinahsaur7999 fr. if they claim it is so "peaceful" and that makes it humane (even tho its actually been proven to be excruciatingly painful) then why are we willingly giving these monsters a quick and easy departure from earth? makes no sense

[@scarlettsinead2098]

@@abbycadabby975 literally! so well said, the death penalty is so obviously illogical in almost every aspect and i feel like nobody talks about how crazy expensive it is too and how taxpayer money can be so much better spent on things that will lower crime rates and support victims

[@jlroy313]

not to mention how so many people on death row are falsefully convicted (meaning they actually didn't do something) like are you serious also the people who did actually did something should just sit in prison and die there, alone.

[@lily-sr8hg]

18:30 I listen to true crime all the time because I find it genuinely interesting to think what it would feel like to find yourself in that situation, I find it hard to click of the podcast without finishing it and finding out what happens next (I’m srry I sounded like such a nerd 😭🙏🙌)

[@Sown_kitty]

what has tiktok come to.

[@lx3nnyv]

@SophiaRoblox yed

[@ASTROGAL222]

I just listene/watch true crime because it’s interesting how and why they did it but SIMPING?!?! is CRAZY

[@kypomii2466]

Not saying who he is but my great uncle is a serial killer. He died a while ago since he was caught in 1930-50 and he was already in his 40s at the time. But everybody in my class knew about this. One girl even messaged me on Snapchat saying "omg girl slayyyy literally that's so cute" and holy shit she would follow me everywhere saying stuff like that and she asked if she could make a fan edit of me and at that point I just blocked her and ignored her

[@yogurtthestrawberrykind2541]

Im so sorry about that..that's crazy

[@ephemeraIl]

I could not finish this video after you told us about that murderer on your bus.. i feel so sick. I cannot believe ANYONE would EVER like a murderer… I’ve seen gore before, from very terrible people on discord (of COURSE) and it’s so sickening… it really is sickening.. to think a person with their own personality and thoughts, emotions, life, etc. is just GONE like that… it’s SO sickening.. if you like true crime murderers, you’re twisted.

[@flower9252]

I had 1 week of watching a bit of true crime I was terrified they explained the killing I swear I couldn’t sleep for like 2 weeks

[@rhiannadecleene9599]

im actually really glad you think that about the death penalty because people who have done stuff like this don't deserve an easy way out. also i HATE when people commit murders and then commit suicide because they know they're gonna be in prison for life. its so aggravating when i see that someone got murdered and that the murderer killed themself, because they don't deserve that. who takes someone life because of whatever reason and then does the same thing to themselves? they deserve to think about what they've done and live with their shame and guilt for the rest of their lives with no chance of ever being released.

[@liliywillims7288]

to be honest i want a series about the victims(in partnership with the families)......i want it to be a chance for the families to tell the true stories on who they really were

[@starrygoodnights]

thatd be great honestly.

[@Liah.urfav.6]

Ben I relate to you so much” like you binge watch a whole series and then your like well time to make lunch” is literally my mom and my ex best friend

[@p1k-013]

Nobody talking about the fact he said dec 31 isn’t a real day 🤨

[@ineedhelp_iwokeinnewbugati]

I always HEAR MY FRIENDs im in love with a criminal LIKE WHO GIVEs A FUCK IMAGINE he killed your family😐

[@Mo0n_LighT965]

I thought I was the only person who thought that way about the death penalty, for me, death is an easy escape from any punishment, so simply making someone’s life a living hell to the point where they would rather die than have it continue. Sure that might be harsh, but to me, only through torture can once truly see what they put someone else through

[@FindingGamesStudio]

Sorry to reply to a 3 month old comment, but I wonder if this perspective can show the "pro death" side a bit. Have you ever considered the thought of a Hell existing? Not the goofy Hollywood type where the devil's just laughing with a pitchfork, no. A type of hell where a person is burning, forever, their body is not being destroyed but constantly burning, and no escape. Falling, too, never reaching the bottom. Eventually they'll be forgotten. Every thing about their life on earth will be nothing after an eternity. I find comfort believing such a place exists for the monsters of this world, where they will never stop being tortured.

[@Mo0n_LighT965]

@@FindingGamesStudio I have considered this. However since we as people have no way of know that it exists, I don’t get as much satisfaction with such an outcome, since wether or not they actually suffer in death isn’t confirmed not denied. At least if we were to keep the death penalty, one, make sure we have the right person, and two, at least make it somewhat more painful. I mean from what I’ve heard of descriptions of the electric chair, that’s pretty damn hellish, so y’know, deaths where the pain only goes away once ur dead. Hell if ur lucky, the person might question if what they did was worth it or not. Or u could kill them the same way they murdered their victims, give them a taste their own medicine. Or it could be one strike and if ur caught again then you’ll be killed, it wouldn’t get rid of the death penalty, but it still incorporates another option. Like a happy little compromise

[@FindingGamesStudio]

@@Mo0n_LighT965 I see where you're coming from. As long as it is 100% the offender, they deserve nothing less than that at least.

[@FISTRIG]

YOU ARE SO SMART AND I AGREE WITH YOUR OBSERVATIONS

[@JayyLott]

The fact that Ross Lynch and Evan both played Jeff is so upsetting ngl I LOVE Evan but I feel like they should’ve casted someone else

[@Livy_iLuvKittens]

I remember reading somewhere “I would low key go into Ted Bundy’s house willingly bc he looks so dam hot” or something like that.I stared at that message for a full 5 minutes before disliking the comment.People are truly disgusting and stupid for doing something like that WILLINGLY knowing Dam well what that serial killer would do.Disgusting.

[@the_babysitter_simp9685]

I get people calling Kurt and Henry (from the movie spree and Vecna from Stranger things ) hot, but not an actually serial killer that killed a bunch of people

[@teggonsg1767]

HENRY???

[@abbycadabby975]

EXACTLY. like if it isnt real then go ahead but if its an actually murderer then they should not he attractive to u whatsoever

[@nicksstaffsohecanjab7099]

whos henry?

[@angyrodriguez3623]

​@@nicksstaffsohecanjab7099 Vecna / 001

[@the_babysitter_simp9685]

Henry is Vecna from stranger things

[@Featherfoot_]

If you can still find someone attractive even when YOU KNOW what they have done is absolutely disgusting.

[@goodluckpup]

i would rather simp fir a literal pop tart then a killer who has killed real ppl

[@Mj-ir4ke]

Ong

[@PakosBox]

As someone who watches and listens to true crime, i enjoy seeing justice happen (i only look into the ones where the person harming the victims (yknow making them victims) ends up getting caught and the victims get to scream their heads off or the jury gets pissed at the bad people and stuff

[@someoneakalily128]

As one that can watch/ listen to “scary” true crime podcast episodes or whatever, and peacefully sleep after…. I just tell myself,” GO TO SLEEP ✨BISH ✨” 😊 and that’s how “I” do it❤! Also do not I said DO NOT, simp for sociopaths/ phicopaths. THANK YOU ❤ Luv u Ben ❤ keep up the good work!🎉

[@mia08246]

what's even worse is they didnt even ask the victims families if they could make the show.They made a docuseries that was the actual tapes of everything that happened and they actually asked the families to do that but for the dhamer show they didnt ask the families.

[@exoticbutters1987]

that fact that december 31st IS a day makes it funnier

[@_telek1nesizxx]

The same happened with Kosta(The boy who did the first shooting ever in Serbia)

[@nct127outsold]

And the fact that he is like 13