TikTok's Terrible Mermaid Conspiracies

[@JohnGenericName]

I love how they say "No way that's a dolphin, that sounds like a siren!" Like they never think "Hey, maybe we came up with those legends about sirens to explain why dolphins sound fucking wild."

[@keylimetea]

They do sound weird

[@LaakeaM21]

Or better yet the assumption that they, people who are trying to prove sirens exist because supposedly they've never personally encountered one, would just Intuitively know what a siren sounds like

[@TheAbigailDee]

Well actually, dolphins aren't real and when they think it's dolphins it's actually sirens.

[@SolaceMcfly]

@@TheAbigailDee don't you tell me dolphins aren't real😤

[@OushiY]

Actually the first thing I thought was ice sounds coupled with open water.

[@notanarmadillo]

I’m no marine biologist, but as far as I’m aware, dolphins can make more than just the one noise

[@kassadydavis7191]

Also one of videos literally just sounds like a humpback(?) whale. Exactly like some type of whale p

[@lukehubbard9676]

K k k k k, waaa wa wa kkkkk aaaahhg WAAA WAAA, OOOOOOA A A A K K K K K K K, OOOOOOOOUUUUOO

[@yobekorb]

Yess I picture an intelligent one with a British accent name Jarvis. With a Monocle and a top hat.

[@Georgeavocados]

No there is only 1 type of species of dolphin, whale, seal, etc. and these animals have no differences in sound whatsoever among individuals

[@jennajuice743]

@@lukehubbard9676 lol there’s a translate to English button under your comment 😂😂

[@Dr.Sunshine_MD]

i love how she’s like “i’m your local mermaid 🧜‍♀️” and then she’s like “i don’t know if mermaids are real. Do you guys think mermaids are real?” like damn that’s a strange identity crisis

[@gravymilk8244]

not completely sure abt if she does this as a job but i do know that there are some people that work as "mermaids" by putting on silicon tails typically at an aquarium (i believe) for entertainment purposes. but if she doesnt have that as a career thats very weird lmao

[@hedgehog3180]

She's Descarte's greatest apprentice.

[@galatea742]

I’m professional mermaid lol. My tail is made of silicone and was as expensive as hell! It is a brilliant experience when you make a child’s day though!

[@bigasspockets]

Hi, how do you get into professional mermaiding? I’m interested but I have never even thought of this as a possible profession before 😄

[@handsthatmold1312]

@@bigasspockets lol I had no idea that was a job

[@caitlinjopepe541]

@@bigasspockets I can't tell you what they do, but I've seen pro mermaids at an aquarium before. They had a whole routine, full tails, it was fun.

[@2doot]

Man, I want to be one so bad. I even have my own tail, fabric instead of silicone though. I wish I was a stronger swimmer, though. Seems to kind of an important skill to have as a mermaid-for-hire :P

[@xXAcidBathXx]

Hey I remember this! As a kid I really wanted to be a professional mermaid, closest thing I’d get to a real one!

[@esobelisk3110]

I love how he’s like “this doesn’t sound like a dolphin. must be a siren!” Like, buddy, if that was a siren, you would be dead. That’s literally the entire point of the singing.

[@gr33ngirlsea]

I'll bet the dolphins are where the myth of sirens might have come from! (And obviously, birds, too.)

[@cynister7384]

​@@gr33ngirlseaWasn't it like sailors seeing manatees or something?

[@muffinghostie]

⁠@@cynister7384no that’s more mantees than sirens. Sirens used to be depicted as bird women different from harpies it just changed throughout history to be also a human fish person.

[@W3_rd0_]

@@cynister7384 that was actually sailors thinking they were mermaids, not sirens. And if you don't know the difference, sirens were originally half-birds who lived in caves/on rocks by the sea and mermaids were always half-fish women throughout history

[@sid6261]

I would like to mention that all of the videos and pictures she’s using are ones that I obsessed over in 3rd grade back in the early 2000s. They’re old as hell and have also been debunked as not real lol. It crushed my childhood me’s heart but it’s funny to see all of them again

[@eminempreg]

The one thing I love about being a kid in modern times 80s- present. Is that almost all of us had a mermaid phase

[@loralea3142]

yea I kept waiting for the Fiji mermaid to pop up with its creepy little monkey face sewed onto a fish

[@keylimetea]

Bro same but like 4th grade

[@washedblue]

I don't understand how this happens in the year 2021 given a quick Google search will debunk almost everything, but oh, to be young and still believe in the Loch Ness monster again

[@TheAbigailDee]

This be breaking my heart ALL OVER AGAIN

[@nopeitschammy8937]

Translation for the second mermaid clip at 2:30 "Sa video na ito, nakuhanan ang isang nilalang lumalangoy sa dagat" "In this video, a (sea) creature was spotted (filmed) swimming in the ocean" At 3:09 "Kumakampay pa ang kulay kahel na buntot nito" "Swinging its orange colored tail" (the clip is originally from a famous TV show here in the philippines. It's called ' kapuso mo jessica soho ' where they cover all kinds of stuff like the supernatural to helping people in need) I really tried my best translating the lines I hope this helped!!! c:

[@HollyHummingbirdriver]

What language is it?

[@adamb6130]

@@HollyHummingbirdriver tagalog

[@Daye04]

You're the real MVP!

[@beth4928]

Thank you!

[@billysbrokenhands2747]

Lmao, I guessed as much. I’m not even an expert, & I know it’s either a dolphin or porpoise (could even be a dugong, the video is too low quality to tell).

[@elusivemayfly7534]

“Jarfish Johnson,” lol. The judges would have also accepted “Starfish Johnson” or “Shark Fins Johnson.” That last one sounds like an old-timey mobster name.

[@shinymetagross1666]

Mess with Shark Fins Johnson and you'll be swimming with the fishes

[@FrenkTheJoy]

@@shinymetagross1666 I don't know you, but I think that might be the funniest thing you'll ever say.

[@elusivemayfly7534]

@@shinymetagross1666 LOL! Love it!

[@familyaccountgilbert7781]

Shark Fins Johnson is one of the shark mobsters in Shark Tale.

[@Tw0Dots]

@@FrenkTheJoy is that a compliment or an insult

[@princessaria]

One funny thing to me is that the origin of the “siren” myth wasn’t even that they were sea creatures. They were originally said to be bird women, described similarly to harpies. It wasn’t until the late 7th-early 8th Century that there were documented descriptions of them as part fish, and even then, most descriptions retained the part-bird origin story. It wasn’t until the Middle Ages that they were closer to universally thought of as mermaid-like creatures.

[@internetsafespace]

What we do in the shadows had the part bird siren lady!!!

[@calowenby1654]

Oh man, harpies used to scare me a lot when I was younger. I remember thinking of most mythical creatures as really cool and being surprised at how genuinely scared I was when I thought about harpies.

[@someoneidk308]

That makes much more sense to me! Many birds are wonderful at mimicking human speech, and they can release either very pretty or horrendous birdsong. I can definitely see people taking some weird occurrences in the woods and going "yeah let's gtfo the birds are going to murder us all"

[@Jackoff_icial]

man, it would be cool to see a creature design, maybe a movie or game monster, that combined the bird-like siren and the fish-like siren. I'm imagining some elements of speculative evolution where they pick traits of each of those that make the most sense for surviving from meal to meal and behaving the way sirens are supposed to

[@bugdrawsportraits]

that depends on the culture, in mine sirens are just regular looking women near forest rivers and streams - ghosts of women who were killed by men or killed themselves because of them, and they lure men to drown. Bird-women sirens are from Greek mythology. I guess English should only use "mermaid" for fish-women, instead of mixing up the sirens in there. :D I just remembered fish-woman siren (mermaid? lmao) was a thing in China too. Yeah, basically, I think they should maybe just stick to using "mermaid" for sea related creatures, but I've seen people saying "siren" is the bad one that lures with her song, and "mermaid" is basically the same, but she's cute and Ariel like and just chills there.

[@hupla2185]

Anyone wanna talk about how she can just vanish like that? How do we know she’s not trying to use mermaids as a front to hide the fact she’s CLEARLY a chameleon person?

[@samr9483]

It would be funny if some of these are people wearing mermaid tails and just going swimming, haha. I swim with a mermaid tail sometimes and it's a lot of fun! I would find it hilarious if I ended up on some kind of conspiracy theory video though

[@luciadreaming9]

I'll make a conspiracy about you

[@erinniccoinn1gh]

be the unsolved mystery you want to see in the world

[@klop4228]

Of course you swim with a mermaid tail. How else is a mermaid supposed to swim? Nice try pulling the wool over our eyes, MERMAID. Wake up, sheeple, mermaids are real!

[@floralfae16]

Hey me too! It's honestly so much fun

[@lotusthemermaid]

Omg same!! Nice to sea you 🧜🏼‍♀️

[@lilym7105]

as someone currently working on a BoS in Marine Bio, mermaids are.... very improbable. For them to have not been well documented they probably would not breach the surface often and be deep sea creatures, and therefor would not be mammals. The chance for a non-mammalian vertebrate to evolve to strongly resemble a land mammal is very unlikely as they do not need the same limb formation in order to be mobile, instead using fins. Arms would create a lot of drag and would be inefficient for movement; a waste of energy. And while the ability to use tools and pick things up is generally beneficial, evolution is not intentional and the stages in-between short fins and long arms would be weeded out (arms/legs did not appear until after animals started moving to land). Of course a lot of this is simplified and I may have left some things out (and most people know these things logically), I have spent more time than I should have thinking about the viability of mermaids in my life. Now, what is surprisingly oftenly mistaken for mermaids are manatees and dugongs, of the order Sirenia (named so because of mermaids). At 2:30 I am very sure this is a dugong. Now I encourage anyone who is interested to of course do their own research, the ocean is cool! I'll get off my soapbox now

[@doubtful_seer]

So… what you’re saying is… fish are mermaids?!

[@sydneywilliams4796]

Thanks for this. It’s pretty interesting to hear the rough reasoning behind why this wouldn’t be a thing

[@doggytheanarchist7876]

Nice try ma'am. ;-) I almost bought it. But we all know that mermaids are the offspring of those humans Who got r***d by dolphins while on vacation. And coz they were so embarrassed about it they just threw their babies into the sea, and never ever took it to Jerry Springer.

[@-Desire]

Okay this is genuinely interesting and informative, thank you!

[@jamestomato1744]

No no stay on your soapbox, we need more people like you and less people like those out-of-their-mind mermaid conspiracy theorists.

[@olive-ridley6080]

as a marine biologist - tiktok makes me so angry. it's not just crazy ocean conspiracies, but also people going viral for harassing marine mammals (which is extremely illegal in the US), spreading lies about certain marine species, or grossly misrepresenting issues with commercial fisheries (which granted many are flawed, but it's not as black-and-white as everyone on tiktok wants to claim). but most of these videos are either people in silicon tails, obvious hoaxes, or literally the coast guard rescuing someone from the water (3:45). I just got to the one at 10:10, that's literally not the only noise dolphins make. oh my god. they make so many sounds.

[@FlowceanSoul]

Tiktok angers me so much when it comes to marine life and fish in general. The way they treat sharks absolutely infuriates me too, I’ve seen too many videos of them acting like sharks are just MANEATERS when they’re literally not. I absolutely hate how much misinformation is spread around on there and people just soak it up as if it’s even true. Not to mention the blatant abuse of pet fish and people treating them like absolute TOYS. Just disgusting.

[@pulatelephonics]

@@FlowceanSoul tik tok is a hub for stupidity

[@polarberal]

when I got to the bit about the dolphins I was just like. yes that is what dolphins sound like that is a noise that they make.

[@FlowceanSoul]

@@nuttbag6658 I LOVE AVNJ!!!!

[@olive-ridley6080]

@@polarberal yeah, there was another one later on that sounded like whales singing too. I don't think you would hear dolphins singing out of the water on a boat like that though, especially with the amount of noise boats make, but the sound can easily be edited over top of the video. I work out on boats and I've been definitely unintentionally closer on those boats a bunch of times to all sorts of cetaceans than I'm comfortable with hah and I've never heard any of their vocalizations from above the water. You would definitely be able to hear them and capture audio underwater though, but the sound wouldn't pass up between water and air, which have two very different densities, and sound that clear. sorry that was way more of a comment than I meant to write haha, I just get so annoyed at bullshit on tiktok

[@hunter5w6]

ngl sea creature noises when you’re on the water at night can be scary as FUCK. y’all ever been on a dock and heard a *_manatee_* just *_breathing??_* shit sounds like a horde of zombies I’m so serious

[@cosspider666]

FUN FACT: The dolphin noise, commonly used to bleep curse words, is actually an Australian bird, of course it is, making its mating call. So when you here the dolphin noise it is a horny bird.

[@a-bird-lover]

it's a kookaburra noise sped/pitched up, and it's not really a mating call, just a general call for communication

[@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme]

@@a-bird-lover IT IS?????????

[@franklyfeline]

​@@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme idk man bird lover seems like a pretty credible source

[@gaslit7442]

"commonly used to bleep curse words" Is the media you consume produced in Bikini Bottom, perhaps?

[@megl.9470]

Jarvis bashing the sirens' song choices is a whole personality type

[@evee3164]

Damn three bots, one after the other? here’s a comment to break ur curse bestie

[@pizzajoke3561]

Yeah I’m just going through and reporting all of the bot comments. Dunno if they’re actually removed after you do that, but it can’t hurt

[@pizzajoke3561]

Just refreshed, they apparently are not actually removed, but hopefully KZbin people actually notice the ~100 spam alerts I sent them for every single bot comment on the video

[@teathesilkwing7616]

Jarvis? You mean jarfish?

[@miad6160]

@@teathesilkwing7616 I hate that this made me laugh

[@emmathomson2584]

That sound he’s hearing out on the boat could literally be a machine moving 100km away. Sound carries extremely well in cold weather & across water.

[@aliveslice]

Except it's all staged

[@Orioncrowborne0808]

It is all staged,but the sounds they used for siren calls are whale songs,hmm,almost like humans were inspired by ocean animals and the sounds they make 🧐

[@anoramactir]

People have thought manatees and dugongs were mermaids in the past... the second video definitely looked like one of those, and mermaid tail swimsuit bottom things are readily available on the internet. My local renaissance faire has mermaids you can meet every year that are humans in very cool costumes... I assume, anyway! THAT SAID watching the donation total go up the entire time this video was running has been awesome! ..BTW, in The Odyssey sirens are actually bird-women who live on a cliff above the ocean. They got conflated with fish-people much later.

[@comradevalence]

You're trying to tell me that there's an animal called a dugong that inspired the Pokémon Dewgong Why haven't I ever heard of it help

[@ssharkbait]

That’s why in the show What We Do in the Shadows the siren is just a weird chicken woman. I thought they were just being different.

[@fancypenguin2092]

@@comradevalence ummm actually the animal was based on the pokemon 😳

[@anna_banana414]

ive heard that the myth behind the reason the sirens went from bird women to fish women was because when hades kidnapped persephone, the sirens wouldn’t help look for her so zeus turned them into fish women. but then the story also gets reversed because there another saying that they were fish FIRST, and they wanted to help look for persephone so they asked to be given wings like birds so they could fly around and look easier lol. as a mythology nerd i just felt like sharing though

[@one_smol_duck]

the mermaids at the faire are real

[@trancandy1]

"sirens are known for luring sailors in with their beautiful singing" the video: "AAAAAAAAAAAAA"

[@aftism_]

Fun fact, if mermaids were real, they wouldn’t be slim, and they would most likely live around the depth of whales! They’d be midsize to plus-size, because the fat on the body would work the same as flubber on whales or seals/sea lions. If they had little fat on their bodies, they’d die of hypothermia. They’d also live around the depths of whales and other large ocean creatures for the same reasons large ocean life live deeper in the ocean. Instead of colorful fish tails, the tails would feel closer to the fins of dolphins and sharks. (Or maybe if you had a mermaid suit made out of silicon that feels like human skin)

[@royalblanket]

Dummy thicc mermaids

[@aftism_]

@@royalblanket oh yeah, you get it dude, thicc mermaids

[@bogwife7942]

i liked this better as a tumblr post...

[@aftism_]

@@bogwife7942 who said I ripped this from tumblr?

[@MariaTex3]

MEGA MERMAIDS that live deep deep in the ocean. Giant mermaids the size of the Kraken. Open your eyes, people!!!

[@clairemartin5257]

Idea! Jarvis throws away everything he’s built and done to become Jarfish Johnswim, OUR local mermaid

[@superstellarhere]

how about jarfish johnfin???

[@clairemartin5257]

Hey oh! That’s pretty good :))

[@jerryfperryiii6830]

Well, merman but yes (Sorry I just felt the need to correct you :[)

[@ThatCybertChannel]

Not gonna lie... I think I'm just hear for the jumpscares too. The comedic timing is chef's kiss.

[@austinwhitmore8174]

wrong 'hear'

[@austinwhitmore8174]

@@TheReal_Pumpkian nope

[@TheReal_Pumpkian]

oh hi

[@TheReal_Pumpkian]

@@austinwhitmore8174 sry

[@emptysekai]

"hear" 💀💀

[@GarfieldPhone]

I know an artist who makes found footage style art typically with cryptids and stuff, he made a mermaid piece for MerMay 2021, in the post clarifying it was edited like all of his other posts but people took it and posted it claiming it to be a real photograph without his consent, really awful how people will steal the work of artists to spread lies.

[@msjkramey]

Whats their handle? That sounds really cool

[@codytoeung5089]

Same, I'd like to see

[@fantastical-daydreamer]

OH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TREVOR HENDERSON :00

[@GarfieldPhone]

@@fantastical-daydreamer n...no? Not all found footage art is trevor Henderson bro. To be fair they are friends but either way cmon bro

[@GarfieldPhone]

@@msjkramey I'm so sorry, KZbin keeps deleting it for some reason. Its tra_aivedlaV backwards

[@DetectiveJones]

12:26 Hes trying to pass it off as "well set him free" as a good cause but in reality this man is sacrificing that crab to whatever demon is chasing him

[@clowchan]

Fun fact: a lot of old timey sailors (think 1400s-1500s) thought manatees and dugongs were actual mermaids. And judging by the videos here - the same thing is happening here with some people oops

[@atree9284]

“Brazilian coastline” ah yes thank you for clarifying this, because that’s very specific and not at all too big. Not at all. This is a perfectly fine location that anyone can go to!

[@Killer_Bangs]

damn bots

[@irishempire9811]

Its a very small area of land, the same size of Chile's coastline, not big at all

[@Tw0Dots]

“So where do you live?” “North America” “Canada? USA?” “America” “What part”? “Idk man, the state with all the people in it.”

[@toothfairy10133]

"where do you wanna meet up today?" "the city" "alr see you there :)"

[@anemooooos]

Ngl if someone's gonna be up close and personal with a siren it's definitely gonna be you, Jarvis.

[@odellelottering9375]

I read this before that part of the video so I just scrolled past. But I came back because he just said it and now this makes sense and is funny

[@moonrocks-19]

ngl if someone’s gonna be up close and personal with adele, it’s definitely gonna be jarvis

[@maryanysiadi4576]

Love how mermaids, sirens and gorgons are all different mythological entities and how a person who is supposed to know the difference... Doesn't.

[@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar]

Mermaid = Fish Lady Siren = Singing Fisg Lady that commits murder Gorgon = Lady with snake hair that also commits murder

[@hithere5136]

@@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar sirens were originally bird ladies actually

[@spunchbopsquarpant]

​@@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar siren and mermaids are synonymous in spanish. made my time learning english a living hell

[@weedwhackeraccident]

That's like an unholy combination of the classic "Sirens are fish women like mermaids" and "Medusa is the race, not the name" misconceptions

[@srujanas.p.3392]

My lady really watched that mockumentary and thought the fictional part was that humans are apes 😂

[@BubbleBunnyy]

I find it so funny when people are like “it’s a THEORY we came from apes” like.. you do not understand a scientific theory. Also we still are apes even now lol.

[@Emihasdreamstoo]

Humans are really trying hard to put ourselves on the pedestal of non-animals…

[@VileSentry]

Gravity is just a theory, that's how we know it's fake.

[@hedgehog3180]

Exceptionally annoying apes too.

[@anthrohuman8272]

Dugongs, which are a sea creature, are often mistaken for mermaids because they have a bi-lobed tail. It’s actually thought that they are where the myth of the mermaid came from 🧜‍♀️

[@Undivided-X]

Sadly the dugongs are dying out because of degradation of seagrass meadows.

[@imuttx]

ain’t that a pokemon

[@Undivided-X]

@@imuttx the pokemon Dewgong is based on the real-life dugong.

[@puddle3551]

Dugongs are thicc as hell as im here for it

[@Mossprite21]

I just look up what a dugong looks like and they are very cute and I love them. I thought they would look more like the Pokémon but I am not disappointed

[@e.d.5766]

This is the equivalent of someone trying to prove to you that werewolves are real by showing you videos of their dog.

[@lauriex8832]

3:12 I got your back, Jarvis. The language they're speaking is Tagalog. The woman who did the voice over was Jessica Soho, the host of the popular TV show in the Philippines (Kapuso Mo Jessica Soho). It's quite common for KMJS to cover fake footages sent by people on the internet. I mean, one time, someone sent a footage of a woman puking out frogs so the KMJS team and a few investigators went to said woman's house to investigate, only to come to the conclusion that it was all staged.

[@fossposs6408]

i think i remember seeing the frog episode when i was a kid lmao

[@avatarchristine]

wow glad to see some fellow pinoys here! not surprised by the amount of "mermaid footage" from the philippines in this video either, we are in an archipelago after all lol

[@rider338]

I like how mermaids are something no person or underwater robot has ever gotten lucky enough to see is spotted a multitude of times by a guy with a phone on a crabbing vessel

[@spazpaz]

2:24 as an australian jarvis saying “this is so hard to follow” was SPOT on

[@basementdwellercosplay]

The thing is if it was a siren call, he would throw his phone and start going into the see. That's their whole thing trapping men with their voices

[@joshlangan1659]

Jarvis is the siren, and the sound is just him trying his best. Sure got my attention!

[@jesstheawfullyhideousmess4922]

shhhh no one's supposed to know about that

[@vimerveilles]

Dude there are so many mermaid performances that look straight up real. Like making realistic prosthetics that are swimmable? Straight up art.

[@imperialguard451]

absolutely wild that they’re including videos that are just people happily swimming in those silicone mermaid tail things.

[@Eyeball44]

Aussie girl: “He already knows it’s not a dolphin” Fisherman: “it’s Dolphins singing”

[@cursed-cat9126]

If mermaids were ACTUALLY real, there'd be a breaking news article of one them choking and dying on a long peice of Dragon Tail chewing gum in 2013

[@alinazuka9143]

your profile is so silly billy

[@cursed-cat9126]

@@alinazuka9143 thank you :333

[@avo8479]

Jarvis, that first clip was in Tagalog (one of the major languages in the Philippines) and it just says “You can see something moving from its butt like it’s swimming”, which really is as dry as you’d expect

[@roguestowl2280]

thanks for this! I was wondering what language that was and what they were saying.

[@fruitbranch]

pretty sure i"ve seen that episode before. wasn't that whole mermaid claim debunked?

[@lauriex8832]

@@fruitbranch Definitely

[@mariahjohnson9784]

In middle school, I had a notebook that was filled with mermaid and werewolf notes. We passed it back and forth for an e tire school year. I was the mermaid and I routinely made up spells and charms that I thought mermaids would use. We filled up multiple notebooks. It was so fun!

[@prettysparklez1195]

That sounds fun as hell I'd do that now tbh

[@annabelledoesstuff]

at 5:11 that's definitely a person in a costume lol. Looks like a Mahina brand monofin (its like one giant flipper for both your feet, commonly used by freedivers). Mahinas are pretty popular in the professional and hobby mermaid communities

[@First-name.Last-name]

i so badly want to know what this woman thinks skeletons look like bc I know she's not trying to convince me that's a decomposed mermaid

[@digapygmy70]

When my youngest sister was a kid, my other sister invented a game called Mermaid Hour to keep her happy when she was bored (basically that there was a special hour where you could turn into a mermaid). But she ended up becoming convinced it was real, and when she figured out that it wasn't, she nearly killed our other sister lmao

[@CruzinCait]

dang what was the game that sounds lit

[@omachao6856]

She WHAT

[@dunkey759]

Ma'am, she did what?

[@flaviac6556]

turn into a mermaid? how?

[@fynnknight558]

Sorry uh Is that last line an exaggeration?

[@lilyrice2841]

The first "mermaid" us probably a really light colored orca, judging by the saddle patch on it's back, also yes, orcas can be brown or cream colored, not just black and white!

[@GhostieAndLeslie]

yeah or a dugong

[@dasdasdaxzvea]

@@GhostieAndLeslie Or a manatee

[@gspurr2386]

Why do people call Mermaids "Sirens" when Sirens are half women, half bird who, like Mermaids, lure men into the ocean with their singing and eat them?

[@mastermarkus5307]

'Cause people are wacky and conflated the two somehow. The same thing happened with fauns and satyrs. Now people think of them as the same, but in Greek mythology, satyrs are humanoid creatures with horse ears, a horse tail, and apparently a constant erection.

[@Oujouj426]

None of these wackos have done any actual research on the shit they believe. They just do "research", AKA, typing "real mermaid" into KZbin.

[@FrenkTheJoy]

I don't know, but it's been a thing for at least decades that people think of sirens as basically mermaids that seduce people with songs. It's not these stupid tiktokers' faults.

[@TableClothPersona]

@@FrenkTheJoy Yes!! when i was little everybody thought that sirens were just "evil" mermaids! its definitely not the tiktokers faults lol, it's been like that for a long time

[@jaymeVos]

@@TableClothPersonaall mermaids are "evil" by human standards, mostly, since they eat humans! Or at least drown them.

[@maple22moose44]

about the sirens (8:56), they are from greek mythology, and they lived on a pair of islands and their songs were to lure in people as prey. The songs sounded completely different to different people as well

[@hatsterical2475]

5:20 As an Australian, I'd like to say you're doing pretty freaking good with your accent. Better than a LOT of people I've heard trying to mimic us.

[@ew7339]

For an 18th century Pom maybe

[@Hannahgs]

I know that you can buy realistic mermaid tails and people get payed to be mermaids like in aquariums and stuff with the fake tails even if I saw what looked clearly like a mermaid it’s gonna take a lot more to convince me it isn’t just a fake tail lol even though most of these don’t even look like mermaids.

[@lydialuton4402]

EXACTLY

[@ahuman2372]

You especially can’t trust videos or pictures lmao technology is like really good at the moment

[@lordjacesearcy9382]

if mermaids existed, they would be whales, actually. The tail shape, being similar to dolphins, implies that mermaids would be cetaceans, the same family as toothed whales and mysticeti

[@zeeclirio2080]

Yeah and it doesn't make sense for them to be half human (mammal) and half fish ! I always thought that we needed to represent them with a tail that's more like cetacea's

[@Queen_Cnidarian]

Sonce thay have teeth, they woukd probably be odonteceties.

[@arson3921]

I would like to take this time to mention that, uh... Sirens aren't mermaids. Sirens are a greek mythological creature that aren't even fish, they're grotesque creatures that live on rocky coasts and sing songs that cause sailors to crash into the rocks and then they eat the corpses. Also there are many theories as to the origins of mermaid stories, but one is that they come from the first encounter with manatees because manatees have the most biologically similar vagina to humans which might have caused early sailors to believe they were part human. You read that correctly, the most common theory as to why mermaid stories exist is because some random sailors fiddlesticked manatees.

[@mastermarkus5307]

I have some doubts about sailors getting THAT close to manatees and then coming up with the half-woman, half-scaly-fish people 🤣. But yes, in Greek mythology, Sirens are specifically BIRD-women. In art of the time they usually have bird bodies but the head of a woman.

[@maximummax7232]

Hey, if you're a lonely sailor on a long sea trip...

[@odellelottering9375]

Yeah sirens are different to mermaids. I think that's what I appreciated about What we do in the shadows. It's such a weird and funny series and not at all educational but they had a siren in one episode and it really was just a bird lady with an alluring voice that ate victims. So. They were accurate at least

[@kat8559]

Yeah i always hear the manatees thing but nobody ever has a source they just say it like it's true and i'm supposed to believe it without reviewing the scholarship on the issue.

[@12woodsteps]

Also the knees! I don't know exactly what it is but their tails look like human legs wrapped in a sleeve of flesh

[@VesperEmm]

at 5:49, I think that was one of the works of an artist who combines monkey & fish remains to create a mermaid. I wish I could recall their name, but it looks like their work.

[@jaynedoh7823]

P.T. Barnum?

[@Mamoreno0215]

I'm guessing this woman went to Disneyland once as a kid, met Ariel, and automatically believed that mermaids are real

[@erikm8373]

A part of me really wants to say "it's perfectly fine to believe there is still some bit of previously undiscovered magic and wonder left on this hellhole of a planet" but another part of me wants to say "you guys actually believe this stuff?"

[@SpaceStationJukebox]

just from a scientific standpoint, mermaids would look terrfiying. Look at every other mammel that is found in the ocean, mermaids would look nothing like humans. Most likely they would have to carry a lot of fat to keep warm, their skin would be thick to protect it from constant contact with water, they wouldn't have long flowing hair, and they would have some form of hunting tools (sharp teeth, claws, etc.) they wouldn't look like what disney want to portray.

[@VileSentry]

There is nothing scientific about this. They live in a fantasy world. A lot of these people are also flat earthers and think adrenachrome is extracted from kids tortured by celebrities. It's funny to laugh at, but there is a dark side to these delusions and it often ends in violence. Tiktok makes this worse by pushing this stuff specifically to people that are vulnerable to it. We saw this exact same thing happen with youtube, hence all the strange rules and algorithm stuff that people just complain about now.

[@joshdelaney949]

Did Jarvis just post twice in the past 24 hours wow this is almost gold channel level treatment

[@elusivemayfly7534]

Truly PREMIUM!

[@mayalewis2956]

Whats funnier is seeing people who have well made mermaid tails usually for mermaid shows and such or just fun and photography film thier own stuff then seeing some random tiktoker who saw them believing it was real

[@th223inoue]

There's a lot of "mermaid sightings" in the Phillippines due to the prevalence of "dugongs" aka seacows. Their shadows look very much like humanoid mermaids swimming.

[@Soapstone_]

If anyone is gonna get with an Alien Vampire, it's gonna be you Jarvis.

[@alynnidalar]

do you guys not remember the old days of the internet where people had livejournals and stuff about their quest to like visualize being a mermaid so hard that they would actually become a mermaid one day and they'd post about how much water they needed to drink and how they were growing scales and such i swear this was real, I cannot be the only one who remembered this

[@sumlem]

KZbin mermaid potions!!

[@thatsthespirit3523]

@@fjdjjddj-dv8wu this cracked me up

[@camillastacey4674]

Ah livejournal, happy memories. I didn't know about the mermaid side of it though.

[@FrenkTheJoy]

Wow lmao when I was like 6 I thought if I focused really hard I could turn into a cat. But I was 6.

[@gordonramsayslambsauce]

My siblings and I got so mad at our mom for not letting us drink or bathe in salt water because old youtube videos said it would work

[@benjaminstevens4468]

The noise is staying the same volume while they are hauling balls on that fishing boat, that’s impressive that they can keep up with the boat, while keeping their heads out of the water and howling! Athleticism!

[@jamestomato1744]

Great now I'm imagining Jarvis just on a boat one day going "Don't know why I'm on a boat but here I am", and then just hears a siren singing Rolling in the Deep but with an operatic voice, and Jarvis just diving into the sea and relentlessly swimming to the source of the vocals.

[@clockworkpanda8]

10:15 those high piched chirp sounds are not dolfin sounds thats a cookabara bird on like 20x speed. Its what people use for dolfun sounds in bad movies. Look it up if you dont trust me.

[@JoltSpark99]

Along with donating to team seas. You can take action yourself by going to clean ups in your area, just picking up trash as you see it. And practice leave no trace policies. ALSO KEEP PICKING UP YOUR DANG TRASH! LIKE forever! Not just once. Also! Write to you Legislators! Vote for people who care about the environment! Donate to native/indigenous communities! There’s lots of things you can do!

[@OGMagaro]

@@samarnadra Same. I live near a few rivers but the nearest ocean is three hours away, and the nearest great lake is five

[@Elegant_Sausage]

@@samarnadra I live in Southern Utah, so I can't clean up lakes or oceans. I am a rockhound though, so I'm out a lot and I always bring a bag for garbage that I find on my hikes. Thats great for my little area, but like you said, donating is really the best way that I can help. I gave what I could! Will give more when I can.

[@TheColossalMixel]

Mermaids already exist, it’s called women that can swim

[@teathesilkwing7616]

Proof that one of these “women” exist?

[@ussinussinongawd516]

@@teathesilkwing7616 your mom

[@stardust915]

Yay I'm a mermaid!

[@misfortunesmiley7392]

Mermaids are literally just fish because there's no way they'd look anything like a human due to the ocean's environment lol

[@digitaal_boog]

5:43 that’s a monkey torso stitched onto a fish. It was in ripleys believe it or not

[@sparklestarspompomunicorn]

7:53 but jarvis _there are many benefits to being a marine biologist_

[@mossgrows6540]

jarvis: the sirens need to get with the times jarvis: references a 10 year old song

[@dejaj2574]

*20

[@rippspeck]

@@dejaj2574 Rolling in the Deep is from 2010.

[@glittery_cucumber]

​@@rippspeck It's Gonna Be Me by NSYNC is from 2000

[@Michaelengelmann]

I always cut up boxes to make them flat, cut six pack rings so if a fish gets stuck in the circle it also has a way out of the circle, and cut the bottom of plastic bags/any bag so there’s two openings

[@amyg8176]

Most grocery stores have plastic bag recycling bins now, actually!

[@marleymars2223]

From someone who knows a fair amount about ocean animals through studying them as a hobby, In order of some of the clips in this where there were identifiable animals: the orange-brown "mermaid" was definitely a fish, and could be any of a variety of ocean fish. Its clearly moving on its side. There is a shadow of a creature shown that looks very much like a whale. You can tell if a finned animal underwater is a fish or a mammal by this rule: if it loves its tail side-to-side, its a fish. It it moves its tail up and down, its a mammal. As for the dolphin noises, there isnt just one "dolphin noise". Dolphins make a wide variety of noises to communicate. The noises heard on the boat sounded like it could have been dolphins, porpoises, whales, or another ocean mammal possibly different ones at different times (or just edited in lol). The video shown for the sound a dolphin makes shows what appears to be a false killer whale (which is a porpoise and not a dolphin) or a wholphin (hybrid of a false killer whale and a dolphin).

[@seisage]

Hi. I know this is like 4 months after you posted this, but a few corrections: 1. the animal in the "dolphin noises" videos is absolutely 100% a bottlenose dolphin. False killer whales do not have a rostrum/beak. The dolphin in the video definitely does. Wholphins do have a rostrum, but it's not as long as the one on the animal in the video, and they're also extraordinarily rare hybrids in general. Bottlenose dolphins come in a surprising range of shades. Idk if it was the dark grey color that made you think "false killer whale", but bottlenoses can definitely be that dark in coloration. 2. False killer whales are not porpoises. They are in the family Delphinidae, the dolphins. A simple google search tells you this. They were originally classified as porpoises in 1846 based on a single skull, but that classification was revised in 1861 when the full organism was observed. 3. The orange-brown creature is almost certainly a dugong. Fish don't really move that way on the surface of the water unless they're dying or a mola mola (which is a vastly different looking animal). Based on the way it's moving, it's pretty clearly a mammal. You said it yourself, up and down tail movement is mammalian. If it were a fish, that sure is a hugely inefficient way of moving its tail... Just looking at like... the basic muscle movements Otherwise, you're correct. Dolphins have a huge range of vocalizations, so a simple youtube video of "dolphin noises" isn't going to cover everything. And yeah, I agree about the "siren noises" just being edited in lmao. Or possibly played out of a speaker by someone else on the boat.

[@bruna7534]

This "remains" are actually from a local artist, he made a couple of them and photographed, this white one is the most famous. I don't remember his name but it's easy to find. It's literally a sculpture

[@Nightswarmer]

So, when I was 16, I dated this guy that was convinced mermaids were real and that UFO sightings were just merpeople traveling in advanced spaceships and that shit was wild and he sited his sources to the Animal Planet mockumentary and literally the FIRST THING that comes up is that "this is a work of fiction" and that sent me down a spiral of documentaries on how fantasy creatures would work, like griffins and dragons, like scientists were explaining how my favorite fantasy creatures would work if they were real and that shit was FACINATING, I love animals and fantasy and when writing, I always try to think of fantasy creatures through a scientific lense.. Guy turned out to be a groomer, tho..

[@cayrenisaturtle]

Jarvis gives the content (and consent) we deserve

[@bsings7928]

Read this as consent and this is my official request for this comment to be edited to consent. Because that’s fucking hilarious.

[@pastelsunset]

His name is Jarfish smh

[@jacobhorak4578]

Congrats on getting The Ocean as a sponsor Jarfish!

[@John-b8n4z]

I must say Jarvis, you look ravishing in that shade of blue

[@nicolec5472]

If anyone is gonna be up close and personal with sirens, it’s gonna be you bro! 14:23

[@opheliamunroe1110]

The "dolphin sounds" one is so wild to me because some whales and dolphins can LITERALLY MIMIC HUMAN SPEECH. They could have literally been saying "Hey! Hey! Hey!" and I would still think it was a beluga whale. 💀

[@derekhasabrain]

It's incredible how good Jarvis does accents. He's no pro actor, but he's really good

[@kateemma22]

Mate, he's banned from entering this country after that accent.

[@PossiblyAlena]

"The people at the tik top" just threw my entire soul for a loop

[@AaronYorkYT]

I watched H2O as a kid so I can’t confirm if they are a real mermaid until I hear one of them say Chloe

[@kezkai]

Cleo* fake fan smfh

[@AaronYorkYT]

@@kezkai you caught me slippin. That was on me.

[@iTzNikkitty]

Lady is literally a 16th century sailor mistaking a Dugong for a mermaid.

[@MariaTex3]

Sirens, at least according to Greek mythology, aren't even fish people. Plus, they don't just sing songs like a whale would; it's not just sounds, it's words. They sing promises of something so tempting that those who hear it will immediately throw themselves into the sea to get to them and die and be feasted upon by the sirens. Their song is a lure and it is immediately effective and specific to each victim.

[@percibaltwinkus]

these funny fellows: this is a SIREN singing a song SO BEAUTIFUL that it lures men to sail to them and meet an untimely death the alleged siren: EEEEEeeeeEEEeeeEEEeeEEEEEEEEE

[@logan317b]

11:31 I absolutely need a series about a group of sirens who get a record deal

[@blookp]

8:32 Sirens in folkware dragged sailors of their boats by singing, the sailors were forced to go to them because of their singing, their singing is hypnotic. And the hypnotic effects (usually) only applies to guys. So if that was a siren that guy would be dead on the spot

[@sorryifoldcomment8596]

Exactly.

[@caffeinatedkatie4696]

We're there any stories with women and sirens? I thought sirens just lured people because they eat people.

[@ussinussinongawd516]

@@caffeinatedkatie4696 Women weren't sailors in post-roman europe

[@caffeinatedkatie4696]

@@ussinussinongawd516 I was just confused about the "usually only applies to guys" part.

[@PinnePon]

The singing is obviously not a siren. Their song is irresistible and there he is, resisting

[@macdaddy5880]

If those had been sirens he would have jumped in the water and tried to swim to them before dying on the pointy rocks they sit upon. Literally that’s how the legend goes. Sirens sit surrounded by deadly sharp rocks in the water. They sing and boats and sailors nearby try to get to them because they are in a trance and infatuated with them. But then they die on the rocks and the sirens eat their bodies.

[@diamondpolice710]

Maybe the true ocean was the friends we made along the way

[@TheTboneduck]

Sometimes having a common name is fun. Nearly did a spittake when he said "this is why Jessica left"

[@Poisonouscosmic]

There Are Many Benefits To Being A Marine Biologist

[@LostMoonRaider]

Guarantee for a fact that the "mermaid" at 7:35 is from a video on youtube from like 2013, claiming to have found a real "mermaid corpse".

[@splishh]

11:12 y'all got any adele? LMAOOOOO

[@NosebleeddeGroselha]

Normal mermaid content creators: “Making a pretty tail with sylicone!” “Come pick up seashells at the beach with me 🐚” “Ocean themed DIYs ✨” “Tips to help saving marine life 🐠” Phebe: “ay das not dolphin das marmayd hah conspiracy **jumpscare** marmayd go brrr”

[@mysterysmilegirl7302]

Jarvis, you know that you'd be the closest to any Adele level siren that appeared, of course after about 15 seconds pheobed would appear out of nowhere with a shocked face and knock you off the rock into the water

[@fareehashaheen605]

the way she keeps popping back in reminds me of when you show your friend a funny video and keep checking if they're laughing💀

[@icryoverfanfics]

12:22 I was gonna say the sound reminds me of 52 blue but it’s I little higher. But the whole 52 blue thing did kinda tell us “hey marine mammals can make sounds out side of their normal range”.

[@caballodevalona]

"It's not a dolphin, and it's not a whale. I know what it is." "Say it." "#vampire"

[@lukehubbard9676]

“Yes” “Yes Yes, I know”